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Hitsuji to Ojisan - XENO [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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riffy
osu! Alumni
8,060 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
lol, second Yo, as requested

[General]
  1. I'd rather keep the letterboxes disabled. They don't look good with your BG, in my opinion.
  2. Shouldn't XΣNΦ be mentioned as the title? And the romanized title will be XENO.
  3. Here's the 1366x768 version of your BG, this is the recommended size, so you might want to use it.
  4. There's a little inconsistency in the tags. On the another diff, the last word got messed up a bit. Check it and you'll see.
[Lust's Beginner]
  1. Due to some rather tricky rhythm changes (like 00:32:275 (2,3) - 3/2 pattern) you might want to set your OD a bit lower. It will comfort beginners and help them to deal with the tricky rhythm.
  2. 00:38:081 (3) - the tail of this slider is too colse to the previous hitobject, so, beginner may mistakenly hit it or/and get confused. In order to avoid that, try re-arranging the pattern to make it intuitively understandable.
    Note: if you agree with the suggestion above, try to improve your flow between 00:38:726 (1,2) - these two while applying the previous suggestion. :)
  3. 02:10:661 (1) - the circle appears while the spinner is still spinable. Which creates an untidy overlap. Give more recovery time or place circle in an area where it will be less noticeable (and herefore, less stressful for the beginners).

    Seems pretty well done. Nice job!
[Normal]
  1. 00:09:049 (1) - the head of the slider follows pretty much nothing in music and therefore, feels extra and unnatural.
  2. 00:38:726 (1,2) - try removing (2) and adding a repeat to (1) instead. It will increase playability of the diff and make your rhythm feel more natural.
    Note: check out this guide for more details.
  3. 00:43:887 (1) - tail of the slider is too close to the previous hitobjects, so, the flow feels forced and a bit tricky. Try selecting 00:43:887 (1,2,3,4) - and rotating them by 45.
  4. 00:59:371 (1) - the slider changes its direction kinda suddenly. Which may become sorta unplayable and/or confusing. <oreover, it does not flow good and feels really weird in this diff, to me.
    Note: 02:27:757 (4) - quite a similar thing
  5. 01:12:275 (1,2,3,4) - I would replace them with a spinner. The instruments are pretty quite, and there's a gradually increasing volume, so, a spinner would match better.
  6. 01:29:049 (3) - minor - the overlap with (1) seems untidy and does not flow/look good (it looks out of your style). Mind looking for an alternative pattern? :)

    Seems quite well-done. I did not go with a full and detailed mod since it's only the first mod, but I like what you've got here!
[Hyper]
  1. 00:15:500 (1,2) - the jump feels so lonely at this part. I understand that it is here for the pattern, but adding at least one or two more jumps would make this part more consistent and understandable.
  2. 00:31:629 (3,4) - the jump feels quite lonely here. Adding a little jump between 00:30:823 (4,1) - these two would help you to make the pattern a bit better-balanced and logical.
  3. 00:37:436 (1,2) - minor - I would rather make a jump between these two, to avoid the overlap, which looks a bit untidy, cmparing with the rest of the diff.
  4. 01:16:791 (3,1) - I understand your reason to break the DS here, but why don't you try to stack it with (2) instead? example. The DS difference is lower and it feels more natural + it does not break your flow.
  5. 01:22:597 (1) - I like how the red anchor is used to emphasize the beat in music, good job with this slider. ♥
  6. 01:28:887 (1) - minor - just thinking that the flow would be better if you made a triangle here. The stack does not really work here anyway. Here is no any reason to stop the flow, is there? Example
  7. 02:26:790 (2) - I would rather finish the slider at 02:27:435 - to avoid weird-looking slider tick and to make the rhythm a bit more relaxing.

    Pretty nice. Maybe it needs a bit more consistency and some minor flow improvements, but it looks promising!
[Kenterz's Another]
  1. Increase HP Drain to 7? There is no need to go with so low HP drain. 7 Would match better and make the spread a bit better-balanced, from my point of view.
  2. 00:36:146 (1,2) - unstacking the circle would make it more readable. It is really hard to notice, even with the approach hitcircle, so I would highly suggest to unstack them. Players don't really expect a circle here, so, making it more noticeable sounds like a good idea to me.
  3. 00:37:920 (2,3,4,5) - two 1/4 sliders would match better, just slow down the playback and you will hear it. :)
  4. 00:43:887 - this part feels rather quite comparing to the others and it is really hard to hear some of the hitsounds there. Mind increasing the volume at this part?
  5. 00:53:565 (1) - minor - by moving this slider to the left you can make the jump a bit easier and use a cute blanket with 00:52:920 (1). Example
  6. 01:16:952 (8,9) - the combo chain feels too long and breaks your combo pattern. Try placing a new combo at 01:16:952 (8,9) - one of these objects? Personally, I would go with a new combo at (9) but having one at (8) is also okay.
  7. 01:43:242 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - great pattern, I love how it is done and matches with the diff. ♥
  8. 01:45:500 (5) - just saying, that you might want to add a new combo here, since this stream sounds different from the previous one. Totally upp to you, tho.
  9. 02:06:145 (1) - making the slider path more readable would prevent some possible problems. See if you like this pattern better!

    Not much to say, preetty deent flow, good rhythm.
[54Xe]
I honestly can't see any connection between this name and actual difficulity of the map or the song. Can you please explain why the diff is named this way or rename it to something like Black Another?
  1. 00:34:855 (1,2,3) - these jumps are exaggerated, in my opinion. If you listen to the song, there is pretty much nothing that needs to be stressed with the jumps, so it really hard to read/understand them. Try redcing the DS or keeping it consistent here? The jump from (3) to (4) is cool, though.
  2. 00:46:468 (1) - the sllider tail is curved in a tricky way and changes its direction suddenly, moreover, iit does not fot with the music, and therefore, feels forced. Same applies to some similar sliders like 00:53:162 (2) - 00:54:452 (2) - this one is really tricky - 00:55:500 (1) - after the first one it is more playable, but still can troble some players a bit - 00:56:387 (2) - this is really confusing - 00:59:371 (1,2,3) - most of these sliders can be easily improved by making the curve less agressive.
  3. 00:47:436 (5) - the 1/4 jumps are really hard to read here, a new combo on this slider would make it more readable and noticeable for players + it would give some extra HP, so, even if players miss, they will have more chances to survive.
    Note: 00:50:016 (5) - the same thing here and for all the similar 1/4 patterns. See for yourself, if you agree with me.
  4. 01:03:968 (2,3,4) - do not abuse new combos, having so many NCs gives too much HP, whis is not really necessary and spoils the fun from playing your diff a little.
  5. 01:14:533 (1) - even pro-players needs some time to recover. Leaving an 1/1 gap for players to recover after the spinner would help a lot of players and increase playability of the diff.
    Note: 02:06:791 (1,1) - same applies here, I suppose.
  6. 01:45:500 (5) - a new combo here might come in handy to help players recover after the jumps and it corresponds greately with the music, so I don't see any reason why not.

    Wow, you have had a loooot of fun with the kiai part. The whole diff feels a bit exaggerated, but this diff is meant to be a super-hard one and it still ferlects the song quite well. Well done!
Most of the probles here are minor, like little inconsistencies and/or some spacing mistakes. It all will get fixed with a few mods, nice mapset!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!
toybot
1,050 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
toybot

-Bakari- wrote:

lol, second Yo, as requested - red is unaccepted, everything else is

[General]
  1. I'd rather keep the letterboxes disabled. They don't look good with your BG, in my opinion. - hmm, i like them, but yeah they kind of don't. maybe there'll be a storyboard later :P
  2. Shouldn't XΣNΦ be mentioned as the title? And the romanized title will be XENO. - mmk
  3. Here's the 1366x768 version of your BG, this is the recommended size, so you might want to use it. - thanks!
  4. There's a little inconsistency in the tags. On the another diff, the last word got messed up a bit. Check it and you'll see.- fixed
[Normal]
  1. 00:09:049 (1) - the head of the slider follows pretty much nothing in music and therefore, feels extra and unnatural. - just added a circle at the end then
  2. 00:38:726 (1,2) - try removing (2) and adding a repeat to (1) instead. It will increase playability of the diff and make your rhythm feel more natural.
    Note: check out this guide for more details. - I don't think that kind of method really applies to this. It feels playable (certainly is) and has a common rhythm anyway, but slow enough to comprehend.
  3. 00:43:887 (1) - tail of the slider is too close to the previous hitobjects, so, the flow feels forced and a bit tricky. Try selecting 00:43:887 (1,2,3,4) - and rotating them by 45. - sure
  4. 00:59:371 (1) - the slider changes its direction kinda suddenly. Which may become sorta unplayable and/or confusing. <oreover, it does not flow good and feels really weird in this diff, to me. - changed
    Note: 02:27:757 (4) - quite a similar thing - changed this too to a curved one
  5. 01:12:275 (1,2,3,4) - I would replace them with a spinner. The instruments are pretty quite, and there's a gradually increasing volume, so, a spinner would match better. - i was deciding on this because i felt a spinner might be a bit too quick, but sure it fits better
  6. 01:29:049 (3) - minor - the overlap with (1) seems untidy and does not flow/look good (it looks out of your style). Mind looking for an alternative pattern? :) - wwww changed

    Seems quite well-done. I did not go with a full and detailed mod since it's only the first mod, but I like what you've got here!
[Hyper]
  1. 00:15:500 (1,2) - the jump feels so lonely at this part. I understand that it is here for the pattern, but adding at least one or two more jumps would make this part more consistent and understandable. - hmm, it's not really much of a jump in the first place, and it would be a little hard to add a few more, so no change
  2. 00:31:629 (3,4) - the jump feels quite lonely here. Adding a little jump between 00:30:823 (4,1) - these two would help you to make the pattern a bit better-balanced and logical. - sure
  3. 00:37:436 (1,2) - minor - I would rather make a jump between these two, to avoid the overlap, which looks a bit untidy, cmparing with the rest of the diff. - i just moved (2) upwards instead ^^
  4. 01:16:791 (3,1) - I understand your reason to break the DS here, but why don't you try to stack it with (2) instead?example. The DS difference is lower and it feels more natural + it does not break your flow. - i wanted the accent in though, and its kind of like a gimmick(?) they should be able to read it anyway by rhythm
  5. 01:22:597 (1) - I like how the red anchor is used to emphasize the beat in music, good job with this slider. ♥ - huehue <3
  6. 01:28:887 (1) - minor - just thinking that the flow would be better if you made a triangle here. The stack does not really work here anyway. Here is no any reason to stop the flow, is there? Example - i wanted a break for the slight change in direction, but sure
  7. 02:26:790 (2) - I would rather finish the slider at 02:27:435 - to avoid weird-looking slider tick and to make the rhythm a bit more relaxing. - sure

    Pretty nice. Maybe it needs a bit more consistency and some minor flow improvements, but it looks promising!
[54Xe]
I honestly can't see any connection between this name and actual difficulity of the map or the song. Can you please explain why the diff is named this way or rename it to something like Black Another? - ahh, 54Xe relates to the element Xenon, which has the atomic number 54 and symbol Xe. I just thought it was kinda cool :P And with those letters "Xe" in it anyway, it sort of resembles to Extra diff name
  1. 00:34:855 (1,2,3) - these jumps are exaggerated, in my opinion. If you listen to the song, there is pretty much nothing that needs to be stressed with the jumps, so it really hard to read/understand them. Try redcing the DS or keeping it consistent here? The jump from (3) to (4) is cool, though. - changed to something less stressing
  2. 00:46:468 (1) - the sllider tail is curved in a tricky way and changes its direction suddenly, moreover, iit does not fot with the music, and therefore, feels forced. Same applies to some similar sliders like 00:53:162 (2) - 00:54:452 (2) - this one is really tricky - 00:55:500 (1) - after the first one it is more playable, but still can troble some players a bit - 00:56:387 (2) - this is really confusing - 00:59:371 (1,2,3) - most of these sliders can be easily improved by making the curve less agressive. - tried to fix some (probably failed miserably), others would have a poorer option
  3. 00:47:436 (5) - the 1/4 jumps are really hard to read here, a new combo on this slider would make it more readable and noticeable for players + it would give some extra HP, so, even if players miss, they will have more chances to survive. - added a new NC pattern to all of the patterns in this section
    Note: 00:50:016 (5) - the same thing here and for all the similar 1/4 patterns. See for yourself, if you agree with me.
  4. 01:03:968 (2,3,4) - do not abuse new combos, having so many NCs gives too much HP, whis is not really necessary and spoils the fun from playing your diff a little. - removed
  5. 01:14:533 (1) - even pro-players needs some time to recover. Leaving an 1/1 gap for players to recover after the spinner would help a lot of players and increase playability of the diff. - moved the spinner's tail to 1/1 gap (bookmark with it)
    Note: 02:06:791 (1,1) - same applies here, I suppose. - i don't think so, it feels perfect the way it is
  6. 01:45:500 (5) - a new combo here might come in handy to help players recover after the jumps and it corresponds greately with the music, so I don't see any reason why not. - ok, added ^^

    Wow, you have had a loooot of fun with the kiai part. The whole diff feels a bit exaggerated, but this diff is meant to be a super-hard one and it still ferlects the song quite well. Well done!
Most of the probles here are minor, like little inconsistencies and/or some spacing mistakes. It all will get fixed with a few mods, nice mapset!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!
Thank you for the great mod! :D
Last edited by toybot , edited 1 time in total.
AruOtta
1,296 posts
Joined May 2012
AruOtta

-Bakari- wrote:

lol, second Yo, as requested

[Kenterz's Another]
  1. Increase HP Drain to 7? There is no need to go with so low HP drain. 7 Would match better and make the spread a bit better-balanced, from my point of view.
  2. 00:36:146 (1,2) - unstacking the circle would make it more readable. It is really hard to notice, even with the approach hitcircle, so I would highly suggest to unstack them. Players don't really expect a circle here, so, making it more noticeable sounds like a good idea to me.
  3. 00:37:920 (2,3,4,5) - two 1/4 sliders would match better, just slow down the playback and you will hear it. :)
  4. 00:43:887 - this part feels rather quite comparing to the others and it is really hard to hear some of the hitsounds there. Mind increasing the volume at this part?
  5. 00:53:565 (1) - minor - by moving this slider to the left you can make the jump a bit easier and use a cute blanket with 00:52:920 (1). Example
  6. 01:16:952 (8,9) - the combo chain feels too long and breaks your combo pattern. Try placing a new combo at 01:16:952 (8,9) - one of these objects? Personally, I would go with a new combo at (9) but having one at (8) is also okay.
  7. 01:43:242 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - great pattern, I love how it is done and matches with the diff. ♥ Thanks \:D/
  8. 01:45:500 (5) - just saying, that you might want to add a new combo here, since this stream sounds different from the previous one. Totally upp to you, tho.
  9. 02:06:145 (1) - making the slider path more readable would prevent some possible problems. See if you like this pattern better!

