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Badis

Joined November 2010

Badis 2015-03-18T22:24:12+00:00

Hey ;w; gonna mod Spec's Overdose diff o/
00:13:237 (2) - increase the distance between (2) and (3) that should emphasize the loud sound at (3)
00:23:237 - are you sure for the break ? I find this weird but can't really explain more x)
00:27:753 (1,2) - lack some intensity , looks like lines that are very close when we do the movement
00:57:754 (4) - what about the tail : X=252 for a better flow
01:20:092 (1) - this spinner doesn't fit with the situation should have circles here
02:11:140 (2) - what about X=476 , for a better flow ;w;
02:04:205 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I think this part should be harder , that's the climax of the song we need something intense
Well , that's all for me your map is really clean and all the spacings are good the timing isn't too tiny that's really a good job...as usual my dear Spec

Good luck minna o//////

MBomb

MBomb 2015-03-19T17:30:11+00:00

CtB mod requested by toybot.

Spec's Overdose

00:10:334 (3) - Maybe have a spinner instead of this break, starting here?
00:15:974 - Add a circle on the 1/2 here.
00:16:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
00:18:076 (1) - ^
00:20:657 (3) - Remove this circle and have the spinner start here.
00:29:608 (9) - I'd have an NC here, and then remove the NC on 00:29:850 (1) - and add it to 00:30:173 (2) - .
00:30:903 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here.
00:32:108 (9) - NC.
00:35:899 (8,9) - Move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4.
00:39:944 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here.
00:40:574 - ^
00:41:060 (5,6) - I'd move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4 too.
00:42:033 - Add a circle on the 1/4.
00:42:270 (7) - This works better as just a 1/2 slider.
00:42:592 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
00:45:011 (6) - Make this just 2 circles instead.
00:48:721 (7) - NC.
00:54:044 (3) - Make this a 1/4 slider.
00:55:430 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here.
00:56:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider and move 00:57:108 (2) - back to the 1/4, then put a 1/4 slider on the 1/2.
00:57:431 (3,4) - ^ do the same here.
01:12:270 (2) - Start the spinner here instead.
01:17:915 (3) - I'd change this so that it goes like this instead.
01:20:011 (1) - Start the spinner here instead.
01:25:818 (3) - Make this a 1/2 slider.
01:27:753 (1) - ^
01:29:286 (3) - Remove.
01:31:530 - Place a circle on the 3/4.
01:32:270 (5) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once.
01:36:463 (5) - Make 4 hyper to this.
01:38:560 (2) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once.
01:39:205 (4) - The drum being at the end of this slider feels weird to me, I'd just make this two circles.
01:40:011 (4) - Make this a 1/2 slider.
01:49:366 (3,4) - Make this a 1/4 slider.
01:51:947 (5,6) - ^
02:01:866 (3) - Remove this note.
02:12:591 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
02:14:524 - Place a circle on the 1/1 here.
02:24:057 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here.
02:25:849 - Place a circle on the 1/2 here.

And done, love the map, have a star

Spectator

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,780 posts

Joined February 2011

Spectator 2015-03-20T08:04:46+00:00

Badis wrote:
Hey ;w; gonna mod Spec's Overdose diff o/
00:13:237 (2) - increase the distance between (2) and (3) that should emphasize the loud sound at (3) fixed
00:23:237 - are you sure for the break ? I find this weird but can't really explain more x) it does work perfect imo ;_; sorry I keep mine here
00:27:753 (1,2) - lack some intensity , looks like lines that are very close when we do the movement added a bit more movement
00:57:754 (4) - what about the tail : X=252 for a better flow sorry I wanna keep mine, also i feel like the flow here is ok as well
01:20:092 (1) - this spinner doesn't fit with the situation should have circles here i don't think so... I can't explain in a detail but it works really nice for me
02:11:140 (2) - what about X=476 , for a better flow ;w; moved to the right-side
02:04:205 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I think this part should be harder , that's the climax of the song we need something intense fixed
Well , that's all for me your map is really clean and all the spacings are good the timing isn't too tiny that's really a good job...as usual my dear Spec
Good luck minna o//////

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
CtB mod requested by toybot.

Spec's Overdose
00:10:334 (3) - Maybe have a spinner instead of this break, starting here? added
00:15:974 - Add a circle on the 1/2 here. It would totally ruin the consistency here
00:16:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once. then It would be unrankable as there're two fruits at the same time.
00:18:076 (1) - ^ ^
00:20:657 (3) - Remove this circle and have the spinner start here. I don't understand why should it be..
00:29:608 (9) - I'd have an NC here, and then remove the NC on 00:29:850 (1) - and add it to 00:30:173 (2) - . NC is fine imo
00:30:903 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here. Yeah there IS a sound, but sorry I wanna keep mine here.
00:32:108 (9) - NC. sorry but nope
00:35:899 (8,9) - Move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4. fixed
00:39:944 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here. sorry
00:40:574 - ^ nope
00:41:060 (5,6) - I'd move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4 too. this is fine enough
00:42:033 - Add a circle on the 1/4. I don't hear anything here tbh
00:42:270 (7) - This works better as just a 1/2 slider. not really, it works better with 1/4 considering some consistency here
00:42:592 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once. As it seems fine to me, i'll keep mine sorry
00:45:011 (6) - Make this just 2 circles instead. What's the difference between 2 circles and slider?
00:48:721 (7) - NC. For a consistency, I'd like to keep this one without NC
00:54:044 (3) - Make this a 1/4 slider. I don't want to add 1/4 here. It's a section where the rhythm is changed
00:55:430 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here. It would ruin the flow
00:56:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider and move 00:57:108 (2) - back to the 1/4, then put a 1/4 slider on the 1/2. I don't agree with you, it would make this part even worse
00:57:431 (3,4) - ^ do the same here. Sorry, but I keep mine here
01:12:270 (2) - Start the spinner here instead. then I can't add hitsound which fits pretty nice with the song. As this note is reasonable at all, sorry i keep mine again
01:17:915 (3) - I'd change this so that it goes like this instead. I keep mine as well, sorry
01:20:011 (1) - Start the spinner here instead. nope
01:25:818 (3) - Make this a 1/2 slider. Why would it be? It plays pretty nice imo(also it fits the song)
01:27:753 (1) - ^ no
01:29:286 (3) - Remove. An additional note here sounds not bad though
01:31:530 - Place a circle on the 3/4. I don't think it's better
01:32:270 (5) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once. It plays awkward if i add 1/4
01:36:463 (5) - Make 4 hyper to this. I would consider fixing this one
01:38:560 (2) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once. sorry but it'll ruin the consistency at all, so I keep mine
01:39:205 (4) - The drum being at the end of this slider feels weird to me, I'd just make this two circles. again, what's the difference between them?
01:40:011 (4) - Make this a 1/2 slider. I'll keep the current 3/4, sorry
01:49:366 (3,4) - Make this a 1/4 slider. nope sorry
01:51:947 (5,6) - ^ ^
02:01:866 (3) - Remove this note. this is reasonable, removed
02:12:591 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once. I know that's acceptable as well, but can I keep mine here? I think it would be fine with just 1/1
02:14:524 - Place a circle on the 1/1 here. I don't want to add there as it sounds not really good, sorry no fix here
02:24:057 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here. added
02:25:849 - Place a circle on the 1/2 here. I'll keep mine, sorry

And done, love the map, have a star

thanks for the mod guys!

http://puu.sh/gHRfn/256f9e8a6b.osu

Niko-nyan

1,990 posts

Joined June 2011

Niko-nyan 2015-03-21T11:53:53+00:00

oh no im coming TKS

TK'S ONI

01:03:076 - how about kkddkkk / kkddkdk
01:23:882 - k (hear the violin)

nice diff TKS!

