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Motoi Sakuraba - Battle with God Syndrome -Valkyrie Profile-

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alvisto
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, August 08, 2009 at 12:00:28 AM

Artist: Motoi Sakuraba
Title: Battle with God Syndrome
Source: Valkyrie Profile
Tags: Valkyrie Profile Motoi Sakuraba Battle with god syndrome
BPM: 159
Filesize: 13130kb
Play Time: 02:15
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.93 stars, 109 notes)
  2. Hard (4.74 stars, 312 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 593 notes)
  4. Normal (3.65 stars, 164 notes)
Download: Motoi Sakuraba - Battle with God Syndrome
Download: Motoi Sakuraba - Battle with God Syndrome (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 1st beatmap... <3

This song is the battle theme of Valkyrie Profile 1, a remix version to be precise. =P

Please download the video version to fully enjoy the map... (There's some very cool cut scene in the video ! ^o^)

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I would like to say a big thanks to those person below that helped in my journey of my first map. I really appreciate it. =D

HISTORY OF THIS MAP

SPOILER
Thanks & Credits
Skin : Breeze, x3ns0r, Alex0686 & me too !
Beatmap : me !
Storyboard : me !

MOD history
Timing, offset, BPM mod :
pete2528, RemmyX25,

Early era MOD that get me through noob stage :
blissfulyoshi, Shinxyn, Mafiamaster, tieff, Lizbeth

Middle era MOD that helped in my growth :
osuplayer111, ignorethis, blissfulyoshi (again =D), alan_629_6, Breeze

Late middle era MOD that help further improve my map :
Z-Ramm, Takuma, Ryuukun, lukewarmholiday, BagnoGamer, gdeath, antony11, sesito71, Lisette

Turning point MOD that suggest me redo the map :
m980

Post turning point MOD that help me fine tune stuffs:
Azure_Kyte, kingcobra52, animask, Symbolic

Temporary-resting MOD that help me with skin and miscellanous stuff :
whymeman, DeathXShinigami, illuminist, x3ns0r

Another turning point MOD that suggest me redo the map and improve hitsounds :
Wojjan, Alace

Post turning point 2 MOD :
Gens, mineyob, yeahyeahyeahhh, Starrodkirby86, Larto

Star shooter :
hunter_87, WyndII. arken1015, Jeffro, Leon Magnus, mineyob

Fun Stuff:
1st person to mod my map : pete2528
1st person to star my map : Mafiamaster
1st BAT to mod my map : Takuma
1st person that acted as my advisor : Breeze
1st difficulty to make : HARD
1st INSANE-ious star shooter : mineyob ! ( Thanks for the 3 kudosu star ! )
Time taken to map EASY, NORMAL & HARD : ~8 days
Time taken to map INSANE : ~1 day
BAT that visited my thread : RemmyX25, foulcoon, Takuma, kingcobra52, m980, Alace, Larto, Starrodkirby86
Kudosu spent on shooting star in this map : 24
Gains and lessons learnt here :
- a lot of maping & technical stuff knowledge
- a lot of friends =D
- osu! is a really friendly community !
- how to mod other people's map, and this helps in improving my map as well !
- the excitement of anticipation when waiting for a mod from someone. =P
pete2528
BPM is 159
easy
offset is 4953

norma and linsane
offset is 385

they are too many time points. you work hard.
you should add background picture.
watch your distance note.


good map :)

i am back to give star :)
RemmyX25

alvisto wrote:

P.S. : The video size might be too big, but that's the best that I can do without it losing its quality...
As long as the entire .osz is under 20mb with video, you're fine.

Try to use one general offset throughout the entire set. Inherited points can vary, but for a starting point, keep it to one value (unless absolutely necessary). I took a look at easy, and you don't need those extra points. If you need to slow the tempo to half pace, just set an Inherited Timing Point, and set the bpm at x.5.


That said, use a BPM of 159.1, and an offset of 405

Make sure you resnap all notes and recalculate your sliders, and make sure they're still put where you want them.

Best of luck!
Breeze
看来alvisto很迷北欧女神啊

听惯了日语版的语音...听英语的好奇怪囧
我と共に生きるは冷厳なる勇者、いでよ XD

前面他们给你说了BPM,最好还是听他们的意见改改BPM和OFFSET
别忘了给kudosu XP
另外改了BPM和OFFSET后要记得resnap all the notes(在timing选项里红色的第一项)

no star for now,等你再改改后我会再来看看:)

加油
Topic Starter
alvisto
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Breeze
如果需要帮忙做skin或者story board
可以论坛PM我 :)
RemmyX25

alvisto wrote:

RemmyX25 wrote:

If you need to slow the tempo to half pace, just set an Inherited Timing Point, and set the bpm at x.5.

