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Lasse

Setz wrote:

quick mod for 1 of your diffs as requested.

[Insane]
  1. 00:34:486 (2,3) - try to ctrl +g these, it emphasis the music better, you may need to move 00:35:025 (5) - if you do this though since this could create some nasty flow. something like this did sth here
  2. 00:46:702 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - this whole thing looks really sloppy, reconsider re working the entire pattern ,and possibly even the rhythm. rhythm seems fine, redid the pattern more cleanly
  3. 01:01:432 (1,2,3,4) - - this is not snapped correctly, well this whole part actually sounds like a snapping nightmare, so good luck with that, I ham actually not good with this, but I can tell something here is very wrong. Have to agree that esp. 01:01:522 (2) - sound a bit off, but 1/4 is pretty much the most playble here while still somehow fitting and the other version got through with this snapped to 1/4, lol
  4. 01:12:929 (1,2) - hmmmm i definitely dont hear anything on the blue ticks here. actually you try to cover up alot of overmapping with hitsounds throughout the whole map seems fine, epsecially on the second blue the drum and other sound are audible enough. also what part sounded overmapped? lol
uhh yeah that's all I have, sorry for the short mod, good luck with the map!
thanks
moonlightleaf
[Easy]

01:16:881 (2) - centre rotate 20°?

[Normal]

00:36:283 (5,1) - overlap

00:43:828 (3,4,5) - try

00:51:372 (7) - i prefer (244,132)

[Hard]

00:16:522 (3,4) - try each ctrl+g once

00:45:265 (4) - ctrl+g

01:19:217 (2) - i prefer (280,80)

[Insane]

00:16:522 (3) - ctrl+g

00:23:079 (1,1) - too close

00:56:043 (1,2,3) - stack

[Expert]

00:05:744 (1,2) - stack them

00:37:001 (6,7) - ctrl+g

00:41:313 (5,6,1,2,3) - i prefer pentagon

00:53:528 (3) - ctrl+g ,like as 01:14:367 (5,6,1) -
Topic Starter
Lasse

moonlightleaf wrote:

[Easy]

01:16:881 (2) - centre rotate 20°? sure

[Normal]

00:36:283 (5,1) - overlap fixed

00:43:828 (3,4,5) - try
overlaps the sliders too much imo and current one has a nice and more interesting movement

00:51:372 (7) - i prefer (244,132) ruins 00:50:115 (4,5,6,7) - pattern

[Hard]

00:16:522 (3,4) - try each ctrl+g once really like how it plays

00:45:265 (4) - ctrl+g plays fine and I don't want to abuse slider leniency too much on hard

01:19:217 (2) - i prefer (280,80) like the current one more, has a really nice movement

[Insane]

00:16:522 (3) - ctrl+g bad spacing or ruins symmetry, current is fine

00:23:079 (1,1) - too close I think it is fine for Insane and goes better with the music. the next note is close to the center and a slider so it plays fine. if more complain I could shorten the spinner though :/

00:56:043 (1,2,3) - stack wtf happened here? fixed

[Expert]

00:05:744 (1,2) - stack them slight change

00:37:001 (6,7) - ctrl+g nah, current fits better, but I fixed the spacing

00:41:313 (5,6,1,2,3) - i prefer pentagon I don't, lol. also ruins overlap pattern

00:53:528 (3) - ctrl+g ,like as 01:14:367 (5,6,1) - sure
thanks for the help, I'll mod your map after I'm home from university again in some hours
[ -Scarlet- ]
Hello there Lasse :D

[Extra]

  • General
  1. I'm not sure why don't get why you use a high SV of 2.08 when you never even adjust the SV multiplier over x1.0 . There's no need to have an SV as low as x0.25 when you can just the general Slider Velocity to 1.50 instead. But, is not big of an issue though.

    Some mods
  2. Maybe start the song with a spiner start from here 00:00:355 then ends at 00:02:690?
  3. 00:05:744 (1) - The slider tail is not properly stack with the head of 00:05:025 (5) slider. Adjust the tail right in the middle of the 00:05:025 (5) slider head would be nice
  4. 00:06:283 (2) - I really don't like the idea of stacking this slider with 00:05:744 (1) slider at all. Making symmetrical like this plays well enough
  5. 00:12:570 (5) - Since the song at 00:11:492 and 00:12:031 is similar to this, why not just use 1/4 slider like you did at 00:11:492 (1,3) ?
  6. 00:14:367 (1) - Use a DS of x0.1 to keep the spacing constant with 00:13:648 (2,3)
  7. 00:17:780 (2) - Guess this isn't blanketed well with the slider tail of 00:17:241 (1)
  8. Hitsound suggestion here. Add clap at 00:17:780 (2,3) , 00:19:396 (2) , 00:22:271 (5) , and 00:21:193 (3) would sound pretty nice here
  9. 00:22:271 (5,1) - Swap NC. NC at 00:22:271 (5) indicates the start of change in rhythm here
  10. 00:23:349 - Move the 2nd node of this slider a bit upward to make it somewhat similar to 00:25:504
  11. 00:22:989 (2) - I think ending the slider at 00:25:684 sounds nicer and would be more appropriate
  12. 00:29:277 (2) - Ugly slider, don't like how you stacks the slider at the head of 00:28:738 (1) at all. Looks terrible in the gameplay
  13. 00:29:995 - An obvious vocal here. Move the 00:29:816 (3) here sounds a lot nice :D
  14. 00:36:822 (5,6,7) - The jumps here should a larger than 00:36:283 (2,3,4) due to the loud vocal here
  15. 00:27:121 (1) - Wrong additional sampleset. Change it to Normal
  16. 00:37:361 (1,4) - These sliders aren't blanket very well
  17. 00:47:420 (1,2,3,4) - Small suggestion here, maybe make the SV gradually becomes smaller and smaller? Like from x0.5 > x0.45 > x0.4 > x0.35 or something similar
  18. 00:51:732 (1) - I don't think there's any significance with this circle that it needs a larger spacing than 00:51:552 (5,6)
  19. 00:54:606 (1) - If you want to keep this kind of pattern, sure. Make sure the spacing is similar to 00:56:043 (1) as well
  20. 00:59:636 (1,2,1,2) - Doesn't sound good at all spamming claps here. Just 00:59:636 (1) and 00:59:995 (1) sounds good enough
  21. 01:02:869 (5,6,7,8) - I don't get this 1/4 at all. This doesn't follows anything, felt really forced here
  22. 01:08:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try not to spam all these circles with claps here. Sounds really noisy for me. Just at claps at 01:09:157 (2,4,6,8) following the vocal sounds really great here
  23. 01:03:229 (1,2,3) - Actually I would prefer if you map this part similar to 01:14:726 (1,2,3,4,5,6)
  24. 01:28:917 (1) - This jump is really ridiculous and forced if you ask me. There's nothing really special in the song or louder beat that you need to have an extremely big jump here
  25. 01:39:157 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These stream here is weirdly mapped. Try to improve the pattern here
  26. 01:43:468 (1) - The fast pace from 01:42:121 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) followed by big jump to 01:43:468 (1) plays awkwardly here. The players automatically think this slider would be fast because of the 1/4 slider jumps. I misread this part in my first testplay because I aimed at the 01:43:738 (2) too fast thinking that 01:43:468 (1) slider would be fast too.

I'll continue to mod other difficulties a bit later. Got some things to do first beforehand. Stay tune! :D
Topic Starter
Lasse

[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:

Hello there Lasse :D

[Extra]

  • General
  1. I'm not sure why don't get why you use a high SV of 2.08 when you never even adjust the SV multiplier over x1.0 . There's no need to have an SV as low as x0.25 when you can just the general Slider Velocity to 1.50 instead. But, is not big of an issue though. I doesn't make a difference for gameplay or anything anyways, just different ways to achieve the same thing

    Some mods
  2. Maybe start the song with a spiner start from here 00:00:355 then ends at 00:02:690?DOn't feel that this is needed for that sound
  3. 00:05:744 (1) - The slider tail is not properly stack with the head of 00:05:025 (5) slider. Adjust the tail right in the middle of the 00:05:025 (5) slider head would be nice this is such a pain, remade it
  4. 00:06:283 (2) - I really don't like the idea of stacking this slider with 00:05:744 (1) slider at all. Making symmetrical like this plays well enough b-but I like it :'(
  5. 00:12:570 (5) - Since the song at 00:11:492 and 00:12:031 is similar to this, why not just use 1/4 slider like you did at 00:11:492 (1,3) ? there is way better on audible piano on 00:12:750 than on the others, so I the single repeat here is to focus on that, while the otehrs are more focused on background since there is no piano on the repeats
  6. 00:14:367 (1) - Use a DS of x0.1 to keep the spacing constant with 00:13:648 (2,3) fixed
  7. 00:17:780 (2) - Guess this isn't blanketed well with the slider tail of 00:17:241 (1) fixed
  8. Hitsound suggestion here. Add clap at 00:17:780 (2,3) , 00:19:396 (2) , 00:22:271 (5) , and 00:21:193 (3) would sound pretty nice here added some more claps in this part for all diffs
  9. 00:22:271 (5,1) - Swap NC. NC at 00:22:271 (5) indicates the start of change in rhythm here makes sense
  10. 00:23:349 - Move the 2nd node of this slider a bit upward to make it somewhat similar to 00:25:504 changed a bit
  11. 00:22:989 (2) - I think ending the slider at 00:25:684 sounds nicer and would be more appropriate sound is still held on the blue tick, so I preder to keep it
  12. 00:29:277 (2) - Ugly slider, don't like how you stacks the slider at the head of 00:28:738 (1) at all. Looks terrible in the gameplay fixed the stack and I think it looks fine during gameplay tbh
  13. 00:29:995 - An obvious vocal here. Move the 00:29:816 (3) here sounds a lot nice :D actually I just added a note on 00:29:995 (4) - and kept 3, goes fine with vocals and all
  14. 00:36:822 (5,6,7) - The jumps here should a larger than 00:36:283 (2,3,4) due to the loud vocal here right, respaced a bit
  15. 00:27:121 (1) - Wrong additional sampleset. Change it to Normal no, this pattern 00:26:582 (1,1,1,1) - is supposed to be n-s-n-s which it is
  16. 00:37:361 (1,4) - These sliders aren't blanket very well fixed
  17. 00:47:420 (1,2,3,4) - Small suggestion here, maybe make the SV gradually becomes smaller and smaller? Like from x0.5 > x0.45 > x0.4 > x0.35 or something similar that is too much sv change spam for my taste here, one change on the nc is fine enough
  18. 00:51:732 (1) - I don't think there's any significance with this circle that it needs a larger spacing than 00:51:552 (5,6)
  19. 00:54:606 (1) - If you want to keep this kind of pattern, sure. Make sure the spacing is similar to 00:56:043 (1) as well
    I fixed it for the second one,i t was a bit too low. I think those are fine since the third tick is way stronger, louder and sounds different
  20. 00:59:636 (1,2,1,2) - Doesn't sound good at all spamming claps here. Just 00:59:636 (1) and 00:59:995 (1) sounds good enough seems fine with the music for me
  21. 01:02:869 (5,6,7,8) - I don't get this 1/4 at all. This doesn't follows anything, felt really forced here huh? Delete the notes and you can clearly hear the 1/4, even at 100% playback rate
  22. 01:08:977 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try not to spam all these circles with claps here. Sounds really noisy for me. Just at claps at 01:09:157 (2,4,6,8) following the vocal sounds really great here I removed some and did some other hitosund stuff here for all diffs
  23. 01:03:229 (1,2,3) - Actually I would prefer if you map this part similar to 01:14:726 (1,2,3,4,5,6) vocals on both "progress" differently, seems better like it is
  24. 01:28:917 (1) - This jump is really ridiculous and forced if you ask me. There's nothing really special in the song or louder beat that you need to have an extremely big jump here nerfed it again
  25. 01:39:157 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These stream here is weirdly mapped. Try to improve the pattern hereremapped those a bit
  26. 01:43:468 (1) - The fast pace from 01:42:121 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) followed by big jump to 01:43:468 (1) plays awkwardly here. The players automatically think this slider would be fast because of the 1/4 slider jumps. I misread this part in my first testplay because I aimed at the 01:43:738 (2) too fast thinking that 01:43:468 (1) slider would be fast too. did some sv stuff here

I'll continue to mod other difficulties a bit later. Got some things to do first beforehand. Stay tune! :D
thanks for the mod so far :v
Rapthorn
Trashy mod queue les go 3 weeks late or smth idk

Suggestion
Very highly suggested
Unrankable

player view
It looks much much clunkier while playing than it does in editor, keep in mind that what makes sense in editor might just look like randomly placed notes while playing

Jumps feel nice to hit, no big issue in that sense.