TK'S Muzukashii

01:08:399 - how about k ?

Seems fine at all for me

machol30

osu! Alumni

1,134 posts

Joined January 2008

machol30 2015-03-29T21:59:28+00:00

Wow, this is interesting. Somehow, I managed to use the exact same image for the background for one of my maps. Anyway, I guess that means I'm modding this one.

It may take me a while to actually get to it though, so I apologize in advance for tardy modding.

ZiRoX

Elite Mapper

1,019 posts

Joined November 2009

ZiRoX 2015-04-10T00:15:10+00:00

This is out of my comfort zone when it comes to playing, trying my best.

[Spec's Overdose]

00:19:689 (2) - You can try to move this a bit to the right (I tried x:248 and it felt good, but you can try some other positions) to emphasize the drum a bit more.
00:20:657 (3) - I think (that's what I see) that the right side of the screen is more crowded with bananas in the spinner, so doing Ctrl+H on this one might lead to some more spinning competition
00:30:657 (7,1) - I'm not really fond of the antiflow here, I think moving 00:30:979 (1,2) - to x:480 provides a better flow.
00:34:528 (3) - I think this should be a 1/2, the same sound that the 1/4 is mapped to can be heard on the red tick at 00:35:173 (2) - . Also, the same sound is ignored on 00:34:044 (2) - , so it would be better for consistency.
00:36:947 (8) - I think Ctrl+G on this makes for a better flow
00:38:399 (8,1) - I think this part could have more spacing to emphasize the 1/1 slider a bit more. I think the following pattern for 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - plays nice:
SPOILER
00:41:947 (5,6,7) - Noob player stuff: I think moving (6) to x:332 and (7) to x:180 makes this easier to catch after the hyperdash, making it more enjoyable by not-so-pro players.
00:51:060 (4) - I like this when Ctrl+G'd. Maybe curving 00:51:302 (5,6,7,8,1) - a bit also makes it flow better
00:54:044 (3) - Moving this to the left a bit may make it easier to catch after the large hyperdash.
01:12:270 (2) - Moving this to the right (I tried x:136) will leave the player in a better position to catch bananas and will still have the hyperdash.
01:19:366 (3) - I think this is a large jump, really close to hyperdash, which doesn't feel right to me. I think reducing distance a bit (x:24, for example) gives a better feeling.
01:43:721 (4,1) - This movement is a bit counter-intuitive. Also, both 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - play the same while the second one sounds stronger. My suggestion is to put 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - closer to the center (like this) and Ctrl+H on 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) -
01:51:705 (4,5,6,7,8) - I think you can Ctrl+H this to, first, make 01:51:463 (3,4) - easier, and give more emphasis on 01:52:189 (8,1) -

Hope something of this is actually useful.

Lurei

667 posts

Joined March 2014

Lurei 2015-04-11T20:11:52+00:00

Yo. Modding from queue.

[Overview]

The following hitsound is unused (according to the unused hitsounds app):
drum-hitnormal30.wav -> And for some reason, it doesn't open when I try to hear it with Windows Player?
Inconsistency with Preview Point on Extreme and Spec's Overdose? You need to fix it, making preview point the same as the other diffs. Nvm, just noticed Preview Point is unsnapped, so go and snap it on 00:43:882 - on every diff!

Is there any special reason Kiai on your Extreme diff is different than the other two diffs mapped by you? If not, you should try making it the same.
And for some reason you only use the Custom set of hitsounds 30 on your Extreme (and Spec's diff) but not on the other diffs mapped by you. GDs can have hitsounds placed however they want, but you should make hitsounding on your diffs consistent for the mere effect of it.
For all GDs other than Spec's: 00:02:592 - Maybe you should consider using the Normal addition for the finish hitsound (or the drum-C:30 sampleset) on this beat. Sounds a bit more fitting IMO.
Other things seem to be okay.

[Lust's Beginner]

00:09:044 (1,1) - Aren't those objects a little closer to each other on the timeline? I think beginners need more time to prepare to hit something after an spinner, since some newbies spin quite crazily. Also, the circle is already visible before spinner ends, and it may confuse players since they may not know a hitobject can appear while there is an spinner on-screen. For this, I suggest erasing the circle 00:13:560 (1) - since ending the spinner earlier would be unfitting to the song IMO.
00:22:592 (3) - I think changing the "Additions" of the tail (end) of the slider to "Normal" fits better with the sound in this beat, as a Normal finish sounds like that psh-ish sound.
00:51:624 (4) - Well, a small part of the tail of this is out of screen on 4:3 resolution, but it shouldn't be an issue as slider is perfectly playable and the borders and reverse are on-screen. Just mentioning it since I'd suggest to make it fit on screen.
01:18:721 (3,4) - The blanket seems to need a bit of checking. Minor thing, but it's there. (>.<)/
01:54:850 (3) - I was wondering what's the reason for the clap on the reverse, if there's any...
02:06:463 (1,1) - Same thing as 00:09:044 (1,1) - as this seems to be pretty complex for beginners since you stack 02:11:946 (2,3) - and if that circle (02:10:656 (1) - ) takes them by surprise, they might not play that stack properly.
Nice Beginner diff. I was only a bit nitpicky on the mod, but maybe it can be a bit useful (actually, I hope it is >.<)

[Standard]

0:23:237 - Maybe changing the hitsounding addition to Normal works a bit better here? I think Normal finish fits a bit more on this kind of sound.
00:38:721 (1) - This is a bit weird to play once you're testing it. Yeah, I know you're following the chime (?) here, but it's still ankward to play as players don't expect slider to end on a 1/2 note and then they have to play a note 3/2 beats apart (00:39:689 (2) - ). Maybe you should extend the slider to
00:39:366 - since that's the expected place for it to end.
00:43:882 (1,2,3,4) - You know... the finish HS doesn't really work on the reverse and end of those sliders. It sounds a bit unfitting, and I suggest to delete it. Same thing goes to the following pattern.
01:01:947 (1,2) - The blanket here needs a slight fix, as well as the one on 01:18:721 (3,1) - and 01:32:592 (5,1) -
01:45:818 (1,2,1,2) - o well, I guess I don't need to say what I think about it here (read 00:43:882 (1,2,3,4) - ).
02:10:656 (1) - Hm... I was kinda expecting a whistle on the head of this. Same for 02:12:591 (2) -

Nice and fitting diff. There were some other blankets I didn't mentioned since I don't wanna blanket-spam mod. Just did it to make you aware of it.

