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Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Kinda crazy no-one's requested Evangelion yet, so I'll request it now

(For the 0.0001% chance you haven't watched it, watch the series "Neon Genesis Evangelion" first, then the movie "The End Of Evangelion")

My guess for your rating is B, and here's my thought process:

I feel like Evangelion moreso than a lot of other pieces of media/art generates a lot of different opinions, so honestly I wouldn't be surprised you giving it literally any tier except maybe "How could you ever do this to me".

I think one of the biggest reasons for this is that it feels like a very "holey" piece of art, like you can very easily poke a lot of holes in it and criticize and dislike many different aspects, and I feel like you'd be the type of guy to jump at these holes.

Next is that idk you don't seem very depressed? Internet armchair psychoanalysis right in front of the person in question's face aside, I feel like the enjoyment of Evangelion mostly hinges on the fact that it's about depression and other related negative emotions, and a person's response to what the anime is trying to say is going to be a major factor in how much they liked it. Not saying you need to be depressed to feel like the depression stuff is cool, but there's probably a correlation because it's easier to sympathise with the content of the anime the more you've experienced it yourself.

I feel like it won't be a super low rating though, like you seem to really appreciate the finer artistry in things, like how you can go off about a single page in Land of the Lustrous or Witch Hat Atelier, and I'm guessing this stuff is going to be a positive unless you really hate everything else to the point that this artistry isn't appreciable instead of just finding it just mid or vaguely interesting. When I was watching it I specifically remember there being a lot of cool shots and imagery, and that was a big part of my enjoyment of this series, but also that might've just been me trying to engage with this show a bit more than other anime because apparently this was supposed to be an epic big brain anime or something.

And in the end you seem to be the type of guy to go against popular opinion on a fair amount of things, and like the least hot hot take about anime in terms of how much it's said is that Evangelion is mid.

So my guess is B

Surely S tier though 🙏, I love Evangelion
i've seen it, I have a lot of opinions about it, but it's not because of what you've written
Rezq Gokou
I was just joking about Oreimo. Rate Yakuza 0 or if you can't because too long rate A Space for the Unbound
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Anohana:

It's a pretty sad and emotional anime about a group of friends who see the ghost out of someone who used to be part of the group of friends, I enjoyed it

I'm a little bit blurry on it since I watched it quite some time ago, but, while it generally doesn't do anything too groundbreaking, it is very much enjoyable, not the most emotional, but it does kinda get to you

A thing I like about this anime compared to the other animes and games that have come out since then which are also about copign with the death of someone is that no one in anohana is really an asshole?, like, yes, they're affected by it, but it's clear that everyone has almost moved on, there are still underground, subconcious damage which is what the anime is focused on, buit it's not like you would see in omori of the changes being radical

A thing that anohana also has that other animes of this type really do is that focus on social relationship and if well, they actually trust the protagonist on that they ahve seen the ghost, because there are characters in this movie that will choose to act like they believe the protagonist even if they don't just to try to help them, and I think the exploration of that is neat

outside that, yeah, nothing anohana does is something I haven't already talked about in this thread

still pretty good

edit: honestly i've been thinking around it more, and I think it's also important that the character that dies or whatever is moe, because if it isn't moe and it's instead kind of an lovable asshole it just doesn't hit the same

placed on A rank

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Evangelion

Evangelion is a good anime, let's get that out first, however, there are certain things that I'm slightly mad about

First of all, evangelion, the original 24 episode anime is FULLY a mecha anime, it's not like "oh they subvert your thoughts about mechas" no the fuck that doesn't happen, original evangelion is big robots battling weird space things, and there is nothing wrong with that, while I don't think action is the most exciting, the characters have solid writing and I think the small moments of comedy go a long way

thing is, the last 4 chapters or so are a total mess?, they kinda completely change the focus of the anime and go deep into very psychological abstract storytelling which is something that while it is very popular today, it wasn't as popular back in the day, problem is that the ending was VERY unsatisfactory, it didn't really resolve the plotlines it had in a meaningful way, the animation quality suffered due to low budget, it was by all means a pretty bad ending, it was a badly done genre switch

you may see "oh well there were actually a bit of foreshadowing indicating that the anime was going to go that direction", this is missing the point. Let's say you were a mecha anime fan, you love gundam, you've even seen the previous anime of hideaki anno, gunbusters, and they make a new mecha anime, and you watch it expecting well a mecha anime, and under that context, under that lenses, there is no forshadowing, as that foreshadowing only exists if you're seeing it under a psychological anime lens

but let's say you were going to watch it as a psychological anime, now you have to basically watch 20 episodes of a mecha anime that you just don't really care about

after the release of evangelion, hideaki anno reportedly saw the ending again, and actually went "oh wait shit this doesn't work", and made the movie the end of evangelion to try to fix it

the end of evangelion is fine, I enjoyed it, it just really expands the ending with some pretty good cinematography and makes it actually easy to understand to general audiences, the movie was a success, people were happy with it, but evangelion still wasn't the best anime it could be, because while yes, that ending was fairly good and strong, the anime suffered from having 20 episodes of mechas fighting

Thing is, today, original evangelion has a reputation that I would go as far to say as it's undeserved. Currently the way evangelion is seen is "oh you're not smart enough to understand the end of evangelion", a lot of the fame evangelion has, (at least in spanish/speaking internet) it's that it's a extremely complex deeply psychological anime that subvers the mecha genre to do some wack stuff and it's also like extremely difficult to understasnd and not something normies would get

this is nowhere close to reality, evangelion isn't nearly that deep or hard to understand, but it has become the face of an entire part of the anime industry and that is something that we have to live with

Thing is, there is a reason why i'm calling it original evangelion, and that is, because the rebuild movies exist

a complete reimagination of evangelion that fixes the original series by actually managing your expectations properly and having the start and the end actually connect. Yes, the third movie is kinda bad, but i'm sorry, rebuild is just the best form of evangelion full stop, 4.0 is WAY better than the end evangelion

yet, you barely see any discussion of rebuild compared to discussion of the original anime, even you requested the original anime instead of the directly superior version, and that is, because the rebuild movies after the release of 4.0 don't really have that same reputation?