    Not much to say, preetty deent flow, good rhythm.
Most of the probles here are minor, like little inconsistencies and/or some spacing mistakes. It all will get fixed with a few mods, nice mapset!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Best of luck!
Everything Fixed <3

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Lust
osu! Alumni
2,667 posts
Joined January 2013
Lust
-Bakari-

-Bakari- wrote:

[Lust's Beginner]
  1. Due to some rather tricky rhythm changes (like 00:32:275 (2,3) - 3/2 pattern) you might want to set your OD a bit lower. It will comfort beginners and help them to deal with the tricky rhythm. sure i dig that. besides i was considering lower OD right when i decided to map it because i know i was trying a lot of different ideas out here.
  2. 00:38:081 (3) - the tail of this slider is too colse to the previous hitobject, so, beginner may mistakenly hit it or/and get confused. In order to avoid that, try re-arranging the pattern to make it intuitively understandable. tbh this was already a tricky rhythm to begin with, i even had to manipulate the spacing in order for it to be more understandable. for now ill leave it be, but if more people point it out ill see to do something about it!
    Note: if you agree with the suggestion above, try to improve your flow between 00:38:726 (1,2) - these two while applying the previous suggestion. :)
  3. 02:10:661 (1) - the circle appears while the spinner is still spinable. Which creates an untidy overlap. Give more recovery time or place circle in an area where it will be less noticeable (and herefore, less stressful for the beginners). meh it appears at the very end and right dead in the center, i think they will be able to get over it. by the time it appears beginners /should/ have already spun enough to pass it
    Seems pretty well done. Nice job! thank you!

thx for the mod

diff
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: ujicoclone xeno.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43888
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:XENO
TitleUnicode:XENO
Artist:Ujico&CLONE
ArtistUnicode:Ujico&CLONE
Creator:toybot
Version:Lust's Beginner
Source:BMS
Tags:kenterz lust bof2013 bms of fighters 2013 fantasia tano-c dtm XΣNΦ
BeatmapID:462207
BeatmapSetID:193373

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:1.5
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.8
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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Kihhou
1,040 posts
Joined March 2013
Kihhou
sorry for being so late ;-; i had some rl issues and i didnt feel like modding at all at the time >.<

[General]
  1. tagsss! kenezz's symbols are all weirded out someone go copy paste that in his diff pls ><
    Kenterzzz's
    everyone else's


  • [Lust's Beginner]
  1. 00:08:726 - add green point and set the tail to 5% volumee. nothin's there! oh and add one at 00:09:049 - to change volume back to 30%
  2. 00:16:791 (1) - that is uh. out of the playfield lol. keep it in the grid man
  3. 00:20:662 (1) - i would bring this down a bit, esp for a beginner diff. a good part of the approach circle is gone and another portion is overlapping with the hp bar. it might be hard to read for beginners. ofc will have to move the hitcircle and maybe the slider afterwards depending on what you want
  4. 00:32:275 (2,3) - this rhythm might be a bit hard to read for the diff. consider using this kind of rhythm? i removed the reverse off slider 2 and added a reverse to slider 3 then moved slider 3 on the timeline
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  5. if you made the change above, you might want to consider changing some NCs now that the start of a new seciton is a new object o-o remove 00:30:984 (1) - NC and 00:34:855 (1) - NC?~ and then add NC to the new object at 00:33:565 - ?
  6. 00:36:146 (2,3,1) - reaaally cramped there. give yourself a bit more breathing room with this setup on the (2) slider
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  7. 00:51:629 (4) - uhh youre out of bounds there. bring it into the grid o3o
  8. 01:00:662 (2) - here too wat lust why yyyyy. move 00:58:081 (1) - to 187,137 and 01:00:662 (2) - to 400,330
  9. 01:45:823 - why are you using default hitsounds for this green line? o-o the claps at 01:53:242 (3) - and 01:54:533 (2) - are really awkward and dont fit lol change to N:C1?
  10. 00:42:597 (1) - remove NC its pretty useless o-o
  11. 00:49:049 (3) - NC~ its been 4 measures. pretty long since last nc
  12. 01:21:307 (1) - remove NC and add NC to 01:20:662 (4) - . should follow an nc every 4 measures here and the start of the measure is at 01:14:855 - isntead of 01:16:146 -
  13. 01:36:146 (4,1) - swap NC~ essentially the same. start of the measure is at 01:35:517 - but since its a tail, you should NC next note instead o-o
  14. 01:56:791 (4,1) - ^ swap NC

[Standarddd]
  1. 01:31:307 (3) - add reverse? the long pause after this feels off since theres nothing else like it and it feels like something should definitely be there with the fast paced music. youll need to move some things around o-o
    SPOILER
  2. 01:45:500 - add hitcircle?
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  3. 02:06:791 - spinner should start here o3o lengthen for it to end at 02:10:016 -
  4. 02:26:790 (3,4) - make the distance between these 1.0x o3o not too important but still lol

[Hyper]
  1. 00:20:662 (1,2) - there isnt anything significant in the music at 2 and there isnt anything different in that part compared to like 00:15:500 (1,2) - . just go with slider o3o it fits better
  2. 00:50:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - lol ouch this killed me the first time i played it. cuz it went from slow clicks to 2x as many clicks >.< so unexpected and kinda out of nowhere. should make it a bit easier to read? maybe change 00:50:581 (2,4) - into hitcircles
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  3. 00:50:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - i would actually save this mroe intense clicking setup for the end at like 00:56:791 - or 01:03:242 - or something and use it there since its more hyped towards the end of the section. atm it goes from slow clicks to that part with fast clicks and back to slow clicks. to fix that it would take a bit of remapping o_o but i dont like telling people to remap something that isnt very critical like this. just something to note for your future beatmaps, save your click intense sections for the end for the constant buildup! >.<
  4. 01:18:726 (1,2) - change placement? a bit better flow from the reverse slider
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  5. 01:30:662 (2) - ctrlg ~ for emphasis on the third and final (same note) violin sound ~ .. i would actually mvoe things around so that 01:30:984 (3) - is higher than (2) for a better consistent violin representation since theyre all the same note but that would take a lot of remapping and i dont want to change too much of the setup
  6. 02:04:533 (3) - skipped over a bass drum hit at 02:04:694 - . try this rhythm isntead~
    SPOILER
  7. 02:05:823 (3) - think this ends at 02:06:146 - in the music.. its much stronger at 02:06:146 - than at 02:06:065 - soooo lengthen? o3o


[kenterz'z'z'z'z'z Another]
  1. dont give updates through puush text the way you do now. puush text messes up symbols and some other language characters so everytime you give an update, that "xeno" thing with all the symbols are gonna change o-o just copy the text and put it in a spoilerbox
    SPOILER
  2. 00:56:791 (1,2) - lol water you doing
    SPOILER
    00:57:033 (2,3) - move these two back
    SPOILER
  3. 01:03:565 (5,6,7) - it would be better imo if (7) was the one facing the opposite direction and 5 and 6 are both facing the same way since 5 and 6 are the same kinds of sliders with the same sounds in the music. there isnt much of a reason to differentiate them and imo it flows better this way despite the end of the sliders being on the tails
    SPOILER

    or
    i like the linear flow on the heads o3o
  4. 01:32:113 (4) - move this more towards the left and up? i think it would fit the violin very well if there was that kind of a jump between 01:32:113 (4,5) - .. with the emphasis and the sharp direction change
  5. 01:34:049 (1) - this doesnt fit the music too well. theres a strong violin and ?bass drum? hit at 01:34:210 - and its completely skipped over while theres nothing much to emphasize at 01:34:049 - change the rhythm into something like
    SPOILER
    maybe with this setup?
    SPOILER
  6. 01:34:694 (3,4) - add a jump to follow the emphasis in the violin here by moving 01:34:694 (3) - ? i would have nice sharp movements that fit the music here imo
    SPOILER
  7. 01:41:952 (1) - this 3/4 slider seems forced o-o you missed a violin sound at 01:42:113 - which you were following moments ago D: remove the slider and change the rhythm so that you catch taht violin~ i think id do this rhythm for emphasis on the violin with the head of a slider
    SPOILER
  8. 01:54:855 (8) - NC?
  9. 01:59:694 (3,1,2,3) - this flows very smoothly which imo could represent the music better by not flowing smoothly o-o since this part is so different, i think it would be better to have no rotational flow here.something like ctrlg 02:00:016 (1,2,3) - and then ctrlg 02:00:662 (4,5,6) -
    SPOILER
  10. 02:05:500 (2) - same as 01:03:565 (5,6,7) - . ctrlg 02:05:500 (2) - ?
  11. 02:06:468 - it doesnt really feel like it ended properly since you ended it on an upbeat, using a slider tail, middle of the measure with a drum and light cymbal sound still at 02:06:468 - . since the starts of spinners isnt very good at following strong beats, imo you should add a hitcircle at 02:06:468 - and move the spinner to start at 02:06:791 - since i believe thats when the "woooooooo" sound starts and then shorten it so it ends on 02:09:694 - like you have now

[54Xe]
  1. 00:40:339 (2,3,1) - having this flow as a straight line doesnt fit the music too well here imo. it doesnt make the piano parts stand out very well from the rest of the section. it would be better imo if you moved 00:40:339 (2) - down so that between 00:40:500 (3,1) - is a direction change for better emphasis
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  2. 00:40:984 (2,3,1) - same thing here except its even more recommended since 00:41:307 (1) - has an upward for a more sharp angle~ naice.. move 00:40:984 (2) - down?
    SPOILER
  3. 00:43:000 (2,3) - uhh 2 things about this here. first, 00:43:000 (2) - i think you have the wrong rhythm with this slider. the notes are on 00:43:081 - 00:43:162 - from the way i hear it o-o i dont hear anything on 00:43:000 - . it also feels like a pause is to be expected there o-o secondly, 00:43:000 (2,3) - these two are both the same but (3) is a very unique and special sound, ending the section. its uniqueness is a bit ruined by having the same slider right before it when they dont sound the same (1/4 slider into a pause) sooooooaAAAAA try this rhythm?
    SPOILER
  4. 00:43:243 - since 00:42:597 (1) - is flowing up, im guessing youre going to have rotational flow here and having the slider move down is natural? i think you should make 00:43:242 - this slider go in the opposite of the direction of flow you have. i see flow as something being smooth and this sound is very instantaneous and not really "smooth". its a bit sharp and surprising, you know what i mean? o3o so i think a 180 degree turn from your usual flow will represent the slider better... am i making sense? :/ i barely understand myself lol like these, whichever rhythm you choose from the previous bullet point^ the notes afterwards wont have to be changed for flow o3o theres a pause anyways
    with my rhythm o3o and setup..
    with your rhythm and setup~
  5. 00:44:613 (4) - the note starts on this so i think this note should be where the direction change is at for the best possible emphasis. what you have now is the direction change at 00:44:694 (5) - but thats a bit late for the notes you seem to be following with the sliders o3o try this?
    SPOILER
  6. 00:46:468 (1) - aaa this doesnt really do anything for the tail lol. if you wanted it reversed you should make it more prominent by shortening the red note and moving the 3rd node up. it looks sloppy atm o3o
    SPOILER
  7. 00:50:016 (1,2,1) - woahhhh those beautiful increasingly sharp angles, giving a rushed feeling *_* i love it! pls dont change this LOL im gonna have to try using this sometime~
  8. 00:52:758 (3,4) - o-o sooo this is the same as 00:52:113 (3) - 00:53:404 (3) - and sort of 00:54:049 (3) - except 00:54:049 (3) - is more emphasized. but this is the only triplet hitcircle part :/ it doesnt really stand out either. i mean if you were to go 1/4slider - triplet hitcircle - 1/4 slider - triplet hitcircle for variation, itd sorta make sense but i dont think a triplet hitcircle suits 00:54:049 (3) - since its so emphasized so thats out/... maybe just make this 00:52:758 (3,4) - into a 1/4 slider? ill give you what i would do :D for fun lol
    SPOILER
  9. 00:54:210 (1) - all that buildup kinda dies down b/c this slider doesnt have too much emphasis with direction change or distance o3o so increase distance between these two for all thhe hypeee? heeeee something like this?
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  10. 00:56:629 (3,1) - same thing as above^ emphasis on 1?~ for finish and new section~ you can stack (1) on the head of 00:56:387 (2) - . thats an option o3o
  11. 01:01:146 (3) - the music at 01:01:146 - is very emphasized and surprising but the way you have the flow setup now, it makes it feel like the emphasis isnt on the head of 01:01:146 (3) - since it flows so... smoothly.. and then since theres a sort of weird flow between 01:01:146 (3,4) - , it makes it seem like youre emphasizing something at 01:01:387 - more than at 01:01:146 - , which isnt fitting imo o-o try this setup so you get better direction change? i ctrl-J the 01:01:146 (3) - and then rotated it -3 degrees so that the middle of the slider is parallel with the stream at 01:01:387 (4,5,6) - , which is what i think you were doing with the little handle bars in what you have now sooo something like this o3o"
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    or
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  12. 01:03:242 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - errrr these stream jumps, distance changes, and large distances all seem a bit hard for a 5.28 diff song lol but i cant play it and dont know too much about stream jumps so i wont suggest that you change it. maybe just keep a note on it o3o
  13. 01:04:533 (3) - youve been following the main piano the entire section but then you switch to only following the 2nd piano ._." it feels a bit strange to suddenly ignore the main piano. id prefer that the main piano is mapped too by adding a note at 01:19:210 - and 01:19:694 -
  14. 01:26:791 (4) - really cool slider!~
  15. 01:37:920 - i dont think this 1/1 pause fits very well. you havent done this i think pretty much ever for the entire diff for similar sections o3o it doesnt fit the fast paced music imo and theres still something to map there . bring 01:38:081 (1) - closer to ---> and add a triplet at 01:37:920 - ? following the hi hat sound.. or is that a cymbal tap? i have no idea. theres a something triplet there lol youll have to move the next notes around if you make this change
    SPOILER
    SPOILER
  16. 01:43:081 (6,1,2) - this feels a tiny bit weird lol like the flow is like this and it doesnt really feel right
    SPOILER
    maybe try something like this or this?
    SPOILER
    SPOILER
  17. 01:54:210 (1) - add emphasis to the head by ctrl-g this ? good ol antijump emphasis + increased distance
  18. 01:55:500 (1,2) - personal preference~ id make this a 1/4 slider isntead for that ding part to be differentiated o3o idk how hard that would be to read tho for people who havent seen the rhythm in editor
    02:06:146 (7) - i believe those are 1/16ths in the music lol make it so? and have the sampleset on soft or drums so its quieter? ><
    SPOILER
  19. 02:16:467 (3) - imo it would fit better if this was turned into 2 hitcircles for equal emphasis following the strong bass drum? sound here, like at 02:19:048 (3,4) -
  20. 00:44:855 (1) - remove finish from tail? o-o was that an accident? actually this actually sounds nice. if it was intentional, or you like it, you should add a finish to the tail of 00:50:016 (1) - for consistency since theyre the same rhythm
  21. 01:53:404 (2) - think you forgot to switch to normal sampleset here on head

