Hanatan - Jishou Mushoku · forum

Natteke desu

Joined August 2012

Natteke desu 2014-07-11T00:51:11+00:00

Thanks for mods guys

Mao wrote:
EvilElvis
00:10:327 (4,1) - The gap here feels a bit weird since these two notes are kinda connected by the instrument's hold. I'd rather go for a 2/3-Slider here to cover that hold and also make the tick at 00:10:660 - unclickable since the sound isn't that strong.done
Screenshot
~~pls Kiiwa i have fixed this years ago why u don't updating mah diff~~
00:20:827 - The break should start here since the hold of the instrument justg leads in the break but doesn't really start it so it would be a neat effect to drag it to the downbeat like this.
00:24:827 (1) - This Slider feels out of place considering that all your other wave/S-Sliders are just made with 4 Anchorpoints instead of 6 as in this case. Please consider to make this the same way as your other Sliders of this kind since here's no special emphasis needed which makes this feel really weird.
00:32:326 (4,1) - The between these notes feels really weird since there's a pretty strong note in terms of vocals as well as drums ignored at 00:32:660 - . This note should be mapped fro emphasis since it "introduces" the downbeat here so consider adding a Circle. Same goes for 00:36:660 - as well. If you apply one of this you have to apply the other one as well for the sake of consistency. okay
00:41:327 (1) - Perhaps you can move this to 10|85 to 1. get a more "O"-like shape with 00:41:827 (2) - which would also improve the flow due to a more fluent circular movment and 2. avoid it touching 00:40:827 (1) - since you avoid such overlaps in most cases. here too
00:49:327 (1,2) - Probably it's just me but moving this a bit to the lower left would improve the flow here a lot since you would give the player a lot more range to move downwards and to prepare for the turn provided by the Slider's track.same
Screenshot
01:00:160 (4) - /Minor/ - Maybe you can move this to 285|60 to get an equal triange with (3)'s tail and (2)'s head? That would tidy the pattern up a bit imo (: why not
01:17:660 (3) - /Highly Suggested/ - Meh, the jump to (4) should be bigger since this emphasis is stronger on this beat which makes this jump feel so unintuitive. CTRL+G'ing 01:17:327 (2) - would actually flow really nice here. ~~pls Kiiwa i have fixed this years ago why u don't updating mah diff~~
01:20:160 (1,2,3,4) - Am I totally wrong or is this almost the same as 01:12:327 (1,1,1) - ? Due to that and the DS increase I'd suggest you to add the NCs here as well.forgot about it
Awesome Elvis <3

Also fixed all from Anre's mod

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osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: hannnn.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: -1
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 10327
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 3
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Jishou Mushoku
TitleUnicode:自傷無色
Artist:Hanatan
ArtistUnicode:花たん
Creator:Kiiwa
Version:EvilElvis' Hard
Source:
Tags:Irreversible EvilElvis cut nekobolo ねこぼーろ Utaite Hatsune Miku Vocaloid Self-Inflicted Achromatic
BeatmapID:410359
BeatmapSetID:167000

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.72
SliderTickRate:1

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262,357,88827,5,4,0:0:0:0:

PLEASE

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2014-07-13T00:56:04+00:00

i'll apply stuff tomorrow.. for some reason all applies are gone. lol #blameirre

Kiiwa

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Kiiwa 2014-07-13T01:42:57+00:00

Update :3

Scorpiour

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Scorpiour 2014-07-13T02:24:31+00:00