That said, use a BPM of 159.1, and an offset of 405
Thanks for the tips. I had edited Easy's BPM and offset, and also the mid-song slow tempo as well. Definitely sounds better now... Thanks a bundle ! =D
Just make sure you to the same bpm and offset for the other difficulties as well
foulcoon
Take -Valkryie Profile- out of the title, put it in the source.
Topic Starter
alvisto

RemmyX25 wrote:

Just make sure you to the same bpm and offset for the other difficulties as well
Done ! And I was very happy that I asked you for help, because your suggested BPM & offset really works very well in this map ! And this map sounds WAYYY better than its previous version. Thanks ! =D

P.S. : I wonder why I myself get a BPM of 190-something-ish when I timed it myself... XD I guess I have bad ears... :o

foulcoon wrote:

Take -Valkryie Profile- out of the title, put it in the source.
Done !

Breeze wrote:

如果需要帮忙做skin或者story board
可以论坛PM我 :)
我有一点想放弃做skin了,因为我刚刚看了skin faq,感觉好好好好难耶! (我是photoshop noob... :o )
可是我会改点storyboard. 有问题的话我就问问你吧! 谢谢! :D

A big thank to those who post in my thread. ;)

Plan : Get more people to mod my map... :P
blissfulyoshi
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
alvisto

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Can you please do a full-resubmit? I cannot get the beatmap for some reason.
Done resubmitting ! Let me say thanks first for posting on my thread ! ^o^
blissfulyoshi
Easy:
y are so many notes snapped weirdly. There seem to be a large amount of eighth snaps when the song suggest the notes should be snapped to the quarter notes. Please fix that first.
Ex:
00:04:88 (1) - move an eighth note forward
00:23:32 (1) - move a quarter note forward
00:24:13 (2) - move a eighth note forward
please check through the song and fix that
also y is the BPM different in this difficulty than the others
for me this map looks sort of empty at parts and should be mapped more

Normal:
same timing problem as easy
also y does this have different timing sections than the other diffs. If you want to make a slider slower such as 00:27:51 (7) - please make an inherited half BPM section. The current BPM makes no sense. Also I don't recommend you do the half speed sections because they make no sense with the song
00:16:99 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - this felt like playing a metronome. You snap to the drums which go to a constant rhythm. You should really map the wind instrument instead. If you plan to map drums for the whole map, pls make sure you are consistent with mapping them because right now you have a sudden surge of beats mapping a drum then go back to a few dominant notes.

Hard:
same timing section, note timing, and consistency problem as normal
here is a better example of a consistency problem: 00:07:00 (2,3) - y are these 2 notes mapped when the previous few beats were not when they made the same sound?

I think this beatmap needs some work in some parts in the map. Feel free to contact me later for more modding.
Shinxyn
O_o interesting video use...
Please lower all volumes (Soft sections by 1-2 ticks, and Normal sections by 2-3 ticks), the beatmap is way too loud
Resnap all notes and Recalculate slider lengths (under timing if you didn't know) using 1/4 and recheck the whole map for timing - note- MOST note should go on the red and white ticks, a few on blue, but I did notice there are beats that go on blue ticks, so keep with 1/4
Redo the breaks

Fix timing first, cuz it's too hard to mod if the timing is completely messy >_< (I have no reason to go against the current bpm and offset, yet?)
Topic Starter
alvisto

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Easy:
y are so many notes snapped weirdly. There seem to be a large amount of eighth snaps when the song suggest the notes should be snapped to the quarter notes. Please fix that first.
Ex:
00:04:88 (1) - move an eighth note forward
00:23:32 (1) - move a quarter note forward
00:24:13 (2) - move a eighth note forward
please check through the song and fix that
also y is the BPM different in this difficulty than the others
for me this map looks sort of empty at parts and should be mapped more
Just spent hours fixing and remapping EASY. I am starting to get a good hang of timing. =D Thanks for your help ! I will continue to mod Normal & Hard after I finish letting my ears, my eyes, and my brain rest. :D I hope you can help me mod again once I finish fixing timing issues.

