Halozy - Snow Changes to a Beat Again [CatchTheBeat] · forum

BoberOfDarkness

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2015-12-07T12:26:51+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 13 marca 2018 at 21:08:48

Artist: Halozy
Title: Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Tags: c83 melody sumijun JBHyperion すみじゅん Jusenkyo
BPM: 131
Filesize: 3320kb
Play Time: 00:52
Difficulties Available:

Blizzard (4,5 stars, 229 notes)
Hyperion's Hail (3,53 stars, 193 notes)
Jusenkyo's Frost (1,08 stars, 71 notes)
Sleet (1,83 stars, 110 notes)
Snowfall (2,6 stars, 159 notes)

Download: Halozy - Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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let's get it ranked this year ok (:

Thanks to all people who contribute to the map, we are making ~~ctb~~ osu!catch great again(?)!

Cup /

Snowflake by Jusenkyo

Salad /

Frost by me

Platter /

Snowfall by me

Rain /

Hail by JBHyperion

Overdose /

Blizzard by me

Total of 28 mods and 1 kudosu star was absorbed by that map ;w;
Total of 40 kudosu was obtained by 25 various modders!

Credits

murutattack - double mod and star
lulu lemon - mod
Zoe - mod
Professor Gila - mod
Lost - mod
koliron - mod
Chara - mod
Arthas - mod
newtoniorock8 - mod
Dyl-Byl - mod
RoseusJaeger - mod
tsuneko - mod
Absolute Zero - mod
Benny- - 2 mods > bubble (2k18)
-Sh1n1- - mod > check > bubble (2k17)
- Magic Bomb - - ~~pop and shit overally #tragic~~ 2 mods ^^
Xinely - mod and stuff
rew0825 - mod
Setomi - mod
Negri_sk - mod
Nelly - mod
Hareimu - mod
Sanyi - mod
Spectator - mod
Sorcerer - mod and <3

Last edited by BoberOfDarkness 2018-03-13T20:54:21+00:00, edited 54 times in total.

Moeruattack

763 posts

Joined June 2014

Moeruattack 2015-12-15T20:56:15+00:00

#Modreqs from JBBobby :p

Since there are overdose map, I try play a lot before modding, maybe kinda weak about modding overdose ><

General

Artist : すみじゅん
Romanized Artist : Halozy
Title Song : Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Tags - Add c83 melody sumijun JBHyperion in tags

Also, I think switch the diff name since JBHyperion stated his diff name as Rain diff, Frost and Snowfall can renamed as Salad and Platter. Blizzard can keep.
Widescreen can turn off on Frost/Snowfall.

Frost (Salad)

I think its nice Salad, there`s some of the sliders kinda disoriented in the way it plays.
Why not CS 3? Kinda imbalanced though.

00:27:933 (3,1) - This one is very weird and disoriented, I suggest try this out

00:31:025 (2) - A bit left so this (2) formed a > shaped

00:32:514 (1) - Shaped this (1) end to nearer (2) like this

00:38:697 (4) - Move a bit to x:236
00:44:422 (2) - I just wondering, why not using (1) slider instead, then Flip Horizontaly.

Snowfall (Platter)

I think JB mention about 1/4 H-Dash which is not Rankable, I suggest don`t use this kind of pattern, especially Platter diff. Rain or Overdose is fine for 1/4 dash.

I highlighted the spot you might wanted to check out:
00:16:483 (1,2,3,4) - Remove H-Dash catch, try move all of this to x:160
00:16:941 - Move to middle point x:256 if you apply ^ mod.
00:24:727 (5) - Try move this to x:132, cause H-Dash not for 1/4.
00:25:529 (2) - Move the (2) to x:340.
00:26:445 (5) - Remove this note.
00:27:361 - ^
00:28:277 (4,5,6) - Try this :

00:29:193 (2) - If you like to keep the sound base, you can just move near to the (1,3), if not, remove the notes.
00:30:109 (6,7) - Maybe try move the (6) to x:96 while (7) move to x:428.
00:31:139 (2) - Move to x:224 instead.
00:32:857 (2)
00:34:346 (1) - I don`t see why you length the sound base to 00:34:689, 00:34:575 seems fine and fits the song.
00:40:529 (4) - Use note instead of Slider.
00:45:223 (5) - Remove this note, it doesn`t respect the sound base at all.
00:45:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - You can try this design, following with your map design

JBHyperion Rain

Unique and nice Rain c:

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - Try adding a bit more distance since Platter did the same pattern.
00:19:231 (1) - This is easy to miss one, in terms of small droplets. I suggest move the 00:19:173 (8) to x:224 while 00:19:231 (1) move to x:64 after flip horizontally, see how it flows.
00:26:330 (5) - Move a bit right to x:212
00:39:269 (6) - move to x:8, kinda high distance in this part
00:48:544 (1) - Somehow this part kinda miss a bit frequently, but maybe just a heads-up :p

Blizzard (Overdose)

I terrible at modding Overdose, but this is just my opinion ><
00:33:888 (3,4) - I think (2) was fine though, but (3) and (4) pattern are very easy to miss. Turn this to this

00:37:552 (1) - You should make this a H-Dash notes.
00:40:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Somehow this stream pattern looks random, maybe trying to do ( and ( . Try move all of this to x:132, then try do a ( shape, I using Distance 1.5x on this pattern :

00:47:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - Very wierd Stream, try do ( shaped instead. Or keep.
00:47:514 (4,5) - I`m not really fan of this pattern but this is closest as Deluge Diff H-Dash. Nerf?

I think I like how Overdose Flow was, only something bother that might be a little close to Deluge difff, but this is only opinion :p

PM me if wan remod :p
Gud luck for ranking o/

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-15T21:30:17+00:00

murutattack wrote:
#Modreqs from JBBobby :p

General
Artist : すみじゅん
Romanized Artist : Halozy
Title Song : Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Metadata is taken from the ranked Std set by Lasse - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/352351
Tags - Add c83 melody sumijun JBHyperion in tags yes pls add me Bober kthx

Also, I think switch the diff name since JBHyperion stated his diff name as Rain diff, Frost and Snowfall can renamed as Salad and Platter. Blizzard can keep. Bober, thoughts?

JBHyperion Rain
Unique and nice Rain c:

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - Try adding a bit more distance since Platter did the same pattern. Increased a little, no dash. This was mapped before the Platter lol
00:19:231 (1) - This is easy to miss one, in terms of small droplets. I suggest move the 00:19:173 (8) to x:224 while 00:19:231 (1) move to x:64 after flip horizontally, see how it flows. I really like this little kick on the slider body, but I'll consider changing if more people complain
00:26:330 (5) - Move a bit right to x:212 Yeah this was a little excessive
00:39:269 (6) - move to x:8, kinda high distance in this part Ooh, didn't realise this was so close to the edge, fixed
00:48:544 (1) - Somehow this part kinda miss a bit frequently, but maybe just a heads-up :p Hyper was maybe a bit much here, reduced it to a normal jump instead

PM me if wan remod :p
Gud luck for ranking o/

Thanks for the mod!

@ Bober - don't forget to set Preview Point! I think 00:19:689 sounds good but it's your call

Rain

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 19689
Countdown: 0
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StackLeniency: 0.7
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TitleUnicode:Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Artist:Halozy
ArtistUnicode:Halozy
Creator:BoberOfDarkness
Version:Hyperion's Freeze Rain
Source:
Tags:
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BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2015-12-15T22:08:35+00:00

murutattack wrote:
#Modreqs from JBBobby :p

Since there are overdose map, I try play a lot before modding, maybe kinda weak about modding overdose ><

General
Artist : すみじゅん
Romanized Artist : Halozy
Title Song : Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Tags - Add c83 melody sumijun JBHyperion in tags

Also, I think switch the diff name since JBHyperion stated his diff name as Rain diff, Frost and Snowfall can renamed as Salad and Platter. Blizzard can keep.
Widescreen can turn off on Frost/Snowfall.

Frost (Salad)
I think its nice Salad, there`s some of the sliders kinda disoriented in the way it plays.
Why not CS 3? Kinda imbalanced though.

00:27:933 (3,1) - This one is very weird and disoriented, I suggest try this out sorry I think its fine

00:31:025 (2) - A bit left so this (2) formed a > shaped done
00:32:514 (1) - Shaped this (1) end to nearer (2) like this done
00:38:697 (4) - Move a bit to x:236 done
00:44:422 (2) - I just wondering, why not using (1) slider instead, then Flip Horizontaly. done

Snowfall (Platter)
I think JB mention about 1/4 H-Dash which is not Rankable, I suggest don`t use this kind of pattern, especially Platter diff. Rain or Overdose is fine for 1/4 dash. I dont listen to rumors, so its new to me

I highlighted the spot you might wanted to check out:
00:16:483 (1,2,3,4) - Remove H-Dash catch, try move all of this to x:160 nope sorry
00:16:941 - Move to middle point x:256 if you apply ^ mod. ^
00:24:727 (5) - Try move this to x:132, cause H-Dash not for 1/4. fixed, that was forced
00:25:529 (2) - Move the (2) to x:340. done
00:26:445 (5) - Remove this note. no
00:27:361 - ^ no
00:28:277 (4,5,6) - Try this done
00:29:193 (2) - If you like to keep the sound base, you can just move near to the (1,3), if not, remove the notes. I like how it works now
00:30:109 (6,7) - Maybe try move the (6) to x:96 while (7) move to x:428. sorry, no
00:31:139 (2) - Move to x:224 instead. sorry, no
00:32:857 (2)
00:34:346 (1) - I don`t see why you length the sound base to 00:34:689, 00:34:575 seems fine and fits the song. sorry I dont think so
00:40:529 (4) - Use note instead of Slider. k
00:45:223 (5) - Remove this note, it doesn`t respect the sound base at all. k
00:45:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - You can try this design, following with your map design sorry I will keep mine

JBHyperion Rain
Unique and nice Rain c:

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - Try adding a bit more distance since Platter did the same pattern.
00:19:231 (1) - This is easy to miss one, in terms of small droplets. I suggest move the 00:19:173 (8) to x:224 while 00:19:231 (1) move to x:64 after flip horizontally, see how it flows.
00:26:330 (5) - Move a bit right to x:212
00:39:269 (6) - move to x:8, kinda high distance in this part
00:48:544 (1) - Somehow this part kinda miss a bit frequently, but maybe just a heads-up :p

[/box]

PM me if wan remod :p
Gud luck for ranking o/

Thanks a lot!

Last edited by BoberOfDarkness 2015-12-16T09:35:54+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

LigerZero

2,429 posts

Joined August 2013

LigerZero 2015-12-16T01:18:51+00:00

good luck your map....... i'm waiting your map ranked....

-rage

425 posts

Joined August 2013

-rage 2015-12-16T05:17:44+00:00

greetings from my queue!

[Frost]
This diff uses a lot of Dashes for a Salad diff, in my opinion i would suggest to reduce some distances on some jumps and not make the Dash so common throughout this diff.

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - i would have those 3 notes equally spaced out, it looks/ feels better that way.
00:05:491 (2,3) - reduce distance, the jumps is way too far.
00:21:521 (1,2) - make those 2 further apart, so they don't feel so stacked up together.
00:22:437 (4) - i've been seeing these sliders all accross this diff, to be honest, a simple curve would look better so that the droplets aren't so scattered.
00:48:544 (1) - slider is way too short and doesn't really belong there.

[Snowfall]

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - the beginning is boring a little bit, maybe make those more spaced out to start off strong and look interesting.
00:07:323 (2,3) - make this into a hyperdash? or reduce distance. i feel like this jump is too far for not being a hyperdash,
00:46:598 (6) - i would make this curve face to the other side instead since there's a big jump after that and it's a little hard to hit.
00:49:002 (1,2,3,4) - reduce distance just a tiny bit?

[Freeze Rain]

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - another slight boring beginning.
00:45:338 (1,2,1,2) - this part plays so weird, change up those sliders so the jumps feel better instead of having to zigzag it awkwardly
00:51:750 - are those 3 last inherited timing points necessary? i feel like they would'nt make a difference if they weren't there.

that's all for me, good luck!

Zoe

149 posts

Joined June 2011

Zoe 2015-12-16T05:26:45+00:00

[Hyperion's Freeze Rain]

00:48:429 (7,8) - Could try to fix this bit up, making it more smooth/curved onto 00:48:544 (1) - like this for example. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just not a big fan of it >.<

[Blizzard]

00:17:857 (1,1,1) - I'd make these curved streams, there is already plenty of standing streams throughout the map and I think these would feel much nicer if they were curved; { ) ( ( or ) S ( } for example (chronologically).
00:41:330 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel like it fits as a 1/8 stream here. Try using 4 notes again here?

It's a really nice mapset so far, so there's not much that I can comment on. Goodluck with ranking (,, ･∀･)ﾉ゛

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-16T05:59:06+00:00

klonoa wrote:
greetings from my queue!

[Freeze Rain]
00:01:369 (1,2,3) - another slight boring beginning. I get your point, but the music's not really doing much here, anything more than this feels really forced imo
00:45:338 (1,2,1,2) - this part plays so weird, change up those sliders so the jumps feel better instead of having to zigzag it awkwardly I don't find this weird at all, wiggles and zig-zags are commonly used patterns in harder diffs and this provides some nice variety to avoid the 1/4 slider jump spam which is kinda boring to play and will also totally tank the star rating
00:51:750 - are those 3 last inherited timing points necessary? i feel like they would'nt make a difference if they weren't there. They're supposed to increase the hitsound volume for bananas caught during the spinner - there's an increase in volume in the music, so I felt an increase in the hs volume would be appropriate too, but it wasn't really noticeable so I increased the volume on each
that's all for me, good luck!

Zoe wrote:
[Hyperion's Freeze Rain]
00:48:429 (7,8) - Could try to fix this bit up, making it more smooth/curved onto 00:48:544 (1) - like this for example. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just not a big fan of it >.< Sure, gave it a try

It's a really nice mapset so far, so there's not much that I can comment on. Goodluck with ranking (,, ･∀･)ﾉ゛

Thanks for the mods guys!

Rain

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BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2015-12-16T12:23:38+00:00

murutattack wrote:
#Modreqs from JBBobby :p

Since there are overdose map, I try play a lot before modding, maybe kinda weak about modding overdose ><

Blizzard (Overdose)
I terrible at modding Overdose, but this is just my opinion ><
00:33:888 (3,4) - I think (2) was fine though, but (3) and (4) pattern are very easy to miss. Turn this to this
00:37:552 (1) - You should make this a H-Dash notes.
00:40:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Somehow this stream pattern looks random, maybe trying to do ( and ( . Try move all of this to x:132, then try do a ( shape, I using Distance 1.5x on this pattern :
00:47:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - Very wierd Stream, try do nope, no shaped streams in my map( shaped instead. Or keep.
00:47:514 (4,5) - I`m not really fan of this pattern but this is closest as Deluge Diff H-Dash. Nerf? its just dash lol

I think I like how Overdose Flow was, only something bother that might be a little close to Deluge difff, but this is only opinion :pwell you should play pupa

PM me if wan remod :p
Gud luck for ranking o/

Zoe wrote:
[Blizzard]
00:17:857 (1,1,1) - I'd make these curved streams, there is already plenty of standing streams throughout the map and I think these would feel much nicer if they were curved; { ) ( ( or ) S ( } for example (chronologically). nice spot, done
00:41:330 (1,2,3,4,5) - Doesn't feel like it fits as a 1/8 stream here. Try using 4 notes again here? I think its fine

klonoa wrote:
greetings from my queue!

