the first movie, the original trilogy, or all 4 movies? (i've seen the original trilogy but not the new one)burgernfat wrote:
the matrix
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first inePatatitta wrote:
the first movie, the original trilogy, or all 4 movies? (i've seen the original trilogy but not the new one)burgernfat wrote:
the matrix
how the fuck did i not think of this b4
you will review .flow or i will kill you
games free online here https://ynoproject.net/flow/
or here if you have easyrpg and dont mind not being nihongo jouzu http://lolrust.site/game/dotflow/
you will review .flow or i will kill you
games free online here https://ynoproject.net/flow/
or here if you have easyrpg and dont mind not being nihongo jouzu http://lolrust.site/game/dotflow/
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will do laterburgernfat wrote:
first inePatatitta wrote:
the first movie, the original trilogy, or all 4 movies? (i've seen the original trilogy but not the new one)burgernfat wrote:
the matrix
okReyalp51 wrote:
how the fuck did i not think of this b4
you will review .flow or i will kill you
games free online here https://ynoproject.net/flow/
or here if you have easyrpg and dont mind not being nihongo jouzu http://lolrust.site/game/dotflow/
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I have some beef with matrix 1 (and matrix in general)
But before that, we have to admit that matrix was really original in what special effects and visual goes, the slowdown was revolutionary for the time, the sets have a very unique feel, the shots themselves, the clothing, it's all SO iconic, and I really respect matrix for that
I do think that the actual setting of them being in a virtual world and learning how to abuse that fact is really well done, it's a lot better executed than a lot of newer movies and stuff with similar concepts
My problem is the actual concept of the matrix, I just don't buy into the idea. Even in real life, there is the theory that everything is a simulation, there is no proof for this, but there isn't any proof against it either, it's not something we can prove or disprove, at least with our current knowledge and technology
Let's say we ARE in a matrix, we find a way to break out of the matrix and into the higher level, now, how do we know we're NOT in a matrix?, for all that we know, there could be multiple nested simulations, and if that is the case, those simulations could run basically infinite, going a level above doesn't mean you're in the "true" level
If life was a simulation, would your life be different?, would any of your life experiences be any less real?, no, they would be the same, your life is going to be the exact same be this universe real or a matrix, so, what's the real point?
why go out of the matrix?, just to push humanity into a worse world where they're likely to die just to pursuit a reality that we cant prove if it exists or have any sort of effects in our lifes?
The only eral reason I would see for wanting to risk your life to go out of the matrix is due to religious and/or spiritual reason, which I don't recall them following in the movie
the actual movie is good, and I don't think that criticism mattered much at the time, matrix was so innovative and original in so many ways, but now, there are lot of media that tackles those same concepts in a more interesting way, and the innovations matrix did now are just industry standard, so yeah, good movie but maybe doesn't it doesn't stand the passage of time that much
Placed in B tier
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7 Days to End with You (Dropped)
sorry wont do this, I don't like puzzle games and this is no exception, this is the most overwhelmed, confused, and frustrated i've been in a game for a long time, every time I thought I solved a word I would find another use where the word would make no sense,
In fact, there is a part near the start of the game where they tutorialized adding your translation of words, however, I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the fuck that word mean, i'm so fucking ass at puzzle games I couldn't figure out THE TUTORIAL
i've played up to day 3 and it's just so, so agonizing to play for me and that is just an experience I don't want to have
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next: .flow
But before that, we have to admit that matrix was really original in what special effects and visual goes, the slowdown was revolutionary for the time, the sets have a very unique feel, the shots themselves, the clothing, it's all SO iconic, and I really respect matrix for that
I do think that the actual setting of them being in a virtual world and learning how to abuse that fact is really well done, it's a lot better executed than a lot of newer movies and stuff with similar concepts
My problem is the actual concept of the matrix, I just don't buy into the idea. Even in real life, there is the theory that everything is a simulation, there is no proof for this, but there isn't any proof against it either, it's not something we can prove or disprove, at least with our current knowledge and technology
Let's say we ARE in a matrix, we find a way to break out of the matrix and into the higher level, now, how do we know we're NOT in a matrix?, for all that we know, there could be multiple nested simulations, and if that is the case, those simulations could run basically infinite, going a level above doesn't mean you're in the "true" level
If life was a simulation, would your life be different?, would any of your life experiences be any less real?, no, they would be the same, your life is going to be the exact same be this universe real or a matrix, so, what's the real point?
why go out of the matrix?, just to push humanity into a worse world where they're likely to die just to pursuit a reality that we cant prove if it exists or have any sort of effects in our lifes?
The only eral reason I would see for wanting to risk your life to go out of the matrix is due to religious and/or spiritual reason, which I don't recall them following in the movie
the actual movie is good, and I don't think that criticism mattered much at the time, matrix was so innovative and original in so many ways, but now, there are lot of media that tackles those same concepts in a more interesting way, and the innovations matrix did now are just industry standard, so yeah, good movie but maybe doesn't it doesn't stand the passage of time that much
Placed in B tier
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7 Days to End with You (Dropped)
sorry wont do this, I don't like puzzle games and this is no exception, this is the most overwhelmed, confused, and frustrated i've been in a game for a long time, every time I thought I solved a word I would find another use where the word would make no sense,
In fact, there is a part near the start of the game where they tutorialized adding your translation of words, however, I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the fuck that word mean, i'm so fucking ass at puzzle games I couldn't figure out THE TUTORIAL
i've played up to day 3 and it's just so, so agonizing to play for me and that is just an experience I don't want to have
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next: .flow
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Shin Godzilla:
Never seen a kaiju film before, and i'm pleasantly surprised
Directed by hideaki anno, director of evangelion and some other better stuff, it's a movie about godzilla showing up in the beach and then the government shitting themselves as they don't know how to deal with that situation, it's not really an action movie like I expected, it's more of a drama with godzilla involved, I actually asked my friend who is into kaijus if this was the case normally and they told me yeah
This movie is entirerily about burocracy and politics, and how our current system wouldn't hold if godzilla appeared in the cost of tokyo, which honestly, yeah, I don't think the government is prepared for that LMAO. Point is, the current system cant really handle extremely urgent circumstances, because there is a lot of steps to carry out anything, the chain of command is long and therefore slow, the law is ambiguous in certain parts, (my fav part of the movie are two characters discussing if godzilla attacking would legally count as an attack from a foreign country) and there are a lot of caviats that need to be fulfilled before doing anything
then you have other countries trying to cash in your situation, they're not going to accept to fight godzilla for free even if it is a existential threat to humanity as a whole, your public opinion is entirerily on the line with every action with may destroy your career even if you're trying to save everyone, we judge ourselves by our intentions, but we judge other people for their actions.
The movie is very fast paced, this denotes the feeling of urgency, in fact, the movie basically plays in real time, as in the first hour of the movie, I think only 2 hours pass in the movie, which feels pretty cool
The only thing I would say I disliked about this movie is actually the reference to evangelion, since I feel it kinda shifts the discussion of this film to "omg evangelionnnnnnnnnnnn" rather than the film itself, which I did not like
so yeah, pleasantly surprised with this film, will watch other kaiju films in the future
placed in A rank
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Gone Girl
Movie by david fincher, pretty good too
It's about the story of probably the single most toxic relationship you've ever seen, how a relationship like that forms, why it fails, and everything that happens after that
It's a tried and true concept, there are some other movies with similar concepts that have been successes in the past, however, david fincher adds a little bit more of spice into it, for example, a thing that I really like is the commentary it does on how justice works differently if you're famous and how your public image takes part in that
like fight club, the ending is extremely shocking, even in a movie where a lot of bad things happens, there is nothing graphic, except for the ending, this is to make it even more impactful and it does work
overall good movie, nothing special but good, placed in B rank
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kept playing .flow, I have 9 transformation out of idk how many
Never seen a kaiju film before, and i'm pleasantly surprised
Directed by hideaki anno, director of evangelion and some other better stuff, it's a movie about godzilla showing up in the beach and then the government shitting themselves as they don't know how to deal with that situation, it's not really an action movie like I expected, it's more of a drama with godzilla involved, I actually asked my friend who is into kaijus if this was the case normally and they told me yeah
This movie is entirerily about burocracy and politics, and how our current system wouldn't hold if godzilla appeared in the cost of tokyo, which honestly, yeah, I don't think the government is prepared for that LMAO. Point is, the current system cant really handle extremely urgent circumstances, because there is a lot of steps to carry out anything, the chain of command is long and therefore slow, the law is ambiguous in certain parts, (my fav part of the movie are two characters discussing if godzilla attacking would legally count as an attack from a foreign country) and there are a lot of caviats that need to be fulfilled before doing anything
then you have other countries trying to cash in your situation, they're not going to accept to fight godzilla for free even if it is a existential threat to humanity as a whole, your public opinion is entirerily on the line with every action with may destroy your career even if you're trying to save everyone, we judge ourselves by our intentions, but we judge other people for their actions.
The movie is very fast paced, this denotes the feeling of urgency, in fact, the movie basically plays in real time, as in the first hour of the movie, I think only 2 hours pass in the movie, which feels pretty cool
The only thing I would say I disliked about this movie is actually the reference to evangelion, since I feel it kinda shifts the discussion of this film to "omg evangelionnnnnnnnnnnn" rather than the film itself, which I did not like
so yeah, pleasantly surprised with this film, will watch other kaiju films in the future
placed in A rank
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Gone Girl
Movie by david fincher, pretty good too
It's about the story of probably the single most toxic relationship you've ever seen, how a relationship like that forms, why it fails, and everything that happens after that
It's a tried and true concept, there are some other movies with similar concepts that have been successes in the past, however, david fincher adds a little bit more of spice into it, for example, a thing that I really like is the commentary it does on how justice works differently if you're famous and how your public image takes part in that
like fight club, the ending is extremely shocking, even in a movie where a lot of bad things happens, there is nothing graphic, except for the ending, this is to make it even more impactful and it does work
overall good movie, nothing special but good, placed in B rank
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kept playing .flow, I have 9 transformation out of idk how many
Godzilla minus one ?
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surereffty_gag wrote:
Godzilla minus one ?
watch "Byousoku 5 Centimeter (5 centimeter persecond)" by Makoto Shinkai, can you censor the spoiler part ? I take this as a first impression (sorry im just req two movies)
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Godzilla minus one is a godzilla movie about godzilla showing up in japan just after the end of WW2, and keeping in theme with the previosu and only other kaiju film i've ever seen, godzilla appears in like 2 scenes total, my friend told me this was the rule and now I can confirm thatreffty_gag wrote:
Godzilla minus one ?