[Hyper]

00:21:302 (2,3) - Well, I kinda thought of moving this a bit upside merely to avoid the overlapping. Minor business, but it should also enhance your flow a little bit.
00:37:108 (4,1) - Yeah, blanket.
00:38:237 (3,1) - I think those are too close to each other. At first, I thought this was only a 1/2 beat apart until I noticed the approach circle. Maybe you should space them a bit further, to indicate the 1/1 gap better.
00:43:882 - Well, you know what I think of this section since I said so in Normal, right? (hitsounds) Same for 01:45:818 - ;w;
00:46:382 - Place note here for a triplet? Should work as a warning for your next patterns, since you start placing notes 1/4 apart of each other.
01:22:592 (1) - I'm glad there are sliderticks that showed me the way, since the shape here's so ambiguous. Maybe you should make the center of the slider visible like this (well, not exactly; but I think you'll get my point).
01:55:495 (2,1) - Fix blanket a bit. Same for symmetrical 01:56:786 (2,1,2) -
02:10:656 (1) - Swap whistle in the tail to the head, maybe? Fits better IMO.
02:20:656 (1,2) - Maybe fits better if you place the whistle on first slider's tail and remove the one on the head of second one.
02:23:559 (3) - Maybe place a whistle on the head? Keep the one at the tail, through.
02:26:140 - Whistle?
02:26:785 (2,3) - ^ (on the heads)

Well, I think that's it. Hitsounding is a little unfitting (mentioned it ^), but overall it's a fine diff. o/

o the following diffs are too OP for me to mod (like damn, I can't even play the Another properly; too much overlapping patterns >.<) Sorry, but I have to leave mod until here as I don't think I'll be able to judge diff properly.

Map is okay overall, and there's always a little bit of diff spike at the end of all diffs, allowing to close gaps and make a fluid diff transition.

Hopefully this will be ranked soon. Good luck.

Off-topic Edit: Oh, 500 posts finally. Yay!

Lust Edit: I ended up editing this post somehow and screwing up with the formatting, I have a back up copy but unfortunately the formatting is gone :C My apologies!

Lust Edit v2: Fixed the formatting \o/

Last edited by Lust 2015-04-21T03:08:20+00:00, edited 7 times in total.

VINXIS

Featured Artist

3,161 posts

Joined April 2014

VINXIS 2015-04-18T13:39:26+00:00

ARE YOU SERIOUS I HAVE THE EXACT SAME DNB SAMPLE LMAOO

general

Lust

00:51:624 (4) - p sure dis is wayyyyyy offscreen
01:40:334 (2) - to keep the rhythmical consistency I'd say u sud add a circle here but yea
idk it's mostly just rhythmically inconsistent tbh throughout the diff but it looks p nice n safe so

Std mode

00:32:270 (3) - would say 2 make dis str8 cuz slider consistency or w/e but yea it doesnt rlly matter
01:25:818 (2,3) - if ur gunna use this rhythmic pattern then i'd strongly advise u to use it forward on too, because i was expecting it to play out like this at 01:28:721 (2,3) - too me mane
02:10:656 (1,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ugly af overlap ngl zzz

GET HYPER

00:49:770 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - would say u sudnt do this here because ur usual hard player doesn't have dis kinda finger control but yea
01:46:786 (3,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwuglyoverlap
02:10:656 (1) - woah ok i'd suggest using larger spacing because i thought the rhythmical distance between the slider and circle was 1/2 nd not 1/1 or smth zzz

kentORZ

00:54:205 (1) - would lower sv a bit at this whole part imo it's a teensy weensy bit 2 op but w/e
nice gh

eXTREMEMEMEREMR

ok nice diff i guess lol nothing that was rlly bad imo

ok

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2015-04-19T01:37:47+00:00

LixRei

LixRei wrote:
Yo. Modding from queue.

[Overview]

The following hitsound is unused (according to the unused hitsounds app):
drum-hitnormal30.wav -> And for some reason, it doesn't open when I try to hear it with Windows Player?
Inconsistency with Preview Point on Extreme and Spec's Overdose? You need to fix it, making preview point the same ~~as the other diffs.~~ Nvm, just noticed Preview Point is unsnapped, so go and snap it on 00:43:882 - on every diff!
Is there any special reason Kiai on your Extreme diff is different than the other two diffs mapped by you? If not, you should try making it the same. -what? i'm pretty sure they're the same.
And for some reason you only use the Custom set of hitsounds 30 on your Extreme (and Spec's diff) but not on the other diffs mapped by you. GDs can have hitsounds placed however they want, but you should make hitsounding on your diffs consistent for the mere effect of it. - I'd rather just leave the 30 sampleset to peak diffs, i suppose.
For all GDs other than Spec's: 00:02:592 - Maybe you should consider using the Normal addition for the finish hitsound (or the drum-C:30 sampleset) on this beat. Sounds a bit more fitting IMO.
Other things seem to be okay.

[Standard]

01:45:818 (1,2,1,2) - o well, I guess I don't need to say what I think about it here (read 00:43:882 (1,2,3,4) - ). - i'm gonna keep the finishes anyway, they fit the intensity imo
Nice and fitting diff. There were some other blankets I didn't mentioned since I don't wanna blanket-spam mod. Just did it to make you aware of it.

[Hyper]

00:21:302 (2,3) - Well, I kinda thought of moving this a bit upside merely to avoid the overlapping. Minor business, but it should also enhance your flow a little bit. - overlapping is intentional. changed slider shape of (2) though
00:37:108 (4,1) - Yeah, blanket. - this one's fine rn
00:46:382 - Place note here for a triplet? Should work as a warning for your next patterns, since you start placing notes 1/4 apart of each other.
01:22:592 (1) - I'm glad there are sliderticks that showed me the way, since the shape here's so ambiguous. Maybe you should make the center of the slider visible like this (well, not exactly; but I think you'll get my point). -eh, i want the shape symmetrical kinda
02:10:656 (1) - Swap whistle in the tail to the head, maybe? Fits better IMO. -suggestions from this onward, i had remapped this section.
Well, I think that's it. Hitsounding is a little unfitting (mentioned it ^), but overall it's a fine diff. o/

o the following diffs are too OP for me to mod (like damn, I can't even play the Another properly; too much overlapping patterns >.<) Sorry, but I have to leave mod until here as I don't think I'll be able to judge diff properly.

Map is okay overall, and there's always a little bit of diff spike at the end of all diffs, allowing to close gaps and make a fluid diff transition.

Hopefully this will be ranked soon. Good luck.

Off-topic Edit: Oh, 500 posts finally. Yay!

memelord

SPOILER

VINXIS wrote:
ARE YOU SERIOUS I HAVE THE EXACT SAME DNB SAMPLE LMAOO
general
Std mode
00:32:270 (3) - would say 2 make dis str8 cuz slider consistency or w/e but yea it doesnt rlly matter -meh
01:25:818 (2,3) - if ur gunna use this rhythmic pattern then i'd strongly advise u to use it forward on too, because i was expecting it to play out like this at 01:28:721 (2,3) - too me mane - decided to just make this 1/1 stuff
GET HYPER
01:46:786 (3,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwuglyoverlap -pls
02:10:656 (1) - woah ok i'd suggest using larger spacing because i thought the rhythmical distance between the slider and circle was 1/2 nd not 1/1 or smth zzz -remapped this section
eXTREMEMEMEREMR
ok nice diff i guess lol nothing that was rlly bad imo -thx mang

ok

thanks for mods!