[Frost]
This diff uses a lot of Dashes for a Salad diff, in my opinion i would suggest to reduce some distances on some jumps and not make the Dash so common throughout this diff.
00:01:369 (1,2,3) - i would have those 3 notes equally spaced out, it looks/ feels better that way. equally spaced doesnt looks good
00:05:491 (2,3) - reduce distance, the jumps is way too far. fixed
00:21:521 (1,2) - make those 2 further apart, so they don't feel so stacked up together. they should be a bit stacked since its anti flow pattern
00:22:437 (4) - i've been seeing these sliders all accross this diff, to be honest, a simple curve would look better so that the droplets aren't so scattered. fixed
00:48:544 (1) - slider is way too short and doesn't really belong there. you wrong, its whole 1/1 on low bpm
[Snowfall]
00:01:369 (1,2,3) - the beginning is boring a little bit, maybe make those more spaced out to start off strong and look interesting. fixed
00:07:323 (2,3) - make this into a hyperdash? or reduce distance. i feel like this jump is too far for not being a hyperdash, hyperd
00:46:598 (6) - i would make this curve face to the other side instead since there's a big jump after that and it's a little hard to hit. I didnt get it
00:49:002 (1,2,3,4) - reduce distance just a tiny bit? I will keep it soz

Thanks for modderinos!

Bober, thoughts?

totally nope, stupido idea, no reason to change it, JBH use freezing rain so its not rain loeleleol

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2015-12-16T12:24:06+00:00

LigerZero wrote:
good luck your map....... i'm waiting your map ranked....

Thanks a lot <3

Professor Gila

644 posts

Joined December 2014

Professor Gila 2015-12-16T13:05:23+00:00

._.

Mod for Blizzard diff only

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - make their distance further so each of them triggers a hyper

00:06:178 (6) - drag this to the right please

00:06:292 (7) - ctrl + g this and drag this further to the left

00:06:636 (8) - drag this to the right and ctrl + g this

00:09:613 (3,4,5) - drag them to the left

00:12:132 (4) - drag this to the left so 00:11:788 (3) will trigger a hyper

00:14:193 (1,3) - drag them to the left to trigger hypers

00:24:269 (1) - drag this to the right please

00:24:727 (3) - ctrl + g this

00:25:185 (1,3) - make their distance further

00:28:277 (5) - drag this to the right

00:29:192 (2) - drag this to the left

00:31:827 (4,5) - drag these to the left?

00:36:865 (5,6) - noooooooooo, not this

. ctrl + g them!

00:44:422 (1) - ctrl + h this please

00:44:651 (2) - drag this to the left until it triggers hyper

00:49:003 (3,4,5) - make their distance further so they will trigger hyper

That's all i can mod dem the bg makes me can't see well the fruits falling when testing

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2015-12-16T19:42:09+00:00

lidahapi wrote:
._.

Mod for Blizzard diff only
00:01:369 (1,2,3) - make their distance further so each of them triggers a hyper no reason to hyper those

00:06:178 (6) - drag this to the right please k

00:06:292 (7) - ctrl + g this and drag this further to the left no

00:06:636 (8) - drag this to the right and ctrl + g this no

00:09:613 (3,4,5) - drag them to the left no

00:12:132 (4) - drag this to the left so 00:11:788 (3) will trigger a hyper 00:12:132 (4) -

00:14:193 (1,3) - drag them to the left to trigger hypers 00:12:132 (4) -

00:24:269 (1) - drag this to the right please why?

00:24:727 (3) - ctrl + g this ^

00:25:185 (1,3) - make their distance further their are fine

00:28:277 (5) - drag this to the right no

00:29:192 (2) - drag this to the left no

00:31:827 (4,5) - drag these to the left? no

00:36:865 (5,6) - noooooooooo, not this . ctrl + g them! no

00:44:422 (1) - ctrl + h this please theres too much hypers here

00:44:651 (2) - drag this to the left until it triggers hyper ^

00:49:003 (3,4,5) - make their distance further so they will trigger hyper no reason to hyper those

That's all i can mod dem the bg makes me can't see well the fruits falling when testing

2015-12-15 16:24 lidahapi: uh which diff you want to be modded?
2015-12-15 16:24 BoberOfDarkness: all if you can
2015-12-15 16:24 lidahapi: i see
2015-12-15 16:24 BoberOfDarkness: or just the hardest

Yea, I expected that you will make lazy mod for just Blizzard

Thanks for mod!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-16T20:32:02+00:00

BoberOfDarkness wrote:
Yea, I expected that you will make lazy mod for just Blizzard

CtB is nation of lazy modders lol ^_^

Professor Gila

644 posts

Joined December 2014

Professor Gila 2015-12-17T11:44:29+00:00

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Lost

72 posts

Joined May 2014

Lost 2015-12-17T16:40:01+00:00

Mod on Salad - Rain

[Frost]

00:12:361 (1) - This note can be hit with the edge of the plate w/o dashing, pretty sure you intend to have this as a Dash. Increasing the distance for jumps to over 3.0 would make the map easier to read (player won't get confused if he has to dash or not)
00:13:506 (4) - Move to x:340 makes the stream curve a little nicer imo
00:17:628 (3) - Same as 00:12:361 (1) ^
00:26:101 (3,1) - Jump between these 2 would fit the song quite nicely
00:30:109 (3) - Currently looks quite weird, i'd suggest moving it to x:332
00:33:659 (1,2) - Making this a stream by adding note on blue tick between them fits quite well
00:34:117 (2,1) - Jumps between these 2 in case you put a jump at 00:26:101 for consistency, also fits well.
00:36:178 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Increase distance same issue as 00:12:361 (1) ^
00:38:697 (4) - ^ Its currently possible to reach (4) w/o dashing but you won't reach (1) by a few pixels.
00:17:857 (1) - 00:48:544 (1) - These two spinners don't follow the rule that will likely pass that requires 1/1 distance between notes and spinners on Cup/Salad difficulties.
The Salad is nice to play

[Snowfall]

I think the complexity of patterns in this difficulty is very high if you compare it to the Rain, I suggest lowering the complexity while keeping most of the hypers so the spread stays similar.
00:17:399 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest making the spacing a little lower and shaping it more like the the stream at 00:16:483 (1,2,3,4) - I think this makes sense since the stream used at 00:16:483 closely resembles the streams before that.
00:17:857 (1) - Spinner don't follow the rule that will likely pass, this rule requires 1/2 distance between note and spinner on Platter to Overdose.
00:22:437 (3,4,5) - I suggest using the slider used at 00:20:605 (3) - again, the slider looks much better and the sound is the same.
00:24:498 (4) - 00:32:514 (1) - The part between these 2 points feels too complicated to me for a platter, the amount of direction changes and closely clustered sliders makes this part unenjoyable compared to the rest of this difficulty in my opinion. I suggest making this part more simple and letting the kiai actually be the hard part of the map.
The kiai is a lot of fun to play

00:46:254 (5,6,7) - I suggest changing this to a shape like this (Sliderball is on the start of 5) It flows a lot more nicely than the current pattern.

This platter is hard but its nice, the hypers don't feel randomly placed which i appreciate a lot

[Freeze Rain]

~~I think frozen Rain is called Hail but ok JBH i'll let it slide~~

00:45:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - You should consider making this part a little easier, its much harder than the rest of the map currently, all back to back.
This diff flows so well its amazing

~~JBH stop mapping so well so i can actually mod ur maps pls~~

The diffs i can play are all quite fun, nice mapset!

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2015-12-17T23:36:14+00:00

Lost wrote:
Mod on Salad - Rain

[Frost]
00:30:109 (3) - Currently looks quite weird, i'd suggest moving it to x:332 it was for purpose
00:17:857 (1) - 00:48:544 (1) - These two spinners don't follow the rule that will likely pass that requires 1/1 distance between notes and spinners on Cup/Salad difficulties. its not rule.
The Salad is nice to play

[Snowfall]

I think the complexity of patterns in this difficulty is very high if you compare it to the Rain, I suggest lowering the complexity while keeping most of the hypers so the spread stays similar.
00:17:399 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest making the spacing a little lower and shaping it more like the the stream at 00:16:483 (1,2,3,4) - I think this makes sense since the stream used at 00:16:483 closely resembles the streams before that. lowered DS
00:17:857 (1) - Spinner don't follow the rule that will likely pass, this rule requires 1/2 distance between note and spinner on Platter to Overdose. its not rule.
00:22:437 (3,4,5) - I suggest using the slider used at 00:20:605 (3) - again, the slider looks much better and the sound is the same. I will keep mine, sorry
00:24:498 (4) - 00:32:514 (1) - The part between these 2 points feels too complicated to me for a platter, the amount of direction changes and closely clustered sliders makes this part unenjoyable compared to the rest of this difficulty in my opinion. I suggest making this part more simple and letting the kiai actually be the hard part of the map. fixed some snaps
The kiai is a lot of fun to play
00:46:254 (5,6,7) - I suggest changing this to a shape like this (Sliderball is on the start of 5) It flows a lot more nicely than the current pattern. nice spot! fixed

This platter is hard but its nice, the hypers don't feel randomly placed which i appreciate a lot thanks <3

The diffs i can play are all quite fun, nice mapset!

Thanks a lot mate

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-18T00:39:55+00:00

Lost wrote:
[Freeze Rain]

~~I think frozen Rain is called Hail but ok JBH i'll let it slide~~ aight I'll call it Hail, alliteration has a nice ring to it anyway so why not
00:45:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - You should consider making this part a little easier, its much harder than the rest of the map currently, all back to back. Whilst I really like this pattern, I do agree the difficulty spike is probably a little excessive. For now I Crtl+G'ed both of 00:45:567 (2,2) to remove the wiggles and build intensity into this pattern a little more gradually, so it should be less of a smack in the face now (^:
This diff flows so well its amazing
~~JBH stop mapping so well so i can actually mod ur maps pls~~ ~~kek I will shitmap just for you~~

Thanks for the mod!

@Bober - Don't forget to add Jusenkyo to tags now you have the Cup GD.

Hail

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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

SYAHME 2015-12-18T23:33:10+00:00

Blizzard, you got my heart <3.

koliron

791 posts

Joined July 2014

koliron 2015-12-19T06:45:21+00:00

General

Check AiMod, error in the unicode of the Rain, and you missed "すみじゅん" in artist of the Overdose, anyway, why in Japanese? Halozy's songs have his name in English, at least in my search.
Huh, these Combocolours are boring, you can use red to highlight the dress and the umbrella of the girl, also the castle in the background!
I suggest you add "Moose" "Trees" "Castle" "Winter" in Tags, just are words They are just words that people can recognize the map, mostly with the background.

Someday i will do irc for the Cup when Jusenkyo can.

Frost

The flow in your diffs are fine, but to be honest have a lot of times that do not fit with the song, prioritize the gameplay sometimes is fine, but this is too much, basically my suggestions (at least the ones I have) are of distances and motions, you can fit the map with the song and also have a good gameplay, should not be only one!
00:05:033 (1,2,3) - Ahhhh, if you listen in x25% you can hear that these sounds are the same, some more distance to (3) would be fine to make this section more fun, buuut you add a loot of more distance, also a hard dash, is exagerated, please reduce more distance to the point of remove the dash, for example (3) x 154.
I know that this part of the song is a bit relax yet, but you cand add more movement 00:05:949 (3) - here? because the sounds in 00:06:292 - and 00:06:636 - definitely deserves more distance, as you did in 00:07:781 (5) - !
00:06:865 (1,2,3,4) - Huh, this pattern not fit with the song, come on, there are a lot of options to make nice patterns and fit, for example this, because the sounds in 00:07:094 (2,4) - have a little less volume than 00:06:865 (1,3) - .
00:09:613 (3) - 00:11:445 (3) - Same cases as above, you should make these sliders more horizontal.
00:10:529 (1,2) - Missing whistle in the tail of these, to be consistent with 00:08:697 (1,2) - 00:07:094 (2,4) - 00:05:033 (1,2) - feels weeeeird without.
Aaaand i see that all of these patterns have saaaame movement, the only difference is a bit of distance, you cant use other? For example this!
00:13:048 (2,3,4,5,6) - The density of notes here is too high for a Salad, come on 00:13:391 (3) - this sound is almost unlistenable, to be the lowest difficulty of this map you should use a simple rhythm, at least remove this note, aand if is possible i suggest you remove 00:13:506 (3) - and then add reverse in 00:13:048 (2) - , is fun and fit perfect (: Result
00:17:285 - Not much to explian, you should add note here to be consistent with 00:15:109 (2,3,4,5,6) - .
00:19:689 (1,2,3) - Ahhh, same distances? Why? Definitely the sound in 00:20:605 - deserves more distance, and tbh, this pattern is too normal and a bit boring, you can ~~defeat~~ sovle this with 00:20:376 (2) - in x 208 or a bit less, to make nice dash + more fun pattern.
00:20:605 (3) - 00:22:437 (4) - Without movement? Nooo, just make this more horizonal, without weird sliders.
00:26:101 (3,1) - Dash here fit perfect for the finsh sound in the song.
00:27:933 (3) - Lol, you are funny Bober, but these points of this slider are unnecesary, please do normal slider.
00:28:849 (1) - Same case, and aahhh, note 00:29:193 - here is not the best, 00:29:307 - but this song deserves a note! Please do this section same as 00:25:185 (1,2) - , i know that this song is too repetitive... Mhh, other option is this (please not these positions).
00:29:765 (7,8,9) - Again without movement? Is a salad, but sounds like 00:30:109 - and 00:30:223 - deserves a convincing distance.
00:34:346 (1) - Woo, i cant hear sound 00:34:460 - here, even hyperion not use this note in his Rain, why note just normal slider here? Is a salad!
00:34:346 (1,2) - 1/4 dash is not acceptable in salad, but this distance is almost null, not dash, but please add some distance.
00:36:636 (3,1) - Dash here? Nooo, defintely the sound in 00:36:865 - not deserves this distance, ingame is impossible to listen!
00:38:468 (3,4,1) - Ahh, same case here, the dash should be to (1), not to (4), these are 1/2 so you can.
00:39:384 (1) - Why nc here? This is not a new stanza, and to be consistent with these sounds, like 00:35:720 (4) - and 00:37:552 (4) - .
00:41:674 (1,2,3) - Huh, this part is hard to map because deserves dash but 4 dash is row is not acceptable, ahhh, to be honest i suggest you remove these hdash here and use high distances but without, like this.
00:48:544 (1) - Why not replace this spinner with a slider and 2 notes 00:49:460 - 00:49:918 - ? And then use spinner 00:50:376 - here, is more recommendable in my opinion.
Ahhh, CS 3.3 and AR 6.8 in 131 of bpm is not much for a Salad? Yeah in my opinion is unneceary, reduce at least the CS to 3, also to be consistent with platter and rain, 3, 3.5, 4.

