Hitsuji to Ojisan - XENO [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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Topic Starter
toybot

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Sorry again for tardy mod. :(

Unfortunately, there are some things that I am going to neglect to really have a look at, such as new combos.

[General]
In my opinion, the blue combo colors need to contrast more. There needs to be a greater progression among the combo colors. - I'll try to apply this when everything is updated

[Standard]
00:43:237 (1) - Personally, I don't like short sliders like these. I would just have a standard hitcircle, but I guess that's just personal. -changed
00:51:624 (1,2,3,4) - I would consider continuing the hitfinish sounds. It's awkwards as it then feels empty here while the section following seems too strong by comparison. It surprised me. - this part is kind of a buildup, thus a bit calmer
01:02:270 (2,3,2) - Same thing here. I want to see the momentum keep going. -changed
01:53:560 (3) - I like the switch here. However, I still think that there's room for improvement here. I can't really tell you what to do here. You'll have to experiment, or if not, that's fine too.

[Hyper]
Same things apply here as in [Standard].
00:16:302 (2,1) - In general in this map, I would be careful about overlapping sliders. Some of it is okay, but when it's really close like this, it's unappealing to me. - it doesn't overlap really there, i think it's fine. all overlaps are intentional tbh

[Extreme]
Pretty good in my opinion! :) Love them patterns and hitsounds. Maybe others will hate, but oh well. - c:

The main things to take away from this I guess would be keeping consistency where it really matters among all difficulties even with multiple mappers in my opinion. I also think that easier difficulties a lacking. They don't have the consistency in hitsounds, patterns, rhythm, and the like. Maybe I need to dig deeper, but I don't really see it on the surface.

Best of luck!
Daniel
thanks!
Deif
Awesome song and mapset. Just passing by~

[Extreme]
  1. 02:05:739 (8) - This note is unsnapped! There are other notes in the surroundings that are also slightly snapped (though AIMod doesn't detect those), so you might give a general check to the map, or simply get the objects snapped with the Timing control panel.


[Overdose]
  1. I wouldn't use those kiai flashes. Strong hitsounds make those spots relevant enough, and triggering such short kiais could make some PCs lag. Try to avoid the ones of 00:23:237 - 02:10:011 - .
  2. 00:54:205 - This kiai flash can also be avoided. It's true that in some songs the kiais can be "halved" like that, though the pace in this one is quite continuous. I'd rather let a longer kiai than 2 smaller ones in this case.
  3. Some jumps in the kiai times felt slightly off. Checking the timeline some inconsistencies were detected, so you might take a look at then. It's about the distance of some slider and the position of the jumps there:
    1. 00:54:205 (1,2) - The distance of those sliders should be the other way around (1/2 and 3/4) http://puu.sh/hu1fz/ce944f7e3a.jpg. In other similar chords, that was the order of the sliders, and it was more confortable to play imo.
    2. 00:54:850 (3,4) - ^
    3. 00:55:495 (5,6) - ^
    4. 00:56:141 (7,8) - In this case, the sound of the beat is the same as in previous examples, though you prefered to insert the jump already at the red tick.
    5. 00:56:786 (1,2) - We come again to the 3/4-1/2 sliders, which should be 1/2-3/4 instead
    6. 00:57:431 (3,4) - ^
    7. 00:58:076 (1,2) - And here again, you changed it back to a 1/2-3/4 thingy.
    8. 00:59:366 (1,2) - uguguguuu
    9. 01:56:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - More examples of those sliders can be found here and below.
    10. 01:58:721 (1,2) -
    11. 02:01:302 (1,2) -
    12. 02:02:592 (1,2) -
  4. 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - I'm seeing that lately quite often. Those notes, referring to (1) and (3), are in the plain border of the screen and the probabilities that the catcher hits the wall are high > loss of stability by hitting the wall > odd playgame sensation that can lead to a miss. Try to distance slightly those beats from the edges of the screen.
  5. 02:05:818 (1) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?).
  6. 02:05:980 (2) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?).