ok
AruOtta
1,296 posts
Joined May 2012
AruOtta

Kihhou wrote:

sorry for being so late ;-; i had some rl issues and i didnt feel like modding at all at the time >.<

[General]
  1. tagsss! kenezz's symbols are all weirded out someone go copy paste that in his diff pls ><
    Kenterzzz's
    everyone else's

[kenterz'z'z'z'z'z Another]
  1. dont give updates through puush text the way you do now. puush text messes up symbols and some other language characters so everytime you give an update, that "xeno" thing with all the symbols are gonna change o-o just copy the text and put it in a spoilerbox
    SPOILER
  2. 00:56:791 (1,2) - lol water you doing
    SPOILER
    00:57:033 (2,3) - move these two back
    SPOILER
  3. 01:03:565 (5,6,7) - it would be better imo if (7) was the one facing the opposite direction and 5 and 6 are both facing the same way since 5 and 6 are the same kinds of sliders with the same sounds in the music. there isnt much of a reason to differentiate them and imo it flows better this way despite the end of the sliders being on the tails I disagree, I think it's better to make something like X/O/X than X/X/O (about the way of the sliders)
    SPOILER

    or
    i like the linear flow on the heads o3o
  4. 01:32:113 (4) - move this more towards the left and up? i think it would fit the violin very well if there was that kind of a jump between 01:32:113 (4,5) - .. with the emphasis and the sharp direction change
  5. 01:34:049 (1) - this doesnt fit the music too well. theres a strong violin and ?bass drum? hit at 01:34:210 - and its completely skipped over while theres nothing much to emphasize at 01:34:049 - change the rhythm into something like
    SPOILER
    maybe with this setup?
    SPOILER
  6. 01:34:694 (3,4) - add a jump to follow the emphasis in the violin here by moving 01:34:694 (3) - ? i would have nice sharp movements that fit the music here imo I can't because I changed the previous pattern
    SPOILER
  7. 01:41:952 (1) - this 3/4 slider seems forced o-o you missed a violin sound at 01:42:113 - which you were following moments ago D: remove the slider and change the rhythm so that you catch taht violin~ i think id do this rhythm for emphasis on the violin with the head of a slider
    SPOILER
  8. 01:54:855 (8) - NC?
  9. 01:59:694 (3,1,2,3) - this flows very smoothly which imo could represent the music better by not flowing smoothly o-o since this part is so different, i think it would be better to have no rotational flow here.something like ctrlg 02:00:016 (1,2,3) - and then ctrlg 02:00:662 (4,5,6) -
    SPOILER
  10. 02:05:500 (2) - same as 01:03:565 (5,6,7) - . ctrlg 02:05:500 (2) - ? No, like I said above
  11. 02:06:468 - it doesnt really feel like it ended properly since you ended it on an upbeat, using a slider tail, middle of the measure with a drum and light cymbal sound still at 02:06:468 - . since the starts of spinners isnt very good at following strong beats, imo you should add a hitcircle at 02:06:468 - and move the spinner to start at 02:06:791 - since i believe thats when the "woooooooo" sound starts and then shorten it so it ends on 02:09:694 - like you have now

ok
Update
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100,280,122920,2,0,L|88:216,1,57.1999973815919,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
79,123,123081,2,0,P|134:112|180:144,1,114.399994763184
248,200,123323,2,0,P|228:140|260:84,1,114.399994763184
316,52,123565,1,8,0:0:0:0:
440,136,123726,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,140,123807,5,0,0:0:0:0:
456,144,123887,1,4,0:0:0:0:
352,188,124049,1,0,0:0:0:0:
500,220,124210,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,272,124371,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,104,124533,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,224,124694,1,0,0:0:0:0:
420,320,124855,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,300,125016,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,292,125097,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,284,125178,6,0,L|112:296,3,57.1999973815919,0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,216,125500,2,0,L|184:204,3,57.1999973815919,0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,248,125823,2,0,P|246:167|274:86,1,171.599992144776
273,86,126146,6,0,P|320:112|332:24,1,158.399995166016
172,120,126468,1,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,126549,12,0,129694,0:0:0:0:
364,96,130016,5,4,0:0:0:0:
384,200,130661,6,0,P|304:172|256:240,1,176
208,324,131951,2,0,B|220:240|220:240|184:136,1,176
156,80,132919,5,0,0:0:0:0:
112,152,133241,2,0,P|176:160|232:60,1,176
234,77,135177,6,0,P|224:124|252:168,1,88
344,200,135822,2,0,L|148:188,1,176
168,189,137757,5,0,0:0:0:0:
136,116,138080,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,64,138403,2,0,P|248:32|292:136,1,176
276,176,139693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,248,140338,6,0,P|264:236|212:272,1,88,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,320,140983,2,0,P|216:264|124:196,1,176
133,195,142274,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,136,142919,6,0,L|288:140,1,88
312,216,143564,2,0,L|104:208,1,176
136,209,145499,6,0,P|152:164|128:120,1,88
84,68,146145,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,44,146790,6,0,L|468:56,1,211.2,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
442,54,148564,5,4,0:0:0:0:
Lust
osu! Alumni
2,667 posts
Joined January 2013
Lust
Kihhou

Kihhou wrote:

  • [Lust's Beginner]
  1. 00:08:726 - add green point and set the tail to 5% volumee. nothin's there! oh and add one at 00:09:049 - to change volume back to 30% removed the slider replaced it with circle
  2. 00:16:791 (1) - that is uh. out of the playfield lol. keep it in the grid man plays fine to me
  3. 00:20:662 (1) - i would bring this down a bit, esp for a beginner diff. a good part of the approach circle is gone and another portion is overlapping with the hp bar. it might be hard to read for beginners. ofc will have to move the hitcircle and maybe the slider afterwards depending on what you want doesn't overlap anything for me, and even if it did it is miniscule
  4. 00:32:275 (2,3) - this rhythm might be a bit hard to read for the diff. consider using this kind of rhythm? i removed the reverse off slider 2 and added a reverse to slider 3 then moved slider 3 on the timeline they will be able to get used to it if they do not get it the first time
    SPOILER
  5. if you made the change above, you might want to consider changing some NCs now that the start of a new seciton is a new object o-o remove 00:30:984 (1) - NC and 00:34:855 (1) - NC?~ and then add NC to the new object at 00:33:565 - ? I NC to the music, not to the measure
  6. 00:36:146 (2,3,1) - reaaally cramped there. give yourself a bit more breathing room with this setup on the (2) slider
    SPOILER
    who cares, plays fine anyway
  7. 00:51:629 (4) - uhh youre out of bounds there. bring it into the grid o3o plays fine to me
  8. 01:00:662 (2) - here too wat lust why yyyyy. move 00:58:081 (1) - to 187,137 and 01:00:662 (2) - to 400,330 just because it is not inside the grid doesnt mean it is not visible in the playfield, next time you mod be sure to include screenshots of it being out of the playfield to support your suggestion
  9. 01:45:823 - why are you using default hitsounds for this green line? o-o the claps at 01:53:242 (3) - and 01:54:533 (2) - are really awkward and dont fit lol change to N:C1? sounds fine to me
  10. 00:42:597 (1) - remove NC its pretty useless o-o once again, I NC to the music not to the measure. the music changes here drastically, and to accent this i put a new combo
  11. 00:49:049 (3) - NC~ its been 4 measures. pretty long since last nc ^
  12. 01:21:307 (1) - remove NC and add NC to 01:20:662 (4) - . should follow an nc every 4 measures here and the start of the measure is at 01:14:855 - isntead of 01:16:146 - ^
  13. 01:36:146 (4,1) - swap NC~ essentially the same. start of the measure is at 01:35:517 - but since its a tail, you should NC next note instead o-o ^
  14. 01:56:791 (4,1) - ^ swap NC ^

thx for the mod, told toybot my changes
toybot
1,050 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
toybot

Kihhou wrote:

sorry for being so late ;-; i had some rl issues and i didnt feel like modding at all at the time >.<

[General]
  1. tagsss! kenezz's symbols are all weirded out someone go copy paste that in his diff pls ><
    Kenterzzz's
    everyone else's

[Standarddd]
  1. 01:31:307 (3) - add reverse? the long pause after this feels off since theres nothing else like it and it feels like something should definitely be there with the fast paced music. youll need to move some things around o-o
    SPOILER
  2. 01:45:500 - add hitcircle? - no, because no where can it fit :p
    SPOILER
  3. 02:06:791 - spinner should start here o3o lengthen for it to end at 02:10:016 - - put at 02:06:952 - instead because it sounds like it starts there lol
  4. 02:26:790 (3,4) - make the distance between these 1.0x o3o not too important but still lol

[Hyper]
  1. 00:20:662 (1,2) - there isnt anything significant in the music at 2 and there isnt anything different in that part compared to like 00:15:500 (1,2) - . just go with slider o3o it fits better
  2. 00:50:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - lol ouch this killed me the first time i played it. cuz it went from slow clicks to 2x as many clicks >.< so unexpected and kinda out of nowhere. should make it a bit easier to read? maybe change 00:50:581 (2,4) - into hitcircles - changed this to something different, but it's easier now
    SPOILER
  3. 00:50:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - i would actually save this mroe intense clicking setup for the end at like 00:56:791 - or 01:03:242 - or something and use it there since its more hyped towards the end of the section. atm it goes from slow clicks to that part with fast clicks and back to slow clicks. to fix that it would take a bit of remapping o_o but i dont like telling people to remap something that isnt very critical like this. just something to note for your future beatmaps, save your click intense sections for the end for the constant buildup! >.<
  4. 01:18:726 (1,2) - change placement? a bit better flow from the reverse slider - i think i'm going to keep this because i just wanted the little turn in there anyway
    SPOILER
  5. 01:30:662 (2) - ctrlg ~ for emphasis on the third and final (same note) violin sound ~ .. i would actually mvoe things around so that 01:30:984 (3) - is higher than (2) for a better consistent violin representation since theyre all the same note but that would take a lot of remapping and i dont want to change too much of the setup - i think its fine as having (1) and (2) use the same downwards motion. cleaned up spacing a bit~
  6. 02:04:533 (3) - skipped over a bass drum hit at 02:04:694 - . try this rhythm isntead~
    SPOILER
  7. 02:05:823 (3) - think this ends at 02:06:146 - in the music.. its much stronger at 02:06:146 - than at 02:06:065 - soooo lengthen? o3o

