ouranhshc wrote:

00:37:820 (5) - possibly orient this the same way 00:36:620 (1,3) - because this combo is based on a pattern. I feel that (5)'s placement should continue pattern I do, but in kinda other way :p

so something like this
00:49:820 (5) - same thing as above. Although, with this one it would kinda mess up what comes after it. I think it`s fine like this now.
01:11:420 (4,5,1) - ehh, patterns like these can be misleading in a way because it looks different from the actual rhythm. There are similar patterns throughout the map. So something like this Yes!

you'd have to change the slider path though.
02:27:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ehh, i feel like this should be 1/3 snapped. Currently it feels odd because it seems like you are following the drums but the triples don't feel quite right. the 1/3 snapped section would end here: 02:28:520 I don`t really know about these, i can`t here 1/3 and i followed vocals, in sliders part.
02:30:620 (4,5,1) - here is another example that is similar to above I`ll keep it, probably
02:52:220 (7) - feels a little too far away when compared to the other patterns in the previous parts of this slow section. so you could move it to X: 298 Y: 31 .Here is a before and after for an easier comparison. Yes!

Before

After

03:24:770 (5) - ehh, have you considered having the slider going in the opposite direction. All the sliders in this combo lead or take you in the direction of the next slider/circle of the combo. So if you were to reverse the direction of (5) so that it leads you to (1) of the next combo, i think that it would play better. Yes, changed
03:29:420 (4) - [nazi] one grid down on grid 4. [YOU DON"T HAVE TO CHANGE THIS ONE BUT I CHANGED HAHA!] It's just one of those things i notice while i'm playing but isn't that important.
04:03:320 (1,2,3,4) - Ehh, I'm try to explain this well D:. So when comparing this combo with how the other combos are setup for this portion of the song 03:59:720 to 04:09:320 , I noticed this trend: Long combo, short combo, short combo. I was just curious because 04:03:320 (1,2,3,4) - would have been the two short combos, and in the later combo setups, it returns to the long combo followed by two short combos. i.e. I have changed the thing xD

vs

Just remember that its up to you .

04:09:320 - 04:14:120 - could change some of the 1/3 to repeating sliders. This may help the player adjust to the snapping change. I want to keep circles
05:34:220 (1,2) - Not too keen about the placement of (2). Although its visible, 05:33:320 (1) - 's slider path still being visible on top of it doesn't help. I moved it a bit
06:23:653 (6) - ehh, tbh, i'd end this on the 1/4th blue tick. Kinda sounds odd in its current state. I think i know why you did this but, i don't hear the drum there. I`ll keep this too

Overall - Great and Fun map Thank you!
06:21:320 to the end of the map doesn't feel as structured/good as the rest of the map. I'm not sure if it has to do with the slow slider velocity, but thats just my thoughts on it. Remember that these are just suggestions and so don't feel forced to accept these suggestions

1. 00:31:670 (4,1) – kind of a weird flow here because of the shape of (1); the (1) feels awkward to play because the movement from (4) to (1) is like a diagonal movement and then the (1) has more horizontal movement and that ruins the diagonal movement and makes it feels weird. Maybe rotate by 60 degrees counter-clockwise from selection centre?
   
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   you might have to move 00:32:720 (3) – to stack with the slider end though
   
2. 00:47:120 (5) – did you forget a NC here?
3. 01:10:070 (4,5) – same as the first point about weird flow; you can figure this one out
4. 01:20:720 (1) – mmm this NC feels unnecessary to me because this part is very similar to 01:15:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) – and you didn’t have NC there
5. 01:24:620 (2,3) – blanket could be better; curve the (3) a little more by moving the middle anchor point to the bottom right a bit
6. 01:36:320 (3,4) – blanket here could also be a bit nicer
7. 01:43:820 (5,1) - ^same; I’ll stop pointing these out but you might want to recheck some of your blankets just to make sure they’re all nice and proper, e.g. 03:31:370 (3,4) – what is this blanket
8. 02:28:220 (8) – forgot clap on slider head?
9. 04:10:520 (6) -, 04:11:720 (6) -, and 04:12:920 (6) – I think it’d make sense to start a NC on these notes because the start of the guitar riff has a slight emphasis to it because downbeat
10. 04:18:920 (1,3) – just aesthetics talking here, but I think making them either both with a soft curve or sharp bend would look nicer; do one, not both
11. 05:01:220 (1) – NC seems unnecessary here
12. 05:08:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – this rhythm feels a bit weird to play imo; why not try a pattern like this?
    
