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You are waaay too much into this. I am excited to watch the OWC too, but come on...Athrun_Yamato wrote:
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
Athrun_Yamato wrote:
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
Weekend's
I'd really be interested in seeing this. Not to bash on the current casters, but they really add nothing much to the livestream while most of the players jesse mentioned entertain for money via streaming. I'm sure they would serve as way better casters. MWC can kind of prove why we really need better casters, considering Mr Color, arguably the best and most enthusiastic, appears not to be casting this time.jesus1412 wrote:
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.
So yes, we'd love a reply.
Loctav wrote:
The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?
I need to clarify that doubt please.
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.Albertol wrote:
Loctav wrote:
The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?
I need to clarify that doubt please.
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Confirming jesse's statement.
Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
But that’s stupid because I’ve heard from different individuals that it is “The first 32 countries that register” and what you just said directly contradicts that. If it is like that, there should be a notification on the Registration thread that says: ‘Send your registration but keep in mind that only 32 countries will be accepted, which we will pick based on the competitiveness of the country/team’ because I know of many countries that have never participated on the OWC that were waiting for your Registration thread in order to participate. In the case that the countries that are more ‘competitive’ are registered, those countries would have lost their time and opportunity believing that they were registered for sure just to be cancelled without knowing why (Because not everyone reads the Discussion thread). Basically, very few of the countries that wanted to participate for the first time will make it. I think that is unfair imo.jesus1412 wrote:
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.
this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things
deadbeat wrote:
this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things
But previously one player of our country asked Loctav directly because of this matter and he responded saying this: (I hope Loctav doesn’t find offensive that I revealed this PMs, if he does let me know. Sorry in advance.)
http://puu.sh/c3aiV/25b4f54e6d.png
http://puu.sh/c3akW/120c1c0ccf.png
And yes, you are right, the best teams should compete but I believe that some ‘Preliminary rounds’ to decide who’ll go would be better than this. I repeat, a lot of people will be disappointed because of this. It should have at least been mentioned beforehand.
Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Raw pp values of the registered players.Gigo wrote:
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014. If that isn’t the case, then does it mean that a player that has more rank than I do have more privilege to participate than myself? Even when my country sent our registration first and they posted theirs days after? That is unfair in many ways.deadbeat wrote:
Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
... Good.jesus1412 wrote:
Raw pp values of the registered players.Gigo wrote:
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Jesse and Raiku started "petition" together with Azer, what happened with him commentating?Loctav wrote:
Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
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We had to decline Azer's offer, unfortunately.
Regarding Albertol, I want to refer to the OWC ruleset, which clearly says
Anything you need to know about this tournament is clearly stated in the ruleset. Anything that is not written down there is not in effect. Therefore, assuming that there is a "first come, first serve" while it is nowhere clearly written is not possible.
tl;dr: read the ruleset. dat irony
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Regarding Albertol, I want to refer to the OWC ruleset, which clearly says
To ensure valid and serious registrations, any registration and change will be checked by the Tournament Management.And moreover:
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.
* The Game Administration may reject registrations due to the violation of the Terms of Services
The total amount of teams is 32.Any discussion about this is unneeded. Please consider, that the ruleset nowhere says "first comes, first serves" anymore, unlike the previous OWC. This rule has been removed.
Anything you need to know about this tournament is clearly stated in the ruleset. Anything that is not written down there is not in effect. Therefore, assuming that there is a "first come, first serve" while it is nowhere clearly written is not possible.
tl;dr: read the ruleset. dat irony
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I never said that. I only said that the OWC has 32 teams, therefore I only answered the first question, not the second. I didn't answer the 2nd one because it was not decided yet.Albertol wrote:
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014.
With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.
Now, in respect to that rule:
Now, in respect to that rule:
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
Holy shit dude just accept there is more than 32 countries and that people are going to be let down no matter what.Albertol wrote:
With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.