General
I feel like you are trying way too hard to make every burst/every slider special, I'd highly reccommend only making 00:28:738 (1,2) - stuff like this when it clearly makes sense in the song. It just doesnt look good nor polished at all.
00:51:552 (5,6,1) - example, this looks like you placed shit randomly, even in the editor. There are ways to make a map special while still keeping it clean. This is in my opinion the biggest issue with the map currently.

NC issue. Im not going to point these out in the mod because they're literally everywhere. You NC at strong downbeats (big white lines) without ANY regard of whether or not it actually fits the song/your map/patterns. If a player sees a new combo they expect the rhythm/spacing to change. Keep that in mind
Id honestly reccommend taking a look at all your diffs and changing it, because its a pretty glaring issue.
like this for example 00:31:073 (5) - why the hell is this continuing from the last one if there's a new pattern and a break?

General tidyness. mostly in jumps. 00:57:480 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - if you highlight this section and scroll to the star you can see that you stack the notes that makes sense. Sometimes. This makes it look ugly. If you are going to try and make it look good in the editor you have to go all the way, halfassed just looks random.
This is pretty much everywhere in your map, giving the impression that you just stacked notes when available instead of making an actual effort for it to look good.
These three things all really need to be worked on imo

I'm not the best hitsounder but the intros hitsounding felt pretty off while playing
oorgnoc ysp le

00:08:618 (1) - any reason for making this a repeatslider? The music only supports 1/2 rhythm here
00:10:414 (1) - same
00:11:492 (1,3) - yeah
00:48:678 (4) - I feel like this should be a long slider instead, fits better with vocals
00:49:576 (4) - why isnt the middle part here clickable, clearly a strong beat
00:54:426 (7,8,1) - 00:55:864 (8,9,1) - i highly dislike these triples, they look unpolished more than anything else, even if i see where you are coming from. A lot of them in the map
01:01:432 (1,2,3,4) - is there a reason for these to look like this? the down down pattern dont make any sense in the music and a normally spaced quint would look better. This looks like you are trying too hard to make something unique
01:06:283 (2) - NC issue i talked about. It clearly fits the song better to NC at the 2 instead of the 1 here as its a new part of the song, and the 1 is part of the jump pattern earlier. Dont just NC at downbeats, NC where it fits the song.
01:31:971 (1) - ok fo real though why isnt this a slider when you mapped the two sounds before as a slider. Extremely confusing and doesnt fit at all. Yes its not as loud but its still the most audiable part of the song at that point.
01:37:720 (1) - same

01:39:157 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1) - you CANNOT follow the sound you are currenly following here, as it slows down at first and then speeds up. As it is now its simply timed incorrectly and thus unrankable.
I also personally feel like the jumpstreams are extremely forced, but since this part needs to be changed anyways it doesnt matter.
Topic Starter
Lasse

Rapthorn wrote:

Trashy mod queue les go 3 weeks late or smth idk

Suggestion
Very highly suggested
Unrankable

player view
It looks much much clunkier while playing than it does in editor, keep in mind that what makes sense in editor might just look like randomly placed notes while playing

Jumps feel nice to hit, no big issue in that sense.

General
I feel like you are trying way too hard to make every burst/every slider special, I'd highly reccommend only making 00:28:738 (1,2) - stuff like this when it clearly makes sense in the song. It just doesnt look good nor polished at all.
00:51:552 (5,6,1) - example, this looks like you placed shit randomly, even in the editor. There are ways to make a map special while still keeping it clean. This is in my opinion the biggest issue with the map currently."randomly", whatever since people keep complaining I'll change those

NC issue. Im not going to point these out in the mod because they're literally everywhere. You NC at strong downbeats (big white lines) without ANY regard of whether or not it actually fits the song/your map/patterns. If a player sees a new combo they expect the rhythm/spacing to change. Keep that in mind
Id honestly reccommend taking a look at all your diffs and changing it, because its a pretty glaring issue.
like this for example 00:31:073 (5) - why the hell is this continuing from the last one if there's a new pattern and a break?
eh, I nc based on patterns when it is needed for readability, otherwise on new measures, it nc follows mainly the drums i

General tidyness. mostly in jumps. 00:57:480 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - if you highlight this section and scroll to the star you can see that you stack the notes that makes sense. Sometimes. This makes it look ugly. If you are going to try and make it look good in the editor you have to go all the way, halfassed just looks random.
This is pretty much everywhere in your map, giving the impression that you just stacked notes when available instead of making an actual effort for it to look good.
If you tried to actually look which of those overlaps are visible during gameplay and which not it might make more sense to you
These three things all really need to be worked on imo

I'm not the best hitsounder but the intros hitsounding felt pretty off while playing
oorgnoc ysp le

00:08:618 (1) - any reason for making this a repeatslider? The music only supports 1/2 rhythm here
00:10:414 (1) - same
00:11:492 (1,3) - yeah
already explained this in another mod, if you can't hear the background stuff it fits to then idk
00:48:678 (4) - I feel like this should be a long slider instead, fits better with vocals and totally ignore the really strong next beat?
00:49:576 (4) - why isnt the middle part here clickable, clearly a strong beat
really? this clickable but not 00:48:858 (1) - ? doesnt make any sense to me
00:54:426 (7,8,1) - 00:55:864 (8,9,1) - i highly dislike these triples, they look unpolished more than anything else, even if i see where you are coming from. A lot of them in the map I made some of them "normal" and slightly changed the others for now
01:01:432 (1,2,3,4) - is there a reason for these to look like this? the down down pattern dont make any sense in the music and a normally spaced quint would look better. This looks like you are trying too hard to make something unique follows the stronger high pitched sounds on 1/3 better
01:06:283 (2) - NC issue i talked about. It clearly fits the song better to NC at the 2 instead of the 1 here as its a new part of the song, and the 1 is part of the jump pattern earlier. Dont just NC at downbeats, NC where it fits the song. see reasoning before, nc on the strongest drum beats is fine and that is clearly 01:06:103 (1) -
01:31:971 (1) - ok fo real though why isnt this a slider when you mapped the two sounds before as a slider. Extremely confusing and doesnt fit at all. Yes its not as loud but its still the most audiable part of the song at that point.
01:37:720 (1) - same

you basically answered it yourself, it gets way harder to hear so switching focus to the other stuffs fits nicer after those
01:39:157 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1) - you CANNOT follow the sound you are currenly following here, as it slows down at first and then speeds up. As it is now its simply timed incorrectly and thus unrankable. not rly sure tbh
I also personally feel like the jumpstreams are extremely forced, but since this part needs to be changed anyways it doesnt matter.[s[/color]
thanks
MouseCheeseW
M4M~

Normal
01:04:486 (4) - remove. place a note here.

01:04:666 - place a slider, end at 01:05:025 .
Hard
01:15:983 (1) - slider end at 01:16:163 . place a note at 01:16:343

01:39:157 (1,2,3,4) - i think slider should reduce 1/4 beat.(end at red line)

01:43:468 (1,2,3,4) - ↑
Insane
00:26:582 (1,2,3,4) - 4 nots's distance should as same as each other. (2 ~ 3 different from others)

00:32:331 (3,4,5,6) - ↑(3 ~ 4)

01:31:253 (4,5,6) - ↑

01:33:408 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ↑

01:36:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ↑

01:38:438 (5,6) - ↑
Extra
00:22:989 (3) - remove. place a spinner, end at 00:25:684.

00:29:995 (4) - place this away from the previous circle.

00:30:714 (4) - closer to previous circle.

00:31:073 (5,6,7) - 3 nots's distance should as same as each other

00:34:486 (1,2,3,4) - ↑

00:37:001 (6) - closer to previous circle.

00:41:313 (5) - ↑

00:41:672 (1,2,3,4) - distance should as same as each other

01:43:738 (1) - 01:44:097 (1) - 01:44:456 (1) - remove.


i think, in one color, distance should as same as each other.(except kiai time & some part the music is special)

and, my english isn't well, hope you can understand.
Topic Starter
Lasse

MouseCheeseW wrote:

M4M~

Normal
01:04:486 (4) - remove. place a note here.

01:04:666 - place a slider, end at 01:05:025 . good idea
Hard
01:15:983 (1) - slider end at 01:16:163 . place a note at 01:16:343 this follows vocals better

01:39:157 (1,2,3,4) - i think slider should reduce 1/4 beat.(end at red line)

01:43:468 (1,2,3,4) - ↑ current ones are fine
Insane
00:26:582 (1,2,3,4) - 4 nots's distance should as same as each other. (2 ~ 3 different from others)

00:32:331 (3,4,5,6) - ↑(3 ~ 4)

01:31:253 (4,5,6) - ↑

01:33:408 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ↑

01:36:283 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ↑

01:38:438 (5,6) - ↑
Extra
00:22:989 (3) - remove. place a spinner, end at 00:25:684. sldier is fine too

00:29:995 (4) - place this away from the previous circle.

00:30:714 (4) - closer to previous circle.

00:31:073 (5,6,7) - 3 nots's distance should as same as each other

00:34:486 (1,2,3,4) - ↑

00:37:001 (6) - closer to previous circle.