wait for irre's reply

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2014-07-13T12:13:43+00:00

Mao wrote:
Irreversible
00:08:118 (1,2) - Irre, please. Warum sind die da? Ich meine, sie sind ja in der Musik aber das kommt total überraschend, vor allem, wenns mans das erste mal spielt ;w; That's in the song, I don't see why I'm not allowed to map this.
00:19:827 (3) - Nichts, was du hier machen musst, da das ja der Teil vom Pattern mit den vorherigen Slidern ist, aber ich fänds wirklich besser readable mit ner NC, wegen SV-change. I don't want to add NC here, because it'd feel really spammed at that moment, the patterns are not too outstanding so they'd be justified, imo.
00:26:660 (5,1) - Der Übergang zwischen den Slider spielt sich recht unflüssig hier imo, weil man eigentlich entweder ne Bewegung über (5) nach oben oder nach unten erwartet. CTRL+H;J würde sich hier viel besser spielen. fixed
Screenshot
00:33:827 (3) - Schieb den mal ein Stück nach links, um den Flow von der (2) hier in die (3) zu verbessern, weil die Kurven ineinander übergehen und somit der stark gebogene besser zu aimen und zu folgen ist. fixed
00:56:160 (2) - Ich weiß nicht, ich find den Circle heir total unnötig, weil da einfach nichts ist und er sich unpassend anhört. I think it's supporting the rhythm quite well, but we'll see what happens with it. Waiting for more opinions.
01:00:493 - Die Stelle hört sich total leer an. Bitte, bitte platzier hier nen Circle ;w; Ich finds einfach intuitiv wegen den Drums :/ I like the way the rhythm jumps here, adding another circle would destroy the feeling for me.
01:04:826 - Du hast hier gefailt, zwei Timingpoints auf einmal, mit unterschiedlichen Volumen. Das hört sich mal laut, mal leise an. Bitte fix das =w= fixed
Screenshot
01:28:327 (7) - Nah, ich finde der hört sich an der Stelle total doof an, wegen den komischen Slidertick hitsounds die da nen Sound machen, wo eigentlich nichtmal was ist. Ich fänds so viel besser. Fixed in another way.
01:28:827 - Wo ist denn der Kiai-Fountain hin? Bitte mach den hier wieder hin, damits consistent mit den anderen diffs ist.
Ich bin kein besonders guter Freund von dem 20% Vol. zeugs weil ichs recht unpassend finde, vor allem für Noten wie 01:28:827 (1) - , die die Betonung irgendwie brauchen. Da ist doch mehr als 20% drin :< Fixed
Hab dir ja schon Feedback ingame gegeben, wirklich coole Diff <3 Sehr schöne Patterns thanks!

AnreFM wrote:
[Irre's]
00:33:827 (3) - hmm this slider is a bit awkward to play imo, it is the only one that uses a pause on a mid-section, unlike the other ones where you put the pause on the end of the vocal section (like 00:32:493 - for example). If you want to make a pause here, it would play better if you ended it with a click imo owo So yeah, consider adding another circle at 00:34:493 - or you can keep the pause and arrange the rhythm at 00:34:660 (4) -, though I would prefer the former since the shape of 00:34:660 (4) - is really nice to be changed :3 ~~Uhm.. well I really like how it expresses the mood there, I mean the other section is basically the same except that it's clicked, right? But you're probably right about the consistency.. hmm.~~ fixed
01:03:327 (1) - Eh I think this slider is a bit too far from 01:02:827 (1) - to be a Hard imo x_x The flow is also the exact opposite of the natural flow which makes the play a bit uncomfotable :'< So yeah, I think it would be more appropriate to just ctrl g this one imo :'D It would make it more playable and less surprising for players
Suggestion
fixed!
01:11:993 - I think it would be better if you fill this gap here. The vocal may have stopped, but I was expecting more circles here since it will leads to the next kiai, I even expect jumps to be here lol. So yeah, consider adding a circle here to make the play more fun :b You can try stacking it with (1) to make a divided jumpy pattern, the jump may get a bit high, but being a kiai lead in, it should be that way~ but the song is calm there, why would I add jumps?
01:28:160 (6,7) - uhh Irre this spacing is just really big annd the flow to the 01:28:327 (7) - isn't exactly nice ;w; Consider moving them closer! okay
01:26:827 (1,2,3) - Consider making these two blanket each other? Currently (1) looked like an off blanket e.e If not, you can just make (1) a straight slider~ yes sure
whee Irre! The map is fun and all but I think a few parts are a bit unfitting to be a Hard(was this an Insane before?) x_x Though aside from that it was pretty fun to play with the jumpy patterns o3ob Consider renaming this to Irre's Special Hard? xD Well.. let's just keep hard? hahaha xD I'll try to lower the difficulty a bit tho~

Thanks!