Shinxyn wrote:

O_o interesting video use...
Please lower all volumes (Soft sections by 1-2 ticks, and Normal sections by 2-3 ticks), the beatmap is way too loud
Resnap all notes and Recalculate slider lengths (under timing if you didn't know) using 1/4 and recheck the whole map for timing - note- MOST note should go on the red and white ticks, a few on blue, but I did notice there are beats that go on blue ticks, so keep with 1/4

Fix timing first, cuz it's too hard to mod if the timing is completely messy >_< (I have no reason to go against the current bpm and offset, yet?)
That video took me A LOT OF TIME to make, because I want to make it sync with the music and sound effects. Thanks for your tips ! (Highlighted there) I am switching to 1/4 totally, and I never know those colour ticks are so useful ! I hope you can help me mod too once I finish clearing up those messy timing.

Thank you guys for giving constructive criticisms !

I have some questions though (Kudosu for 1 person who clear my doubt !)

1. Does the editing lag like hell if you insert background video ? Cause everytime I edit, my Osu! lag like hell, once I remove the video from song folder, everything's smoothin editing. However, during playing in Solo mode, it won't lag with the video playing in the background ! I wonder why... Do I need to recode the video ?
Mafiamaster
Wow, lol. I'm getting some serious (not that serious but kind of serious) frame skipping
Resize your pictures to 800x600. You'll have to scale them in editor later.
The video... Yeah, The dimensions of the video are quite big I think. You'll need to reencode it.
I tried to but feel free not to use it if the quality isn't all that great.
http://up.ppy.sh/files/final3_0.avi

Easy~
  1. 00:04:88 (1,2,3) - The first three notes are not snapped to the white tick.
  2. 00:10:21 (4) - Sounds weird. Suggestion: I think it would sound better if you had the reverse arrow extend to the white tick at 00:10:59. So the slider ball comes back around and ends on the next white tick. (00:10:97)
  3. 00:11:53 (1,2,3,4,5) - These would sound much better if they were on the white ticks. Move them forward about two 1/4 ticks. Then snap 4 and 5 on the white ticks. Afterwards shorten 5 so it lands on the white tick at (00:15:49)
  4. 00:16:20 (1,2,3) - Snap to white ticks.
  5. 00:23:32 (1,2) - ^
  6. 00:27:15 (6,7) - ^
  7. 00:47:10 (1) - ^
  8. 00:54:50 (3) - Snap to the red tick.
    Recheck your map please for the obvious note placement errors~
tieff
Don't give up. It's not a bad map.

[Easy]
00:06:48 (2,3) - Spacing.
00:23:32 (1) - Place it on white tick 00:23:42.
00:24:13 (2) - Place it on white tick 00:24:17.
00:27:19 (6) - Place it on white tick 00:27:19.
00:27:90 (7) - Place it on white tick 00:27:95.
Redo break.
00:54:50 (3) - Place it here 00:54:55. New combo.
00:56:20 (1) - Place it here 00:56:25.
00:56:63 (2) - End here 00:57:38.
00:58:84 (5) - Place here 00:58:89.
00:59:65 (1) - End here 01:00:40.
01:01:11 (2,3) - Move to the white tick.
01:02:66 (1) - End here 01:03:42.
01:04:36 (3) - End here 01:04:93.
01:05:64 (1,2,3) - Move to the white tick.
01:19:13 (1) - ^
01:22:99 (5) - ^
01:23:32 (1) - Move to the white tick, end slider here 01:23:80.
01:24:17 (2) - Move to the white tick and end slider on the white tick.
01:24:88 (3) - ^
01:25:64 (4) - ^
01:26:34 (1) - Move to the white tick.
01:26:67 (2,3,1,2) - Move to the white tick and end slider on the white tick.
01:30:97 (1) - ^
01:32:85 (1) - Return and end on the white tick.
01:35:87 (3) - ^
01:38:47 (1,2) - White tick.
01:39:98 (3,4) - ^
01:41:48 (5) - New combo. Move to the white tick and end slider on the white tick.
etc. Snap almost all note on the white tick.

[Normal]
Snap almost all note on the white/red tick.
00:11:48 (4) - New combo.
00:22:27 (1,2,3) - Jumps on normal?
01:01:47 (1) - Finish.
01:02:04 (2) - Finish on start.
01:08:693 - Redo break.
01:20:01 (1,2,3) - Maybe to hard for normal. Replace with slider.
02:23:04 (1,2,3,4) - Whistle doesn't fit.

[Hard]
Snap almost all note on the white/red tick.
00:11:34 (3) - New combo?
00:22:23 (4,5,6,7,8) - Heh? Replace with slider.
00:28:59 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It's cool, but replace with slider.
01:06:77 (5) - New combo.
01:32:77 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Replace with sliders.
01:35:08 (8,9,10) - Replace with slider.
01:44:14 (1,1,1) - ^
01:50:93 (1,2,3) - ^

Ok, star.
Breeze
我来先给你个星,mod的话,过几天空的时候我会再看看
现在修改过几次后肯定很不错了,期待~
Topic Starter
alvisto
Thanks for all the great mods ! I couldn't catch up with all the suggestions and comments here ( =P I am as slow and steady as a tortoise XD ), but don't worry, I will definitely go through all the maps carefully, and hopefully post an update soon !

