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BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [OsuMania]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, 14 March, 2019 at 11:20:59 PM

Artist: BanYa & Warak
Title: Beethoven Influenza
Source: PUMP IT UP - 2015 PRIME -
Tags: PIU Remix Ludwig van Beethoven Virus
BPM: 170
Filesize: 6140kb
Play Time: 02:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy - 7Key (1.47 stars, 478 notes)
  2. Hard - 7Key (3.07 stars, 1367 notes)
  3. Infection - 7Key (5.4 stars, 2117 notes)
  4. Insane - 7Key (4.41 stars, 1903 notes)
  5. Normal - 7Key (2.03 stars, 839 notes)
Download: BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza
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Please don't hurt yourself.
Ayachi-
wow
Zan-

ExPew wrote:

No, this is shit
Yes, this is shit
Nanatsu
never forget i got 97% cancer diff before update lol'd
Remillion Cross
this map gave me a cancer, so i should throw my stars to cure myself
Maiz94
#getrekt

Topic Starter
ExPew
lol gile
Spy
dio
dionzz99

ExPew wrote:

lol gile
gile

rank cancer after maniera ranked huehue
SYAHME
Accept the challenge...
GentelGitar
v3 versi rusak kaki...GG :D :D
NXTKitKat
Challenge accepted I guess
Ajunn99
where are the Influenza
Akasha-
prepare boiz
Ayachi-
prepare boiz
Topic Starter
ExPew

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

prepare boiz
cancer is back now
Another Lie

ExPew wrote:

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

prepare boiz
cancer is back now
Akasha-
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don't forget artist should be: BanYa & Warak
Akasha-
irc
2016-09-25 10:08 Kuo Kyoka: lets irc cancer
2016-09-25 10:10 Kuo Kyoka: hmm
2016-09-25 10:11 Kuo Kyoka: 100% sure you need to fix HP
2016-09-25 10:11 Kuo Kyoka: that jack wont last long
2016-09-25 10:11 ExPew: mostly hitsound i 100% refer frpm sample fuck
2016-09-25 10:11 ExPew: from*
2016-09-25 10:11 Kuo Kyoka: i though you copy paste it
2016-09-25 10:11 Kuo Kyoka: not lazy
2016-09-25 10:12 ExPew: hell no
2016-09-25 10:12 Kuo Kyoka: hell yes
2016-09-25 10:13 Kuo Kyoka: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1081672 Banya & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Easy]]
2016-09-25 10:13 ExPew: and probably you need to check it again after i add new SV changes
2016-09-25 10:13 ExPew: on several part
2016-09-25 10:13 Kuo Kyoka: yeah kill me im noob at sv
2016-09-25 10:13 Kuo Kyoka: sv
2016-09-25 10:14 Kuo Kyoka: 00:06:461 (6461|2,6814|1) - how about move them to 1sy?
2016-09-25 10:14 Kuo Kyoka: st*
2016-09-25 10:14 Kuo Kyoka: pitch feel like that imo
2016-09-25 10:15 ExPew: stick on 1st column?
2016-09-25 10:15 Kuo Kyoka: yeah
2016-09-25 10:15 ExPew: soemthing be like this?
2016-09-25 10:15 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmS7O/12f365a23d.jpg
2016-09-25 10:15 Kuo Kyoka: yeah
2016-09-25 10:16 Kuo Kyoka: 3 of them
2016-09-25 10:16 ExPew: k
2016-09-25 10:16 Kuo Kyoka: 00:27:637 (27637|1,29049|1) - move to 3rd for make mirror like 00:24:108 (24108|0,24814|4,25519|0,26225|4) -
2016-09-25 10:17 ExPew: the hell it suppose to be 3rd
2016-09-25 10:18 Kuo Kyoka: 01:05:755 (65755|4,65931|6,66108|4) - hmm make a mirror pattern with 01:05:049 (65049|0,65225|2,65402|0) - would be better imo
2016-09-25 10:19 ExPew: fixed
2016-09-25 10:20 Kuo Kyoka: 01:14:402 - add a note on 5th for melody just like 01:08:755 -
2016-09-25 10:21 ExPew: +1
2016-09-25 10:22 Kuo Kyoka: 01:49:872 (109872|4,110049|3) - sound like 01:48:284 (108284|2,108461|3) - but different timing
2016-09-25 10:22 ExPew: nice catch
2016-09-25 10:22 ExPew: i fixed already
2016-09-25 10:23 ExPew: actually missing melody note
2016-09-25 10:23 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmSxf/d83c601955.jpg
2016-09-25 10:23 Kuo Kyoka: hmm i see
2016-09-25 10:23 Kuo Kyoka: dont forget to fix hs on that part too
2016-09-25 10:24 Kuo Kyoka: 01:53:049 (113049|6) - missing a kick_d
2016-09-25 10:24 Kuo Kyoka: 01:54:108 (114108|1) - snare_L
2016-09-25 10:24 ExPew: no
2016-09-25 10:24 ExPew: it's melody sound
2016-09-25 10:24 ExPew: rather ignore those hitsounds
2016-09-25 10:24 Kuo Kyoka: i see
2016-09-25 10:25 ExPew: btw i want to ask this part
2016-09-25 10:25 ExPew: 01:38:931 -
2016-09-25 10:25 ExPew: this part quite little hard for easy diff???
2016-09-25 10:25 Kuo Kyoka: hmm not really but 656 kinda hard yeah tbh
2016-09-25 10:26 Kuo Kyoka: 01:38:931 (98931|5,99284|5) - move to 7th would easier
2016-09-25 10:26 ExPew: and turns to 4 columns play
2016-09-25 10:26 ExPew: moved
2016-09-25 10:28 Kuo Kyoka: 02:05:402 (125402|6) - change to kick_d
2016-09-25 10:28 Kuo Kyoka: like 02:04:696 (124696|0,124696|3) -
2016-09-25 10:29 ExPew: rekt
2016-09-25 10:30 Kuo Kyoka: 02:31:167 (151167|3,151343|4,151519|3) - this is fine but 02:29:755 (149755|1,149931|0,150108|1,150461|6,150637|5,150814|6) - not them
2016-09-25 10:31 ExPew: oh this
2016-09-25 10:31 ExPew: any idea?
2016-09-25 10:32 Kuo Kyoka: how about rekt http://puu.sh/rmSYX/79f4a71f7b.png
2016-09-25 10:33 ExPew: 2 ln moved on 5th and 7th column
2016-09-25 10:33 ExPew: rest fixed
2016-09-25 10:34 Kuo Kyoka: okay
2016-09-25 10:34 Kuo Kyoka: easy now fine to me
2016-09-25 10:34 ExPew: cuz wants to make end note same with 02:29:755 (149755|0) -
2016-09-25 10:34 ExPew: between this 02:31:872 (151872|6) -
2016-09-25 10:34 Kuo Kyoka: this? http://puu.sh/rmT5F/d22595332d.jpg
2016-09-25 10:34 ExPew: mention about hitsound error
2016-09-25 10:34 ExPew: probably normal has same issue
2016-09-25 10:35 ExPew: yep
2016-09-25 10:35 Kuo Kyoka: hmm maybe
2016-09-25 10:38 Kuo Kyoka: okay
2016-09-25 10:38 Kuo Kyoka: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1081673 Banya & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Normal]]
2016-09-25 10:39 Kuo Kyoka: 00:07:519 (7519|1,7519|5) - move them to 5 and 7 for like the on top?
2016-09-25 10:39 Kuo Kyoka: anyway dont forget to fix BanYa
2016-09-25 10:39 ExPew: oh snap
2016-09-25 10:40 ExPew: i dont giv kudo just like title only
2016-09-25 10:40 ExPew: give full mod later
2016-09-25 10:40 Kuo Kyoka: give me loli, kud suck
2016-09-25 10:40 Kuo Kyoka: i want to go to jail
2016-09-25 10:40 ExPew: u suk dont take my loli
2016-09-25 10:40 ExPew: go away from my jail
2016-09-25 10:41 ExPew: i pay you leave this planet
2016-09-25 10:41 Kuo Kyoka: i will go to jail 2 times for stealing loli and play loli
2016-09-25 10:41 Kuo Kyoka: i pay you to pay me
2016-09-25 10:42 ExPew: ななひら will sue you
2016-09-25 10:42 Kuo Kyoka: bassu to drop bu
2016-09-25 10:43 Kuo Kyoka: want some rekt?
2016-09-25 10:43 Kuo Kyoka: 00:14:225 (14225|5) - actually start on 00:14:402 -
2016-09-25 10:44 Kuo Kyoka: you can try something like this http://puu.sh/rmTxx/1a0b4b04c5.jpg
2016-09-25 10:44 ExPew: this empty timeline 00:14:225 - add wat?
2016-09-25 10:44 ExPew: add sby?
2016-09-25 10:45 Kuo Kyoka: i will explain
2016-09-25 10:46 ExPew: rather follow the melody add a note without a kick
2016-09-25 10:46 ExPew: proabaly
2016-09-25 10:46 Kuo Kyoka: http://puu.sh/rmTCo/89e0610c9a.jpg is different pitch but http://puu.sh/rmTDl/7108e1a3c1.png is same, long sound start match on there 00:14:402 -
2016-09-25 10:47 ExPew: ah i get it
2016-09-25 10:47 ExPew: different pitch
2016-09-25 10:47 Kuo Kyoka: all of them is melody
2016-09-25 10:47 ExPew: sorry i too much hear loli music
2016-09-25 10:47 ExPew: im deaf now
2016-09-25 10:48 Kuo Kyoka: aaa song?
2016-09-25 10:48 Kuo Kyoka: loli moans
2016-09-25 10:48 ExPew: aaa?
2016-09-25 10:49 ExPew: lmao you really a pervert haha
2016-09-25 10:49 ExPew: we played l432
2016-09-25 10:49 ExPew: so you know what it means
2016-09-25 10:50 Kuo Kyoka: angry loli
2016-09-25 10:50 ExPew: tank loli
2016-09-25 10:50 ExPew: smoke weed loli
2016-09-25 10:50 Kuo Kyoka: riding to jail loli
2016-09-25 10:50 ExPew: dark carnival for sure
2016-09-25 10:51 Kuo Kyoka: hh
2016-09-25 10:51 Kuo Kyoka: 00:19:696 (19696|1,19872|1) - same as before
2016-09-25 10:51 ExPew: fixed same issue
2016-09-25 10:52 Kuo Kyoka: 00:36:814 (36814|2) - add crash
2016-09-25 10:52 Kuo Kyoka: 00:41:225 (41225|1) - would better to move to 4th for pitch imo
2016-09-25 10:54 Kuo Kyoka: 01:05:578 - how about on here, because that 1/8 is 2 kind of sound so move them imo http://puu.sh/rmTZh/ff1af87445.jpg
2016-09-25 10:54 ExPew: okay for me but just hitsounds only are same pitch actually music is not
2016-09-25 10:54 ExPew: still fine
2016-09-25 10:54 ExPew: much better
2016-09-25 10:56 Kuo Kyoka: 01:13:255 - add a note on here? personally feel missing
2016-09-25 10:57 ExPew: probably not match on this pattern
2016-09-25 10:57 ExPew: 01:13:167 (73167|1,73343|3,73431|4,73519|5,73696|0,73784|1,73872|2,74049|4) -
2016-09-25 10:57 ExPew: if add this note 01:13:255 -
2016-09-25 10:57 Kuo Kyoka: hmm yeah
2016-09-25 10:58 Kuo Kyoka: 01:52:608 (112608|4) - remove this
2016-09-25 10:58 Kuo Kyoka: 01:52:343 (112343|6,112431|4,112696|6) - these are snare but 01:52:608 (112608|4) - is kick
2016-09-25 10:58 Kuo Kyoka: kinda confused on here
2016-09-25 10:59 Kuo Kyoka: 01:57:858 - add a hold on 5th and end on 01:58:696 - for piano
2016-09-25 10:59 ExPew: shud ignore this kick note
2016-09-25 10:59 ExPew: removed
2016-09-25 11:00 ExPew: ah this timeline will affect on 1/8 later
2016-09-25 11:00 Kuo Kyoka: 02:11:755 (131755|1,131931|1) - change to snare_sp just like 02:10:343 (130343|3,130519|3) -
2016-09-25 11:00 ExPew: added LN
2016-09-25 11:01 Kuo Kyoka: idk
2016-09-25 11:01 Kuo Kyoka: should be on 01:57:814 - or 01:57:858 -
2016-09-25 11:01 Kuo Kyoka: 1/8 more accurate
2016-09-25 11:02 ExPew: the sounds start on 01:57:858 -
2016-09-25 11:02 ExPew: this probably a ghost note
2016-09-25 11:02 ExPew: 01:57:814 -
2016-09-25 11:02 Kuo Kyoka: hmm okay
2016-09-25 11:03 Kuo Kyoka: and fix hs too
2016-09-25 11:03 Kuo Kyoka: 02:14:049 (134049|2) - move to 6th? kind block here i think
2016-09-25 11:03 ExPew: yep for sure
2016-09-25 11:04 Kuo Kyoka: okay normal is fine now
2016-09-25 11:07 Kuo Kyoka: 00:18:990 (18990|1) - idk why on sample have this snare_d sound lol
2016-09-25 11:07 Kuo Kyoka: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/692727 Banya & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Hard]]
2016-09-25 11:09 ExPew: don't ask me
2016-09-25 11:09 ExPew: the sample fault
2016-09-25 11:09 Kuo Kyoka: hh
2016-09-25 11:09 Kuo Kyoka: but better remove it for good
2016-09-25 11:09 Kuo Kyoka: idk it on there in first place
2016-09-25 11:09 Kuo Kyoka: last time i check it not on there
2016-09-25 11:11 ExPew: maybe a silly guy add this
2016-09-25 11:11 ExPew: some random shit mistake
2016-09-25 11:11 Kuo Kyoka: 00:14:225 (14225|6) - same normal, split them like http://puu.sh/rmUJS/852262b16b.jpg
2016-09-25 11:11 Kuo Kyoka: only us lmao
2016-09-25 11:11 ExPew: hahahah
2016-09-25 11:11 Kuo Kyoka: 00:19:872 (19872|0) - same too
2016-09-25 11:12 ExPew: fixed
2016-09-25 11:14 Kuo Kyoka: how about move them to 2nd 01:20:755 (80755|0,81108|0,81461|0,81814|0) -
2016-09-25 11:14 Kuo Kyoka: this jack feel hard
2016-09-25 11:14 Kuo Kyoka: 01:19:167 - kinda different with other
2016-09-25 11:15 ExPew: oh that pattern
2016-09-25 11:15 ExPew: i refer from 2004 pattern
2016-09-25 11:15 Kuo Kyoka: 12 years
2016-09-25 11:15 Kuo Kyoka: it's fine
2016-09-25 11:15 ExPew: lmao
2016-09-25 11:15 ExPew: not fine
2016-09-25 11:16 Kuo Kyoka: but hard for adv players
2016-09-25 11:16 Kuo Kyoka: lmao
2016-09-25 11:17 ExPew: changed
2016-09-25 11:17 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmV0o/219d8ce228.png
2016-09-25 11:18 ExPew: so i need to make new pattern at this part
2016-09-25 11:18 ExPew: 01:24:814 -
2016-09-25 11:18 Kuo Kyoka: lol
2016-09-25 11:18 Kuo Kyoka: this pattern feel better
2016-09-25 11:19 ExPew: if not change this
2016-09-25 11:19 Kuo Kyoka: http://puu.sh/rmV7t/eee58a5425.jpg
2016-09-25 11:19 Kuo Kyoka: just suggestion
2016-09-25 11:19 ExPew: this rhythm feel weird
2016-09-25 11:20 ExPew: did you mirror this suggestion?
2016-09-25 11:20 Kuo Kyoka: kinda of but still fit with rhythm
2016-09-25 11:20 ExPew: i got an idea
2016-09-25 11:21 Kuo Kyoka: 76767575
2016-09-25 11:21 ExPew: this pattern kinda same with previous measure line
2016-09-25 11:21 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmVcj/b6fe6fed04.png