4.0 is a really easy movie to understand. It's still clearly has that mecha anime ADN but the psychological elements are introduced in way less dissonant way with way better animation and an ending that is WAY better IMO.

It's just, for a psychological anime, I think the discussions surrounding it are very superficial, at least for the original anime, it's like lain, the discussions surrounding lain are never about well, what the anime actually has to say but more the aesthetics and culture surrounding that anime

thing is, evangelion isn't even the best thing hideaki anno has done. He has other movies and animes (wow shocking I know), and like, ritual is better than original evangelion and I think it's around equal to 4.0 and that movie also has shinji iwai as one of the protagonists and honestly I don't think he was even acting he is just like that

Placed rebuild in A rank, placed original/end of evangelion in B rank.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Rezq Gokou wrote:

I was just joking about Oreimo. Rate Yakuza 0 or if you can't because too long rate A Space for the Unbound
already did a space for the unbound, check in the main thread, for yakuza 0, I will do later as I have already beaten that game (alon with the rest of the yakuza franchise with the exception of infinite wealth and some spinoffs like ishin or lost judgement)
Topic Starter
Patatitta
actually doing it now because if not then I would have to update the tierlist twice and I feel more lazy thinking about having to open photoshop twice than taking more time of my day rn

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Yakuza 0

banger game and a banger franchise

Yakuza 0 is the second best yakuza game, and one of the three yakuza games I would consider to be peak (Like a dragon > zero > the man who erased his name)

Yakuza is a dated franchise, kiwami 1 and 2 aren't the best feeling games and 3-4 are kinda painful to play, what yakuza 0 offered is a way better entrypoint to the franchise and also to expand the franchise to the west

The gameplay of yakuza 0 isn't the most special, it has some pretty nice beat em up combat that works and it's fun, but it's neither the focus or what it does best, instead, yakuza 0 has two banger elements, and that is the story, and the minigames.

Generally, every yakuza game has a banger plot, it's the franchise strongest point, majime and kiryu are just fucking amazing, they're just really nice individuals placed in really awful situations that really humanizes them, the cinematics are fucking incredible and it's just amazing from start to end, probably my favourite gangster story even above things like the godfather

and now, the minigames. A lot of open world games have minigames, but honestly in most games they just feel like filler, a way to maybe pad the runtime or make the game feel bigger, like even in gta, the minigames are pretty basic and boring, however the minigames in yakuza are all sick as fuck. They have a lot more love put into it than any other game and they're often so over the top that you just want to keep advanding in the minigames see what happens

also, later in the franchise, the minigames start actually giving real gameplay advantages so it's even more encouraged to play it

on a similar note you have the sidequests, while the main plot is very grim, the sidequests, just like the mingames are very silly and honestly just comedy pieces, and as i've said in the past, we need more comedy in videogames

so yeah, A rank.
DM FOR MUTUAL
damn I guessed both ratings correctly

Yeah evangelion goes off the rails in the end and it is a common criticism of eva. Although personally those episodes were something I really enjoyed. It's not conventional, they were meant to be more normal, but through the limitations of what was going on irl, they were able to birth really interesting and powerful art from it. A lot of my enjoyment came from the fact that it's so messy, the messyness makes it feel so raw and makes everything feel as fucked up as the characters are feeling. I'd go as far to say the last two episodes are my two favourite episodes even though they are literally just a slideshow with the type of philosophical self-introspection you do while pacing around in your room at 2 in the morning.

Wrote a whole paragraph here but I realised I was just agreeing with you so I deleted it

Haven't watched the rebuild movies but I really want to so I didn't read what you said about the rebuild movies
Topic Starter
Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

damn I guessed both ratings correctly

Yeah evangelion goes off the rails in the end and it is a common criticism of eva. Although personally those episodes were something I really enjoyed. It's not conventional, they were meant to be more normal, but through the limitations of what was going on irl, they were able to birth really interesting and powerful art from it. A lot of my enjoyment came from the fact that it's so messy, the messyness makes it feel so raw and makes everything feel as fucked up as the characters are feeling. I'd go as far to say the last two episodes are my two favourite episodes even though they are literally just a slideshow with the type of philosophical self-introspection you do while pacing around in your room at 2 in the morning.

Wrote a whole paragraph here but I realised I was just agreeing with you so I deleted it

Haven't watched the rebuild movies but I really want to so I didn't read what you said about the rebuild movies
idk, I just think that there are way better psychological anime out there and the reputation evangelion has isn't really deseved
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

damn I guessed both ratings correctly

Yeah evangelion goes off the rails in the end and it is a common criticism of eva. Although personally those episodes were something I really enjoyed. It's not conventional, they were meant to be more normal, but through the limitations of what was going on irl, they were able to birth really interesting and powerful art from it. A lot of my enjoyment came from the fact that it's so messy, the messyness makes it feel so raw and makes everything feel as fucked up as the characters are feeling. I'd go as far to say the last two episodes are my two favourite episodes even though they are literally just a slideshow with the type of philosophical self-introspection you do while pacing around in your room at 2 in the morning.

