bomber34 wrote:

I still don't understand why there is shouldn't be a "mod" like this when the mod itself would be
A) totally optional
B) reducing score so much, nobody would play it for getting a good rank or being completly unranked at all.

If people enjoy the map more with just one speed instead of changes then why shouldn't they be allowed to do so?
It would still be something "optiional" like any other mod.


On the other hand you can always blame the modding process for bad speed changes (mode-specific) or old super BPM changing maps that are most likely auto converted.
But still: why is something that would be totally optional a bad thing?

Chamelo_Th wrote:

My beatmap also contain SV changes, where it enchants playing experience and make my map a lot more beautiful.
I see no reason this should be implemented.

Chamelo_Th wrote:

It's like standard player must adapt with the distance snap change tho.

bomber34 wrote:

99% of taiko player probably believe there is a must to have hitting different keys for blue and red hits ... there is still relax mod to just use one key for all (and that is unranked, nobody complains)

bomber34 wrote:

well some people believe their SB (which they create for the map extra ...) enchants the experience and makes it a lot more beautiful
Visual Settings --> disable SB

well hitsounds are a must in every game mode and a lot of people think it enchants the playing experience and makes the song a lot more beautiful but people still can play without it by setting effect volume to 0% in sound options

99% of taiko player probably believe there is a must to have hitting different keys for blue and red hits ... there is still relax mod to just use one key for all (and that is unranked, nobody complains)

You can either use relax to not click in standard (which could be argued as bad since the slogan of the game is: rhythm is just a click away)

there is Auto Pilot ... which moves the cursor for you (unranked mod)

overall osu! is great, because it allows a lot of options to play the game in a way you prefer even if more than 50% of players will never use it

- if it is that terrible of a mod in regards for competetive play: go unrank for it

Redon wrote:

-Kamikaze- wrote:

wat, Are you actually saying that all o2jam maps are bad? Well made SV changes are hell of a fun (DJPop's Smoooch for example) just learn to play them.

I wasn't calling any maps bad. What I'm saying is that even when used sensibly, scrolling speed changes add very little or nothing to the quality of a map - They'd be just as fun without them. Considering that, I really don't think that little luxury is worth the SV horror we currently put up with especially on auto converts.

In my personal opinion, both mappers and the game should keep their hands off scrolling speeds and approach rates, and let the user configure it based on preference. You know, instead of having to stick a piece of paper over half my taiko screen.

It evens the odds for all and makes the game more fun.

Redon wrote:

Wouldn't the way you put it make it a very subjective matter? I enjoyed that map you mentioned, especially the way the hit sounding was done, but I personally thought the SV changes were awful. I do not think they were fun.

As a player, I don't want to be left wondering if my game just had a hiccup, or if that was the mapper trying to be creative with extreme SV changes. Although I don't understand how you could enjoy that, I can respect that you do, and in the same spirit I don't think it's a good idea to force it on people who find it extremely unintuitive and irritating.

Ryu Sei wrote:

I've seen similar thread like this...
But well, SV change is a part of o!m gameplay. Unranked mod IMO.
Also, why not a mod like.... constant speed, that ignores entirely SV and BPM change (as seen in StepMania)?

baraatje123 wrote:

Yep. I both requested a mod to stop the Sv changes from bpm changes, but also reqyested sv changes to be visible

xelivous wrote:

leaf - i is mapped for standard, and is an autoconvert
you're trying to get a mod made for a mode using a map made for another mode as an example

if a mania-specific map has a problem with terrible SV changes it's a problem with the ranking criteria for mania maps allowing extremely bad SV changes to get through. so there's really no reason for this mod tbh.

Ryu Sei wrote:

Consider merging this thread to t/192110

baraatje123 wrote:

What?
What on earth do you mean?

Ryu Sei wrote:

For mods.... how about Split-scroll mod as seen in StepMania? Make it as Split-A and Split-B, when...
Player uses Split-A have their buttons splitted and different scroll direction.
and using Split-B ignore these words :/
makes the scroll speed on L and R side different (make the scroll speed is modifyable).

baraatje123 wrote:

Ryu, that would be nigh impossible to play, if I understand you correctly