Snowfall

00:05:949 (3) - Really you can hear a sound with the potential to hdash? is 100% the same as 00:05:033 (1,2) - , if you want add hdash around here, you can to 00:06:865 (1) - to highlight the new stanza, obviously same with 00:07:781 (3) - , and i see that you add hdash to 00:08:697 (1) - , and then noy to 00:09:613 (3) - , you need be consistent with these hdash, with accept or not the above suggestion.
00:13:277 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I see that you add some more movement to 00:13:620 (6) - and its fine because have a bit more "strong" sound, I suggest you do the same with 00:13:964 (9) -, is the same sound.
00:15:452 (4) - 00:15:796 (3) - 00:17:628 (3) - Aaaand the same to those.
00:16:369 (4,1) - Ahhh, 1/4 hdash? its 131 of bpm so for me is too strong! for me 100bpm should be the maximum tolerated, please remove this, also is not the best pleace for hdash, this sound is the same as the others like 00:16:025 (1) - 00:16:941 (1) - 00:17:399 (1) - and a lot of 1/4 hdash to be consistent around here definitely is not acceptable.
00:20:605 (3) - I insist that these sliders are strange and not properly fulfill their duty with the sound in 00:20:949 - .
00:21:521 (1,2) - Maybe hdash here be fine, but is necessary this hiiigh distance? Is a platter, platter players are not accustomed for high distances in hyper (and in theory, to any).
00:24:498 (4,5,1,2,3) - Why low distance around here? You should add more, its boring and too random.
00:26:445 (5,1) - 00:27:017 (1,2) - More 1/4 hdash, and if you disagree the last should be to 00:27:475 (3) - , not to (2), that is almost unlistenable.
00:29:193 (2,3,4,5) - You cant add distance here? is boring in game for me, for example a bit to 00:29:307 (3) - and to 00:29:765 (5) - .
00:29:765 (5,6) - 00:30:681 (1,2) - 00:32:514 (1,2) - 00:34:231 (10,1) - Mooore (maybe the last is acceptable to highlight the beginning of the Kiai).
00:41:445 (4,1) - Same as Salad, is the best time to add hdash!
00:45:338 (1,2,3,4) - I know that you can do this section more beautiful, for example with this, these sounmds increace each a note, so fit perfect with the song, and is fun!
00:49:002 (1,2,3,4) - Again but upside, these sounds REDUCE each a 1/1, for this reason 00:49:919 (3) - should be in x 208 to maintain correct constancy.

Freeze Rain

00:05:949 (3) - 00:07:781 (3) - Same question as i did to Bober, i understand if you add a bit more distance to vary, but this distance is not much? what I mean is that in my opinion shouldn't become not-dash to dash, or dash to hdash, because you'd be differentiating this sound to the others, and really at least for me, I cant hear any difference.
00:09:613 (3,4) - You added hdash to (4) but the sound in 00:09:956 - definitely deserves more distance, yeah i know that with my suggestion is 1/4 hdash, as you prefer, in my opinion the best option is just remove the hdash of here and replace 00:09:842 (4) - with 2 circles, and easy-dash between these, 00:11:445 (3,4) - Same case here.
00:15:796 (6,1) - You should add hdash to (1) to be consistent with 00:12:361 (1) - 00:14:193 (1) - 00:10:529 (1) - ,etc. and with 00:16:483 (3) - 00:16:941 (1) - 00:17:285 (2) - , saaaame sounds.
00:19:231 (1) - Ahhh, this sound deserves finish? Is the sound that is rising to break into 00:19:689 - , and then here finish is fine, as you did.
00:26:101 (4,5) - Ahhh, its a Rain, the sound should not be so strong for a hdash, but here? I only can hear strong sound 00:26:445 - here, this would imply a circle in x 344 (or a bit less if you prefer) and other and other in 172, the result is 2 hdash in row, but I think it's fun and acceptable in a Rain, what do you think?
00:40:300 (3,4) - Huh, same here to (4), but without strong sound, so this time is better without the second hdash (and just in case, until now you following these... "clap" sounds for each hdash, so I think to follow the other sounds to add is not the best option).
Nothing else, niiiiiice Rain JBHdash <3

Blizzard

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - Sounds reduced over time, you should do this pattern as Hyperion, just 00:02:285 (3) - in 288 or a bit more.
00:06:178 (6,7) - HDash until here had normal range, this is end, it has about the same distance but instead of 1/2, is 1/4, please reduce at least to x 212.
00:07:781 (1,2,3) - Hdash here is nice, but only one, you are based on two completely different sounds, the two may deserve this distance, but please only in one, preferably 00:08:124 (2) - to keep the constancy, to try with 00:08:124 (2) - x 348 and then 00:08:124 (2,3) - a bit to the left to not make sooo strong hdash.
00:09:155 (2) - Why whistle in the head? should be clap as the others.
00:09:613 (3,4,5) - You should add hdash here to the contancy with 00:07:781 (1,2,3) , if you accept the previous suggestion, to 00:09:956 (4) - .
00:10:529 (1,2) - Ahhm, again i can hear strong sound in 00:11:445 - , at least do 00:11:216 (2) - more horizontal to highlight this!
00:12:933 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ahhh, in my opinion is too long, you can add normal dash to 00:13:277 (5) - to be more fun, and maintain the constancy with 00:13:620 (1) - 00:14:193 (1) - etc, and same case to 00:13:964 (4) - .
00:17:285 (2) - Missing whistle here? And not in 00:17:399 (3) - .
00:17:857 (1,1,1,7) - Aaand why not whistles? Is a stream but with these feels good!
00:22:208 (2) - Oh bober, this is not necessary, and with this slider you not highlight the sound in 00:22:437 - , I know that you can understand this, please just use circle 00:22:208 - here and if you want hdash to 00:22:437 - .
00:22:666 (3) - Other case here, you add hdash TO this, but the real strong sound is in 00:22:781 - , why not use normal dash to a circle in 00:22:666 - and then hdash or noraml dash to a circle in 00:22:781 - ?
00:22:895 (1) - Remove NC to be consistent with your diffs, and definitely not fit.
00:33:086 (4) - Until here i evaded almost all suggestions of hdash that I could find, you dont really followed the correct sounds, that is, you gave hdash to ALL loud sounds of the song, but here, the sound is not strong, tlease, at least here, refrain of add (and if is possible, also remove this note, i cant hear new sound here).
00:43:506 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is not fun, and you cant follow the song to add these sliders and respectives hdash, not fit with nothing, please, dont hate me, but you need remap this section, the only thing that can fit here is the patron of sliders, but it is extremely boring, please try to vary a little with several circles, which would help to add a better flow to this kiai, for example 00:43:849 - 00:44:765 - 00:45:681 - 00:46:598 - because these sounds are different, so oyu can add hdash TO these, and some other sounds like 00:45:338 - 00:44:422 - for the finish sound (also finish hitsounds here would be nice).

Good luck :b

Last edited by koliron 2015-12-19T23:23:34+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-19T09:56:33+00:00

koliron wrote:

General
Check AiMod, error in the unicode of the Rain, and you missed "すみじゅん" in artist of the Overdose, anyway, why in Japanese? Halozy's songs have his name in English, at least in my search. I don't get a unicode error o_O also yeah please revert the Artist name to "Halozy" and put "すみじゅん" in tags Bober. The romanized is their preferred identification and can be seen as such on all modern ranked maps

Freeze Rain
00:05:949 (3) - 00:07:781 (3) - Same question as i did to Bober, i understand if you add a bit more distance to vary, but this distance is not much? what I mean is that in my opinion shouldn't become not-dash to dash, or dash to hdash, because you'd be differentiating this sound to the others, and really at least for me, I cant hear any difference. To my ears, 00:05:949 (3) etc. are slightly punchier and more prominent sounds, which is why I gave them more spacing
00:09:613 (3,4) - You added hdash to (4) but the sound in 00:09:956 - definitely deserves more distance, yeah i know that with my suggestion is 1/4 hdash, as you prefer, in my opinion the best option is just remove the hdash of here and replace 00:09:842 (4) - with 2 circles, and easy-dash between these, 00:11:445 (3,4) - Same case here. Really want to avoid using 1/4 hdash so early on in the song since it's a huge difficulty spike, so I'll keep the current pattern
00:15:796 (6,1) - You should add hdash to (1) to be consistent with 00:12:361 (1) - 00:14:193 (1) - 00:10:529 (1) - ,etc. and with 00:16:483 (3) - 00:16:941 (1) - 00:17:285 (2) - , saaaame sounds. Done, hopefully it's not too much leading into the 4plet
00:19:231 (1) - Ahhh, this sound deserves finish? Is the sound that is rising to break into 00:19:689 - , and then here finish is fine, as you did. The finish I'm using is quite soft and elongated on it's own, so I think it fits with the rising "whoosh" sound quite nicely
00:26:101 (4,5) - Ahhh, its a Rain, the sound should not be so strong for a hdash, but here? I only can hear strong sound 00:26:445 - here, this would imply a circle in x 344 (or a bit less if you prefer) and other and other in 172, the result is 2 hdash in row, but I think it's fun and acceptable in a Rain, what do you think? Might be acceptable for a particularly hard Rain, but to maintain a good spread here, double 1/4 hdash is probably not a good idea. The current pattern fits the music well enough imo and doesn't force the difficulty excessively
00:40:300 (3,4) - Huh, same here to (4), but without strong sound, so this time is better without the second hdash (and just in case, until now you following these... "clap" sounds for each hdash, so I think to follow the other sounds to add is not the best option). There's a definite synth sound here that I feel is worthy of a jump, and 1/4 hdash followed by regular 1/4 dash is really annoying to play, so I feel this is the best option
Nothing else, niiiiiice Rain JBHdash <3 <3

Thanks for the mod!

Rain/Hail thing

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Bunnrei

1,044 posts

Joined May 2011

Bunnrei 2015-12-21T03:01:07+00:00

[Snowflake]
will assume that this is the Cup
00:17:399 (3) - A bit too far, I think. It does not need dashing to catch, but might still throw some newer players off-guard. Move it closer.

I have some concerns about the slider speeds in the chorus, might be a bit too extreme (by not too much).

[Frost]
00:42:132 (2) - Change to 1/2 slider, then move it closer. Sounds better for me.
00:43:048 (4) - ^

[Snowfall]
With the way the notes are spaced, this feels more like a shortened Rain for me.
00:19:689 (1,2,1,2) - Try reducing spacing.

[Hail]
00:48:544 (1) - Move a bit closer to the previous note.

[Blizzard]
00:09:613 (3,4,5) - The other notes with this rhythm has jumps, why not put a jump here? :>
00:17:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe make this more spacious, for more movement?

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-12-22T11:29:36+00:00

Ster wrote:
[Hail]
00:48:544 (1) - Move a bit closer to the previous note. Reduced distance (again ._.)

Thanks for the mod!

Hail

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Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-01-06T16:09:04+00:00

Update some things~Applied Ster Mod

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Razor Sharp

1,167 posts

Joined October 2013

Razor Sharp 2016-01-15T00:27:52+00:00

Requested ingame

GENERAL

Difficulty Naming: I am not too sure about the current naming. I get confused by it.
Tags: Add "Jusenkyo" to tag!

Blizzard
00:02:743 (1) - Why not move this spinner to the red tick at 00:04:804 - Instead?
00:05:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - These hyper patterns doesent really fit the song at all. They are too strong for the intro atleast. Would suggest either to make them non-hyper with high distance, or low distance weak hypers.
00:06:178 (6,7) - Regardles of what you do with what i mentioned before, this is very uncomfortable. Reason is that the start of this song is simply not fitted for strong hypers.
00:07:781 (1,2,3) - Also this, i would strongly suggest to remove all "hyper streams" like these. Remap them. These increase the difficulty, and we dont want a forced difficulty? Either way, IMO they are not fitting for the song at all.
00:09:956 (4) - Try to move this to x220. It makes the flow better, and also gives a sweet movement to the player.
00:12:361 (1) - Try to curve this instead of a straight one. The song calls for a curved pattern. And it also matches the rest of the song.
00:13:506 (7,1) - It is too early in the build up to have hyper streams tbh. Would preffer if you keep it non hyper until 00:16:025 (1) -
00:16:483 (2) - Try to make this a 100% horizontal slider, as you get that sweet left right movement here. This will add up the challenge, but not increase star rating.
00:16:483 (2,1) - If you did as i mentioned above, move (1) more to the left to maintain the hyper.
00:24:269 (1,2) - I feel like the distance here is a little too big. Try to decrease it with 1 grid or so.
00:36:636 (3,4,5,6) - Flow here is weird. Try to have equal spacing between them. A little bigger too.
00:47:399 (3,4,5,1) - 00:48:028 (8,1,2) - No, just no. This doesent fit at all, and plays out weird. It is a flow breaker for sure. Try to change this into something that flows better.

This was fun to play.

Hyperion's Hail
00:06:636 (5,1) - As i also mentioned in Blizzard, Hypers does not fit the intro of the song at all. Consider removing them and have high distance dashes instead.
00:26:101 (4,5) - Why dont you try a left right high distance dash here? Would fit better in my opinion.
00:48:486 (8,1) - oooo this is a little nasty. Decrease distance here. Would be pain to shitmiss with DT :^)

Clean and nice rain as always JBH.

Snowfall
00:05:491 (2,3) - Im back to again, mention that the hypers dont fit the intro :c Try to use some sweet left right patterns instead to keep it a little challenging.
00:19:689 (1,2) - I feel like these are too strong so early. Try to change the distance to a smaller one.
00:21:521 (1,2) - ^
00:24:498 (4,5) - This is a flowbreaker. Try to not have such a direction change.
00:30:109 (6,7) - This suprised me. Its a unexpected direction change, and you should avoid that for a platter.
00:43:849 (2) - This one also destroys the flow. Try to move it more to the right.

Very interesting difficulty!

Frost
Slider Tick Rate: put it at 1. Salads should not have 2.
00:47:628 (2,3,4) - Nasty direction change here.

Clean and good!

Jusenkyo's Snowflake
Slider Tick Rate: Why 2? Should be 1 for a cup!

Every thing else seems fine!

Good luck!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-01-17T13:31:33+00:00

Razor Sharp wrote:
Requested ingame
GENERAL

Hyperion's Hail

00:06:636 (5,1) - As i also mentioned in Blizzard, Hypers does not fit the intro of the song at all. Consider removing them and have high distance dashes instead. Will wait and see what Bober does with the Overdose, as I actually really want to keep these. They aren't particularly strong hypers, and without them I just feel the first 1/3 of the song is really uninteresting to play ):
00:26:101 (4,5) - Why dont you try a left right high distance dash here? Would fit better in my opinion. Sure, hyper seemed kinda excessive right here anyway
00:48:486 (8,1) - oooo this is a little nasty. Decrease distance here. Would be pain to shitmiss with DT :^) By the time people are done trying to nerf this it will just be a vertical stream ._. I like the current spacing as a fitting climax to the song, plus I am more concerned with how it plays nomod, since that's what the majority of people will play this map with. Besides, it's a short song so no harm in retrying a few times if you really want to DT it (^:
Clean and nice rain as always JBH.

Good luck!

Thanks for the mod!

Related note: It is advised to keep tick rate the same between difficulties, since tick rate is a feature of the rhythm of the song, not the difficulty of the map. If there are beats on every 1/2 as there are throughout this song, then tick rate 2 can be used throughout. I don't think tick rate 2 on the Cup or Salad presents an especially problematic challenge/difficulty in playing or reading, so I don't feel there's reason to reduce it here.

Rain

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Title:Snow Changes to a Beat Again
TitleUnicode:Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Artist:Halozy
ArtistUnicode:すみじゅん
Creator:BoberOfDarkness
Version:Hyperion's Hail
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Tags:c83 melody sumijun JBHyperion Jusenkyo
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StickyPicky

509 posts

Joined October 2012

StickyPicky 2016-01-21T18:30:39+00:00

Hello? :3

*my mod here are more about the patterns/jumps and missing notes. Apply it if possible.