[54Xe]
  1. 00:40:339 (2,3,1) - having this flow as a straight line doesnt fit the music too well here imo. it doesnt make the piano parts stand out very well from the rest of the section. it would be better imo if you moved 00:40:339 (2) - down so that between 00:40:500 (3,1) - is a direction change for better emphasis
    SPOILER
  2. 00:40:984 (2,3,1) - same thing here except its even more recommended since 00:41:307 (1) - has an upward for a more sharp angle~ naice.. move 00:40:984 (2) - down?
    SPOILER
  3. 00:43:000 (2,3) - uhh 2 things about this here. first, 00:43:000 (2) - i think you have the wrong rhythm with this slider. the notes are on 00:43:081 - 00:43:162 - from the way i hear it o-o i dont hear anything on 00:43:000 - . it also feels like a pause is to be expected there o-o secondly, 00:43:000 (2,3) - these two are both the same but (3) is a very unique and special sound, ending the section. its uniqueness is a bit ruined by having the same slider right before it when they dont sound the same (1/4 slider into a pause) sooooooaAAAAA try this rhythm? - used different rhythm with no stream stream owo
    SPOILER
  4. 00:43:243 - since 00:42:597 (1) - is flowing up, im guessing youre going to have rotational flow here and having the slider move down is natural? i think you should make 00:43:242 - this slider go in the opposite of the direction of flow you have. i see flow as something being smooth and this sound is very instantaneous and not really "smooth". its a bit sharp and surprising, you know what i mean? o3o so i think a 180 degree turn from your usual flow will represent the slider better... am i making sense? :/ i barely understand myself lol like these, whichever rhythm you choose from the previous bullet point^ the notes afterwards wont have to be changed for flow o3o theres a pause anyways - you're making sense lol, and this was what i was originally going to go and change it to after your last suggestion lol
    with my rhythm o3o and setup..
    with your rhythm and setup~
  5. 00:44:613 (4) - the note starts on this so i think this note should be where the direction change is at for the best possible emphasis. what you have now is the direction change at 00:44:694 (5) - but thats a bit late for the notes you seem to be following with the sliders o3o try this? - i think i'm just going to delete that one circle and change the slider lol
    SPOILER
  6. 00:46:468 (1) - aaa this doesnt really do anything for the tail lol. if you wanted it reversed you should make it more prominent by shortening the red note and moving the 3rd node up. it looks sloppy atm o3o - changed this earlier to something easier
    SPOILER
  7. 00:50:016 (1,2,1) - woahhhh those beautiful increasingly sharp angles, giving a rushed feeling *_* i love it! pls dont change this LOL im gonna have to try using this sometime~ - haha thanks ^^
  8. 00:52:758 (3,4) - o-o sooo this is the same as 00:52:113 (3) - 00:53:404 (3) - and sort of 00:54:049 (3) - except 00:54:049 (3) - is more emphasized. but this is the only triplet hitcircle part :/ it doesnt really stand out either. i mean if you were to go 1/4slider - triplet hitcircle - 1/4 slider - triplet hitcircle for variation, itd sorta make sense but i dont think a triplet hitcircle suits 00:54:049 (3) - since its so emphasized so thats out/... maybe just make this 00:52:758 (3,4) - into a 1/4 slider? ill give you what i would do :D for fun lol
    SPOILER
  9. 00:54:210 (1) - all that buildup kinda dies down b/c this slider doesnt have too much emphasis with direction change or distance o3o so increase distance between these two for all thhe hypeee? heeeee something like this?
    SPOILER
  10. 00:56:629 (3,1) - same thing as above^ emphasis on 1?~ for finish and new section~ you can stack (1) on the head of 00:56:387 (2) - . thats an option o3o - i want those two objects to feel connected, in a difference to the previous one
  11. 01:01:146 (3) - the music at 01:01:146 - is very emphasized and surprising but the way you have the flow setup now, it makes it feel like the emphasis isnt on the head of 01:01:146 (3) - since it flows so... smoothly.. and then since theres a sort of weird flow between 01:01:146 (3,4) - , it makes it seem like youre emphasizing something at 01:01:387 - more than at 01:01:146 - , which isnt fitting imo o-o try this setup so you get better direction change? i ctrl-J the 01:01:146 (3) - and then rotated it -3 degrees so that the middle of the slider is parallel with the stream at 01:01:387 (4,5,6) - , which is what i think you were doing with the little handle bars in what you have now sooo something like this o3o"
    SPOILER
    or
    SPOILER
  12. 01:03:242 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - errrr these stream jumps, distance changes, and large distances all seem a bit hard for a 5.28 diff song lol but i cant play it and dont know too much about stream jumps so i wont suggest that you change it. maybe just keep a note on it o3o - hmmm, i like it though :3 but i moved 01:03:242 (1,2,3,4) - up anyway so that the little 1/4 jump won't be as drastic
  13. 01:04:533 (3) - youve been following the main piano the entire section but then you switch to only following the 2nd piano ._." it feels a bit strange to suddenly ignore the main piano. id prefer that the main piano is mapped too by adding a note at 01:19:210 - and 01:19:694 - ???????????????????? i don't think i follow the 2nd piano's rhythm at all, so no change
  14. 01:26:791 (4) - really cool slider!~ - thanks again!!! ^^
  15. 01:37:920 - i dont think this 1/1 pause fits very well. you havent done this i think pretty much ever for the entire diff for similar sections o3o it doesnt fit the fast paced music imo and theres still something to map there . bring 01:38:081 (1) - closer to ---> and add a triplet at 01:37:920 - ? following the hi hat sound.. or is that a cymbal tap? i have no idea. theres a something triplet there lol youll have to move the next notes around if you make this change - hmm, no change; first i wanted a bit of a break there, and second it fits that accent on 01:38:081 - by having silence before it
    SPOILER
    SPOILER
  16. 01:43:081 (6,1,2) - this feels a tiny bit weird lol like the flow is like this and it doesnt really feel right - aah, that's so it kind of creates an arc between 1 and 2
    SPOILER
    maybe try something like this or this?
    SPOILER
    SPOILER
  17. 01:54:210 (1) - add emphasis to the head by ctrl-g this ? good ol antijump emphasis + increased distance
  18. 01:55:500 (1,2) - personal preference~ id make this a 1/4 slider isntead for that ding part to be differentiated o3o idk how hard that would be to read tho for people who havent seen the rhythm in editor
    02:06:146 (7) - i believe those are 1/16ths in the music lol make it so? and have the sampleset on soft or drums so its quieter? ><
    SPOILER
  19. 02:16:467 (3) - imo it would fit better if this was turned into 2 hitcircles for equal emphasis following the strong bass drum? sound here, like at 02:19:048 (3,4) -
  20. 00:44:855 (1) - remove finish from tail? o-o was that an accident? actually this actually sounds nice. if it was intentional, or you like it, you should add a finish to the tail of 00:50:016 (1) - for consistency since theyre the same rhythm - i think i'll just remove it instead, since it wasn't intentional oops
  21. 01:53:404 (2) - think you forgot to switch to normal sampleset here on head

ok
All the suggestions I didn't reply to are fixed. thank you!!~
Low
2,006 posts
Joined July 2011
Low
[General]
- change "Kenterz" to "Kenterz9" in the tags so players can search both his current and former username.
- remove "XΣNΦ" from the tags as it is already in the title
- according to many Japanese sources providing information on the track, there should be a space before and after the '&' symbol, so the artist should be "Ujico & CLONE"
- offset 12 seems to be more accuracte.

[Lust's Beginner]
00:09:049 (1) - the beginning of this spinner needs to have the volume lowered more. it's very loud compared to the soft sound in the music
00:13:565 (1) - this is a beginner difficulty, so remove this circle to allow players more time to recover from the spinner
00:49:049 (3) - add a NC here; the combo lasts a pretty long time
01:22:597 (3) - align with (1) to form a perfect triangle
01:53:242 (3,2,3) - the clap sounds on these objects are really noisy and don't fit the song at all. you should just remove them
02:06:468 (1) - have the volume of this start of much softer and gradually get louder. it's much too noisy at the start
02:10:661 (1) - remove this circle for the same reason i mentioned previously

[Standard]
00:41:307 (1) - this slider would be much more aesthetically pleasing if you changed the nodes to be like this
SPOILER
00:42:920 (3) - reverse this slider. it flows better into the next object like this
01:03:242 (2) - curve this slider a bit, like this. it looks a lot better paired with 01:01:952 (1). also, it flows into the next slider very well.
SPOILER
02:03:242 (4) - curve this so it blankets 02:03:887 (1)
02:06:952 (1) - same thing as mentioned for the beginner difficulty
02:26:790 (3) - you can't completely silence the ends of sliders. change this from S:C5 to just S.

[Hyper]
00:09:049 (1) - volume on this should be much lower. it's too loud in comparison to the song
01:30:662 (2) - ctrl+g for better flow
01:33:565 (3,1) - ugly overlap. adjust either of the object's positions to fix this
02:06:952 (1) - same thing as mentioned in the standard difficulty
02:26:790 (2) - you can't completely silence the ends of sliders

[Kenterz's Another]
00:41:791 (2) - would flow better as a jump if you reversed this and stacked (3,4) under the end of it again.
00:45:904 (4) - make this slider in the same shape as all the previous ones for consistency
00:56:146 (1,2) - align the ends of these sliders perfectly on each other
01:14:533 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is more fitting without the large distance between (4) and (1). it looks better as one conjoined stream
02:00:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make the spacing of these larger. it's currently rather difficult to tell at first sight if these are a different rhythm
02:06:549 (1) - same thing as mentioned in the hyper difficulty

[54XE]
00:49:775 (4) - make this the same shape as the previous sliders for consistency.
01:17:920 (3) - ctrl+g would flow much better
02:03:081 (1) - shift this a grid or two to the left to avoid an ugly almost-overlap with 02:02:839 (2).
02:06:549 (1) - same thing as mentioned in the another difficulty
02:26:790 (1) - you can't completely silence the ends of sliders

excellently made mapset. good luck
toybot
1,050 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
toybot
All the unresponded ones are fixed (pretty much everything)

mod

Low wrote:

[General]
- change "Kenterz" to "Kenterz9" in the tags so players can search both his current and former username.
- remove "XΣNΦ" from the tags as it is already in the title
- according to many Japanese sources providing information on the track, there should be a space before and after the '&' symbol, so the artist should be "Ujico & CLONE"
- offset 12 seems to be more accuracte. - i'll do all of this general stuff once all the diffs are fixed

[Standard]
00:41:307 (1) - this slider would be much more aesthetically pleasing if you changed the nodes to be like this
SPOILER
00:42:920 (3) - reverse this slider. it flows better into the next object like this
01:03:242 (2) - curve this slider a bit, like this. it looks a lot better paired with 01:01:952 (1). also, it flows into the next slider very well.
SPOILER
02:03:242 (4) - curve this so it blankets 02:03:887 (1)
02:06:952 (1) - same thing as mentioned for the beginner difficulty
02:26:790 (3) - you can't completely silence the ends of sliders. change this from S:C5 to just S. - :( ok

[Hyper]
00:09:049 (1) - volume on this should be much lower. it's too loud in comparison to the song - it's not that loud tho
01:30:662 (2) - ctrl+g for better flow
01:33:565 (3,1) - ugly overlap. adjust either of the object's positions to fix this
02:06:952 (1) - same thing as mentioned in the standard difficulty
02:26:790 (2) - you can't completely silence the ends of sliders

[54XE]
00:49:775 (4) - make this the same shape as the previous sliders for consistency.
01:17:920 (3) - ctrl+g would flow much better - i kinda want that digging in type of flow, instead of just going clockwise turn
02:03:081 (1) - shift this a grid or two to the left to avoid an ugly almost-overlap with 02:02:839 (2).
02:06:549 (1) - same thing as mentioned in the another difficulty
02:26:790 (1) - you can't completely silence the ends of sliders

excellently made mapset. good luck

Thank you for the mod!!
AruOtta
1,296 posts
Joined May 2012
AruOtta

Low wrote:

[General]
- change "Kenterz" to "Kenterz9" in the tags so players can search both his current and former username. I think my 2 usernames should be added (or just my actual one), because if there's only Kenterz9, people will not find it as Kenterz, here is an exemple, I searched my ranked map when I was Kenterz9 by writing Kenterz :
SPOILER

[Kenterz's Another]
00:41:791 (2) - would flow better as a jump if you reversed this and stacked (3,4) under the end of it again.
00:45:904 (4) - make this slider in the same shape as all the previous ones for consistency
00:56:146 (1,2) - align the ends of these sliders perfectly on each other
01:14:533 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is more fitting without the large distance between (4) and (1). it looks better as one conjoined stream
02:00:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make the spacing of these larger. it's currently rather difficult to tell at first sight if these are a different rhythm
02:06:549 (1) - same thing as mentioned in the hyper difficulty

Everything fixed
excellently made mapset. good luck
Thank you for the mod :3

Update : http://puu.sh/bfoei.osu
TKS
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014
1,380 posts
Joined July 2011
TKS
finished! sorry for the delay.. orz
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... 20XENO.rar

hope you like it, thanks in advance! :roll:
PatZar
3,079 posts
Joined March 2013
PatZar
haiiii

Oni♥
00:39:286 (134) - kat? flowing imo

consistent and flowing
nothing can be mentioned

don't KD me
Spectator
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,780 posts
Joined February 2011
Spectator
Spec's overdose
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: ujicoclone xeno.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43882
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 27753
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.7