2016-09-25 11:22 Kuo Kyoka: yeah it would be help
2016-09-25 11:26 Kuo Kyoka: 01:45:725 (105725|2,105725|0,105902|2,105902|0) -
2016-09-25 11:26 Kuo Kyoka: i think it should be on 1/1 and 1/2 instead
2016-09-25 11:26 Kuo Kyoka: feel weird for rhythm
2016-09-25 11:27 ExPew: like this?
2016-09-25 11:27 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmVvc/7721a5abb5.png
2016-09-25 11:28 Kuo Kyoka: hmm maybe better
2016-09-25 11:28 ExPew: or ? http://puu.sh/rmVy7/7bc55801e4.png
2016-09-25 11:28 Kuo Kyoka: yeah that would help
2016-09-25 11:29 Kuo Kyoka: http://puu.sh/rmVzB/1c71595508.jpg
2016-09-25 11:32 Kuo Kyoka: wow
2016-09-25 11:32 Kuo Kyoka: the rest of hard is perfect, love it
2016-09-25 11:34 ExPew: that really hard
2016-09-25 11:34 ExPew: f you want
2016-09-25 11:34 ExPew: lmao
2016-09-25 11:34 ExPew: ok
2016-09-25 11:34 Kuo Kyoka: hh
2016-09-25 11:35 Kuo Kyoka: 00:14:225 (14225|4,14225|6) - same as other
2016-09-25 11:35 Kuo Kyoka: 00:19:872 (19872|2,19872|0) -
2016-09-25 11:36 ExPew: what the hell
2016-09-25 11:38 Kuo Kyoka: 00:45:637 - missing a note for snare
2016-09-25 11:39 ExPew: same too
2016-09-25 11:39 ExPew: 00:44:931 -
2016-09-25 11:41 ExPew: 01:10:696 -
2016-09-25 11:42 ExPew: pattern changed
2016-09-25 11:42 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmW7z/8e2a33b96d.png
2016-09-25 11:42 Kuo Kyoka: hmm i just wondering this part also
2016-09-25 11:42 Kuo Kyoka: yeah it would be better
2016-09-25 11:43 Kuo Kyoka: offset
2016-09-25 11:43 Kuo Kyoka: feel like 1528
2016-09-25 11:43 ExPew: sb
2016-09-25 11:44 Kuo Kyoka: hh
2016-09-25 11:44 ExPew: offset later point
2016-09-25 11:44 ExPew: i lazy fix
2016-09-25 11:44 Kuo Kyoka: 01:26:940 (86940|2) - move to 7th
2016-09-25 11:44 Kuo Kyoka: for balance
2016-09-25 11:44 Kuo Kyoka: i will fix for you later
2016-09-25 11:44 Kuo Kyoka: offset
2016-09-25 11:44 ExPew: not balance
2016-09-25 11:44 ExPew: kek
2016-09-25 11:44 ExPew: 01:26:931 (86931|2,86931|4,87019|3) -
2016-09-25 11:44 ExPew: 01:27:284 (87284|4,87284|6,87372|5) -
2016-09-25 11:46 Kuo Kyoka: feeling better imo
2016-09-25 11:47 Kuo Kyoka: ofc your choice
2016-09-25 11:48 Kuo Kyoka: 01:57:814 (117814|5) -
2016-09-25 11:48 Kuo Kyoka: what do you think on here
2016-09-25 11:48 ExPew: fucking ghost ofc
2016-09-25 11:49 Kuo Kyoka: blame composer for not add piano on there
2016-09-25 11:49 Kuo Kyoka: anyway fix 01:57:814 (117814|6) - on hard too
2016-09-25 11:50 ExPew: fixed
2016-09-25 11:50 ExPew: hard just LN
2016-09-25 11:51 ExPew: do you think this pattern too hard?
2016-09-25 11:51 ExPew: 02:26:931 (146931|1,146931|4,146931|6,147019|2,147019|5,147019|0,147196|1,147196|6,147196|4,147284|0,147284|5,147284|2) -
2016-09-25 11:51 ExPew: kinda harder than cancer
2016-09-25 11:52 Kuo Kyoka: testplay
2016-09-25 11:52 Kuo Kyoka: it's easy actually
2016-09-25 11:55 Kuo Kyoka: almost forgot to check sv
2016-09-25 11:55 Kuo Kyoka: play is fine
2016-09-25 11:56 Kuo Kyoka: 02:13:696 (133696|0,133784|2,133872|0,133917|2,133961|0,134005|2) - seem hard
2016-09-25 11:57 ExPew: like this?http://puu.sh/rmWMP/7a74369421.png
2016-09-25 11:58 Kuo Kyoka: hmm that up head 13 57 is hard combined with that 1/8
2016-09-25 11:58 Kuo Kyoka: but it's fine to play if someone experience at it
2016-09-25 12:00 ExPew: this should be work
2016-09-25 12:00 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmWX2/b8beebb42b.png
2016-09-25 12:01 Kuo Kyoka: yup look better
2016-09-25 12:01 ExPew: X pattern
2016-09-25 12:01 Kuo Kyoka: xi
2016-09-25 12:01 ExPew: ban xi
2016-09-25 12:02 Kuo Kyoka: the rest are fine to me
2016-09-25 12:02 ExPew: aite lets face real deal
2016-09-25 12:03 Kuo Kyoka: okay lets go
2016-09-25 12:03 Kuo Kyoka: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1035203 Banya & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Sample F]]
2016-09-25 12:03 ExPew: ??????????
2016-09-25 12:03 ExPew: wtf
2016-09-25 12:03 Kuo Kyoka: ctrl + a + del
2016-09-25 12:03 Kuo Kyoka: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/663668 Banya & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Cancer]]
2016-09-25 12:05 Kuo Kyoka: 00:06:461 (6461|3,6461|0,6461|6) - remove a note if you follow rhythm only
2016-09-25 12:10 Kuo Kyoka: 00:26:225 (26225|4,26225|6,26225|3) -
2016-09-25 12:10 Kuo Kyoka: remove a note hmm feel like only have small hihat here + banjo
2016-09-25 12:11 ExPew: remove 7th col note
2016-09-25 12:11 ExPew: also on next part too
2016-09-25 12:11 Kuo Kyoka: 00:29:049 (29049|4,29049|3,29049|6) - same
2016-09-25 12:11 Kuo Kyoka: lol yea
2016-09-25 12:12 Kuo Kyoka: 00:34:872 (34872|5) - move to 4th for like 00:34:167 (34167|3,34519|3,35225|3) - ?
2016-09-25 12:13 ExPew: ok
2016-09-25 12:16 Kuo Kyoka: 00:37:872 - missing a note here
2016-09-25 12:16 Kuo Kyoka: 00:39:284 - like
2016-09-25 12:17 Kuo Kyoka: 00:50:402 - missing a note for bass too
2016-09-25 12:17 Kuo Kyoka: 00:51:814 - same
2016-09-25 12:18 ExPew: missing cello
2016-09-25 12:19 Kuo Kyoka: 00:56:225 - add a note on here for snare if that hold is another sound
2016-09-25 12:19 Kuo Kyoka: 00:59:049 -
2016-09-25 12:19 ExPew: 00:50:402 - there no cello here
2016-09-25 12:19 Kuo Kyoka: 01:01:872 -
2016-09-25 12:19 ExPew: wat wat
2016-09-25 12:20 Kuo Kyoka: you mean instrument?
2016-09-25 12:20 Kuo Kyoka: okay i got it
2016-09-25 12:20 Kuo Kyoka: i thought you added bass snare 2 notes
2016-09-25 12:20 ExPew: snare?
2016-09-25 12:20 ExPew: 00:56:225 (56225|3) -
2016-09-25 12:20 ExPew: depends on rhythm
2016-09-25 12:20 Kuo Kyoka: sorry my mistake
2016-09-25 12:20 ExPew: this part quite relaxing
2016-09-25 12:20 ExPew: 00:55:167 -
2016-09-25 12:21 ExPew: dont get fooled by this 3 notes
2016-09-25 12:21 ExPew: 00:58:343 -
2016-09-25 12:22 Kuo Kyoka: blind by cancerous
2016-09-25 12:22 ExPew: it's a cancer
2016-09-25 12:23 ExPew: i worried at this part
2016-09-25 12:23 ExPew: 02:25:519 -
2016-09-25 12:24 Kuo Kyoka: 01:13:431 (73431|3) - move to 3rd?
2016-09-25 12:24 Kuo Kyoka: hmmm
2016-09-25 12:24 Kuo Kyoka: tbh it's too hard
2016-09-25 12:24 Kuo Kyoka: even harder than 02:32:931 -
2016-09-25 12:24 ExPew: 01:13:431 (73431|3,73784|3) -
2016-09-25 12:24 ExPew: 3 and 5
2016-09-25 12:24 ExPew: yes
2016-09-25 12:25 Kuo Kyoka: play some bms chart have this pattern but 1/4
2016-09-25 12:25 Kuo Kyoka: just too hard for fingers, maybe rearrange it
2016-09-25 12:26 ExPew: gonna ask jin this problem
2016-09-25 12:26 Kuo Kyoka: 01:21:284 (81284|0,81284|2) - should be same with 01:18:461 (78461|2) -
2016-09-25 12:26 ExPew: haha
2016-09-25 12:26 Kuo Kyoka: lmao
2016-09-25 12:26 ExPew: lol wat
2016-09-25 12:26 ExPew: 01:21:284 (81284|2) -
2016-09-25 12:26 ExPew: empty
2016-09-25 12:27 Kuo Kyoka: http://puu.sh/rmY31/ea509771c1.jpg
2016-09-25 12:27 ExPew: done
2016-09-25 12:30 Kuo Kyoka: 01:27:725 (87725|3,87814|2,87902|1,87990|0,87990|3,88167|1,88167|2,88343|0,88343|3) - how about continue that violin
2016-09-25 12:32 ExPew: done
2016-09-25 12:32 Kuo Kyoka: eh shit i regret
2016-09-25 12:32 ExPew: old diff keeps violin on
2016-09-25 12:32 Kuo Kyoka: i forgot this part i will die
2016-09-25 12:32 ExPew: http://puu.sh/rmYfx/18b6064b27.png
2016-09-25 12:33 Kuo Kyoka: nah i mean use long note for violin
2016-09-25 12:33 Kuo Kyoka: like 01:27:196 (87196|4,87284|2,87372|0,87461|4,87549|2,87637|0) -
2016-09-25 12:34 ExPew: kek
2016-09-25 12:37 Kuo Kyoka: 01:57:814 (117814|5) - kind of ruin the patter
2016-09-25 12:37 Kuo Kyoka: if remove
2016-09-25 12:40 Kuo Kyoka: 02:02:225 (122225|1,122314|1,122402|1,122490|1,122578|5,122667|5,122755|5,122843|5) - what do you think
2016-09-25 12:40 Kuo Kyoka: imo i would move them to 3 5
2016-09-25 12:41 ExPew: cause 1 3 and 5 7 already too much used
2016-09-25 12:41 ExPew: let 2 and 6 col use this part
2016-09-25 12:41 Kuo Kyoka: while this part is kinda hard with jack so better move this to 4th
2016-09-25 12:41 Kuo Kyoka: same with 02:23:402 (143402|3) -
2016-09-25 12:42 Kuo Kyoka: i see
2016-09-25 12:42 ExPew: jack on 4th rekt
2016-09-25 12:42 ExPew: im fine with this note
2016-09-25 12:42 ExPew: 02:23:402 (143402|3) -
2016-09-25 12:43 ExPew: right thumb player still can
2016-09-25 12:43 ExPew: except this
2016-09-25 12:43 ExPew: 02:30:990 (150990|3,151078|3,151167|4) -
2016-09-25 12:43 Kuo Kyoka: i mean 02:21:990 (141990|4) - move this only
2016-09-25 12:43 ExPew: oh k
2016-09-25 12:43 ExPew: moved
2016-09-25 12:44 Kuo Kyoka: 02:25:519 (145519|6,145519|0,145608|6,145608|0,145696|6,145696|0,145784|6,145784|0,145872|6,145872|0,145961|6,145961|0,146049|6,146049|0,146137|6,146137|0,146225|6,146225|0,146314|6,146314|0,146402|6,146402|0,146490|6,146490|0) -
2016-09-25 12:44 Kuo Kyoka: how about this
2016-09-25 12:44 Kuo Kyoka: wait for jin?
2016-09-25 12:44 ExPew: dont as this
2016-09-25 12:44 ExPew: maybe i ask jin for this
2016-09-25 12:44 Kuo Kyoka: okay the rest are fine to me
2016-09-25 12:44 Kuo Kyoka: only that part left
2016-09-25 12:44 Kuo Kyoka: where jin
2016-09-25 12:44 ExPew: this part also i cant fv
2016-09-25 12:44 ExPew: fc
2016-09-25 12:45 ExPew: idk
2016-09-25 12:46 ExPew: go fuck post this i want give candy
2016-09-25 12:47 Kuo Kyoka: lmao hh
2016-09-25 12:47 Kuo Kyoka: no candy
2016-09-25 12:47 Kuo Kyoka: i want loli
2016-09-25 12:47 ExPew: BanYa sint?
2016-09-25 12:47 ExPew: isnt*
2016-09-25 12:47 Kuo Kyoka: yup
2016-09-25 12:47 Kuo Kyoka: Pump It Up Prime 2015 for source
2016-09-25 12:48 ExPew: prime 2015 just put on tag
2016-09-25 12:48 ExPew: originally game still PIU
2016-09-25 12:48 ExPew: like beatmania IIDX
2016-09-25 12:48 Kuo Kyoka: but the game used this is name prime 2015 too
2016-09-25 12:48 Kuo Kyoka: ah i see
2016-09-25 12:49 ExPew: but idk sound voltex they put on full
2016-09-25 12:49 Kuo Kyoka: hmm yeah
2016-09-25 12:49 ExPew: same as BMS
2016-09-25 12:49 Kuo Kyoka: http://www.piugame.com/
2016-09-25 12:49 ExPew: should BOFU2014
2016-09-25 12:49 Kuo Kyoka: http://puu.sh/rmYXg/65e74495a5.jpg
2016-09-25 12:50 Kuo Kyoka: BOFU is an event if im correct
2016-09-25 12:50 ExPew: oh that original composer B' virus
2016-09-25 12:50 Kuo Kyoka: yeah
2016-09-25 12:50 ExPew: +warak = cancer
2016-09-25 12:51 ExPew: i just discovered PIU
2016-09-25 12:51 ExPew: on 2015
2016-09-25 12:52 ExPew: so idk PIU older
2016-09-25 12:52 Kuo Kyoka: Stepmania 2015
2016-09-25 12:53 ExPew: lmao
2016-09-25 12:53 ExPew: nice meme
2016-09-25 12:53 Kuo Kyoka: wait
2016-09-25 12:53 Kuo Kyoka: Pump It Up 2015 Prime is correct one
2016-09-25 12:53 Kuo Kyoka: http://puu.sh/rmZ6h/d99525cde7.jpg
2016-09-25 12:54 ExPew: oh
2016-09-25 12:54 ExPew: ok
2016-09-25 12:54 ExPew: maybe old ver already get off the shit
2016-09-25 12:54 Kuo Kyoka: lel
2016-09-25 12:55 Kuo Kyoka: tag remove beethoven and prime 2015
2016-09-25 12:55 Kuo Kyoka: after you update i will fix offset
Topic Starter
ExPew
updated