Wrote a whole paragraph here but I realised I was just agreeing with you so I deleted it

Haven't watched the rebuild movies but I really want to so I didn't read what you said about the rebuild movies
idk, I just think that there are way better psychological anime out there and the reputation evangelion has isn't really deseved
I agree with the reputation thing, it feels really overhyped when there's so many people out there that don't think it's the greatest thing ever like you, and yeah it's not that deep or hard to understand, like it's plenty deep but it feels like the deepest thing ever because the deepness is really in-your-face, and the reason it feels hard to understand because it just abandoned being a conventional mecha anime and decided to be as mind-breaky as possible, even though what it's actually trying to say is easy to pick up on with how in-your-face it is. What even is deepness, is it just a piece of art trying to explore profound ideas?
Nuuskamuikkunen
Cipher the Video plz
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
sure
Ymir
Hotline Miami
Jangsoodlor
how tf this thread gets 11k views
Corne2Plum3

Jangsoodlor wrote:

how tf this thread gets 11k views
It's almost every time on the first page for 11 months
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Ymir wrote:

Hotline Miami
i've already beaten it but not the type of game I play for this thread, still good game don't get me wrong
Reyalp51
You know what im doing it im requesting my lesbian experience with lonliness, super quick to read and i want to know what do you think about the first half
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Reyalp51 wrote:

You know what im doing it im requesting my lesbian experience with lonliness, super quick to read and i want to know what do you think about the first half
yeah sure
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
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I have no clue what I just watched

this is an "adaptation" of the 80's shoujo manga cipher except it is not and instead it's like a really long music video (26 mins) with like a 5 minute long typical sitcom intro in the middle before it goes back to fucking kenny loggins

nothing of this made any sense at all, it feels like something you would see as a fan project nowadays, I have no clue what to say about this

placed in D rank
Nuuskamuikkunen

Patatitta wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
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I have no clue what I just watched

this is an "adaptation" of the 80's shoujo manga cipher except it is not and instead it's like a really long music video (26 mins) with like a 5 minute long typical sitcom intro in the middle before it goes back to fucking kenny loggins

nothing of this made any sense at all, it feels like something you would see as a fan project nowadays, I have no clue what to say about this

placed in D rank
Why is it in D.
Why is it so high.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Cipher the Video plz
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I have no clue what I just watched

this is an "adaptation" of the 80's shoujo manga cipher except it is not and instead it's like a really long music video (26 mins) with like a 5 minute long typical sitcom intro in the middle before it goes back to fucking kenny loggins

nothing of this made any sense at all, it feels like something you would see as a fan project nowadays, I have no clue what to say about this

placed in D rank
Why is it in D.
Why is it so high.
idk not painful to watch
Topic Starter
Patatitta
my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
Reyalp51

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
hahaha i see i had the same feeling when i read yomawari sensei and this, glad you apreciated it too
Nyzhenets
Mekakucity Actors (anime)
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nyzhenets wrote:

Mekakucity Actors (anime)
sure
npc_BeaniCraft
Pikmin 1 (game)
Topic Starter
Patatitta

npc_BeaniCraft wrote:

Pikmin 1 (game)
not the type of game I do for this thread
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
Topic Starter
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
the manga yeah
npc_BeaniCraft

Patatitta wrote:

npc_BeaniCraft wrote:

Pikmin 1 (game)
not the type of game I do for this thread
ah, okay
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
the manga yeah
i read it when i was younger so i don't remember anything, just that i liked the story. i would give it an A (maybe an S if i read it again) because the story was good enough to leave a good impression on me, even though i don't remember any details lol. true stories have always fascinated me because they are that, true. for that reason alone they surpass any fiction xd.

when i was a kid i heard a story about a couple who killed people and started selling their meat on the street for people to eat, but this couple hid the meat inside street food so no one would notice, and people liked the taste even though they found it a little strange. when the police arrested this couple and people found out through the newspaper, the city went years without eating street food. after i heard this story the world became more interesting to me because i didn't imagine that these things could happen in real life.

btw, rating true stories is not about criticizing the fact, but how the story was told and how it affected you. if "My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness" was a youtube video, it wouldn't have the same impact on you as a manga.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

my lesbian experience with loneliness

My lesbian experience with loneliness is the true story of a woman with mental illness struggling with life who ends up hiring a lesbian prostitute

I can't really write this in the same way I write everything else on here, this is a true story, I can't say "oh I think whatever of the art" it's just not right, it's a really heavy story, that makes you think, honestly you will probably be a better human being after reading this, it's a really hard and complex topic that you really have to be VERY careful with

I don't know man I think it's good and i'm really thinking hard about shit rn, it's only 1 volume, if anyone is interested please rated

placed in not rated because no way i'm putting this on the tier list
the most interesting ones you don't rate :(
have you read it
the story?
the manga yeah
i read it when i was younger so i don't remember anything, just that i liked the story. i would give it an A (maybe an S if i read it again) because the story was good enough to leave a good impression on me, even though i don't remember any details lol. true stories have always fascinated me because they are that, true. for that reason alone they surpass any fiction xd.

when i was a kid i heard a story about a couple who killed people and started selling their meat on the street for people to eat, but this couple hid the meat inside street food so no one would notice, and people liked the taste even though they found it a little strange. when the police arrested this couple and people found out through the newspaper, the city went years without eating street food. after i heard this story the world became more interesting to me because i didn't imagine that these things could happen in real life.

btw, rating true stories is not about criticizing the fact, but how the story was told and how it affected you. if "My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness" was a youtube video, it wouldn't have the same impact on you as a manga.
I think there is a bit more nuance to it, yes, I agree there are better and worse ways to rate a true story, but given how personal the manga is and how the topics it covers are very delicate and hard to speak about, I just prefeer not to rate it
Jangsoodlor
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Jangsoodlor wrote:

watch Johnny English
sure
abraker
Ergo Proxy
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Ergo Proxy
I watched this I think a week ago

it's ok

ergo proxy is a anime that very much takes direct inspiration from ghost in the shell, however, in modern culture it's often associated more to shows like lain or texhnolyze, in fact, both ergo proxy and ghost in the shell kinda tackle the same topics, the stand alone complex of ghost in the shell is really similar to the proxy in ergo proxy

the idea of ergo proxy is a police/detective mistery story in this really advanced society that is closed to the rest of the world where they're struggling with robot rights and things like that, the topics it tackles are fairly deep, but I don't think they really explore those topics properly, unlike ghost in the shell, ergo proxy is more focused on the mistery itself