Lust

osu! Alumni

2,667 posts

Joined January 2013

Lust 2015-04-21T02:54:59+00:00

LixRei

[Lust's Beginner]

00:09:044 (1,1) - Aren't those objects a little closer to each other on the timeline? I think beginners need more time to prepare to hit something after an spinner, since some newbies spin quite crazily. Also, the circle is already visible before spinner ends, and it may confuse players since they may not know a hitobject can appear while there is an spinner on-screen. For this, I suggest erasing the circle 00:13:560 (1) - since ending the spinner earlier would be unfitting to the song IMO. fixed (this diff was made before people were so sensitive over spinner recovery times)
00:22:592 (3) - I think changing the "Additions" of the tail (end) of the slider to "Normal" fits better with the sound in this beat, as a Normal finish sounds like that psh-ish sound. i'll leave this to toybot to fix, as i just copied hitsounds
00:51:624 (4) - Well, a small part of the tail of this is out of screen on 4:3 resolution, but it shouldn't be an issue as slider is perfectly playable and the borders and reverse are on-screen. Just mentioning it since I'd suggest to make it fit on screen. ffs, fixed
01:18:721 (3,4) - The blanket seems to need a bit of checking. Minor thing, but it's there. (>.<)/ looks fine to me, and this is practically unnoticeable in gameplay anyway
01:54:850 (3) - I was wondering what's the reason for the clap on the reverse, if there's any... dont ask me ask toybot
02:06:463 (1,1) - Same thing as 00:09:044 (1,1) - as this seems to be pretty complex for beginners since you stack 02:11:946 (2,3) - and if that circle (02:10:656 (1) - ) takes them by surprise, they might not play that stack properly. i have no idea what you just said here, but removed one of the circles for more recovery time

nothing changed from VINXIS's mod
thank you for the mods

diff

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: ujicoclone xeno.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43882
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:XENO
TitleUnicode:XΣNΦ
Artist:Ujico&CLONE
ArtistUnicode:Ujico&CLONE
Creator:toybot
Version:Lust's Beginner
Source:BMS
Tags:spectator kenterz kenterz9 lust bof2013 bms of fighters 2013 fantasia tano-c dtm
BeatmapID:462207
BeatmapSetID:193373

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:1.5
ApproachRate:3
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toybot please apply the hitsounds for me, thank you

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2015-04-22T23:05:20+00:00

gg son

Spectator

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,780 posts

Joined February 2011

Spectator 2015-04-26T03:13:31+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
This is out of my comfort zone when it comes to playing, trying my best.

[Spec's Overdose]
00:19:689 (2) - You can try to move this a bit to the right (I tried x:248 and it felt good, but you can try some other positions) to emphasize the drum a bit more. fixed
00:20:657 (3) - I think (that's what I see) that the right side of the screen is more crowded with bananas in the spinner, so doing Ctrl+H on this one might lead to some more spinning competition cool
00:30:657 (7,1) - I'm not really fond of the antiflow here, I think moving 00:30:979 (1,2) - to x:480 provides a better flow. wanna keep this
00:34:528 (3) - I think this should be a 1/2, the same sound that the 1/4 is mapped to can be heard on the red tick at 00:35:173 (2) - . Also, the same sound is ignored on 00:34:044 (2) - , so it would be better for consistency. though I can still hear the sound at 00:34:770 - , sorry gonna keep mine
00:36:947 (8) - I think Ctrl+G on this makes for a better flow I personally prefer current flow, sorry
00:38:399 (8,1) - I think this part could have more spacing to emphasize the 1/1 slider a bit more. I think the following pattern for 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - plays nice: fixed
SPOILER
00:41:947 (5,6,7) - Noob player stuff: I think moving (6) to x:332 and (7) to x:180 makes this easier to catch after the hyperdash, making it more enjoyable by not-so-pro players. oh sure, fixed
00:51:060 (4) - I like this when Ctrl+G'd. Maybe curving 00:51:302 (5,6,7,8,1) - a bit also makes it flow better fixed
00:54:044 (3) - Moving this to the left a bit may make it easier to catch after the large hyperdash. fixed
01:12:270 (2) - Moving this to the right (I tried x:136) will leave the player in a better position to catch bananas and will still have the hyperdash. fixed
01:19:366 (3) - I think this is a large jump, really close to hyperdash, which doesn't feel right to me. I think reducing distance a bit (x:24, for example) gives a better feeling. fixed
01:43:721 (4,1) - This movement is a bit counter-intuitive. Also, both 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - play the same while the second one sounds stronger. My suggestion is to put 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - closer to the center (like this) and Ctrl+H on 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - nice idea
01:51:705 (4,5,6,7,8) - I think you can Ctrl+H this to, first, make 01:51:463 (3,4) - easier, and give more emphasis on 01:52:189 (8,1) - I prefer mine ;w;

Hope something of this is actually useful.

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machol30

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1,134 posts

Joined January 2008

machol30 2015-04-26T03:13:57+00:00

Sorry again for tardy mod.

Unfortunately, there are some things that I am going to neglect to really have a look at, such as new combos.

[General]
In my opinion, the blue combo colors need to contrast more. There needs to be a greater progression among the combo colors.

[Lust's Beginner]
00:34:044 (3) - I'm not sure about the hitsound for the ending of this slider. :/ It feels awkward to me having its pair (00:38:076 (3)) so far away without anything to match in between. But maybe that's just me. Ignore if you'd like.
The first kiai time seemed to lack consistency to me. It starts off like the rest of the map, then gets more intense at 01:31:624 (2,3,1,2,3), and then dies back down again. Why not have the greater intensity all throughout the kiai time?
01:53:237 (3,1,2,3) - Isolated claps make no sense to me.

[Standard]
00:43:237 (1) - Personally, I don't like short sliders like these. I would just have a standard hitcircle, but I guess that's just personal.
00:51:624 (1,2,3,4) - I would consider continuing the hitfinish sounds. It's awkwards as it then feels empty here while the section following seems too strong by comparison. It surprised me.
01:02:270 (2,3,2) - Same thing here. I want to see the momentum keep going.
01:53:560 (3) - I like the switch here. However, I still think that there's room for improvement here. I can't really tell you what to do here. You'll have to experiment, or if not, that's fine too.

[Hyper]
Same things apply here as in [Standard].
00:16:302 (2,1) - In general in this map, I would be careful about overlapping sliders. Some of it is okay, but when it's really close like this, it's unappealing to me.

[Kentez's Another]
00:02:592 (3,4,1,2,1,1) - I think that these are just too close together. I would separate them more across the playfield and avoid stay monotonously close to the center.
00:23:237 (1) - I would get together about what to do with this hitsound. It should be consistent among all difficulties.
00:43:237 (4) - I have a similar comment for this as in [Standard]. However, I think it fits better here due to the faster pace. I would actually probably keep it.

For the kiai times, I would consider adding in some of the normal finishes that are in the other difficulties. Just something to consider. Same thing with the soft whistles in the last section. Keeping the consistency among difficulties. Speak amongst yourself regarding this matter.
Wow! I love the patterns in this one!!

[Extreme]
Pretty good in my opinion!

Love them patterns and hitsounds. Maybe others will hate, but oh well.

The main things to take away from this I guess would be keeping consistency where it really matters among all difficulties even with multiple mappers in my opinion. I also think that easier difficulties a lacking. They don't have the consistency in hitsounds, patterns, rhythm, and the like. Maybe I need to dig deeper, but I don't really see it on the surface.

Best of luck!
Daniel

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2015-04-27T15:31:42+00:00

buraimaster1234 wrote:
Sorry again for tardy mod.

Unfortunately, there are some things that I am going to neglect to really have a look at, such as new combos.