[EDIT]

update 15/10

-Rename Cancer to Infection
-HP drain reduced from 9.4 to 9.2
-fix un-fcable column jack at 02:25:527 - from 1 | 7 jack moved to 2 | 6 (this jack is fcable by play normally or some trick. used 2 fingerstream)
-fix weird pattern at 01:38:939 - make same pattern at 01:50:233 -
Akasha-
BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [OsuMania modding]


[Generals]
- BPM: Okay
- Offset: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Tags: Okay
- BG: Okay
- Kiai: Okay
- Metadata: Okay
- Folder’s problem: None
- Hitsound: Okay
- Timing: Okay
- Other: Okay

Bubbled
(Cancer)

Congratulations!
Another Lie
congrats cancer
Jinjin
Cancer hype
Arzenvald
OH YES the legend is back
don't see anything wrong too, good luck!
Topic Starter
ExPew

ajeemaniz wrote:

OH YES the legend is back
don't see anything wrong too, good luck!

thanks ,if you see anything weird tell me, i still don't want to qualify yet for now

Jinjin wrote:

Cancer hype
waiting your alter ego
Kawawa
OK!
17:21 Kawawa: okay let's goo
17:21 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1081672 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Easy]]
17:21 ExPew: asdf'
17:22 Kawawa: btw, I want to nerf the SR this diff.
17:22 Kawawa: because It looks normal Icon on web
17:22 Kawawa: what do you think about?
17:22 ExPew: try it
17:22 ExPew: cause i have no idea to reduce it
17:22 Kawawa: okay.
17:24 Kawawa: 00:14:116 (14116|2,14233|0,15527|2,15645|0) - you want to keep all 1/3 those things?
17:24 Kawawa: I just saw the dq reason recently that 1/4 used on easy diff.
17:24 Kawawa: but It's 1/3th, so I just want to ask about it once.
17:25 ExPew: nw ru;e?
17:25 ExPew: new rule?*
17:25 Kawawa: It's not rule.
17:25 Kawawa: but recently, that was dq reason.
17:25 ExPew: okau
17:25 ExPew: should i remove it the 1/3
17:26 Kawawa: hmmm I recommend that.
17:26 Kawawa: remove them
17:26 Kawawa: 00:14:116 (14116|2,15527|2,16939|2) -
17:26 Kawawa: 00:19:763 (19763|2,21175|2,22586|2) -
17:27 Kawawa: 00:39:645 (39645|2,39998|6,40351|2,40704|6) - Just a suggestion. what do you think about change the column like 7474
17:28 ExPew: great
17:28 ExPew: looks like 1 mreasure line doesnt follow the pattern on previosuly
17:28 Kawawa: yeah.
17:29 Kawawa: I think you can make easy in this part 00:53:763 (53763|1,53939|1,54116|5,54292|1,54469|1,54645|4,54822|6,54998|4) -
17:29 Kawawa: remove this 00:54:645 (54645|4,54998|4) - , and just focus on drum. 00:54:822 (54822|6) -
17:29 Kawawa: or
17:30 Kawawa: 00:53:763 (53763|1,53939|1,54292|1,54469|1) - remove them, and make a LN here 00:53:763 -
17:30 ExPew: still too hard?
17:30 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sENRt/2f3b06e12b.png
17:31 Kawawa: wait.
17:31 Kawawa: 1 http://puu.sh/sENTM/789feed014.jpg
17:31 Kawawa: 2 http://puu.sh/sENTb/3a545c29cb.jpg
17:31 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sENTV/a89d090467.png or?
17:31 Kawawa: oh. that also good.
17:32 ExPew: (Y)
17:33 Kawawa: 01:32:939 (92939|3,93116|0) - move 3, 5?
17:34 Kawawa: I mean 01:32:939 (92939|3) - this 3 01:33:116 (93116|0) - is 5
17:35 Kawawa: maybe, you need to add a note here 01:44:410 - This is same structure with 01:33:116 -
17:35 ExPew: doesnt looks well here
17:35 ExPew: 01:33:116 (93116|4,93292|5) -
17:35 ExPew: after chged
17:35 Kawawa: alright.
17:35 ExPew: how this?http://puu.sh/sEO2l/fe1f3628a1.png
17:36 Kawawa: It's okay, but It strikes left hands.
17:36 Kawawa: or just keep old patterns.
17:37 Kawawa: And 01:44:410 - here add a note?
17:37 Kawawa: becuase same with 01:33:116 -
17:37 ExPew: i remove this note also fine
17:37 ExPew: 01:33:116 -
17:37 Kawawa: alright.
17:37 Kawawa: cool.
17:38 Kawawa: 01:51:645 (111645|3) - reduce the LN till 01:52:351 - consitency with normal LN.
17:38 Kawawa: And add a note here.
17:38 Kawawa: 01:52:351 -
17:38 Kawawa: but you can keep If you want.
17:39 ExPew: add snare
17:39 ExPew: added*
17:39 Kawawa: btw, I can't nerf this diff
17:39 Kawawa: lol
17:39 Kawawa: how to nerf.
17:39 ExPew: looks weel
17:39 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sEOaT/300e491c7a.png
17:39 Kawawa: okay.
17:39 ExPew: well*
17:40 ExPew: try nerf this part
17:40 ExPew: 01:39:469 -
17:40 ExPew: i think quite hard
17:40 Kawawa: okay.
17:41 ExPew: wait your idea, for my current changed http://puu.sh/sEOe2/25fe25c99c.png
17:41 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sEOew/f55cec6bbd.jpg
17:42 ExPew: pretty good
17:42 ExPew: used your
17:42 Kawawa: SR now?
17:42 Kawawa: 1.51?
17:42 ExPew: yes
17:42 Kawawa: 00:47:057 (47057|5,47233|5,47763|5,47939|5) - change 55 77
17:42 Kawawa: then will be 1.50
17:43 Kawawa: but still need nerf 0.01
17:43 Kawawa: 1.49
17:43 Kawawa: till
17:43 Kawawa: If you can change the some same colume patterns, It will be nerf'd
17:43 Kawawa: a bit.
17:44 ExPew: 1.5 now
17:44 Kawawa: 02:14:057 (134057|5,134233|1) - move to 4,6?
17:44 ExPew: i dont think it suitable for 1/2 LN here
17:45 ExPew: try fing another sound different
17:45 Kawawa: I see.
17:45 ExPew: removed 1/2 ln
17:45 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sEOe2/25fe25c99c.png
17:45 Kawawa: but you can keep. I'm sure.
17:45 Kawawa: that feels pretty good to me.
17:46 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sEOe2/25fe25c99c.png
17:46 Kawawa: why you gave me this image again?
17:46 ExPew: 1.48 now
17:46 Kawawa: ?_?
17:46 Kawawa: nice.
17:46 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sEOn0/b52245b75d.jpg * sorry
17:46 ExPew: too fast copy
17:46 Kawawa: good.
17:46 Kawawa: okay easy done.
17:47 Kawawa: that's all.
17:47 Kawawa: btw.
17:47 Kawawa: volume 10% -> 30%
17:47 Kawawa: what do you think?
17:48 Kawawa: Also disable the widescreen support on all difficulties.
17:49 ExPew: ok
17:49 Kawawa: okay when fixed all difficulites, tell me.
17:49 Kawawa: let's contiune to normal diff mod
17:49 ExPew: ayy i forgot to chg vol in general
17:51 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1081673 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Normal]]
17:53 Kawawa: 00:46:704 - Add a note here? Because 2notes used on easy diff.
17:53 Kawawa: but If you focused on main instrument, It's okay.
17:55 Kawawa: 00:49:175 (49175|0,49351|4,49439|5,49527|6) - This feel weird a bit to me. If you did not use here 00:49:263 - , you can make the LN as bundle this one 00:49:175 (49175|0) -
17:56 ExPew: done
17:56 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sEOI9/e4b5b52d21.jpg
17:56 Kawawa: 00:50:586 (50586|6) - same with above.
17:56 Kawawa: 00:55:175 - Add a note. easy diff used 2 here.
17:56 ExPew: actually it's not melody i focused
17:57 Kawawa: but players can feel the main melody first.
17:57 Kawawa: because that's the main rhythm in this part.
17:57 Kawawa: but both are fine to me
17:57 Kawawa: anything It's okay.
17:57 ExPew: i let it first then
17:58 ExPew: cause it make confused me lmao
17:58 Kawawa: I see haha
17:58 Kawawa: okay continue. 00:55:175 - add a note here?
17:58 Kawawa: 01:04:704 (64704|4,64880|4) - move to 44. looks better.
17:59 ExPew: alright
17:59 ExPew: movedf
18:00 ExPew: added for crash sound
18:00 Kawawa: 01:23:410 - 01:24:822 - add a note here too?
18:00 Kawawa: also add crash hitsound here 01:24:822 -
18:02 Kawawa: normal, that's all
18:04 Kawawa: /np
18:04 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/692727 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Hard]]
18:04 Kawawa: 00:34:880 (34880|5,34969|4,35057|1,35057|5,35145|2,35233|5,35322|6,35410|5) - that's cool. I like it.
18:05 ExPew: i got few change on normal
18:05 Kawawa: okay.
18:05 ExPew: you can check this part after update
18:05 ExPew: 01:30:469 -
18:05 Kawawa: alright.
18:06 ExPew: xd i did fit on rhythm
18:08 Kawawa: If you want to chnage some, you can free to change.
18:09 ExPew: sure
18:09 Kawawa: seems I can't touch Hard diff.
18:09 Kawawa: pretty good.
18:10 ExPew: lmao
18:10 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sEPcT/2aeac83ade.jpg
18:10 Kawawa: btw, I wondering one thing
18:11 Kawawa: 01:55:880 (115880|4,116586|2) - This LN are feel shorter.
18:11 Kawawa: I mean till 01:56:057 -
18:11 Kawawa: If you can compared with other LNs like 02:04:351 (124351|5,125057|1) -
18:11 Kawawa: 02:11:410 (131410|4,132116|1) -
18:12 Kawawa: 01:55:880 (115880|4,116586|2) - what do you think about? this LN
18:12 Kawawa: only this two feels shorter.
18:12 ExPew: you want shorter 1/2?
18:12 Kawawa: hmmm
18:12 ExPew: 01:55:880 (115880|4) - *
18:12 Kawawa: no. I want to keep that length.
18:13 Kawawa: but something feel shorter hm
18:13 Kawawa: depend on you.
18:13 Kawawa: anyway It can be played smoothly
18:13 ExPew: suitable for 1/1 ln
18:14 Kawawa: yeah
18:14 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1080904 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Insane]]
18:14 ExPew: easier to read i guess
18:15 Kawawa: OH.
18:15 Kawawa: I noticed now.
18:15 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1081673 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Normal]]
18:15 ExPew: the LN?
18:15 Kawawa: you added note normal diff only here. 00:42:822 -
18:15 Kawawa: yeah.
18:15 ExPew: hhhhh
18:15 Kawawa: It's a intention?
18:16 Kawawa: because I could see it on all diffs
18:16 Kawawa: could not*
18:16 Kawawa: and
18:16 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/692727 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Hard]]
18:16 Kawawa: 00:42:469 (42469|4) -
18:16 Kawawa: It used LN on hard diff only
18:16 Kawawa: on this section.
18:16 Kawawa: 00:42:469 -
18:16 ExPew: because insane has SV change there
18:16 Kawawa: Oh.
18:16 Kawawa: I see.
18:17 Kawawa: then Normal diff LN is?
18:17 ExPew: which better? to add notes or let it empty?
18:17 Kawawa: I think empty is better.
18:17 Kawawa: because looks more intention, and consitency with all diff
18:22 ExPew: can you check snap here?
18:22 Kawawa: 02:17:939 - Add a note here?
18:22 Kawawa: seems missing
18:22 Kawawa: which part?
18:22 ExPew: added
18:22 ExPew: 01:07:880 -
18:23 ExPew: this quite tricky snap if you follow the violin
18:23 Kawawa: that main melody?
18:23 Kawawa: yeah violin
18:23 ExPew: like 1/6 1/12
18:23 Kawawa: It's 1/4th
18:24 ExPew: you hear by earphone?
18:24 Kawawa: yeah, of course.
18:24 Kawawa: I know what you said.
18:24 Kawawa: but I mean.
18:24 Kawawa: because these case of instrument are always delayed on start sound.
18:25 Kawawa: but It's really 1/4th.
18:25 ExPew: alright
18:25 Kawawa: because
18:25 Kawawa: 01:08:586 -
18:25 Kawawa: 01:08:675 - 01:08:763 - 01:08:851 -
18:25 ExPew: i dont have earphone here kek
18:25 Kawawa: It really 1/4th first.
18:25 Kawawa: alright.
18:25 Kawawa: then no problem.
18:25 Kawawa: let's do cancer diff.
18:26 Kawawa: wait. I want to know that I can pass or not
18:26 Kawawa: I was wondering
18:26 Kawawa: lol
18:26 ExPew: lol
18:26 ExPew: spec
18:26 Kawawa: okay
18:29 Kawawa: hahahga
18:29 Kawawa: okay I guess can pass.
18:29 ExPew: lol
18:29 Kawawa: because did not warming up yet.
18:30 *Kawawa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/663668 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Infection]]
18:30 ExPew: you can simply fc stream with jacl
18:30 ExPew: lol
18:30 Kawawa: you will nerf the HP?
18:30 Kawawa: I think keep is better.
18:31 ExPew: this is lowest hp i think
18:31 Kawawa: I think so.
18:31 ExPew: lst time 9.4
18:31 ExPew: last*
18:31 Kawawa: because mania HP is too rich.
18:31 ExPew: hp8 too ez
18:32 Kawawa: "HP9" has to be standard HP.
18:32 Kawawa: I guess.
18:32 ExPew: yeap
18:33 ExPew: leme try hp 9
18:33 Kawawa: O.O
18:35 ExPew: nooo shit
18:35 Kawawa: haha
18:37 ExPew: k nvm
18:37 Kawawa: haha
18:37 Kawawa: okay let's finish the check
18:37 Kawawa: 01:12:733 (72733|6,72910|5,73086|4,73263|3) - what do you think about change the LN?
18:38 Kawawa: because something match with 01:13:439 (73439|2) -
18:38 ExPew: shuffle heaven style
18:38 Kawawa: 01:13:439 (73439|2) - or change normal note this one.
18:38 ExPew: lol
18:38 Kawawa: alright.
18:38 ExPew: i think better
18:38 ExPew: chg them all LN
18:39 Kawawa: okay
18:39 ExPew: those normal your point
18:41 Kawawa: I think okay.
18:41 Kawawa: seems all fine.
18:41 Kawawa: when you want qualify?
18:42 ExPew: this is disaster
18:42 ExPew: 02:25:527 -
18:42 ExPew: only trick play can fc this
18:42 Kawawa: yeah becuase of this 02:25:351 (145351|6,145351|0,145395|4,145395|2,145439|6,145439|0,145483|4,145483|2,145527|1,145527|5,145616|1,145616|5) -
18:42 Kawawa: but I think okay.
18:43 ExPew: lets test of luck
18:43 Kawawa: lol
18:43 ExPew: btw i wnat you check after update
18:43 Kawawa: okay.
18:43 Kawawa: let's update
18:46 ExPew: opdated
18:46 ExPew: 01:30:469 -
18:46 *ExPew is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1081673 BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [Normal]]
18:47 Kawawa: 01:30:469 - ~
18:47 Kawawa: whole part changed?
18:47 ExPew: 1 measure this part
18:48 ExPew: 01:30:469 -
18:48 ExPew: and this part onlu
18:48 ExPew: 01:44:233 -
18:48 Kawawa: okay good.
18:48 Kawawa: no problem.
18:48 ExPew: weird all easy goes wrong
18:48 Kawawa: ?_?
18:49 ExPew: nvm
18:49 ExPew: all saved well
18:50 ExPew: reupdate
18:50 ExPew: fix all vol
Topic Starter
ExPew
alright fix and up
Kawawa
Hitsounds, Some General Issue Fixed.
Also confirmed the metadata on official Facebook, etc.