The actual plot of the movie is about this guy who was a kamikaze in WW2 yet refused to actually commit suicide for their country, which is, an extremely dishonorable thing to do. As far as I know, japanese are fucking crazy with that sort of stuff, like, you used to have the samurais with the harakiris and shit, not commiting suicide is often seen as a bad thing. There once was a japenese man who survived the crash of the titanic, yet was shamed by the public because they didn't go down with the ship.
Godzilla is just there to give this man another war, the movie is a lot more focused on him than on godzilla, and for good reason, the drama is really good.
Honestly japan seems to be doing the kaiju stuff a lot better than america with godzilla vs kong and stuff, this is a movie that from what I have seen it doesn't really change godzilla biology or whatever when compared to shin godzilla, you don't need to watch any other godzilla movie instead of the 20 movies that a lot of american movie franchises ask you to do, it stands by it's own two feet rather than relying entirerily on the IP, it's good
If i'm being entirerily honest, I liked shin godzilla slightly more but this is basically at the same level
Placed at A rank
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Lucky for you, I have already seen it, also, there is nothing against requesting multiple things at once, people have done it in the past, so yeah, go wild with requests, also, in terms of spoilers, this movie isn't like that, you already kind of know what is going to happen going into the moviereffty_gag wrote:
watch "Byousoku 5 Centimeter (5 centimeter persecond)" by Makoto Shinkai, can you censor the spoiler part ? I take this as a first impression (sorry im just req two movies)
I LOVE makoto shinkai, they made some of my favourite anime, and some of the first ones I ever watched, and, in fact, I own TWO posters for makoto shinkai movies, weatherign with you and suzume. Also, not so long ago I read the 5 centimeter per second manga since I wanted to remember how it went
5 centimeter per second is probably the most painful and emotionally charged movie makoto shinkai has ever made, it's not really in my top 10 most painful things i've watched tho, still emotional regardless
The movie is about the passage of time and how this affects relationships, it narrates the life of this guy, the movie being divided in different stages of life, each scene isn't really the most impactful moment of their lifes, but they really showcases how their lifes has changed
Your social circle is always changing, you meet people and then you stop talking to people, and for this later thing to happen you don't really need to have a fight, just for your lifes to split, maybe it's inconvenient talking to them, maybe there are other, more important people in your life now, maybe you jsut don't enjoy being around them that much anymore
When talking about relationships, loving someone isn't enough by itself, the circumstanecs need to be right, in a relationship you're investing yourself to try to make it last, but we cant control everything in life, sometimes it's just impossible for two people to stay together, there is a reason why long distance relationships tend to fail, that teenage relationships tend to fail, it's just not a stable environment
But that is life, yes, it may be painful at the moment and maybe sad to think about, but is it really a bad thing that you split with everyone you knew at a certain point in life?, not really, if anything, always being tied to them would be a bad thing
I've seen people describe movies like this or I want to eat your pancreas or whatever as "crybait", and honestly that's a term and idea that I hate, yes, being moved and getting emotional over these type of films is intended, but there are also movies which point is to scare us or to make us feel a certain way
A lot of people also criticize that the way these movies make you emotional is "cheap", that they may be tropes or whatever, but again, I don't see why crying over an extremely complex circumstance is better than crying over the simple things, a movie isn't better the more complex it is, I think a lot of that criticism is very missguided and that works like these are often underrated
so yeah, this is a really good anime, A rank
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still playing .flow
hmmmm........ do the cat returns (studio ghibli) if you can find it
Topic Starter
I can find anythinglostsilver wrote:
hmmmm........ do the cat returns (studio ghibli) if you can find it
ah :/Patatitta wrote:
I can find anythinglostsilver wrote:
hmmmm........ do the cat returns (studio ghibli) if you can find it
uhmm... how about howl's moving castle if it hasn't been requested yet?
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??? why are you changing it I said I CAN find itlostsilver wrote:
ah :/Patatitta wrote:
I can find anythinglostsilver wrote:
hmmmm........ do the cat returns (studio ghibli) if you can find it
uhmm... how about howl's moving castle if it hasn't been requested yet?
also, "if it hasn't been requested yet", you can check that yourself and yes, it was requested already
oohh.... sorry, i misread it as "i can't find anything" :<Patatitta wrote:
??? why are you changing it I said I CAN find itlostsilver wrote:
ah :/Patatitta wrote:
I can find anythinglostsilver wrote:
hmmmm........ do the cat returns (studio ghibli) if you can find it
uhmm... how about howl's moving castle if it hasn't been requested yet?
also, "if it hasn't been requested yet", you can check that yourself and yes, it was requested already
my eyes and brain are still tired
first suggest all the fixes you need to download to even play the gameWinnyace wrote:
Did someone suggest GTA IV before?
I've been playing fully vanilla with no issues under Linux though.Polyspora wrote:
first suggest all the fixes you need to download to even play the gameWinnyace wrote:
Did someone suggest GTA IV before?
are you suggesting the problem is the OS and not the historical bad ports rockstar makes?Winnyace wrote:
I've been playing fully vanilla with no issues under Linux though.Polyspora wrote:
first suggest all the fixes you need to download to even play the gameWinnyace wrote:
Did someone suggest GTA IV before?
anyway, normal people (like patatitta) play on windows (even linux people with a VM), so my point still stands
Are you a moron or do you fake being a moron because it fits your bullshit? I said that because historically, as you said, Rockstar made shit PC ports until GTA V (not sure how RDR2 is on PC). You're right, but I said it is possible to play it vanilla too. Plus, such mods are 100 times easier to install on Windows than on Linux. GPU passthrough is also way too complicated and only a handful of people do it nowadays. It was bigger back in the day when Proton wasn't as great, but it got so far that most games on Steam seem to just work or have some sort of fix available to make them playable.Polyspora wrote:
are you suggesting the problem is the OS and not the historical bad ports rockstar makes?Winnyace wrote:
I've been playing fully vanilla with no issues under Linux though.Polyspora wrote:
first suggest all the fixes you need to download to even play the gameWinnyace wrote:
Did someone suggest GTA IV before?
anyway, normal people (like patatitta) play on windows (even linux people with a VM), so my point still stands
patatitta have you heard of Until Then
it is a VN, but has some good motifs in it
it is a VN, but has some good motifs in it
+1 I'm apparently a moron but I'm also right I guess lolWinnyace wrote:
Are you a moron or do you fake being a moron because it fits your bullshit? I said that because historically, as you said, Rockstar made shit PC ports until GTA V (not sure how RDR2 is on PC). You're right, but I said it is possible to play it vanilla too. Plus, such mods are 100 times easier to install on Windows than on Linux. GPU passthrough is also way too complicated and only a handful of people do it nowadays. It was bigger back in the day when Proton wasn't as great, but it got so far that most games on Steam seem to just work or have some sort of fix available to make them playable.Polyspora wrote:
are you suggesting the problem is the OS and not the historical bad ports rockstar makes?Winnyace wrote:
I've been playing fully vanilla with no issues under Linux though.Polyspora wrote:
first suggest all the fixes you need to download to even play the gameWinnyace wrote:
Did someone suggest GTA IV before?
anyway, normal people (like patatitta) play on windows (even linux people with a VM), so my point still stands
kingdom hearts(series)
Topic Starter
every human has it's limits, deniedMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
kingdom hearts(series)
You can check if it was already done or not yourself, also, not my type of game, but I will try it outWinnyace wrote:
Did someone suggest GTA IV before?
lmao yeah i can actually agree with thisPatatitta wrote:
every human has it's limits, deniedMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
kingdom hearts(series)
jesus the guy just wanted to communicate, chill batataPatatitta wrote:
every human has it's limits, deniedMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
kingdom hearts(series)You can check if it was already done or not yourself, also, not my type of game, but I will try it outWinnyace wrote:
Did someone suggest GTA IV before?
Topic Starter
.flow
I'm mixed about this game
This game is a yume nikki fangame, but, I feel that's about it, it doesn't offer nothing new, it isn't really original and groundbreaking like the original yume nikki room, this game is just "what if there were more rooms and transformations to collect", and while it does that pretty well, there is nothing more here, this is an expansion pack for yume nikki more than a game that can stand by itself
Unlike yume nikki, this game seems to be overall more focused, instead of taking the yume nikki approach of making literally anything into a room, this game feels like it's trying to tell a story, a lot of zone themes repeat, and they all feel like distorted memories of the protagonist, you have a school, a bar, a hospital, and even the more out there sections of the game like the place where you can cut off your head, are a lot less out there than some zones in yume nikki
some zones are kinda revamped version of yume nikki rooms, things like the console zone or the snow zone or the more psychodelic part with the teleports are all yume nikki zones. Honestly I don't really like this, a lot of what made yume nikki interesting was the initial shock of playing it and it being so bizarre, it being less bizarre and going "oh i've already seen this" kinda takes away from the experience IMO
I don't think that it was trying to do was entirerily wrong tho, I think a game that has this similar goal of being a more focused yume nikki would be lisa the first, but IMO, lisa the first does it better, it's a lot more lineal yes, but it's a lot more effective with it's storytelling and for me, a lot of the sections like the legendary stairs are a lot more memorable than the third apartment section in .flow
However, I will give .flow a bit of praise, it felt more disturbing than yume nikki. While yume nikki is tagged as an horror game, it never really felt scary, but there are like 2 sections or so of .flow that kinda did make me feel uneasy, so props to them
Note that I have obtained the normal ending, so, get all transformations, reading online there is another ending that requires you to lose all effects and then do two more zones, but reading over it, it didn't felt too interesting or worth my time very much, so I just decided not to do it
Also, this game has only 4 sections in the hub, however, these sections are way longer and they're all connected with each other, I don't know if I like this choice, it makes you take longer to get to each destination, and what is fun about this game is to just explore the new zones, not repeat the same sections over and over again
I haven't really also spotted many RNG events in this game other than the main hub changing colors, A thing that I liked in yume nikki and even games like omori is that they have random events that will leave you very confused and then it will force you to talk about it to your friends who haven't seen that event so they take you as crazy, I think that is really good game design, it also makes going through previous zones more exciting, trying to repeat a route to only find out it doesn't work anymore or interacting with something that hasn't ever done anything and it suddenly doing something is really cool, so I dislike the fact that .flow doesn't really lean into this harder.
