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Mutsuhiko Izumi - Snow Goose [Osu|Taiko]

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wmfchris
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, 31 December, 2010 at 12:20:47

Artist: Mutsuhiko Izumi
Title: Snow Goose
Source: jubeat
Tags: Saturio ignorethis eggpain
BPM: 200
Filesize: 3256kb
Play Time: 01:37
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.7 stars, 197 notes)
  2. ignore's Insane (5 stars, 344 notes)
  3. Normal (3.1 stars, 126 notes)
  4. Sharon's (5 stars, 480 notes)
  5. Taiko (4.78 stars, 730 notes)
Download: Mutsuhiko Izumi - Snow Goose
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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12th beatmap
Ready for modding.

Sharon's by Saturio (>3<)
ignore's hard by ignorethis

EXTRA stuffs:
[Taiko] (HARDER) by me, 4.95 star http://puu.sh/kwB
[Extreme] by me, 5 star http://puu.sh/kQW
[Doomsday's Extreme] by Doomsday93, http://puu.sh/sc5

23/10/10 fixed several mods. (aabc, AVWolf, eveless, arien666, al2e10, Pokie, Fight69)
25/10/10 fixed mods. (ign)
27/10/10 fixed mods. (icebeam)
29/10/10 fixed mods. (Leorda) Added ign's diff.
1/11/10 fixed mods. (Vikon)
3/11/10 fixed mods. (bakaying)
5/11/10 fixed mods. (NR)
13/11/10 fixed mods. (xier)
19/11/10 fixed mods. (Roddie)
21/11/10 fixed mods. (orion)
aabc271
Hi~
Here is my taiko mod~
Mod request by wmfchris

Blue~ Critical issues, you must fix this
Purple~ I think you should fix this
Pink~ Suggestions only

[Taiko]

I think this is a bit overmapped. If I cancel the rest in the middle and the time at the beginning where the long spinner is located, the note density exceeds 9. It is quite tiring to play because of the high note density and BPM, so i think you should cancel some notes~

00:02:482 (1) Maybe change the ending point of the slider to 00:08:182 and add a note at 00:08:482 ?

01:36:082 (749) Change to d since the music here is silent ?

Same as usual, no errors found~ :)

All fine but a little bit overmapped~

Star and good luck~ ;)
Amethyst Wolf
Attention:
If I put a '?' there, you can do that if you want.
If I put a '.' there, you have to do thet.
If I put a '+' there, that's mean "and the follow Hit Object".
All gril change in lv3. Remember to take care following hitobject's snap.
Remember to check distance after you fix your Hit Object.

[Extreme]
  1. Normal-whistle makes me in a bad mood. Try to make it quietly?
00:19:73(3) - right 1 grid?
01:01:13(6) - left & up 1 gird?


[Sharon's]
  1. Normal-whistle makes me in a bad mood. Try to make it quietly?
00:11:78(4) - right 1 gird.
00:16:88(5) - right & up 1 grid?
01:14:18(4) - left 1 gird.
01:21:30(4-8)-up 1 gird.
Sandpig
200bpm超过我能力了><
前边很舒服 star~
eveless
[General]
两个浅一点的蓝色容易混淆
担心难度分布

[Sharon's]
我觉得口哨要么就大片都加...这样加一点又不加...感觉不太舒服 纯属个人意见

00:10:280 (3) - 第二个折返加wh
00:10:880 (1) - 尾巴折返
00:11:480 (2) - wh
00:27:230 (4) - 开头加wh
00:29:330 (2) - 尾巴加wh
00:30:080 (1) - ^
00:30:980 (3) - 开头wh
00:32:330 (1) - wh
00:36:830 (4) - 开头wh
建议那段长连打的wh密度高一点

[Ex]
AR最少+1

排版有些...

00:35:782 (8) - New combo
01:00:682 (3,4,5,6) - 感觉位置不太好
01:27:907 (8) - 这里放3/4有点奇怪 虽然不是不能理解 往前移到红线?

[Hard]
AR最少+1....

00:12:082 (4) - New combo
01:21:082 (5) - 不建议这串全加clap...ooxxxoxxo?