[General]
In my opinion, the blue combo colors need to contrast more. There needs to be a greater progression among the combo colors. - I'll try to apply this when everything is updated

[Standard]
00:43:237 (1) - Personally, I don't like short sliders like these. I would just have a standard hitcircle, but I guess that's just personal. -changed
00:51:624 (1,2,3,4) - I would consider continuing the hitfinish sounds. It's awkwards as it then feels empty here while the section following seems too strong by comparison. It surprised me. - this part is kind of a buildup, thus a bit calmer
01:02:270 (2,3,2) - Same thing here. I want to see the momentum keep going. -changed
01:53:560 (3) - I like the switch here. However, I still think that there's room for improvement here. I can't really tell you what to do here. You'll have to experiment, or if not, that's fine too.

[Hyper]
Same things apply here as in [Standard].
00:16:302 (2,1) - In general in this map, I would be careful about overlapping sliders. Some of it is okay, but when it's really close like this, it's unappealing to me. - it doesn't overlap really there, i think it's fine. all overlaps are intentional tbh

[Extreme]
Pretty good in my opinion! Love them patterns and hitsounds. Maybe others will hate, but oh well. - c:

The main things to take away from this I guess would be keeping consistency where it really matters among all difficulties even with multiple mappers in my opinion. I also think that easier difficulties a lacking. They don't have the consistency in hitsounds, patterns, rhythm, and the like. Maybe I need to dig deeper, but I don't really see it on the surface.

Best of luck!
Daniel

thanks!

Deif

Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon

3,564 posts

Joined April 2010

Deif 2015-04-28T16:29:09+00:00

Awesome song and mapset. Just passing by~

[Extreme]

02:05:739 (8) - This note is unsnapped! There are other notes in the surroundings that are also slightly snapped (though AIMod doesn't detect those), so you might give a general check to the map, or simply get the objects snapped with the Timing control panel.

[Overdose]

I wouldn't use those kiai flashes. Strong hitsounds make those spots relevant enough, and triggering such short kiais could make some PCs lag. Try to avoid the ones of 00:23:237 - 02:10:011 - .
00:54:205 - This kiai flash can also be avoided. It's true that in some songs the kiais can be "halved" like that, though the pace in this one is quite continuous. I'd rather let a longer kiai than 2 smaller ones in this case.
Some jumps in the kiai times felt slightly off. Checking the timeline some inconsistencies were detected, so you might take a look at then. It's about the distance of some slider and the position of the jumps there:
SPOILER
1. 00:54:205 (1,2) - The distance of those sliders should be the other way around (1/2 and 3/4) http://puu.sh/hu1fz/ce944f7e3a.jpg. In other similar chords, that was the order of the sliders, and it was more confortable to play imo.
2. 00:54:850 (3,4) - ^
3. 00:55:495 (5,6) - ^
4. 00:56:141 (7,8) - In this case, the sound of the beat is the same as in previous examples, though you prefered to insert the jump already at the red tick.
5. 00:56:786 (1,2) - We come again to the 3/4-1/2 sliders, which should be 1/2-3/4 instead
6. 00:57:431 (3,4) - ^
7. 00:58:076 (1,2) - And here again, you changed it back to a 1/2-3/4 thingy.
8. 00:59:366 (1,2) - uguguguuu
9. 01:56:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - More examples of those sliders can be found here and below.
10. 01:58:721 (1,2) -
11. 02:01:302 (1,2) -
12. 02:02:592 (1,2) -
01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - I'm seeing that lately quite often. Those notes, referring to (1) and (3), are in the plain border of the screen and the probabilities that the catcher hits the wall are high > loss of stability by hitting the wall > odd playgame sensation that can lead to a miss. Try to distance slightly those beats from the edges of the screen.
02:05:818 (1) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?).
02:05:980 (2) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?).

[]
I think CLSW wanted to take a look at it tomorrow as well, so I'll let him do it. If there wasn't any answer in a few days, feel free to call me for a recheck!

toybot

1,050 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

toybot 2015-04-29T00:48:07+00:00

kenterz gave me permission to change his diff

Didn't change from vinxis since I personally think SV there is fine as an intensifier

buraimaster1234 wrote:
[Kentez's Another]
00:02:592 (3,4,1,2,1,1) - I think that these are just too close together. I would separate them more across the playfield and avoid stay monotonously close to the center. - I think having the sliders like this at this distance is fine and plays well as a calm part.
00:23:237 (1) - I would get together about what to do with this hitsound. It should be consistent among all difficulties. -changed
00:43:237 (4) - I have a similar comment for this as in [Standard]. However, I think it fits better here due to the faster pace. I would actually probably keep it.
For the kiai times, I would consider adding in some of the normal finishes that are in the other difficulties. Just something to consider. Same thing with the soft whistles in the last section. Keeping the consistency among difficulties. Speak amongst yourself regarding this matter.
Wow! I love the patterns in this one!!

Best of luck!
Daniel

fixed unsnapped note from Deif in Extreme

waiting for spec's response

Spectator

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,780 posts

Joined February 2011

Spectator 2015-04-29T02:26:12+00:00

Deif wrote:
Awesome song and mapset. Just passing by~

[Extreme]
02:05:739 (8) - This note is unsnapped! There are other notes in the surroundings that are also slightly snapped (though AIMod doesn't detect those), so you might give a general check to the map, or simply get the objects snapped with the Timing control panel.
[Overdose]
I wouldn't use those kiai flashes. Strong hitsounds make those spots relevant enough, and triggering such short kiais could make some PCs lag. Try to avoid the ones of 00:23:237 - 02:10:011 - . I'd keep mine, I thought hitsounds were not enough
00:54:205 - This kiai flash can also be avoided. It's true that in some songs the kiais can be "halved" like that, though the pace in this one is quite continuous. I'd rather let a longer kiai than 2 smaller ones in this case. makes sense, removed
Some jumps in the kiai times felt slightly off. Checking the timeline some inconsistencies were detected, so you might take a look at then. It's about the distance of some slider and the position of the jumps there:
SPOILER
00:54:205 (1,2) - The distance of those sliders should be the other way around (1/2 and 3/4) http://puu.sh/hu1fz/ce944f7e3a.jpg. In other similar chords, that was the order of the sliders, and it was more confortable to play imo. fixed
00:54:850 (3,4) - ^ ^
00:55:495 (5,6) - ^ ^
00:56:141 (7,8) - In this case, the sound of the beat is the same as in previous examples, though you prefered to insert the jump already at the red tick.
00:56:786 (1,2) - We come again to the 3/4-1/2 sliders, which should be 1/2-3/4 instead ^
00:57:431 (3,4) - ^ ^
00:58:076 (1,2) - And here again, you changed it back to a 1/2-3/4 thingy. ^
00:59:366 (1,2) - uguguguuu ^
01:56:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - More examples of those sliders can be found here and below. ^
01:58:721 (1,2) - ^
02:01:302 (1,2) - ^
02:02:592 (1,2) -

01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - I'm seeing that lately quite often. Those notes, referring to (1) and (3), are in the plain border of the screen and the probabilities that the catcher hits the wall are high > loss of stability by hitting the wall > odd playgame sensation that can lead to a miss. Try to distance slightly those beats from the edges of the screen. ok, fixed
02:05:818 (1) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?). fixed as well
02:05:980 (2) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?). ^
[]
I think CLSW wanted to take a look at it tomorrow as well, so I'll let him do it. If there wasn't any answer in a few days, feel free to call me for a recheck!

