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putangina nilang lahaaaat
all groupmates are europeans
i fear the sched slots now
oh wait spare china
all groupmates are europeans
i fear the sched slots now
oh wait spare china
I hope it was because it's not in the twitch channel.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Yes, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv? ... true#gid=0
the stream was recorded if you want suspense.
Hernan PLSThe maps for each round will be announced by the mapset selectors one week in advance.
LoliFlan said it was
It wasn't. Thanks to a small default setting, that stream didn't get recorded...
Blame twitch devs
/me hides
/me hides
Can we just skip to JP vs KR? Haha jk
Korea is so pwned, being in our and Norway's group.
Philippines wrote:
Can we just skip to JP vs KR? Haha jk
lol
I think that maps will be available today or tommorow, as it starts in one week.
misson street warm up yeyeAzer wrote:
RIP UK. Canada gonna ruin you.jesus1412 wrote:
RIP Japan. UK gonna ruin you.
#rivalries
ya, this change was made a few weeks back.kingking9 wrote:
It wasn't. Thanks to a small default setting, that stream didn't get recorded...
What if all members of a OWC team cannot make it to the match?
We have had some terrible storms here in the UK lately, and I think this will greatly affect us in the near future.
Just last week, when I was going to a tea party with Starzd, the storm blew away our tea set and garden furniture, creating a lack of space for our platter of scones.
We have had some terrible storms here in the UK lately, and I think this will greatly affect us in the near future.
Just last week, when I was going to a tea party with Starzd, the storm blew away our tea set and garden furniture, creating a lack of space for our platter of scones.
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Oh deary, how dreadful, Starzd tries so hard to host a spiffing tea party then this brutish weather ruins it all for him, I say, I hope he's okay.Riari wrote:
What if all members of a OWC team cannot make it to the match?
We have had some terrible storms here in the UK lately, and I think this will greatly affect us in the near future.
Just last week, when I was going to a tea party with Starzd, the storm blew away our tea set and garden furniture, creating a lack of space for our platter of scones.
I must say, I have been emotionally distraught! Blimey, this storm!Dodef wrote:
Oh deary, how dreadful, Starzd tries so hard to host a spiffing tea party then this brutish weather ruins it all for him, I say, I hope he's okay.Riari wrote:
What if all members of a OWC team cannot make it to the match?
We have had some terrible storms here in the UK lately, and I think this will greatly affect us in the near future.
Just last week, when I was going to a tea party with Starzd, the storm blew away our tea set and garden furniture, creating a lack of space for our platter of scones.
Riari and I were unable to finish our platter of scones, so for that I shall host another tea party tomorrow, with again, spiffing intentions.
Ta!
what
he can prob wreck me, can't stream for shit so...Zarerion wrote:
what
Hi,
Just a google docs with datas.
Currently there is only players from top-seeded teams but I want to add at least high-seeded teams and probably low-seeded teams.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
Ps : Contact me if you find an error
Just a google docs with datas.
Currently there is only players from top-seeded teams but I want to add at least high-seeded teams and probably low-seeded teams.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
Ps : Contact me if you find an error
WE WILL STOP YOU-Kamui- wrote:
Alright, now, nothing can stop France.
now this is a real spreadsheetKrah wrote:
Hi,
Just a google docs with datas.
Currently there is only players from top-seeded teams but I want to add at least high-seeded teams and probably low-seeded teams.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
Ps : Contact me if you find an error
Krah wrote:
Hi,
Just a google docs with datas.
Currently there is only players from top-seeded teams but I want to add at least high-seeded teams and probably low-seeded teams.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
Ps : Contact me if you find an error
I giggled
that's what it feels like to play osuBlue Dragon wrote:
Krah wrote:
Hi,
Just a google docs with datas.
Currently there is only players from top-seeded teams but I want to add at least high-seeded teams and probably low-seeded teams.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
Ps : Contact me if you find an error
I giggled
the receiving end, i mean.
HuehuehueBlue Dragon wrote:
Krah wrote:
Hi,
Just a google docs with datas.
Currently there is only players from top-seeded teams but I want to add at least high-seeded teams and probably low-seeded teams.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html
Ps : Contact me if you find an error
I giggled
I hesistated to add this but last four columns are complementary informations so no change '-' (no you can't mod my spreadsheet !!!!)rezoons wrote:
I'm not sure it was that useful to know , krah!
Too many number kill the number.
rezoons
any exact time on when the map pool is announced?