Jusenkyo's Snowflake

00:01:369 (1) - too simple. Let the player interact with the first note. Move reverse arrow at x: 171

00:16:712 (2,3) - there's something wrong here. It should be more likely the same as 00:15:109 (3,4) - , to fix this, remove those (2,3) then add note at 00:16:709 - x: 284 , and a slider with reverse arrow at 00:16:941 - x:392 , a note also at 00:17:628 - x: 284

something like this

Frost

00:05:949 (3) - I don't suggest this kind of slider on a easy/normal diffs. move the reverse arrow at x: 152 , 00:07:781 (5) - like what you did here, but on different direction.

refer here

00:11:445 (3) - same^ x: 308

this kind of sliders bothers me 00:20:605 (3,4,3,3,1,2) - hope you can do much more with this one to improve it.

Snowfall

00:07:781 (3) - add more movement here.. move reverse arrow at x: 272
00:09:613 (3,3) - same ^

00:41:445 (4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - for a kiai time, this one lacks of jumps. listen to the cymbals, you can barely add (normal) jumps there. hope you'll add jumps there, to make it more fun.

Hyperion's Hail

00:05:949 (3,4,3,4) - add jump at (4)? a normal Dash. next: 4.02

I don't know what to say to Blizzard's diff. try to call a BN to check it carefully. Nice mapset. :3
that's all for now. Goodluck!

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-01-21T20:13:51+00:00

Hey

Updated~

osu file format v14

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-01-21T23:02:36+00:00

newtoniorock8 wrote:
Hello? :3

*my mod here are more about the patterns/jumps and missing notes. Apply it if possible.

Hyperion's Hail

00:05:949 (3,4,3,4) - add jump at (4)? a normal Dash. next: 4.02
Would prefer not to start using 1/4 jumps this early into the map, keeping the current spacing creates a more gradual difficulty increase leading into the map which feels more comfortable to play

Nice mapset. :3 that's all for now. Goodluck![/color][/b]

No changes from me, but thanks for the mod!

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2016-01-22T22:13:01+00:00

Updated but I will aplly mods tomorow since I had very long day at uni and I am tired

Qiyana

1,590 posts

Joined April 2014

Qiyana 2016-01-23T03:15:58+00:00

First mod in this group.

[General]
Nuthin..

[Jusenkyo's Snowflake]
00:36:521 (2) - Remove as it doesn't fit with the beat that well.
00:46:483 (3,4,5) - You might as well have a repeat slider because doing that would make it harder in most cases.

[Frost]
00:08:697 (1,2) - Try to avoid vertical sliders.
00:13:048 (2,3,4,5,6) - There is no need for a stream since there aren't the song sounds exactly the same at all times. If you did this, you would basically do it for the whole map.
00:15:109 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:41:674 (1,2,3,4) - Fill in the blanks. It fits in the beat.

[Snowfall]
00:13:620 (6) - Remove this, it doesn't sound right.
00:29:651 (4) - ^
00:33:659 (5) - NC

[Hyperion's Hail]
00:12:361 (1) - Remove NC
00:12:819 (2) - NC

[Blizzard]
00:25:185 (1,2,3) - Let's not use vertical slider please.

Banana.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-01-29T12:48:36+00:00

Dyl-Byl wrote:

First mod in this group.

[Hyperion's Hail]
00:12:361 (1) - Remove NC
00:12:819 (2) - NC
You might have noticed I make a NC on each downbeat (long white tick) - doing this would break that consistency so I prefer the current NC placement

No changes from me, but thanks for taking a look.

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2016-02-06T21:21:27+00:00

Razor Sharp wrote:
Requested ingame
GENERAL
Difficulty Naming: I am not too sure about the current naming. I get confused by it.
Tags: Add "Jusenkyo" to tag! Done

Blizzard
00:02:743 (1) - Why not move this spinner to the red tick at 00:04:804 - Instead?
00:05:033 (1,2,3,4,5) - These hyper patterns doesent really fit the song at all. They are too strong for the intro atleast. Would suggest either to make them non-hyper with high distance, or low distance weak hypers. disagree with that, no change sorry
00:06:178 (6,7) - Regardles of what you do with what i mentioned before, this is very uncomfortable. Reason is that the start of this song is simply not fitted for strong hypers. this is very uncomfortable because hyper does not fit song? nice.color=#00BFFF] I change pattern slightly [/color]
00:07:781 (1,2,3) - Also this, i would strongly suggest to remove all "hyper streams" like these. Remap them. These increase the difficulty, and we dont want a forced difficulty? Either way, IMO they are not fitting for the song at all. Firstly this is not "stream this is triplet, secondly this doesn't increase difficulty (maybe star ratting but not difficulty lol), thirdly this is not forced and it they hyper combo fit here
00:09:956 (4) - Try to move this to x220. It makes the flow better, and also gives a sweet movement to the player. moved to x:48 instead
00:12:361 (1) - Try to curve this instead of a straight one. The song calls for a curved pattern. And it also matches the rest of the song. There is not enough music background for adding some movement to it lol, fits nice to me as static stack
00:13:506 (7,1) - It is too early in the build up to have hyper streams tbh. Would preffer if you keep it non hyper until 00:16:025 (1) - sorry I won't remove those hypers but I nerf some jumps
00:16:483 (2) - Try to make this a 100% horizontal slider, as you get that sweet left right movement here. This will add up the challenge, but not increase star rating. I don't feel that is the best idea but lets try it
00:16:483 (2,1) - If you did as i mentioned above, move (1) more to the left to maintain the hyper. em, mistake sir I moved (1) before instead after I think that you meant that
00:24:269 (1,2) - I feel like the distance here is a little too big. Try to decrease it with 1 grid or so. done
00:36:636 (3,4,5,6) - Flow here is weird. Try to have equal spacing between them. A little bigger too. equality is not fun here tbh (lol such racist)
00:47:399 (3,4,5,1) - 00:48:028 (8,1,2) - No, just no. This doesent fit at all, and plays out weird. It is a flow breaker for sure. Try to change this into something that flows better. you are flow breaker saying me to remove it, I placed them cause 00:47:514 (4,5,1) - those are stronger than others, and sorry no change

This was fun to play.

Snowfall
00:05:491 (2,3) - Im back to again, mention that the hypers dont fit the intro :c Try to use some sweet left right patterns instead to keep it a little challenging. They do.
00:19:689 (1,2) - I feel like these are too strong so early. Try to change the distance to a smaller one. nerfed a bit
00:21:521 (1,2) - ^ k
00:24:498 (4,5) - This is a flowbreaker. Try to not have such a direction change. no change sorry
00:30:109 (6,7) - This suprised me. Its a unexpected direction change, and you should avoid that for a platter. fixed
00:43:849 (2) - This one also destroys the flow. Try to move it more to the right. I don;t think that destroy flow but I moved a bit cause it was ugly

Very interesting difficulty!

Frost
Slider Tick Rate: put it at 1. Salads should not have 2. This is frost :^) and I don't know such rule
00:47:628 (2,3,4) - Nasty direction change here. yea, but I have no idea to make it better

Clean and good!

Every thing else seems fine!

Good luck!

Dyl-Byl wrote:

First mod in this group.

[General]
Nuthin..

[Frost]
00:08:697 (1,2) - Try to avoid vertical sliders. why so?
00:13:048 (2,3,4,5,6) - There is no need for a stream since there aren't the song sounds exactly the same at all times. If you did this, you would basically do it for the whole map. I won't do this sorry, also there is no need for same sounds to make a stream
00:15:109 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:41:674 (1,2,3,4) - Fill in the blanks. It fits in the beat. mapping lower diff requires some undermapping, no change sorry

[Snowfall]
00:13:620 (6) - Remove this, it doesn't sound right. Sorry no change
00:29:651 (4) - ^^
00:33:659 (5) - NC nice spot, done

[Blizzard]
00:25:185 (1,2,3) - Let's not use vertical slider please. no change sorry, they are nice and fit

Banana. gonna catch 'emm all

Chara wrote:

[Frost]
00:42:132 (2) - Change to 1/2 slider, then move it closer. Sounds better for me. done
00:43:048 (4) - ^ done

[Snowfall]
With the way the notes are spaced, this feels more like a shortened Rain for me.
00:19:689 (1,2,1,2) - Try reducing spacing. done

[Blizzard]
00:09:613 (3,4,5) - The other notes with this rhythm has jumps, why not put a jump here? :> added small one
00:17:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Maybe make this more spacious, for more movement? I don't want to add much movement here since I use here 1/8 jumps lol

~~will replace "welcome to oss" message~~
:^)

newtoniorock8 wrote:
Hello? :3

*my mod here are more about the patterns/jumps and missing notes. Apply it if possible.

Frost

00:05:949 (3) - I don't suggest this kind of slider on a easy/normal diffs. move the reverse arrow at x: 152 , 00:07:781 (5) - like what you did here, but on different direction. sorry it works well so no change
refer here
00:11:445 (3) - same^ x: 308 same ^

this kind of sliders bothers me 00:20:605 (3,4,3,3,1,2) - hope you can do much more with this one to improve it. I don' think that needs improvement, I like how it is now

Snowfall

00:07:781 (3) - add more movement here.. move reverse arrow at x: 272 changed by myself
00:09:613 (3,3) - same ^ ^

00:41:445 (4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - for a kiai time, this one lacks of jumps. listen to the cymbals, you can barely add (normal) jumps there. hope you'll add jumps there, to make it more fun. tru, fixed

I don't know what to say to Blizzard's diff. try to call a BN to check it carefully. Nice mapset. :3 :3
that's all for now. Goodluck![/color]

Thanks for modding guys!

Last edited by BoberOfDarkness 2016-02-06T21:32:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-02-06T21:30:50+00:00

Dyl-Byl wrote:

First mod in this group.

[General]
Nuthin..

[Jusenkyo's Snowflake]
00:36:521 (2) - Remove as it doesn't fit with the beat that well.
Clearly, a sound is heard , so I prefer to leave
00:46:483 (3,4,5) - You might as well have a repeat slider because doing that would make it harder in most cases.Moved a bit

Banana.

Thank's for the mod

[Update]

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DeletedUser_6709840

DeletedUser_6709840 2016-11-02T21:54:49+00:00

M4M for a recheck.

General

Comment: I like the difficulty names, they're cute.

Shouldn't Frost be AR 7 to match the rest of the spread or is it to kinda mimic Hyperion's Hail with the decimals?

Jusenkyo's Snowflake should be at slider tick rate 2 to match the rest of the difficulties.

According to modding assist, you have unused hitsounds of the following:

normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitfinish.wav
normal-hitwhistle.wav
soft-hitnormal.wav

You may need to double check your hitsounds to make sure they're used or named correctly so they can be used.

Also, on Frost, you have conflicting hitsound settings at 00:01:369 since the red line says drum hitsounds yet the green line here says soft hitsounds. Please fix.

Jusenkyo's Snowflake

In General, this feels a bit over-mapped in the kiai and where the slider velocity is at 2.00x. You could use simpler patterns.

00:01:369 (1) – I think it would be a good idea to Ctrl+G this slider because currently the slider moves like anti-flow when the player moves the catcher to initially catch it.

00:11:445 (3,4) – Your distance have been consistent except here. Increase to 1.30x spacing so it's like the walking distance everywhere else.

00:17:628 (4,1) – Not rankable, there needs to be at least 1 bar of rhythm before and after spinners in Cups.

00:23:353 (1,2) – This plays a bit awkwardly because you have to pause to catch. Ctrl+H on 00:24:269 (2,3) - and move to X=292 to restore flow.

00:24:269 (2,3,4) – If you did the previous change, make sure this uses similar distance snap.

00:25:185 (1) – I think it would be better to Ctrl+H this slider if you made the previous two changes because the sudden change in direction is a bit confusing for a newer player.

00:33:430 (1) – I feel this would work better as having a slider here instead of a really short and disorienting spinner.

00:46:941 (5,1) – Here's the unrankable spinner issue again. It needs to be at least 1 bar before the spinner.

Frost

00:01:369 (1,2,3) – You should use the same distance snap so this is walk-able and flows. I'd just use a beat snap of 1.00x or 1.20x here.

00:05:491 (2,3) – This dash is WAY too large for a Salad. Move (3) to X=96.

00:05:949 (3,1,2) – This is a bit awkward and not very walk-able since the distances are strange. Move (2) to X=260 to make the pattern clearer to read.

00:13:048 (2,3,4,5,6) – You shouldn't do streams in Salads because it puts heavy load on the catcher, (3,4,5) should be replaced with a slider to lessen load.

00:15:109 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ Same here. Just use a long slider.

00:15:796 (7) – Move this to X=228. It reads as two dashes here otherwise and isn't very walk-able.

00:20:376 (2) – The pattern here has to be dashed through to catch everything and that counts as a pair of dashes and isn't rankable for Salads. Move (2) to X=168 so it's only one dash.

00:21:521 (1,2,3) – The anti-flow here is confusing for newer players. Ctrl+G this pattern and move to X=176.

00:22:437 (4) – This slider plays a bit weirdly, same with the one before but I'm not sure what should be done instead.

00:24:269 (3,1) – I wouldn't recommend using this anti-flow here since it's a bit disorienting. Try to adjust this so the slider on (1) flows left instead.

Snowfall

This.... is more of a Rain than Platter.

First off, get rid of all the 1/4th hypers that are unrankable since bpm is higher than 120. I didn't notice until after I modded at the following:

00:16:369 (4,1) – Hyper here.
00:26:445 (5,1) - ^
00:27:017 (1,2) - ^
00:28:849 (1,2) - ^
00:29:765 (5,6) - ^
00:32:514 (1,2) - ^
00:34:231 (6,1) - ^
00:46:025 (4,5) - ^
00:46:598 (6,7) - ^

00:12:361 – There's an unsnapped green line around here.

00:17:743 (4,1) – Unrankable, there needs to be at least 1 /2 before this spinner for Platters because of the bpm.

Patterns:

00:01:827 (2) – The walk-ability to and from slider (2) is a bit questionable. Possibly move to X=296 just so it's a little better.

00:08:697 (1,2,3) – This is a bit hard to read walk-ability wise. Move (2) to X=128 to play a bit better.

00:28:391 (6,7,1) – This isn't rankable because you have to jump to catch the hyper. Put 00:28:277 (5) on X=136, put (6) on X=66 and (7) on X=168.

Hyperion's Hail

Seems fine after 3 to 4 plays, nice diff.

Blizzard

00:16:025 (1,2) – Make these slider like each other so it's more catchable and readable. Preferably, (2) should look like (1).

00:17:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – Keep the flow simple here ;-; make it a C-curve like you have at 00:18:773 and it will also give the pattern more symmetry.

Thats's all for now, good luck.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-11-04T00:18:08+00:00

Because my cup is somewhat old, I wanted to make many changes on my own, by reference to the mod Roseus, thanks.

Update

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BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2016-11-15T15:31:42+00:00

RoseusJaeger wrote:
M4M for a recheck.

General

Comment: I like the difficulty names, they're cute. Thanks, t

Shouldn't Frost be AR 7 to match the rest of the spread or is it to kinda mimic Hyperion's Hail with the decimals?

Jusenkyo's Snowflake should be at slider tick rate 2 to match the rest of the difficulties.

According to modding assist, you have unused hitsounds of the following: fixed

normal-hitclap.wav
normal-hitfinish.wav
normal-hitwhistle.wav
soft-hitnormal.wav

You may need to double check your hitsounds to make sure they're used or named correctly so they can be used.