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    just an idea here; you don’t need to go with this exact pattern, but try to keep the rhythms something like this because the long sliders on blue ticks feel really awkward to play imo
    
13. 05:24:920 (4,1) – tbh I think NCs should be swapped here because downbeat is the start of a new phrase in the guitar solo
14. 05:26:570 (3) – no NC here like 05:24:170 (1) - ?
15. for the last chorus, why not try something like stopping kiai time at 06:11:645 – and then starting kiai time again at 06:11:720 - ? there’s a change in key signature (vocalist raises his voice and switches keys here) so I think it’d be neat
16. 06:23:653 (6) -, 06:23:653 (6) – tbh these feel a little weird to me as ending on the purple (1/6) ticks; I think it’d be more appropriate to end these on the blue (1/4) ticks instead
    
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17. 06:30:486 (1,2,1,1,2) – NC structure here is a little weird I think because the NCs aren’t really highlighting anything with emphasis; tbh I don’t really think the NCs here are necessary
18. 06:33:986 (6,7) – 1/6 here also feels really weird; I think it’d be more fitting to just combine these into a 1/2 slider instead of separating it like this

Doormat wrote:

hi hi from forum pm, sorry this is kind of late- aaaaa i love DragonForce guitar solos HI!
[Freedom]

1. 00:31:670 (4,1) – kind of a weird flow here because of the shape of (1); the (1) feels awkward to play because the movement from (4) to (1) is like a diagonal movement and then the (1) has more horizontal movement and that ruins the diagonal movement and makes it feels weird. Maybe rotate by 60 degrees counter-clockwise from selection centre? I have changed whole thing
   
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   you might have to move 00:32:720 (3) – to stack with the slider end though
   
2. 00:47:120 (5) – did you forget a NC here? Yes.
3. 01:10:070 (4,5) – same as the first point about weird flow; you can figure this one out I think this one is fine.
4. 01:20:720 (1) – mmm this NC feels unnecessary to me because this part is very similar to 01:15:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) – and you didn’t have NC there I`ll keep it.
5. 01:24:620 (2,3) – blanket could be better; curve the (3) a little more by moving the middle anchor point to the bottom right a bit Okay thanks
6. 01:36:320 (3,4) – blanket here could also be a bit nicer Yes
7. 01:43:820 (5,1) - ^same; I’ll stop pointing these out but you might want to recheck some of your blankets just to make sure they’re all nice and proper, e.g. 03:31:370 (3,4) – what is this blanket Haha yeah.
8. 02:28:220 (8) – forgot clap on slider head? Oops
9. 04:10:520 (6) -, 04:11:720 (6) -, and 04:12:920 (6) – I think it’d make sense to start a NC on these notes because the start of the guitar riff has a slight emphasis to it because downbeat I want keep it
10. 04:18:920 (1,3) – just aesthetics talking here, but I think making them either both with a soft curve or sharp bend would look nicer; do one, not both Okay
11. 05:01:220 (1) – NC seems unnecessary here Yes
12. 05:08:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – this rhythm feels a bit weird to play imo; why not try a pattern like this? Changed a bit different
    
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    just an idea here; you don’t need to go with this exact pattern, but try to keep the rhythms something like this because the long sliders on blue ticks feel really awkward to play imo
    
13. 05:24:920 (4,1) – tbh I think NCs should be swapped here because downbeat is the start of a new phrase in the guitar solo Not this one :p
14. 05:26:570 (3) – no NC here like 05:24:170 (1) - ? no :p
15. for the last chorus, why not try something like stopping kiai time at 06:11:645 – and then starting kiai time again at 06:11:720 - ? there’s a change in key signature (vocalist raises his voice and switches keys here) so I think it’d be neat Nice!
16. 06:23:653 (6) -, 06:23:653 (6) – tbh these feel a little weird to me as ending on the purple (1/6) ticks; I think it’d be more appropriate to end these on the blue (1/4) ticks instead I`ll keep them.
    
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17. 06:30:486 (1,2,1,1,2) – NC structure here is a little weird I think because the NCs aren’t really highlighting anything with emphasis; tbh I don’t really think the NCs here are necessary This NC stays with me xD
18. 06:33:986 (6,7) – 1/6 here also feels really weird; I think it’d be more fitting to just combine these into a 1/2 slider instead of separating it like this Changed that one

Hope this helps!

Monstrata wrote:

Recheck: Hello <3

soft-sliderslide.wav is unused. Please double check if you wanted to use it or not. If not, remove it.
normal-slidertick.wav has a rather long delay before the actual sound begins. Do you think you can find a better .wav file, or trim off the beginning of the .wav file to avoid the delay? Removed delay and added soft custom sounds.