[Easy]
00:02:482 (1) - 这有够长的spin
arien666
[General]
First of all, delete unused osb file :3

[Easy]
01:20:482 (3,4,5) - [Suggestion and nazi orz] How about move 1 grid right and down?
01:25:282 (1,1) - [Nazi] How about move 1 grid down to make same distance?
01:35:482 (4) - It might be 2 returns, not 3 returns ;_;

[Hard]
00:18:682 (3,4,1) - It seems like Insane thing imo ;_; Cuz of confusion :3...?
01:09:982 (1) - Delete NC :3
01:09:682 (1) - If you do ^ thing, change combo color please :3

[Taiko :3]
OMG TOO HARD ;_;
00:33:682 (219) - Delete Finish :3?

[Extreme]
OMG, TOO HARD :3
01:21:082 (6,7,8,9,10) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?

[Sharon's]
Seems fine :3



Umm...
Where's goose ?<<<
al2e10
Simple of sounding ~~~

At first, it is a good song.
Get your best ! 加油!

Download: Mutsuhiko Izumi - Snow Goose (wmfchris) [Hard].osu
Saturio
Muya
:shock:
Topic Starter
wmfchris
>_<
Pokie
General
  • - sliderwhistle基本不需要
    - Offset: 2472 統一各難度offset, resnap, 調整綠線位置
    - Combo Color:
    Combo1 : 20,96,222
    Combo2 : 184,225,237
    Combo3 : 89,197,255
    Combo4 : 40,148,255

Easy
  • 00:16:572 (2,1) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/32483
    00:32:472 (1) - sliderwhistle再見
    00:48:072 (1,2,3) - 給Easy的話難度偏高, 建議複製00:45:672 (1,2,3) - 再重新排
    01:11:172 (6,1) - 這裡的連接性差


    Hard
    [list:2f4ea]
00:24:522 (2) - 這裡可以考慮new combo 或加上 00:23:482 (1) - 取消new combo
00:30:072 (3,4) - 不打算放在一水平上?
00:51:672 (2) - 少了一個折返
00:56:172 (3,4) - 會造成誤讀, 試著4 new combo?
01:07:572 (1,2,3) - 這三個基本看不到順序 slider短的話沒關係 但如果以後也要放這種排法的長slider就要注意一下
01:36:672 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 低AR造成5連的外圈擠在一起 在不動OA的情況下 希望可以把5連換成1/4 slider 另外這個結尾處理的不夠


Extreme
  • - 我不理解為什麼AR要和Hard一樣 AR +2 OA隨便你加不加
00:20:172 (4) - new combo
00:21:372 (5) - ^
00:21:672 (1) - 取消
00:22:872 (6) - new combo
00:23:472 (11) - ^
00:40:872 (1) - 結束點: 00:42:072 -
00:42:072 (1) - 起始點: 00:42:147 - 結束點不變
00:50:472 (1,2,3,4) - 這四個即使開了AR8 也是難以閱讀 改間距
00:50:772 (1) - 取消new combo
00:51:372 (5) - ^
01:00:672 (3,4,5,6) - 這四個note的角度太那啥了啊
01:27:672 (7) - new combo 方便辨認3/4


Sharon's
  • - wth saymun's dBu mix Himiko
沒什麼能挑的 cp痕跡稍明顯
Fight69
Heya there o/

[General]

As usual, delete the .osb file and full submit blah blah blah...

mp3 = 320kbit/s

orz...

You need to reencode it at 256kbit/s
320kbit/s is unrankable :/
Try to find someone for that

Also, there is a different kiai time on Sharon's and...a different timing ?! o.o

PS : I don't know how to mod Taiko, sorry...

[Easy]

Seems fine

[Hard]

Sometimes, it's very...square

01:06:382 (5) - Make it 1/1 shorter then add a reverse arrow or a circle
01:36:682 (3) - New combo ?

[Extreme]

00:40:882 (1) - Finish this spinner at 00:41:782
00:43:432 (1) - Finish this slider at 00:43:732 (make it 1/2 shorter)
00:44:782 (6) - Move this spinner 1/2 earlier
00:50:482 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Look like a weird accelerated spacing
01:00:532 - This part don't fit very well with the song, something like that should be fine : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/32490
01:09:843 - ^ : http://puu.sh/kPR
01:18:532 (5) - Make it 1/2 shorter and add a reverse arrow (like that : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/32489 )
01:24:082 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Uh ? This spacing is... o.o
01:33:832 (1,2,3) - Hardly readable due to previous sliders
01:37:132 (6) - Use 2 circles instead of a slider ?