Reyalp is going to hate me for this since they play yume nikki fangames 24/7, but I don't think yume nikki is that good of a game to endlessly replay, what felt interesting for yume nikki to me was the idea, not so much the execution, as I said on my original post about yume nikki, I like games that take elements from yume nikki to assist them with the storytelling in other games than yume nikki itself, so just playing yume nikki reskinned is not that good of an experience
placed in C tier
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haven't started cat returns, kinda forgot about it, will watch now
next: GTA IV
I'm mixed about this game
This game is a yume nikki fangame, but, I feel that's about it, it doesn't offer nothing new, it isn't really original and groundbreaking like the original yume nikki room, this game is just "what if there were more rooms and transformations to collect", and while it does that pretty well, there is nothing more here, this is an expansion pack for yume nikki more than a game that can stand by itself
Unlike yume nikki, this game seems to be overall more focused, instead of taking the yume nikki approach of making literally anything into a room, this game feels like it's trying to tell a story, a lot of zone themes repeat, and they all feel like distorted memories of the protagonist, you have a school, a bar, a hospital, and even the more out there sections of the game like the place where you can cut off your head, are a lot less out there than some zones in yume nikki
some zones are kinda revamped version of yume nikki rooms, things like the console zone or the snow zone or the more psychodelic part with the teleports are all yume nikki zones. Honestly I don't really like this, a lot of what made yume nikki interesting was the initial shock of playing it and it being so bizarre, it being less bizarre and going "oh i've already seen this" kinda takes away from the experience IMO
I don't think that it was trying to do was entirerily wrong tho, I think a game that has this similar goal of being a more focused yume nikki would be lisa the first, but IMO, lisa the first does it better, it's a lot more lineal yes, but it's a lot more effective with it's storytelling and for me, a lot of the sections like the legendary stairs are a lot more memorable than the third apartment section in .flow
However, I will give .flow a bit of praise, it felt more disturbing than yume nikki. While yume nikki is tagged as an horror game, it never really felt scary, but there are like 2 sections or so of .flow that kinda did make me feel uneasy, so props to them
Note that I have obtained the normal ending, so, get all transformations, reading online there is another ending that requires you to lose all effects and then do two more zones, but reading over it, it didn't felt too interesting or worth my time very much, so I just decided not to do it
Also, this game has only 4 sections in the hub, however, these sections are way longer and they're all connected with each other, I don't know if I like this choice, it makes you take longer to get to each destination, and what is fun about this game is to just explore the new zones, not repeat the same sections over and over again
I haven't really also spotted many RNG events in this game other than the main hub changing colors, A thing that I liked in yume nikki and even games like omori is that they have random events that will leave you very confused and then it will force you to talk about it to your friends who haven't seen that event so they take you as crazy, I think that is really good game design, it also makes going through previous zones more exciting, trying to repeat a route to only find out it doesn't work anymore or interacting with something that hasn't ever done anything and it suddenly doing something is really cool, so I dislike the fact that .flow doesn't really lean into this harder.
Reyalp is going to hate me for this since they play yume nikki fangames 24/7, but I don't think yume nikki is that good of a game to endlessly replay, what felt interesting for yume nikki to me was the idea, not so much the execution, as I said on my original post about yume nikki, I like games that take elements from yume nikki to assist them with the storytelling in other games than yume nikki itself, so just playing yume nikki reskinned is not that good of an experience
placed in C tier
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haven't started cat returns, kinda forgot about it, will watch now
next: GTA IV
fair, i also did not like the rust section of the game
i like to value games separately, in a world where yume nikki exist there will never be a game that is a better yume nikki i get that, but i still tink this game is on par with yume nikki even if it is quite the different aproach to what dream simulators usually are but this is just subjective
btw there are a lot of random events in this game that is a skill issue on you
i like to value games separately, in a world where yume nikki exist there will never be a game that is a better yume nikki i get that, but i still tink this game is on par with yume nikki even if it is quite the different aproach to what dream simulators usually are but this is just subjective
btw there are a lot of random events in this game that is a skill issue on you
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idk, it's too derivative from yume nikki for me to really find anything special from itReyalp51 wrote:
fair, i also did not like the rust section of the game
i like to value games separately, in a world where yume nikki exist there will never be a game that is a better yume nikki i get that, but i still tink this game is on par with yume nikki even if it is quite the different aproach to what dream simulators usually are but this is just subjective
btw there are a lot of random events in this game that is a skill issue on you
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The cat returns
but where did they go tho
studio ghibli movie about this girl who saves a cat who turns out to be a royal member of the cat kingdom who tries to repay her really hard
The movie is nice, its not the best movie studio ghibli has ever done, or the more unique, but there aren't bad studio ghibli movies, it was just fine
the movie has this feel of it being a modern fairy tail, something that you would feel your mother reading to you before going to sleep when you're like 4, but as far as I knmow the concept is all original
I don't have much to say about this movie, it's just fine
placed at b tier
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haven't started gta
Curious on your thoughts on AIR.
We got this thread bumped before GTA VI
Topic Starter
also, just so you guys know, my first impression of GTA hasn't been very positive lmao
The AIR anime adaptation since I haven't played the VN tho.Patatitta wrote:
thought this thread wouldn't be bumped until I finished GTA IV, I assume you mean this AIR?Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
Curious on your thoughts on AIR.
Topic Starter
ahhh I see, okay, will check it outNuuskamuikkunen wrote:
The AIR anime adaptation since I haven't played the VN tho.Patatitta wrote:
thought this thread wouldn't be bumped until I finished GTA IV, I assume you mean this AIR?Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:
Curious on your thoughts on AIR.
I mean, i would suggest the loud house revamped, but it’s over 2300 chapters and 30 million words (making it, I shiz you not, the longest piece of literature ever written) so I don’t know if you’d accept it or not
Topic Starter
have you read it yourself?MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
I mean, i would suggest the loud house revamped, but it’s over 2300 chapters and 30 million words (making it, I shiz you not, the longest piece of literature ever written) so I don’t know if you’d accept it or not
Considering what you've on your higher tiers and what you recommended in the past, I'm not surprised.Patatitta wrote:
also, just so you guys know, my first impression of GTA hasn't been very positive lmao
I will not even dare toPatatitta wrote:
have you read it yourself?MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
I mean, i would suggest the loud house revamped, but it’s over 2300 chapters and 30 million words (making it, I shiz you not, the longest piece of literature ever written) so I don’t know if you’d accept it or not
Topic Starter
then, no, honestly even if you had said yes, still noMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
I will not even dare toPatatitta wrote:
have you read it yourself?MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
I mean, i would suggest the loud house revamped, but it’s over 2300 chapters and 30 million words (making it, I shiz you not, the longest piece of literature ever written) so I don’t know if you’d accept it or not
celeste
Kaiju No. 8 (2024)
Topic Starter
this one right?reffty_gag wrote:
Kaiju No. 8 (2024)
yePatatitta wrote:
this one right?reffty_gag wrote:
Kaiju No. 8 (2024)
Total recall (1990)
Topic Starter
sureMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
Total recall (1990)
Topic Starter
Air (the anime not the visual novel)
Pretty ass (sorry aireunaeus)
I remember EBLF telling me about this anime when I was ranting about IF, saying that this anime was somehow less focused, and they were right
Visual novels are really long games, and most of them are basically glorified dating sims, you talk to one girl a lot so you end up doing the route of that girl where you learn about her backstory, help her out and maybe there is also one or two sex scenes. Animes are a linear genre, so, when you try to adapt a game that is supposed to have decisions and route into another medium which doesn't have decisions and you're also trying to fit it in a much smaller runtime you need to know how to do it, and this anime just didn't know how to do it (that or the VN is also ass I haven't played it)
This anime has SO many plotpoints and none of them are explored, do you know how with the OT!Book I criticized ther being like 20 chapters of characters introduction? that also happens here, the first 3 chapters or so are just introductions, and then, like the OT book, none of those characters are developed
this anime skips from introductions straight to the ending, whenever the first arc of the anime got "resolved" I was so confused because like, nothing had really happened, i'm being honest, the protagonist just stood there doing nothing and things kinda solved themselves?, the worst part is that after that arc stopped we move to a entirerily different setting where we have MORE introductions and then the same thing happens
The way the story develops really isn't natural, feels very forced at points, of a character suddengly deciding to say information vital to the plot that they could have said way earlier and there is no real excuse for why they didn't say it either
with IF I criticized the fact that the actual plots were very interesting but they didn't develop them which annoyed me, for this anime, the plots have no depth and they have no develepoment idk what's worse tbh
like the plot points are so weird, there is one character that just does weird sounds from time to time and another characters find this mildy annoying so they get this other character to kinda hit them or whatever when they did the sound so they would stop making it which is an awful idea tbh and that shit gets more screentime that it deserves
this anime also dares to have emotional moments, like, you understand that this is a sad scene but I have 0 attachement to any of the characters or even the plot required to actually hit a emotional string in me, so i'm just sitting there like i'm sorry that happened/I'm happy for you I guess??????????
the only reason I got through this anime is because I just searched for the dub version and put in the second monitor while I did more interesting things in the first
Placed in D tier
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next: Kaiju No. 8
edit:
turns out aireunaeus hasn't even seen the anime LMAO
Pretty ass (sorry aireunaeus)
I remember EBLF telling me about this anime when I was ranting about IF, saying that this anime was somehow less focused, and they were right
Visual novels are really long games, and most of them are basically glorified dating sims, you talk to one girl a lot so you end up doing the route of that girl where you learn about her backstory, help her out and maybe there is also one or two sex scenes. Animes are a linear genre, so, when you try to adapt a game that is supposed to have decisions and route into another medium which doesn't have decisions and you're also trying to fit it in a much smaller runtime you need to know how to do it, and this anime just didn't know how to do it (that or the VN is also ass I haven't played it)
This anime has SO many plotpoints and none of them are explored, do you know how with the OT!Book I criticized ther being like 20 chapters of characters introduction? that also happens here, the first 3 chapters or so are just introductions, and then, like the OT book, none of those characters are developed
this anime skips from introductions straight to the ending, whenever the first arc of the anime got "resolved" I was so confused because like, nothing had really happened, i'm being honest, the protagonist just stood there doing nothing and things kinda solved themselves?, the worst part is that after that arc stopped we move to a entirerily different setting where we have MORE introductions and then the same thing happens
The way the story develops really isn't natural, feels very forced at points, of a character suddengly deciding to say information vital to the plot that they could have said way earlier and there is no real excuse for why they didn't say it either
with IF I criticized the fact that the actual plots were very interesting but they didn't develop them which annoyed me, for this anime, the plots have no depth and they have no develepoment idk what's worse tbh
like the plot points are so weird, there is one character that just does weird sounds from time to time and another characters find this mildy annoying so they get this other character to kinda hit them or whatever when they did the sound so they would stop making it which is an awful idea tbh and that shit gets more screentime that it deserves
this anime also dares to have emotional moments, like, you understand that this is a sad scene but I have 0 attachement to any of the characters or even the plot required to actually hit a emotional string in me, so i'm just sitting there like i'm sorry that happened/I'm happy for you I guess??????????
the only reason I got through this anime is because I just searched for the dub version and put in the second monitor while I did more interesting things in the first
Placed in D tier
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next: Kaiju No. 8
edit:
turns out aireunaeus hasn't even seen the anime LMAO
Topic Starter
you're going to have to link it because I have no clue what you're refeering tosametdze wrote:
review "cowboy gladiator"
do you still remember all the shit you played so far?