Great! With the asians xDDDDD
This will be Hardestestestest.
This will be Hardestestestest.
._. Australia, let's clutch this ahah not.
Topic Starter
If you read the rules, you would know. :pbuny wrote:
any exact time on when the map pool is announced?
Sunday as in rules, I plan Saturday (tomorrow) tho
BRASILLLLLfabriciorby wrote:
BRASILSynchrostar wrote:
i guess NL is going 1-3 maxif we somehow manage to win vs singapore.
at what time? or is it just whenever you feel like it?Loctav wrote:
If you read the rules, you would know. :pbuny wrote:
any exact time on when the map pool is announced?
Sunday as in rules, I plan Saturday (tomorrow) tho
Why are people getting silenced for their sigs? dont get it. Everyone with a OWC sig has been getting it.
Deleting signature gives silence automatically. Sigs were having almost 3mb, and that is just too much.Rules wrote:
No content (including youtube videos) should automatically play on page load. Animated gifs/pngs are excepted, but posting large volumes of animated image data to consume resources are not allowed and you will be banned for doing it. Use spoilerboxes for larger animated images.
Ya, the UK ones were about 1.5mb, the one I've got new is just over 500kb tho so I guess it's fine.Marcin wrote:
Deleting signature gives silence automatically. Sigs were having almost 3mb, and that is just too much.Rules wrote:
No content (including youtube videos) should automatically play on page load. Animated gifs/pngs are excepted, but posting large volumes of animated image data to consume resources are not allowed and you will be banned for doing it. Use spoilerboxes for larger animated images.
What happened to everyone with the Bahrain sigs
Topic Starter
The Match Schedule (Group Stage) is now available.
So yeah, Poland and Germany are organizing a friendly match tomorrow at 5PM UTC (6PM GMT+1). The match will be streamed for testing purposes at http://www.twitch.tv/Nyquill. Tune in if you're interested.
of course the times are scheduled poorly
Just to confirm: This match will be streamed on my channel because its not official in the sense that its not part of the tournament. We're also going to probably be running some parallel things to check quality before we go run the actual matches next week.
That said, I hope you're all hype for OWC2013!
That said, I hope you're all hype for OWC2013!
Topic Starter
It does only take the time into account that the team was registered with (the one named in the local time). Is there any issue?pielak213 wrote:
does the local times for usa take into account dst?
usa has a thing where time goes back one hour this sunday. i'm not sure if your time is incorrect or something is wrong with my mind
edit: sorry i was being dumb. it's all good now
edit: sorry i was being dumb. it's all good now
Topic Starter
Well. I used the time zone that has been used while registering.pielak213 wrote:
usa has a thing where time goes back one hour this sunday. i'm not sure if your time is incorrect or something is wrong with my mind
I can adjust the set times according to the Daylight Saving Time. Just tell your captain to request a time zone change.
Nyquill wrote:
Just to confirm: This match will be streamed on my channel because its not official in the sense that its not part of the tournament. We're also going to probably be running some parallel things to check quality before we go run the actual matches next week.
That said, I hope you're all hype for OWC2013!
Lol feeling stupid for asking this but can i have a link to your channel?
evan129994 wrote:
Nyquill wrote:
Just to confirm: This match will be streamed on my channel because its not official in the sense that its not part of the tournament. We're also going to probably be running some parallel things to check quality before we go run the actual matches next week.
That said, I hope you're all hype for OWC2013!
Lol feeling stupid for asking this but can i have a link to your channel?
fartownik wrote:
So yeah, Poland and Germany are organizing a friendly match tomorrow at 5PM UTC (6PM GMT+1). The match will be streamed for testing purposes at http://www.twitch.tv/Nyquill. Tune in if you're interested.
I would like to address an issue regarding the rankings for group stages.
Just for reference
For example
Let's say there is a group consisting of 4 teams facing each other in best of 7 matches, so each team plays a total 3 matches. In this group there are two teams, Alpha team and Gold team. Alpha team wins 2 matches 4-3 and 4-3, and loses one 3-4. Gold team wins two matches 4-2, 4-3, and loses one 2-4.
In this case both teams have won two matches and lost one. So they are equal in most matches won (priority number 1). Alpha team has won a total of 11 maps and lost 10, while Gold team has won 10 maps and lost 9. Thus in regards to priority number 2 (Have higher {(the number of maps won) - (the number of maps defeated)}.) They are equal as well.