Also, on Frost, you have conflicting hitsound settings at 00:01:369 since the red line says drum hitsounds yet the green line here says soft hitsounds. Please fix. fixed

Frost

00:01:369 (1,2,3) – You should use the same distance snap so this is walk-able and flows. I'd just use a beat snap of 1.00x or 1.20x here. well, using same distance snap would make this less interesting to play

00:05:491 (2,3) – This dash is WAY too large for a Salad. Move (3) to X=96. fixed by myself

00:05:949 (3,1,2) – This is a bit awkward and not very walk-able since the distances are strange. Move (2) to X=260 to make the pattern clearer to read. I decreased distance

00:13:048 (2,3,4,5,6) – You shouldn't do streams in Salads because it puts heavy load on the catcher, (3,4,5) should be replaced with a slider to lessen load. Streams makes map less boring to play, and I make those streams very basic to play. There is nothing wrong with adding simply streams in Salad, its not std xD

00:15:109 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ Same here. Just use a long slider. ^^

00:15:796 (7) – Move this to X=228. It reads as two dashes here otherwise and isn't very walk-able. fixed

00:20:376 (2) – The pattern here has to be dashed through to catch everything and that counts as a pair of dashes and isn't rankable for Salads. Move (2) to X=168 so it's only one dash. fixed by myself

00:21:521 (1,2,3) – The anti-flow here is confusing for newer players. Ctrl+G this pattern and move to X=176. re:worked that

00:22:437 (4) – This slider plays a bit weirdly, same with the one before but I'm not sure what should be done instead. I changed the shape a bit

00:24:269 (3,1) – I wouldn't recommend using this anti-flow here since it's a bit disorienting. Try to adjust this so the slider on (1) flows left instead.

Snowfall

This.... is more of a Rain than Platter. 2k16 logic kek

First off, get rid of all the 1/4th hypers that are unrankable since bpm is higher than 120. I didn't notice until after I modded at the following: fixed

00:16:369 (4,1) – Hyper here.
00:26:445 (5,1) - ^
00:27:017 (1,2) - ^
00:28:849 (1,2) - ^
00:29:765 (5,6) - ^
00:32:514 (1,2) - ^
00:34:231 (6,1) - ^
00:46:025 (4,5) - ^
00:46:598 (6,7) - ^

00:12:361 – There's an unsnapped green line around here. fixed

00:17:743 (4,1) – Unrankable, there needs to be at least 1 /2 before this spinner for Platters because of the bpm. fixed

Patterns:

00:01:827 (2) – The walk-ability to and from slider (2) is a bit questionable. Possibly move to X=296 just so it's a little better. its fine as it is now

00:08:697 (1,2,3) – This is a bit hard to read walk-ability wise. Move (2) to X=128 to play a bit better. I fixed by myself

00:28:391 (6,7,1) – This isn't rankable because you have to jump to catch the hyper. Put 00:28:277 (5) on X=136, put (6) on X=66 and (7) on X=168. I fixed by myself but idk that rule

Blizzard

00:16:025 (1,2) – Make these slider like each other so it's more catchable and readable. Preferably, (2) should look like (1).

00:17:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) – Keep the flow simple here ;-; make it a C-curve like you have at 00:18:773 and it will also give the pattern more symmetry.

Thats's all for now, good luck.

Thanks a lot!

tsuneko

32 posts

Joined January 2013

tsuneko 2016-11-17T04:56:49+00:00

Finished modding map #1/3 XD

Jusenkyo's Snowflake

It's Cup difficulty with good map spread ?_? not much to mod here. Can't really say anything too specific but this is just what I think.

If you listen to 00:05:949 - , slider is used where additional notes would be put on higher difficulty, and same sound occurs at 00:07:781 - where two notes are used. Using this inconsistency as my standpoint:

00:06:865 - change to note
00:07:323 - change to note
00:07:781 - change to slider to 00:08:239 -
00:08:697 - change to note
00:09:155 - change to note
00:10:529 - change to note
00:10:987 - change to note
00:10:529 - kept as slider because tempo increase :X
00:16:483 (1,2,3) - so we kept the sliders earlier, so lets use a slider here instead of notes

(pattern starting at 00:20:147 )
00:21:063 - why are you using repeat slider here? you miss note at 00:20:834 -, feels awkward to play
maybe try different timings like this

00:21:979 - ^^
00:23:811 - ^^

00:26:559 - since this is emphasis point, it should have a walk jump instead of lining up with 00:26:788 (3,4) -

00:32:972 - why is there note here? no emphasis, replace with slider to 00:33:430 -
00:33:888 - this is where the note should be

00:34:346 - shorten slider to 00:34:689 - and add note 00:34:804 - even though *you should never use 1/4 notes in cup* it just plays like a slider and looks and sounds better
00:36:178 - ^^
00:38:010 - ^^
00:39:842 - ^^
00:41:674 - ^^
00:43:506 - ^^
00:45:338 - ^^
00:42:361 - add note (tempo increase so make it rain more apples)
00:43:277 - ^^
00:44:193 - ^^
00:45:109 - ^^
00:46:025 - ^^
00:46:941 - ^^

Frost

Okay, I have even less to say about salad difficulty lol

(Pattern at 00:12:361 )
I feel like you are putting too many notes down which don't match with the song (at least on salad difficulty XD). It sounds like you're matching the notes with the buildup to make a stream, but I think if you want to do this at this difficulty then it should be at the buildup before the end since this buildup doesn't even go into Kiai

Actually I think its better if you keep what you have from 00:15:109 - to the spinner and change 00:12:361 - timing to something like this:

00:14:193 (1) - I think you can try timing like this instead:

00:19:689 - replace with note
00:20:147 - slider here to 00:20:376 -
00:21:521 - slider to 00:21:750 -

00:45:338 - to 00:48:315 - have larger map spread, use more notes and shorter sliders

Snowfall

Yet again, way less to write here. Your mapping is quality

. In fact I don't even think what I write here counts as a mod anymore lol. When I get around to mapping again, this map is basically the same style I use :3

you had HDash going right at 00:05:491 - and another HDash going right at 00:07:323 - I'm too lazy to re-design by myself but its more natural to have the second HDash going left, especially when they're within 2 seconds of each other

00:05:949 (3,4,5) - spread this a bit more

I think you overuse HDash a little in this section, also too many dash left now

00:09:155 (2) - try x:104 (break HDash)
00:13:277 (3,4,5,6,7) - maybe break HDash here and add more spread between (1,2,3)
00:22:437 (3,4,5) - you should spread this a bit more
00:45:338 (1,2,3,4) - make this curve smoother like the other streams you had

Hail

Oh this is amazing difficulty LOL
00:48:544 (1,2) - doesn't look nice visually, you already have 00:49:002 (1) - after the stream so you can just keep the curve smooth

Blizzard

Not really qualified yet to mod overdose, but anyway~
00:17:285 (2,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You can add more spread within this snake stream to make the map more interesting
00:40:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - rework this stream, it doesn't fit with rest of map
00:47:170 (1,2,3) - rather than snake stream, i think inwards curve stream like 00:47:628 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - would make the end feel more natural

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-11-17T09:24:54+00:00

tsuneko wrote:
Hail
Oh this is amazing difficulty LOL <3
00:48:544 (1,2) - doesn't look nice visually, you already have 00:49:002 (1) - after the stream so you can just keep the curve smooth Even if I swap this with circles, the switch from 1/8 to 1/4 still looks kinda weird, but not much I can do about that. I wanted to split these into sliders to really emphasise the climax of the song, though I did tidy it up a little.

Thanks for the suggestion! Also cleaned up a few awkward spacings and weird flow, let's get it ranked this year ok (:

Hail

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Absolute Zero

Featured Artist

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2016-11-26T22:20:41+00:00

Aaaa the diff titles are slightly confusing

[Cup]
In response to the sparse number of comments here--I think that some variety of sliders and hitcircles in cups never hurts.
Overall you could use a bit more movement as the movement is awfully stagnant and centered.
00:01:369 (1,2) - To mimic the music better you might make this a 1/1 repeat slider instead of a slider and a hitcircle.
00:12:361 -

Ticker is on 00:12:361

00:12:389 - Unnecessary greenline here. Remove it as it changes no properties.
00:21:063 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider and hitcircle. Slider to a white tick is the opposite polarity you want.
00:22:895 (2) - ^
00:48:993 - Kiai end not snapped.

Something about NCs:

The NCs want to follow a pattern that generally starts on the large white tick unless there are other circumstances. You do not have the white tick with a NC here, so I would move NCs to these places:
00:21:521 -
00:23:353 -
00:25:185 (4) -
00:27:017 (4) -

[Frost]
00:06:865 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is inconsistent with other patterns of the similar rhythm (i.e. 00:05:033 (1,2) and 00:08:697 (1,2)). Change this to mirror those.
00:13:391 (3) - Remove this hitcircle--I don't hear it in the music.
00:15:223 (3) - ^
00:16:025 - Increase volume here to 40%, perhaps? Just need some sort of buildup.
00:17:628 (3,1) - Unrankable--you need a 1/1 gap between a spinner and an object here.
00:32:857 (2,3) - Tilt (2) the opposite direction because the slight antiflow kind of breaks the back-forth you have.
00:34:346 (1,2) - Lack of movement here is a little strange.
00:36:865 (1,2) - Move (1) to x=272 and (2) x=305 for a smoother movement to (3).
00:39:384 (1) - Remove NC here.
00:41:674 (1,2,3,4) - Strange drop in density here. Not sure what the slider ends of (2) and (4) are following, but also you miss nice notes like 00:41:903 and 00:42:819.
00:48:086 (1,1) - Unrankable. The time distance between an object and a spinner at this bpm must be a 1-bar gap and here you have a 1/2-bar gap. I would suggest making the spinner a slider instead.
00:49:002 - Remove inherited timing point here. It doesn't change any properties of the map.
00:49:460 (1,2,3,4) - If anything, I would suggest lowering the distance here from (2,3) and (3,4). This is because the bells fade away.

[Snowfall]
00:07:323 (2,3) - Unnecessary hyper here. Nothing is particularly accented. Lower distance to a dash but keep the hyper from 00:07:781 (3,1).
00:09:155 (2,3) - Again, there's an unnecessary hyper. Same solution as before.
00:13:277 (3,4,5,6,7) - Why the sudden density here? The music does not change in any way to suggest 1/4 patterns.
00:14:193 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The 1/4 drumbeat is really negligible here, and at the start of the pattern I can't hear it. I would follow the rhythmical pattern you're doing before until 00:16:025 (1).
00:16:941 (1,2) - Make these slightly more slanted for a similar movement.
00:23:582 (2,3) - Why switch the polarity suddenly? Make these sliders start on white ticks like before.
00:25:643 (3,4) - A little too close to an edge dash as players are used to hypers on stronger beats at this point.
00:26:559 (1) - No NC here.
00:27:475 (2,3) - Lower distancing here. This HDash is a little harsh for a platter.
00:39:384 (6,7,1) - I would suggest simplifying this pattern by having the catcher go all left or all right while still preserving the hyperdash from (7,1). The sudden requirement to dash and then HDash the opposite way is a little complicated.
00:42:590 (1,2,3) - Relatively low movement compared to the patterns around it. Make these sliders less straight and move them outwards slightly.
00:44:880 (4,1) - Music buildup h y p e...and no hyperdash here. Add one, for the sake of following the music!
00:46:254 (5) - Put a NC here. The object count in the combo gets too high.

[Hyperion's Hail]
00:13:277 (3,4,5,6) - I'd argue that this is a slightly strange pattern here to play because it crams the player in the right side.
00:16:025 (1,2,3,4) - The movement of these sliders is kind of strange (as in "not smooth"). I would move (1,2) a little further apart so the catcher is consistently moving.
00:18:257 (8,1) - Discussed in discord--I just wanted to put it here. This stream contains 1/8 hypers, and the bpm is over 120, making this technically unrankable. However, playability is fine and simple. In a way, it's not really an issue although this may be the preventing factor from the ranking of the map. Your call, although I would take Zirox's solution and remove 00:18:257 (8), 00:18:715 (8), and 00:19:173 (8).
00:28:277 (5,6) - Lower distance here. Strange distancing lends to a weird-looking pattern.
00:42:017 - Perhaps you want to add a hitcircle here to make the rhythms more constant with the patterns afterwards.
00:46:712 (1,2) - I think you should make these straight sliders instead. This is to preserve patterning.
00:48:486 (8,1) - This is a bit strange of a movement. The sudden sharp direction change could cause a miss at (2). Flip (1).

[Blizzard]
This difficulty needs some work due to inconsistencies and some rhythmical overmaps. I'll stop with this because I feel this difficulty can use fine-tuning, and that I don't think I need to go further than this for now. What you should look out for is hyper usage, mapping notes that aren't there, and inconsistencies in what you map.
00:05:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern is kind of boring, being just back-and-forth with hypers. I would try to lower the amount of hypers while adding some nice antiflow to the start of this section.
00:07:781 (1,2) - I don't see anything in the music that suggests an appropriate hyper usage here. Lower distance.
00:12:361 (1) - Personally disagree with a buzz slider here as it's only a cymbal. Make it like such:

Ticker is on 00:12:361

00:12:389 - Remove green timing line here. The change from SC:3 to S is unnecessary and strange.
00:19:746 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't hear anything in the music to suggest that this stream should be here. Treat it like 00:20:147 (1).
00:22:208 (2) - Make this a 1/2 repeat slider or a 1/2 slider and a hitcircle. Buzz slider doesn't make sense here?
00:27:934 (4,5,6) - Agh, this pattern is really strange. The forced sudden left-right is really unnatural for the player. Additionally, the hyper doesn't make any sense here--I would make this pattern more linear and have the hyper simply from (6,1).
00:28:849 (1,2,3) - Same as 00:27:934 (4,5,6).
00:39:384 (5,6,7) - Overuse of hypers. To (6), I'm not sure why you put this movement in, and I would lower the distance to a dash only.
00:39:842 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapping again. Same idea as 00:22:208 (2).
00:40:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Unnecessary 1/8s. Again, apply 00:22:208 (2) or follow the rhythms around it.
00:41:330 (2,3,4,5,6) - If you don't take any of my suggestions to change these 1/8 patterns, at least take this one because it sounds weird starting on a blue tick. Add a hitcircle at 00:41:273 if you want to keep it or make it a 1/2 repeat slider.
00:43:506 (1,2,3,4) - Ehhh....you can kind of spice this pattern up a bit. You could create some more antiflow here because right now it's a little boring just the back-forth movement.
00:44:422 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern here plays strangely due to the fact that this is the only time you cram the catcher into one side. It's a little jarring to the player and could cause an unnecessary miss.
00:46:254 (5) - NC here to preserve the pattern of NCs you had before.
00:49:003 (1,2,3) - Just an idea, but perhaps you want to lower SV after each slider so it kind of mimics the sound fading away.