Qualified!
Congratz! pew! :)
Akasha-
cancer
Topic Starter
ExPew
thanks .


cancer
Jinjin
tfw no one to check doppelganger ;_;
pocket-Gao
LoliPew
paperlens
Nice^w^
stupud man
this took me a while but im not gonna guarantee that all these changes are spot on, however most of them are necessary
i've made 2 seperate mods, one is chordstream-based, the other is minijack-based. both charts have lower star rating, however both of these charts are much more playable and better reflect the difficulty. please read both mods, as i reference each mod from time to time

[Infection]
1|2|3|4|5|6|7
chordstream-based proposal
Any change proposed with "move to..." will usually be changing longjacks to spread them out as to be more comfortable while spreading the notes out across the playfield

00:18:204 (18204|0,18204|4) - to keep these more comfortable move these to 3 and 7
00:18:380 (18380|0,18380|4) - same as above

00:22:704 (22704|2) - move to 5
00:22:880 (22880|2,22880|6,22969|6,22969|2,23057|2,23057|6,23233|2,23233|6,23322|2,23322|6,23410|3,23410|5,23410|0) - change these so they create small doublestairs, should look like this

00:26:233 (26233|4,26410|5) - not much of a problem here but imo this pattern would be more comfortable if you moved these two notes a column to the right, this way there's no unexpected jack on key 5 see here
00:29:057 (29057|4,29233|5) - same as above

if the rest of the mod is applied, these next 2 notes i point out play awkwardly if left unchanged
00:42:027 (42027|2) - move to 2
00:42:027 (42027|5) - move to 7

00:52:351 (52351|0) - im thinking something like this will make this section more readable and comfortable as the jacks only being on keys 1, 3, 5, and 7 is confusing to play

00:57:910 (57910|4,57910|2) - move these to 2 and 4
01:00:204 (60204|2,60204|0) - these to 2 and 4
01:00:292 (60292|2,60292|0) - these to 3 and 5
01:00:645 (60645|0,60645|2) - these to 5 and 7
01:04:351 (64351|4,64351|6) - 3 and 5
01:04:351 (64351|4,64351|6) - 4 and 6

01:05:498 (65498|2) - move to 2
01:05:586 (65586|4,65675|4) - move to 6
01:05:763 (65763|0) - move to 2
01:05:851 (65851|6) - move to 6
01:06:292 (66292|4,66336|6,66380|4,66425|6) - turn these into a 4567 stair

01:10:969 (70969|2) - move to 2
01:11:322 (71322|2) - same as above

01:16:351 (76351|0) - all of the dense LN sections starting here (especially here 01:26:233 (86233|0) - )should be changed to be more readable but i have no idea how to go about doing that