Topic Starter
yesPolyspora wrote:
do you still remember all the shit you played so far?
Patatitta wrote:
turns out aireunaeus hasn't even seen the anime LMAO
i think aireu just want to troll us
Topic Starter
i'm going to murder you and all of your familyreffty_gag wrote:
Patatitta wrote:
turns out aireunaeus hasn't even seen the anime LMAO
i think aireu just want to troll us
no.Patatitta wrote:
i'm going to murder you and all of your familyreffty_gag wrote:
Patatitta wrote:
turns out aireunaeus hasn't even seen the anime LMAO
i think aireu just want to troll us
I second this.Patatitta wrote:
i'm going to murder you and all of your familyreffty_gag wrote:
Patatitta wrote:
turns out aireunaeus hasn't even seen the anime LMAO
i think aireu just want to troll us
Topic Starter
Kaiju No. 8
Not good
it's about a guy fight against kaijus that obtains the power totransform into one. The first couple episodes showed potential, but then it just became a very generic shounen
The first arc of the anime is about the guy trying to get into the actual organization to fight kaijus (kinda like the start of hunter x hunter), thing is, the guy was pathetically weak, and instead had dedicated their life up to that point to dissect kaijus, so they had a lot of theorical knowledge on biology. The guy goes, if I can't get in the organization due to me being weak physically, I will help from the side with my knowledge. This is actually a really solid plot
Having an anime that actually goes in depth about the structure of military organizations and the glorification of pure physical power both in the actual institution and in the medium of anime is an engaging storyline, you could in that scenario also explore the ego of the characters and a lot of cool shit
However, that doesn't happen, the guy gets in for reasons unrelated to their theorical knowledge and then just starts beating up guys with their kaiju powers with no sort of strategy or nuance to it, completely forgot what they had said a few chapters earlier, resorting to many tropes that you have seen before and just overall becoming very boring
in the end, even the characters who weren't relevant because of their strength, ended up becoming relevant because of their strength, just that they were hiding it or became more powerful at a point of the anime or something along those lines
this anime doesn't dare to do anything remotely interesting, it's just more cool ass guys beating up monsters
The end speech also made like 0 sense with the context of the rest of the anime, it's just a supposedly motivational speech and whatever but if you stop to think about it for like 5 seconds you would see that they're using the world must unconvincing argument ever
placed in D tier
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next: total recall
still playing GTA IV, mixed about it but will keep playing it
Not good
it's about a guy fight against kaijus that obtains the power totransform into one. The first couple episodes showed potential, but then it just became a very generic shounen
The first arc of the anime is about the guy trying to get into the actual organization to fight kaijus (kinda like the start of hunter x hunter), thing is, the guy was pathetically weak, and instead had dedicated their life up to that point to dissect kaijus, so they had a lot of theorical knowledge on biology. The guy goes, if I can't get in the organization due to me being weak physically, I will help from the side with my knowledge. This is actually a really solid plot
Having an anime that actually goes in depth about the structure of military organizations and the glorification of pure physical power both in the actual institution and in the medium of anime is an engaging storyline, you could in that scenario also explore the ego of the characters and a lot of cool shit
However, that doesn't happen, the guy gets in for reasons unrelated to their theorical knowledge and then just starts beating up guys with their kaiju powers with no sort of strategy or nuance to it, completely forgot what they had said a few chapters earlier, resorting to many tropes that you have seen before and just overall becoming very boring
in the end, even the characters who weren't relevant because of their strength, ended up becoming relevant because of their strength, just that they were hiding it or became more powerful at a point of the anime or something along those lines
this anime doesn't dare to do anything remotely interesting, it's just more cool ass guys beating up monsters
The end speech also made like 0 sense with the context of the rest of the anime, it's just a supposedly motivational speech and whatever but if you stop to think about it for like 5 seconds you would see that they're using the world must unconvincing argument ever
placed in D tier
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next: total recall
still playing GTA IV, mixed about it but will keep playing it
watch akagi
yesPatatitta wrote:
this?igorsprite wrote:
watch akagi
Topic Starter
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
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next: akagi
still playing gta IV
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
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next: akagi
still playing gta IV
holy shit thanks for reminding me of this movie, it was so goofy and funPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
can you do thank you isekai, it's a manga
Topic Starter
this?DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
holy shit thanks for reminding me of this movie, it was so goofy and funPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
can you do thank you isekai, it's a manga
yesPatatitta wrote:
this?DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
holy shit thanks for reminding me of this movie, it was so goofy and funPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
can you do thank you isekai, it's a manga
Topic Starter
will doDM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
yesPatatitta wrote:
this?DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
holy shit thanks for reminding me of this movie, it was so goofy and funPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
can you do thank you isekai, it's a manga
I'm putting 20 bucks on d tierPatatitta wrote:
will doDM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
yesPatatitta wrote:
this?DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
holy shit thanks for reminding me of this movie, it was so goofy and funPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
can you do thank you isekai, it's a manga
Wow surprised you didn't talk about the lady with 3 boobsPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
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next: akagi
still playing gta IV
Next I'm requesting a nightmare on elm street (1984)
Topic Starter
I didn't have anything to say about that scene lmao, also, if I recall correctly in the movie "paul" a comic the guy drew about a woman with 3 breasts was a big plot point, that movie sucked ass thoMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
Wow surprised you didn't talk about the lady with 3 boobsPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
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next: akagi
still playing gta IV
Next I'm requesting a nightmare on elm street (1984)
also, idk about watching that one, i'm not really into slashers and there are like 9 movies of this
No I'm just talking abt the 1st one bcz that's the only one I've seenPatatitta wrote:
I didn't have anything to say about that scene lmao, also, if I recall correctly in the movie "paul" a comic the guy drew about a woman with 3 breasts was a big plot point, that movie sucked ass thoMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
Wow surprised you didn't talk about the lady with 3 boobsPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
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next: akagi
still playing gta IV
Next I'm requesting a nightmare on elm street (1984)
also, idk about watching that one, i'm not really into slashers and there are like 9 movies of this
Review the opening ceremony of the Olympics Games at Paris 2024
olympics are a disease for a country with social problems, great portion of the tax money goes to a show that people will forget next year, creating a big deficit for the coming what? 2-5 years?Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Review the opening ceremony of the Olympics Games at Paris 2024
Topic Starter
denied, what is there to really talk about there?, what is of interest to me?Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Review the opening ceremony of the Olympics Games at Paris 2024
I guess I will do it but just letting you know it's not escaping D tierMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
No I'm just talking abt the 1st one bcz that's the only one I've seenPatatitta wrote:
I didn't have anything to say about that scene lmao, also, if I recall correctly in the movie "paul" a comic the guy drew about a woman with 3 breasts was a big plot point, that movie sucked ass thoMaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
Wow surprised you didn't talk about the lady with 3 boobsPatatitta wrote:
Total Recall
more like, I totally can't recall any clever puns using the title as a base
total recall is an 1990 science fiction action movie staring schwarzenegger about a guy who goes to an agency that sells memory, and tries to buy memories of being a super cool spy in mars
the movie had a single objective, and that was to make schwarzenegger look cool and sexy, and they accomplished that, literally the first scene is the guy waking up and a girl going like I want to have so much sex with you and then starting 30 minutes into the movie he just starts killing people with blood everywhere it's just a very manly movie
thing is, audiences back then were really into this shit, schwazenegger was a total celebrity and people were really down bad for him, but now, that we're kinda out of that culturar phenomenon, the reason why this movie stays relevant to this day is the practical effects, this movie had barely no CGI, they used other methods to get all the effects they wanted, and originality of it and the way they look is the main appeal of the movie now
thing is, for me, that alone cant really carry the entire movie, it looks good sure, but idk, I don't really like the action that much
placed in d tier
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next: akagi
still playing gta IV
Next I'm requesting a nightmare on elm street (1984)
also, idk about watching that one, i'm not really into slashers and there are like 9 movies of this
ik ur not done with my request yet but could you add azumanga daioh to the queue
Topic Starter
dont worry, you can request multiple things at once even, I don't mind the list becoming long, also lucky for you, I have already watched azumanga daiohLapizote wrote:
ik ur not done with my request yet but could you add azumanga daioh to the queue
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I'm mixed on azumanga daioh, on one hand it's undoubtedly a pretty good anime which basically created the slice of life/school/comedy genre, on the other hand, I don't like how azumanga daioh is percieved by the internet today.
Azumanga daioh, the manga, actually came out in 1999 and it was a hit, the manga follows a 4koma format, which has existed long before azumanga, but I think azumanga does one of the best uses for it's time. A 4koma is a way of drawing manga where you have two columns with 4 panels each. azumanga daioh, being a comedy, uses every strip as way to set up a then perform a joke or a gag.
This is actually something that also existed in europe and america in the newspaper, I think the most obvious example of this is garfield, which had 3 panels strips, although, azumanga daioh was able to easily avoid some of the mistakes garfield had. First of all, making it happen on a school is genious, it's a low stakes environment where you can just see the characters interacting with each other and making jokes, while still having enough diversity of scenarios to make things interesting, and, also very important, the actual graduation marks a natural end for the work. Compare this to garfield and the difference is obvious, garfield can be pretty boring with it's scenarios, it runs forever, and it has less of a plot compared to azumanga daioh.
After that, this was translated into anime, which, even if a little less beloved than the manga, it also proved that adapting this type of work could be really successful, which would help launching the genre. The actual setting of the anime allowed them to have control over the pacing of the jokes, however, none of the jokes relied on timing too hard as well, it was first a manga.