00:41:313 (5) - ↑

00:41:672 (1,2,3,4) - distance should as same as each other

01:43:738 (1) - 01:44:097 (1) - 01:44:456 (1) - remove. huh? they are fine with the music and play well
no spacing changes (see below)

i think, in one color, distance should as same as each other.(except kiai time & some part the music is special)
uh, that's not how spacing/emphasis works lol, basically the reasoning why I denied all spacing suggestions in this mod

and, my english isn't well, hope you can understand.
thanks
FCL
m4m from your q
  • [Extra]
  1. 00:26:402 (2) - the circle feels cramped, recommend to make more extensive blanket
  2. 00:38:618 (6,1) - a bit inconvenient the flow, suggest to ctrl+j 00:38:798 (1) - and move to 228 352
  3. 00:49:396 (3) - don't like such a low spacing here, since (3) have strong vocal beat. Stack him with (1) will good
  4. 00:59:636 (1,2,1,2) - claps here are more stronger than ever before, so why not to do spacing more?
  5. 01:01:073 (1,2) - given the fact that the piano (?) sound starts to fade you could be reduce slider velocity like 00:47:420 (1,2,3,4) -
  6. 01:01:432 (1,2,3,4) - don't understand why so? lol. claps are not changed sounding
  7. 01:03:229 (1,2,3,4,5) - when i listening the previous time i thought that rhythm will have roughly like this http://puu.sh/mFfYR/d1b2904829.jpg. Red ticks have strong vocal and probably could be mapped to circles. You not should to create full screen jumps here, think my option will be fine http://puu.sh/mFggq/25c4c99cf5.jpg. probably it's just obtrusion of my mapping style, but I really think that this model of mapping will better
  8. 01:11:852 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - claps are started at 01:12:613 - so i think that kick-slider like 01:00:714 (1,2,1,2) - will be better since continue stream when changed him causes a bit weird
  9. 01:27:660 (1,1,2,1,2,1) - too much unnecessary nc's lol. remove it on 01:27:660 (1) - and 01:28:917 (1) - because so it will more follow to vocal.
  10. 01:27:480- this beat have sound and should be clikable. U can replce (4) to slider, will be good
  11. 01:34:846 (1) - don't use 1/1 here, red tich should be clikable
  12. 01:40:504 (4) - rly hard for reading, recommend to rewok it to standart model
  13. 01:40:594 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - probably it's my preferences but if rotate this to +-5 degrees will look better
  14. 01:45:624 (1) - nc is not necessary since u don't use clap here
  15. 01:46:432 (1) - move end to white tick lol

  • [Insane]
  1. ar 8.4 and od 7.5 . Not bad for pp
  2. 00:02:870 (1) - just my preferences, but sliderwawes like this looks more neatly http://puu.sh/mFhku/ec26cee896.jpg
  3. 00:20:654 (2) - blanket here will be nice
  4. 01:18:678 (7) - probably a bit confusing, make it less closely
  5. 01:27:660 (1,2,3) - 90 degrees flow will be nice http://puu.sh/mFhDX/8918f1637e.jpg
  6. 01:35:025 - should be clickable, as and in Extra

  • [Hard]
  1. 00:39:337 (3) - blanket
  2. 01:00:714 (1,1,1) - nc's haven't reason for this
  3. 01:11:852 (1,1,1,1) - ^

  • [Normal]
  1. 00:44:367 (4) - 1/1 slider instead circle will be better for rhythm imo
  2. 01:28:558 (3,4,5) - probably 3 1/2 circles are unrankabled in Normal since i tryed to rank The Monk with same patterns, but BN's said me to remove it lol
  3. 01:45:624 (2,3,4) - ^

  • [Easy]
  1. idk, can't find something
Topic Starter
Lasse

FCL wrote:

m4m from your q
  • [Extra]
  1. 00:26:402 (2) - the circle feels cramped, recommend to make more extensive blanket ruins the pattern/spacing
  2. 00:38:618 (6,1) - a bit inconvenient the flow, suggest to ctrl+j 00:38:798 (1) - and move to 228 352 just simple back and forth, seems fine
  3. 00:49:396 (3) - don't like such a low spacing here, since (3) have strong vocal beat. Stack him with (1) will good vocals are not even main focus here and it looks worse :/
  4. 00:59:636 (1,2,1,2) - claps here are more stronger than ever before, so why not to do spacing more? It is already? 00:59:636 (1,1) - have bigger jumps, and even more would feel overdone
  5. 01:01:073 (1,2) - given the fact that the piano (?) sound starts to fade you could be reduce slider velocity like 00:47:420 (1,2,3,4) - that works
  6. 01:01:432 (1,2,3,4) - don't understand why so? lol. claps are not changed sounding seems fine with drums
  7. 01:03:229 (1,2,3,4,5) - when i listening the previous time i thought that rhythm will have roughly like this http://puu.sh/mFfYR/d1b2904829.jpg. Red ticks have strong vocal and probably could be mapped to circles. You not should to create full screen jumps here, think my option will be fine http://puu.sh/mFggq/25c4c99cf5.jpg. probably it's just obtrusion of my mapping style, but I really think that this model of mapping will better
    sliders are fine here, lol. not too much singletap spam
  8. 01:11:852 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - claps are started at 01:12:613 - so i think that kick-slider like 01:00:714 (1,2,1,2) - will be better since continue stream when changed him causes a bit weird spacing change does the job too and it fits so nice here
  9. 01:27:660 (1,1,2,1,2,1) - too much unnecessary nc's lol. remove it on 01:27:660 (1) - and 01:28:917 (1) - because so it will more follow to vocal. sure
  10. 01:27:480- this beat have sound and should be clikable. U can replce (4) to slider, will be good takes away emphasis from vocals
  11. 01:34:846 (1) - don't use 1/1 here, red tich should be clikable this has soem weird snapping, sure there is sth on the red tick, but making that clickable would feel so weird to play with all the other sounds with weird snapping
  12. 01:40:504 (4) - rly hard for reading, recommend to rewok it to standart model seemed fine for me and people that testplayed
  13. 01:40:594 (1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - probably it's my preferences but if rotate this to +-5 degrees will look better perfextly vertical/horizontal is nicer for the sliders imo
  14. 01:45:624 (1) - nc is not necessary since u don't use clap here fits the pattern better
  15. 01:46:432 (1) - move end to white tick lol song ends on blue though
thanks
not much time so I'll check the other diffs /mod back later


FCL wrote:

  • [Insane]
  1. ar 8.4 and od 7.5 . Not bad for pp
  2. 00:02:870 (1) - just my preferences, but sliderwawes like this looks more neatly http://puu.sh/mFhku/ec26cee896.jpg
  3. 00:20:654 (2) - blanket here will be nice huh, it is blanketed like I wantit already
  4. 01:18:678 (7) - probably a bit confusing, make it less closely would make the overlapping inconsistent and it plays fine
  5. 01:27:660 (1,2,3) - 90 degrees flow will be nice http://puu.sh/mFhDX/8918f1637e.jpg current is nicer imo
  6. 01:35:025 - should be clickable, as and in Extra same as extra

  • [Hard]
  1. 00:39:337 (3) - blanket not intended to
  2. 01:00:714 (1,1,1) - nc's haven't reason for this easier to read imo
  3. 01:11:852 (1,1,1,1) - ^

  • [Normal]
  1. 00:44:367 (4) - 1/1 slider instead circle will be better for rhythm imo 00:44:546 (5) - not clickable would be weird
  2. 01:28:558 (3,4,5) - probably 3 1/2 circles are unrankabled in Normal since i tryed to rank The Monk with same patterns, but BN's said me to remove it lol
  3. 01:45:624 (2,3,4) - ^I nerfed them a bit, even though they cold be fine

  • [Easy]
  1. idk, can't find something
Topic Starter
Lasse
k so I remapped the ending for all higher diffs with fixed snapping
time to get back to work on this
Lami
[Easy]

01:29:097 (2) - missing hitsound?

[Normal]

00:34:307 - recommend to remove rhythm.
For reason, don't you think 00:33:768 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - is too long train.
00:37:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^,
01:17:959 - is more important than 01:17:780 -
if 01:17:780 - is follow vocal, 01:16:881 (3) - should be follow vocal too.

[Hard]

01:16:163 - why don't you fill up in here. it's quite major rhythm for me.
01:20:474 - ^

[Insane]

00:55:864 (7,1,2,3) - are you sure about this rhythm

01:35:205 (2) - add clap on head instead of tail. according to music.

[Extra]

if you use same DS in 00:26:582 (1,1,1,1,1) -
you should be use same DS in 00:32:331 (1,1,1,1,1) - , too.

00:41:852 (2,3,4) - seem to unnatural flow for playing.

01:05:564 (4,6) - remove claps cuz seem to heavy hitsound, compare with music.
01:15:624 (6,8) - ^

01:06:283 (2,3) - add clap in tail instead of head

01:07:450 - add note?

01:20:384 - maybe add note or 01:20:205 -

01:44:905 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - if you use accelerator effect in previous partten 01:43:468 (1,1,1,1) -
not fit to growing smaller DS here.
how to do)
- 01:45:264 (1,2) - is bigger than 01:44:905 (1,2) -
- 01:45:624 (1,2) - is bigger than 01:45:264 (1,2) -
etc
Topic Starter
Lasse

Lami wrote:

[Easy]

01:29:097 (2) - missing hitsound? clap

[Normal]

00:34:307 - recommend to remove rhythm.
For reason, don't you think 00:33:768 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - is too long train.
00:37:361 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^,
Slightly reduced first one. second one seems fine as it is very 1/1 slider heavy and there is also an easy diff, so normal can be a bit harder
01:17:959 - is more important than 01:17:780 - following vocals and 01:17:780 - is pretty strong vocal
if 01:17:780 - is follow vocal, 01:16:881 (3) - should be follow vocal too.
right, changed rhythm a bit

[Hard]

01:16:163 - why don't you fill up in here. it's quite major rhythm for me.
01:20:474 - ^ donwbeats aren't that strong here, so using 1/1 vocal slider is fine imo

[Insane]

00:55:864 (7,1,2,3) - are you sure about this rhythm
changed it to 1/4 on extra instead :v
01:35:205 (2) - add clap on head instead of tail. according to music. sure

[Extra]

if you use same DS in 00:26:582 (1,1,1,1,1) -
you should be use same DS in 00:32:331 (1,1,1,1,1) - , too. patterns are different and the ds within both patterns are consistent, seems fine and looks nice

00:41:852 (2,3,4) - seem to unnatural flow for playing. works fine the way most people I watched play this (and me) play the slider at 00:42:211 (4) -

01:05:564 (4,6) - remove claps cuz seem to heavy hitsound, compare with music.
01:15:624 (6,8) - ^
fine

01:06:283 (2,3) - add clap in tail instead of head k

01:07:450 - add note? not needed, it's not that strong and I'd rather get a jump for the vocal without using a kickslider

01:20:384 - maybe add note or 01:20:205 - not needed

01:44:905 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - if you use accelerator effect in previous partten 01:43:468 (1,1,1,1) -
not fit to growing smaller DS here.
how to do)
- 01:45:264 (1,2) - is bigger than 01:44:905 (1,2) -
- 01:45:624 (1,2) - is bigger than 01:45:264 (1,2) -
etc
added more pp
fixed
thanks Lami!
Rumia-
M4M reply ~
[General]
fine.

[Easy]
fine.

[Normal]
00:19:756 (6) - i think removing this is better , to emphasis the new beat and the bass is quite strong as well
00:29:816 (3) - for me , i would move this to 00:29:995 - for the vocal
00:44:546 (5) - there is no cymbal here , remove finish
00:59:636 (5,6) - both of these sliderend change to sample N:C2
01:04:486 (4) - nc here maybe? since the vocal sounds just like 01:16:163 (1) -
[Hard]
00:21:193 (3) - nc , people could misread this as a 1/2 especially this diff is meant for average players
00:29:995 (1,2) - why is this ds is not the same with others around this part
00:31:612 (1,2) - this one as well
01:38:438 (4) - what does this slider mapped to ? it is clearly not the same as 01:44:007 (2) - , suggest you change it to 2 circles instead

[Insane]
00:13:109 (1) - since this is a continous piano unlike the earlier part , NC isnt necessary here
00:18:319 (3,1,2) - move these up a little so the blanket 00:17:780 (2,3) - would be the same as 00:17:061 (5,1) -
00:32:869 (6) - x:448 y:64 is better imo
01:02:331 (3,4) - instead of circle>slider , try slider>circle would express the vocal and the music better at the same time
01:08:977 (1,2) - this one as well
01:15:265 (3) - remove clap?didnt hear any clap sound here
01:21:103 (4) - same as above
01:25:953 (6) - this triple should be 01:26:133 -
01:29:007 (1) - extend spinner to red tick?