It's quite surprising, I thought all ctb QATs are interested only in clsw's maps

anyway, thanks for the mod

overdose

osu file format v14

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CLSW

osu! Alumni

2,182 posts

Joined October 2010

CLSW 2015-04-29T10:24:54+00:00

[General]
02:10:011 Is this redline necessary? It's just a half of the general bpm 186, so you may remove and add 0.5x SV change instead.

[Spec's Overdose]
00:14:044 (4,1) - 여기에 조그만 점프 하나 넣어두시는게 좋을거같습니다.
00:17:915 (3) - 하이퍼대시는 곡 분위기상 그렇게 좋아보이진 않은데 그냥 롱 점프 하나로 대신하시는게
00:43:076 (2) - 하이퍼대시 넣어주시면 잘 어울릴거같네요. 저는 00:43:237 (3) - 을 x : 304로 옮겨봤습니다.
02:20:978 (2,3) - Same as 00:14:044 (4,1)

그 외 다른 파트들은 흠잡을 곳이 없네요. 정말 잘 만드셨습니다.

/me pokes deif

Spectator

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

1,780 posts

Joined February 2011

Spectator 2015-04-29T11:16:53+00:00

CLSW wrote:
[General]
02:10:011 Is this redline necessary? It's just a half of the general bpm 186, so you may remove and add 0.5x SV change instead. /me pokes toybot

[Spec's Overdose]
00:14:044 (4,1) - 여기에 조그만 점프 하나 넣어두시는게 좋을거같습니다.
00:17:915 (3) - 하이퍼대시는 곡 분위기상 그렇게 좋아보이진 않은데 그냥 롱 점프 하나로 대신하시는게
00:43:076 (2) - 하이퍼대시 넣어주시면 잘 어울릴거같네요. 저는 00:43:237 (3) - 을 x : 304로 옮겨봤습니다.
02:20:978 (2,3) - Same as 00:14:044 (4,1) 여긴 유지하겠습니다.

그 외 다른 파트들은 흠잡을 곳이 없네요. 정말 잘 만드셨습니다.

/me pokes deif

osu file format v14

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214,202,121866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
275,212,121947,1,4,0:0:0:0:
337,221,122028,6,0,P|393:204|460:219,1,111.599996594238,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
291,300,122270,2,0,L|184:315,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,127,122431,2,0,L|475:142,1,55.7999982971192
227,67,122592,6,0,L|58:112,1,167.399994891358,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,155,122915,2,0,L|342:189,1,111.599996594238,12|2,1:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
390,189,123157,1,0,0:0:0:0:
445,188,123237,1,4,0:0:0:0:
501,188,123318,6,0,L|389:194,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
237,228,123560,1,12,1:0:0:0:
176,223,123641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,218,123721,1,2,0:0:0:0:
55,213,123802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
3,208,123882,5,12,1:0:0:0:
382,277,124044,1,8,1:0:0:0:
252,221,124205,1,8,1:1:0:0:
126,166,124366,1,8,1:1:0:0:
509,208,124528,5,12,1:0:0:0:
130,277,124689,1,8,1:0:0:0:
260,221,124850,1,8,1:1:0:0:
386,166,125011,1,8,1:1:0:0:
115,47,125173,5,4,1:0:0:0:
76,71,125254,1,4,1:0:0:0:
50,109,125335,1,4,1:0:0:0:
37,153,125415,1,4,1:0:0:0:
38,199,125496,1,4,1:0:0:0:
54,243,125577,1,4,1:0:0:0:
85,277,125657,1,4,1:0:0:0:
128,297,125738,1,4,1:0:0:0:
452,126,125818,6,12,L|492:139,1,27.8999991485596,12|12,1:1|1:1,1:1:0:0:
60,258,125980,2,12,L|21:245,1,27.8999991485596,12|12,1:1|1:1,1:1:0:0:
491,275,126141,2,8,L|482:316,7,27.8999991485596,8|8|8|8|8|8|8|8,1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1,1:1:0:0:
179,337,126463,5,2,1:3:0:0:
256,192,126544,12,0,129689,0:0:0:0:
255,133,130011,6,0,P|128:140|60:116,1,186,4|2,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,105,131140,2,0,L|340:105,1,46.5,0|2,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
158,262,131623,2,0,L|266:278,1,93,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,156,132591,6,0,L|280:120,1,186,0|0,1:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
112,88,133881,2,0,L|236:72,1,93,2|4,1:1|1:0,1:0:0:0:
192,176,135172,6,0,L|8:152,1,186,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,88,136301,2,0,L|200:80,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
304,280,136785,2,0,L|196:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,176,137752,6,0,L|504:152,1,186,0|2,1:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
269,128,138881,2,0,L|224:140,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
70,78,139365,2,0,L|162:96,1,93,0|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,284,140333,6,0,L|368:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,180,140978,2,0,L|304:140,1,139.5,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
336,147,141623,2,0,L|336:44,1,93,2|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
200,192,142269,2,0,L|200:295,1,93,2|0,2:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
52,56,142914,6,0,L|52:252,1,186,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,344,144204,2,0,P|452:208|308:68,1,372,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
200,116,146140,6,0,L|401:147,1,186,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,285,147752,6,0,P|267:239|326:130,1,232.5,0|14,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:

others are fixed
thanks

toybot

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toybot 2015-04-29T23:26:55+00:00

@CLSW I believe the red line halving BPM is fine, since there's such a huge change of pace there.

updated

Deif

Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon

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Deif 2015-04-30T14:52:24+00:00

Spectator wrote:
It's quite surprising, I thought all ctb QATs are interested only in clsw's maps

I'll slap you if you keep thinking like that

DeletedUser_1574070

DeletedUser_1574070 2015-05-04T13:13:54+00:00

Special

00:15:495 (1) - i think its better curved outside than inside so http://puu.sh/hB3tR/c2a7e0c758.jpg
01:18:560 - try add a circle here

nothing else. gud

Another

01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - try make this pattern more symmetrical

toybot

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toybot 2015-05-04T23:06:05+00:00

Kloyd wrote:
Special
00:15:495 (1) - i think its better curved outside than inside so http://puu.sh/hB3tR/c2a7e0c758.jpg - I think shape right now is cleaner
01:18:560 - try add a circle here - added

nothing else. gud

Another
01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - try make this pattern more symmetrical - added

I feel like there'll be more, but thx for mod +star!

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2015-05-09T02:32:26+00:00

can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz

[general]

softclap30 and softslidertick50 delay

[lust]

01:53:237 (3,1,2,3) - default claps sound really out of place. if you were using N:C1 it would be fine but default claps just don't compliment the song at all

[standard]

00:31:624 (2) - 00:41:302 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 00:28:399 (1) - 00:29:689 (3) - 00:32:270 (3) -
00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is there a reason why these change from 1.0x spacing to 0.9x? music isn't doing anything fancy so spacing decrease seems just weird
00:51:302 (4,1,2,3,4) - would probably make more sense to have the 1.1x increase starting at 00:54:205 (1) - since music gets more intenseidunno. having it in hte middle of the phrase seems unfitting
01:20:011 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 01:14:850 (1) -
01:27:753 (1) - head whistle inconsistent with the other stuff yayeeya

[hyper]

00:02:592 (2) - hitsound tho
00:53:560 (1) - so far into the hp bar holy
00:54:044 (2,3,1) - stack leniency stuff causes an overlap with this and the previous object, so would probably be good to move stuff down to counteract that
01:17:915 (2) - would be nice to lower volume for the slidertickclap to like 45%. right now it's louder than the head and tail which can be obnoxious (especially when it's just there to compliment the song instead of actually matching it). would also apply to insane/special's tick hitsounds
01:33:721 (2) - finish on head cuz ya