Now, in respect to that rule:* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
People don't want to watch a country whos best player has lower pp than even me, it's how the world works, it's the osu! world cup and people want to see the BEST players play not "We deserve to have a chance even though the average pp of our top 10 is 3088.8" players play
It doesnt matter, you've had your answer multiple times and it's literally common fucking sense.Albertol wrote:
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
gg
From last year's thread:
", almost our whole default players group. Still, we'll be able to deliver a strong performance since i'm the captain because of our allaround mod skill.
sadly we lost 3 very skilled norwegian players this year to "nah i don't really feel like playingMr Color wrote:
Shout out to Norway though, I'm pretty sad to see them not advance in knockout stage but you guys have nothing to regret, you did really well and I'm sure you'll be back next year with a revenge :p
", almost our whole default players group. Still, we'll be able to deliver a strong performance
Topic Starter
But he's right. This is a world cup. This is the best of the best vs the best of the best. If your teams and even your country's players are just mediocre, you won't get accepted. The only way to occupy a slot is to improve your and your mate's skills and then try again.Albertol wrote:
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
Ok. Good luuck Asia and Europe. It's your OWC.Loctav wrote:
But he's right. This is a world cup. This is the best of the best vs the best of the best. If your teams and even your country's players are just mediocre, you won't get accepted. The only way to occupy a slot is to improve your and your mate's skills and then try again.Albertol wrote:
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
atl apply, its not set in stone that you wont be accepted.Albertol wrote:
Ok. Good luuck Asia and Europe. It's your OWC.
Are there going to be any VODs this year? And are they going to be uploaded onto another streaming site i.e. youtube?
I think it's going to be the same as last year, but having these vods on youtube would really help out, as the old vods in twitch from the last owc got deleted because of the time limit.buny wrote:
Are there going to be any VODs this year? And are they going to be uploaded onto another streaming site i.e. youtube?
I'm all for having them on youtube.
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We have them all locally stored (the past ones and in future also the new ones) and will see if we can upload it somewhere.
Does that mean I can still e-peen from owc 2012? Yay.Loctav wrote:
We have them all locally stored (the past ones and in future also the new ones) and will see if we can upload it somewhere.
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only the ones streamed on osulive, sorry xD
Maybe we'll get a messiah syndrome again this year, and see rrtyui solo carry Japan to the title like Cookiezi did for Korea in his time 
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Singapore roster fully confirmed! Hopefully we do better than a 1 map win last year~
aww damnLoctav wrote:
only the ones streamed on osulive, sorry xD
Hope no one hates me for bringing this up but I have seen it a lot in this thread. Some people dislike that its not first come first serve for registration and some do. So I have an idea. could we do somthing like top 15 teams are gaurenteed an position in next years OWC and the rest will be chosen by first come first serve? That way it would be open for "underdogs" to come in and impress?
Just giving an idea for next year.
Just giving an idea for next year.
I remember having this discussion last year too. "Oh, well how about the top X teams get guaranteed a spot in the next year's OWC and the others will be handled on a first-come-first-serve basis". And here we are again this year, discussing the same stuff. Ahh, the good old days...
Seriously though, at least the top 4 teams should be guaranteed a participation in the next OWC. It's more than fair. Because... yeah, top 15 is a bit too much.
Seriously though, at least the top 4 teams should be guaranteed a participation in the next OWC. It's more than fair. Because... yeah, top 15 is a bit too much.
The only issue I could think of would be if a country was gaurenteed a spot and their entire team switch the year after.
Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
There are exams taking place on weekends? shitBlue Dragon wrote:
Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exame_Naci ... M%C3%A9dioPlaatinum wrote:
There are exams taking place on weekends? shitBlue Dragon wrote:
Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
Note that even though wiki says "non-mandatory", it's pretty much obligatory to enter any college here.
BTW, people just told me that Loctav asked us to wait until drawings so we can have the schedules alright for us to play. That seems fair enough.