BoberOfDarkness

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Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2016-11-29T14:07:58+00:00

tsuneko wrote:
Frost
Okay, I have even less to say about salad difficulty lol

(Pattern at 00:12:361 ) you forgot to put the '-' :^)
I feel like you are putting too many notes down which don't match with the song (at least on salad difficulty XD). It sounds like you're matching the notes with the buildup to make a stream, but I think if you want to do this at this difficulty then it should be at the buildup before the end since this buildup doesn't even go into Kiai it doesn't need to go to the kiai, its nice to play and the timeline is nice

Actually I think its better if you keep what you have from 00:15:109 - to the spinner and change 00:12:361 - timing to something like this:

00:14:193 (1) - I think you can try timing like this instead:

00:19:689 - replace with note
00:20:147 - slider here to 00:20:376 -
00:21:521 - slider to 00:21:750 - I delete note at 00:21:750 - instead, plays better with some larger

00:45:338 - to 00:48:315 - have larger map spread, use more notes and shorter sliders notes density is pretty big rn, and I don't feel like placing more notes instead sliders will make map better[/box]
[box=Snowfall]Yet again, way less to write here. Your mapping is quality . In fact I don't even think what I write here counts as a mod anymore lol. When I get around to mapping again, this map is basically the same style I use :3 thank you <3

you had HDash going right at 00:05:491 - and another HDash going right at 00:07:323 - I'm too lazy to re-design by myself but its more natural to have the second HDash going left, especially when they're within 2 seconds of each other I re:desing that part

00:05:949 (3,4,5) - spread this a bit more okay
I think you overuse HDash a little in this section, also too many dash left now I think so sorry no changes to hypers
00:09:155 (2) - try x:104 (break HDash)
00:13:277 (3,4,5,6,7) - maybe break HDash here and add more spread between (1,2,3)
00:22:437 (3,4,5) - you should spread this a bit more okay
00:45:338 (1,2,3,4) - make this curve smoother like the other streams you had I think that spaced one fits more here
Hail
Oh this is amazing difficulty LOL
00:48:544 (1,2) - doesn't look nice visually, you already have 00:49:002 (1) - after the stream so you can just keep the curve smooth
Blizzard
Not really qualified yet to mod overdose, but anyway~ I guess you are since 100% sugestions applied here xD
00:17:285 (2,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You can add more spread within this snake stream to make the map more interesting fixed
00:40:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - rework this stream, it doesn't fit with rest of map done
00:47:170 (1,2,3) - rather than snake stream, i think inwards curve stream like 00:47:628 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - would make the end feel more natural fixed
[/notice]

Thanks a lot!

Absolute Zero wrote:
Aaaa the diff titles are slightly confusing

[Frost]
00:06:865 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is inconsistent with other patterns of the similar rhythm (i.e. 00:05:033 (1,2) and 00:08:697 (1,2)). Change this to mirror those. I re:worked this 00:10:529 (1,2,3,4) - instead so it is now 1/2 sliders > notes > 1/2 sliders > notes
00:13:391 (3) - Remove this hitcircle--I don't hear it in the music. There is a sound to map but I am removing for using less 1/4 sake
00:15:223 (3) - ^ I guess same
00:16:025 - Increase volume here to 40%, perhaps? Just need some sort of buildup. okay nice spot
00:17:628 (3,1) - Unrankable--you need a 1/1 gap between a spinner and an object here. Thats so shitty fixed
00:32:857 (2,3) - Tilt (2) the opposite direction because the slight antiflow kind of breaks the back-forth you have. fixed
00:34:346 (1,2) - Lack of movement here is a little strange. I don't use any 1/4 movement since salad isn't the diff to introduce it, not on that BPM
00:36:865 (1,2) - Move (1) to x=272 and (2) x=305 for a smoother movement to (3). okay
00:39:384 (1) - Remove NC here. fixed
00:41:674 (1,2,3,4) - Strange drop in density here. Not sure what the slider ends of (2) and (4) are following, but also you miss nice notes like 00:41:903 and 00:42:819. I made those sliders 1/2 instead
00:48:086 (1,1) - Unrankable. The time distance between an object and a spinner at this bpm must be a 1-bar gap and here you have a 1/2-bar gap. I would suggest making the spinner a slider instead. fixed
00:49:002 - Remove inherited timing point here. It doesn't change any properties of the map. fixed
00:49:460 (1,2,3,4) - If anything, I would suggest lowering the distance here from (2,3) and (3,4). This is because the bells fade away. ctrl +g + h and works fine now

[Snowfall]
00:07:323 (2,3) - Unnecessary hyper here. Nothing is particularly accented. Lower distance to a dash but keep the hyper from 00:07:781 (3,1).
00:09:155 (2,3) - Again, there's an unnecessary hyper. Same solution as before.
00:13:277 (3,4,5,6,7) - Why the sudden density here? The music does not change in any way to suggest 1/4 patterns. I build the build-up a bit more spaced in the timeline
00:14:193 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The 1/4 drumbeat is really negligible here, and at the start of the pattern I can't hear it. I would follow the rhythmical pattern you're doing before until 00:16:025 (1). fixed I guess
00:16:941 (1,2) - Make these slightly more slanted for a similar movement. color=#0000FF]fixed[/color]
00:23:582 (2,3) - Why switch the polarity suddenly? Make these sliders start on white ticks like before. fixed
00:25:643 (3,4) - A little too close to an edge dash as players are used to hypers on stronger beats at this point. hypered
00:26:559 (1) - No NC here. idk why I placed it here, fixed
00:27:475 (2,3) - Lower distancing here. This HDash is a little harsh for a platter. lowered a tiny bit
00:39:384 (6,7,1) - I would suggest simplifying this pattern by having the catcher go all left or all right while still preserving the hyperdash from (7,1). The sudden requirement to dash and then HDash the opposite way is a little complicated. fixed
00:42:590 (1,2,3) - Relatively low movement compared to the patterns around it. Make these sliders less straight and move them outwards slightly.
00:44:880 (4,1) - Music buildup h y p e...and no hyperdash here. Add one, for the sake of following the music! don't shut at me, I added one
00:46:254 (5) - Put a NC here. The object count in the combo gets too high.

[Blizzard]
This difficulty needs some work due to inconsistencies and some rhythmical overmaps. I'll stop with this because I feel this difficulty can use fine-tuning, and that I don't think I need to go further than this for now. What you should look out for is hyper usage, mapping notes that aren't there, and inconsistencies in what you map.
00:05:033 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern is kind of boring, being just back-and-forth with hypers. I would try to lower the amount of hypers while adding some nice antiflow to the start of this section. re:worked
00:07:781 (1,2) - I don't see anything in the music that suggests an appropriate hyper usage here. Lower distance. I don't see anything in the music that suggest normal movement here.
00:12:361 (1) - Personally disagree with a buzz slider here as it's only a cymbal. I like the idea of making a little build-up with that buzz slider, sorry no change Make it like such:
Ticker is on 00:12:361
00:12:389 - Remove green timing line here. The change from SC:3 to S is unnecessary and strange. I placed it for buzz slider, it sounds better with std. hitsounds to me
00:19:746 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't hear anything in the music to suggest that this stream should be here. Treat it like 00:20:147 (1). there is a long bg sound which is worth emphasizing for me with 1/8, and 00:20:147 (1) - doesn't have it, no change I guess.
00:22:208 (2) - Make this a 1/2 repeat slider or a 1/2 slider and a hitcircle. Buzz slider doesn't make sense here? welp, fixed
00:27:934 (4,5,6) - Agh, this pattern is really strange. The forced sudden left-right is really unnatural for the player. Additionally, the hyper doesn't make any sense here--I would make this pattern more linear and have the hyper simply from (6,1). well, its not the rain difficulty in which every pattern should be comfortable for players, the hypers fits here so I will keep them
00:28:849 (1,2,3) - Same as 00:27:934 (4,5,6). I don't see a reason to remove them, sorry
00:39:384 (5,6,7) - Overuse of hypers. To (6), I'm not sure why you put this movement in, and I would lower the distance to a dash only. fixed
00:39:842 (1,2,3,4,5) - Overmapping again. Same idea as 00:22:208 (2). fixed
00:40:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Unnecessary 1/8s. Again, apply 00:22:208 (2) or follow the rhythms around it. fixed
00:41:330 (2,3,4,5,6) - If you don't take any of my suggestions to change these 1/8 patterns, at least take this one because it sounds weird starting on a blue tick. Add a hitcircle at 00:41:273 if you want to keep it or make it a 1/2 repeat slider.
00:43:506 (1,2,3,4) - Ehhh....you can kind of spice this pattern up a bit. You could create some more antiflow here because right now it's a little boring just the back-forth movement.
00:44:422 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern here plays strangely due to the fact that this is the only time you cram the catcher into one side. It's a little jarring to the player and could cause an unnecessary miss. firstly ask to make spice the pattern then ask to re:work anti-flow pattern, meh
00:46:254 (5) - NC here to preserve the pattern of NCs you had before. nice spot
00:49:003 (1,2,3) - Just an idea, but perhaps you want to lower SV after each slider so it kind of mimics the sound fading away. okay, lets try

I guess I fixed main issues on this diff

About Rain I think that single 1/8 hypers are fine, the Guidelines says that we should't use them on BPM higher than 120 but 131 is not that high to not use them, also the Overdose uses a lot of 1/8 so I think that the Rain is nice place to introduce them.

Thanks for mod <3

All diffs but Cup updated.

Last edited by BoberOfDarkness 2016-11-30T11:28:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-11-29T19:34:24+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
Aaaa the diff titles are slightly confusing ):

[Hyperion's Hail]
00:13:277 (3,4,5,6) - I'd argue that this is a slightly strange pattern here to play because it crams the player in the right side. Moved 00:13:849 (5,6) - to the left instead
00:16:025 (1,2,3,4) - The movement of these sliders is kind of strange (as in "not smooth"). I would move (1,2) a little further apart so the catcher is consistently moving. Moved 00:16:025 (1,3) - right slightly for a better curved flow
00:18:257 (8,1) - Discussed in discord--I just wanted to put it here. This stream contains 1/8 hypers, and the bpm is over 120, making this technically unrankable. However, playability is fine and simple. In a way, it's not really an issue although this may be the preventing factor from the ranking of the map. Your call, although I would take Zirox's solution and remove 00:18:257 (8), 00:18:715 (8), and 00:19:173 (8). Sucks that this has to change despite playing almost exactly the same, but rules are rules. Removed the last 1/8 in each set to make these 1/4 hypers instead
00:28:277 (5,6) - Lower distance here. Strange distancing lends to a weird-looking pattern. Lowered a little, though I feel this looks and plays fine
00:42:017 - Perhaps you want to add a hitcircle here to make the rhythms more constant with the patterns afterwards. Sure
00:46:712 (1,2) - I think you should make these straight sliders instead. This is to preserve patterning. Care to elaborate on what you mean here? I'm angling them slightly to infer buildup in intensity, since this part is clearly stronger
00:48:486 (8,1) - This is a bit strange of a movement. The sudden sharp direction change could cause a miss at (2). Flip (1). The direction change gives emphasis to the huge change in intensity and rhythm. I feel it fits nicely, especially now considering there is an extra leniency without the last 1/8

Thanks for the mod!

Rain

osu file format v14

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PreviewTime: 19689
Countdown: 0
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DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 4
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TitleUnicode:Snow Changes to a Beat Again
Artist:Halozy
ArtistUnicode:Halozy
Creator:BoberOfDarkness
Version:Hyperion's Hail
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Tags:c83 melody sumijun JBHyperion すみじゅん Jusenkyo
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Cowboy

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Cowboy 2016-11-29T20:37:08+00:00

tsuneko wrote:
Finished modding map #1/3 XD
Jusenkyo's Snowflake
It's Cup difficulty with good map spread ?_? not much to mod here. Can't really say anything too specific but this is just what I think.

If you listen to 00:05:949 - , slider is used where additional notes would be put on higher difficulty, and same sound occurs at 00:07:781 - where two notes are used. Using this inconsistency as my standpoint: imo, hitsounds are great.

00:06:865 - change to note Slider fits better than a note.
00:07:323 - change to note Same above.
00:07:781 - change to slider to 00:08:239 - Notes are added to more variety.
00:08:697 - change to note Make consistency with next patterns.
00:09:155 - change to note Same above
00:10:529 - change to note New stanza, i like the slider here.
00:10:987 - change to note Same.
00:10:529 - kept as slider because tempo increase :X Already are a slider o.o
00:16:483 (1,2,3) - so we kept the sliders earlier, so lets use a slider here instead of notes

(pattern starting at 00:20:147 )
00:21:063 - why are you using repeat slider here? you miss note at 00:20:834 -, feels awkward to play
maybe try different timings like this I like repeat sliders, are simple patterns, don't need to map all sounds.

00:21:979 - ^^ Same
00:23:811 - ^^ Same above

00:26:559 - since this is emphasis point, it should have a walk jump instead of lining up with 00:26:788 (3,4) - I'm not sure about that, i'll try.

00:32:972 - why is there note here? no emphasis, replace with slider to 00:33:430 - There's a clap lol
00:33:888 - this is where the note should be Don't need to be here.

00:34:346 - shorten slider to 00:34:689 - and add note 00:34:804 - even though *you should never use 1/4 notes in cup* it just plays like a slider and looks and sounds better
00:36:178 - ^^
00:38:010 - ^^
00:39:842 - ^^
00:41:674 - ^^
00:43:506 - ^^
00:45:338 - ^^ Don't applied, don't need to be the same.
00:42:361 - add note (tempo increase so make it rain more apples) Kiai time need to be more hard, but i don't want to add a note here.
00:43:277 - ^^ Same
00:44:193 - ^^ Same here.
00:45:109 - ^^Same
00:46:025 - ^^Same
00:46:941 - ^^ Same too.

Thanks for taking a look, but don't changes for now.

Absolute Zero wrote:
Aaaa the diff titles are slightly confusing They aren't lol

[Cup]
In response to the sparse number of comments here--I think that some variety of sliders and hitcircles in cups never hurts.
Overall you could use a bit more movement as the movement is awfully stagnant and centered.
00:01:369 (1,2) - To mimic the music better you might make this a 1/1 repeat slider instead of a slider and a hitcircle.
It seems like a good suggestion, done.
00:12:361 -
Ticker is on 00:12:361
00:12:389 - Unnecessary greenline here. Remove it as it changes no properties. Sure, removed.
00:21:063 (2) - Make this a 1/2 slider and hitcircle. Slider to a white tick is the opposite polarity you want. In my opinion, the repeat slider fits better than the slider and the note together, there are no changes.
00:22:895 (2) - ^ Same for consistency.
00:48:993 - Kiai end not snapped.

Something about NCs:
The NCs want to follow a pattern that generally starts on the large white tick unless there are other circumstances. You do not have the white tick with a NC here, so I would move NCs to these places:
00:21:521 -
00:23:353 -
00:25:185 (4) - All applied.
00:27:017 (4) -

Thanks for the mod.

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[General]
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Sorry for the late.

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2016-11-29T21:03:26+00:00

I was late too

All diffs updated.

Moeruattack

763 posts

Joined June 2014

Moeruattack 2016-12-09T14:19:28+00:00

#m4mreqs (too late m4ms so rip ;-;)
I think i did mod back then but meh, 2016 i guess :3

-
Blizzard

No problem with this map,
Only concern about hitsounding on the end of the spinner, which doesn`t seem to have beat rather than strong *Beep* hitsounding.
Removing the hitsound like Jusenkyo Cup seems fine too.

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Hyperion's Hail
HP 5.5 seems okay too to fix HP spread.

+ 00:13:849 (5) - Low beat but distance makes a bit weird pattern. Moving to x:364 seems ok.
+ 00:26:101 (4) - Maybe this one should be H-dash instead since it looks better. Try move to x:344.
+ 00:36:178 (1,2,3) - The anti-flow is too stronk. Try move 00:36:521 (2,3) a bit left to x:232.
+ 00:46:254 (1,2) - I love to see this slider a bit tilted instead of straight slider.
+ 00:50:376 (1) - Same as Blizzard Hitsounding, seems even better if it was zero hitsounding, like Jusenkyo Cup.