All of the things that azumanga daioh does, while being standard today, were pretty new for it's time, and while it's not really peak, it's still enjoyable today.
So, what is the perception of azumanga daioh today?, a very solid anime beloved for pushing the genre it was part of forward?, fuck no, a clip of an azumanga daioh gag got popular online and that's about it
The reason azumanga daioh it's known for are like 3 jokes that osaka does over the course of the anime
I don't like this. I guess that it's better than it falling into obscurity, but I don't think this is nearly making justice to the anime, and it also showcases a side to the internet I really dislike
Since the point were that azumanga daioh clip went viral, I've had multiple friends try to recommend me to watch azumanga daioh, even while I had already read it and acutally talked to them about the anime a year or so prior, or even a real life friend of mine saying they were going to watch it because they thought I was a really big fan of it, and while I do like it, it's not an anime I would recommend as there are better things nowadays
I hate how meme culture has kinda warped the public perception of certain works of fiction like azumanga daioh or serial experiments lain, we seem to have a mindset that if something has a lot of memes, it must be good, that's the reason sony released morbious for the second time
Nowadays, you first see the meme, you laugh at the meme, and then you MAYBE watch the anime with the acutal mindset of the meme and the culture around it, which it's a VERY distorted way of actually looking at the anime
You cant and should not take memes as an indicator of what to watch. Honestly, I kinda dislike the idea of just finishing a movie or an anime and then immediatly googling memes for it (i've seen people do this even from before they have finished watching it and got spoiled...), since it really distorts the view of the anime
we're also in a similar situation to bocchi the rock, where all the glory instead of being directed to the fact that slice of life anime can be really good, the actuall anime is treated as an exception to the norm, so not that many people that have seen bocchi or azumanga daioh and enjoyed it have transitioned to actually watching more of the genre
anyways, for as much as I hate the public perception, the anime is still good, placed at A rank.
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still playing gta IV
still watching akagi, may still take me like 3/4 days or so.
Topic Starter
WAIT HOLY FUCKING SHIT, I did not remember what your other request was, I looked at it while I was editing the OP to change the tier list and stuff and I realized I HAD finished the book, but completely forgot to make the post about it even if I have thought extensively about it in the shower, I'm making another post and not editing this since i'm afraid of you seeing the original post and not realizing I've edited it like 20 minutes later
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Bluets
ngl I don't really get this book
Bluets is a poetry collection about the thoughts of a woman on the topic of the color blue. Even if it's poety, it's written on prose
I don't mind it being in prose, I think it works well for what the book is aiming to do which is kinda show literally what her actual thoughts on the color blue are, I feel that if you were it to write it a traditional poetry book, it would kinda remove that naturality that the book has, which would make the book worse IMO
now, for the actual contents of the book, while the book does talk extensively about the color blue, the way I percieve it is that the color blue isn't the direct focus of the book, but so more a device to allow her to talk about certain topics like the love or the actual act of writing the book.
This is where my actual complaints of the book come into play, while the actual short sentences and paragraphs are thought provoking, even while thinking hard about them, I haven't really been able to reach any interesting conclusion, there isn't really much that I hadn't thought before reading the book, while it does give you the sensation of it being thought provoking, it really doesn't guide torwards any conclusion, you just kinda read it, go "huh", and move on.
I think that there are many other books that carry with them more interesting ideas, so yeah, this books kinda feel pointless?, I could sit and analyze it line by line, but what would that accomplish? I could just do that same process on another book I feel it's more interesting
The book has like 3-4 train of ideas which all mix together, so you're kinda switching from topic to topic and back. The reason why the book feels so chaotic is because the actual author scrambled the pages around, I don't really get this part really
what does that accomplish?, sure, it makes reading it more confusing and chaotic, an idea that popped to my head of why this is this way it's because it makes it feel more realistic, same reason why I feel the prose works well, but this isn't really the case?, if the author didn't write it in that order, the actual scrambling of it makes it seem less realistic, not more, and while being confusing can be good, as I said earlier, I don't think that this books really benefits for it because the actual core is empty
idk, placed at D tier
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next: thank you, isekai!
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Bluets
ngl I don't really get this book
Bluets is a poetry collection about the thoughts of a woman on the topic of the color blue. Even if it's poety, it's written on prose
I don't mind it being in prose, I think it works well for what the book is aiming to do which is kinda show literally what her actual thoughts on the color blue are, I feel that if you were it to write it a traditional poetry book, it would kinda remove that naturality that the book has, which would make the book worse IMO
now, for the actual contents of the book, while the book does talk extensively about the color blue, the way I percieve it is that the color blue isn't the direct focus of the book, but so more a device to allow her to talk about certain topics like the love or the actual act of writing the book.
This is where my actual complaints of the book come into play, while the actual short sentences and paragraphs are thought provoking, even while thinking hard about them, I haven't really been able to reach any interesting conclusion, there isn't really much that I hadn't thought before reading the book, while it does give you the sensation of it being thought provoking, it really doesn't guide torwards any conclusion, you just kinda read it, go "huh", and move on.
I think that there are many other books that carry with them more interesting ideas, so yeah, this books kinda feel pointless?, I could sit and analyze it line by line, but what would that accomplish? I could just do that same process on another book I feel it's more interesting
The book has like 3-4 train of ideas which all mix together, so you're kinda switching from topic to topic and back. The reason why the book feels so chaotic is because the actual author scrambled the pages around, I don't really get this part really
what does that accomplish?, sure, it makes reading it more confusing and chaotic, an idea that popped to my head of why this is this way it's because it makes it feel more realistic, same reason why I feel the prose works well, but this isn't really the case?, if the author didn't write it in that order, the actual scrambling of it makes it seem less realistic, not more, and while being confusing can be good, as I said earlier, I don't think that this books really benefits for it because the actual core is empty
idk, placed at D tier
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next: thank you, isekai!
thanks for actually getting thru that even if it confused the hell out of you - love to see other perspectivesPatatitta wrote:
big textWAIT HOLY FUCKING SHIT, I did not remember what your other request was, I looked at it while I was editing the OP to change the tier list and stuff and I realized I HAD finished the book, but completely forgot to make the post about it even if I have thought extensively about it in the shower, I'm making another post and not editing this since i'm afraid of you seeing the original post and not realizing I've edited it like 20 minutes later
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Bluets
ngl I don't really get this book
Bluets is a poetry collection about the thoughts of a woman on the topic of the color blue. Even if it's poety, it's written on prose
I don't mind it being in prose, I think it works well for what the book is aiming to do which is kinda show literally what her actual thoughts on the color blue are, I feel that if you were it to write it a traditional poetry book, it would kinda remove that naturality that the book has, which would make the book worse IMO
now, for the actual contents of the book, while the book does talk extensively about the color blue, the way I percieve it is that the color blue isn't the direct focus of the book, but so more a device to allow her to talk about certain topics like the love or the actual act of writing the book.
This is where my actual complaints of the book come into play, while the actual short sentences and paragraphs are thought provoking, even while thinking hard about them, I haven't really been able to reach any interesting conclusion, there isn't really much that I hadn't thought before reading the book, while it does give you the sensation of it being thought provoking, it really doesn't guide torwards any conclusion, you just kinda read it, go "huh", and move on.
I think that there are many other books that carry with them more interesting ideas, so yeah, this books kinda feel pointless?, I could sit and analyze it line by line, but what would that accomplish? I could just do that same process on another book I feel it's more interesting
The book has like 3-4 train of ideas which all mix together, so you're kinda switching from topic to topic and back. The reason why the book feels so chaotic is because the actual author scrambled the pages around, I don't really get this part really
what does that accomplish?, sure, it makes reading it more confusing and chaotic, an idea that popped to my head of why this is this way it's because it makes it feel more realistic, same reason why I feel the prose works well, but this isn't really the case?, if the author didn't write it in that order, the actual scrambling of it makes it seem less realistic, not more, and while being confusing can be good, as I said earlier, I don't think that this books really benefits for it because the actual core is empty
idk, placed at D tier
just gonna share some thoughts of mine, maybe you'd find it interesting
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honestly what made the book most appealing to me in the first place was not in the meaning nor the conclusion, but rather because of the experience that i felt through just reading it
(being written as a stream of consciousness type thing) its like a little unstable lsd trip or like listening to a friend under the influence yap to you while you're sleep deprived at 3 am - everytime i read it i was sent in a sort of a trance. (fun fact: the author was under the influence when she wrote this book)
also i dont think there really is an intended meaning/conclusion that the book guides you towards - the reader is really left with the (optional) task of picking up whatever conclusions they can gather from the mess. there is validity in your statement that it is pointless, because it really is. makes it derridian in a sense.
would there be other books that tackle similar themes in a clearer manner? definitely. would they give the same experience as bluets? i kinda doubt it.
idk maybe what im saying isnt really making sense, ig what i can just say is that i enjoyed the book for no logical reason whatsoever. its kinda like the fascination that i have with artists like playboi carti who dont really have anything of value to say in their music or intentional godawful music like trout mask replica.
(being written as a stream of consciousness type thing) its like a little unstable lsd trip or like listening to a friend under the influence yap to you while you're sleep deprived at 3 am - everytime i read it i was sent in a sort of a trance. (fun fact: the author was under the influence when she wrote this book)
also i dont think there really is an intended meaning/conclusion that the book guides you towards - the reader is really left with the (optional) task of picking up whatever conclusions they can gather from the mess. there is validity in your statement that it is pointless, because it really is. makes it derridian in a sense.
would there be other books that tackle similar themes in a clearer manner? definitely. would they give the same experience as bluets? i kinda doubt it.
idk maybe what im saying isnt really making sense, ig what i can just say is that i enjoyed the book for no logical reason whatsoever. its kinda like the fascination that i have with artists like playboi carti who dont really have anything of value to say in their music or intentional godawful music like trout mask replica.
