17:08 Doormat: okay
17:12 Frostings: the chorus right
17:13 Doormat: ye
17:13 Frostings: 00:52:404 (2,3) -
17:13 Frostings: structure here is ehh
17:13 Frostings: I don't think it should be a perfect 180 degree
17:14 Frostings: 2 and 3 are too close together
17:14 Doormat: fair enough
17:15 Frostings:
http://puu.sh/lesxP/1847bb404b.jpg17:15 Frostings: i lessened the curve on both, moved 2 more to the left and rotated it by about 10 degrees
17:15 Doormat: oh yeah that's not bad
17:16 Frostings: think you should just open it up a bit
17:16 Frostings: and move 00:53:056 (4) - accordingly
17:16 Frostings: 00:56:480 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
17:16 Frostings: I think this part is where you have the trouble
17:17 Frostings: 00:57:295 (2) -
17:17 Doormat: yeah i was probably going to take out that repeat slider
17:18 Frostings: move this so it's directly above the slider instead of overlapping it
17:18 Frostings:
http://puu.sh/lesNo/9cac91d6e9.jpg17:18 Doormat: yeah probably a good call
17:19 Frostings: 00:57:622 (3) -
17:19 Frostings: ok you can do a couple things here
17:19 Frostings: the big problem is the slider overlapping with the (6) circle
17:20 Doormat: oh yeah it is
17:20 Doormat: didn't notice that
17:20 Frostings: you could try stacking (3) so that it's tail is ontop of (6)
17:20 Frostings: and then move (6) down so it's the same relative distance as (3)'s tail is to (1)'s tail
17:21 Frostings: or something similar like that
17:21 Frostings: instead of putting it down and right, you can put it down and left
17:21 Doormat: yeahh
17:21 Frostings: that might make it better
17:22 Frostings: actually no
17:22 Frostings: that makes it worse
17:22 Frostings: down and right is good
17:22 Frostings: does that make sense
17:22 Frostings: at all
17:22 Frostings: because it doesn't to me
17:22 Doormat: i'll think about that part some more then i guess
17:25 Frostings: actually just have (6) where it was before
17:25 Frostings: and just stack (3)
17:25 Frostings: 's tail to (6)
17:25 Frostings: pretty good like that
17:26 Doormat: fair enough
17:26 Frostings: 00:01:046 (1,2,3,4,5) -
17:26 Frostings: this is really awkward to play btw
17:26 Frostings: the spacing is too small
17:27 Frostings: 00:44:415 (1) -
17:28 Frostings: the whistle is a good idea
17:28 Frostings: you should extend it so it's on the body as well
17:28 Frostings: but not on the tail
17:28 Frostings: 02:02:676 (1) - same
17:29 Frostings: 03:13:111 (1) - and here
17:29 Frostings: 04:02:839 (4) - and whistle here
17:32 Frostings: 02:37:567 - get rid of kiai
17:32 Frostings: actually you should end kiai here
17:32 Frostings: just like in your first chorus
17:33 Frostings: and extend kiai to here 03:53:219 -
17:33 Frostings: 02:49:306 (1,2) - also super awkward rhythm
17:35 Frostings: 02:39:687 (6,7) - I think these beats need more emphasis than just hitsounds
17:35 Doormat: lol i'm not putting whistles on the body
17:36 Frostings: you're kinda missing the point of the claps in the song by not differentiating them from the normal beat
17:36 Frostings: lol why not
17:36 Frostings: same thing for the rest of the claps in that section
17:36 Doormat: it sounds weird imo =w=
17:36 Doormat: care to explain the claps thing though
17:36 Doormat: i thought it's fine
17:36 Frostings: it sounds weird without the whistle
17:37 Doormat: mm
17:37 Frostings: like you would either have no whistles at all
17:37 Frostings: or have them on the head and body
17:37 Doormat: i still think it's fine for now
17:37 Doormat: i'll probably fix it if a BN or QAT mentions it
17:37 Frostings: because just on the head just sounds bad
17:38 Frostings: like it literally fits perfectly
17:38 Frostings: the song was made specifically so that one day someone would make a slider in that part
17:38 Doormat: 02:49:306 (1,2) - rhythm here is fine imo
17:38 Frostings: with a whistle body there
17:39 Doormat: lol fine fine i'll give it a try then
17:39 Frostings: but
17:39 Frostings: make sure the whistle isn't on the tail
17:39 Frostings: that's important
17:39 Doormat: yeah yeah i know how to do that
17:39 Frostings: uhhhhh
17:39 Frostings: the rhythm
17:40 Frostings: doesn't
17:40 Frostings: make
17:40 Frostings: sense