No comment since It was good rain map :>

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Snowfall
I suggest use 2 spinner only to fix spread.

+ 00:14:193 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Beat doesn`t seem work well with 1/4 spam on the beginning of 00:14:765 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) .Try use this timeline : http://puu.sh/sJx6v/26130de6e8.jpg,
that might can make a pattern like 00:12:361 (1,2,3,4) one. 00:17:399 (2) seems better if make it 1/4 but the next one will be slider instead of Spinner.
+ 00:28:620 (6,1) - Move both of this to a bit left to x:136, making the (6) have a bit shaped from previous slider.
+ 00:31:139 (2) - Might move a bit left to x:256 to lessen distance.
+ 00:38:239 (2,3) - Anti-flow for platter. Might just ctrl+g the 00:38:239 (2) and move to x:244, then 00:38:697 (3) ctrl+g then move to x:52.
+ 00:40:071 (2,3,4) - Maybe could make a bit slight movements instead of straight one. Like move (2) to x:368, (3) move to x440 and (4) to x:316.
+ 00:47:170 (1) - Rather than spinner, you can turn this to slider or 1/4 stream note, but slider seems better I
+ 00:50:376 (4) - Spinner start here instead.

Not sure since I seeing way lot of changes occured.

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Frost
+ AR/OD change to 6.5 seems fine, the spread is really weird. (5 > 6.8 > 8)
+ 00:50:834 (4) - Start spinner here instead.

Perfect already :3

Jusenkyo Cup is "OK.exe" :3

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Benita 2016-12-10T20:59:00+00:00

I personally don't like the diffnames because they make no sense to me... but oh well who am I to judge :thinking: requested by bober

Jusenkyo's Snowflake

00:11:445 (2) - Maybe delete repeat and add a note there isntead to emphasize the finisher better
00:50:834 (1) - hmm either start spinner here 00:50:376 - or 00:51:750 - , makes more sense than where it currently is starting

Frost

00:10:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe try to do something else with this back and forth pattern as it might be a bit too much for the intro... I'd say save patterns like this for kiai! :3
00:27:933 (3,1) - err these are really really weirdly shaped sliders that don't really play well either.. Try to make something more alike 00:24:269 (3) -
00:51:750 (1) - I think it would be better to start spinner here 00:50:376 -

Snowfall

00:29:765 (4,5,6,1) - I think this pattern might be a bit too antiflowy, I think you should make the dash to 5 the other way to keep the flow going
00:32:514 (1,2) - I would try to curve this the other way, the antiflow isn't really needed here
00:40:071 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - These patterns are placed awfully far out on the wall D: Try to move them a tiny bit more into the playfield so you don't hit the wall while playing
00:43:506 (1,2) - This jump is a bit too far, move it them closer
00:45:338 (1,2,3,4) - I think this stream is a bit too much curved
00:47:170 (1) - Why is this a spinner in Platter but not in Salad? I'd suggest removing it and mapping this instead
00:51:750 (1) - Why does the spinner start here? I think starting it 00:50:376 - like Rain and Overdose fits better and it's still a decent amount of time between the last note and spinner start

Hyperion's Hail

00:19:231 (1) - I don't like this antiflow, I'd suggest to flip the slider the other way or something
00:45:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I find this pattern very awkward to hit due to the distance, maybe try to reduce the distance a tiny bit to improve the flow

Blizzard

00:07:781 (1,2,3) - Maybe save hypers like this for later in the map? Seems a bit too much for the intro lol
00:16:025 (1,1,1,2,3,4) - You can make so many more interesting patterns here... The two first sliders are so boring.. You could try to space them out a bit like you did 00:14:193 (1,2,3,4) -
00:19:746 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Are 1/8's nessecary here?
00:24:269 (1,2,3) - Hmm, this is pretty hard to catch because of the long distance from 1 to 2.. You should proably make it a hyper like you've done with similar triplets
00:36:636 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Again, you can be much more creative with these streams because the BPM is so low...
00:40:758 (5,6,1,2) - This pattern here seems very harsh imo, you've never used this long hypers in the whole map.. Reduce the distance on the double-hyper to make it flow better
00:44:422 (1,2,3,4) - err this is very awkwardly spaced, try to make the spacing a bit more equal
00:48:028 (8,1,2,3) - I feel like thiese hypers are wrongly placed? Like, the previous pattern 00:47:456 (6,7,8,1) - looks good cause the hyperchain ends on 1 but this second starts on 8 which makes no sense to me
00:48:372 (6,7) - The hyper should be between 00:48:486 (8,1) - to emphasize the end of the kiai

meh I suck at modding lower diffs xD but hey, I tried n_n GL :p

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-12-10T21:06:42+00:00

BennyBananas wrote:
I personally don't like the diffnames because they make no sense to me... but oh well who am I to judge :thinking: requested by bober

Jusenkyo's Snowflake
00:11:445 (2) - Maybe delete repeat and add a note there isntead to emphasize the finisher better Sure, why not!
00:50:834 (1) - hmm either start spinner here 00:50:376 - or 00:51:750 - , makes more sense than where it currently is starting I'm not sure, but i'll try to put the spinner to make sense.

meh I suck at modding lower diffs xD but hey, I tried n_n GL :p

Thanks for the mod!

Update

osu file format v14

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JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,885 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-12-11T13:19:16+00:00

murutattack wrote:
#m4mreqs (too late m4ms so rip ;-;)
I think i did mod back then but meh, 2016 i guess :3

-
Hyperion's Hail
HP 5.5 seems okay too to fix HP spread. Decimal HP rounds to the nearest integer, so HP5.5 = HP6 anyway. No need to change

+ 00:13:849 (5) - Low beat but distance makes a bit weird pattern. Moving to x:364 seems ok. 00:13:849 (5,6) - Is intended to be walkable, I don't find this weird at all
+ 00:26:101 (4) - Maybe this one should be H-dash instead since it looks better. Try move to x:344. Don't want to create a double hyperdash here, too much of an unnecessary difficulty spike imo
+ 00:36:178 (1,2,3) - The anti-flow is too stronk. Try move 00:36:521 (2,3) a bit left to x:232. Done
+ 00:46:254 (1,2) - I love to see this slider a bit tilted instead of straight slider. I prefer to keep the first two vertical as it gives the next two more emphasis
+ 00:50:376 (1) - Same as Blizzard Hitsounding, seems even better if it was zero hitsounding, like Jusenkyo Cup. Removed clap

No comment since It was good rain map :>

@Benny
First was fixed with the previous mod, second reduced a little for each.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Rain

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Tags:c83 melody sumijun JBHyperion すみじゅん Jusenkyo
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BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2016-12-15T01:52:41+00:00

BennyBananas wrote:
I personally don't like the diffnames because they make no sense to me... but oh well who am I to judge :thinking: requested by bober

Blizzard
00:07:781 (1,2,3) - Maybe save hypers like this for later in the map? Seems a bit too much for the intro lol I like having that in into
00:16:025 (1,1,1,2,3,4) - You can make so many more interesting patterns here... The two first sliders are so boring.. You could try to space them out a bit like you did 00:14:193 (1,2,3,4) - eh I like simply pattering here
00:19:746 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Are 1/8's nessecary here? yup
00:24:269 (1,2,3) - Hmm, this is pretty hard to catch because of the long distance from 1 to 2.. You should proably make it a hyper like you've done with similar triplets fixed
00:36:636 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Again, you can be much more creative with these streams because the BPM is so low... I like how they flows so sorry but no change here
00:40:758 (5,6,1,2) - This pattern here seems very harsh imo, you've never used this long hypers in the whole map.. Reduce the distance on the double-hyper to make it flow better fixed stuff
00:44:422 (1,2,3,4) - err this is very awkwardly spaced, try to make the spacing a bit more equal it that works too good to change that
00:48:028 (8,1,2,3) - I feel like thiese hypers are wrongly placed? Like, the previous pattern 00:47:456 (6,7,8,1) - looks good cause the hyperchain ends on 1 but this second starts on 8 which makes no sense to me I don't get your point
00:48:372 (6,7) - The hyper should be between 00:48:486 (8,1) - to emphasize the end of the kiai oh right fixed

meh I suck at modding lower diffs xD but hey, I tried n_n GL :p

on lower diffs all fixed
same on murut mod^

@Jusen 00:50:376 - maybe start last spinner here so now all diffs will have last spinner on same spot?

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-12-18T04:31:38+00:00

@Jusen 00:50:376 - maybe start last spinner here so now all diffs will have last spinner on same spot? Done

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-Sh1n1-

3,404 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2016-12-19T06:57:48+00:00

Cup

00:01:369 - la linea verde es totalmente innecesaria si vas a ponerle las mismas opciones que la roja, asi que seria bueno si la eliminas antes de causar algun drama. (ya sabes como esta la comunidad hoy en dia, piden DQ hasta por el BG ._.) Si estas en duda puedes echarle un ojito a la diff de JBH, es mas, ahi podria ser soft para obtener el sonido de las campanillas.
00:05:491 (1,2) - no quisieras incrementar un poquitin mas de distancia? 1.20x es la distancia que deberia ir mejor acorde a tus proximos patrones como 00:08:239 (3,1,2) -, por eso te recomendaria mover 00:05:491 (1) - hacia x:84
00:12:361 (3) - tiene un sonido de platillo que ameritaria incluso mas distancia de la que ya venias haciendo pero obtaste por reducirla, yo creo que un 1.30x entre 00:11:445 (2,3) - se veria genial ya que estas usando 1.40x en el kiai y asi mantendrias una diferencia notoria entre una parte tranquila con la mas intensa, para arreglar eso yo te recomendaria mover 00:05:491 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - hacia la derecha, de tal manera que la distancia proxima respecto a 00:12:361 (3) - sea de 1.30x como ya te lo habia sugerido.
00:12:361 (3,1) - Intercambia el New Combo, en 00:12:361 - es mas apropiado.
00:17:857 (1) - no quieres acabar el spin en 00:19:231 - y enfatizar el sonido fuerte en 00:19:689 - con una nota? en caso de que te animes, dicha note deberia ir en x:304
00:42:590 (2,1) - por consistencia aca tambien deberia ir una distancia de 1.40x, para mantener todos tus distancia y no trabajes de nuevo, te recomiendo mover 00:43:506 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - hacia la izquierda, de tal manera que la distancia proxima sea 1.40x
00:47:170 (1) - estaria bien si no tuvieras 00:49:460 (1,1) - despues, muy aparte de todas las sugerencias que te di anteriormente, creo que esta es la mas importante, ya sabes trabajar con distancias asi que las posiciones te la dejare a ti, pero se veria mucho mejor si usar un slider desde 00:47:170 - hasta 00:48:086 -, luego solo te quedaria agregar una nota en 00:48:544 - y jalar 00:49:460 (1) - hacia 00:49:002 - para agregarle un reverse, eso si, ten cuidado con los Hitsounds, recuerda muy bien sus posiciones.
Me sorprende como has mejorado, una diff muy limpia y ordenada, sigue asi, necesitamos mas mappers como tu para aumentar la calidad del mapeo en ctb. Muy buen trabajo.

Salad

00:07:552 (4,5) - add more distance, around 2.00x to 2.50x like 00:05:491 (2,3) - 00:09:155 (2,3) - 00:11:216 (4,5) -, consistency pls.
00:26:101 (3,1,2) - I'm wonder because there is a cymbal sound at 00:27:017 - and u added more distance between 00:27:017 (1,2) -, why? 00:26:101 (3,1) - deserve more distance imo.
00:23:353 (1) - change into note, consistency with 00:21:521 (1) -
00:34:346 (1) - doesn't necessary to emphasize such sound, I recommend you to change it into one slider from 00:34:346 - to 00:34:575 - and then add a note at 00:34:689 -.
00:40:987 (5,6,1) - here we go with a problem that I found lot of times, 00:41:674 - is stronger than 00:41:445 - but you added more distance between 00:40:987 (5,6) -, increase the distance between 00:41:445 (6,1) - and reduce between 00:40:987 (5,6) - pls.
00:48:544 (2) - finish it at 00:48:773 -, the sound at 00:49:002 - is strong and serve jump.

Platter

00:01:369 (1,2,3) - why this intro is harder than rain? reduce distances pls.
00:05:491 (2,3) - following your own patterns here isn't a good place to add hyperdash, the best place is between 00:06:407 (5,1) -, consistency with 00:07:781 (3,1) -
00:11:216 (2,3) - are you sure about such hyperdash?, I think that is unnecesary cause there isn't strong sound, cymbal sound or something related, consistency with my previous advice too.
00:11:445 (3) - add more curve or make it horizontally, the current one looks like a vertical slider and don't enphasize the sound propertly, 00:07:781 (3) - this one is acceptable but I found the same problem with 00:09:613 (3) -
00:16:025 (1,1) - remove the current hyperdash and add a new one between 00:16:483 (1,1) -, consistency with 00:13:277 (3,4) - and 00:15:109 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
00:20:605 (3) - why long reverse while 00:22:437 (3,4,5) - 00:24:269 (3,4,5) - 00:26:101 (4,5,6) - etc, are enphasizing more instruments? inconsistency.
00:22:895 (5,1) - why hyperdash here if you didn't do at 00:20:605 (3,1) -?
00:25:529 (2) - Unnecessary, consistency with 00:23:697 - 00:21:865 - 00:20:033 - remove pls.
00:27:017 - cymbal sound, here is a good place to add hyperdash, add hyperdash between 00:26:559 (6,1) - pls
00:30:223 - why not note while 00:28:391 - 00:32:055 (5) - etc, have one.
00:32:972 - same as above
00:32:055 (5,1) - you miss a hyperdash here, consistency with 00:28:620 (6,1) - 00:30:452 (6,1) -
00:35:949 (4,1) - you could add hyperdash here too, consistency with 00:37:552 (8,1) -
00:37:094 (6,7,8) - unsightly, also you don't need to move the plate to catch it, for a platter diff it could be too easy imo, add more movement (no distance)
00:41:445 (4,1) - strong sound (cymbal) that deserve hyperdash, is the beginning of the second half of kiai, it could be called consistency with 00:34:117 (5,1) - too
00:43:048 (3,1) - looks better if you add hyperdash to fix spread with Rain.
00:46:254 (1,2,3) - what happened here? keep consistency with your previous patterns pls, remove 00:46:942 (3) - and move 00:46:598 (2) - to 00:46:712 -
Lots of inconsistencies with hyperdashes and structure, try to recheck your diff by yourself or ask for more mods.

Rain

00:14:651 (3,4) - looks better if you swap such objects, 00:15:109 (4) - looks better as slider because the sound is very similar as 00:15:452 (5) -, in the other hand 00:14:651 (3) - looks better as reverse to contrast 00:13:849 (5,6) -.
00:34:346 (1,2,3) - why hyperdash between 00:34:346 (1,2) - when the high pitch is on 00:34:804 -? try to do something like 00:41:674 (1,2,3) - please.
Specially 00:36:178 (1,2,3) - cause transition is weird tbh, 00:38:010 (1,2,3) - same as above too.
00:46:025 (2,1) - don't you want to add hyperdash here? from 00:41:674 - to 00:49:002 - is the most intense part of the song and 00:45:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - feels a longer pattern without hyperdash.