This means that we must go the number 3, most maps won. Alpha team has 11 wins as opposed to Gold teams 10, thus Alpha team would be the higher rank. But there is a problem here, Alpha team has played a total of 21 maps and won 11 of them. Alpha team's win rate is 11/21 or about 52.4%, on the other hand Gold team's win rate is 10/19 or about 52.6%. While these values may seem close, what's important is that Gold team has won a greater percentage of their matches.
In fact no matter what numbers you produce, if you assume results 1 and 2 of two teams to be equal, the team with the lower percentage of wins, and consequently the higher percentage of losses, will be the higher ranked team.
I believe that priority number 3 should be changed to the team with the higher percentage of wins as that would be a better reflection of which team is more deserving of the higher rank.
Just for reference
Rankings of each group are determined by sorting the results of each team's performance in the following priority:I believe that number 3 may need to be revised.Intuitively, winning more maps seems deserving of a higher rank, it's important to note that it is only taken into account if the two higher priority results (matches won, and maps won to maps lost) are equal. If two teams were equal in matches won, and equal in maps won - maps lost, this current ranking system would declare the team with the lower win/loss ratio as the team with the higher rank.
1. Most matches won.
2. Have higher {(the number of maps won) - (the number of maps defeated)}.
3. Most maps won.
4. Have higher ∑{(total score difference) / (maximum score)}.
5. Winner of the rematch.
For example
Let's say there is a group consisting of 4 teams facing each other in best of 7 matches, so each team plays a total 3 matches. In this group there are two teams, Alpha team and Gold team. Alpha team wins 2 matches 4-3 and 4-3, and loses one 3-4. Gold team wins two matches 4-2, 4-3, and loses one 2-4.
In this case both teams have won two matches and lost one. So they are equal in most matches won (priority number 1). Alpha team has won a total of 11 maps and lost 10, while Gold team has won 10 maps and lost 9. Thus in regards to priority number 2 (Have higher {(the number of maps won) - (the number of maps defeated)}.) They are equal as well.
This means that we must go the number 3, most maps won. Alpha team has 11 wins as opposed to Gold teams 10, thus Alpha team would be the higher rank. But there is a problem here, Alpha team has played a total of 21 maps and won 11 of them. Alpha team's win rate is 11/21 or about 52.4%, on the other hand Gold team's win rate is 10/19 or about 52.6%. While these values may seem close, what's important is that Gold team has won a greater percentage of their matches.
In fact no matter what numbers you produce, if you assume results 1 and 2 of two teams to be equal, the team with the lower percentage of wins, and consequently the higher percentage of losses, will be the higher ranked team.
I believe that priority number 3 should be changed to the team with the higher percentage of wins as that would be a better reflection of which team is more deserving of the higher rank.
welcome to owcAngusman wrote:
I would like to address an issue regarding the rankings for group stages.
Just for referenceRankings of each group are determined by sorting the results of each team's performance in the following priority:I believe that number 3 may need to be revised.Intuitively, winning more maps seems deserving of a higher rank, it's important to note that it is only taken into account if the two higher priority results (matches won, and maps won to maps lost) are equal. If two teams were equal in matches won, and equal in maps won - maps lost, this current ranking system would declare the team with the lower win/loss ratio as the team with the higher rank.
1. Most matches won.
2. Have higher {(the number of maps won) - (the number of maps defeated)}.
3. Most maps won.
4. Have higher ∑{(total score difference) / (maximum score)}.
5. Winner of the rematch.
For example
Let's say there is a group consisting of 4 teams facing each other in best of 7 matches, so each team plays a total 3 matches. In this group there are two teams, Alpha team and Gold team. Alpha team wins 2 matches 4-3 and 4-3, and loses one 3-4. Gold team wins two matches 4-2, 4-3, and loses one 2-4.
In this case both teams have won two matches and lost one. So they are equal in most matches won (priority number 1). Alpha team has won a total of 11 maps and lost 10, while Gold team has won 10 maps and lost 9. Thus in regards to priority number 2 (Have higher {(the number of maps won) - (the number of maps defeated)}.) They are equal as well.
This means that we must go the number 3, most maps won. Alpha team has 11 wins as opposed to Gold teams 10, thus Alpha team would be the higher rank. But there is a problem here, Alpha team has played a total of 21 maps and won 11 of them. Alpha team's win rate is 11/21 or about 52.4%, on the other hand Gold team's win rate is 10/19 or about 52.6%. While these values may seem close, what's important is that Gold team has won a greater percentage of their matches.