The mistery of ergo proxy is slow, this pacing helps you try to piece things in your head while you go, the way ergo proxy is animated also stands out compared to other animes, not because they do anything particullary interesting in the actual animation, but because of the cinematography, again, it being different to the norm gets you thinking

the problem with this is that they don't slowly introduce information, it's not like any sentence could say anything interesting, most of it is presented in big reveals, and during reveal and reveal there isn't really that much going on, I think the most clear example of this are the dream segments, they don't really advance the story forward until the very end where it's revealed to be a dream, it doesn't explore the philosophical topics of the anime, it doesn't really explore the characters either as they often have a different cast, and while they're fun by itself, it kinda just feels like filler, and when you realize that those moments doesn't really matter, a lot of the atmosphere of the anime is lost

it's a fine anime, but it has some flaws and it's completely overshadowed by ghost in the shell which is the exact same but like way better, placed in c tier

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i'm on chapter 6 of Mekakucity Actors, i'm not enjoying it that much but will finish it because I don't necessarily hate it eitehr
Rezq Gokou
troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
reffty_gag

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
ada indonesia coyy, damnn i forgor this game
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
this one right? I can do it
Rezq Gokou

Patatitta wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
this one right? I can do it
yes

reffty_gag wrote:

Rezq Gokou wrote:

troublemaker (game by gamecom team)
ada indonesia coyy, damnn i forgor this game
A sequel incoming
Topic Starter
Patatitta
the game doesn't run, it's giving me a error message each time

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: 0xc06d007e

0x00007ffd4a4cb699 KERNELBASE.dll!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6733af0ae Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff672e6b523 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6706901df Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff67295cf2e Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff672966d00 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff672589933 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fcfd48c Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd04b3d Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd04c7a Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd063c4 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff66fd0f004 Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff6733b04ae Troublemaker-Win64-Shipping.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffd4b877374 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ffd4ca7cc91 ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction []

the game seems to refuse to run and given i've just spent 15 minutes troubleshooting the game while watching tutorials in a language I do not speak I may give up on this

tried the DirectX thing, tried deleting the folder in the appdata, and also did the typical things like compatibility mode and reinstalling and drivers
Rezq Gokou
sadge
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Mekakucity Actors

it's bad

the plot is about stuff I suppose I don't know it's a mess on every single level, first of all, there are way too many main characters, almost none of them are explored, they often don't really feel that different from each other because of that, I honestly kinda faded out in the middle of the anime I just didn't really care

like, usually animes or games have characters that get you interested in the plot, you often keep playing or watching just because you want to see that one character, this anime doesn't have that and the plot really doesn't hold on it's own

The real hook of this anime is the animation and i'm sorry eblf this fucking sucks it doesn't fit the anime at all, there is such a think as overproducing and this anime is just filled with it.

This anime is set on a school, the characters are "normal" high school students just placed in a interesting situation, this is something that most anime in the past have nailed, they're often static environment with not much going on so it's easy to draw and for you to get the idea

however, shaft isn't like that, shaft needs to be more artsy and cool and it just completely messes it up in this anime, because the school doesn't feel like a school, it feels like a vortex of color in the crossroads between time and multiple realities, the land where a divine creature would fall from the heaven to give you a magical orb of inimaginable power that you would later use to defeat the evil titan in a epic universe destroying combat

and it's not that it doesn't feel like a school and that the animation is actively sabotaging the setting, this also translates to the way the characters act and move, the most obvious example is the shaft head twist which kinda makes as character look smug and misterious but they're fucking high school students they don't need to be smug and misterious, it just fucks up the atmosphere

the animation sets this really serious and intense tone when the actual story of the anime is very light for most of the anime so there is a really big discrepancy between the story and the animation

also randomly in the anime they will have some sort of musical segment which I appreciate this anime having a good OST but make the moments where you shut everything up and focus on the song make sense?, there are moments where nothing is really happening and then the song kicks in and it's like what why

placed in D rank

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johnny english

my dad walked in and went "is that johnny english?, I love that movie" and honestly dad you're so right this movie is enjoyable

johnny english is a british comedy movie parody of spy movies like james bond or whatever, the main actor Rowan Atkinson also known as mr bean. In this movie he plays as johnny english, which is basically mr bean, a good for nothing type of person who kinda just fakes it till he makes it in very humoristic ways

johnny english is not the most complex movie, or the most ambitious, it's not something I would really recommend to anyone if they asked me for comedy movies even, but it works, it really does work, there isn't really anything wrong in this movie, it's just some light-hearted comedy fun

the parody aspect is pretty well done, as it's just a regular spy movie but the protagonist is johnny english, and just by having that a lot of the weird parts of spy movies that we would normally ignore kinda shine brighter, which really makes you think

and well, it's just fun, I liked it, placed in B tier, may watch the sequels in the future
Jangsoodlor
glad u enjoy johnny english
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watch oregairu next
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Jangsoodlor wrote:

glad u enjoy johnny english
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watch oregairu next
I guess I can yeah
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

Jangsoodlor wrote:

glad u enjoy johnny english
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watch oregairu next
I guess I can yeah
I'm gonna guess A or B, uhhhh B
abraker
Mars of Destruction
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Mars of Destruction
why
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Mars of Destruction
why
why not


Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Mars of Destruction
why
why not


I guess I could but i'm not very happy about it
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru (oregairu)