[Metadata]
Title:XENO
TitleUnicode:XΣNΦ
Artist:Ujico&CLONE
ArtistUnicode:Ujico&CLONE
Creator:toybot
Version:Spec's Overdose
Source:BMS
Tags:tks tksalt kenterz kenterz9 lust bof2013 bms of fighters 2013 fantasia tano-c dtm
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7.5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:9.3
ApproachRate:9.3
SliderMultiplier:1.86
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"resized.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,10534,12361
2,23437,27199
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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38,203,120442,1,12,1:0:0:0:
30,71,120657,1,12,1:1:0:0:
487,46,120872,1,4,1:2:0:0:
479,162,121088,1,12,1:0:0:0:
74,335,121302,6,0,P|59:255|81:154,1,167.399994891358,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
158,84,121624,2,0,P|167:140|153:192,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,202,121866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
275,212,121947,1,4,0:0:0:0:
337,221,122028,6,0,P|393:204|460:219,1,111.599996594238,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
291,300,122270,2,0,L|184:315,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,127,122431,2,0,L|475:142,1,55.7999982971192
227,67,122592,6,0,L|58:112,1,167.399994891358,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,155,122915,2,0,L|342:189,1,111.599996594238,12|2,1:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
390,189,123157,1,0,0:0:0:0:
445,188,123237,1,4,0:0:0:0:
501,188,123318,6,0,L|389:194,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
237,228,123560,1,12,1:0:0:0:
176,223,123641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,218,123721,1,2,0:0:0:0:
55,213,123802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
3,208,123882,6,0,L|25:91,1,111.599996594238,12|12,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
509,176,124205,2,0,L|487:293,1,111.599996594238,12|12,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
23,98,124528,6,0,L|3:208,1,111.599996594238,12|12,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
488,285,124850,2,0,L|509:176,1,111.599996594238,12|12,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
3,208,125173,6,0,L|25:91,1,111.599996594238,12|12,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
509,176,125496,2,0,L|487:293,1,111.599996594238,12|12,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
4,91,125818,5,4,1:2:0:0:
256,192,125979,1,12,1:0:0:0:
491,275,126141,2,0,L|482:316,7,27.8999991485596,0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0,1:0|1:0|1:0|1:0|1:0|1:0|1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
179,337,126463,1,2,1:3:0:0:
256,192,126544,12,0,129689,0:0:0:0:
255,133,130011,6,0,P|128:140|60:116,1,186,4|2,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,228,131140,2,0,L|100:232,1,46.5,0|2,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
232,280,131623,2,0,L|340:296,1,93,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,156,132591,6,0,L|280:120,1,186,0|0,1:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
112,88,133881,2,0,L|236:72,1,93,2|4,1:3|1:0,1:0:0:0:
192,176,135172,6,0,L|8:152,1,186,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,88,136301,2,0,L|200:80,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
304,280,136785,2,0,L|196:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,176,137752,6,0,L|504:152,1,186,0|2,1:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
269,128,138881,2,0,L|224:140,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
70,78,139365,2,0,L|162:96,1,93,0|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,284,140333,6,0,L|368:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,180,140978,2,0,L|304:140,1,139.5,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
336,147,141623,2,0,L|336:44,1,93,2|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
200,192,142269,2,0,L|200:295,1,93,2|0,2:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
52,56,142914,6,0,L|52:252,1,186,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,344,144204,2,0,P|452:208|308:68,1,372,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
200,116,146140,6,0,L|401:147,1,186,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,285,147752,6,0,P|267:239|326:130,1,232.5,0|14,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:

hitsounds : https://www.dropbox.com/s/mt49wzq0luy3o ... S.zip?dl=0
toybot
1,050 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
toybot
Thank you for the overdose, Spec! :D
Badis
416 posts
Joined November 2010
Badis
Hey ;w; gonna mod Spec's Overdose diff o/
00:13:237 (2) - increase the distance between (2) and (3) that should emphasize the loud sound at (3)
00:23:237 - are you sure for the break ? I find this weird but can't really explain more x)
00:27:753 (1,2) - lack some intensity , looks like lines that are very close when we do the movement
00:57:754 (4) - what about the tail : X=252 for a better flow
01:20:092 (1) - this spinner doesn't fit with the situation should have circles here
02:11:140 (2) - what about X=476 , for a better flow ;w;
02:04:205 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I think this part should be harder , that's the climax of the song we need something intense
Well , that's all for me your map is really clean and all the spacings are good the timing isn't too tiny that's really a good job...as usual my dear Spec :)
Good luck minna o//////
MBomb
MBomb
CtB mod requested by toybot.

Spec's Overdose
00:10:334 (3) - Maybe have a spinner instead of this break, starting here?
00:15:974 - Add a circle on the 1/2 here.
00:16:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
00:18:076 (1) - ^
00:20:657 (3) - Remove this circle and have the spinner start here.
00:29:608 (9) - I'd have an NC here, and then remove the NC on 00:29:850 (1) - and add it to 00:30:173 (2) - .
00:30:903 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here.
00:32:108 (9) - NC.
00:35:899 (8,9) - Move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4.
00:39:944 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here.
00:40:574 - ^
00:41:060 (5,6) - I'd move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4 too.
00:42:033 - Add a circle on the 1/4.
00:42:270 (7) - This works better as just a 1/2 slider.
00:42:592 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
00:45:011 (6) - Make this just 2 circles instead.
00:48:721 (7) - NC.
00:54:044 (3) - Make this a 1/4 slider.
00:55:430 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here.
00:56:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider and move 00:57:108 (2) - back to the 1/4, then put a 1/4 slider on the 1/2.
00:57:431 (3,4) - ^ do the same here.
01:12:270 (2) - Start the spinner here instead.
01:17:915 (3) - I'd change this so that it goes like this instead.
01:20:011 (1) - Start the spinner here instead.
01:25:818 (3) - Make this a 1/2 slider.
01:27:753 (1) - ^
01:29:286 (3) - Remove.
01:31:530 - Place a circle on the 3/4.
01:32:270 (5) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once.
01:36:463 (5) - Make 4 hyper to this.
01:38:560 (2) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once.
01:39:205 (4) - The drum being at the end of this slider feels weird to me, I'd just make this two circles.
01:40:011 (4) - Make this a 1/2 slider.
01:49:366 (3,4) - Make this a 1/4 slider.
01:51:947 (5,6) - ^
02:01:866 (3) - Remove this note.
02:12:591 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once.
02:14:524 - Place a circle on the 1/1 here.
02:24:057 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here.
02:25:849 - Place a circle on the 1/2 here.

And done, love the map, have a star ;)
Spectator
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,780 posts
Joined February 2011
Spectator

Badis wrote:

Hey ;w; gonna mod Spec's Overdose diff o/
00:13:237 (2) - increase the distance between (2) and (3) that should emphasize the loud sound at (3) fixed
00:23:237 - are you sure for the break ? I find this weird but can't really explain more x) it does work perfect imo ;_; sorry I keep mine here
00:27:753 (1,2) - lack some intensity , looks like lines that are very close when we do the movement added a bit more movement
00:57:754 (4) - what about the tail : X=252 for a better flow sorry I wanna keep mine, also i feel like the flow here is ok as well
01:20:092 (1) - this spinner doesn't fit with the situation should have circles here i don't think so... I can't explain in a detail but it works really nice for me
02:11:140 (2) - what about X=476 , for a better flow ;w; moved to the right-side
02:04:205 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I think this part should be harder , that's the climax of the song we need something intense fixed
Well , that's all for me your map is really clean and all the spacings are good the timing isn't too tiny that's really a good job...as usual my dear Spec :)
Good luck minna o//////

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

CtB mod requested by toybot.

Spec's Overdose
00:10:334 (3) - Maybe have a spinner instead of this break, starting here? added
00:15:974 - Add a circle on the 1/2 here. It would totally ruin the consistency here
00:16:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once. then It would be unrankable as there're two fruits at the same time.
00:18:076 (1) - ^ ^
00:20:657 (3) - Remove this circle and have the spinner start here. I don't understand why should it be..
00:29:608 (9) - I'd have an NC here, and then remove the NC on 00:29:850 (1) - and add it to 00:30:173 (2) - . NC is fine imo
00:30:903 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here. Yeah there IS a sound, but sorry I wanna keep mine here.
00:32:108 (9) - NC. sorry but nope
00:35:899 (8,9) - Move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4. fixed
00:39:944 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here. sorry
00:40:574 - ^ nope
00:41:060 (5,6) - I'd move these notes forward to the 1/2 and 3/4 too. this is fine enough
00:42:033 - Add a circle on the 1/4. I don't hear anything here tbh
00:42:270 (7) - This works better as just a 1/2 slider. not really, it works better with 1/4 considering some consistency here
00:42:592 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once. As it seems fine to me, i'll keep mine sorry
00:45:011 (6) - Make this just 2 circles instead. What's the difference between 2 circles and slider?
00:48:721 (7) - NC. For a consistency, I'd like to keep this one without NC
00:54:044 (3) - Make this a 1/4 slider. I don't want to add 1/4 here. It's a section where the rhythm is changed
00:55:430 - Add a circle on the 3/4 here. It would ruin the flow
00:56:786 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider and move 00:57:108 (2) - back to the 1/4, then put a 1/4 slider on the 1/2. I don't agree with you, it would make this part even worse
00:57:431 (3,4) - ^ do the same here. Sorry, but I keep mine here
01:12:270 (2) - Start the spinner here instead. then I can't add hitsound which fits pretty nice with the song. As this note is reasonable at all, sorry i keep mine again
01:17:915 (3) - I'd change this so that it goes like this instead. I keep mine as well, sorry
01:20:011 (1) - Start the spinner here instead. nope
01:25:818 (3) - Make this a 1/2 slider. Why would it be? It plays pretty nice imo(also it fits the song)
01:27:753 (1) - ^ no
01:29:286 (3) - Remove. An additional note here sounds not bad though
01:31:530 - Place a circle on the 3/4. I don't think it's better
01:32:270 (5) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once. It plays awkward if i add 1/4
01:36:463 (5) - Make 4 hyper to this. I would consider fixing this one
01:38:560 (2) - Make this a 1/4 slider repeating once. sorry but it'll ruin the consistency at all, so I keep mine
01:39:205 (4) - The drum being at the end of this slider feels weird to me, I'd just make this two circles. again, what's the difference between them?
01:40:011 (4) - Make this a 1/2 slider. I'll keep the current 3/4, sorry
01:49:366 (3,4) - Make this a 1/4 slider. nope sorry
01:51:947 (5,6) - ^ ^
02:01:866 (3) - Remove this note. this is reasonable, removed
02:12:591 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider repeating once. I know that's acceptable as well, but can I keep mine here? I think it would be fine with just 1/1
02:14:524 - Place a circle on the 1/1 here. I don't want to add there as it sounds not really good, sorry no fix here
02:24:057 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here. added
02:25:849 - Place a circle on the 1/2 here. I'll keep mine, sorry

And done, love the map, have a star ;)

thanks for the mod guys!

http://puu.sh/gHRfn/256f9e8a6b.osu
Niko-nyan
1,990 posts
Joined June 2011
Niko-nyan
oh no im coming TKS


TK'S ONI
  1. 01:03:076 - how about kkddkkk / kkddkdk
  2. 01:23:882 - k (hear the violin)
nice diff TKS!

TK'S Muzukashii
  1. 01:08:399 - how about k ?

Seems fine at all for me
machol30
osu! Alumni
1,134 posts
Joined January 2008
machol30
Wow, this is interesting. Somehow, I managed to use the exact same image for the background for one of my maps. Anyway, I guess that means I'm modding this one. :) It may take me a while to actually get to it though, so I apologize in advance for tardy modding.
ZiRoX
Elite Mapper
1,019 posts
Joined November 2009
ZiRoX
This is out of my comfort zone when it comes to playing, trying my best.

[Spec's Overdose]
  1. 00:19:689 (2) - You can try to move this a bit to the right (I tried x:248 and it felt good, but you can try some other positions) to emphasize the drum a bit more.
  2. 00:20:657 (3) - I think (that's what I see) that the right side of the screen is more crowded with bananas in the spinner, so doing Ctrl+H on this one might lead to some more spinning competition :D
  3. 00:30:657 (7,1) - I'm not really fond of the antiflow here, I think moving 00:30:979 (1,2) - to x:480 provides a better flow.
  4. 00:34:528 (3) - I think this should be a 1/2, the same sound that the 1/4 is mapped to can be heard on the red tick at 00:35:173 (2) - . Also, the same sound is ignored on 00:34:044 (2) - , so it would be better for consistency.
  5. 00:36:947 (8) - I think Ctrl+G on this makes for a better flow
  6. 00:38:399 (8,1) - I think this part could have more spacing to emphasize the 1/1 slider a bit more. I think the following pattern for 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - plays nice:
    SPOILER
  7. 00:41:947 (5,6,7) - Noob player stuff: I think moving (6) to x:332 and (7) to x:180 makes this easier to catch after the hyperdash, making it more enjoyable by not-so-pro players.
  8. 00:51:060 (4) - I like this when Ctrl+G'd. Maybe curving 00:51:302 (5,6,7,8,1) - a bit also makes it flow better
  9. 00:54:044 (3) - Moving this to the left a bit may make it easier to catch after the large hyperdash.
  10. 01:12:270 (2) - Moving this to the right (I tried x:136) will leave the player in a better position to catch bananas and will still have the hyperdash.
  11. 01:19:366 (3) - I think this is a large jump, really close to hyperdash, which doesn't feel right to me. I think reducing distance a bit (x:24, for example) gives a better feeling.
  12. 01:43:721 (4,1) - This movement is a bit counter-intuitive. Also, both 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - play the same while the second one sounds stronger. My suggestion is to put 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - closer to the center (like this) and Ctrl+H on 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) -
  13. 01:51:705 (4,5,6,7,8) - I think you can Ctrl+H this to, first, make 01:51:463 (3,4) - easier, and give more emphasis on 01:52:189 (8,1) -


Hope something of this is actually useful.
Lurei
667 posts
Joined March 2014
Lurei
Yo. Modding from queue.