[Extra]
i think there is no reason to put ar 9.1? ar9 already suits this diff much better imo
00:02:870 (1,2) - move this few grids up so distance between 00:03:408 (2,3) - and 00:06:283 (2,3) - could be unified
00:08:618 (1) - i think its better to just change this to circle and highlight the piano here? there is no 1/4 sounds like 00:10:414 (1) - and onwards
00:18:319 (3,1) - swap nc
00:22:989 (3) - add nc , because this slow sv could drop high amount of hp with hr
00:42:031 (3) - move this a bit to left so the overlap between 00:40:414 (2,4,3) - looks nicer ( just editor purpose) didnt affect gameplay tho
00:54:426 (7,8,1) - weird spacing ? i dont see the music could have any intention to do so
01:01:073 (1) - think this is a bit spammy ncs couldve be remove . also the sv change doesnt really do anything tbh
01:14:546 (6) - suggest you move thos to x:180 y:220 is better overlap imo
01:15:804 (7) - 2 grids left 2 grids up so it looks straight with the slider
01:24:426 (7,8) - imo the bass is strong here , couldve have a higher spacing
01:31:612 (2,3,1) - i recommend you to map this as a 5plets to express this part better , since the sounds are obvious
01:46:432 (1) - spinner end mistaken snap?
Topic Starter
Lasse

Rumia- wrote:

M4M reply ~
[General]
fine.

[Easy]
fine.

[Normal]
00:19:756 (6) - i think removing this is better , to emphasis the new beat and the bass is quite strong as well made it a sliderend instead since removing creates a weird 2/1 gap
00:29:816 (3) - for me , i would move this to 00:29:995 - for the vocal whole combo follow the piano as clickable part, see 00:30:714 (5,6) - vocals just happen to be on the same tick most of the time
00:44:546 (5) - there is no cymbal here , remove finish removed for all diffs
00:59:636 (5,6) - both of these sliderend change to sample N:C2 supposed to sound like thatbut you made me notice that I need to silence normal-sliderslide, lol
01:04:486 (4) - nc here maybe? since the vocal sounds just like 01:16:163 (1) - sure
[Hard]
00:21:193 (3) - nc , people could misread this as a 1/2 especially this diff is meant for average players fine
00:29:995 (1,2) - why is this ds is not the same with others around this part literally no idea, fixed but kept jump to 00:31:612 (1) -
00:31:612 (1,2) - this one as well changed a bit
01:38:438 (4) - what does this slider mapped to ? it is clearly not the same as 01:44:007 (2) - , suggest you change it to 2 circles instead made a 1/2 slider

[Insane]
00:13:109 (1) - since this is a continous piano unlike the earlier part , NC isnt necessary here from a musical point it isn;t needed, but since I used it every downbeat before I'll keep it for a conistent nc pattern
00:18:319 (3,1,2) - move these up a little so the blanket 00:17:780 (2,3) - would be the same as 00:17:061 (5,1) - tried
00:32:869 (6) - x:448 y:64 is better imo would make the spacing of this overlap inconsitent with all other ones and the map is abses around those
01:02:331 (3,4) - instead of circle>slider , try slider>circle would express the vocal and the music better at the same time
01:08:977 (1,2) - this one as well
changed first one, second one follow it better as it is imo, same for extra
01:15:265 (3) - remove clap?didnt hear any clap sound here sure for all diffs
01:21:103 (4) - same as above ^
01:25:953 (6) - this triple should be 01:26:133 - can barely hear anything there, while 6 is much stronger so this seems better
01:29:007 (1) - extend spinner to red tick? k


[Extra]
i think there is no reason to put ar 9.1? ar9 already suits this diff much better imo decimals are love :v
00:02:870 (1,2) - move this few grids up so distance between 00:03:408 (2,3) - and 00:06:283 (2,3) - could be unified moved 00:03:947 (3) - instead
00:08:618 (1) - i think its better to just change this to circle and highlight the piano here? there is no 1/4 sounds like 00:10:414 (1) - and onwards made them all into 1/2 sliders
00:18:319 (3,1) - swap nc fine
00:22:989 (3) - add nc , because this slow sv could drop high amount of hp with hr It's fine, I also just increased hp to 6.5, this is how much hp you have left after the slider if you fc with really low acc before on hardrock: http://i.imgur.com/mQsHOzL.jpg considering this is the easiest part of the map I'd expect everyone who has a chance at getting a decent hr play on this to be able to do well enough on the start to not fail here
00:42:031 (3) - move this a bit to left so the overlap between 00:40:414 (2,4,3) - looks nicer ( just editor purpose) didnt affect gameplay tho was overlapped with wrong ds anyways, fixed
00:54:426 (7,8,1) - weird spacing ? i dont see the music could have any intention to do so changed
01:01:073 (1) - think this is a bit spammy ncs couldve be remove . also the sv change doesnt really do anything tbh makes it better to read instead of just filling everything with followpoints, keeps the 1/1 nc pattern and has the nice effect of only drawing down-left followpoints until 01:02:151 (2) -
01:14:546 (6) - suggest you move thos to x:180 y:220 is better overlap imo moved, but not there as that would make the spacing unfitting
01:15:804 (7) - 2 grids left 2 grids up so it looks straight with the slider tried
01:24:426 (7,8) - imo the bass is strong here , couldve have a higher spacing changed this part a bit
01:31:612 (2,3,1) - i recommend you to map this as a 5plets to express this part better , since the sounds are obvious not what I want to follow here :/
01:46:432 (1) - spinner end mistaken snap?see below
thanks for modding!
also relevant for the next people modding this as it got pointed out a few times already:
as for the spinner ending on the blue tick => 01:52:181 - on all diffs, that is intended as the music stops around there and not on the white tick
MikasaSerket
Mod for Mod, I already posted on your forum //
I pointed out small easy stuff

Easy
01:16:163 (1) - Rotate 10 degrees, it looks less slanted that way ;w;

01:03:947 (4) - Instead of making this lean, why not just make it straight>?

Normal
00:40:235 (1,2) - Try making these slightly curved then blanketing them, it makes it different than 00:51:732 (1,2,3) - which has a similar pattern but reversed


Why not make 01:05:384 (3) - the same as 01:05:744 (4) - >? They provide a similar pattern and provide contrast to the straight slider in 01:06:103 (1) -


01:18:139 (2) - You should do a beat similar to the one below, it matches the vocals of the singer a lot better than the long slider.

Hard

00:02:870 (1,2,3,4) - Why not shift this entire section more towards the middle? It provides contrast for the fact that the pattern is very symmetrical like.

00:27:840 (4) - Add more of a curve so that it blankets a lot better with 00:28:378 (5) -

00:36:103 (2,3,4) - I am not really feeling a good flow with this triple right here whenever I testplay it, I would suggest making it similar to 00:36:462 (5) - and how it is a repeating slider. It plays with a nicer flow that way.

01:09:875 (3) - I personally do not like how it is going straight forward, it looks a bit >? Awkward>? When playing I mean, I would suggest moving it towards a teensie bit to the left so that it is not directly on top of 01:10:414 (1) - 's slider end.

Insane

The blankets on this difficulty are very nice <3

00:19:396 (2) - Why not just make this straight instead of slanted? Not really any reason, just personal preference.

00:31:253 (5) - Remove the slider and add a hitcircle to 00:31:253 - This provides a small pause on the red tick which matches to the vocals of the singer, and also this way, the beat is not being continuous.

Some of the jumps I do not like visually, such as 01:16:522 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - however, they do play well so there is not really a problem with that ;w;

Extra

00:05:744 (1,2) - Make these like 00:02:870 (1,2) - and how they blanket eachother (Something similar to the one down below)


Other than that, I honestly did not find anything wrong with extra, it is well mapped, this entire map is well mapped, that's why I couldn't mod it very easily.

Hopefully you were able to find anything useful, if you did not, don't kudos. Good luck with mapping!
Topic Starter
Lasse

MikasaSerket wrote:

Mod for Mod, I already posted on your forum //
I pointed out small easy stuff

Easy
01:16:163 (1) - Rotate 10 degrees, it looks less slanted that way ;w; rotated slightly

01:03:947 (4) - Instead of making this lean, why not just make it straight>? fine

Normal
00:40:235 (1,2) - Try making these slightly curved then blanketing them, it makes it different than 00:51:732 (1,2,3) - which has a similar pattern but reversed but they are pretty much the same musically, so using the same pattern works fine


Why not make 01:05:384 (3) - the same as 01:05:744 (4) - >? They provide a similar pattern and provide contrast to the straight slider in 01:06:103 (1) -
sure

01:18:139 (2) - You should do a beat similar to the one below, it matches the vocals of the singer a lot better than the long slider.
current works fine for vocal-melody-vocal

Hard

00:02:870 (1,2,3,4) - Why not shift this entire section more towards the middle? It provides contrast for the fact that the pattern is very symmetrical like. sure

00:27:840 (4) - Add more of a curve so that it blankets a lot better with 00:28:378 (5) - not my intention here, I'd rather keep the shape consistent with before

00:36:103 (2,3,4) - I am not really feeling a good flow with this triple right here whenever I testplay it, I would suggest making it similar to 00:36:462 (5) - and how it is a repeating slider. It plays with a nicer flow that way. Kept the triple but changed stacking and pattern

01:09:875 (3) - I personally do not like how it is going straight forward, it looks a bit >? Awkward>? When playing I mean, I would suggest moving it towards a teensie bit to the left so that it is not directly on top of 01:10:414 (1) - 's slider end.works fine

Insane

The blankets on this difficulty are very nice <3

00:19:396 (2) - Why not just make this straight instead of slanted? Not really any reason, just personal preference. current is nicer for me/color]

00:31:253 (5) - Remove the slider and add a hitcircle to 00:31:253 - This provides a small pause on the red tick which matches to the vocals of the singer, and also this way, the beat is not being continuous. [color=#FFBF00]would completely ignore the piano on 00:31:432 -


Some of the jumps I do not like visually, such as 01:16:522 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - however, they do play well so there is not really a problem with that ;w;pls no hate on simple polygons ;_;

Extra

00:05:744 (1,2) - Make these like 00:02:870 (1,2) - and how they blanket eachother (Something similar to the one down below)
don't see a reason for that and current one works fine

Other than that, I honestly did not find anything wrong with extra, it is well mapped, this entire map is well mapped, that's why I couldn't mod it very easily.