In fact no matter what numbers you produce, if you assume results 1 and 2 of two teams to be equal, the team with the lower percentage of wins, and consequently the higher percentage of losses, will be the higher ranked team.
I believe that priority number 3 should be changed to the team with the higher percentage of wins as that would be a better reflection of which team is more deserving of the higher rank.
buny wrote:
of course the times are scheduled poorly
Why are you even posting here?buny wrote:
welcome to owc
because i canXPJ38 wrote:
buny wrote:
of course the times are scheduled poorlyWhy are you even posting here?buny wrote:
welcome to owc
it seems like each owc, the organising gets worse and worse
Just change most map won to highest map win ratio and that's it.
Topic Starter
Seems like you lack of attention again, uh?buny wrote:
it seems like each owc, the organising gets worse and worse
If you dislike the organization, feel free to not participate. dramaqueen
Angusman: will revise that. You seem to have a valid point but I am still unsure if the weighting of the 4-3 and 4-2 wins are more fair with that.
i just wanted to know the exact time that the map pools were going to be announced, and you give me such a vague response that didn't even answer my question.Loctav wrote:
Seems like you lack of attention again, uh?buny wrote:
it seems like each owc, the organising gets worse and worse
If you dislike the organization, feel free to not participate. dramaqueen
yes i dislike the organisation, and also at least the schedulers last year actually TRIED to give reasonable time slots to each country which is why i think the organising is worse than last years owc. I'm also not participating in rounds i can't attend (inb4LOLyouwerentgonnagetfaranyway, i was only playing for fun and the anxiety of vsing other countries, the mighty america in particular just to see the gap of skill level) if that makes you happy.
no need for the name calling, we're not in preschool.
since i've said what i've wanted to say, there's no need for more drama. I just wanted to get this off my chest
GL to all countries in owc
Topic Starter
aka: Sunday.osu! World Cup 2013 - Wiki wrote:
The maps for each round will be announced by the mapset selectors one week in advance. Only these will be used during the respective matches.
And where did you ask for the map pool release date? lol
Unfortunately even if you would've give me time frames, the time zone you are living is is like sdejfskfsdkfk (UTC+13), so anything you'd have give me would not have worked, anyways.
Anyways, the reason why we stopped asking teams is because the teams messed up everytime, because they failed to hand in times or tried to change it 100 times.
You know there was a form a while ago regarding feedback with tournaments being one of the topics, right?buny wrote:
since i've said what i've wanted to say, there's no need for more drama. I just wanted to get this off my chest
Loctav wrote:
aka: Sunday.osu! World Cup 2013 - Wiki wrote:
The maps for each round will be announced by the mapset selectors one week in advance. Only these will be used during the respective matches.
And where did you ask for the map pool release date? lol
Unfortunately even if you would've give me time frames, the time zone you are living is is like sdejfskfsdkfk (UTC+13), so anything you'd have give me would not have worked, anyways.
Anyways, the reason why we stopped asking teams is because the teams messed up everytime, because they failed to hand in times or tried to change it 100 times.
the anticipation is killing me.
Topic Starter
Captains get notified as soon as I push the pool. (It's still Saturday, so no need to hurry)
I just changed the size and of Argentina´s one, its over 500kb as well now, hope its ok x)jesus1412 wrote:
Ya, the UK ones were about 1.5mb, the one I've got new is just over 500kb tho so I guess it's fine.
Now we both have shit tier banners!-MikexD- wrote:
I just changed the size and of Argentina´s one, its over 500kb as well now, hope its ok x)jesus1412 wrote:
Ya, the UK ones were about 1.5mb, the one I've got new is just over 500kb tho so I guess it's fine.
UK and Argentina for #1 and #2, let's play again this year.
The obvious issue with this is that the first match will be on friday, a week before in advance it's applied to the last match of the groupstage?
A little bit odd imo but well.
A little bit odd imo but well.
Topic Starter
We will try to release the schedules and mappools right after the last match of the previous stage, which is approx. 1 week in advance.
Only group stage gets scheduled on Friday, all knock-out stage matches are on either Saturday or Sunday
Only group stage gets scheduled on Friday, all knock-out stage matches are on either Saturday or Sunday
Fair enough then, problem was we had a good chance to practice on weekend for people who works on the week and needs to practice for early matches on friday, i think it's balanced as well since maps shouldn't be as hard being on groupstage so it's still not a biggie.