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I get what you mean, that the book is more about the experience than anything else, but I don't really agree with it either, there are books out there that offer the same confusion and experience that aren't empty, that have interesting ideas, so while would you choose to read an empty book over one that is actually interesting beyond the surface level?Lapizote wrote:
thanks for actually getting thru that even if it confused the hell out of you - love to see other perspectivesPatatitta wrote:
big textWAIT HOLY FUCKING SHIT, I did not remember what your other request was, I looked at it while I was editing the OP to change the tier list and stuff and I realized I HAD finished the book, but completely forgot to make the post about it even if I have thought extensively about it in the shower, I'm making another post and not editing this since i'm afraid of you seeing the original post and not realizing I've edited it like 20 minutes later
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Bluets
ngl I don't really get this book
Bluets is a poetry collection about the thoughts of a woman on the topic of the color blue. Even if it's poety, it's written on prose
I don't mind it being in prose, I think it works well for what the book is aiming to do which is kinda show literally what her actual thoughts on the color blue are, I feel that if you were it to write it a traditional poetry book, it would kinda remove that naturality that the book has, which would make the book worse IMO
now, for the actual contents of the book, while the book does talk extensively about the color blue, the way I percieve it is that the color blue isn't the direct focus of the book, but so more a device to allow her to talk about certain topics like the love or the actual act of writing the book.
This is where my actual complaints of the book come into play, while the actual short sentences and paragraphs are thought provoking, even while thinking hard about them, I haven't really been able to reach any interesting conclusion, there isn't really much that I hadn't thought before reading the book, while it does give you the sensation of it being thought provoking, it really doesn't guide torwards any conclusion, you just kinda read it, go "huh", and move on.
I think that there are many other books that carry with them more interesting ideas, so yeah, this books kinda feel pointless?, I could sit and analyze it line by line, but what would that accomplish? I could just do that same process on another book I feel it's more interesting
The book has like 3-4 train of ideas which all mix together, so you're kinda switching from topic to topic and back. The reason why the book feels so chaotic is because the actual author scrambled the pages around, I don't really get this part really
what does that accomplish?, sure, it makes reading it more confusing and chaotic, an idea that popped to my head of why this is this way it's because it makes it feel more realistic, same reason why I feel the prose works well, but this isn't really the case?, if the author didn't write it in that order, the actual scrambling of it makes it seem less realistic, not more, and while being confusing can be good, as I said earlier, I don't think that this books really benefits for it because the actual core is empty
idk, placed at D tier
just gonna share some thoughts of mine, maybe you'd find it interestingmore texthonestly what made the book most appealing to me in the first place was not in the meaning nor the conclusion, but rather because of the experience that i felt through just reading it
(being written as a stream of consciousness type thing) its like a little unstable lsd trip or like listening to a friend under the influence yap to you while you're sleep deprived at 3 am - everytime i read it i was sent in a sort of a trance. (fun fact: the author was under the influence when she wrote this book)
also i dont think there really is an intended meaning/conclusion that the book guides you towards - the reader is really left with the (optional) task of picking up whatever conclusions they can gather from the mess. there is validity in your statement that it is pointless, because it really is. makes it derridian in a sense.
would there be other books that tackle similar themes in a clearer manner? definitely. would they give the same experience as bluets? i kinda doubt it.
idk maybe what im saying isnt really making sense, ig what i can just say is that i enjoyed the book for no logical reason whatsoever. its kinda like the fascination that i have with artists like playboi carti who dont really have anything of value to say in their music or intentional godawful music like trout mask replica.
the emptiness is part of the appeal to me - though im unable to actually identify specifically why (maybe i find the exercise of the aforementioned picking up from something pointless to be fun? or maybe it leads to a thought exercise in aestheticism that i am not philosophically well-read enough to actually discuss about) sorry i dont really have a satisfying answer for this.Patatitta wrote:
I get what you mean, that the book is more about the experience than anything else, but I don't really agree with it either, there are books out there that offer the same confusion and experience that aren't empty, that have interesting ideas, so while would you choose to read an empty book over one that is actually interesting beyond the surface level?
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Thank you, Isekai! (read all that was published to this point, since it's still ongoing)
This is somehow better than I expected and worse than I expected, both at the same time.
Thank you isekai is a manga about two people that die at a highschool reunion party due to alcohol poisoning that are reborn in a isekai world as the opposite gender, and surprisingly, the setting isn't bad at all. The actual art is pretty good, and there are a couple scenes that you can feel like the story is actually trying to pull of something cool, however, I feel it completely fumbles the execution
While the art is good, it's never given space to flourish, the manga never relies on it's good art like a shinichi sakamoto would, every individual panel is detailed and nice, but it never produces any individual panel that is really impactful to you, no real moment in the manga is elevated by the art, it just doesn't take advantage of it, this is better than if they didn't have good art at all, but I believe it's missed potential.
Now, what I don't like about this manga and honestly the whole reason keeping this down, it cant help itself but be extremely sexual for no reason at all. It relies WAYYYYY too hard on sex appeal, and it's not even like regular fanservice, but more there are like 3 scenes about rape so far, there is also a scene involving a gloryhole and some other stuff too, there is also basically no plot.
However, inside that mess there is actually a really great moment that would actually have been very good if the rest of the manga were different. After some time has happened and the protagonists have gone over the shock and dopamine of being in a isekai world, one of the protagonist gets fairly depressed about having died in the real world and being turned into a girl, they end up developing a very pessimistic and nihilistic view of things, and basically decide to sell themselve for sex work. Although, the other protagonist accidently walks into them and some random dude they picked up from the street about to have sex and forces them to not do it.
This scene is actually good, it's the first time any of those themes are brought up in the manga, it would have been pretty impactful if the earlier part of the manga had been done better, the idea of being reborn in a isekai world as a girl, being happy for a while, until that happiness slowly fades away and are forced to live with the knowledge of having died in the real world while also tackling the dysphoria inherent to being turned the opposite sex in a medieval fantasy scenario is a really good one, but they just don't want to do it, the author doesn't seem to write a story like that
That scene doesn't seem to have any weight for the rest of the story, it just tries to move into a more generic type of isekai once again, all the sexual mentions moving forwards are also done in pretty bad taste and with none of the nuances of that one scene, just going back to fetishizing lesbians and whatever.
I do think the writer and illustrator have the potential to write a REALLY good story in general, they have good art and while even trying to do something commercial and generic it did flash peak fiction for a moment, they're just too blinded by their own boner to realize that potential
so yeah, this sadly goes in D tier
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nothing on the reading list
still playing gta
close to finishing akagi, I may be able to finish it tomorrow
This is somehow better than I expected and worse than I expected, both at the same time.
Thank you isekai is a manga about two people that die at a highschool reunion party due to alcohol poisoning that are reborn in a isekai world as the opposite gender, and surprisingly, the setting isn't bad at all. The actual art is pretty good, and there are a couple scenes that you can feel like the story is actually trying to pull of something cool, however, I feel it completely fumbles the execution
While the art is good, it's never given space to flourish, the manga never relies on it's good art like a shinichi sakamoto would, every individual panel is detailed and nice, but it never produces any individual panel that is really impactful to you, no real moment in the manga is elevated by the art, it just doesn't take advantage of it, this is better than if they didn't have good art at all, but I believe it's missed potential.
Now, what I don't like about this manga and honestly the whole reason keeping this down, it cant help itself but be extremely sexual for no reason at all. It relies WAYYYYY too hard on sex appeal, and it's not even like regular fanservice, but more there are like 3 scenes about rape so far, there is also a scene involving a gloryhole and some other stuff too, there is also basically no plot.
However, inside that mess there is actually a really great moment that would actually have been very good if the rest of the manga were different. After some time has happened and the protagonists have gone over the shock and dopamine of being in a isekai world, one of the protagonist gets fairly depressed about having died in the real world and being turned into a girl, they end up developing a very pessimistic and nihilistic view of things, and basically decide to sell themselve for sex work. Although, the other protagonist accidently walks into them and some random dude they picked up from the street about to have sex and forces them to not do it.
This scene is actually good, it's the first time any of those themes are brought up in the manga, it would have been pretty impactful if the earlier part of the manga had been done better, the idea of being reborn in a isekai world as a girl, being happy for a while, until that happiness slowly fades away and are forced to live with the knowledge of having died in the real world while also tackling the dysphoria inherent to being turned the opposite sex in a medieval fantasy scenario is a really good one, but they just don't want to do it, the author doesn't seem to write a story like that
That scene doesn't seem to have any weight for the rest of the story, it just tries to move into a more generic type of isekai once again, all the sexual mentions moving forwards are also done in pretty bad taste and with none of the nuances of that one scene, just going back to fetishizing lesbians and whatever.
I do think the writer and illustrator have the potential to write a REALLY good story in general, they have good art and while even trying to do something commercial and generic it did flash peak fiction for a moment, they're just too blinded by their own boner to realize that potential
so yeah, this sadly goes in D tier
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nothing on the reading list
still playing gta
close to finishing akagi, I may be able to finish it tomorrow
At least I guessed where you'll put it correctly lolPatatitta wrote:
Thank you, Isekai! (read all that was published to this point, since it's still ongoing)
This is somehow better than I expected and worse than I expected, both at the same time.
Thank you isekai is a manga about two people that die at a highschool reunion party due to alcohol poisoning that are reborn in a isekai world as the opposite gender, and surprisingly, the setting isn't bad at all. The actual art is pretty good, and there are a couple scenes that you can feel like the story is actually trying to pull of something cool, however, I feel it completely fumbles the execution
While the art is good, it's never given space to flourish, the manga never relies on it's good art like a shinichi sakamoto would, every individual panel is detailed and nice, but it never produces any individual panel that is really impactful to you, no real moment in the manga is elevated by the art, it just doesn't take advantage of it, this is better than if they didn't have good art at all, but I believe it's missed potential.
Now, what I don't like about this manga and honestly the whole reason keeping this down, it cant help itself but be extremely sexual for no reason at all. It relies WAYYYYY too hard on sex appeal, and it's not even like regular fanservice, but more there are like 3 scenes about rape so far, there is also a scene involving a gloryhole and some other stuff too, there is also basically no plot.
However, inside that mess there is actually a really great moment that would actually have been very good if the rest of the manga were different. After some time has happened and the protagonists have gone over the shock and dopamine of being in a isekai world, one of the protagonist gets fairly depressed about having died in the real world and being turned into a girl, they end up developing a very pessimistic and nihilistic view of things, and basically decide to sell themselve for sex work. Although, the other protagonist accidently walks into them and some random dude they picked up from the street about to have sex and forces them to not do it.
This scene is actually good, it's the first time any of those themes are brought up in the manga, it would have been pretty impactful if the earlier part of the manga had been done better, the idea of being reborn in a isekai world as a girl, being happy for a while, until that happiness slowly fades away and are forced to live with the knowledge of having died in the real world while also tackling the dysphoria inherent to being turned the opposite sex in a medieval fantasy scenario is a really good one, but they just don't want to do it, the author doesn't seem to write a story like that
That scene doesn't seem to have any weight for the rest of the story, it just tries to move into a more generic type of isekai once again, all the sexual mentions moving forwards are also done in pretty bad taste and with none of the nuances of that one scene, just going back to fetishizing lesbians and whatever.