01:34:792 (94792|4,94792|0) - move to 3 and 7
01:34:969 (94969|4,94969|0) - move to 3 and 7
01:35:145 (95145|5,95145|1) - move to 2 and 5
01:35:145 (95145|5,95145|1) - move to 2 and 4

these changes switch the longjack on 1 and 3 to a small bit of chordstreaming, if you want this to be more uniform you can probably switch it to doublestairs, although that pattern would still probably be uncomfortable
01:45:645 (105645|0,105645|2) - move to 4 and 6
01:45:822 (105822|2,105822|4) - move to 2 and 5
01:45:910 (105910|0,105910|2) - move to 4 and 6

02:01:616 (121616|5,121616|6) - starting here, i made this change

02:07:880 (127880|6,127880|4) - starting here, change this section to this

02:14:057 (134057|4) - move to 4
02:14:101 (134101|6) - move to 5
02:14:145 (134145|4) - move to 6

02:14:233 (134233|0) - starting here, i changed the patterns up so theres some extra density and the notes are spread out

02:18:822 (138822|5) - i found it tough to create a new pattern here with the notes given, but here's what I came up with (this suggestion isn't the best, but this part should be changed one way or another)

02:21:645 (141645|4,141645|6) - starting here, change to something like this
02:23:057 (143057|0,143057|2) - whatever you change above, mirror it here

02:24:645 (144645|0) - this is much more comfortable
02:25:527 (145527|5) - starting here up until the end of the longjacks, added density here

02:25:527 (145527|5,145527|1) - https://gnf3.s-ul.eu/gBWeMvID maybe something like this is better, i know i recycled this pattern a lot so if you want to change it to a different chordstreaming pattern feel free

02:31:880 (151880|0,151880|2) - https://gnf3.s-ul.eu/XHX14Plf this should work fine

02:32:939 (152939|4,152939|6) - https://gnf3.s-ul.eu/qb60fu4n i changed the ending to this but it doesn't flow as nicely as i'd like it to, this is just a start but maybe some pattern based around this would be good

minjack-based proposal
the vast majority of changes here will only be to keep longjacks from being too physically stressful to sustain, while keeping jacks as a main focus of the chart

00:18:116 (18116|4,18116|0,18204|0,18204|4) - move these four notes from 1 and 3 to 5 and 7

00:26:233 (26233|4,26410|5) - the mod i made above had my thoughts on this section, once again, not too big of a deal


00:52:351 (52351|0) - same as before, this will make this section more readable and comfortable

01:05:498 (65498|2) - move to 2
01:05:586 (65586|4,65675|4) - move to 6
01:05:763 (65763|0) - move to 2
01:05:851 (65851|6) - move to 6
01:06:292 (66292|4,66336|6,66380|4,66425|6) - turn these into a 4567 stair

01:10:969 (70969|2) - move to 2
01:11:322 (71322|2) - move to 2

still have the same opinions about the LN sections, but I don't have any suggestions

01:34:880 (94880|4,94880|0,94969|0,94969|4) - move to 2 and 5
01:35:057 (95057|0,95057|4,95145|4,95145|0) - move to 3 and 7

01:45:116 (105116|2,105116|0,105204|0,105204|2) - move to 2 and 4
01:45:380 (105380|6,105380|4,105469|4,105469|6) - move to 4 and 6

01:45:645 (105645|2,105645|0,105733|0,105733|2) - these can fit on 5 and 7

02:01:880 (121880|5,121880|6,121969|5,121969|6,122057|6,122057|5,122145|6,122145|5) - 3 and 4 probably
02:02:586 (122586|6,122586|5,122675|6,122675|5,122763|5,122763|6,122851|5,122851|6) - 4 and 5 work here

02:07:880 (127880|4,127880|6,127969|4,127969|6,128057|6,128057|4,128145|6,128145|4) - move over to 1 and 3

02:14:057 (134057|4,134101|6,134145|4,134189|6) - change to 4567 stair

02:14:586 (134586|0,134586|2,134675|0,134675|2,134763|2,134763|0,134851|2,134851|0) - 5 and 7 here

02:18:822 (138822|5) - same as the first mod, here's what I came up with, im sure this pattern can be worked on, but it still plays better than the original chart

02:24:645 (144645|0) - this is much more comfortable
02:25:351 (145351|0) - same as above

02:25:704 (145704|5,145704|1,145792|1,145792|5) - move to 1 and 3
02:25:880 (145880|5,145880|1,145969|1,145969|5) - move to 5 and 7
02:26:233 (146233|5,146233|1,146322|1,146322|5) - move to 1 and 5
02:26:410 (146410|5,146410|1,146498|1,146498|5) - move to 3 and 7

02:32:057 (152057|0,152057|2,152145|2,152145|0) - move to 5 and 7

02:32:586 (152586|2,152586|0) - remove these, or make the release when 02:32:939 (152939|4,152939|6) - these notes begin

02:32:939 (152939|4,153027|4) - move to 6
02:33:116 (153116|6,153116|4,153204|4,153204|6) - move to 1 and 2
02:33:292 (153292|6,153380|6) - move to 6
02:33:469 (153469|6,153469|4,153557|4,153557|6) - move to 2 and 3
02:33:822 (153822|6,153822|4,153910|4,153910|6) - move to 1 and 3
02:33:998 (153998|4,154086|4) - move to 4
02:34:175 (154175|4,154175|6,154263|6,154263|4) - move to 1 and 2
02:34:527 (154527|6,154527|4,154616|4,154616|6) - move to 1 and 4
02:34:704 (154704|4,154792|4) - move to 6
02:34:880 (154880|6,154880|4,154969|4,154969|6) - move to 2 and 4
Blocko
Disqualified. Please respond to stupud man's post about the hardest difficulty, especially when there are two mods about it.

After replying to his mod, we can consider getting this mapset qualified again.
Ayachi-
: o amazing mod
Topic Starter
ExPew

stupud man wrote:

this took me a while but im not gonna guarantee that all these changes are spot on, however most of them are necessary
i've made 2 seperate mods, one is chordstream-based, the other is minijack-based. both charts have lower star rating, however both of these charts are much more playable and better reflect the difficulty. please read both mods, as i reference each mod from time to time

[Infection]
1|2|3|4|5|6|7
chordstream-based proposal
Any change proposed with "move to..." will usually be changing longjacks to spread them out as to be more comfortable while spreading the notes out across the playfield

00:18:204 (18204|0,18204|4) - to keep these more comfortable move these to 3 and 7 huh? are you sure to make trill this part? even Insane already did.
00:18:380 (18380|0,18380|4) - same as above ^

00:22:704 (22704|2) - move to 5 why?
00:22:880 (22880|2,22880|6,22969|6,22969|2,23057|2,23057|6,23233|2,23233|6,23322|2,23322|6,23410|3,23410|5,23410|0) - change these so they create small doublestairs, should look like this they're still same pitch sound and able to do slight jackable in highest diff.

00:26:233 (26233|4,26410|5) - not much of a problem here but imo this pattern would be more comfortable if you moved these two notes a column to the right, this way there's no unexpected jack on key 5 see here as you can see, this pattern was mirrord on this part 00:25:527 (25527|2,25616|6,25704|1,25792|5,25880|3,25969|0,26057|4,26145|1) -
00:29:057 (29057|4,29233|5) - same as above ^

if the rest of the mod is applied, these next 2 notes i point out play awkwardly if left unchanged
00:42:027 (42027|2) - move to 2 this insane diff already did, why you don't revise them? or you just don't play it?
00:42:027 (42027|5) - move to 7 ^

00:52:351 (52351|0) - im thinking something like this will make this section more readable and comfortable as the jacks only being on keys 1, 3, 5, and 7 is confusing to play no good, i trying to ballance little bit

00:57:910 (57910|4,57910|2) - move these to 2 and 4
01:00:204 (60204|2,60204|0) - these to 2 and 4
01:00:292 (60292|2,60292|0) - these to 3 and 5
01:00:645 (60645|0,60645|2) - these to 5 and 7
01:04:351 (64351|4,64351|6) - 3 and 5
01:04:351 (64351|4,64351|6) - 4 and 6 are you trying to killing those jack? i'll explain below.

01:05:498 (65498|2) - move to 2
01:05:586 (65586|4,65675|4) - move to 6
01:05:763 (65763|0) - move to 2
01:05:851 (65851|6) - move to 6
01:06:292 (66292|4,66336|6,66380|4,66425|6) - turn these into a 4567 stair changed lower stair

01:10:969 (70969|2) - move to 2 you can hear this violin sounds a jackable here
01:11:322 (71322|2) - same as above

01:16:351 (76351|0) - all of the dense LN sections starting here (especially here 01:26:233 (86233|0) - )should be changed to be more readable but i have no idea how to go about doing this current already good instead of full LN style

01:34:792 (94792|4,94792|0) - move to 3 and 7 nope
01:34:969 (94969|4,94969|0) - move to 3 and 7 ^
01:35:145 (95145|5,95145|1) - move to 2 and 5 ^
01:35:145 (95145|5,95145|1) - move to 2 and 4 ^

these changes switch the longjack on 1 and 3 to a small bit of chordstreaming, if you want this to be more uniform you can probably switch it to doublestairs, although that pattern would still probably be uncomfortable
01:45:645 (105645|0,105645|2) - move to 4 and 6 seriously no
01:45:822 (105822|2,105822|4) - move to 2 and 5 ^
01:45:910 (105910|0,105910|2) - move to 4 and 6 ^

02:01:616 (121616|5,121616|6) - starting here, i made this change doesn't look like a jack?? why suddenly has 3 notes

02:07:880 (127880|6,127880|4) - starting here, change this section to this ^

02:14:057 (134057|4) - move to 4 - i managed some previous 1/8
02:14:101 (134101|6) - move to 5
02:14:145 (134145|4) - move to 6

02:14:233 (134233|0) - starting here, i changed the patterns up so theres some extra density and the notes are spread out no

02:18:822 (138822|5) - i found it tough to create a new pattern here with the notes given, but here's what I came up with (this suggestion isn't the best, but this part should be changed one way or another) please play Insane diff

02:21:645 (141645|4,141645|6) - starting here, change to something like this
02:23:057 (143057|0,143057|2) - whatever you change above, mirror it here

02:24:645 (144645|0) - this is much more comfortable
02:25:527 (145527|5) - starting here up until the end of the longjacks, added density here

02:25:527 (145527|5,145527|1) - https://gnf3.s-ul.eu/gBWeMvID maybe something like this is better, i know i recycled this pattern a lot so if you want to change it to a different chordstreaming pattern feel free yep still bother me, tested on qualified section someone fc'd on this part

02:31:880 (151880|0,151880|2) - https://gnf3.s-ul.eu/XHX14Plf this should work fine got something problem with this?why should be nerfed?