Hopefully you were able to find anything useful, if you did not, don't kudos. Good luck with mapping!
thanks for modding!
Iceskulls
from q

[easy]
  1. 00:09:516 (2) - I think this rhythm sound better and a bit easier to play
  2. 00:15:265 (2) - sound like the 1/1 beat here 00:15:444 - sound a bit more noticable more than 1/2 so I guess I would map this 1/1 slider instead
  3. 00:26:762 - why not map this vocal beat ? it kinda make the rhythm a bit more consistent imo
  4. 01:17:959 - place clap here ? sound nice imo
[normal]
  1. 00:07:899 (3) - idk lol but reverse slider just sound weird for me here I think normal 1/2 slider would just sound better
  2. 01:03:947 (3,1) - I think this rhythm would work better
  3. 01:06:103 (1) - this play pretty weird imo same with having a short pause here 01:06:462 - , I would just use 1/1 slider here instead since it sound better and will make good transition with the next note
  4. 01:45:624 (2,3) - mmm little inconsistent spacing
[hard]
  1. 00:09:875 (6,1,2) - rhythm here sound weird , I'm not sure what you're following here but I guess I would do this rhythm instead cus it sound nice with the music
  2. 00:21:193 (3) - the nc should start here 00:21:193 (3) - instead of 00:21:732 (1) - , doesn't it ? (the spacing difference)
  3. 00:22:271 (2) - I don't think this need nc lol since without nc it still easy read and notice spacing chaning thing there
  4. 01:00:714 (1,1,1) - not really need to nc so much imo the main spacing for all 4 notes is like in form of 1/4 spacing so without nc it still easy to read it
  5. 01:12:211 (1,1,1) - same
  6. 01:17:420 (1) - I guess downbeat for sliderend here doesn't work that much like the previous one cus I think the next beat just doesn't sound strong enough to do the emphasis thing for the downbeat there so I guess this rhythm would just work a lots better
  7. 01:18:498 (3) - sound weird here imo idk , this rhythm might sound better imo
  8. 01:20:474 - imo this downbeat sound a bit strong and would make a rhythm sound better if you map it
  9. 01:22:450 (2) - , 01:23:887 (2) - so mmm just my opinion so you intend to emphasis only the two notes there with the hitsound then leave another one sound unemphasized I just think that it would make a bit more sense if you would also emphasis the two notes that you hitsounded them by making it clickable too so yea lol
[insane]
  1. AIBat v3.1 wrote:

    Snapping
    01:02:333 (3) - Unsnapped slider (start).
  2. 00:18:319 (3) - same as 00:21:193 (3) - in hard
  3. 00:21:193 (3) - nc for anti jump ?
  4. 01:11:133 (5) - I think if you place this at around x424 y100 it would make flow here 01:11:133 (5,6) - a bit better

    a I just think that low spacing like 00:26:402 (2,1,2,3,4) - , 00:41:313 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - , etc can't express the feeling or impact or w/e that much lol Ifeeling like higher spacing would just make those thing express the song better
[extra]
  1. 00:26:582 (1,1,1,1) - ,00:32:331 (1,1,1,1) - somehow I don't think 1/4 slider like this would work clearly the 1/4 sound there aren't exist the music then yea I guess that why you silence sliderend here but still it's just sound really weird the music doesn't call for any kind of 1/4 pattern here imo so I guess that why it make thing here sound weird for me , using a circle just feel a lots better since it consist with the music better
  2. 00:34:846 (3,4) - the spacing keep decrasing for the cymbal at (4) that make the spacing here looks weird , I guess give a bit higher spacing to (4) would make thing play better , try placing (4) at around x480 y284
  3. 00:55:864 (8,9,1) - flow is kinda derp at 00:55:953 (9,1) - imo , why not just just use curve or straight pattern for that triplet
  4. 01:08:798 (6,1) - mmm why a sudden drop in spacing when the beat sound similiar to each other I think increase spacing for (1) just make thing play better
  5. 01:10:325 - ,01:10:145 - ,01:09:247 - ,01:09:606 - these are place where you can put a 1/4 note which can make the diff play a bit more like extra
aa spacing spacing spacing re re checking spacing ~ and also I find that some slider pattern can improve like make it looks better and creative but that just a my opinion lol

good luck :)
Topic Starter
Lasse

CelsiusLK wrote:

from q

[easy]
  1. 00:09:516 (2) - I think this rhythm sound better and a bit easier to play kept this but changed rhythm after a bit
  2. 00:15:265 (2) - sound like the 1/1 beat here 00:15:444 - sound a bit more noticable more than 1/2 so I guess I would map this 1/1 slider instead feels pretty much equal to me, so I'll keep it
  3. 00:26:762 - why not map this vocal beat ? it kinda make the rhythm a bit more consistent imo done
  4. 01:17:959 - place clap here ? sound nice imodone
[normal]
  1. 00:07:899 (3) - idk lol but reverse slider just sound weird for me here I think normal 1/2 slider would just sound better goes really well with background stuff on the tick and you don't click more anyways
  2. 01:03:947 (3,1) - I think this rhythm would work better current follows vocals fine and gives a nice lower density
  3. 01:06:103 (1) - this play pretty weird imo same with having a short pause here 01:06:462 - , I would just use 1/1 slider here instead since it sound better and will make good transition with the next note same here
  4. 01:45:624 (2,3) - mmm little inconsistent spacing fixed
[hard]
  1. 00:09:875 (6,1,2) - rhythm here sound weird , I'm not sure what you're following here but I guess I would do this rhythm instead cus it sound nice with the music redid rhythm to follow piano better
  2. 00:21:193 (3) - the nc should start here 00:21:193 (3) - instead of 00:21:732 (1) - , doesn't it ? (the spacing difference)
  3. 00:22:271 (2) - I don't think this need nc lol since without nc it still easy read and notice spacing chaning thing there yes., fixed both
  4. 01:00:714 (1,1,1) - not really need to nc so much imo the main spacing for all 4 notes is like in form of 1/4 spacing so without nc it still easy to read it
  5. 01:12:211 (1,1,1) - same
    think it's okay for hard since it makes it a bit better to read than just having alle those low spaced same colored things
  6. 01:17:420 (1) - I guess downbeat for sliderend here doesn't work that much like the previous one cus I think the next beat just doesn't sound strong enough to do the emphasis thing for the downbeat there so I guess this rhythm would just work a lots better current follows vocals fine and that is what I want to do here :/
  7. 01:18:498 (3) - sound weird here imo idk , this rhythm might sound better imo yes, that works
  8. 01:20:474 - imo this downbeat sound a bit strong and would make a rhythm sound better if you map it done
  9. 01:22:450 (2) - , 01:23:887 (2) - so mmm just my opinion so you intend to emphasis only the two notes there with the hitsound then leave another one sound unemphasized I just think that it would make a bit more sense if you would also emphasis the two notes that you hitsounded them by making it clickable too so yea lol removed some claps, should be better
[insane]
  1. AIBat v3.1 wrote:

    Snapping
    01:02:333 (3) - Unsnapped slider (start).
    fixed
  2. 00:18:319 (3) - same as 00:21:193 (3) - in hard sure
  3. 00:21:193 (3) - nc for anti jump ? dont think that is needed as the same spacing antijump is introduced before and it should be fine to read
  4. 01:11:133 (5) - I think if you place this at around x424 y100 it would make flow here 01:11:133 (5,6) - a bit better moved 6 instead, changing 5 would ruin the pattern

    a I just think that low spacing like 00:26:402 (2,1,2,3,4) - , 00:41:313 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - , etc can't express the feeling or impact or w/e that much lol Ifeeling like higher spacing would just make those thing express the song better
[extra]
  1. 00:26:582 (1,1,1,1) - ,00:32:331 (1,1,1,1) - somehow I don't think 1/4 slider like this would work clearly the 1/4 sound there aren't exist the music then yea I guess that why you silence sliderend here but still it's just sound really weird the music doesn't call for any kind of 1/4 pattern here imo so I guess that why it make thing here sound weird for me , using a circle just feel a lots better since it consist with the music better Got your point, but the sliders imo go really well with the "beep" sounds there.
  2. 00:34:846 (3,4) - the spacing keep decrasing for the cymbal at (4) that make the spacing here looks weird , I guess give a bit higher spacing to (4) would make thing play better , try placing (4) at around x480 y284 lol I feel stupid now, seems like I accidentally ctrl-g'd 00:34:666 (2,3) - , swapped them made the spacing right again
  3. 00:55:864 (8,9,1) - flow is kinda derp at 00:55:953 (9,1) - imo , why not just just use curve or straight pattern for that triplet changed this
  4. 01:08:798 (6,1) - mmm why a sudden drop in spacing when the beat sound similiar to each other I think increase spacing for (1) just make thing play better balanced spacing a bit better
  5. 01:10:325 - ,01:10:145 - ,01:09:247 - ,01:09:606 - these are place where you can put a 1/4 note which can make the diff play a bit more like extra sure there are sounds there, but they don't feel strong on a "has to be mapped" level and using jumps works fine too :v
aa spacing spacing spacing re re checking spacing ~ and also I find that some slider pattern can improve like make it looks better and creative but that just a my opinion lol

good luck :)
thanks for modding!
Dasvi
Hey, from the queue!

[Insane]

  1. 00:16:163 (2,3) - - Maybe curve the sliders like the ones on 00:14:367 (1,2,3) - ?
  2. 00:31:612 (1) - I think a finish at the start and a clap at the end would be more powerful and fitting
  3. 00:52:091 (3,4) - Curve them inwards?
  4. 01:00:714 (1,2,3,4) - Those sliders play a bit too awkwardly due to the streams being too close and the slider starts too far. I would say to turn all of them towards the left so that it plays and looks like 01:12:570 (1,2,1,2) -
  5. 01:45:983 (1) - Seems out of place and a bit too far compared to the other jumps. Try moving it to 289/253?
And a general (and brave) suggestion. I think after 01:45:983 (1) - you should constanly increase the SV in par with the elevating helicopter like sound.
Also great hitsounds!
Topic Starter
Lasse

Dasvi wrote:

Hey, from the queue!

[Insane]