[insane]

00:31:624 (3) - 00:34:044 (2) - whistle on tail for reasons

[kenterz]

i can't tell what some of your spacing is supposed to be emphasizing. take the section at 00:12:915 (1) - as an example -- i get that you want to make the downbeat stand out, but everything else seems to follow nothing. sliders like 00:13:560 (3) - 00:14:850 (3) - 00:16:141 (3) - etc have the same sounds yet spacing varies drastically between all of them. seeing why this map was disqualified could probably help explain things. this applies mostly to the sections at 00:12:915 (1) - and 01:14:850 (1) - , but it really wouldn't hurt to go through the rest of the difficulty and see how spacing can correspond with the song better so things are more intuitive to play
there's also a lot of rhythms that seem to accent weaker sounds while ignoring stronger sounds. for example, 00:34:366 (6) - has the main melody bell sound/snare, whereas head just has a kick. that bell thing is the thing being focused on, so your mapping should indicate that as well. reading the first part of this dq may also be a good idea. some other examples of weird emphasis: 00:38:237 (4) - 00:41:786 (2) - 01:26:302 (1) - 01:28:560 (6) - etc. pretty sure this was what i complained about a lot in your pokemon marathon too lol
00:51:624 (1) - the decreasing volume thing as an idea is fine, but right now it's too quiet. soft sampleset is pretty much inaudible at 35% when song is super loud. furthermore volume only goes back up to 50% after this, whereas 65% (what it was before the volume decrease) is a lot more appropriate
01:47:753 (3,6) - would look neater to not have these overlapping
01:48:076 (4,5,6) - spacing is pretty derp. i assume 5 was meant to be stacked
01:55:979 (8,1,2,3) - stack leniency makes these look probably not like what you were intending. may wnat to move things so they're in the right places yeayea

[special]sliderbreaks:(

hp7 would be better. doesn't matter that kenterz's diff uses it too, 7.5 is just higher than what the difficulty itself should be (which is why you'll see a lot of extras with lower hp than insanes)
00:58:076 (1,2,3,4) - when initially playing i screwed up here cuz i was expecting anotehr double. music supports my screwing up with emphasis more on 00:58:318 - than 00:58:237 - . would be different from 00:56:947 (2) - since there's some synth sound actually there
02:25:494 (1,2,1,1) - is there a reason why hitsound volumes are higher than other diffs? especially weird the last slider which you made louder whereas other diffs you made softer

so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better

toybot

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toybot 2015-05-09T03:50:51+00:00

deleted = fixed

pishifat wrote:
can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz
http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... f&event=88 (ctrl+F search "fantasia") thats japanese name of artist
https://soundcloud.com/ujico/bof2013-x-n soundcloud of artist, provides english translation (Ujico+CLONE)
turns out i should've done some checking before getting this pushed lol

[standard]
00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is there a reason why these change from 1.0x spacing to 0.9x? music isn't doing anything fancy so spacing decrease seems just weird - oh i was just being retarded
01:20:011 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 01:14:850 (1) - normal-hitfinish30 is basically that one whistle here
[special]sliderbreaks:(
02:25:494 (1,2,1,1) - is there a reason why hitsound volumes are higher than other diffs? especially weird the last slider which you made louder whereas other diffs you made softer -oops
so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better

thanks for mod!

Cherry Blossom

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Cherry Blossom 2015-05-16T14:58:41+00:00

Metadata ?
The artist name should be : ひつじとおじさん
Assume the official source is the BMS site, where you can find this BMS version. "Ujico&CLONE" are not mentionned.

___________________
Let me tell you another case like this :
For example, another BMS song : Rune Caster - TYR

And, "Music : Rune Caster a.k.a LhoU" https://soundcloud.com/lhoustudio/pabat ... une-caster

You see that there are conflicts with Artist name, but assume the official Artist name comes from the official source where you can find the BMS

no KD please.

toybot

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toybot 2015-05-16T16:04:30+00:00

I already implemented the Japanese artist name when i replied to pishifat's mod.

I'm still pretty sure that the English artist name is supposed to be "Ujico+CLONE";

In the description of https://soundcloud.com/ujico/bof2013-x-n, it says "曲：ひつじとおじさん(Ujico+CLONE)".

Thanks!

AruOtta

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AruOtta 2015-05-19T18:47:42+00:00

pishifat wrote:
can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz

[kenterz]
i can't tell what some of your spacing is supposed to be emphasizing. take the section at 00:12:915 (1) - as an example -- i get that you want to make the downbeat stand out, but everything else seems to follow nothing. sliders like 00:13:560 (3) - 00:14:850 (3) - 00:16:141 (3) - etc have the same sounds yet spacing varies drastically between all of them. seeing why this map was disqualified could probably help explain things. this applies mostly to the sections at 00:12:915 (1) - and 01:14:850 (1) - , but it really wouldn't hurt to go through the rest of the difficulty and see how spacing can correspond with the song better so things are more intuitive to play
I don't really understand what you mean, the spacing I choose doesn't follow any beat, it's just for the construction of the pattern, so for the moment no changes =/
there's also a lot of rhythms that seem to accent weaker sounds while ignoring stronger sounds. for example, 00:34:366 (6) - has the main melody bell sound/snare, whereas head just has a kick. that bell thing is the thing being focused on, so your mapping should indicate that as well. reading the first part of this dq may also be a good idea. some other examples of weird emphasis: 00:38:237 (4) - 00:41:786 (2) - 01:26:302 (1) - 01:28:560 (6) - etc. pretty sure this was what i complained about a lot in your pokemon marathon too lol
Done (I guess)
00:51:624 (1) - the decreasing volume thing as an idea is fine, but right now it's too quiet. soft sampleset is pretty much inaudible at 35% when song is super loud. furthermore volume only goes back up to 50% after this, whereas 65% (what it was before the volume decrease) is a lot more appropriate Done
01:47:753 (3,6) - would look neater to not have these overlapping Done
01:48:076 (4,5,6) - spacing is pretty derp. i assume 5 was meant to be stacked Done
01:55:979 (8,1,2,3) - stack leniency makes these look probably not like what you were intending. may wnat to move things so they're in the right places yeayea Done
so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better

Thanks for mod :3
http://puu.sh/hTfKS.osu

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2015-05-19T22:04:05+00:00

Kenterz wrote:
I don't really understand what you mean, the spacing I choose doesn't follow any beat, it's just for the construction of the pattern, so for the moment no changes =/

spacing section under hard: p/4169396
first section under insane: p/4125664
usage of jumps section: p/4138287
first section: p/4113058
etc

spacing needs to follow the song. even if your current spacing is for "pattern construction," that doesn't exempt it from relation to the music. you can still create whatever patterns you like as long as they're logical when compared to the song's points of emphasis

toybot

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toybot 2015-05-19T22:05:14+00:00

updated

AruOtta

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AruOtta 2015-05-24T09:42:07+00:00

@pishifat : I changed the slow sections

Update : http://puu.sh/hYvE3.osu

KSHR

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KSHR 2015-05-27T10:54:36+00:00

Let me throw my 2 cents because pishifat asked me for help to make sure.

There is the extended version of this song, but in this page, the description doesn't say "(Ujico+CLONE)".