[]
I think CLSW wanted to take a look at it tomorrow as well, so I'll let him do it. If there wasn't any answer in a few days, feel free to call me for a recheck!
Topic Starter
toybot
kenterz gave me permission to change his diff

Didn't change from vinxis since I personally think SV there is fine as an intensifier

buraimaster1234 wrote:

[Kentez's Another]
00:02:592 (3,4,1,2,1,1) - I think that these are just too close together. I would separate them more across the playfield and avoid stay monotonously close to the center. - I think having the sliders like this at this distance is fine and plays well as a calm part.
00:23:237 (1) - I would get together about what to do with this hitsound. It should be consistent among all difficulties. -changed
00:43:237 (4) - I have a similar comment for this as in [Standard]. However, I think it fits better here due to the faster pace. I would actually probably keep it. ;)
For the kiai times, I would consider adding in some of the normal finishes that are in the other difficulties. Just something to consider. Same thing with the soft whistles in the last section. Keeping the consistency among difficulties. Speak amongst yourself regarding this matter.
Wow! I love the patterns in this one!! :)

Best of luck!
Daniel
fixed unsnapped note from Deif in Extreme

waiting for spec's response
Spectator

Deif wrote:

Awesome song and mapset. Just passing by~

[Extreme]
  1. 02:05:739 (8) - This note is unsnapped! There are other notes in the surroundings that are also slightly snapped (though AIMod doesn't detect those), so you might give a general check to the map, or simply get the objects snapped with the Timing control panel.


[Overdose]
  1. I wouldn't use those kiai flashes. Strong hitsounds make those spots relevant enough, and triggering such short kiais could make some PCs lag. Try to avoid the ones of 00:23:237 - 02:10:011 - . I'd keep mine, I thought hitsounds were not enough
  2. 00:54:205 - This kiai flash can also be avoided. It's true that in some songs the kiais can be "halved" like that, though the pace in this one is quite continuous. I'd rather let a longer kiai than 2 smaller ones in this case. makes sense, removed
  3. Some jumps in the kiai times felt slightly off. Checking the timeline some inconsistencies were detected, so you might take a look at then. It's about the distance of some slider and the position of the jumps there:
    1. 00:54:205 (1,2) - The distance of those sliders should be the other way around (1/2 and 3/4) http://puu.sh/hu1fz/ce944f7e3a.jpg. In other similar chords, that was the order of the sliders, and it was more confortable to play imo. fixed
    2. 00:54:850 (3,4) - ^ ^
    3. 00:55:495 (5,6) - ^ ^
    4. 00:56:141 (7,8) - In this case, the sound of the beat is the same as in previous examples, though you prefered to insert the jump already at the red tick.
    5. 00:56:786 (1,2) - We come again to the 3/4-1/2 sliders, which should be 1/2-3/4 instead ^
    6. 00:57:431 (3,4) - ^ ^
    7. 00:58:076 (1,2) - And here again, you changed it back to a 1/2-3/4 thingy. ^
    8. 00:59:366 (1,2) - uguguguuu ^
    9. 01:56:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - More examples of those sliders can be found here and below. ^
    10. 01:58:721 (1,2) - ^
    11. 02:01:302 (1,2) - ^
    12. 02:02:592 (1,2) -
  4. 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - I'm seeing that lately quite often. Those notes, referring to (1) and (3), are in the plain border of the screen and the probabilities that the catcher hits the wall are high > loss of stability by hitting the wall > odd playgame sensation that can lead to a miss. Try to distance slightly those beats from the edges of the screen. ok, fixed
  5. 02:05:818 (1) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?). fixed as well
  6. 02:05:980 (2) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?). ^


[]
I think CLSW wanted to take a look at it tomorrow as well, so I'll let him do it. If there wasn't any answer in a few days, feel free to call me for a recheck!
It's quite surprising, I thought all ctb QATs are interested only in clsw's maps

anyway, thanks for the mod

osu file format v14

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Minato Yukina
[General]
02:10:011 Is this redline necessary? It's just a half of the general bpm 186, so you may remove and add 0.5x SV change instead.

[Spec's Overdose]
00:14:044 (4,1) - 여기에 조그만 점프 하나 넣어두시는게 좋을거같습니다.
00:17:915 (3) - 하이퍼대시는 곡 분위기상 그렇게 좋아보이진 않은데 그냥 롱 점프 하나로 대신하시는게
00:43:076 (2) - 하이퍼대시 넣어주시면 잘 어울릴거같네요. 저는 00:43:237 (3) - 을 x : 304로 옮겨봤습니다.
02:20:978 (2,3) - Same as 00:14:044 (4,1)

그 외 다른 파트들은 흠잡을 곳이 없네요. 정말 잘 만드셨습니다.