I don't get this anime

The plot of onegairu follows this guy who is a social outcast and is forced to join the school "service club", a club for social outcasts to learn how to behave in society by helping everyone who comes into the school with a problem, in here the protagonist meets the female protagonist and they accept to a bet where the person who helps more people via the service club, will be able to do any request to the other party

the concept is good, like, the plot of violet evergarden isn't actually too far off from that idea of learning how to fit in society, but the way it is handled in this anime is weird

I don't like how loneliness is portrayed in this anime, I feel it completely misses the point in many aspects, at first, the protagonists are presented as someone who just choses not to take part in society, same for the female MC, they're lonely because of their own choosing, in fact, they know very well how to behave in society. The way the requests play out is the two protagonists doing death note type mental combat while everyone else just sits and look around because they're the only two characters who are allowed to develop ideas

thing is, in this anime, loneliness is treated as something pathologic, something to be, you're never just lonely, there needs to exist a reason and for that reason to be something that can be fixed. It turns out, that the two protagonists aren't just lonely because they want to be lonely, it's because they had bad previous life experiences that prohibited them from being social, the third and last lonely character from the anime is yoshiteru, who has chuunibyou, something they literally consider a disease.

The protagonist, instead of feeling lonely feels edgy, always alone but way smarter than any other character and is pretty smug and unlikeable at times, the female MC doesn't feel too edgy but I wouldn't say she is properly written either, I just don't really know if the author knows how to actually write a lonely character

that part of the anime is so poorly written that is not sustainable, basically being dropped for the second and third season, which instead of focusing on many different requests they just focus on really big arcs with real stakes attached to them, so they double down on the mental battle thing

but these mental battles don't really feel genuine either, it's not really believable that only the two protagonists are capable of rational thought and that everyone else is a stereotypical villain

even looking at it purely by the romance, it's not really exactly well handled?, for a romance, there is surprisingly little emotion attached to it, which I feel is wasting the power of romances. The general idea of a romcom is that the comedy softens you up for the romance to hit harder, thing is, in this anime the romance doesn't really happen until the very last few episodes, outside that, it's not really a driving factor

also I don't like how totsuka is depicted, it's a femboy who plays tennis, the whole relationship between the mc and totsuka is "haha I want you to be my wife but omggg he's a guy I can't do that" and it just hurts

this is just a self-insert romcom like many others, placed in D rank

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next: Mars of Destruction
furry hater
maybe Final Fantasy Unlimited?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

furry hater wrote:

maybe Final Fantasy Unlimited?
do I need to play any of the ff games?
DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

this is just a self-insert romcom like many others, placed in D rank
Damn I was way off
reffty_gag
watch "The Breadwinner" (2017, movie)
Topic Starter
Patatitta

reffty_gag wrote:

watch "The Breadwinner" (2017, movie)
sure
furry hater

Patatitta wrote:

furry hater wrote:

maybe Final Fantasy Unlimited?
do I need to play any of the ff games?
no
Topic Starter
Patatitta

furry hater wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

furry hater wrote:

maybe Final Fantasy Unlimited?
do I need to play any of the ff games?
no
then sure
MangaGrumpy
review mfkz(movie)... that thang is absolutely wild
also, idk if i can request 2 things at once, but there’s a film adaptation off flowers for algernon called charly, would like you to review that too if u can
z0z
unpacking?
Topic Starter
Patatitta
watched mars of destruction and forgot to write about it here

this anime is a 20 minute ova about aliens and stuff I assume, but really, it's not that bad

the biggest problem of this anime is that they try to cram a whole shounen plot in 20 minutes, when this plot could have lasted at least 13 episodes, so characters die before really getting introduced, backstories are kinda tried to be fit in as best as they could

but really, what is there isn't really that bad, it's just heavily, heavily underdevelopped

skelter heaven is way worse


placed on d rank

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next: the breadwinner

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MangaGrumpy wrote:

review mfkz(movie)... that thang is absolutely wild
also, idk if i can request 2 things at once, but there’s a film adaptation off flowers for algernon called charly, would like you to review that too if u can
is mfkz "mutafukaz"?

also yes, you can request two things at once, I will watch charly


z0z wrote:

unpacking?
banger game but not for this thread
MangaGrumpy

Patatitta wrote:

MangaGrumpy wrote:

review mfkz(movie)... that thang is absolutely wild
also, idk if i can request 2 things at once, but there’s a film adaptation off flowers for algernon called charly, would like you to review that too if u can
is mfkz "mutafukaz"?

also yes, you can request two things at once, I will watch charly
Yeah it is, its just called mfkz in the us
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

watched mars of destruction and forgot to write about it here

this anime is a 20 minute ova about aliens and stuff I assume, but really, it's not that bad

the biggest problem of this anime is that they try to cram a whole shounen plot in 20 minutes, when this plot could have lasted at least 13 episodes, so characters die before really getting introduced, backstories are kinda tried to be fit in as best as they could

but really, what is there isn't really that bad, it's just heavily, heavily underdevelopped

skelter heaven is way worse


placed on d rank
Dang im disappointed you werent more disappointed :\

now I gotta watch skelter heaven I guess
Nuuskamuikkunen

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

watched mars of destruction and forgot to write about it here

this anime is a 20 minute ova about aliens and stuff I assume, but really, it's not that bad

the biggest problem of this anime is that they try to cram a whole shounen plot in 20 minutes, when this plot could have lasted at least 13 episodes, so characters die before really getting introduced, backstories are kinda tried to be fit in as best as they could

but really, what is there isn't really that bad, it's just heavily, heavily underdevelopped

skelter heaven is way worse


placed on d rank
Dang im disappointed you werent more disappointed :\

now I gotta watch skelter heaven I guess
Already told him to and already watched.
Nuuskamuikkunen
Also, can I suggest Yurikuma Arashi? Same creator as Utena and Penguindrum.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Also, can I suggest Yurikuma Arashi? Same creator as Utena and Penguindrum.
the ecchi tag scares me but I trust you enough
Isshiki Kaname
Read a light novel version of solo leveling
warning: tedium
Topic Starter
Patatitta