02:32:939 (152939|4,152939|6) - https://gnf3.s-ul.eu/qb60fu4n i changed the ending to this but it doesn't flow as nicely as i'd like it to, this is just a start but maybe some pattern based around this would be good, no good every note looks like a stair doesnt fit on music

minjack-based proposal
the vast majority of changes here will only be to keep longjacks from being too physically stressful to sustain, while keeping jacks as a main focus of the chart

00:18:116 (18116|4,18116|0,18204|0,18204|4) - move these four notes from 1 and 3 to 5 and 7

00:26:233 (26233|4,26410|5) - the mod i made above had my thoughts on this section, once again, not too big of a deal


00:52:351 (52351|0) - same as before, this will make this section more readable and comfortable

01:05:498 (65498|2) - move to 2
01:05:586 (65586|4,65675|4) - move to 6
01:05:763 (65763|0) - move to 2
01:05:851 (65851|6) - move to 6
01:06:292 (66292|4,66336|6,66380|4,66425|6) - turn these into a 4567 stair

01:10:969 (70969|2) - move to 2
01:11:322 (71322|2) - move to 2

still have the same opinions about the LN sections, but I don't have any suggestions

01:34:880 (94880|4,94880|0,94969|0,94969|4) - move to 2 and 5
01:35:057 (95057|0,95057|4,95145|4,95145|0) - move to 3 and 7

01:45:116 (105116|2,105116|0,105204|0,105204|2) - move to 2 and 4
01:45:380 (105380|6,105380|4,105469|4,105469|6) - move to 4 and 6

01:45:645 (105645|2,105645|0,105733|0,105733|2) - these can fit on 5 and 7

02:01:880 (121880|5,121880|6,121969|5,121969|6,122057|6,122057|5,122145|6,122145|5) - 3 and 4 probably
02:02:586 (122586|6,122586|5,122675|6,122675|5,122763|5,122763|6,122851|5,122851|6) - 4 and 5 work here - good, moved

02:07:880 (127880|4,127880|6,127969|4,127969|6,128057|6,128057|4,128145|6,128145|4) - move over to 1 and 3

02:14:057 (134057|4,134101|6,134145|4,134189|6) - change to 4567 stair

02:14:586 (134586|0,134586|2,134675|0,134675|2,134763|2,134763|0,134851|2,134851|0) - 5 and 7 here

02:18:822 (138822|5) - same as the first mod, here's what I came up with, im sure this pattern can be worked on, but it still plays better than the original chart

02:24:645 (144645|0) - this is much more comfortable
02:25:351 (145351|0) - same as above

02:25:704 (145704|5,145704|1,145792|1,145792|5) - move to 1 and 3
02:25:880 (145880|5,145880|1,145969|1,145969|5) - move to 5 and 7
02:26:233 (146233|5,146233|1,146322|1,146322|5) - move to 1 and 5
02:26:410 (146410|5,146410|1,146498|1,146498|5) - move to 3 and 7

02:32:057 (152057|0,152057|2,152145|2,152145|0) - move to 5 and 7

02:32:586 (152586|2,152586|0) - remove these, or make the release when 02:32:939 (152939|4,152939|6) - these notes begin

02:32:939 (152939|4,153027|4) - move to 6
02:33:116 (153116|6,153116|4,153204|4,153204|6) - move to 1 and 2
02:33:292 (153292|6,153380|6) - move to 6
02:33:469 (153469|6,153469|4,153557|4,153557|6) - move to 2 and 3
02:33:822 (153822|6,153822|4,153910|4,153910|6) - move to 1 and 3
02:33:998 (153998|4,154086|4) - move to 4
02:34:175 (154175|4,154175|6,154263|6,154263|4) - move to 1 and 2
02:34:527 (154527|6,154527|4,154616|4,154616|6) - move to 1 and 4
02:34:704 (154704|4,154792|4) - move to 6
02:34:880 (154880|6,154880|4,154969|4,154969|6) - move to 2 and 4 still same with insane diff.
I see that you didn't play the rest of other difficulties. Here is my proposal, please play the other difficulties and examine the pattern carefully before jumping to a conclusion. For this map at least. here click this http://puu.sh/sMrAi/4eb89abfb1.jpg i give you some tips to compare each diff patterns

once again QAT, are you sure you revised their mods before dq? too bad.
stupud man
The majority of the parts are similar to the insane diff because going even further with the difficulty (whether the pitch relevancy is right or not) makes the chart unplayable. There's a reason the chart has a positive user rating, and it's because 1) nobody bothers to use user rating and 2) the people who did actually bother played the insane difficulty or even easier ones, where there isnt necessarily anything uncomfortable about them. I have only talked to 1 person who actually liked the Infection difficulty, and it mainly has to do with the amount of longjack charts they play (eg. LR2 jack scale). It's an unconventional "skill" that doesn't really determine if you have any. It's a gift to move your forearms at a high speed without doing much reading of the chart.

So about pitch relevancy. There comes a time when pitch relevancy genuinely doesn't matter whatsoever, because following perfect pitch relevancy will eventually only make a chart more uncomfortable (see Dysnomia 8K prior to it's current version, where following pitch relevancy lead to extremely uncomfortable death jacks that didn't belong with the rest of the chart. this should sound familiar). That being said, pitch relevancy can still be noticed when playing small bursts of patterns (eg. FC's Blastix Riotz, he doesn't chart the 256bpm jumptrills as a single 256bpm jack. that's fucking outrageous). So, I think it's appropriate here to focus on playability over pitch relevancy, and no, a 24 note 170bpm longjack isn't playable by any means.

I will admit I hadn't looked at the Insane difficulty, and that was an error on my part. I'm going to try to put some time away to revise any mod I've made that's too similar to the Insane difficulty and buff it so there's at least some signs of difficulty increase, while keeping the map playable.
Akasha-
Edit: i will say other things later
Kawawa
okay when you done, call me again.
Topic Starter
ExPew

stupud man wrote:

The majority of the parts are similar to the insane diff because going even further with the difficulty (whether the pitch relevancy is right or not) makes the chart unplayable. There's a reason the chart has a positive user rating, and it's because 1) nobody bothers to use user rating and 2) the people who did actually bother played the insane difficulty or even easier ones, where there isnt necessarily anything uncomfortable about them.
this has nothing to do with the user rating. the similarity was intended to give a different variation in terms of gameplay and it does not change anything about comfortability
just because this chart is not your cup of tea, I don't see the need of mentioning the chart is not compatible or unplayable

stupud man wrote:

I have only talked to 1 person who actually liked the Infection difficulty, and it mainly has to do with the amount of longjack charts they play (eg. LR2 jack scale). It's an unconventional "skill" that doesn't really determine if you have any. It's a gift to move your forearms at a high speed without doing much reading of the chart.
somehow you did mention about "skill" and "gift", well each individual has their own "gift" and "skills". like this map is focusing on less usage of chordstream
for those who are bad on sightreading but has the jack/spamming skills

think about it. do you consider yourself as the person who has a clear understanding in it? if you think this is an abuse. i would have put 6 notes spam for the final part on each difficulties like i did in Influenza diff

stupud man wrote:

So about pitch relevancy. There comes a time when pitch relevancy genuinely doesn't matter whatsoever, because following perfect pitch relevancy will eventually only make a chart more uncomfortable (see Dysnomia 8K prior to it's current version, where following pitch relevancy lead to extremely uncomfortable death jacks that didn't belong with the rest of the chart. this should sound familiar). That being said, pitch relevancy can still be noticed when playing small bursts of patterns (eg. FC's Blastix Riotz, he doesn't chart the 256bpm jumptrills as a single 256bpm jack. that's fucking outrageous). So, I think it's appropriate here to focus on playability over pitch relevancy, and no, a 24 note 170bpm longjack isn't playable by any means.
as a mapper, they must already know the limitations for what the music based for,

this was intended for a challenge. however, it depends on the song, the rhythm and the bpm itself. it is mapper's choice to decide whether to make it a trill or jack or etc...

Updated some fix on Stupud's mod
stupud man

ExPew wrote:

just because this chart is not your cup of tea, I don't see the need of mentioning the chart is not compatible or unplayable

stupud man wrote:

I have only talked to 1 person who actually liked the Infection difficulty, and it mainly has to do with the amount of longjack charts they play (eg. LR2 jack scale).
Like I said, this chart bothers a lot more people than just me, just check the disqus comments. Unfortunately, I'm usually the only person who posts in the threads about these charts.

ExPew wrote:

somehow you did mention about "skill" and "gift", well each individual has their own "gift" and "skills". like this map is focusing on less usage of chordstream
for those who are bad on sightreading but has the jack/spamming skills
I understand that each player has their certain skillsets, and I understand that this chart has little to no usage of chordstreams, which is why I made the minijack mod. I was expecting nothing from the chordstream mod to go through. My original point though was that longjacking isn't necessarily a skill. You shouldn't be able to play an unbelievably difficult chart with your eyes closed, only using whatever strength you have in your forearms.

ExPew wrote:

think about it. do you consider yourself as the person who has a clear understanding in it? if you think this is an abuse. i would have put 6 notes spam for the final part on each difficulties like i did in Influenza diff
Anybody who has the capability of playing a chart has the ability to critique it, and like i said earlier I just so happen to be the only person who ever really speaks out. When I say that the patterns you put in your chart are deemed as uncomfortable by the vast majority of players, that doesn't mean make it worse.

ExPew wrote:

as a mapper, they must already know the limitations for what the music based for,
And if a mapper doesn't know that limitation, they aren't doing their job well, right?