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Scorpiour

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Scorpiour 2014-07-20T12:34:53+00:00

Hi there~~

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions

[General]

Use AiMod to check out your missing osb files and inconsistent tags & artistunicode plz. Plus, there are multiple osb files in the folder
SPOILER

[Insane]

The normal-slidertick sample is heard odd...i'm sure it is overused
Also i suppose the volume of normal-hitnormal need to be considered
00:31:660 - could be a note here
00:37:827 (1) - maybe two 2/3 sliders are better?
00:48:493 (2,4) - swap?
01:08:827 (1,2) - not a good flow

[EvilElvis' Hard]

00:24:827 (1,2) - i think here should be two 2/3 sliders
00:28:827 (1,2) - ^
00:28:660 - could be a note here
00:32:827 (2,3) - also two 2/3 sliders is better
00:36:660 (1) - use same overlap like 00:37:660 (3) - ?

Seriously, i think this diff should be called as Insane but not Hard

[Irreversible's Hard]

01:03:327 (2,1,2) - ctrl+g separately?
01:07:327 (2) - ^

[Hard]

00:58:327 (3) - no overlap plz
01:14:327 (3) - ^
01:23:827 (1) - weird finish

This diff is something between Hard & Normal....After look through your Normal, i suppose you can rename this diff to Normal, and remove old Normal diff.

That's all, give me a call when you're ready.

Natteke desu

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Natteke desu 2014-07-20T13:01:46+00:00

All fixed \o/

H.O.

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Irreversible

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Irreversible 2014-07-20T13:49:22+00:00

Irreversible

osu file format v13

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Title:Jishou Mushoku
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Creator:Kiiwa
Version:Irreversible's Hard
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172,184,71327,2,0,L|324:224,1,139.893327569906,2|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,160,71827,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,344,72160,5,4,2:0:0:0:
256,344,72327,2,0,L|176:320,1,69.9466637849529,2|4,0:3|0:2,0:0:0:0:
88,292,72660,1,2,0:2:0:0:
20,112,72827,22,0,L|168:156,1,139.893327569906,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,124,73327,2,0,B|300:32|300:32|248:48,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
263,43,73827,2,0,L|398:83,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,156,74327,2,0,P|480:236|448:296,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,360,74827,6,0,P|324:376|328:304,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,224,75327,2,0,P|344:162|276:160,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,196,75827,2,0,P|132:176|120:88,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,116,76327,1,8,0:2:0:0:
140,344,76660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,344,76827,38,0,L|288:328,1,139.893327569906,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,224,77327,2,0,L|208:239,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,152,77827,2,0,P|121:70|165:40,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
275,88,78327,2,0,P|193:83|163:39,1,139.893327569906,8|2,0:2|0:2,0:0:0:0:
376,48,78827,6,0,L|396:192,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,276,79327,2,0,P|436:272|480:212,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,356,79827,2,0,P|256:328|152:368,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,344,80327,2,0,P|68:272|100:200,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,44,80827,38,0,P|364:104|328:188,1,139.893327569906,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,170,81327,2,0,L|189:186,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
44,204,81827,2,0,P|12:264|48:348,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
30,330,82327,2,0,L|186:346,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,352,82827,6,8,P|376:276|364:196,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:2:0:0:
152,128,83327,2,0,P|174:210|249:240,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,76,83827,2,0,P|346:54|283:104,1,139.893327569906,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,336,84327,6,0,L|344:228,1,86.0000032806398,4|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,184,84827,22,0,L|312:372,1,151.359999538086,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,280,85327,2,0,P|112:268|68:320,1,151.359999538086,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,196,85827,2,0,P|66:118|43:54,1,151.359999538086,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,72,86327,2,0,P|205:161|272:173,1,151.359999538086,8|0,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,80,86827,5,0,0:0:0:0:
151,347,87160,2,0,L|128:232,1,75.679999769043,0|0,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
364,202,87827,1,8,0:0:0:0:
100,87,88160,2,0,L|192:68,1,75.679999769043,0|2,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
300,344,88827,37,4,0:0:0:0:

i also fixed everything

Kiiwa

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Kiiwa 2014-07-20T13:55:23+00:00

Thanks, updated

Scorpiour

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Scorpiour 2014-07-24T07:24:33+00:00

Bubbled~~!!

kanpakyin

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kanpakyin 2014-07-31T21:10:21+00:00

Offset is obviously wrong. It should be 804 ~ 807

pop for now.