When are the maps gonna come out?
I know today but when today
I know today but when today
Wow thanks for letting us practice the maps from the mappack in advance.
Not.
Not.
inb4 No official mappackfartownik wrote:
Wow thanks for letting us practice the maps from the mappack in advance.
Not.
It is still a training.
I was being sarcastic for the maps not being released yet.
I was referring to the officials picking maps on the day. Anyways, I hope you kept your promise Loctav that you picked the right maps
This means the maps were meant to be released on Friday already, since the first matches are on the next Friday. It's Sunday and they're still not up. I would not pick this up if not the fact that the staff had a real lot of time before the tournament even started to pick the proper maps.Rules wrote:
The maps for each round will be announced by the mapset selectors one week in advance.
soon™
Nah man, you should be glad you can participate and stuff. If you don't like it don't participate, amiright? Just shush and the almighty organization will continue doing whatever they want.fartownik wrote:
This means the maps were meant to be released on Friday already, since the first matches are on the next Friday. It's Sunday and they're still not up. I would not pick this up if not the fact that the staff had a real lot of time before the tournament even started to pick the proper maps.Rules wrote:
The maps for each round will be announced by the mapset selectors one week in advance.
I find it funny how the word 'almighty' only comes with sarcasm and the movie Bruce the Almighty.Moonpower wrote:
Nah man, you should be glad you can participate and stuff. If you don't like it don't participate, amiright? Just shush and the almighty organization will continue doing whatever they want.
If they couldn't hit their deadlines, it does say a lot tbh. From what you said Moonpower about the participants being "humbled" to compete, I feel sorry for Bahrain.
Things on time.
Topic Starter
What part of "Sunday" didn't you understand? You guys are weird.
isn't it sunday already? also some matches are on friday so imo they should've been released on friday so we can compain about them earlier
Dear to whom it may concern,
Who will be the streamer?
Regards,
Dexter
Who will be the streamer?
Regards,
Dexter
That's on the wiki.
Streamers: Nyquill, kingking9, Love, ShinseinaTenshi
ffs not you againLaVolpe024 wrote:
That's on the wiki.Streamers: Nyquill, kingking9, Love, ShinseinaTenshi
Yeah it's all on the wiki as Loctav mentioned in one of these threads.
Sorry I don't recognise you.Metro wrote:
ffs not you again
Uhh. There're less than five days until the first match, it's the middle of Sunday UTC, and there's still no mappool.
Mappool where?
Mappool where?
Though I can understand that loctav hasn't much free time as to post stuff, I'd be disappointed if it turned out that mappools hadn't been prepared earlier (I mean, like, days ago, and I mean all mappools). If mappools are ready (I hope they all are), posting them should be like.... one click away!
I'm pretty sure they are prepared.
he sure did have free time to answer those rants from other people thoughAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Though I can understand that loctav hasn't much free time as to post stuff, I'd be disappointed if it turned out that mappools hadn't been prepared earlier (I mean, like, days ago, and I mean all mappools). If mappools are ready (I hope they all are), posting them should be like.... one click away!
and yeah it's sunday. where are the maps? O_o
Why would you post the mappool when you can call people weird for thinking that the mappool would be released on friday, as per wiki, but then making it sunday and trying to look better by making it 1 day earlier but not doing that in the end? Never doubt the German efficiency!
Topic Starter
The thing is, if people haven't even gotten the time to prepare and be ready to post a mappool with 10ish days of preparation. Then just think of the teams that are participating (especially the once that are playing on Friday), not only do they have to look daily for the mappool news, they also have to make time to practice them. I'll just assume that most participants are around 17-20 years old, which would mean they are studying/working through Monday - Friday, so some of them might have a tight training schedule.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Though I can understand that loctav hasn't much free time as to post stuff
I just hope we'll see some maps soon so the teams have time to practice them.
Anyway, good luck and have fun to all the participating players/staff of the OWC #4 and may the best team win!
Cheers~
Thank you~Loctav wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Group_Stage
It's 2pm UTC, y so impatient
We're probably impatient because most of us expected the mappool to be out on Friday. Since that wasn't the case, we'd atleast want it as soon as possible to squeeze in any possible practice time we still have left during the weekend.Loctav wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Group_Stage
It's 2pm UTC, y so impatient
Well, thanks for the mappool anyway.
And I just realised having freemods during tiebreaker is a silly idea.
\:D/
because it's 10pm on UTC +8
because it's 10pm on UTC +8