ExPew wrote:

this was intended for a challenge. however, it depends on the song, the rhythm and the bpm itself. it is mapper's choice to decide whether to make it a chordstream or jack or etc...
However it's not the mapper's choice to decide that a chart is comfortable when many players think otherwise. Let's say I made a 2 minute audio file that was 999bpm, and I charted a 16th longjack for the entire song. I could argue forever about how comfortable it is, and ignore every other player's opinion about how the chart is uncomfortable. So should the chart be deemed comfortable, because the mapper said so?
Topic Starter
ExPew
if people were that serious about the disqus comments, i bet most of the mappers already felt demotivated or maybe quit right away. like how does disqus became a base of your arguments if the comments are mostly meme stuff? imo they should have posted their thoughts in the thread itself to make it more constructive and relevant.

longjacking was there for a reason, i'm not going to repeat what i have explained in my reply towards your mod.

then why did you mentioned about comfortability at the first place even in your mod? as i said it was intended for a challenge, this has nothing to do with comfort. as a modder, it is worth to mention that you SHOULD know the common sense to avoid overriding the mapper's creativity. by your logic, two mapsets of the same song created by different mapper should be synchronized as long as there are elements that people feel comfortable when playing, and it must not based on the mapper's choice to decide the variety or the uniqueness of the mapset, right?

thats it, i rest my case.
Akasha-
BanYa & Warak - Beethoven Influenza [OsuMania modding]


[Generals]
- BPM: Okay
- Offset: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Tags: Okay
- BG: Okay
- Kiai: Okay
- Metadata: Okay
- Folder’s problem: None
- Hitsound: Okay
- Timing: Okay
- Other: Okay

Bubbled
(Cancer)

Congratulations!

Since reply more will just going to make an endless war so I will just rebubble instead as the map was already fine to me. Best of luck!
Another Lie
Well, i read all that reason / mod / whatever it is.
It is worth to read, congrats for bubble ExPew.
I'll support you *shoot 3 stars* :D :D
Nivrad00
I love Infection and I had this in my favorites a long time before it was iconed, so I thought I should at least show my support ^^

Plenty of people have voiced their support in this thread, so I have to admit I'm dubious about stupud man's claim to represent the vast majority of opinions. But I'm sure he's spoken to more community members about this map than I have – and, like he said, it's possible some of these supporters are focusing on the lower diffs – so I'll have to defer my opinion. Either way, I'm proud to support this map, no matter how controversial it is. Worst thing that could happen is that people don't play it (but I'm sure every unranked mapper already knows what that's like hahaha)
Topic Starter
ExPew

Nivrad00 wrote:

Worst thing that could happen is that people don't play it (but I'm sure every unranked mapper already knows what that's like hahaha)
i get what you mean ahaha, thanks for supporting this map from beginning.
Kawawa
Some changed.
22:53 ExPew: wake up! it's loli time
23:11 Kawawa: oh
23:12 Kawawa: I woke up now.
23:16 ExPew: you late 1 min
23:16 Kawawa: sorry
23:16 Kawawa: okay are you ready
23:17 ExPew: if tou 10:11
23:17 ExPew: real lo:li
23:17 Kawawa: loll
23:17 Kawawa: I have to check something?
23:18 ExPew: i got few things changes
23:18 Kawawa: I noticed now
23:18 ExPew: according to stupud's mod on this LN
23:18 ExPew: 00:26:233 (26233|3,26233|4,26410|5) -
23:18 Kawawa: first
23:18 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sPfS5/0565888779.jpg
23:18 Kawawa: this changed
23:19 ExPew: ah yes
23:19 ExPew: much better i think current one
23:19 ExPew: i thinking about LN need to change
23:19 Kawawa: okay, I fully remember before one.
23:19 ExPew: the pattern
23:20 Kawawa: so I know now what changed.
23:20 Kawawa: 02:01:351 (121351|5,121527|5,121616|5,121704|5,121792|5,121880|5,121969|5,122057|5,122145|5) -
23:20 Kawawa: what do you think about move to 5?
23:20 Kawawa: 02:01:527 (121527|5,121616|5,121704|5,121792|5,121880|5,121969|5,122057|5,122145|5) -
23:20 Kawawa: 02:01:351 (121351|5) - because of this one.
23:20 ExPew: if move 5
23:21 ExPew: this note should be same too
23:21 ExPew: 02:02:233 (122233|1,122233|0,122322|0,122322|1,122410|1,122410|0,122498|0,122498|1,122586|5,122586|4,122675|4,122675|5,122763|5,122763|4,122851|4,122851|5) -
23:21 ExPew: how about it?
23:21 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sPfZ1/1018510af1.png
23:22 ExPew: those who left thumb give little pain here abit
23:22 Kawawa: ` hmm..
23:23 Kawawa: or like? http://puu.sh/sPg4A/730f51a751.jpg
23:24 ExPew: oh you just rearrange on previous part
23:24 ExPew: good
23:24 Kawawa: yeah
23:25 ExPew: changed
23:25 Kawawa: okay let me suggestion something
23:26 Kawawa: 01:06:116 - this part.
23:26 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sPge4/7c25afec15.jpg
23:26 Kawawa: what do you think?
23:28 ExPew: both fine
23:28 Kawawa: up to you, but I recommend you to move them a bit.
23:28 ExPew: changed
23:28 Kawawa: like screenshot.
23:29 Kawawa: 02:08:498 (128498|6,128586|6) - wanna keep this?
23:30 ExPew: i move this 02:08:586 (128586|6) - to 6th col
23:30 Kawawa: okay
23:30 Kawawa: that's all.
23:31 ExPew: before it
23:31 Kawawa: seems better than old version.
23:31 ExPew: i want you update this diff
23:31 ExPew: and rename to test or something else diff name
23:31 Kawawa: okay.
23:32 Kawawa:
23:33 ExPew: ok i going to update and you open the reference
23:33 ExPew: check new changes
23:33 Kawawa: okay.
23:34 Kawawa: done.
23:35 ExPew: done
23:36 ExPew: point the timeline which you checked new changes
23:36 Kawawa: yeah, I doing now.
23:37 Kawawa: 01:17:057 -
23:37 Kawawa: oh this changed?
23:37 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sPgLz/756d496d2d.jpg
23:37 ExPew: yes
23:38 Kawawa: I think right version is more better.
23:38 Kawawa: personally.
23:38 Kawawa: than left.
23:39 Kawawa: 01:21:998 (81998|4) - This LN. can't be snapped? till 01:22:263 -
23:39 Kawawa: or change as normal note.
23:39 ExPew: still got more you noticed?
23:39 ExPew: alright i can explain your point
23:40 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sPgSv/5d262502a3.jpg
23:40 ExPew: you can see the 1/4 ln here 01:17:763 - 01:19:175 - 01:20:586 - everything i made is same
23:40 Kawawa: yeah 2 notes. short LN
23:40 ExPew: to make more consistent
23:40 ExPew: i need to follow them together
23:41 Kawawa: okay.
23:43 Kawawa: confirmed.
23:43 Kawawa: no more change?
23:43 ExPew: ill point out some missing
23:43 ExPew: this 00:26:233 (26233|3,26233|4,26410|5) -
23:44 ExPew: do you need to change new pattern this measure line?
23:44 Kawawa: nah.
23:44 Kawawa: I like this one.
23:45 ExPew: you might not notice this
23:45 ExPew: 00:53:410 -
23:46 ExPew: 01:10:704 -
23:46 Kawawa: 00:53:410 - I knew it.
23:46 Kawawa: And I understood why you changed it, so agreed.
23:46 Kawawa: 01:10:704 - this is, I did not know
23:46 Kawawa: noticed now.
23:46 ExPew: alright
23:47 Kawawa: 01:10:704 -
23:47 Kawawa: okay seems good than before.
23:47 Kawawa: but I like old ver too.
23:47 ExPew: some of stupud's point i considered to make little nerf
23:47 ExPew: still maintain 4 fingers here
23:47 ExPew: dont worry xd
23:47 Kawawa: okay.
23:48 ExPew: alright that's only
23:48 ExPew: nerfed this too 01:52:704 -
23:48 Kawawa: wait.
23:48 Kawawa: 01:27:204 (87204|5,87204|4,87292|6) -
23:48 ExPew: 02:12:116 - improve some pattern looks more neat
23:48 Kawawa: I feel weird here.
23:48 Kawawa: when I played.
23:49 ExPew: ah
23:49 Kawawa: especially a lots.
23:49 ExPew: my sightreading bad here
23:49 ExPew: probably i randomly press stair to make less life drop
23:49 Kawawa: yeah.
23:50 Kawawa: let me feedback
23:52 Kawawa: hmmm
23:52 Kawawa: hard to make new idea.
23:53 ExPew: well this 2015 pattern
23:53 ExPew: hh
23:54 Kawawa: you want to keep them?
23:54 Kawawa: or want to make better?
23:55 ExPew: current my idea lacks of LN used now
23:55 ExPew: tbh my ln mapping skills deproved
23:56 ExPew: this would be better??
23:56 ExPew: http://puu.sh/sPhAH/16dc9a1c40.jpg
23:57 Kawawa: hmmm
23:58 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sPhF5/b0a8c448c7.jpg
23:59 Kawawa: btw this pattern is easy than your thinking.
00:00 Kawawa: so I might It's okay.
00:01 Kawawa: http://puu.sh/sPhMZ/7d63feda22.jpg
00:01 ExPew: actually they're same stair
00:01 ExPew: 01:26:763 (86763|4,86851|1,86939|5,86939|2,86939|6,87027|3,87027|4,87116|1,87116|2,87204|5,87204|6,87292|3,87292|4,87380|1,87380|2) -
00:01 ExPew: looks easy but confusing
00:01 ExPew: agreed and changed
00:02 Kawawa: yeah, but I could pass them
00:02 Kawawa: easily.
00:02 Kawawa: It feeling just stair patterns
00:03 Kawawa: like http://puu.sh/sPhS6/50a5005a2e.jpg
00:04 ExPew: ^it's actual pattern
00:04 ExPew: the LN kill your sightreading
00:04 ExPew: my*
00:05 Kawawa: I don't have good LN reading skill.
00:05 Kawawa: but I can proof that is smooth pattern.
00:06 Kawawa: and I'm fine everything now.
00:06 ExPew: alright
00:06 ExPew: reupdate

OK!
Frim4503
pretty good for old chart

congrats
this map will be selected for ranking chart next month
toby1018
this is why no one takes mania seriously
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