+ Don't you think it's strange to translate ひつじ (sheep) / おじさん(uncle or old man) as Ujico / CLONE?
As the result of searching, apparently Ujico and CLONE (who are Japanese composers) created/uploaded this song under another name. That's why the description says (Ujico+CLONE). So it's completely fine to add Ujico and CLONE to Tags, but not to type them in the artist field imo because it's the almost same thing as altering the artist name.

For these reasons, I think the artist name should be ひつじとおじさん as CherryBlossom posted.

EDIT:

ひつじとおじさん / Hitsuji to Ojisan

toybot

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toybot 2015-05-28T00:36:15+00:00

ok, thank you KSHR + CB! ^^

updated

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2015-05-28T01:51:16+00:00

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ac8129464363 2015-05-28T16:33:36+00:00

hyp3

Krfawy

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Krfawy 2015-05-29T00:55:58+00:00

Hello toybot, popping the bubble because of a wrong usage of rhythms in your map. I wanted to be able to celebrate your happiness in #ctb and qualify it, but I can't. However, I am totally surprised with that since the map was bubbled by pishifat who should notice the different offset for the instruments but he just bubbled it.

The whole mapset
Instead of 1/4 rhythms (which follows the very PIANO sounds) there should be used 1/8 ones (which follow the... violins... or whatever is it?):

00:16:141 (2) - this should be a 1/8 placed at 00:16:181 - and so on. There is no actual persuccion sound, it's made by the hitsound when there is only the violin sound which is later. Not really much later, but still a little moment later! Let me list it below
00:21:987 (2) - As above.
01:23:237 (3) - Again 1/8.

BTW Kenterz's double kiai line pls. I understand there is a new BPM line, but it's pointless to use 1.0SV green line at the same time. Anyway, maybe you could increase AR to 9.2? Now it might be a bit troublesome to read in my opinion. Hard patterns, you know.

Moddu-moddu:

Special

01:43:237 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - Well... The distance between notes here is a bit too scary for me. Would you be so nice and reduce it a bit? I just find it uncomfortable to play even if those are only sliders. :C
01:57:915 (3,1,2) - And the distance from the slider to those two circles is making me sad here. My personal thoughts, but those are really hardcore even if it's an Extra diff. And that flow kills me. ;_;
02:00:011 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - THESE TOO HOWEVER THOSE MAKES 100% SENSE.

Spec's Overdose

00:23:237 (1) - That sound... Can you be so nice for Krfawy the Blonde and use soft sampleset here? That normal one makes me cry because there is no need for it and it just hurts my ears and it doesn't give any feedback from the song since the drum addition does. :/

So sorry that I'm popping it just because of that, but such an issue would probably cause a simple DQ for not following the proper rhythms. All the rest should be fine. Call me back once you're all done!

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2015-05-29T01:07:06+00:00

uh what

toybot

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toybot 2015-05-29T05:10:18+00:00

Krfawy wrote:

Hello toybot, popping the bubble because of a wrong usage of rhythms in your map. I wanted to be able to celebrate your happiness in #ctb and qualify it, but I can't. However, I am totally surprised with that since the map was bubbled by pishifat who should notice the different offset for the instruments but he just bubbled it. -

The whole mapset
Instead of 1/4 rhythms (which follows the very PIANO sounds) there should be used 1/8 ones (which follow the... violins... or whatever is it?):
00:16:141 (2) - this should be a 1/8 placed at 00:16:181 - and so on. There is no actual persuccion sound, it's made by the hitsound when there is only the violin sound which is later. Not really much later, but still a little moment later! Let me list it below
00:21:987 (2) - As above.
01:23:237 (3) - Again 1/8. - all of these: waaa. these sounds that you are talking about are very short bursts of 1/8, so short that it's kinda pointless to really give them any sort of significance. The violin sounds are supposed to represent the downbeat, not their own rhythm. So, not implemented, sorry
BTW Kenterz's double kiai line pls. I understand there is a new BPM line, but it's pointless to use 1.0SV green line at the same time. Anyway, maybe you could increase AR to 9.2? Now it might be a bit troublesome to read in my opinion. Hard patterns, you know. - deleted green line. for the AR, idk, 9.2 doesn't really seem to make much of a difference. but, meh, I'll go with AR9.2 for the reason being some patterns

Moddu-moddu:

Special - btw, this is renamed to Expert now, since that probably fits BMS better than reflec beat's Special.
01:43:237 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - Well... The distance between notes here is a bit too scary for me. Would you be so nice and reduce it a bit? I just find it uncomfortable to play even if those are only sliders. :C - reduced distance
01:57:915 (3,1,2) - And the distance from the slider to those two circles is making me sad here. My personal thoughts, but those are really hardcore even if it's an Extra diff. And that flow kills me. ;_; - idk, i can't think of anything else, and these play okay tbh
02:00:011 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - THESE TOO HOWEVER THOSE MAKES 100% SENSE. - ayy lmao
Spec's Overdose
00:23:237 (1) - That sound... Can you be so nice for Krfawy the Blonde and use soft sampleset here? That normal one makes me cry because there is no need for it and it just hurts my ears and it doesn't give any feedback from the song since the drum addition does. :/ - hmm.. I think the normal-sampleset fits the best out of all of the available ones, since there's a solid thud in the music at that beat, and the normal copies that feeling very well. Maybe i'll reduce the volume to 60% for all diffs to make it less obnoxious?
So sorry that I'm popping it just because of that, but such an issue would probably cause a simple DQ for not following the proper rhythms. All the rest should be fine. Call me back once you're all done!

thanks mang

Rakuen

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Rakuen 2015-05-29T15:55:40+00:00

As posted on the board by Krfawy, just to clarify the issue.

Krfawy wrote:
The whole mapset
Instead of 1/4 rhythms (which follows the very PIANO sounds) there should be used 1/8 ones (which follow the... violins... or whatever is it?):
00:16:141 (2) - this should be a 1/8 placed at 00:16:181 - and so on. There is no actual persuccion sound, it's made by the hitsound when there is only the violin sound which is later. Not really much later, but still a little moment later! Let me list it below
00:21:987 (2) - As above.
01:23:237 (3) - Again 1/8.

There are drum marks (hi-hat) in the song, violin is obviously a little late, could be problem when composing. Despite, 1/4 and stable rhythm, better for gameplay

Gamu

Elite Mapper

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Gamu 2015-05-30T12:29:17+00:00

Sorry for the delay. I will check your map before Krfawy's bubble~ o/

[Hyper]
・01:03:882 (3) - It doesn't follow the sound at 01:04:124 (repeat). I can't hear the drum sound and the main sound and stuff, so I'd like to recommend that you change to the following rhythm (image).

image

[Insane]
・01:02:834 (3) - I can't hear the sound at there. Try to remove this circle, then change the A to repeat slider. It will very fit the song!

image

・01:43:399 (2) - Unnecessary crap sound. only finish would be good.
・02:05:818 (3) - The same as 01:03:882 (3) of Hyper. two 1/2 sliders would be good.

[Kenterz's Another]
・02:00:011 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Add some new combos in order to easy an understanding of the 1/3 rhythm to the player. I think this is a good suggestion, but I'll leave it to you.

image

[Expert]
・01:01:624 (1) - I can't hear 1/8 sound, so I think it doesn't fit the song. I'd like to recommend that you change to the following rhythm. You should use at such a sound (01:04:205 ~ 01:04:528) if you want to use a 1/8.

image

cool mapset. I hope this will get the rank soon :3

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