[Overview]
The following hitsound is unused (according to the unused hitsounds app):
drum-hitnormal30.wav -> And for some reason, it doesn't open when I try to hear it with Windows Player?
Inconsistency with Preview Point on Extreme and Spec's Overdose? You need to fix it, making preview point the same as the other diffs. Nvm, just noticed Preview Point is unsnapped, so go and snap it on 00:43:882 - on every diff! :o
Is there any special reason Kiai on your Extreme diff is different than the other two diffs mapped by you? If not, you should try making it the same.
And for some reason you only use the Custom set of hitsounds 30 on your Extreme (and Spec's diff) but not on the other diffs mapped by you. GDs can have hitsounds placed however they want, but you should make hitsounding on your diffs consistent for the mere effect of it.
For all GDs other than Spec's: 00:02:592 - Maybe you should consider using the Normal addition for the finish hitsound (or the drum-C:30 sampleset) on this beat. Sounds a bit more fitting IMO.
Other things seem to be okay.
[Lust's Beginner]
  1. 00:09:044 (1,1) - Aren't those objects a little closer to each other on the timeline? I think beginners need more time to prepare to hit something after an spinner, since some newbies spin quite crazily. Also, the circle is already visible before spinner ends, and it may confuse players since they may not know a hitobject can appear while there is an spinner on-screen. For this, I suggest erasing the circle 00:13:560 (1) - since ending the spinner earlier would be unfitting to the song IMO.
  2. 00:22:592 (3) - I think changing the "Additions" of the tail (end) of the slider to "Normal" fits better with the sound in this beat, as a Normal finish sounds like that psh-ish sound.
  3. 00:51:624 (4) - Well, a small part of the tail of this is out of screen on 4:3 resolution, but it shouldn't be an issue as slider is perfectly playable and the borders and reverse are on-screen. Just mentioning it since I'd suggest to make it fit on screen.
  4. 01:18:721 (3,4) - The blanket seems to need a bit of checking. Minor thing, but it's there. (>.<)/
  5. 01:54:850 (3) - I was wondering what's the reason for the clap on the reverse, if there's any...
  6. 02:06:463 (1,1) - Same thing as 00:09:044 (1,1) - as this seems to be pretty complex for beginners since you stack 02:11:946 (2,3) - and if that circle (02:10:656 (1) - ) takes them by surprise, they might not play that stack properly.
    Nice Beginner diff. I was only a bit nitpicky on the mod, but maybe it can be a bit useful (actually, I hope it is >.<)
[Standard]
  1. 0:23:237 - Maybe changing the hitsounding addition to Normal works a bit better here? I think Normal finish fits a bit more on this kind of sound.
  2. 00:38:721 (1) - This is a bit weird to play once you're testing it. Yeah, I know you're following the chime (?) here, but it's still ankward to play as players don't expect slider to end on a 1/2 note and then they have to play a note 3/2 beats apart (00:39:689 (2) - ). Maybe you should extend the slider to
  3. 00:39:366 - since that's the expected place for it to end.
  4. 00:43:882 (1,2,3,4) - You know... the finish HS doesn't really work on the reverse and end of those sliders. It sounds a bit unfitting, and I suggest to delete it. Same thing goes to the following pattern.
  5. 01:01:947 (1,2) - The blanket here needs a slight fix, as well as the one on 01:18:721 (3,1) - and 01:32:592 (5,1) -
  6. 01:45:818 (1,2,1,2) - o well, I guess I don't need to say what I think about it here (read 00:43:882 (1,2,3,4) - ).
  7. 02:10:656 (1) - Hm... I was kinda expecting a whistle on the head of this. Same for 02:12:591 (2) -
Nice and fitting diff. There were some other blankets I didn't mentioned since I don't wanna blanket-spam mod. Just did it to make you aware of it.
[Hyper]
  1. 00:21:302 (2,3) - Well, I kinda thought of moving this a bit upside merely to avoid the overlapping. Minor business, but it should also enhance your flow a little bit.
  2. 00:37:108 (4,1) - Yeah, blanket. :P
  3. 00:38:237 (3,1) - I think those are too close to each other. At first, I thought this was only a 1/2 beat apart until I noticed the approach circle. :o Maybe you should space them a bit further, to indicate the 1/1 gap better.
  4. 00:43:882 - Well, you know what I think of this section since I said so in Normal, right? (hitsounds) Same for 01:45:818 - ;w;
  5. 00:46:382 - Place note here for a triplet? Should work as a warning for your next patterns, since you start placing notes 1/4 apart of each other.
  6. 01:22:592 (1) - I'm glad there are sliderticks that showed me the way, since the shape here's so ambiguous. Maybe you should make the center of the slider visible like this (well, not exactly; but I think you'll get my point).
  7. 01:55:495 (2,1) - Fix blanket a bit. Same for symmetrical 01:56:786 (2,1,2) -
  8. 02:10:656 (1) - Swap whistle in the tail to the head, maybe? Fits better IMO.
  9. 02:20:656 (1,2) - Maybe fits better if you place the whistle on first slider's tail and remove the one on the head of second one.
  10. 02:23:559 (3) - Maybe place a whistle on the head? Keep the one at the tail, through.
  11. 02:26:140 - Whistle?
  12. 02:26:785 (2,3) - ^ (on the heads)
Well, I think that's it. Hitsounding is a little unfitting (mentioned it ^), but overall it's a fine diff. o/
o the following diffs are too OP for me to mod (like damn, I can't even play the Another properly; too much overlapping patterns >.<) Sorry, but I have to leave mod until here as I don't think I'll be able to judge diff properly.

Map is okay overall, and there's always a little bit of diff spike at the end of all diffs, allowing to close gaps and make a fluid diff transition.

Hopefully this will be ranked soon. Good luck. ;)

Off-topic Edit: Oh, 500 posts finally. Yay!

Lust Edit: I ended up editing this post somehow and screwing up with the formatting, I have a back up copy but unfortunately the formatting is gone :C My apologies!

Lust Edit v2: Fixed the formatting \o/
Last edited by Lust , edited 7 times in total.
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
ARE YOU SERIOUS I HAVE THE EXACT SAME DNB SAMPLE LMAOO
general
Lust
  1. 00:51:624 (4) - p sure dis is wayyyyyy offscreen
  2. 01:40:334 (2) - to keep the rhythmical consistency I'd say u sud add a circle here but yea
  3. idk it's mostly just rhythmically inconsistent tbh throughout the diff but it looks p nice n safe so
Std mode
  1. 00:32:270 (3) - would say 2 make dis str8 cuz slider consistency or w/e but yea it doesnt rlly matter
  2. 01:25:818 (2,3) - if ur gunna use this rhythmic pattern then i'd strongly advise u to use it forward on too, because i was expecting it to play out like this at 01:28:721 (2,3) - too me mane
  3. 02:10:656 (1,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ugly af overlap ngl zzz
GET HYPER
  1. 00:49:770 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - would say u sudnt do this here because ur usual hard player doesn't have dis kinda finger control but yea
  2. 01:46:786 (3,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwuglyoverlap
  3. 02:10:656 (1) - woah ok i'd suggest using larger spacing because i thought the rhythmical distance between the slider and circle was 1/2 nd not 1/1 or smth zzz
kentORZ
  1. 00:54:205 (1) - would lower sv a bit at this whole part imo it's a teensy weensy bit 2 op but w/e
  2. nice gh
eXTREMEMEMEREMR
  1. ok nice diff i guess lol nothing that was rlly bad imo


ok
toybot
1,050 posts
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Topic Starter
toybot
LixRei

LixRei wrote:

Yo. Modding from queue.

[Overview]

  1. The following hitsound is unused (according to the unused hitsounds app):
    1. drum-hitnormal30.wav -> And for some reason, it doesn't open when I try to hear it with Windows Player?
  2. Inconsistency with Preview Point on Extreme and Spec's Overdose? You need to fix it, making preview point the same as the other diffs. Nvm, just noticed Preview Point is unsnapped, so go and snap it on 00:43:882 - on every diff! :o
  3. Is there any special reason Kiai on your Extreme diff is different than the other two diffs mapped by you? If not, you should try making it the same. -what? i'm pretty sure they're the same.
  4. And for some reason you only use the Custom set of hitsounds 30 on your Extreme (and Spec's diff) but not on the other diffs mapped by you. GDs can have hitsounds placed however they want, but you should make hitsounding on your diffs consistent for the mere effect of it. - I'd rather just leave the 30 sampleset to peak diffs, i suppose.
  5. For all GDs other than Spec's: 00:02:592 - Maybe you should consider using the Normal addition for the finish hitsound (or the drum-C:30 sampleset) on this beat. Sounds a bit more fitting IMO.
  6. Other things seem to be okay.

[Standard]

  1. 01:45:818 (1,2,1,2) - o well, I guess I don't need to say what I think about it here (read 00:43:882 (1,2,3,4) - ). - i'm gonna keep the finishes anyway, they fit the intensity imo
  2. Nice and fitting diff. There were some other blankets I didn't mentioned since I don't wanna blanket-spam mod. Just did it to make you aware of it.

[Hyper]

  1. 00:21:302 (2,3) - Well, I kinda thought of moving this a bit upside merely to avoid the overlapping. Minor business, but it should also enhance your flow a little bit. - overlapping is intentional. changed slider shape of (2) though
  2. 00:37:108 (4,1) - Yeah, blanket. :P - this one's fine rn
  3. 00:46:382 - Place note here for a triplet? Should work as a warning for your next patterns, since you start placing notes 1/4 apart of each other.
  4. 01:22:592 (1) - I'm glad there are sliderticks that showed me the way, since the shape here's so ambiguous. Maybe you should make the center of the slider visible like this (well, not exactly; but I think you'll get my point). -eh, i want the shape symmetrical kinda
  5. 02:10:656 (1) - Swap whistle in the tail to the head, maybe? Fits better IMO. -suggestions from this onward, i had remapped this section.
  6. Well, I think that's it. Hitsounding is a little unfitting (mentioned it ^), but overall it's a fine diff. o/

o the following diffs are too OP for me to mod (like damn, I can't even play the Another properly; too much overlapping patterns >.<) Sorry, but I have to leave mod until here as I don't think I'll be able to judge diff properly.

Map is okay overall, and there's always a little bit of diff spike at the end of all diffs, allowing to close gaps and make a fluid diff transition.

Hopefully this will be ranked soon. Good luck. ;)

Off-topic Edit: Oh, 500 posts finally. Yay!

memelord
SPOILER

VINXIS wrote:

ARE YOU SERIOUS I HAVE THE EXACT SAME DNB SAMPLE LMAOO
general
Std mode
  1. 00:32:270 (3) - would say 2 make dis str8 cuz slider consistency or w/e but yea it doesnt rlly matter -meh
  2. 01:25:818 (2,3) - if ur gunna use this rhythmic pattern then i'd strongly advise u to use it forward on too, because i was expecting it to play out like this at 01:28:721 (2,3) - too me mane - decided to just make this 1/1 stuff
GET HYPER
  1. 01:46:786 (3,2) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwuglyoverlap -pls
  2. 02:10:656 (1) - woah ok i'd suggest using larger spacing because i thought the rhythmical distance between the slider and circle was 1/2 nd not 1/1 or smth zzz -remapped this section
eXTREMEMEMEREMR
  1. ok nice diff i guess lol nothing that was rlly bad imo -thx mang


ok

thanks for mods!
Lust
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Joined January 2013
Lust
LixRei
[Lust's Beginner]

  1. 00:09:044 (1,1) - Aren't those objects a little closer to each other on the timeline? I think beginners need more time to prepare to hit something after an spinner, since some newbies spin quite crazily. Also, the circle is already visible before spinner ends, and it may confuse players since they may not know a hitobject can appear while there is an spinner on-screen. For this, I suggest erasing the circle 00:13:560 (1) - since ending the spinner earlier would be unfitting to the song IMO. fixed (this diff was made before people were so sensitive over spinner recovery times)
  2. 00:22:592 (3) - I think changing the "Additions" of the tail (end) of the slider to "Normal" fits better with the sound in this beat, as a Normal finish sounds like that psh-ish sound. i'll leave this to toybot to fix, as i just copied hitsounds
  3. 00:51:624 (4) - Well, a small part of the tail of this is out of screen on 4:3 resolution, but it shouldn't be an issue as slider is perfectly playable and the borders and reverse are on-screen. Just mentioning it since I'd suggest to make it fit on screen. ffs, fixed
  4. 01:18:721 (3,4) - The blanket seems to need a bit of checking. Minor thing, but it's there. (>.<)/ looks fine to me, and this is practically unnoticeable in gameplay anyway
  5. 01:54:850 (3) - I was wondering what's the reason for the clap on the reverse, if there's any... dont ask me ask toybot :(
  6. 02:06:463 (1,1) - Same thing as 00:09:044 (1,1) - as this seems to be pretty complex for beginners since you stack 02:11:946 (2,3) - and if that circle (02:10:656 (1) - ) takes them by surprise, they might not play that stack properly. i have no idea what you just said here, but removed one of the circles for more recovery time

nothing changed from VINXIS's mod
thank you for the mods

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toybot please apply the hitsounds for me, thank you
toybot
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Topic Starter
toybot


gg son
Spectator
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,780 posts
Joined February 2011
Spectator

ZiRoX wrote:

This is out of my comfort zone when it comes to playing, trying my best.