I do think the writer and illustrator have the potential to write a REALLY good story in general, they have good art and while even trying to do something commercial and generic it did flash peak fiction for a moment, they're just too blinded by their own boner to realize that potential
so yeah, this sadly goes in D tier
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nothing on the reading list
still playing gta
close to finishing akagi, I may be able to finish it tomorrow
I think I might be the only one in existence who glazes this manga 😭
Not only is in not that highly regarded in general, but there's like no-one talking about it online, which is kinda why I wanted to see your thoughts on it. Maybe this is just an excuse for me to talk about it as well.
I expected the weird sexual elements of this manga to be the main complaint, like yeah it's kinda horny with some really weird scenes. I feel like from what I read this is what a lot of people didn't like about the manga as well, and for very good reason. Idk why it didn't bother me that much though, maybe because this didn't feel that out of place with a lot of other stuff I've come across, and at least this has a huge leg up by not being explicitly about minors at least.
I think the problem with the sexual elements here is that it doesn't feel like it's done in a way in which it feels like you're supposed to particularly enjoy (at least I hope), like it's not done in a way to have the reader enjoy it sexually or to explore any really interesting ideas (for the most part), just kinda for shock value and humour which could've been achieved without this much sexual stuff, yet it still goes quite far in spite of that. Add onto that how the original owners of the body are established as proper, independent characters that are likely to appear later, and their bodies being portrayed sexually without their consent or knowledge or anything (without it even being addressed in the manga, or at least I don't remember it being a big thing) feels very icky and in bad taste. In spite of me saying all this I still don't really know why it didn't bother me that much, maybe it's just that I enjoyed everything else to the point where I could overlook this aspect of the manga.
One thing I didn't think about before was how you said that there was this one great moment and that it would've been cool to explore more of that, and honestly I agree. But I also feel like it would go against what the manga is trying to be, like you can't really have a fun isekai adventure if you are constantly experiencing dysphoria with your situation.
Like I disagree that it fumbles with the execution, because what it was trying to execute was basically "what if we took isekai and made it actually good and interesting while still keeping the spirit of isekai" and it nails that imo.
I really feel like this pulls away from the other isekai out there because instead of just going to some generic isekai world with some generic isekai power and having some generic isekai adventure and there's a ton of cute girls for some reason, I feel like the author tried to approach isekai from a more grounded, realistic angle. For the main characters the world isn't everything open to them to do whatever, it's a struggle just like how anyone would struggle going to a different world. They're (I forgot their names lol) not equally fortunate with the bodies they were given, just like if any two people were reincarnated into two random bodies, they would also be far from equal. Of course you'd wonder about what happened to you in your original body and are shook that you died, and of course you'd wonder about who's body you'd taken. Even the sexual stuff to some extent, if a straight non-asexual male was reincarnated to a girl yeah they'd get horny. It feels like the author thought of isekai concepts and went "hmm, what would it actually be like", and it's incredibly refreshing and makes everything feel so much more engaging, I remember there being so many interesting moments watching two people believably explore and navigate an isekai world.
Yet at the same time it's all about the isekai experience, that sense of adventure and the new beginning that isekai are about, and which the main characters strive and work hard for. A big theme is the character's own relationship with isekai and fantasy, especially with things like the magic system being the one the elf came up with as a kid, and him as a teen rejecting that magic system which is reflected as him losing a bunch of his power, it feels like an intimate exploration of this person's relationship with fantasy in general.
As much as it subverts common isekai tropes it feels like a celebration and exploration of isekai and a work fully commited to enjoy isekai for what it is, which I think might be what the title is referring to. And that sense of adventure is so well captured, I remember being hooked to this reading late into the night and having proper manga withdrawal when I had to stop, something I don't really feel like I've felt in a long time, it really felt like I got swept into it.
I'd go as far to say that out of every isekai I've read (a fuckton) this and re zero (which also got a d lol) are the only two good isekai ever which actually properly utilise and explore the idea of an isekai.
And it's interesting that I'm kinda alone in this view, even the other positive reviews I've seen kinda amount to "yeah it's good" but with more words, and it feels like other people will briefly mention something like "it's a generic isekai" and then rag on it for other things.
Am I crazy or what, this is like the one manga/anime opinion that I feel like is completely unique to me, usually I fall really in line with popular opinions.
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I don't agree with your point, I think that if you're lookine for an isekai which objective is to be fun and nothing more you lave a lot better options to choose from
there are a few more scenes that try to tell something yeah, like that one you mentioned with the magic system, but I don't think it does a very good job at that, you craete the implications that part of the world was basically modeled by their own memories and life experiences, something that could carry the entire plot by it's own, yet, it's never really explored, it's mentioned but they never do anything interesting with it
I don't think this manga is subverting anything, it doesnt take advantage of you believing the manga is going to fall into certain tropes to then fuck you over, as it just does end up falling into all of thise tropes without much nuance
I think that isekai as a genre can host good anime, in fact, sonny boy can be legally considered an isekai and that anime is fucking crazy, but it just doesnt really a critical volume of works like that to really escape the criticism of the genre
there are a few more scenes that try to tell something yeah, like that one you mentioned with the magic system, but I don't think it does a very good job at that, you craete the implications that part of the world was basically modeled by their own memories and life experiences, something that could carry the entire plot by it's own, yet, it's never really explored, it's mentioned but they never do anything interesting with it
I don't think this manga is subverting anything, it doesnt take advantage of you believing the manga is going to fall into certain tropes to then fuck you over, as it just does end up falling into all of thise tropes without much nuance
I think that isekai as a genre can host good anime, in fact, sonny boy can be legally considered an isekai and that anime is fucking crazy, but it just doesnt really a critical volume of works like that to really escape the criticism of the genre
like what though, i would like to readPatatitta wrote:
I don't agree with your point, I think that if you're lookine for an isekai which objective is to be fun and nothing more you lave a lot better options to choose from
It was interesting to me, and because it's not finished and this feels like such a big underpinning idea I assume they'll go somewhere with thisPatatitta wrote:
there are a few more scenes that try to tell something yeah, like that one you mentioned with the magic system, but I don't think it does a very good job at that, you craete the implications that part of the world was basically modeled by their own memories and life experiences, something that could carry the entire plot by it's own, yet, it's never really explored, it's mentioned but they never do anything interesting with it
It felt subversive to me so yeah 👍Patatitta wrote:
I don't think this manga is subverting anything, it doesnt take advantage of you believing the manga is going to fall into certain tropes to then fuck you over, as it just does end up falling into all of thise tropes without much nuance
Well not entirely, but within the bounds of super generic isekai tropes if that makes sense, like it does all the tropes but in a fresh, interesting way that feels subversive because of the way they're explored in a grounded manner. Maybe what's actually feels subversive to me is this grounded/realistic perspective compared to how isekai generally present themselves, idk if I'm explaining it well.
Also can I request RRR (indian movie)
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DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
like what though, i would like to readPatatitta wrote:
I don't agree with your point, I think that if you're lookine for an isekai which objective is to be fun and nothing more you lave a lot better options to choose fromIt was interesting to me, and because it's not finished and this feels like such a big underpinning idea I assume they'll go somewhere with thisPatatitta wrote:
there are a few more scenes that try to tell something yeah, like that one you mentioned with the magic system, but I don't think it does a very good job at that, you craete the implications that part of the world was basically modeled by their own memories and life experiences, something that could carry the entire plot by it's own, yet, it's never really explored, it's mentioned but they never do anything interesting with itIt felt subversive to me so yeah 👍Patatitta wrote:
I don't think this manga is subverting anything, it doesnt take advantage of you believing the manga is going to fall into certain tropes to then fuck you over, as it just does end up falling into all of thise tropes without much nuance
Well not entirely, but within the bounds of super generic isekai tropes if that makes sense, like it does all the tropes but in a fresh, interesting way that feels subversive because of the way they're explored in a grounded manner. Maybe what's actually feels subversive to me is this grounded/realistic perspective compared to how isekai generally present themselves, idk if I'm explaining it well.
idk, I haven't really seen much isekai that i've enjoyed, but I guess reincarnated as a slime was nice, one of the first animes I watched
also yeah I get what you mean by subverting which is more like keeping the same old things fresh, but it's not personally my definition of subvertion, as an example of something I would call subvertion, currently i'm playing a videogame called "in stars and time". That game, has a core gameplay mechanic that basically every RPG has that while you stop and think about it is a plot hole, however, you ignore it since that is just how RPG games go, and then, like 15 hours into the game, that "plot hole" actually turns into a real plot point, which totally blew me away
also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
Also can I request RRR (indian movie)
Honestly I can see the fact that I've read and enjoyed so many shitty isekai a big reason why I enjoyed thisPatatitta wrote:
idk, I haven't really seen much isekai that i've enjoyed, but I guess reincarnated as a slime was nice, one of the first animes I watched
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess BPatatitta wrote:
also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D
Topic Starter
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess BPatatitta wrote:
also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D
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RRR
I have already seen it, it's peak fiction, you chose wrong.
RRR is an indian action movie, and I would argue it's my favourite action thing i've ever seen, while more american movies and stuff still try to be somewhat serious and grounded about their action, RRR just goes NUTS and it was way more enjoyable and fun and memorable than any other action film i've seen
The actual plot and story of RRR doesn't make much sense, it's over dramaticized version of a real historical period in india, and in fact, it has A LOT of historical inaccuracies, for xample, the two main protagonists, bheem and raju NEVER met IRL, but that's not the point of the movie. The movie only takes that setting because it fits, it has a lot of conflict and it gives them the creative freedom to do whatever they want in a setting familiar to the public, the point of RRR is to be a fun movie, and there are barely any other pieces of media that are as fun as RRR.
Every scene is the most shocking thing you've probably seen in a movie, but not in a gross way like if you're reading eroguro or something, the movie just goes deeper into over the top action than any other movie on eart. The shock comes from "I can't believe this is a real scene", like, the introduction of bheem is an aereal shot of the character in a jungle pouring blood on themselves just before getting into a fight with a tiger, like, that is NOT something that usually happens in movies, or that AMAZING dance scene that just comes out from nowhere and it's SO GOOD
I generally don't like action, I feel it's just kinda fluff that doesn't trigger any emotional response from me and doesn't really advance or improve anything that I do enjoy, however, RRR felt so surprising that I just couldn't help but be totally hooked on it
So, why has no american movie or any other movie dared to do what RRR does?, I believe that this is in part due to the way we interact with cinema here.
