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Patatitta
So I created a theory with 0 evidence supporting it and I wanted people to get it so I made images instead of your usual pure text dump so that everyone's, regardless of attention spam can read the post

So normally, when we talk about stuff, we just say "Oh I enjoy movies", the regular person and the definition will just understand this as you just enjoy the medium, so in this image, you enjoy the bubble called "movies"



however, a human cant enjoy all the movies, that's why we categorize movies by genre and the such, movies can have multiple gneres and stuff, but yeah you get the point. Someone who enjoys things in a certain bubble is probably going to be less interested in other bubbles



but, a lot of time this does't really help either. Sometimes you will hear someone complaining about a certain piece of media, and then you recommend an alternative or whatever, and they kinda just dont even consider it. This mainly happens on stuff with big fandoms, since they aren't interested in the wider market, they're interested in their fandom. This fandom can have multiple medium types, so games, movies, books, etc

In this scenario, a pokemon fan may enjoy the main games, anime, and spinoffs, but that doesn't mean that a pokemon fan is necessarily a fan of anime even if they have enjoyed anime in the past. They're part of a bubble that contains RPG's but they're not part of an RPG bubble, meaning, if you were to recommend a pokemon fan another RPG, it's like recommending a horror movie to someone who mainly watches romance.



However, fandoms have overlap, and this is the final point I wanted to get at. A pokemon fan is more likely to get interested splatoon than chained echoes, even if chained echoes is closer to pokemon, IMO this happens due to how fandom influences someones enjoyement of a certain piece of media, for better or for worse. If you have another piece of media directed torward the same exact demographic, there is bound to be more overlap than a product that is not

In this example, there is a lot of overlap between all of these fandoms, yet, you cant really claim that there is any overlap between someone who would enjoy digital circus and the wider horror market. A fan of digital circus isn't usually fan of dead space



The thing is, I feel that a lot of the time, people that are in one of those bigger fandom bubbles are isolated from anything else really, so they have their own standards and vocabulary. Which are widely different than the standards for anything else. For me, I dislike when games bait youtube video, like many in that sphere do with matpat, however, a lot of people in that community does. Not only that, but normally in communication, someone who likes dead space and someone who likes amazing digital circus would both say they're horror fans, yet they couldn't be any different. Which leads to many internet disscusions that could be solved very easily

I think it's still fine to call yourself a horror fan if you're in any bubble regarding horror, at the end of the day, no bubble is better than the other. But I feel it would be nice if whenever you get yourself in a disscussion or a conversation where recommendations are being thrown around


so, a while ago I read "your threads just contain information that people cant really post stuff about", which is false since I do include questions, so, in order to make this thread hopefully not die since I think it's an interesting topic, I will make this text big and red



So, what bubbles are you in?, what does your favourite franchise fandom overlap with?
Karmine
I'm not a huge fan of anything, I like a lot of different things
There's a big overlap between cars and planes, aside from that I'm not really aware of any overlap between things I like
Winnyace
Interesting theory. I do agree with it, but I personally believe that few truly interact with a fandom, however. Most people try games, movies, TV shows, etc. based on what others around them watched/played/listened, etc. It depends a lot on the individual and how invested they are in the media they consume.

I guess the bubbles I'm in are the tech, video game and Japanese culture overall bubble. Specific bubbles include the Linux fandom, the Valve fandom, the PC building fandom and the anime fandom.
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Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

Interesting theory. I do agree with it, but I personally believe that few truly interact with a fandom, however. Most people try games, movies, TV shows, etc. based on what others around them watched/played/listened, etc. It depends a lot on the individual and how invested they were in the media they consume.

I guess the bubbles I'm in are the tech, video game and Japanese culture overall bubble. Specific bubbles include the Linux fandom, the Valve fandom, the PC building fandom and the anime fandom.
yeah, thinking about it, you don't really need to interact with the communtiy itself, however, if you do enjoy something, and you get recommendations from someone else who also enjoy that something, that recommendations are most likely than not still be in the bubble
Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

yeah, thinking about it, you don't really need to interact with the communtiy itself, however, if you do enjoy something, and you get recommendations from someone else who also enjoy that something, that recommendations are most likely than not still be in the bubble
Yes. I think bubbles are related to each other by connections IRL to the piece of media the fandom focuses on or to similar pieces of media to the original. For example, a Pokemon fan might very well be a fan of other Nintendo games because every Pokemon game was released by them and only appeared on Nintendo consoles officially, at least to my knowledge. If you like Counter-Strike, there's a high chance you would like other Valve games, etc.
Reyalp51
not really a theory, i think this is a fact, us who have grow on the internet sice we were kids know how fandoms work
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Patatitta

Reyalp51 wrote:

not really a theory, i think this is a fact, us who have grow on the internet sice we were kids know how fandoms work
I have grown on the internet, but I think it's more respectful to call this a theory since I don't really have strong evidence torwards it than a actual proven fact. My point is that people claim to enjoy the same things while they dont, and that can be a little hard to say without sounding "oh you dont enjoy REAL movies"
Jarcrafted
Did osu and vocaloid overlap cuz it's how I got into it
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Patatitta

Jarcrafted wrote:

Did osu and vocaloid overlap cuz it's how I got into it
yeah that connection is pretty clear IMO, honestly the overlaps is something you probably can map but too lazy rn
Corne2Plum3
idk if I know any overlaps...
Kobold84
There's an overlap between jrpgs and excel. /s

This will be an oddly specific overlap talk, but I love denpa, I really love denpa. It's a music genre with a lot of nuance and some fans of denpa won't even call it a "music genre" and there's an endless question of "what is denpa", but I won't go into too much details.

Denpa was a major part of the 2000s otaku culture, so naturally it overlaps with 1) doujin music — a lot of denpa artists distrubute their songs during doujin events, such as comiket or M3; 2) visual novels — VNs in general are very prone to be otaku-related, some openings from that time were unmistakenly; 3) anime — now that should be obvious, however it wasn't as prominent in anime due to it being more mainstream, so only some anime titles got their share of denpa music and it was mostly moe songs rather than "true denpa" songs, but there are a few staple examples; 4) rhythm games — rhythm games overlap a lot with doujin music in general, but you see denpa artists in otoge by konami, you see artists there such as Prim and Nanahira, and for BMS music there's Rish and Nekomirin to name a few examples; 5) touhou — IOSYS, innocent key and other touhou circles are, well, mostly doujin and they've made incredibly influential denpa; 6) vocaloid — some denpa artists use (or used) vocaloids for obvious reasons (hard to find a real singer who can nail what you have in mind), you probably didn't know but Kikuo used to do denpa on the side; 7) idols — now that's a bit of a stretch, but idols are a huge part of the otaku culture and there's clearly an overlap in fans, it's not as closely tied as other things I mentioned, however there're a few idol bands who were clearly influenced by denpa, Denpagumi.inc as an example.

Good thing there are no denpa fans lurking OT and nobody will call me out on improper generalizations I just made.
Offdensen
mine is technically fucking everywhere.
I used to be big on hetalia so that would be considered fanservice anime (?).
Now im big into metalocalypse so it would be adult comedy/dark comedy category.
z0z
idk
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