/me pokes deif
Spectator

CLSW wrote:

[General]
02:10:011 Is this redline necessary? It's just a half of the general bpm 186, so you may remove and add 0.5x SV change instead. /me pokes toybot

[Spec's Overdose]
00:14:044 (4,1) - 여기에 조그만 점프 하나 넣어두시는게 좋을거같습니다.
00:17:915 (3) - 하이퍼대시는 곡 분위기상 그렇게 좋아보이진 않은데 그냥 롱 점프 하나로 대신하시는게
00:43:076 (2) - 하이퍼대시 넣어주시면 잘 어울릴거같네요. 저는 00:43:237 (3) - 을 x : 304로 옮겨봤습니다.
02:20:978 (2,3) - Same as 00:14:044 (4,1) 여긴 유지하겠습니다.

그 외 다른 파트들은 흠잡을 곳이 없네요. 정말 잘 만드셨습니다.

/me pokes deif
osu file format v14

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256,192,126544,12,0,129689,0:0:0:0:
255,133,130011,6,0,P|128:140|60:116,1,186,4|2,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,105,131140,2,0,L|340:105,1,46.5,0|2,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
158,262,131623,2,0,L|266:278,1,93,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,156,132591,6,0,L|280:120,1,186,0|0,1:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
112,88,133881,2,0,L|236:72,1,93,2|4,1:1|1:0,1:0:0:0:
192,176,135172,6,0,L|8:152,1,186,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,88,136301,2,0,L|200:80,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
304,280,136785,2,0,L|196:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,176,137752,6,0,L|504:152,1,186,0|2,1:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
269,128,138881,2,0,L|224:140,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
70,78,139365,2,0,L|162:96,1,93,0|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,284,140333,6,0,L|368:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,180,140978,2,0,L|304:140,1,139.5,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
336,147,141623,2,0,L|336:44,1,93,2|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
200,192,142269,2,0,L|200:295,1,93,2|0,2:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
52,56,142914,6,0,L|52:252,1,186,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,344,144204,2,0,P|452:208|308:68,1,372,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
200,116,146140,6,0,L|401:147,1,186,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,285,147752,6,0,P|267:239|326:130,1,232.5,0|14,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:

others are fixed
thanks
Topic Starter
toybot
@CLSW I believe the red line halving BPM is fine, since there's such a huge change of pace there.

updated
Deif

Spectator wrote:

It's quite surprising, I thought all ctb QATs are interested only in clsw's maps
I'll slap you if you keep thinking like that :(
Kloyd
  • Special

  1. 00:15:495 (1) - i think its better curved outside than inside so http://puu.sh/hB3tR/c2a7e0c758.jpg
  2. 01:18:560 - try add a circle here

    nothing else. gud
  • Another

  1. 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - try make this pattern more symmetrical
Topic Starter
toybot

Kloyd wrote:

  • Special

  1. 00:15:495 (1) - i think its better curved outside than inside so http://puu.sh/hB3tR/c2a7e0c758.jpg - I think shape right now is cleaner
  2. 01:18:560 - try add a circle here - added

    nothing else. gud
  • Another

  1. 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - try make this pattern more symmetrical - added
I feel like there'll be more, but thx for mod +star!
pishifat
can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz

[general]
  1. softclap30 and softslidertick50 delay


[lust]
  1. 01:53:237 (3,1,2,3) - default claps sound really out of place. if you were using N:C1 it would be fine but default claps just don't compliment the song at all


[standard]
  1. 00:31:624 (2) - 00:41:302 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 00:28:399 (1) - 00:29:689 (3) - 00:32:270 (3) -
  2. 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is there a reason why these change from 1.0x spacing to 0.9x? music isn't doing anything fancy so spacing decrease seems just weird
  3. 00:51:302 (4,1,2,3,4) - would probably make more sense to have the 1.1x increase starting at 00:54:205 (1) - since music gets more intenseidunno. having it in hte middle of the phrase seems unfitting
  4. 01:20:011 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 01:14:850 (1) -
  5. 01:27:753 (1) - head whistle inconsistent with the other stuff yayeeya