I don't like this diff very much :/

[Sharon's]

01:10:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - The spacing seems a bit different from the previous circles here
01:34:730 (7) - The whistle on this slider seems weird (yeah, I dunno how I've noticed it xD)

Nice job !
(so haaaard ! xD)
Topic Starter
wmfchris
ok fixed
Saturio
[Sharon's]

01:10:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - The spacing seems a bit different from the previous circles here I know.. cause I want
01:34:730 (7) - The whistle on this slider seems weird (yeah, I dunno how I've noticed it xD) fixedNice job !
(so haaaard ! xD)[/quote]

Download: Mutsuhiko Izumi - Snow Goose (wmfchris) [Sharon's].osu
ignorethis
offset +15ms

The score gap between hard and sharon's is too large. A difficulty with a total score of ~5-7m is needed.

sharon's dif is cool though 8-)
Saturio
IceBeam
[Easy]
Rename to Normal.
I suggest you to reduce volume of hitsounds,they're much louder then the song.
00:08:480 - Add some hitsounds,finish at least.
00:20:480 - Rhytm breaks w/o this note,add please.
00:21:680 - ^
00:33:680 - Finish.
00:40:580 - Add a note?
00:46:880 - Finish?
00:52:880 - ^
01:12:080 - ^

[Hard]
Same suggestions about finishes as in Easy.
00:24:080 - Finish.

Others seems fine to me.
kenji
star!!
Selee
8-)
NatsumeRin
nice.
Leorda
NI HAO

[General]
About difficulty spread, the difficulty spread is N-I-(I)-I-I. That difficult spread is very very extreme. I suggest you make an easier diff or average diff. So the there is much space for average player

[Easy]
Ugh, the slider velocity is waaaay too high for easy diff, please reduce it, otherwise the new/beginner player will difficult to trace it

00:21:698 (4) - New combo?
00:24:548 (2) - ^
00:38:198 (1) - Remove whistle at trace (keep the whistle at start and end of slider), whistle at slider trace is so odd
01:09:398 (3,4,5) - Ugly overlapping, maybe?


[Hard]
00:34:148 (1) - Make symetric?
00:34:898 (2) - ^
01:33:098 (3) - Extend this to 01:33:398?

[Extreme]
No kiai??

00:26:198 (7) - New combo?
00:36:398 (x) - Add note here?

[Sharon's]
Sharon is robot~

Nice song
STAR
Topic Starter
wmfchris
My plan is
1)Current easy -> normal
2)Substitute extreme by ign's diff with similar score
3)Add a easy (which is really easy) is needed.

Back in a few hours and will fix them.
ignorethis
Topic Starter
wmfchris
fixed so it will be
Normal - Hard - Hard+ - Insane - Taiko
this should be fine enough :/
Dotsu
~STAR~
Saturio
Vikon
[General]
1) tag加上ignore
2) 基本上黎講,最易果個diff ,star rating 低於3好d.. 而家[Nomral] 係3.12,得閒就改改佢啦,唔得閒就加油了 (拍肩
3) 總覺得default clap使人聽得不舒服。但又找不到非常合適的hitsound,試聽聽附件的2個吧,效果未必很好,不用也可。

[Normal]
01:06:998 加clap?

[Hard]
00:18:098 (1,2,3) - 主要係1同2疊得太亂,攪到有點hard to read
總覺得有d節奏好亂,要玩家去跟有難度,例如00:56:198 (3,4,5,6,7) (我沙包,我承認 囧)


[ignore's hard]
00:23:573 (4) - timing point 與note 重疊了,把綠線放前1/8~?
00:23:873 (7) - ^

[Taiko]
太鼓沒有需要我的地方 (拍肩

[Sharon's]
B_T stream (拍肩
00:52:898 (1) - kiai time不能同時作聲音加大的效果,在00:52:860 加一timing point 改聲量吧? (用1/8)
01:01:523 kiai time 改在 01:01:448 end? (習慣來說,會與note一起結束,較同步)
01:30:030 這timing point 是要使spinner 靜音? 若然是的話,就放前一點吧,放在spinner的end 達不到這效果。
01:30:060 在這裏加一timing point改聲量? (kiai不能同時改聲量)