  1. 00:16:163 (2,3) - - Maybe curve the sliders like the ones on 00:14:367 (1,2,3) - ? current looks nicer here
  2. 00:31:612 (1) - I think a finish at the start and a clap at the end would be more powerful and fitting changed some hitsounding here, there was a wrong finish anyways
  3. 00:52:091 (3,4) - Curve them inwards? both work due to leniency and this looks better to me
  4. 01:00:714 (1,2,3,4) - Those sliders play a bit too awkwardly due to the streams being too close and the slider starts too far. I would say to turn all of them towards the left so that it plays and looks like 01:12:570 (1,2,1,2) - changed 01:00:893 (2,4) -
  5. 01:45:983 (1) - Seems out of place and a bit too far compared to the other jumps. Try moving it to 289/253? spacing is okay and moving it would ruin the whole 01:44:905 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - pattern
And a general (and brave) suggestion. I think after 01:45:983 (1) - you should constanly increase the SV in par with the elevating helicopter like sound.
Also great hitsounds!
thanks!
Avishay
SPOILER
2016-03-20 18:30 Avishay: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/858746 Ito Kanako - Skyclad no Kansokusha [Extra]]
2016-03-20 18:30 Avishay: I'm ready whenever you are
2016-03-20 18:30 Lasse: sure
2016-03-20 18:31 Avishay: 00:03:947 (3,4,5) - it was quite infurating that the whole pattern goes to the left and then suddenly a complete vertical slider
2016-03-20 18:32 Avishay: should probably make the whole pattern vertical as 00:06:822 (3,4,5) - is the same
2016-03-20 18:33 Lasse: hm
2016-03-20 18:34 Lasse: probably sth simple symmetric might work http://i.imgur.com/Zn0kdy0.jpg
2016-03-20 18:34 Avishay: that's even better imo
2016-03-20 18:37 Avishay: 00:17:241 (1) - suddenly adding an other drum feels a bit weird here
2016-03-20 18:37 Avishay: I'd recommend keeping the one every 2 beats
2016-03-20 18:37 Avishay: since you didn't map the one here
2016-03-20 18:38 Lasse: sure, i can remove that clap
2016-03-20 18:38 Lasse: works
2016-03-20 18:38 Avishay: yeah but you should remove the one here 00:17:780 (2) - and add one at the previous slider end to keep the rhythm right
2016-03-20 18:39 Lasse: true
2016-03-20 18:39 Avishay: 00:19:396 (3) - could add one here too
2016-03-20 18:40 Lasse: yeah
2016-03-20 18:41 Avishay: 00:32:869 (1,1) - spacing was consistent here 00:27:121 (1,1) - so please do the same there?
2016-03-20 18:42 Avishay: 00:37:361 (1) - totally deserves much more emphasization, maybe like 00:35:744 (1) - had
2016-03-20 18:43 Lasse: changed the first one. for the second, moving 00:37:181 (7) - should work
2016-03-20 18:43 Lasse: for some more spacing
2016-03-20 18:45 Avishay: 00:57:480 (1) - I feel like this clap is a bitt too obnoxious
2016-03-20 18:46 Avishay: fits some fucntion phantom songs
2016-03-20 18:46 Avishay: not sure about this
2016-03-20 18:46 Lasse: kinda, I'll check for a different one
2016-03-20 18:48 Avishay: 01:15:085 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks and feels pretty tight, spacing it up like a normal star would be cool
2016-03-20 18:48 Lasse: http://puu.sh/nNtbV/7896fdb7d3.wav works I guess
2016-03-20 18:49 Avishay: try it, sounds like it'll fit
2016-03-20 18:49 Avishay: 01:25:145 (2,5,6) - if both of those could be 2 circles or a slider with some similarities it would be really cool with the finishes
2016-03-20 18:50 Avishay: 01:26:223 (1,2,3,4) - quite boring for interesting vocals and instruments
2016-03-20 18:50 Lasse: 01:25:145 (2) - is for the held vocal, while the others each have own vocals
2016-03-20 18:51 Lasse: yeah, but it's 1/1 :/
2016-03-20 18:51 Avishay: working 1/2 with sliders could work I think
2016-03-20 18:52 Lasse: I generally don't have a problem with sliders that end on nothing, but considering the whole maps has none it doesnt feel that fitting
2016-03-20 18:53 Avishay: maybe increasing the spacing between them will help? this way the player will feel less passive while playing those
2016-03-20 18:54 Avishay: like idk something like this
2016-03-20 18:54 Avishay: http://puu.sh/nNtyC/194cbf207d.jpg
2016-03-20 18:54 Avishay: anything can really work
2016-03-20 18:54 Avishay: I'd just prefer almost stacking them
2016-03-20 18:54 Avishay: avoiding*
2016-03-20 18:56 Avishay: 01:32:690 (6,8) - that weird wanna be blanket tho
2016-03-20 18:56 Lasse: yes it would work, but all the 1/1 besides those are 0.4x spacing
2016-03-20 18:56 Lasse: lol
2016-03-20 18:57 Lasse: 01:32:151 (2,6) - is the intended blanket
2016-03-20 18:57 Avishay: yeah but 8 still gets in the way and makes it ugly
2016-03-20 18:57 Lasse: and 8 is there cause of the .4x overlapping thing
2016-03-20 18:57 Lasse: hm
2016-03-20 18:58 Lasse: yeah if I move 2 left I can get both properly
2016-03-20 18:58 Lasse: and keep the overlap consistent
2016-03-20 18:58 Avishay: vv
2016-03-20 18:59 Lasse: http://i.imgur.com/ijW0XnO.jpg at least a bit better, lol http://i.imgur.com/8sL7otz.jpg
2016-03-20 18:59 Lasse: or i just make it ar10
2016-03-20 18:59 Avishay: ar0 even better
2016-03-20 19:00 Avishay: 01:46:343 (1) - quite disappointed in you that you didn't put some cool hitsound here
2016-03-20 19:01 Lasse: I tried some others but they always felt off, so it ended as cymbal
2016-03-20 19:02 Avishay: anyway pretty cool diff, I like the slightly messy structure, bet people nazi about it
2016-03-20 19:04 Avishay: ye hitsounds suggestions apply to all other diffs so make sure you do them for the other diffs too
2016-03-20 19:04 Lasse: did already :v
2016-03-20 19:05 Avishay: shitty wizard
2016-03-20 19:05 Avishay: 00:21:193 (3,4,1) - same like at prev diff
2016-03-20 19:05 Avishay: if slider is moving like that please have the circles like this too
2016-03-20 19:06 Lasse: y, ill stack to the right instead
2016-03-20 19:07 Avishay: 00:29:277 (2,3,1) - feels really odd since everything is mapped to vocals except 3, and right after 3 there's a note that does not relate to the vocals yet it's not mapped
2016-03-20 19:07 Avishay: actually
2016-03-20 19:07 Avishay: there's a vocal there oops lol
2016-03-20 19:07 Avishay: should map it anyway
2016-03-20 19:08 Lasse: it's meant to focus on the piano, vocals being on the clickable piano ticks is pretty much a coincidence, like 1-2-3 are the strongest piano sound
2016-03-20 19:08 Avishay: but there's a piano
2016-03-20 19:08 Avishay: you even mapped it on extra
2016-03-20 19:09 Lasse: o, right. I'll add a circle then
2016-03-20 19:10 Avishay: 00:43:828 (5) - yeah there are no instruments on the next half tick but there's a vocal which is a mapped on extra as well with a slider, something here too would be nice
2016-03-20 19:11 Lasse: repeat 1/2 slider like on extra works
2016-03-20 19:12 Avishay: 01:27:660 (1) - please keep it on the same line of prev circles;;
2016-03-20 19:13 Avishay: 01:31:253 (4,5,6) - is the spacing decrease here intended? since you didn't have any at 01:37:001 (4,5,6) -
2016-03-20 19:13 Avishay: (in comparasion to 01:30:534 (1,2,3) - )
2016-03-20 19:15 Lasse: no, lol. changed it
2016-03-20 19:15 Lasse: happened when I remapped the ending
2016-03-20 19:15 Avishay: pretty nice diff too, could easily find reasons for most of the stuff you did there so everything else was reasonable
2016-03-20 19:17 Avishay: 00:08:618 (1,2,3) - linear movement and then suddenly 00:09:516 (4,5,1) - triangular is just plain weird
2016-03-20 19:18 Lasse: think it works to emphasize the piano on 00:09:875 (1) - without making a jump
2016-03-20 19:18 Lasse: since it breaks the linear thing
2016-03-20 19:19 Avishay: yeah but the cut is too harsh imo, same soft cut like between 00:08:618 (1,2) - is cool
2016-03-20 19:20 Avishay: 00:20:115 (1,2) - 1/1 would fit much better, just like you did at higher diffs
2016-03-20 19:20 Lasse: http://i.imgur.com/5o77V73.jpg maybe
2016-03-20 19:20 Lasse: bit wider angle
2016-03-20 19:21 Avishay: now that's just a 90 degrees cut, move 4 and 5 a bit to the left so the degree is obtuse
2016-03-20 19:21 Lasse: yeah 1/1 is nice
2016-03-20 19:22 Avishay: 00:29:995 (1,2) - move those a bit to the left so the spacing is consitent http://puu.sh/nNvej/22d69e7b39.jpg
2016-03-20 19:23 Lasse: that works if I change the other stuff a bit http://i.imgur.com/ITVYd8R.jpg
2016-03-20 19:23 Avishay: yeah that's quite nice
2016-03-20 19:23 Avishay: 00:32:690 (3) - spacing too, looks quite odd
2016-03-20 19:24 Lasse: lol why did that combo end up with 1.6x
2016-03-20 19:24 Lasse: it's 1.75 like the others now
2016-03-20 19:24 Lasse: or most others
2016-03-20 19:25 Avishay: 01:05:384 (3) - eghhh why not keep the degree gradual change :s
2016-03-20 19:25 Avishay: 01:15:444 (4,1) - should probably be parallel as you did something similar previously and they were prallel
2016-03-20 19:26 Lasse: 01:04:666 (1,2) - are so similar in vocals and that one gets stronger then, so breaking it works fine I think
2016-03-20 19:26 Lasse: sure
2016-03-20 19:26 Avishay: 01:17:420 (1,2,3) - as vocals are really similar the degree between those should actually be the same imo
2016-03-20 19:26 Lasse: can even move 4 to make 01:15:085 (3,4,1) - sliderbodies same distance
2016-03-20 19:27 Lasse: done
2016-03-20 19:27 Avishay: nah that's not necessary imo
2016-03-20 19:27 Avishay: although it's fineif you want to
2016-03-20 19:27 Lasse: it looks nicer anyways and doesnt change how it plays
2016-03-20 19:28 Avishay: 00:02:870 (1) - symmetry please ._. (use ctrl+h for help)
2016-03-20 19:28 Avishay: 00:03:947 (2) - this too
2016-03-20 19:29 Avishay: 00:05:025 (3) - oh and obviously spacing here lol
2016-03-20 19:29 Avishay: oh ops
2016-03-20 19:29 Avishay: nvm
2016-03-20 19:29 Lasse: that was symmetric at one point, idk what happened
2016-03-20 19:29 Lasse: fixed it
2016-03-20 19:30 Avishay: 00:44:905 (6) - sliderend here should probably be a circle, as it feels much better
2016-03-20 19:30 Avishay: even some rhythm construction could work
2016-03-20 19:31 Avishay: oh
2016-03-20 19:31 Avishay: shito
2016-03-20 19:31 Avishay: forgot
2016-03-20 19:31 Avishay: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/860750 Ito Kanako - Skyclad no Kansokusha [Normal]]
2016-03-20 19:31 Avishay: yeah since 00:02:870 (1) - it was about Normal
2016-03-20 19:31 Avishay: so sorry if you got confused lol
2016-03-20 19:32 Avishay: anyway
2016-03-20 19:32 Lasse: it would work, but the sections is already pretty dense
2016-03-20 19:32 Avishay: 00:43:828 (3) - http://puu.sh/nNvSW/ebfff224df.jpg something like this could work
2016-03-20 19:33 Avishay: 00:51:372 (7) - seems more confusing that cool for such diff imo
2016-03-20 19:34 Avishay: 01:22:271 (2) - placing it higher will be much much nicer, x91 y151 for instance, flows much better and less forceful
2016-03-20 19:34 Lasse: yeah, made it 51 easier to read
2016-03-20 19:34 Lasse: 00:44:905 (6) - repeat slider works okay with the vocals and gives a nicer break from clicking for normal imo
2016-03-20 19:35 Lasse: sure I can move that
2016-03-20 19:36 Avishay: 01:35:564 (5) - x336 y36 for more intuitive movment
2016-03-20 19:37 Avishay: 01:45:983 (3) - a bit higher than necessary with the prev slider, either move it to somewhere that goes nicely with the slider or rotate the slider
2016-03-20 19:37 Lasse: done, works better than the sgitty blanket
2016-03-20 19:38 Lasse: it's supposed to be symmetric to the head of the slider
2016-03-20 19:38 Avishay: yeah but the slider itself doesn't really help
2016-03-20 19:39 Lasse: http://i.imgur.com/jmPbZdG.jpg works
2016-03-20 19:39 Avishay: if ds allows it then sure
2016-03-20 19:40 Lasse: also moving the spinner 1/2 later just so it wont appear before 1 has to be clicked
2016-03-20 19:40 Avishay: alright
2016-03-20 19:40 Avishay: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/860750 Ito Kanako - Skyclad no Kansokusha [Normal]]
2016-03-20 19:40 Avishay: 00:22:989 (4) - actually, I wanna ask, why the hell Insane and Hard use spinners here while the other diffs use a slider?
2016-03-20 19:41 Avishay: I would understand if Normal and Easy had a slider, but.. I don't get this
2016-03-20 19:41 Lasse: extra uses one to be fancy :v
2016-03-20 19:41 Lasse: and normal/easy obv cause of recovery time
2016-03-20 19:42 Avishay: it just makes no sense lol, map a slider for other diffs too, it's just stupid that the lower diffs will have a long slider while the highers use a spinner
2016-03-20 19:43 Lasse: yeah I could add one on insane/hard
2016-03-20 19:43 Avishay: alright please do,
2016-03-20 19:43 Avishay: anyway
2016-03-20 19:43 Avishay: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/861172 Ito Kanako - Skyclad no Kansokusha [Easy]]
2016-03-20 19:44 Avishay: 01:46:522 (1) - move it like you did at Normal
2016-03-20 19:44 Avishay: everything else is okay without getting nazi
2016-03-20 19:44 Avishay: now about the set, it's pretty cool, I'll give it a star, get like 3 or more mods to tidy it up a bit, to fix stuff like spacings issues or whatever we found for example
2016-03-20 19:44 Avishay: then you can call me back
2016-03-20 19:44 Avishay: and I'll be a bit more strict then
Topic Starter
Lasse
replaced the spinners at 23 seconds with "cute" sliders for Insane/Hard to be consistent with other diffs
changed a clap and some hitsounding
and the usual pattern/spacing/movement/rhythm/... fixes
Cellina
random mod