03:48:920 (5,6) - Blankets Yes
04:03:320 (1,2,3,4) - Try an arrangement like this: larger spacing onto 1 for emphasis, and you get a movement that closely mirrors your next pattern

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I really want to keep it :p
04:22:370 (5,7,8) - Can you try and avoid this kind of overlap? Alright
04:27:770 (2,3) - 2>3 should have a larger jump to emphasize the snare, while 3>4 shouldn't be as large in terms of spacing. Can you maybe rework this pattern to account for those notes? Yes
04:40:520 (1,2) - Try and avoid these kinds of placements because they just look kinda bad imo. try and position the circle to come after the slider like what you do with 04:41:120 (4,5) - . and 04:42:470 (4,5) - I kinda like these, can`t i keep it?
05:04:520 - This section with all these long sliders just feels really undermapped to me xP. Can you make the rhythm more diverse? You are missing a lot of instruments in the background by exclusively following the guitar. I really want to leave solo guitar for guitar xd
05:09:320 (1) - Ctrl+G this at least xP. So the flow follows the previous slider's direction. I have changed that stuff a bit
05:44:120 (1,1,2) - These rhythms feel really weird to me... the guitar is held, yet you put in a break. I think using sliders is more appropriate. I call it, epic pause XD

Try this

Okay that should be all

Use higher HP! 4 seems really, really low. What about 5,5 or even 6? We don't want free passes here

1. 02:00:620 (6,2) - Yup. Hiding slidertails is unrankable.
2. 02:06:920 (1) - 02:11:720 (1) - 02:13:520 (3) - No finish hitsound?
3. 03:04:895 (2,3) - If I remember correctly, you are overlapping every 1/4 pattern, especially when there's a circle between sliders. Then why? Same goes for 05:15:845 (2,3) - of course.
4. 03:33:320 (1) - Clap on tail sounds very weird here. Actually, clap on tails should be avoided, they have a different usage, and that's whenever you are using them for rhythm For example, following your hitsounding, 03:38:420 - 's tail should have a clap.
5. 04:48:020 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Would love to see this more separated, more polished, you know. Having everything so close seems... odd. What about http://puu.sh/oMY4Z/bd4167f5f6.jpg instead?
6. 06:37:986 - Making this clickable isn't an option, right? Dunno, I think it would be cool. Same for 06:48:653 - .
7. 06:39:986 (1) - Why is this snapped to 1/6 but 06:40:320 (2,3,4,5,6) - to 1/8? Wouldn't make actual sense to have everything on 1/8 rather?
8. 06:50:653 (1) - Unsnapped, move to 06:51:153 - . And also 06:51:208 (2) - to 06:51:236 - .

Yuii- wrote:

H-Hello Hello
Please, don't kill me. Why would i do that? :O I appreciate it, you are trying to help me make it even much better \o/ Thanks!

normal-slidertick.wav is inaudible on the right ear during gameplay. Changed that xd
Hey, Fort (just kidding, it's a joke, come on!!!!) Use higher HP! 4 seems really, really low. What about 5,5 or even 6? We don't want free passes here Do not touch my HP pls, it`s reserved for my only senpai. <3
P.S: I am qulte sure it`s not a problem, i do not want people hate my map because of 2 - 3 misses that have failed they passthrough. Most of DF maps used 3-5 HP, some of them 6, so why i can`t use 4 for now? Also i don`t think that we would have "free passes" cuz if someone can`t play these streams, he wound`t pass it even with HP0. That`s my point.

1. 02:00:620 (6,2) - Yup. Hiding slidertails is unrankable. It`s not really *hiding* you can clearly see it because of high AR and i don`t think it`s that huge problem at all. But if it`s really that, i can change it, not a big deal
2. 02:06:920 (1) - 02:11:720 (1) - 02:13:520 (3) - No finish hitsound? Added, ty.
3. 03:04:895 (2,3) - If I remember correctly, you are overlapping every 1/4 pattern, especially when there's a circle between sliders. Then why? Same goes for 05:15:845 (2,3) - of course. Kinda not, also it`s kiai. There was some slider-circle-slider 1/4 patterns with spacing and stacking. That fits enough imo.
4. 03:33:320 (1) - Clap on tail sounds very weird here. Actually, clap on tails should be avoided, they have a different usage, and that's whenever you are using them for rhythm For example, following your hitsounding, 03:38:420 - 's tail should have a clap. Thanks for note this, that`s a copypaste mistake!
5. 04:48:020 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Would love to see this more separated, more polished, you know. Having everything so close seems... odd. What about http://puu.sh/oMY4Z/bd4167f5f6.jpg instead? Yes, but i used something different to save spacing consintacy.
6. 06:37:986 - Making this clickable isn't an option, right? Dunno, I think it would be cool. Same for 06:48:653 - I made first one clickable and second one not, cuz i think random 1/12 stream would be too much lol.
7. 06:39:986 (1) - Why is this snapped to 1/6 but 06:40:320 (2,3,4,5,6) - to 1/8? Wouldn't make actual sense to have everything on 1/8 rather? Yes, kinda xd
8. 06:50:653 (1) - Unsnapped, move to 06:51:153 - . And also 06:51:208 (2) - to 06:51:236 - .They are snapped, to 1/6 but i snaped them to 1/8

Can I also suggest you to make the final a bit more flow-y by curving the sliders? All these straight movements are quite boring at some point!
In my opinion, you could include some other hitsounds on the map as well as working on them for a while. Things such as 03:01:520 (3) - are kinda... random let's say? Really like the usage of the normal hits, I think they sound awesome! It's just that you are missing soooo many important spots overall and/or adding hitsounds whenever they are not needed. As you wish, remaped whole section, hope it`s not that boring anymore xd

Everything in bold should be fixed and/or explained otherwise.