[Spec's Overdose]
  1. 00:19:689 (2) - You can try to move this a bit to the right (I tried x:248 and it felt good, but you can try some other positions) to emphasize the drum a bit more. fixed
  2. 00:20:657 (3) - I think (that's what I see) that the right side of the screen is more crowded with bananas in the spinner, so doing Ctrl+H on this one might lead to some more spinning competition :D cool
  3. 00:30:657 (7,1) - I'm not really fond of the antiflow here, I think moving 00:30:979 (1,2) - to x:480 provides a better flow. wanna keep this
  4. 00:34:528 (3) - I think this should be a 1/2, the same sound that the 1/4 is mapped to can be heard on the red tick at 00:35:173 (2) - . Also, the same sound is ignored on 00:34:044 (2) - , so it would be better for consistency. though I can still hear the sound at 00:34:770 - , sorry gonna keep mine
  5. 00:36:947 (8) - I think Ctrl+G on this makes for a better flow I personally prefer current flow, sorry
  6. 00:38:399 (8,1) - I think this part could have more spacing to emphasize the 1/1 slider a bit more. I think the following pattern for 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - plays nice: fixed
    SPOILER
  7. 00:41:947 (5,6,7) - Noob player stuff: I think moving (6) to x:332 and (7) to x:180 makes this easier to catch after the hyperdash, making it more enjoyable by not-so-pro players. oh sure, fixed
  8. 00:51:060 (4) - I like this when Ctrl+G'd. Maybe curving 00:51:302 (5,6,7,8,1) - a bit also makes it flow better fixed
  9. 00:54:044 (3) - Moving this to the left a bit may make it easier to catch after the large hyperdash. fixed
  10. 01:12:270 (2) - Moving this to the right (I tried x:136) will leave the player in a better position to catch bananas and will still have the hyperdash. fixed
  11. 01:19:366 (3) - I think this is a large jump, really close to hyperdash, which doesn't feel right to me. I think reducing distance a bit (x:24, for example) gives a better feeling. fixed
  12. 01:43:721 (4,1) - This movement is a bit counter-intuitive. Also, both 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - play the same while the second one sounds stronger. My suggestion is to put 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - closer to the center (like this) and Ctrl+H on 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - nice idea
  13. 01:51:705 (4,5,6,7,8) - I think you can Ctrl+H this to, first, make 01:51:463 (3,4) - easier, and give more emphasis on 01:52:189 (8,1) - I prefer mine ;w;


Hope something of this is actually useful.

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machol30
osu! Alumni
1,134 posts
Joined January 2008
machol30
Sorry again for tardy mod. :(

Unfortunately, there are some things that I am going to neglect to really have a look at, such as new combos.

[General]
In my opinion, the blue combo colors need to contrast more. There needs to be a greater progression among the combo colors.

[Lust's Beginner]
00:34:044 (3) - I'm not sure about the hitsound for the ending of this slider. :/ It feels awkward to me having its pair (00:38:076 (3)) so far away without anything to match in between. But maybe that's just me. Ignore if you'd like.
The first kiai time seemed to lack consistency to me. It starts off like the rest of the map, then gets more intense at 01:31:624 (2,3,1,2,3), and then dies back down again. Why not have the greater intensity all throughout the kiai time?
01:53:237 (3,1,2,3) - Isolated claps make no sense to me.

[Standard]
00:43:237 (1) - Personally, I don't like short sliders like these. I would just have a standard hitcircle, but I guess that's just personal.
00:51:624 (1,2,3,4) - I would consider continuing the hitfinish sounds. It's awkwards as it then feels empty here while the section following seems too strong by comparison. It surprised me.
01:02:270 (2,3,2) - Same thing here. I want to see the momentum keep going.
01:53:560 (3) - I like the switch here. However, I still think that there's room for improvement here. I can't really tell you what to do here. You'll have to experiment, or if not, that's fine too.

[Hyper]
Same things apply here as in [Standard].
00:16:302 (2,1) - In general in this map, I would be careful about overlapping sliders. Some of it is okay, but when it's really close like this, it's unappealing to me.

[Kentez's Another]
00:02:592 (3,4,1,2,1,1) - I think that these are just too close together. I would separate them more across the playfield and avoid stay monotonously close to the center.
00:23:237 (1) - I would get together about what to do with this hitsound. It should be consistent among all difficulties.
00:43:237 (4) - I have a similar comment for this as in [Standard]. However, I think it fits better here due to the faster pace. I would actually probably keep it. ;)
For the kiai times, I would consider adding in some of the normal finishes that are in the other difficulties. Just something to consider. Same thing with the soft whistles in the last section. Keeping the consistency among difficulties. Speak amongst yourself regarding this matter.
Wow! I love the patterns in this one!! :)

[Extreme]
Pretty good in my opinion! :) Love them patterns and hitsounds. Maybe others will hate, but oh well.

The main things to take away from this I guess would be keeping consistency where it really matters among all difficulties even with multiple mappers in my opinion. I also think that easier difficulties a lacking. They don't have the consistency in hitsounds, patterns, rhythm, and the like. Maybe I need to dig deeper, but I don't really see it on the surface.

Best of luck!
Daniel
toybot
1,050 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
toybot

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Sorry again for tardy mod. :(

Unfortunately, there are some things that I am going to neglect to really have a look at, such as new combos.

[General]
In my opinion, the blue combo colors need to contrast more. There needs to be a greater progression among the combo colors. - I'll try to apply this when everything is updated

[Standard]
00:43:237 (1) - Personally, I don't like short sliders like these. I would just have a standard hitcircle, but I guess that's just personal. -changed
00:51:624 (1,2,3,4) - I would consider continuing the hitfinish sounds. It's awkwards as it then feels empty here while the section following seems too strong by comparison. It surprised me. - this part is kind of a buildup, thus a bit calmer
01:02:270 (2,3,2) - Same thing here. I want to see the momentum keep going. -changed
01:53:560 (3) - I like the switch here. However, I still think that there's room for improvement here. I can't really tell you what to do here. You'll have to experiment, or if not, that's fine too.

[Hyper]
Same things apply here as in [Standard].
00:16:302 (2,1) - In general in this map, I would be careful about overlapping sliders. Some of it is okay, but when it's really close like this, it's unappealing to me. - it doesn't overlap really there, i think it's fine. all overlaps are intentional tbh

[Extreme]
Pretty good in my opinion! :) Love them patterns and hitsounds. Maybe others will hate, but oh well. - c:

The main things to take away from this I guess would be keeping consistency where it really matters among all difficulties even with multiple mappers in my opinion. I also think that easier difficulties a lacking. They don't have the consistency in hitsounds, patterns, rhythm, and the like. Maybe I need to dig deeper, but I don't really see it on the surface.

Best of luck!
Daniel
thanks!
Deif
Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon
3,564 posts
Joined April 2010
Deif
Awesome song and mapset. Just passing by~

[Extreme]
  1. 02:05:739 (8) - This note is unsnapped! There are other notes in the surroundings that are also slightly snapped (though AIMod doesn't detect those), so you might give a general check to the map, or simply get the objects snapped with the Timing control panel.
[Overdose]
  1. I wouldn't use those kiai flashes. Strong hitsounds make those spots relevant enough, and triggering such short kiais could make some PCs lag. Try to avoid the ones of 00:23:237 - 02:10:011 - .
  2. 00:54:205 - This kiai flash can also be avoided. It's true that in some songs the kiais can be "halved" like that, though the pace in this one is quite continuous. I'd rather let a longer kiai than 2 smaller ones in this case.
  3. Some jumps in the kiai times felt slightly off. Checking the timeline some inconsistencies were detected, so you might take a look at then. It's about the distance of some slider and the position of the jumps there:
    SPOILER
    1. 00:54:205 (1,2) - The distance of those sliders should be the other way around (1/2 and 3/4) http://puu.sh/hu1fz/ce944f7e3a.jpg. In other similar chords, that was the order of the sliders, and it was more confortable to play imo.
    2. 00:54:850 (3,4) - ^
    3. 00:55:495 (5,6) - ^
    4. 00:56:141 (7,8) - In this case, the sound of the beat is the same as in previous examples, though you prefered to insert the jump already at the red tick.
    5. 00:56:786 (1,2) - We come again to the 3/4-1/2 sliders, which should be 1/2-3/4 instead
    6. 00:57:431 (3,4) - ^
    7. 00:58:076 (1,2) - And here again, you changed it back to a 1/2-3/4 thingy.
    8. 00:59:366 (1,2) - uguguguuu
    9. 01:56:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - More examples of those sliders can be found here and below.
    10. 01:58:721 (1,2) -
    11. 02:01:302 (1,2) -
    12. 02:02:592 (1,2) -
  4. 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - I'm seeing that lately quite often. Those notes, referring to (1) and (3), are in the plain border of the screen and the probabilities that the catcher hits the wall are high > loss of stability by hitting the wall > odd playgame sensation that can lead to a miss. Try to distance slightly those beats from the edges of the screen.
  5. 02:05:818 (1) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?).
  6. 02:05:980 (2) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?).
[]
I think CLSW wanted to take a look at it tomorrow as well, so I'll let him do it. If there wasn't any answer in a few days, feel free to call me for a recheck!
toybot
1,050 posts
Joined June 2013
Topic Starter
toybot
kenterz gave me permission to change his diff

Didn't change from vinxis since I personally think SV there is fine as an intensifier

buraimaster1234 wrote:

[Kentez's Another]
00:02:592 (3,4,1,2,1,1) - I think that these are just too close together. I would separate them more across the playfield and avoid stay monotonously close to the center. - I think having the sliders like this at this distance is fine and plays well as a calm part.
00:23:237 (1) - I would get together about what to do with this hitsound. It should be consistent among all difficulties. -changed
00:43:237 (4) - I have a similar comment for this as in [Standard]. However, I think it fits better here due to the faster pace. I would actually probably keep it. ;)
For the kiai times, I would consider adding in some of the normal finishes that are in the other difficulties. Just something to consider. Same thing with the soft whistles in the last section. Keeping the consistency among difficulties. Speak amongst yourself regarding this matter.
Wow! I love the patterns in this one!! :)

Best of luck!
Daniel
fixed unsnapped note from Deif in Extreme

waiting for spec's response
Spectator
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,780 posts
Joined February 2011
Spectator

Deif wrote:

Awesome song and mapset. Just passing by~

[Extreme]
  1. 02:05:739 (8) - This note is unsnapped! There are other notes in the surroundings that are also slightly snapped (though AIMod doesn't detect those), so you might give a general check to the map, or simply get the objects snapped with the Timing control panel.
[Overdose]
  1. I wouldn't use those kiai flashes. Strong hitsounds make those spots relevant enough, and triggering such short kiais could make some PCs lag. Try to avoid the ones of 00:23:237 - 02:10:011 - . I'd keep mine, I thought hitsounds were not enough
  2. 00:54:205 - This kiai flash can also be avoided. It's true that in some songs the kiais can be "halved" like that, though the pace in this one is quite continuous. I'd rather let a longer kiai than 2 smaller ones in this case. makes sense, removed
  3. Some jumps in the kiai times felt slightly off. Checking the timeline some inconsistencies were detected, so you might take a look at then. It's about the distance of some slider and the position of the jumps there:
    SPOILER
    1. 00:54:205 (1,2) - The distance of those sliders should be the other way around (1/2 and 3/4) http://puu.sh/hu1fz/ce944f7e3a.jpg. In other similar chords, that was the order of the sliders, and it was more confortable to play imo. fixed
    2. 00:54:850 (3,4) - ^ ^
    3. 00:55:495 (5,6) - ^ ^
    4. 00:56:141 (7,8) - In this case, the sound of the beat is the same as in previous examples, though you prefered to insert the jump already at the red tick.
    5. 00:56:786 (1,2) - We come again to the 3/4-1/2 sliders, which should be 1/2-3/4 instead ^
    6. 00:57:431 (3,4) - ^ ^
    7. 00:58:076 (1,2) - And here again, you changed it back to a 1/2-3/4 thingy. ^
    8. 00:59:366 (1,2) - uguguguuu ^
    9. 01:56:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - More examples of those sliders can be found here and below. ^
    10. 01:58:721 (1,2) - ^
    11. 02:01:302 (1,2) - ^
    12. 02:02:592 (1,2) -
  4. 01:44:044 (1,2,3,4) - I'm seeing that lately quite often. Those notes, referring to (1) and (3), are in the plain border of the screen and the probabilities that the catcher hits the wall are high > loss of stability by hitting the wall > odd playgame sensation that can lead to a miss. Try to distance slightly those beats from the edges of the screen. ok, fixed
  5. 02:05:818 (1) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?). fixed as well
  6. 02:05:980 (2) - Unsnapped slider (1/8 intended?). ^
[]
I think CLSW wanted to take a look at it tomorrow as well, so I'll let him do it. If there wasn't any answer in a few days, feel free to call me for a recheck!
It's quite surprising, I thought all ctb QATs are interested only in clsw's maps

anyway, thanks for the mod

overdose
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CLSW
osu! Alumni
2,182 posts
Joined October 2010
CLSW
[General]
02:10:011 Is this redline necessary? It's just a half of the general bpm 186, so you may remove and add 0.5x SV change instead.

[Spec's Overdose]
00:14:044 (4,1) - 여기에 조그만 점프 하나 넣어두시는게 좋을거같습니다.
00:17:915 (3) - 하이퍼대시는 곡 분위기상 그렇게 좋아보이진 않은데 그냥 롱 점프 하나로 대신하시는게
00:43:076 (2) - 하이퍼대시 넣어주시면 잘 어울릴거같네요. 저는 00:43:237 (3) - 을 x : 304로 옮겨봤습니다.
02:20:978 (2,3) - Same as 00:14:044 (4,1)

그 외 다른 파트들은 흠잡을 곳이 없네요. 정말 잘 만드셨습니다.