17:40 Frostings: lol
17:40 Doormat: it's mapped to the percussion tho
17:40 Doormat: sorry not the percussion
17:40 Frostings: actually it's not
17:41 Doormat: that weird unse- sound
17:41 Frostings: there's 5 sounds there
17:41 Frostings: for all 5 1/4 ticks
17:41 Frostings: with emphasis on the 3rd and 5th
17:41 Frostings: which you completely miss xd
17:42 Doormat: yeah i don't hear what you're trying to say
17:43 Frostings: maybe it's your custom hitsounds
17:43 Frostings: 02:49:632 - you gotta map this
17:43 Frostings: so that the player clicks that beat
17:45 Frostings: like if you get rid of the 1/4 entirely
17:45 Frostings: and just map the 1/2 ticks
17:45 Frostings: 3 circles
17:45 Frostings: that plays better
17:46 Frostings: 02:39:687 (6,7) - also with these
17:47 Frostings: you ignore the point of this entire section of the song
17:47 Frostings: because the two exciting sounds
17:47 Frostings: play the same as the normal sounds
17:47 Frostings: I can't tell them apart
17:48 Frostings: if I were to play this map with no mp3
17:48 Frostings: I wouldn't be able to tell there was anything exciting there
17:49 Frostings: you need to map them differently somehow
17:49 Frostings: so that the player can tell them apart
17:49 Frostings: instead of lumping them into one continuous pattern
17:51 Frostings: it could be as simple as stacking them
17:51 Frostings: you just have to make them unique and stand out
17:52 Doormat: hmm yeah
17:52 Doormat: i'll consider stacking them then
17:52 Frostings: whatever you choose to do
17:53 Frostings: make sure it becomes consistent with the rest of the claps in that section
17:53 Frostings: 03:17:839 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - same with this section
17:54 Frostings: you gotta make the snares stand out
17:54 Frostings: first thing to do is change 03:17:839 (1) -
17:54 Frostings: so that you hit the downbeat
17:54 Frostings: instead of having at the end of the slider
17:55 Frostings: and make the strong sounds stand out better
17:55 Frostings: instead of just relying on hitsounds
17:55 Frostings: for emphasis
17:56 Doormat: i think that part is fine actually
17:57 Frostings: 01:02:839 (2,3) - these sliders are too curves
17:57 Frostings: curved
17:57 Frostings: I know you're trying to blanket the slider with the 1
17:57 Frostings: but like
17:57 Frostings: it's
17:57 Frostings: amateur
17:57 Frostings: xddddd
17:58 Doormat: yeahhh
17:58 Doormat: i couldn't really think of anything else
17:58 Doormat: plus it isn't too terrible-
17:58 Frostings: you should try to avoid extensively curved sliders in the future in general
17:59 Frostings: especally in 1/1 sliders
17:59 Frostings: you don't always have to blanket everything
17:59 Frostings: like a noobtrap in mapping
17:59 Frostings: is blankets
18:00 Doormat: yeahhhh
18:00 Frostings: especially blanketing 1/1 sliders
18:00 Frostings: to anything
18:00 Frostings: you learn about blankets and you put them everywhere
18:00 Frostings: because noob modders
18:00 Frostings: tell you to "blanket this" "blanket that"
18:00 Frostings: when in reality
18:01 Frostings: that's how you make your map look
18:01 Frostings: like new mapper level
18:01 Frostings: and generic
18:01 Doormat: yeah i'm slowly getting better at determining whether something is an intended blanket
18:01 Frostings: like I'm saying
18:01 Frostings: there shouldn't be any intended blankets
18:02 Frostings: when you're mapping
18:02 Frostings: you shouldn't be looking for the best place to make the next blanket
18:02 Frostings: that's how you fall into the trap
18:02 Doormat: i probably phrased that in a bad way but yeah
18:02 Doormat: i get what you mean
18:03 Frostings: and your map looks like every other map
18:04 Frostings: a good exercise is to map something using 90% straight sliders
18:04 Frostings: and see what you can come up with
18:04 Frostings: so you can stay away from blankets
18:09 Doormat: fair enough
18:09 Doormat: i took into consideration some of your comments
18:09 Doormat: some things i didn't change that i think are okay for now
18:10 Doormat: but for the most part i think it's better
18:12 Doormat: the whistles on the slider bodies were a good idea though