Stjpa wrote:

I kinda disagree with the overall spacing used in this map. The streams are kinda of intense spacing-wise (at least near the end) but the jumps are so lame that I'd fall asleep after the second time of playing this map. Especially in the kiai it's really boring, but that's just my opinion. Doesn't feel right compared to the streams, that's it.

Also, you should really consider a higher drain than just 4. This map just has one little streamy part that doesn't even have really long streams so HP4 isn't near acceptable at all, if you ask me. If there were good deathstreams or a streampart of the length of 1:30 or smth I'd completely agree, but that's not the case.

Kathex wrote:

You probably forgot your level to consider the map asleep... kek
I think chu wants make it at least passable to more ppl, dont just for pro players...

I loved the map Chu (specialy with hr cause i dont need be a cookiezi to at least pass it)
Dont let this ppls discourage you

Stjpa wrote:

I kinda disagree with the overall spacing used in this map. The streams are kinda of intense spacing-wise (at least near the end) but the jumps are so lame that I'd fall asleep after the second time of playing this map. Especially in the kiai it's really boring, but that's just my opinion. Doesn't feel right compared to the streams, that's it.

Also, you should really consider a higher drain than just 4. This map just has one little streamy part that doesn't even have really long streams so HP4 isn't near acceptable at all, if you ask me. If there were good deathstreams or a streampart of the length of 1:30 or smth I'd completely agree, but that's not the case.

ImBuGs wrote:

Why is this in a no bubble status?

Sonnyc wrote:

Hi. I'm terribly sorry for the long delay. Hey, thanks. No wories xd

Several rhythm selections seem to be based on arbitrary feeling instead of the actual song. For example, there is an actual beat at 00:28:895 while the selected rhythm was at 00:29:195 (4). Another example would be at 01:56:120 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8), where 01:56:495 - 01:57:095 - got an actual beat in the music while 01:56:195 - 01:56:795 being selected instead. There are much more cases like these, and the rhythm needs improvement accordingly in a way to follow the music better. I am pretty sure it`s ok there.
01:27:320 (1,2,3) - 02:46:520 (1,2,3) - This kind of spacing usage isn't good in reading the rhythms properly. Giving more difference between 1/2 and 1/3 rhythm will be better. I changed it a bit.
02:09:320 (4) - NC will be better to distinct pattern. Yes, thanks
02:32:120 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Nice approach. TY! :3
01:34:520 (5) - 02:53:720 (1) - Inconsistent combo. Fixed.
04:33:170 (6) - While (1,2,3,4,5) follows both the drums and the melody in the music, (6) has got no drum while containing only the melody. However your pattern selection represented no difference regarding that aspect, and it didn't seemed to fit the music nicely. Fixed.
04:51:320 (1,2) - If you are following the melody line, the snap should be 1/3. This rhythm is pretty wierd here, but 1/4 fits more here, i guess.
05:00:770 (7,8,1) - Imo keeping the distance would look better, but this is fine too. Yes, i wanna keep it like this.
05:05:720 (1,2,3,4,1) - 05:10:520 (1,2,3) - etc - These spacing usage for extended sliders felt too much.. The song wasn't that abnormal to demand such irregular patterns imo. I changed the whole section here.
05:15:020 - Consider using 1/3 to fit the instrument? Oh my, nice catch!
06:46:153 (3,4) - 06:59:820 (3,4) - I don't see much a reason behind this random jump. Alright, fixed :p

Patterns itself worked quite fine, considering a work from a new mapper. It definitely lacked professionality, but that's understandable. Just the rhythm selections had problems for me to push this mapset further.

Monstrata wrote:

06:47:978 (1) - I think this should end 1/8 earlier, on 06:48:312 - . I can actually hear a note on 06:48:312 - , but not the 1/8 after.
Fixed :3
Double-checked other snappings, just this one stood out.

Side wrote:

Bubble #3! .................................................................................................................................................................

Wishkey wrote:

oh nice man you revived this
might wanna check if the normal-slidertick.wav 8ms delay is okay to rank, would suck if it'd get dq'd by that
glgl!

CircleChu wrote:

I guess, you got the really old version, because i fixed it a while ago