Extra

00:29:277 (2) - didn't stack properly on 00:28:738 (1) -
00:36:822 (5,6) - maybe put some more distance for highlight vocal?
00:42:031 (3,4) - same as above
01:07:181 (5,6,7) - imo replace with 2 circles might be better
01:46:343 (1) - x 287 y 345?
Topic Starter
Lasse

Reana wrote:

random mod

Extra

00:29:277 (2) - didn't stack properly on 00:28:738 (1) - fixed
00:36:822 (5,6) - maybe put some more distance for highlight vocal? remade pattern to work better with vocals
00:42:031 (3,4) - same as above keep it like that since the vocals are way weaker than the others
01:07:181 (5,6,7) - imo replace with 2 circles might be better that works
01:46:343 (1) - x 287 y 345?moved a bit, but not exactly there, as it should have the normal overlap distance to 01:45:444 (2) - I used throughout the map
thanks
thzz
hi~
many suggestion about hitsounds again :o

[Easy]
  1. 00:22:271 (3) - add normal-whistle and remove normal-whistle on tail
  2. 00:31:253 - remove normal-whistle? following vocal.
  3. 00:50:295 (3) - remove finish. considering 00:38:798 -
  4. remove finish at 01:03:229 - and 01:06:103 - . less finishes are used after here.
  5. 01:20:115 (3) - move it left a bit and make regular triangle with 01:20:474 (4,5) - . it will looks better imo.
  6. 01:29:097 (2) - add finish?

    1. 01:39:157 - remove finish
    2. 01:39:516 - add finish
    3. 01:40:235 - add finish
  7. 01:46:343 (3) - I like better like this.
[Normal]
  1. 00:09:696 (2,3) - why not putting whistles?
  2. 00:27:301 (2,1) - stack left-down side will be better I think.
  3. from 01:01:792 - to 01:30:534 - , you should use clap on upbeats carefully. It can bereave beat of the song. so I suggest…
    1. 01:07:001 - remove clap
    2. 01:08:438 - remove clap
    3. 01:08:798 - remove clap
    4. 01:13:828 - remove clap
  4. remove finish at 01:03:229 - and 01:06:103 - . less finishes are used after here.
  5. 01:26:582 (2,3,4) - remove clap. bass-drums stops here.

    1. 01:39:157 - remove finish
    2. 01:39:516 - add finish
    3. 01:40:235 - add finish
  6. 01:46:343 (1) - I like better like this.
[Hard]
  1. 00:31:253 - remove normal-whistle? following vocal.
  2. 01:07:001 - remove clap
  3. from 01:01:792 - to 01:30:534 - , you should use clap on upbeats carefully. It can bereave beat of the song. so I suggest…
    1. 01:07:001 - remove clap
    2. 01:08:438 - remove
    3. 01:08:618 - add
    4. 01:08:798 - remove
    5. 01:19:935 - remove
    6. 01:20:115 - add
    7. 01:22:450 - remove
    8. 01:22:630 - add
    9. 01:23:887 - remove
    10. 01:24:067 - add
  4. 01:26:582 (2,3,4) - remove clap. bass-drums stops here.
[Insane]
  1. 00:34:127 (1) - I prefer to make it zig-zag like Hard and Insane.
  2. 01:05:744 (5,6) - this decreasing distance feels weird for me. how about move 01:05:923 (6) - to (330,251)?
  3. 01:17:780 - remove clap
  4. 01:17:959 - add clap
  5. 01:18:139 - remove clap
  6. 01:19:935 - remove clap
  7. 01:19:935 - add clap
  8. 01:20:295 - remove clap
why you can stack objects so beautiful?

[Extra]
  1. 00:27:301 (1) - how about to put normal-sliderwhistle?
  2. 00:33:049 (1) - ^
  3. 00:46:702 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - add normal-whistles?
  4. 01:08:438 - remove clap
  5. 01:08:618 - add clap
  6. 01:08:798 - remove clap
  7. 01:35:205 (2) - add clap
I like the dif.

It is just my own thinking but…
High sound like vocal makes just “melody” for the song.
Bass-drum is low sound, so it makes “beat”. It should not be ring in same rhythm with high sound.
All bass-drums on down-beats makes listeners comfortable imo. On the other hand, bass-drums on up-beats is weird for me, there’re some exception though.

good luck~
Topic Starter
Lasse

thzz wrote:

hi~
many suggestion about hitsounds again :o

[Easy]
  1. 00:22:271 (3) - add normal-whistle and remove normal-whistle on tail
  2. 00:31:253 - remove normal-whistle? following vocal. piano
  3. 00:50:295 (3) - remove finish. considering 00:38:798 -
  4. remove finish at 01:03:229 - and 01:06:103 - . less finishes are used after here.
  5. 01:20:115 (3) - move it left a bit and make regular triangle with 01:20:474 (4,5) - . it will looks better imo. changed it, but in a different way thats easier to read for new players
  6. 01:29:097 (2) - add finish?

    1. 01:39:157 - remove finish
    2. 01:39:516 - add finish
    3. 01:40:235 - add finish
    changed all of those
  7. 01:46:343 (3) - I like better like this. current angle puts a bit more pressure on it which is nice since it's a really strong sound
[Normal]
  1. 00:09:696 (2,3) - why not putting whistles?
  2. 00:27:301 (2,1) - stack left-down side will be better I think.
    not noticeable during gameplay and it makes the other part of the pattern look worse since I won't break ds here
  3. from 01:01:792 - to 01:30:534 - , you should use clap on upbeats carefully. It can bereave beat of the song. so I suggest…
    1. 01:07:001 - remove clap
    2. 01:08:438 - remove clap
    3. 01:08:798 - remove clap
    4. 01:13:828 - remove clap
  4. remove finish at 01:03:229 - and 01:06:103 - . less finishes are used after here.
  5. 01:26:582 (2,3,4) - remove clap. bass-drums stops here.

    1. 01:39:157 - remove finish
    2. 01:39:516 - add finish
    3. 01:40:235 - add finish
    changed most
  6. 01:46:343 (1) - I like better like this. same angle thing as easy
[Hard]
  1. 00:31:253 - remove normal-whistle? following vocal.
  2. 01:07:001 - remove clap
  3. from 01:01:792 - to 01:30:534 - , you should use clap on upbeats carefully. It can bereave beat of the song. so I suggest…
    1. 01:07:001 - remove clap
    2. 01:08:438 - remove
    3. 01:08:618 - add
    4. 01:08:798 - remove
    5. 01:19:935 - remove
    6. 01:20:115 - add
    7. 01:22:450 - remove
    8. 01:22:630 - add
    9. 01:23:887 - remove
    10. 01:24:067 - add
  4. 01:26:582 (2,3,4) - remove clap. bass-drums stops here.
[Insane]
  1. 00:34:127 (1) - I prefer to make it zig-zag like Hard and Insane. current fits fine imo
  2. 01:05:744 (5,6) - this decreasing distance feels weird for me. how about move 01:05:923 (6) - to (330,251)? made a star
  3. 01:17:780 - remove clap
  4. 01:17:959 - add clap
  5. 01:18:139 - remove clap
  6. 01:19:935 - remove clap
  7. 01:19:935 - add clap
  8. 01:20:295 - remove clap
why you can stack objects so beautiful?

[Extra]
  1. 00:27:301 (1) - how about to put normal-sliderwhistle?
  2. 00:33:049 (1) - ^
    pitch is different from the kicksliders and it would feel too much
  3. 00:46:702 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - add normal-whistles? sound differernt and would be too spammy here imo
  4. 01:08:438 - remove clap
  5. 01:08:618 - add clap
  6. 01:08:798 - remove clap
  7. 01:35:205 (2) - add clap
I like the dif.

It is just my own thinking but…
High sound like vocal makes just “melody” for the song.
Bass-drum is low sound, so it makes “beat”. It should not be ring in same rhythm with high sound.
All bass-drums on down-beats makes listeners comfortable imo. On the other hand, bass-drums on up-beats is weird for me, there’re some exception though.

good luck~
thanks
applied most of the hitosunding suggestion I didn't reply to
Kaitjuh
Hi! From your queue~

Smol Mod

Easy

  1. 00:22:989 (4,1) - maybe adjust so the sliderend also gets blanketed properly, might be tricky though
  2. 01:11:852 (3,2) - Blanket space is uneven. Maybe adjust the red point and slider end of 01:13:648 (2) - like this
  3. 01:39:875 (2) - looks kinda stubby xD. Maybe just make it a straight slider.
  4. Other than that the difficulty seems fine and plays well

Normal

  1. 00:22:989 (1) - align the last "bump" with the slider tick
  2. 00:27:301 (2,1) - Stack
  3. 01:27:301 (4,4) - Stack? This one seems kinda far fetched tbh xD

Hard

  1. 00:09:875 (1,2,3,4) - space evenly
  2. 00:10:774 (3,1) - avoid overlap
  3. 00:43:828 (3) - x368 y288 might be a better placement
  4. 00:56:043 (1) - angle this so it blankets 00:55:325 (3) - better
  5. 01:23:349 (1) - angle by -6° so it looks more even

Insane

  1. 00:27:301 -Maybe make this part a little like this?
  2. 01:14:007 (3,5) -move to x372 y200
  3. 01:23:349 (1) - Improve Blanket?