Kiiwa

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Topic Starter

Kiiwa 2014-07-31T22:07:51+00:00

Update~

Xiaolin

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Xiaolin 2014-08-01T11:37:54+00:00

Now bubble

Last edited by Xiaolin 2014-08-02T11:53:29+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

kanpakyin

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kanpakyin 2014-08-01T17:36:22+00:00

Rebubbled.

(ノ・ω・)ノ

Xiaolin

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Xiaolin 2014-08-02T11:53:41+00:00

Lapis Aoki wrote:
Now rank

Akiyama Mizuki

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Akiyama Mizuki 2014-08-03T05:45:56+00:00

Lapis Aoki wrote:
Lapis Aoki wrote:
Rank right now.

Beige

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Beige 2014-08-03T16:13:16+00:00

yes, Hanatan!

Rank right now!

Xiaolin

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Xiaolin 2014-08-07T13:45:29+00:00

W h i t e wrote:
yes, Hanatan!

Rank right now or you're dead!

Aka

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Aka 2014-08-09T01:50:35+00:00

yes please

Kenezz

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Kenezz 2014-08-10T05:13:31+00:00

Kiiwa o3o

[General]

Since you don't have a sb be sure to disable widescreen support in all diffs.
Volcaloid & Hatsune Miku in the tags is really necessary? I mean, where's hatsune miku in this map/song?

[Normal]

00:08:807 (1,2,1,2) - Try to move all these notes slightly up, now the last slider is almost touching the bottom of the screen.

[Irreversible's Hard]

AiBat said: http://puu.sh/aM5D2/e44dab21b6.png
00:08:098 (1,2) - These sliders also sound really off with playback rate 25%, I think is better if you place the sliders on the 1/16 snap divisor in this manner:
SPOILER
```
132,228,8119,38,0,L|96:224,1,32.25,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,172,8307,2,0,P|70:155|108:152,2,57.3333333333333,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
```
With this way the sliders fits better with the track.

[EvilElvis' Insane]

01:28:807 (1) - imo the default soft or normal finish fits better here, just like the other diffs.

[Insane]

01:11:973 (2,3) - How about Ctrl+Ging these circles? I like how the circles create a gradient of jumps o3o.
01:27:307 (2) - Maybe remove the finish at the start? imo is a bit loud.

Such a great job, I love your diffs <3
Let me know when you have applied the mod.

Kiiwa

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Kiiwa 2014-08-10T05:28:19+00:00

~ XD thanks for mod~

Kenezz wrote:
Kiiwa o3o

[General]
Since you don't have a sb be sure to disable widescreen support in all diffs. ok done.
Volcaloid & Hatsune Miku in the tags is really necessary? I mean, where's hatsune miku in this map/song? It's there because this song is originally a vocaloid song sung by Miku.
[Normal]
00:08:807 (1,2,1,2) - Try to move all these notes slightly up, now the last slider is almost touching the bottom of the screen. sure, done.
[Irreversible's Hard]
AiBat said: http://puu.sh/aM5D2/e44dab21b6.png
00:08:098 (1,2) - These sliders also sound really off with playback rate 25%, I think is better if you place the sliders on the 1/16 snap divisor in this manner: well, i fixed it for irre~
SPOILER
132,228,8119,38,0,L|96:224,1,32.25,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,172,8307,2,0,P|70:155|108:152,2,57.3333333333333,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
With this way the sliders fits better with the track.
[EvilElvis' Insane]
01:28:807 (1) - imo the default soft or normal finish fits better here, just like the other diffs. EE wants it like this, so no change.
[Insane]
01:11:973 (2,3) - How about Ctrl+Ging these circles? I like how the circles create a gradient of jumps o3o. OKAY, i changed the order a little~
01:27:307 (2) - Maybe remove the finish at the start? imo is a bit loud. OK, thanks
Such a great job, I love your diffs <3
Let me know when you have applied the mod.