[hyper]
  1. 00:02:592 (2) - hitsound tho
  2. 00:53:560 (1) - so far into the hp bar holy
  3. 00:54:044 (2,3,1) - stack leniency stuff causes an overlap with this and the previous object, so would probably be good to move stuff down to counteract that
  4. 01:17:915 (2) - would be nice to lower volume for the slidertickclap to like 45%. right now it's louder than the head and tail which can be obnoxious (especially when it's just there to compliment the song instead of actually matching it). would also apply to insane/special's tick hitsounds
  5. 01:33:721 (2) - finish on head cuz ya


[insane]
  1. 00:31:624 (3) - 00:34:044 (2) - whistle on tail for reasons


[kenterz]
  1. i can't tell what some of your spacing is supposed to be emphasizing. take the section at 00:12:915 (1) - as an example -- i get that you want to make the downbeat stand out, but everything else seems to follow nothing. sliders like 00:13:560 (3) - 00:14:850 (3) - 00:16:141 (3) - etc have the same sounds yet spacing varies drastically between all of them. seeing why this map was disqualified could probably help explain things. this applies mostly to the sections at 00:12:915 (1) - and 01:14:850 (1) - , but it really wouldn't hurt to go through the rest of the difficulty and see how spacing can correspond with the song better so things are more intuitive to play
  2. there's also a lot of rhythms that seem to accent weaker sounds while ignoring stronger sounds. for example, 00:34:366 (6) - has the main melody bell sound/snare, whereas head just has a kick. that bell thing is the thing being focused on, so your mapping should indicate that as well. reading the first part of this dq may also be a good idea. some other examples of weird emphasis: 00:38:237 (4) - 00:41:786 (2) - 01:26:302 (1) - 01:28:560 (6) - etc. pretty sure this was what i complained about a lot in your pokemon marathon too lol
  3. 00:51:624 (1) - the decreasing volume thing as an idea is fine, but right now it's too quiet. soft sampleset is pretty much inaudible at 35% when song is super loud. furthermore volume only goes back up to 50% after this, whereas 65% (what it was before the volume decrease) is a lot more appropriate
  4. 01:47:753 (3,6) - would look neater to not have these overlapping
  5. 01:48:076 (4,5,6) - spacing is pretty derp. i assume 5 was meant to be stacked
  6. 01:55:979 (8,1,2,3) - stack leniency makes these look probably not like what you were intending. may wnat to move things so they're in the right places yeayea


[special]sliderbreaks:(
  1. hp7 would be better. doesn't matter that kenterz's diff uses it too, 7.5 is just higher than what the difficulty itself should be (which is why you'll see a lot of extras with lower hp than insanes)
  2. 00:58:076 (1,2,3,4) - when initially playing i screwed up here cuz i was expecting anotehr double. music supports my screwing up with emphasis more on 00:58:318 - than 00:58:237 - . would be different from 00:56:947 (2) - since there's some synth sound actually there
  3. 02:25:494 (1,2,1,1) - is there a reason why hitsound volumes are higher than other diffs? especially weird the last slider which you made louder whereas other diffs you made softer


so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better
Topic Starter
toybot
deleted = fixed

pishifat wrote:

can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz
http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... f&event=88 (ctrl+F search "fantasia") thats japanese name of artist
https://soundcloud.com/ujico/bof2013-x-n soundcloud of artist, provides english translation (Ujico+CLONE)
turns out i should've done some checking before getting this pushed lol

[standard]
  1. 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is there a reason why these change from 1.0x spacing to 0.9x? music isn't doing anything fancy so spacing decrease seems just weird - oh i was just being retarded
  2. 01:20:011 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 01:14:850 (1) - normal-hitfinish30 is basically that one whistle here


[special]sliderbreaks:(
  1. 02:25:494 (1,2,1,1) - is there a reason why hitsound volumes are higher than other diffs? especially weird the last slider which you made louder whereas other diffs you made softer -oops


so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better
thanks for mod!
Cherry Blossom
Metadata ?
The artist name should be : ひつじとおじさん
Assume the official source is the BMS site, where you can find this BMS version. "Ujico&CLONE" are not mentionned.