Download: test.rar
Saturio
[Shalon]
snow gooooooooooooose, haha

STAR ;)
Topic Starter
wmfchris

[Shalon] wrote:

snow gooooooooooooose, haha

STAR ;)
hey you haven't star it (runs
Kotone
Sharon's
01:02:498(1,2,3,4,5,......) - long stream.再鬼畜也不能10s都是circle吧(遠目

Normal
00:02:498(1) - spinner好長,轉這么久會手軟吧
00:48:848(3) - 1 grid down
01:21:747 - Delete Break

Hard
hitsound有點吵
00:02:498(1) - like Normal
Saturio
[quote="karenying"]Sharon's
01:02:498(1,2,3,4,5,......) - long stream.再鬼畜也不能10s都是circle吧(遠目
DEEPSEA SAID IT IS OKAY!!!! ;)
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
看见歌顿时就stress
你真的想要countdown吗(实际上没有表现)

[Normal]
00:24:998 (2,3) - 换slider,对应后面
00:43:748 - 加音
00:51:698 (1) - 这里之后我认为已经超出Normal范畴,虽然星数可以,但我还是建议你弄个Easy防万一
01:34:898 (3) - 去掉sliderwhistle

[Hard]
00:55:598 (1) - 这一串压力
00:57:548 (7,1) - 跳的没什么理由啊。。
01:08:498 (4) - 去掉sliderwhistle
01:15:998 (5) - 尾finish

[ignore's Hard]
声音略小
00:25:298 (5) - new combo
01:02:948 (2,3,4,5,6) - 卧槽自重。3new combo吧至少
01:04:148 (2,3,4,5,6) - ……^
01:05:348 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:36:998 - 少个音
结合BPM,我很难认为这是Hard.

[Taiko]
……我都习以为常

[Sharon's]
00:52:748 (4,1) - 这有点太过奔放
01:00:998 (4,5) - 感觉应该继续slider不要停鼠标
01:02:498 (1) - 这一段压力。真的有这样的必要么。我觉得歌的节奏没到非1/4啪啪啪不可。
01:27:098 (2) - 用Normal音好些
Topic Starter
wmfchris
normal - Holy Moon [Easy] 我也是這樣做 過了 [stress]


normal, hard fixed.
matthewhln
Star
xierbaliti
-Normal-
看起来没啥毛病

-Hard-
我看着这diff怎么像是zekira做的._. 真的是太方正了
没发现什么错误

-一个脑-
00:25:298 (5) - new combo! 我2次没看出来这里的变化 D:

-Sharon-
countdown没用 去掉
01:02:498 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,
7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,
12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - stress 这没毛病 不过你这难度要真是光为那几个插件做的话我一句话都没有 ╮(╯▽╰)╭

我不想nazi这里 不过这里真的打不动啊 D:

图没啥毛病._.
Saturio
chocomint
nice xD
Saturio

Cookiezi wrote:

nice xD
THS!
Roddie
Hi, Chris 8-)

I here to do my part of the bargain.

Blue: Suggestions.
Violet: I really think you should fix this in my opinion.
Red: Must be fixed.

Normal:

00:48:848 (3)-Add a finish on the end of that slider.
01:21:698 to 01:24:098-Add a break here. Your Hard has one, why not Normal?

Hard:

Nothing I can find.

ignore's Hard:

00:08:948(3)- The hit burst from the spinner is blocking the view of that slider. ._. Move that slider somewhere else.


Taiko:

Skipping.

Sharon's:

I suppose its okay.

I didn't think I mod this properly...

Just take my star.
Topic Starter
wmfchris
ok fixed~
xierbaliti
Crazy._.
orioncomet
i'm just a random preson looking at bubbled map

[ignore's Hard]
- imo, pretty low AR for high bpm and too hard for a 'hard' and note look a bit overlapped, change this diff to Insane and AR+1?

[Sharon's]
- look really impposible to FC to me, 200bpm with those streams. and I am not good at streams so dont mind me.