In american movies, often action is seen as one of the genres with most prestige, one of the most adult and serious ones, at the end of the day people die in the film, that is something that had to be censored in the past for being too explicit and not appropiate for audiences.
I don't think this holds up today tho, most action films are targeted to younger audiences even if they want to claim otherwise, even msot children shows have some sort of action since it's one of the most engaging genres, yet, due to us still seeing action as this "prestige" genre we can't really get too crazy about it, if a action movie is just mindless action and isn't grounded we consider it to be bad
but india?, we've been discriminating against indian cinema for ages now, they developed another culture, they don't have the same ideas around action that we do, so, they pushed it in another direction, and it just so happens that they were able to produce a movie so out there that even we couldn't ignore, and, yeah, it's fun
so yeah, RRR is an S tier
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still playing gta, still watching akagi, may not be able to finish it today
Holy based, my respect for you has peakedPatatitta wrote:
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess BPatatitta wrote:
also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D
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RRR
I have already seen it, it's peak fiction, you chose wrong.
RRR is an indian action movie, and I would argue it's my favourite action thing i've ever seen, while more american movies and stuff still try to be somewhat serious and grounded about their action, RRR just goes NUTS and it was way more enjoyable and fun and memorable than any other action film i've seen
The actual plot and story of RRR doesn't make much sense, it's over dramaticized version of a real historical period in india, and in fact, it has A LOT of historical inaccuracies, for xample, the two main protagonists, bheem and raju NEVER met IRL, but that's not the point of the movie. The movie only takes that setting because it fits, it has a lot of conflict and it gives them the creative freedom to do whatever they want in a setting familiar to the public, the point of RRR is to be a fun movie, and there are barely any other pieces of media that are as fun as RRR.
Every scene is the most shocking thing you've probably seen in a movie, but not in a gross way like if you're reading eroguro or something, the movie just goes deeper into over the top action than any other movie on eart. The shock comes from "I can't believe this is a real scene", like, the introduction of bheem is an aereal shot of the character in a jungle pouring blood on themselves just before getting into a fight with a tiger, like, that is NOT something that usually happens in movies, or that AMAZING dance scene that just comes out from nowhere and it's SO GOOD
I generally don't like action, I feel it's just kinda fluff that doesn't trigger any emotional response from me and doesn't really advance or improve anything that I do enjoy, however, RRR felt so surprising that I just couldn't help but be totally hooked on it
So, why has no american movie or any other movie dared to do what RRR does?, I believe that this is in part due to the way we interact with cinema here.
In american movies, often action is seen as one of the genres with most prestige, one of the most adult and serious ones, at the end of the day people die in the film, that is something that had to be censored in the past for being too explicit and not appropiate for audiences.
I don't think this holds up today tho, most action films are targeted to younger audiences even if they want to claim otherwise, even msot children shows have some sort of action since it's one of the most engaging genres, yet, due to us still seeing action as this "prestige" genre we can't really get too crazy about it, if a action movie is just mindless action and isn't grounded we consider it to be bad
but india?, we've been discriminating against indian cinema for ages now, they developed another culture, they don't have the same ideas around action that we do, so, they pushed it in another direction, and it just so happens that they were able to produce a movie so out there that even we couldn't ignore, and, yeah, it's fun
so yeah, RRR is an S tier
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still playing gta, still watching akagi, may not be able to finish it today
I literally pogged for 3 hours straight while watching this movie, but it's not an S for me, probably an A (same with Thank You Isekai)
Though I barely ever watch movies (rn I properly watch maybe 3-4 a year kinda incidentally) though so I don't really have a good idea of what I like and what I don't in movies.
I honestly thought that you wouldn't be that high on the action after total recall in D and that'd make it not S tier but I guess I was wrong
Topic Starter
total recall isn't particullary original or memorable, RRR isDM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
Holy based, my respect for you has peakedPatatitta wrote:
DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess BPatatitta wrote:
also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D
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RRR
I have already seen it, it's peak fiction, you chose wrong.
RRR is an indian action movie, and I would argue it's my favourite action thing i've ever seen, while more american movies and stuff still try to be somewhat serious and grounded about their action, RRR just goes NUTS and it was way more enjoyable and fun and memorable than any other action film i've seen
The actual plot and story of RRR doesn't make much sense, it's over dramaticized version of a real historical period in india, and in fact, it has A LOT of historical inaccuracies, for xample, the two main protagonists, bheem and raju NEVER met IRL, but that's not the point of the movie. The movie only takes that setting because it fits, it has a lot of conflict and it gives them the creative freedom to do whatever they want in a setting familiar to the public, the point of RRR is to be a fun movie, and there are barely any other pieces of media that are as fun as RRR.
Every scene is the most shocking thing you've probably seen in a movie, but not in a gross way like if you're reading eroguro or something, the movie just goes deeper into over the top action than any other movie on eart. The shock comes from "I can't believe this is a real scene", like, the introduction of bheem is an aereal shot of the character in a jungle pouring blood on themselves just before getting into a fight with a tiger, like, that is NOT something that usually happens in movies, or that AMAZING dance scene that just comes out from nowhere and it's SO GOOD
I generally don't like action, I feel it's just kinda fluff that doesn't trigger any emotional response from me and doesn't really advance or improve anything that I do enjoy, however, RRR felt so surprising that I just couldn't help but be totally hooked on it
So, why has no american movie or any other movie dared to do what RRR does?, I believe that this is in part due to the way we interact with cinema here.
In american movies, often action is seen as one of the genres with most prestige, one of the most adult and serious ones, at the end of the day people die in the film, that is something that had to be censored in the past for being too explicit and not appropiate for audiences.
I don't think this holds up today tho, most action films are targeted to younger audiences even if they want to claim otherwise, even msot children shows have some sort of action since it's one of the most engaging genres, yet, due to us still seeing action as this "prestige" genre we can't really get too crazy about it, if a action movie is just mindless action and isn't grounded we consider it to be bad
but india?, we've been discriminating against indian cinema for ages now, they developed another culture, they don't have the same ideas around action that we do, so, they pushed it in another direction, and it just so happens that they were able to produce a movie so out there that even we couldn't ignore, and, yeah, it's fun
so yeah, RRR is an S tier
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still playing gta, still watching akagi, may not be able to finish it today
I literally pogged for 3 hours straight while watching this movie, but it's not an S for me, probably an A (same with Thank You Isekai)
Though I barely ever watch movies (rn I properly watch maybe 3-4 a year kinda incidentally) though so I don't really have a good idea of what I like and what I don't in movies.
I honestly thought that you wouldn't be that high on the action after total recall in D and that'd make it not S tier but I guess I was wrong
Topic Starter
Akagi
I didn't enjoy it very much
This is an anime about mahjong, and only about mahjong. In many ways, you can make parallelisms between akagi and hajime no ippo, they're both hyper long mangas (the adaptations being way shorter), that cover a certain sport or activity and is focused ENTIRERILY on that
For most sport animes, understanding and liking the sport is not really needed in order to enjoy the anime, why?, because the main appeal of the anime isn't the sport by itself, but more the characters surrounding it and the overall situation of the anime, you watch haikyuu because you like the characters, not because of volleyball, you like 3-gatsu no lion because of the drama, not the shogi
However, for akagi and hajime no ippo, it's really hard to actually get into it if you don't like the sport beforehand, the main appeal of this anime is "look at that sick ass play", but I don't know, I am not into mahjong enough for this anime to really pull me in
The animation style is interesting, as it doesn't have what we would consider now an "anime" style of character design. This is because this anime takes inspiration directly from the way Osamu Tezuka did art, who, took inspiration of european comics, so, the actual shape of the faces and stuff are more cartoonish
also, I don't think mahjong is that good of an spectator game, as it's basically japenese poker. It's a gambling game, so whenever they go "wow that play is so crazy he's so smart" I kinda feel conflicted, because it's all luck a the end of the day, and I don't really like the idea that you can climb up high with a gambling game entirerily on skill.
Not only that, but the actual matches aren't very cool to watch either, at least with boxing they're punching each other, you may not know a lot of boxing rules or techniques or whatever but you can see people punching each other, for mahjonh, the rules are a lot more complex and if you don't know how the rules operates, it's really hard to follow the matches and it will just seem like random stuff is happening
so yeah, did not like, D tier
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next: Nightmare on elm street
still playing GTA IV, close to finishing tho
I didn't enjoy it very much
This is an anime about mahjong, and only about mahjong. In many ways, you can make parallelisms between akagi and hajime no ippo, they're both hyper long mangas (the adaptations being way shorter), that cover a certain sport or activity and is focused ENTIRERILY on that
For most sport animes, understanding and liking the sport is not really needed in order to enjoy the anime, why?, because the main appeal of the anime isn't the sport by itself, but more the characters surrounding it and the overall situation of the anime, you watch haikyuu because you like the characters, not because of volleyball, you like 3-gatsu no lion because of the drama, not the shogi
However, for akagi and hajime no ippo, it's really hard to actually get into it if you don't like the sport beforehand, the main appeal of this anime is "look at that sick ass play", but I don't know, I am not into mahjong enough for this anime to really pull me in
The animation style is interesting, as it doesn't have what we would consider now an "anime" style of character design. This is because this anime takes inspiration directly from the way Osamu Tezuka did art, who, took inspiration of european comics, so, the actual shape of the faces and stuff are more cartoonish
also, I don't think mahjong is that good of an spectator game, as it's basically japenese poker. It's a gambling game, so whenever they go "wow that play is so crazy he's so smart" I kinda feel conflicted, because it's all luck a the end of the day, and I don't really like the idea that you can climb up high with a gambling game entirerily on skill.
Not only that, but the actual matches aren't very cool to watch either, at least with boxing they're punching each other, you may not know a lot of boxing rules or techniques or whatever but you can see people punching each other, for mahjonh, the rules are a lot more complex and if you don't know how the rules operates, it's really hard to follow the matches and it will just seem like random stuff is happening
so yeah, did not like, D tier
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next: Nightmare on elm street
still playing GTA IV, close to finishing tho
Topic Starter
sureLapizote wrote:
could you add The Menu to the queue
watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
no way is there an international release already?reffty_gag wrote:
watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
i've gone crazy trying to find where to watch it