KatouMegumi wrote:

Read a light novel version of solo leveling
warning: tedium
nah denied I didn't like solo leveling (manwha) so
Corne2Plum3
The queue has been basically empty for 1-2 week this thread really fallen off
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

The queue has been basically empty for 1-2 week this thread really fallen off
I see it more like I have been at this for so long that people are starting to run out of requests
Topic Starter
Patatitta
The Breadwinner

the breadwinner is a western animated movie about how shitty the taliban are, it's alright

the plot is pretty simplistic, it's a family where the parent gets arrested and the girl pretends she's a boy so she can make some money while also trying to get her dad out of prision. My problem with this movie is that it doesn't really say much, it just validates the believes we already had coming in, and that is that the taliban are pretty misogynist, the animation looks okay, it's nothing too remarkable

it's not the most emotional film, not the most interesting film, it just doesn't have a strong point, it does everything well but nothing exceptionally well, it's kinda boring in that regard

I don't know, it's fine I guess, placed in C tier

also in the process of logging this on letterboxd I found someones school project and I think it's funny



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next: Final Fantasy Unlimited
reffty_gag

Patatitta wrote:

also in the process of logging this on letterboxd I found someones school project and I think it's funny

lemaoo
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

The queue has been basically empty for 1-2 week this thread really fallen off
I see it more like I have been at this for so long that people are starting to run out of requests
Yes.
Nuuskamuikkunen

Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

The queue has been basically empty for 1-2 week this thread really fallen off
I see it more like I have been at this for so long that people are starting to run out of requests
Yes.
reffty_gag

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

The queue has been basically empty for 1-2 week this thread really fallen off
I see it more like I have been at this for so long that people are starting to run out of requests
Yes.
sametdze
its hard to think of things for you to review that you'd actually enjoy ;-;
sametdze
have you done the og paper mario for n64 yet? if not pls do it
Topic Starter
Patatitta

sametdze wrote:

have you done the og paper mario for n64 yet? if not pls do it
yeah I guess I could, tho, I won't start playting at least for a few days
Nyzhenets
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (anime)
igorsprite
watch Carandiru
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nyzhenets wrote:

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (anime)
denied because i've actually seen it without actually seeing the anime and honestly that was such a unique experience I don't want to ruin it
DM FOR MUTUAL
how about avatar the last airbender
Topic Starter
Patatitta

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

how about avatar the last airbender
yeah I can do that
abraker
Ok let's do this
- Inglourious Basterds
- Memento
- Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
- No Country for Old Men
- Full Metal Jacket
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
- Mulholland Drive
- District 9
- Life of Pi
- Paprika
- The Fifth Element
- In Time
- 127 Hours
- Rango
- The Platform
- The Babadook
- Spaceballs
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Idiocracy
- Nerve
- Bicentennial Man
- Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
- The Fabelmans
- Super Size Me
- Finch
- Tár
- Top Secret!
- Wolf Children
- Freaks
- The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
- OtherLife
- Mr. Nobody
Ymir
FMJ suck
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Ok let's do this
- Inglourious Basterds
- Memento
- Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
- No Country for Old Men
- Full Metal Jacket
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
- Mulholland Drive
- District 9
- Life of Pi
- Paprika
- The Fifth Element
- In Time
- 127 Hours
- Rango
- The Platform
- The Babadook
- Spaceballs
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Idiocracy
- Nerve
- Bicentennial Man
- Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
- The Fabelmans
- Super Size Me
- Finch
- Tár
- Top Secret!
- Wolf Children
- Freaks
- The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
- OtherLife
- Mr. Nobody
yeah no that may be too much say 5 maximum not every movie you've seen LMAO
sametdze
super size me is good tho cant lie
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Ok let's do this
- Inglourious Basterds
- Memento
- Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
- No Country for Old Men
- Full Metal Jacket
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
- Mulholland Drive
- District 9
- Life of Pi
- Paprika
- The Fifth Element
- In Time
- 127 Hours
- Rango
- The Platform
- The Babadook
- Spaceballs
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Idiocracy
- Nerve
- Bicentennial Man
- Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
- The Fabelmans
- Super Size Me
- Finch
- Tár
- Top Secret!
- Wolf Children
- Freaks
- The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
- OtherLife
- Mr. Nobody
yeah no that may be too much say 5 maximum not every movie you've seen LMAO
Then let's go with
- Inglourious Basterds
- Tár
- Freaks
- Bicentennial Man
- Rango
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Ok let's do this
- Inglourious Basterds
- Memento
- Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
- No Country for Old Men
- Full Metal Jacket
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
- Mulholland Drive
- District 9
- Life of Pi
- Paprika
- The Fifth Element
- In Time
- 127 Hours
- Rango
- The Platform
- The Babadook
- Spaceballs
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Idiocracy
- Nerve
- Bicentennial Man
- Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
- The Fabelmans
- Super Size Me
- Finch
- Tár
- Top Secret!
- Wolf Children
- Freaks
- The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
- OtherLife
- Mr. Nobody
yeah no that may be too much say 5 maximum not every movie you've seen LMAO
Then let's go with
- Inglourious Basterds
- Tár
- Freaks
- Bicentennial Man
- Rango
what version of freaks?, 1932, 2018 or another version i've yet to find?
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Ok let's do this
- Inglourious Basterds
- Memento
- Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
- No Country for Old Men
- Full Metal Jacket
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
- Mulholland Drive
- District 9
- Life of Pi
- Paprika
- The Fifth Element
- In Time
- 127 Hours
- Rango
- The Platform
- The Babadook
- Spaceballs
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Idiocracy
- Nerve
- Bicentennial Man
- Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
- The Fabelmans
- Super Size Me
- Finch
- Tár
- Top Secret!
- Wolf Children
- Freaks
- The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
- OtherLife
- Mr. Nobody
yeah no that may be too much say 5 maximum not every movie you've seen LMAO
Then let's go with
- Inglourious Basterds
- Tár
- Freaks
- Bicentennial Man
- Rango
what version of freaks?, 1932, 2018 or another version i've yet to find?
The 2018 version
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Ok let's do this
- Inglourious Basterds
- Memento
- Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
- No Country for Old Men
- Full Metal Jacket
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail
- Mulholland Drive
- District 9
- Life of Pi
- Paprika
- The Fifth Element
- In Time
- 127 Hours
- Rango
- The Platform
- The Babadook
- Spaceballs
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- Idiocracy
- Nerve
- Bicentennial Man
- Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio
- The Fabelmans
- Super Size Me
- Finch
- Tár
- Top Secret!
- Wolf Children
- Freaks
- The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
- OtherLife
- Mr. Nobody
yeah no that may be too much say 5 maximum not every movie you've seen LMAO
Then let's go with
- Inglourious Basterds
- Tár
- Freaks
- Bicentennial Man
- Rango
what version of freaks?, 1932, 2018 or another version i've yet to find?
The 2018 version
ok
Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