Normal and Hard look ok
Topic Starter
wmfchris
ok edited~

(ign ask me to change to "insane" before but I've forgotten it orz)
kiddly
:x
crazy guy
orioncomet
Rebubbled

Ok then I will let BAT handle the hardest diff.
Doomsday
Just thought I would post this here:

I mapped a ridiculously hard map for this song about 6 months ago for fun. I wasn't gonna upload it, but I might as well post it here~
I've changed the timing/Background/etc so it can be used in this map.

Good Luck

Download: Mutsuhiko Izumi - Snow Goose (wmfchris) [Doomsday's Extreme].osu

(Don't add the difficulty in)
Topic Starter
wmfchris
yeah updated the post... and I found my bubble poped D:
Starrodkirby86
This is going to be a tough situation ... :S

First, before we go into any of this muck, I gotta say how fun this map was. The difficulty in [Normal] and [Hard] were delightfully consistent. I was concerned originally due to the star rating, but of course those concerns have been well solved. Did like how the difficulty heightens upon the Kiai portion. It also does so without getting too obnoxious. [ignore's Insane] was also fun, and interesting to see how the 1/1s went. It naturally came on to me. [Sharon's] is a huge monster, and aside from that 1/4 stream lasting for ten seconds, I loved every bit of it. xD

Now comes what I regret telling ~w~. You know how ignore's was originally a Hard, right? The fact that it's updated to an Insane means that there's three Insane difficulties, so uh...I guess one of them has to be removed. >_< I'm not sure which one, as I liked them all (Well, I couldn't play [Taiko] xD). [ignore's Insane] proves to be a buffer between [Hard] and [Sharon's], so I don't think it would be a good idea removing that...

But alas, I'm unsure. :S On the bright side, you can always move any removed difficulty into that beloved EXTRAS section in your Beatmap Description.

Also, I wasn't able to get through that 200-BPM stream in Sharon's difficulty, the one starting at 00:56:498 (1) - and ending at 01:12:098 (1) - . xD Perhaps this should be a call to train on my finger speed for my left hand (It's the weaker hand :c), but that'll cost a lot of keyboards. :P I'm not quite sure what you can do there either considering the extreme few amounts of people that can get through such a stream (They need to be able to Z/X or mouse click at a rate of 200BPM). However, since Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu got ranked and it's at a rate of 240BPM, then that does mean there should be a reasonable amount of people able to do this.

Sorry. Best of luck on what decision you have to do here. I wish I can help more.
Topic Starter
wmfchris
Now comes what I regret telling ~w~. You know how ignore's was originally a Hard, right? The fact that it's updated to an Insane means that there's three Insane difficulties, so uh...I guess one of them has to be removed. >_< I'm not sure which one, as I liked them all (Well, I couldn't play [Taiko] xD). [ignore's Insane] proves to be a buffer between [Hard] and [Sharon's], so I don't think it would be a good idea removing that...
Thanks for checking :D

But I'm sure that 2I+Taiko I is rankable :D~~~~

First, before we go into any of this muck, I gotta say how fun this map was. The difficulty in [Normal] and [Hard] were delightfully consistent. I was concerned originally due to the star rating, but of course those concerns have been well solved. Did like how the difficulty heightens upon the Kiai portion. It also does so without getting too obnoxious. [ignore's Insane] was also fun, and interesting to see how the 1/1s went. It naturally came on to me. [Sharon's] is a huge monster, and aside from that 1/4 stream lasting for ten seconds, I loved every bit of it. xD
Thanks XD

Also, I wasn't able to get through that 200-BPM stream in Sharon's difficulty, the one starting at 00:56:498 (1) - and ending at 01:12:098 (1) - . xD Perhaps this should be a call to train on my finger speed for my left hand (It's the weaker hand :c), but that'll cost a lot of keyboards. I'm not quite sure what you can do there either considering the extreme few amounts of people that can get through such a stream (They need to be able to Z/X or mouse click at a rate of 200BPM). However, since Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu got ranked and it's at a rate of 240BPM, then that does mean there should be a reasonable amount of people able to do this.
I'm not sure about it too... [Sharon's] in taiko mode I get ~5 miss in the streams, but Saturio and Cookiezi managed to beat them lol
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