/me pokes deif
Spectator
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
1,780 posts
Joined February 2011
Spectator

CLSW wrote:

[General]
02:10:011 Is this redline necessary? It's just a half of the general bpm 186, so you may remove and add 0.5x SV change instead. /me pokes toybot

[Spec's Overdose]
00:14:044 (4,1) - 여기에 조그만 점프 하나 넣어두시는게 좋을거같습니다.
00:17:915 (3) - 하이퍼대시는 곡 분위기상 그렇게 좋아보이진 않은데 그냥 롱 점프 하나로 대신하시는게
00:43:076 (2) - 하이퍼대시 넣어주시면 잘 어울릴거같네요. 저는 00:43:237 (3) - 을 x : 304로 옮겨봤습니다.
02:20:978 (2,3) - Same as 00:14:044 (4,1) 여긴 유지하겠습니다.

그 외 다른 파트들은 흠잡을 곳이 없네요. 정말 잘 만드셨습니다.

/me pokes deif
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328,314,109689,6,0,P|372:318|450:303,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,232,109931,2,0,P|450:225|510:238,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,152,110173,2,0,P|297:162|242:159,1,111.599996594238,2|0,2:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,76,110415,2,0,P|367:69|427:82,1,111.599996594238,14|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
278,125,110657,1,2,1:0:0:0:
218,114,110737,1,0,0:0:0:0:
157,103,110818,1,2,0:1:0:0:
96,92,110899,1,0,0:0:0:0:
23,161,110979,6,0,P|86:176|163:161,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,228,111221,2,0,P|151:243|74:228,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,171,111463,2,0,L|452:234,1,111.599996594238,0|0,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,256,111705,2,0,L|351:319,1,111.599996594238,8|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,351,111947,1,0,1:0:0:0:
59,315,112028,1,0,0:0:0:0:
39,257,112108,1,0,0:0:0:0:
57,198,112189,1,0,0:0:0:0:
107,163,112270,6,0,L|252:196,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
405,163,112511,2,0,L|260:196,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
106,288,112753,2,0,P|91:223|107:162,1,111.599996594238
406,288,112995,2,0,P|421:223|405:162,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,69,113237,2,0,L|107:46,1,55.7999982971192,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
318,350,113399,2,0,L|405:373,1,55.7999982971192,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
129,331,113560,6,0,L|4:293,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
175,207,113802,2,0,L|300:169,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
75,99,114044,2,0,L|2:80,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,331,114205,2,0,L|508:293,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
337,207,114447,2,0,L|212:169,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
495,136,114689,2,0,L|510:78,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
319,94,114850,6,0,L|196:76,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
13,126,115092,2,0,L|124:144,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
378,222,115334,2,0,L|324:232,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
130,302,115495,6,0,L|20:319,1,111.599996594238,2|0,2:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
302,236,115737,2,0,L|413:254,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
109,187,115979,2,0,L|54:177,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
283,146,116141,6,0,P|337:158|391:144,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,93,116382,2,0,P|95:68|15:86,1,167.399994891358,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
130,218,116786,2,0,P|112:166|132:116,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,136,117028,2,0,P|371:216|352:298,1,167.399994891358,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,113,117431,2,0,P|291:124|344:108,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
495,199,117673,2,0,P|414:179|334:197,1,167.399994891358,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,212,118076,6,0,L|209:235,1,111.599996594238,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,156,118318,2,0,L|282:192,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,112,118560,2,0,L|56:92,1,55.7999982971192,12|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,190,118721,6,0,P|376:210|432:208,1,111.599996594238,4|0,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,323,118964,2,0,P|93:308|14:333,1,167.399994891358,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,149,119366,2,0,L|212:125,1,55.7999982971192,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,102,119608,2,0,L|292:78,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,77,119850,2,0,L|220:53,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
462,233,120011,5,4,1:2:0:0:
470,117,120227,1,12,1:0:0:0:
38,203,120442,1,12,1:0:0:0:
30,71,120657,1,12,1:1:0:0:
487,46,120872,1,4,1:2:0:0:
479,162,121088,1,12,1:0:0:0:
74,335,121302,6,0,P|59:255|81:154,1,167.399994891358,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
158,84,121624,2,0,P|167:140|153:192,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
214,202,121866,1,0,0:0:0:0:
275,212,121947,1,4,0:0:0:0:
337,221,122028,6,0,P|393:204|460:219,1,111.599996594238,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
291,300,122270,2,0,L|184:315,1,55.7999982971192,12|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,127,122431,2,0,L|475:142,1,55.7999982971192
227,67,122592,6,0,L|58:112,1,167.399994891358,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,155,122915,2,0,L|342:189,1,111.599996594238,12|2,1:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
390,189,123157,1,0,0:0:0:0:
445,188,123237,1,4,0:0:0:0:
501,188,123318,6,0,L|389:194,1,111.599996594238,12|0,1:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
237,228,123560,1,12,1:0:0:0:
176,223,123641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,218,123721,1,2,0:0:0:0:
55,213,123802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
3,208,123882,5,12,1:0:0:0:
382,277,124044,1,8,1:0:0:0:
252,221,124205,1,8,1:1:0:0:
126,166,124366,1,8,1:1:0:0:
509,208,124528,5,12,1:0:0:0:
130,277,124689,1,8,1:0:0:0:
260,221,124850,1,8,1:1:0:0:
386,166,125011,1,8,1:1:0:0:
115,47,125173,5,4,1:0:0:0:
76,71,125254,1,4,1:0:0:0:
50,109,125335,1,4,1:0:0:0:
37,153,125415,1,4,1:0:0:0:
38,199,125496,1,4,1:0:0:0:
54,243,125577,1,4,1:0:0:0:
85,277,125657,1,4,1:0:0:0:
128,297,125738,1,4,1:0:0:0:
452,126,125818,6,12,L|492:139,1,27.8999991485596,12|12,1:1|1:1,1:1:0:0:
60,258,125980,2,12,L|21:245,1,27.8999991485596,12|12,1:1|1:1,1:1:0:0:
491,275,126141,2,8,L|482:316,7,27.8999991485596,8|8|8|8|8|8|8|8,1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1|1:1,1:1:0:0:
179,337,126463,5,2,1:3:0:0:
256,192,126544,12,0,129689,0:0:0:0:
255,133,130011,6,0,P|128:140|60:116,1,186,4|2,1:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,105,131140,2,0,L|340:105,1,46.5,0|2,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
158,262,131623,2,0,L|266:278,1,93,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,156,132591,6,0,L|280:120,1,186,0|0,1:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
112,88,133881,2,0,L|236:72,1,93,2|4,1:1|1:0,1:0:0:0:
192,176,135172,6,0,L|8:152,1,186,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,88,136301,2,0,L|200:80,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
304,280,136785,2,0,L|196:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,176,137752,6,0,L|504:152,1,186,0|2,1:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
269,128,138881,2,0,L|224:140,1,46.5,4|2,0:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
70,78,139365,2,0,L|162:96,1,93,0|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,284,140333,6,0,L|368:260,1,93,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,180,140978,2,0,L|304:140,1,139.5,2|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
336,147,141623,2,0,L|336:44,1,93,2|0,1:0|1:0,1:0:0:0:
200,192,142269,2,0,L|200:295,1,93,2|0,2:0|2:0,1:0:0:0:
52,56,142914,6,0,L|52:252,1,186,4|2,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,344,144204,2,0,P|452:208|308:68,1,372,2|0,1:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
200,116,146140,6,0,L|401:147,1,186,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,285,147752,6,0,P|267:239|326:130,1,232.5,0|14,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:

others are fixed
thanks
toybot
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toybot
@CLSW I believe the red line halving BPM is fine, since there's such a huge change of pace there.

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Deif
Elite Mapper / osu!catch Paragon
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Joined April 2010
Deif

Spectator wrote:

It's quite surprising, I thought all ctb QATs are interested only in clsw's maps
I'll slap you if you keep thinking like that :(
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  • Special
  1. 00:15:495 (1) - i think its better curved outside than inside so http://puu.sh/hB3tR/c2a7e0c758.jpg
  2. 01:18:560 - try add a circle here

    nothing else. gud

  • Another
  1. 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - try make this pattern more symmetrical
toybot
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toybot

Kloyd wrote:

  • Special
  1. 00:15:495 (1) - i think its better curved outside than inside so http://puu.sh/hB3tR/c2a7e0c758.jpg - I think shape right now is cleaner
  2. 01:18:560 - try add a circle here - added

    nothing else. gud

  • Another
  1. 01:43:237 (1,2,3,4) - try make this pattern more symmetrical - added
I feel like there'll be more, but thx for mod +star!
pishifat
osu! Paragon
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Joined August 2013
pishifat
can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz

[general]
  1. softclap30 and softslidertick50 delay
[lust]
  1. 01:53:237 (3,1,2,3) - default claps sound really out of place. if you were using N:C1 it would be fine but default claps just don't compliment the song at all
[standard]
  1. 00:31:624 (2) - 00:41:302 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 00:28:399 (1) - 00:29:689 (3) - 00:32:270 (3) -
  2. 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is there a reason why these change from 1.0x spacing to 0.9x? music isn't doing anything fancy so spacing decrease seems just weird
  3. 00:51:302 (4,1,2,3,4) - would probably make more sense to have the 1.1x increase starting at 00:54:205 (1) - since music gets more intenseidunno. having it in hte middle of the phrase seems unfitting
  4. 01:20:011 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 01:14:850 (1) -
  5. 01:27:753 (1) - head whistle inconsistent with the other stuff yayeeya
[hyper]
  1. 00:02:592 (2) - hitsound tho
  2. 00:53:560 (1) - so far into the hp bar holy
  3. 00:54:044 (2,3,1) - stack leniency stuff causes an overlap with this and the previous object, so would probably be good to move stuff down to counteract that
  4. 01:17:915 (2) - would be nice to lower volume for the slidertickclap to like 45%. right now it's louder than the head and tail which can be obnoxious (especially when it's just there to compliment the song instead of actually matching it). would also apply to insane/special's tick hitsounds
  5. 01:33:721 (2) - finish on head cuz ya
[insane]
  1. 00:31:624 (3) - 00:34:044 (2) - whistle on tail for reasons
[kenterz]
  1. i can't tell what some of your spacing is supposed to be emphasizing. take the section at 00:12:915 (1) - as an example -- i get that you want to make the downbeat stand out, but everything else seems to follow nothing. sliders like 00:13:560 (3) - 00:14:850 (3) - 00:16:141 (3) - etc have the same sounds yet spacing varies drastically between all of them. seeing why this map was disqualified could probably help explain things. this applies mostly to the sections at 00:12:915 (1) - and 01:14:850 (1) - , but it really wouldn't hurt to go through the rest of the difficulty and see how spacing can correspond with the song better so things are more intuitive to play
  2. there's also a lot of rhythms that seem to accent weaker sounds while ignoring stronger sounds. for example, 00:34:366 (6) - has the main melody bell sound/snare, whereas head just has a kick. that bell thing is the thing being focused on, so your mapping should indicate that as well. reading the first part of this dq may also be a good idea. some other examples of weird emphasis: 00:38:237 (4) - 00:41:786 (2) - 01:26:302 (1) - 01:28:560 (6) - etc. pretty sure this was what i complained about a lot in your pokemon marathon too lol
  3. 00:51:624 (1) - the decreasing volume thing as an idea is fine, but right now it's too quiet. soft sampleset is pretty much inaudible at 35% when song is super loud. furthermore volume only goes back up to 50% after this, whereas 65% (what it was before the volume decrease) is a lot more appropriate
  4. 01:47:753 (3,6) - would look neater to not have these overlapping
  5. 01:48:076 (4,5,6) - spacing is pretty derp. i assume 5 was meant to be stacked
  6. 01:55:979 (8,1,2,3) - stack leniency makes these look probably not like what you were intending. may wnat to move things so they're in the right places yeayea
[special]sliderbreaks:(
  1. hp7 would be better. doesn't matter that kenterz's diff uses it too, 7.5 is just higher than what the difficulty itself should be (which is why you'll see a lot of extras with lower hp than insanes)
  2. 00:58:076 (1,2,3,4) - when initially playing i screwed up here cuz i was expecting anotehr double. music supports my screwing up with emphasis more on 00:58:318 - than 00:58:237 - . would be different from 00:56:947 (2) - since there's some synth sound actually there
  3. 02:25:494 (1,2,1,1) - is there a reason why hitsound volumes are higher than other diffs? especially weird the last slider which you made louder whereas other diffs you made softer
so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better
toybot
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deleted = fixed

pishifat wrote:

can you show me where your metadata is from because i am retarded thankz
http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cg ... f&event=88 (ctrl+F search "fantasia") thats japanese name of artist
https://soundcloud.com/ujico/bof2013-x-n soundcloud of artist, provides english translation (Ujico+CLONE)
turns out i should've done some checking before getting this pushed lol

[standard]
  1. 00:38:721 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - is there a reason why these change from 1.0x spacing to 0.9x? music isn't doing anything fancy so spacing decrease seems just weird - oh i was just being retarded
  2. 01:20:011 (1) - headwhistle; consistency with 01:14:850 (1) - normal-hitfinish30 is basically that one whistle here
[special]sliderbreaks:(
  1. 02:25:494 (1,2,1,1) - is there a reason why hitsound volumes are higher than other diffs? especially weird the last slider which you made louder whereas other diffs you made softer -oops
so the only thing im really concerned with is kenterz's diff, which id want to be improved before a bub. if there's anything that doesnt make sense i'll try explaining better
thanks for mod!
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