___________________

Let me tell you another case like this :
For example, another BMS song : Rune Caster - TYR


And, "Music : Rune Caster a.k.a LhoU" https://soundcloud.com/lhoustudio/pabat ... une-caster

You see that there are conflicts with Artist name, but assume the official Artist name comes from the official source where you can find the BMS

no KD please.
Topic Starter
toybot
I already implemented the Japanese artist name when i replied to pishifat's mod.

I'm still pretty sure that the English artist name is supposed to be "Ujico+CLONE";

In the description of https://soundcloud.com/ujico/bof2013-x-n, it says "曲:ひつじとおじさん(Ujico+CLONE)".

Thanks!
Arugakente

pishifat wrote:

can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz

[kenterz]
  1. i can't tell what some of your spacing is supposed to be emphasizing. take the section at 00:12:915 (1) - as an example -- i get that you want to make the downbeat stand out, but everything else seems to follow nothing. sliders like 00:13:560 (3) - 00:14:850 (3) - 00:16:141 (3) - etc have the same sounds yet spacing varies drastically between all of them. seeing why this map was disqualified could probably help explain things. this applies mostly to the sections at 00:12:915 (1) - and 01:14:850 (1) - , but it really wouldn't hurt to go through the rest of the difficulty and see how spacing can correspond with the song better so things are more intuitive to play
    I don't really understand what you mean, the spacing I choose doesn't follow any beat, it's just for the construction of the pattern, so for the moment no changes =/
  2. there's also a lot of rhythms that seem to accent weaker sounds while ignoring stronger sounds. for example, 00:34:366 (6) - has the main melody bell sound/snare, whereas head just has a kick. that bell thing is the thing being focused on, so your mapping should indicate that as well. reading the first part of this dq may also be a good idea. some other examples of weird emphasis: 00:38:237 (4) - 00:41:786 (2) - 01:26:302 (1) - 01:28:560 (6) - etc. pretty sure this was what i complained about a lot in your pokemon marathon too lol
    Done (I guess)
  3. 00:51:624 (1) - the decreasing volume thing as an idea is fine, but right now it's too quiet. soft sampleset is pretty much inaudible at 35% when song is super loud. furthermore volume only goes back up to 50% after this, whereas 65% (what it was before the volume decrease) is a lot more appropriate Done
  4. 01:47:753 (3,6) - would look neater to not have these overlapping Done
  5. 01:48:076 (4,5,6) - spacing is pretty derp. i assume 5 was meant to be stacked Done
  6. 01:55:979 (8,1,2,3) - stack leniency makes these look probably not like what you were intending. may wnat to move things so they're in the right places yeayea Done


so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better
Thanks for mod :3
http://puu.sh/hTfKS.osu
pishifat

Kenterz wrote:

I don't really understand what you mean, the spacing I choose doesn't follow any beat, it's just for the construction of the pattern, so for the moment no changes =/
spacing section under hard: p/4169396
first section under insane: p/4125664
usage of jumps section: p/4138287
first section: p/4113058
etc

spacing needs to follow the song. even if your current spacing is for "pattern construction," that doesn't exempt it from relation to the music. you can still create whatever patterns you like as long as they're logical when compared to the song's points of emphasis
Topic Starter
toybot
updated
Arugakente
@pishifat : I changed the slow sections

Update : http://puu.sh/hYvE3.osu
KSHR
Let me throw my 2 cents because pishifat asked me for help to make sure.



There is the extended version of this song, but in this page, the description doesn't say "(Ujico+CLONE)".

+ Don't you think it's strange to translate ひつじ (sheep) / おじさん(uncle or old man) as Ujico / CLONE?
As the result of searching, apparently Ujico and CLONE (who are Japanese composers) created/uploaded this song under another name. That's why the description says (Ujico+CLONE). So it's completely fine to add Ujico and CLONE to Tags, but not to type them in the artist field imo because it's the almost same thing as altering the artist name.

For these reasons, I think the artist name should be ひつじとおじさん as CherryBlossom posted.


EDIT:

ひつじとおじさん / Hitsuji to Ojisan
Topic Starter
toybot
ok, thank you KSHR + CB! ^^

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