GTA IV

I'm very dissapointed

This is the first time i've ever played any GTA game, which is surprising since it's one of the most popular videogame franchises in the world, I knew kinda how it operated and what it was about, but never actually played it, so now that i've played, I don't think it's a very good videogame

First of all, the GTA IV PC port fucking sucks, The 100% legal download I took for this game already included a modpack that supposedly fixed most of the bugs, but even with that, I've still faced crashes, graphical issues, and i've clipped through the floor once, all of these things have made me have to restart the mission. Although, it's still playable, annoying, but playable,

GTA IV has a plot, it's about this russian immigrant that goes to the united states and tries to pursue the american dream with their cousin by doing all sorts of illegal activities. The start of the story is actually not bad, the first 5-6 missions or so, but after that, the games open up and problems really start to show up

There are A LOT of quests in GTA IV, and, you can kinda pursue any storyline that you want in any order in any moment, this sounds great in theory, but in the practice, that just means a super important plot point happens and then it's not acknowledged for 10 quests because the other quests you have pending to do were available before you even got that quest with the important plot point, so you kinda go back in time when you do a lot of the quests, there isn't really a clear chronological order in most of the quests

there isn't a pacing with the story, so it just feels bad, the story kinda did lose me halfway through because in order to actually keep pursuing it I had to do all of these other missions from secondary characters I just didn't care much about

The story itself also has a lot of problems, a lot of plot holes in fact, this is something that applies to more videogames but I find especially frustrating in this game, and that is, death only matters if it happens in a cinematic. There is a part at the start of the game where you kill someone who in the grand scheme of things is just a crook, but, you now have to face the consequences of having killed them, the loan sharks that guy had are now going to seek you, which makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the rest of the game, and that is, even in story missions you kill hundreds and hundreds of people with gang affiliations and other stuff, where are the consequences for that?, the only kills that end up mattering are the ones that happen in a cinematic

The game is also very contrived in order to make the game work, for example, in a lot of story missions the game won't spawn police, is the police not showing up when it normally would not a plot hole?, when you're on a mission and you're chasing a car, that car doesn't follow the same rules yours do, it has different collisions, in fact, a lot of NPC on vehicles are completely immortal unless you reach a certain point in the route. Shooting a enemy, them not dying, shooting them again but in a different point in a road and dying, isn't that a plot hole?, there a clear disconnect from the gameplay and the story, they feel made by two entirely different dev teams

But I mean, if you're playing GTA, you're not really doing it for the story most of the time, GTA is a power fantasy, you run around, kill people, steal cars, create chaos, etc. I don't think they pull this off either.

Most time in GTA, you're going to be inside of a car or a vehicle, in fact, the game doesn't really have an OST in the general sense, but radios you can turn on and switch while on the car, the ideal scenario is that you're escaping from all these cops, maybe shooting back, doing all of these cool tricks, with the song you like playing, it's supposed to make you feel badass and unstoppable, you're supposed to feel like baby driver

but sadly, the mechanics just doesn't really allow for any of that to happen, the car controls feel like you're drunk, the drift is basically useless, the ideal way to deal to police is to NOT shoot back, so if you can avoid fighting with cops at all, you take that chance, even if you have a helicopter chasing you, do not shoot back.

The way you escape from police is to get out of their vision range and then just wait 5 seconds, idk, waiting still hoping that RNG wont spawn a police car in my face is not the coolest way to escape from police?, it's very boring

This game is not polished at all, even if you exclude all the bugs, a lot of things in this game seem to have been made without much care at all. Again, immortal NPC, enemies having different laws of physics, very clear rubberbanding, loading screens while changing clothes without a menu to choose directly what you want to wear (like come on, at least give me a way to save outfits).

There is actually one part of the game that really annoyed me, and it comes down to a lack of polish. There are two or three points on the game where the story mandates you use a helicopter, this is fine, in the tutorial that shows up when you first mount an helicopter you can either use WASD or the numeric keyboard to control the helicopter, I decided to use the numeric keyboard since it was easier for me. I reach the last mission and it gives me a helicopter, but this helicopter isn't like the ones you've piloted before, this one has weapons, and you shoot your weapons with left click. Can you see the problem?, i've been controlling helicopters with my right hand on the numeric keyboard, and you're now expecting me to put my right hand on the mouse, it's impossible, you MUST use WASD to fly the helicopter, so in the time I need to get used to the WASD controls, the enemy flies away and I have to restart the entire mission once again. That death did not feel fair at all.