Extra

  1. 01:05:384 (3,4,5,6,1) - Maybe make this more pentagon shaped like 01:08:977 (1,2,3,4,5) -
  2. I'm struggling to find anything in this difficulty. Holy moly this is a fun diff

A very promising mapset. Had a lot of fun playing and modding it, since well made maps are kinda challenging to find flaws in.

Good Luck ^^
Topic Starter
Lasse

Kaitjuh wrote:

Hi! From your queue~

Smol Mod

Easy

  1. 00:22:989 (4,1) - maybe adjust so the sliderend also gets blanketed properly, might be tricky though tried sth
  2. 01:11:852 (3,2) - Blanket space is uneven. Maybe adjust the red point and slider end of 01:13:648 (2) - like surethis
  3. 01:39:875 (2) - looks kinda stubby xD. Maybe just make it a straight slider. cute :c
  4. Other than that the difficulty seems fine and plays well

Normal

  1. 00:22:989 (1) - align the last "bump" with the slider tick prefer current one tbh
  2. 00:27:301 (2,1) - Stack fine
  3. 01:27:301 (4,4) - Stack? This one seems kinda far fetched tbh xD doesnt really make a difference but that works too

Hard

  1. 00:09:875 (1,2,3,4) - space evenly
  2. 00:10:774 (3,1) - avoid overlap cleaned that part up a bit
  3. 00:43:828 (3) - x368 y288 might be a better placement current 90° is fine
  4. 00:56:043 (1) - angle this so it blankets 00:55:325 (3) - better not necessary and makes it too curved
  5. 01:23:349 (1) - angle by -6° so it looks more even fine

Insane

  1. 00:27:301 -Maybe make this part a little like this? current rhythm here focuses on those noises and not vocals
  2. 01:14:007 (3,5) -move to x372 y200 ruins whole structure and the overlap with the slider is not visible during gameplay
  3. 01:23:349 (1) - Improve Blanket?no blanket intended and a lslider which is this curved would look bad here

Extra

  1. 01:05:384 (3,4,5,6,1) - Maybe make this more pentagon shaped like 01:08:977 (1,2,3,4,5) - ? 01:05:025 (2,3,4,5,6) - is a perfect star already
  2. I'm struggling to find anything in this difficulty. Holy moly this is a fun diff

A very promising mapset. Had a lot of fun playing and modding it, since well made maps are kinda challenging to find flaws in.

Good Luck ^^
thanks for modding!

btw, I changed the name of the highest diff from "extra" to sth more related :v
Mazziv
r an k it rn xd brb calling bonsai
Avishay
[I'm uneducated about this diffname]
  1. 00:17:241 (1) - Pretty sure we went over this before, but.. remove clap from head and put on tail, this way it is consistent with 00:16:881 (4) - and 00:18:319 (1) -
  2. I don't really understand the usage of the whistle normal from 00:07:899 (5) -, it seems a bit weird.. I understand it at 00:09:875 (6) - because it is the last piano note in the sequence and it is held. Therefore one would fit at 00:13:109 (1) -, but why at 00:14:007 (3) - ? If anything, it should've been at 00:13:648 (2) - as it is stronger. Yeah, I can't really understand the next ones too.. It seems too random for me to understand. So please revise those.
  3. 01:17:780 (2) - Literally the only slider of this kind in the whole diff, limits the movement and it might be playable as a static slider, unlike everything else in the kiai which is pretty straight forward in terms of movement so I'd advise changing this one.
  4. Hitsound stuff applies to all diffs relevant.
[Hard]
  1. 00:21:193 (1,2,3) - Equal spacing would be cool.
Everything else is okay.
Topic Starter
Lasse
fixed everything
slider is now a flipped version of 01:16:881 (4) - which works really well after minor changes to the pattern
changed some of the normal whistles to soft and swapped some around to hopefullly work better for all diffs
diffname should be okay
(might coantain small Steins;Gate spoilers) => http://steins-gate.wikia.com/wiki/FG204
this thing http://experten.cocolog-nifty.com/annex ... 2nd-e.html (kinda hard to find sth about it, lol)
thanks for checking again!
Avishay
Okay!
Mazziv
qualified soon tm
Shiranai
Hello
Sugestion,

FG204 things
  1. What's that diff name mean, I don't really get it, care to explain?
  2. The beat on 00:12:929 - better to be more clickable, try this rhythm http://puu.sh/od0Wc/4d72a2e5d6.jpg ?
  3. 00:27:301 (1) - and 00:28:019 (1) - I think you can add soft whistle sound on its slider body for both slider, for a better emphsized on electronic sound?
  4. 00:31:073 (5) - and 00:35:384 (5) - Try to add nc for a better readability on the anti jump
  5. 00:47:420 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think using 0.5 sv multiplier is a good choice on that part, the music itself literally constant, so by using 0,75 sv like you did on first one is way more reasonable to be played imo
  6. 00:56:313 (2) - Delete that? imo there's no beat to be emphsized
  7. 00:57:480 - Try to add whistle there to make the hitsound pattern more consistent?
  8. 01:45:085 (2) - Delete the whistle? it makes the whole sound not harmonized
Insane
  1. 00:22:271 (1,2) - Swap nc? to make the slowdown slider easier to distinguished
  2. 00:27:301 (1) - and 00:28:019 (1) - I think you can add soft whistle sound on its slider body for both slider, for a better emphsized on electronic sound?
  3. 00:35:384 (6) - NC for anti jump
  4. 00:46:343 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - After several testplay, that pattern too confusing because of its placement
  5. 00:56:313 (2) - Delete that? imo there's no beat to be emphsized
  6. 00:57:480 - Add whistle? same reason as on fg204
Hard
  1. The beat on 00:10:055 - can be more clickable, so at least maybe you can try this rhythm http://puu.sh/od2OX/55e5eff73c.jpg
  2. 00:48:319 (1,2) - Swap nc? misplacing I guess
  3. 00:57:480 - Add whistle?
  4. 01:15:983 (1,2) - You can try to ctrl+g those, to cover a better vocal and music
Normal
  1. 00:57:480 - Add whistle?
  2. 01:40:594 (1) - and 01:46:343 (1) - why nc? I thought you are gonna follow making nc on every two downbeat like on first part 00:02:870 - , yet on this part 01:31:971 - your nc rather not consistent
  3. Some of 1/2 rhythm usement kinda too long imo e.g. 01:14:726 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - and etc, I think it would be good if you tone down the density on this diff a bit, so it can help balaning the spread
Easy
  1. 00:22:989 (4) - Nc due to measurement
  2. 00:57:480 - Add whistle?
  3. 01:29:007 - On that part, I'm not sure why you decide to mapping that part, yet on another diffs you just simply insert a spinner there. Maybe at least you can make it more consistent?
Mazziv

Mako Sakata wrote:

Hello
Sugestion,

FG204 things
What's that diff name mean, I don't really get it, care to explain?
FG204 stands for Future Gadget 204,a time Machine that the future version of Itaru Hashida created.
source
Topic Starter
Lasse

Mako Sakata wrote:

Hello
Sugestion,

FG204 things
  1. What's that diff name mean, I don't really get it, care to explain? p/5000568 should explain it
  2. The beat on 00:12:929 - better to be more clickable, try this rhythm http://puu.sh/od0Wc/4d72a2e5d6.jpg ? current works way better with piano imo ./
  3. 00:27:301 (1) - and 00:28:019 (1) - I think you can add soft whistle sound on its slider body for both slider, for a better emphsized on electronic sound? soft sliderwhistle sounds bad imo and normal would be too much, I prefer to only emphasize the short ones
  4. 00:31:073 (5) - and 00:35:384 (5) - Try to add nc for a better readability on the anti jump fine
  5. 00:47:420 (1,2,3,4) - I don't think using 0.5 sv multiplier is a good choice on that part, the music itself literally constant, so by using 0,75 sv like you did on first one is way more reasonable to be played imo electronic sounds get a bit more quiet with each repeat, which is why spacing and sv decrease
  6. 00:56:313 (2) - Delete that? imo there's no beat to be emphsized sound on blue tick abd 00:56:402 (3) - is pretty strong, so this is fine
  7. 00:57:480 - Try to add whistle there to make the hitsound pattern more consistent? done for all diffs
  8. 01:45:085 (2) - Delete the whistle? it makes the whole sound not harmonized sure
Insane
  1. 00:22:271 (1,2) - Swap nc? to make the slowdown slider easier to distinguished yes
  2. 00:27:301 (1) - and 00:28:019 (1) - I think you can add soft whistle sound on its slider body for both slider, for a better emphsized on electronic sound? like above
  3. 00:35:384 (6) - NC for anti jump sure
  4. 00:46:343 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - After several testplay, that pattern too confusing because of its placement I already got several opinions on this and it seemed fine for everyone :/ I put lots of thought behind the pattern and it fits really well, would hurt to change it...
    Also the whole "overlaps and a bit harder to read than most insanes" is pretty much the idea of the difficulty, which is why I also went with a little lower than average ar
  5. 00:56:313 (2) - Delete that? imo there's no beat to be emphsized see extra
  6. 00:57:480 - Add whistle? same reason as on fg204 yes
Hard
  1. The beat on 00:10:055 - can be more clickable, so at least maybe you can try this rhythm http://puu.sh/od2OX/55e5eff73c.jpg works well with piano and keeps clicking density a bit lower
  2. 00:48:319 (1,2) - Swap nc? misplacing I guess both work, so I changed it
  3. 00:57:480 - Add whistle? yes
  4. 01:15:983 (1,2) - You can try to ctrl+g those, to cover a better vocal and music dont want vocal on sliderend here, current follow held vocal => strong vocal well
Normal
  1. 00:57:480 - Add whistle? done
  2. 01:40:594 (1) - and 01:46:343 (1) - why nc? I thought you are gonna follow making nc on every two downbeat like on first part 00:02:870 - , yet on this part 01:31:971 - your nc rather not consistent oh, remade nc to 8/1 for this part like before
  3. Some of 1/2 rhythm usement kinda too long imo e.g. 01:14:726 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - and etc, I think it would be good if you tone down the density on this diff a bit, so it can help balaning the spread gap to both other diffs is ~80 objects and the density difference seems fine
    I renamed the lower difficulties to normal and advanced though to better indicate actual difficulty
Easy
  1. 00:22:989 (4) - Nc due to measurement yes
  2. 00:57:480 - Add whistle? done
  3. 01:29:007 - On that part, I'm not sure why you decide to mapping that part, yet on another diffs you just simply insert a spinner there. Maybe at least you can make it more consistent? made it a spinner like other diffs
also changed 00:02:870 (1,2) - on insane from waves to other shapes which look better here
and as mentioned changed names of easy - normal => normal - advanced since old "normal" was a bit dense and I don't want it to end like miraizu, lol
hope my reasoning makes sense to you and I'm kinda attached to that pattern on insane :?
thanks for modding!
Shiranai
I think normal-sliderwhistle2.wav is not in use, since you barely add normal whistle to any slider body
Let me know again :)
Topic Starter
Lasse
Oh, it's used for that effect on the kicksliders in the highest diff
00:26:582 (1,1,1,1) -
00:32:331 (1,1,1,1) -
=> sampleset custom 2 + normal additions
it's the same as default butI still include it since some people have a different one or muted one in their skins and wouldn't get the effect then
also made the name of the last diff shorter since it seemed a bit too much to me :d
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