Overdose

from 00:05:033 - to 00:12:361 -, why you are decreasing the intensity of your patterns? what happened at 00:09:613 (3,4,5) -? at least try to add a hyperdash between 00:09:956 (4,5) -, no consistency N 1
00:10:529 (1,2) - is this a platter pattern? why long sliders if the sound have the same intensity from 00:05:033 - to 00:12:361 -? 00:10:529 (1,2) - it might looks nicer if you do something like 00:08:697 (1,2,3) -, no consistency N 2
00:13:506 (7,1,2) - jump should be between 00:13:620 (1,2) -, I don't feel that adding a jump in blue tick could be a good idea, but this is up to you.
00:22:208 (2) - the current position of this slider is wrong, first of all cause the sound at 00:22:208 - doesn't deserve hyperdash, I can't hear a strong sound, same at 00:22:666 -, if you take a look at your previous and next patterns ( 00:20:147 (1) - 00:20:605 (2) - 00:21:521 (1) - 00:22:895 (1) - 00:23:353 (1) - 00:23:811 (2) - etc ) you will notice that you are emphasizing such sound with a movement, to fix it I recommend you to move 00:22:208 (2) - to 00:22:437 -, add a note at 00:22:208 - then remove 00:22:666 (3) - and add a note at 00:22:781 -, try to add a hyperdash between 00:22:781 - and 00:22:895 (1) -. no consistency N 3
00:24:727 (3,1) - add more distance, the current transition feels like stacked.
00:40:758 (5,6) - the distance is too long, try to reduce it a bit please, consistency with 00:39:842 (1,2) -, no consistency N 4
00:44:422 (1,2,3,4) - why not hyperdash if the intensity of the song if the same from 00:43:506 - to 00:47:170 -? At least add a hyperdash between 00:44:651 (2,3) -, also 00:44:422 (1,2) - could be something like 00:43:048 (2,3) -. no consistency N 5
I decided to put the number of inconsistencies to show you what I tried to to said when we talked in game.

I'm still desagree with the current diff names, you are trying to break the identity of our mode, I'm imagine sets without Cup, Salad, Platter and Rain in a near future and people will give this map as an example if we try to say something, It's up to you tbh. I hope QATs will do something about this. About the map, Platter need more improvement, I hope that you will fix it by yourself, if you do that feel free to call me for recheck, if you are in doubt try to ask for more mods.

BoberOfDarkness

1,061 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

BoberOfDarkness 2016-12-19T16:35:54+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Platter
00:01:369 (1,2,3) - why this intro is harder than rain? reduce distances pls. I didn't map the Rain, the diff supposed to be generally easier not in every pattern anyways, fixed
00:05:491 (2,3) - following your own patterns here isn't a good place to add hyperdash, the best place is between 00:06:407 (5,1) -, consistency with 00:07:781 (3,1) - fiixed
00:11:216 (2,3) - are you sure about such hyperdash?, I think that is unnecesary cause there isn't strong sound, cymbal sound or something related, consistency with my previous advice too.
00:11:445 (3) - add more curve or make it horizontally, the current one looks like a vertical slider and don't enphasize the sound propertly, 00:07:781 (3) - this one is acceptable but I found the same problem with 00:09:613 (3) - fixed the first one but I don't understand the what's wrong with 00:09:613 (3) -
00:16:025 (1,1) - remove the current hyperdash and add a new one between 00:16:483 (1,1) -, consistency with 00:13:277 (3,4) - its not consistence with that cause music is much calmer than 00:16:025 (1,1) - and 00:15:109 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - hyper dash to would be too hard 00:16:941 (1) - cause its 1/1 long 1/4 stack
00:20:605 (3) - why long reverse while 00:22:437 (3,4,5) - 00:24:269 (3,4,5) - 00:26:101 (4,5,6) - etc, are enphasizing more instruments? inconsistency. fixed
00:22:895 (5,1) - why hyperdash here if you didn't do at 00:20:605 (3,1) -? fixed
00:25:529 (2) - Unnecessary, consistency with 00:23:697 - 00:21:865 - 00:20:033 - remove pls. fixed
00:27:017 - cymbal sound, here is a good place to add hyperdash, add hyperdash between 00:26:559 (6,1) - pls I don't like idea of re:mapping few patters to put third hyperdash in the next pattern, having no hyper then 3 in row would be an inconsistency
00:30:223 - why not note while 00:28:391 - 00:32:055 (5) - etc, have one. fixed
00:32:972 - same as above there is no place for a note since 00:32:857 (2,3) - is jump not walk
00:32:055 (5,1) - you miss a hyperdash here, consistency with 00:28:620 (6,1) - 00:30:452 (6,1) - I don't feel that hyperdash is necessary here
00:35:949 (4,1) - you could add hyperdash here too, consistency with 00:37:552 (8,1) - that would be too hard
00:37:094 (6,7,8) - unsightly, also you don't need to move the plate to catch it, for a platter diff it could be too easy imo, add more movement (no distance) fixed
00:41:445 (4,1) - strong sound (cymbal) that deserve hyperdash, is the beginning of the second half of kiai, it could be called consistency with 00:34:117 (5,1) - too fixed
00:43:048 (3,1) - looks better if you add hyperdash to fix spread with Rain. fixed
00:46:254 (1,2,3) - what happened here? keep consistency with your previous patterns pls, remove 00:46:942 (3) - and move 00:46:598 (2) - to 00:46:712 - fixed
Lots of inconsistencies with hyperdashes and structure, try to recheck your diff by yourself or ask for more mods.

Overdose
from 00:05:033 - to 00:12:361 -, why you are decreasing the intensity of your patterns? what happened at 00:09:613 (3,4,5) -? at least try to add a hyperdash between 00:09:956 (4,5) -, no consistency N 1
00:10:529 (1,2) - is this a platter pattern? why long sliders if the sound have the same intensity from 00:05:033 - to 00:12:361 -? 00:10:529 (1,2) - it might looks nicer if you do something like 00:08:697 (1,2,3) -, no consistency N 2 if feel that would be too repetitive in pattering and rhythm as well
00:13:506 (7,1,2) - jump should be between 00:13:620 (1,2) -, I don't feel that adding a jump in blue tick could be a good idea, but this is up to you. I don't follow ticks but music, clap sound on 00:13:620 - is much stronger than beat on 00:13:735 - whitetick
00:22:208 (2) - the current position of this slider is wrong, first of all cause the sound at 00:22:208 - doesn't deserve hyperdash, I can't hear a strong sound, same at 00:22:666 -, if you take a look at your previous and next patterns ( 00:20:147 (1) - 00:20:605 (2) - 00:21:521 (1) - 00:22:895 (1) - 00:23:353 (1) - 00:23:811 (2) - etc ) you will notice that you are emphasizing such sound with a movement, to fix it I recommend you to move 00:22:208 (2) - to 00:22:437 -, add a note at 00:22:208 - then remove 00:22:666 (3) - and add a note at 00:22:781 -, try to add a hyperdash between 00:22:781 - and 00:22:895 (1) -. no consistency N 3
00:24:727 (3,1) - add more distance, the current transition feels like stacked.
00:40:758 (5,6) - the distance is too long, try to reduce it a bit please, consistency with 00:39:842 (1,2) -, no consistency N 4
00:44:422 (1,2,3,4) - why not hyperdash if the intensity of the song if the same from 00:43:506 - to 00:47:170 -? At least add a hyperdash between 00:44:651 (2,3) -, also 00:44:422 (1,2) - could be something like 00:43:048 (2,3) -. no consistency N 5
I decided to put the number of inconsistencies to show you what I tried to to said when we talked in game.

no reply = fixed

I'm still desagree with the current diff names, you are trying to break the identity of our mode, I'm imagine sets without Cup, Salad, Platter and Rain in a near future and people will give this map as an example if we try to say something, It's up to you tbh. I hope QATs will do something about this. About the map, Platter need more improvement, I hope that you will fix it by yourself, if you do that feel free to call me for recheck, if you are in doubt try to ask for more mods.

@Jusenkyo we had discusion with Deif JBH and Benny about diffs names and we decided to change diff names to Frost > Sleet > Snowfall > Hail > Blizzard so change it on your diff if you can.

Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-12-19T17:53:26+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Cup
00:01:369 - la linea verde es totalmente innecesaria si vas a ponerle las mismas opciones que la roja, asi que seria bueno si la eliminas antes de causar algun drama. (ya sabes como esta la comunidad hoy en dia, piden DQ hasta por el BG ._.) Si estas en duda puedes echarle un ojito a la diff de JBH, es mas, ahi podria ser soft para obtener el sonido de las campanillas. ]Hecho, decidí eliminar la línea verde y cambiar el Sample de la línea roja por Soft.
00:05:491 (1,2) - no quisieras incrementar un poquitin mas de distancia? 1.20x es la distancia que deberia ir mejor acorde a tus proximos patrones como 00:08:239 (3,1,2) -, por eso te recomendaria mover 00:05:491 (1) - hacia x:84 ]Hecho acorde a tu sugerencia, la diferencia no la veo tan notoria, pero lo haré.
00:12:361 (3) - tiene un sonido de platillo que ameritaria incluso mas distancia de la que ya venias haciendo pero obtaste por reducirla, yo creo que un 1.30x entre 00:11:445 (2,3) - se veria genial ya que estas usando 1.40x en el kiai y asi mantendrias una diferencia notoria entre una parte tranquila con la mas intensa, para arreglar eso yo te recomendaria mover 00:05:491 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - hacia la derecha, de tal manera que la distancia proxima respecto a 00:12:361 (3) - sea de 1.30x como ya te lo habia sugerido.]Todo claro y entendido, hecho.
00:12:361 (3,1) - Intercambia el New Combo, en 00:12:361 - es mas apropiado. ]Hecho.
00:17:857 (1) - no quieres acabar el spin en 00:19:231 - y enfatizar el sonido fuerte en 00:19:689 - con una nota? en caso de que te animes, dicha note deberia ir en x:304 ]Cambiado y aplicado.
00:42:590 (2,1) - por consistencia aca tambien deberia ir una distancia de 1.40x, para mantener todos tus distancia y no trabajes de nuevo, te recomiendo mover 00:43:506 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - hacia la izquierda, de tal manera que la distancia proxima sea 1.40x ]Hecho xD.
00:47:170 (1) - estaria bien si no tuvieras 00:49:460 (1,1) - despues, muy aparte de todas las sugerencias que te di anteriormente, creo que esta es la mas importante, ya sabes trabajar con distancias asi que las posiciones te la dejare a ti, pero se veria mucho mejor si usar un slider desde 00:47:170 - hasta 00:48:086 -, luego solo te quedaria agregar una nota en 00:48:544 - y jalar 00:49:460 (1) - hacia 00:49:002 - para agregarle un reverse, eso si, ten cuidado con los Hitsounds, recuerda muy bien sus posiciones. ]Hecho acorde tus sugerencias.
Me sorprende como has mejorado, una diff muy limpia y ordenada, sigue asi, necesitamos mas mappers como tu para aumentar la calidad del mapeo en ctb. Muy buen trabajo. ]Gracias, aprecio eso, necesitamos más modders como tú, gracias por el mod!

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JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2016-12-19T18:45:35+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Rain
00:14:651 (3,4) - looks better if you swap such objects, 00:15:109 (4) - looks better as slider because the sound is very similar as 00:15:452 (5) -, in the other hand 00:14:651 (3) - looks better as reverse to contrast 00:13:849 (5,6) -. But 00:15:109 (4) - has the stronger 1/4 kick drum/synth sound than 00:14:651 (3) - so the repeat fits better here imo
00:34:346 (1,2,3) - why hyperdash between 00:34:346 (1,2) - when the high pitch is on 00:34:804 -? try to do something like 00:41:674 (1,2,3) - please. I'm hypering for the drum/cymbal, not the synth. The reason 00:42:017 (2,3) - is a hyper is to aid the buildup in emphasis as the song reaches its climax. I want to build intensity slowly so adding an extra hyper here would create an awkward spike
Specially 00:36:178 (1,2,3) - cause transition is weird tbh, 00:38:010 (1,2,3) - same as above too. ^ As above
00:46:025 (2,1) - don't you want to add hyperdash here? from 00:41:674 - to 00:49:002 - is the most intense part of the song and 00:45:338 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - feels a longer pattern without hyperdash. If I added a hyper here I'd have to add one at 00:45:338 (1,2) - too for consistency, and then there would be a huge spike in difficulty with so many hypers. Having a gradual buildup is better for emphasis and spread

We changed the diffnames, hopefully they're clearer now. No-one is destroying the identity of the mode - quite the opposite in fact xD

Thanks for the mod, no changes from me though!

SYAHME

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Joined January 2014

SYAHME 2016-12-20T06:46:57+00:00

I'm okay with those diffs name because bober wrote what is cup, salad and so on in the descriptions.

-Sh1n1-

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-Sh1n1- 2016-12-20T07:51:15+00:00

SYAHME wrote:
I'm okay with those diffs name because bober wrote what is cup, salad and so on in the descriptions.

Because I suggested him...

quick re-check, no kds

Platter

00:12:361 (1,2,3,4) - Irrelevant at gameplay but I feel that is important to your future projects, 00:14:193 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - it is supposed to be a similar pattern right? but take a look to New Combos, they are more than difference, for the first one, adding NC at 00:13:277 - could be good, or the second one, removing the NC at 00:15:567 - could be enough too. As I said before, there are more inconsistencies at NewCombos too but it's irrelevant imo, just take a look if you want more quality in your map.
00:14:193 (1,2) - the current transition feels weird, that's cause there isn't a strong sound at 00:14:880 -, 00:14:880 (2,1) - should be the same distance as 00:15:338 (3,1) - for consistency and reduce the distance between 00:14:193 (1,2) -
00:19:231 - deserve a finish hitsound imo
The idea of 00:26:559 (5,1,2,3) - is add hyperdash between 00:26:559 (5,1) - to enphasize the beginning of a new stanza/cymbal sound/high pitch. In the other hand, why 00:27:017 (1,2) - have hyperdash? if you take a look to your next patterns, 00:28:849 (1,2,3,4) - 00:30:681 (1,2,3) - you are not enphasizing such sounds with hyperdash so it's not necessary.
00:32:972 - ok, you don't want to add note but at least reduce the distance between 00:32:857 (2,3) - a bit?

Rain

I'm still thinking that 00:34:346 (1,2,3) - and 00:43:506 (1,2,3) - are very similar, I don't know where is the difference tbh lol, also drum is at 00:34:804 -, I didn't tell you to add an extra hyper between 00:34:689 (2,3) -, just remove 00:34:346 (1,2) - and add at 00:34:689 (2,3) -
00:36:178 (1,2,3) - 00:38:010 (1,2,3) - same as above.
00:45:567 (2,1) - add hyperdash, consistency with 00:42:017 (2,3) - 00:42:933 (5,6) - 00:43:849 (2,3) - 00:44:765 (7,8) -

Overdose

00:10:529 (1,2) - there isn't a reason to add hyperdash here cause I can't hear a strong sound, keep the slider from 00:11:445 - to 00:11:674 -, then add a note at 00:11:216 -, if you want to keep your hyper dash, I recommend you to put it between 00:11:216 - and 00:11:445 -

@Hyperion: About diffnames, if you think that instead of destroy our identity is "quite the opposite in fact", well I'm not agree, just my opinion, It's sad that qats think so, but don't worry It doesn't affect the ranking process.

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