So yeah, the story did not engage me, there were bugs and a lack of polish, it did not live up as a power fantasy, haven't even mentioned it in the post but I feel al ot of the minigames are a bit mid, so yeah, this game sucks.

Placed in D tier. Or at least would, tiermaker still does not work.

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next: artic eggs
still reading 17776
I don't know what the fuck you played but cool. Yes, I'm a two months late. Fuck off if you have a problem with that.
Topic Starter
Patatitta
I still hold all my opinions of gta, for a game that is supposed to be a power fantasy, the mechanics sure fight against you
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Final Fantasy Unlimited

not a very good anime

final fantasy unlimited is a isekai-ish where a family gets into wonderland, the parents first, and then the kids later, who try to find and reunite with their parents.

even if it has the final fantasy name, this story is original, it's not an adaptation, and it's a bit boring, it's mostly an adventure anime but it doesn't really do anything very interesting and it also has a lot of comedy which eh, sometimes land but it doesn't really carry the aniem by itself

this anime has some quirks tho, first of all, the production time is surprisingly high for the year it was created in, it uses a lot of early CG which does look bad compared to nowadays but I wouldn't say it looks bad in the anime, they also got the group that made all of the initial D endings for the second ED, by all means is not a small production

second, this anime doesn't feel like a videogame at all, it also doesn't feel like final fantasy at all, yes, they do references and have chocobos and do the victory theme, but a lot of the time it feels closer to hunter x hunter than anything else, like really, anime is HEAVILY influenced by games like dragon quest and stuff, so for an anime about a videogame to have less videogame ADN than a regular seasonal anime, that shit is impressive

also, I have finished FF7 today, which was the reason why I hadn't started paper mario yet, but yeah, this anime is not very good, placed in D rank

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will start with paper mario now
next: Mutafukaz
Topic Starter
Patatitta
NFKZ:

french-japanese anime collaboration, mixed about it

It's a anime about gangsters and weird aliens, mainly the first tho, it's very action packed, lots of stunts, not any real drama or whatever, and I didn't get too into it, it's not exactly a original story and for action there are many anime that does it better.

It does look very good, but it's not as breaking or generally berathtaking for that to carry the entire thing, also, i'm not the biggest fan of some of the decisions on the visuals, mainly because it feels like it's trying to replicate the same camera shots and the same general things as a life action movie like with the camera shake, and I don't think an animation should strife to imitate real life, I don't think it really takes full advantage of it

I don't really have much to say about it, the movie is just a bland but with good animation. D rank

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Started paper mario, and so far, I can confirm, mario is indeed paper.

Next: Charly
Polyspora
D streak
reffty_gag
"Grave Of The Fireflies" (1988, movie)
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Charly

people aparently don't really like this adaptation but idk man I liked it

This is an adaptation of the book flowers for algernon which I previously read on this thread, and I think this is a good adaptation, it doesn't follow the book 1:1, in fact, it has many, many differences, but I am not a believer that a adaptation should be faithful to the source material, I think you have to work to the strenghts of the medium, (this is kinda what I was saying in this thread)

Flowers for algernon was written in diary entries, and you could see their intelligence advancing via the vocabulary he used and the spelling mistakes, being a movie you can't really do that, instead, it gives you what really was going on, not what charly percieved in the book, which really shifts the narrative, the movie is more focused on the people surrounding charly than charly himself

everything else I have to say is the same as I said in the book, so maybe read that too

I think that if you've read the book you can watch the movie and if you've watched the movie you can watch the movie they feel complementary more than "the same but in a different medium", so placed in A rank, like the book

reffty_gag wrote:

"Grave Of The Fireflies" (1988, movie)
already seen

Studio ghibli has three type of movies

1- Cool magical adventure! (mainly for younger audiences), some examples of this are spirited away or mononoke
2- More cozy type of film (still for younger audiences), some examples of this are totoro or kiki's delivery service
3- A world war 2 drama about a patriotic japanese civilian trying to survive while caring about her little sister after their parents passed away as collateral deaths due to the incessant bombing of the war (what the fuck)

like really, I'm honestly astonished how completely different this is to every single other movie they've done, maybe the closest is nausica?, but it's not remotely as grim as grave of the fireflies, imagine if disney or pixar did that, after they release toy story or whatever they released a movie about the horrors of wars and not in a kid-friendly way

I also think grave of the fireflies is one of the best ghibli films, tho I think animation is not the best medium for stories about war, specially about how war is bad, mainly because it creates a layer of abstraction which kinda devaluates the message of the film, the more real it feels, the more impactful it is, this is for example one of the reasons why 1917 is recorded like it's a single continuous shot (they have cuts but they just hide it very well)

still, this movie is a banger, the movie looks great, the situation truly does feel dire, seeing all of the characters in this shitty situation is really tough, I like the commentary they do on ideology, it doesn't matter if they won the war, you still have all of those civilain deaths and absolute destruction across your country, the only difference is that if you win, you at least feel it was worth it, but is it really?, can you really see this movie and go "yeah wars are really cool actually"

this movie also shows about how war is unfair, the people that survive aren't the ones that "deserve" it the most (everyone deserves to live, I just mean, just because someone is a better person that doesn't give you better odds at surviving), a lot of it comes down to your social and economical standing previous to the war, the skills you know, (a methematician is not the most useful on a community trying to survive a tragic situation, but if you were a medic or a farmer, you're now the coolest person in town), and also geographical location, it doens't matter how prepared you are, if you're unlucky, the bombs will always take your life

also the relation between the two protagonist is beautiful

so yeah, really banger movie, placed in A rank

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Patatitta
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i'm so not watching this, cool visuals and all but come fuck no

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Patatitta wrote:

Yuri Kuma Arashi(dropped)

i'm so not watching this, cool visuals and all but come fuck no

next: Avatar the last airbender
Surprised that didn’t go into how could you do this to me tier
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