Thank you guys for all the stars !!! I am so motivated right now that I would...... *run off to mod, couldn't finish those last sentences... XD"

EDIT : Actually before seeing these new posts, I had already redo EASY map with better timing and snapping, and I forgot to upload the newest EASY. So, the mods that you guys suggested on EASY might be referring to the old EASY, but I would still see through whether I miss anything or not. Thanks again for all ya big help ! =D
Topic Starter
alvisto

Mafiamaster wrote:

Wow, lol. I'm getting some serious (not that serious but kind of serious) frame skipping
Resize your pictures to 800x600. You'll have to scale them in editor later.
The video... Yeah, The dimensions of the video are quite big I think. You'll need to reencode it.
I tried to but feel free not to use it if the quality isn't all that great.
http://up.ppy.sh/files/final3_0.avi Can I use it ? It's small, non-laggy, and the quality is good too ! :) ^o^ Thanks ! Can you post another post here so that I can award you 1 more kudosu for all the video recoding trouble ?

Easy~
  1. 00:04:88 (1,2,3) - The first three notes are not snapped to the white tick.
  2. 00:10:21 (4) - Sounds weird. Suggestion: I think it would sound better if you had the reverse arrow extend to the white tick at 00:10:59. So the slider ball comes back around and ends on the next white tick. (00:10:97)
  3. 00:11:53 (1,2,3,4,5) - These would sound much better if they were on the white ticks. Move them forward about two 1/4 ticks. Then snap 4 and 5 on the white ticks. Afterwards shorten 5 so it lands on the white tick at (00:15:49)
  4. 00:16:20 (1,2,3) - Snap to white ticks.
  5. 00:23:32 (1,2) - ^
  6. 00:27:15 (6,7) - ^
  7. 00:47:10 (1) - ^
  8. 00:54:50 (3) - Snap to the red tick.
    Recheck your map please for the obvious note placement errors~
All fixed !
Lizbeth
hi
the map is nice but u have a big problem here
in all diff. most of the notes aren't snapped. snap it to white, red and blue ticks only, no yellow ticks plz.(except of those sections with 60 BPM)
also reinsert breaks (right clic to remove it and add it again)
i dont see a lot of spacing problems.

im not messing with timing, cuz im really bad at multiple timing sections.
i can see that u have work a lot in this map. well done :)
if u dont understand something u can send me a pm, or post it here, and i well see if i can explain it to you, with screen shots or somthing...

anyway first of all fix those those snap problem
good luck ;)
Topic Starter
alvisto
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
alvisto

Lizbeth wrote:

hi
the map is nice but u have a big problem here
in all diff. most of the notes aren't snapped. snap it to white, red and blue ticks only, no yellow ticks plz.(except of those sections with 60 BPM)
also reinsert breaks (right clic to remove it and add it again)
i dont see a lot of spacing problems.

im not messing with timing, cuz im really bad at multiple timing sections.
i can see that u have work a lot in this map. well done :)
if u dont understand something u can send me a pm, or post it here, and i well see if i can explain it to you, with screen shots or somthing...

anyway first of all fix those those snap problem
good luck ;)
Thanks for showing up Lizbeth ! Actually, I think the moment you were posting your reply, I was full-resubmitting my whole new all-ticks-fixed-and-all-beats-snapped beatmap. Can you please help me mod it again ? Sorry for the turtle speed of updating beatmap, and thanks a lot !

P.S. : And that's HOW YOU REMOVE THOSE BREAKS ! LOL. 1 kudosu for pointing that one for me. =D I will fix break problem tomorrow. Now, I am gonna to take some sleep. :)
tieff
About .x0.5 BPM sections... I like this section and it fit music. I think.

"Should I keep this part, or scrap it and remake that part ?(To be honest, I kinda like the sudden drum rush, that's why )"
It's your map, and if you really like this part, don't change it.
Lizbeth

alvisto wrote:

Lizbeth wrote:

hi
the map is nice but u have a big problem here
in all diff. most of the notes aren't snapped. snap it to white, red and blue ticks only, no yellow ticks plz.(except of those sections with 60 BPM)
also reinsert breaks (right clic to remove it and add it again)
i dont see a lot of spacing problems.

im not messing with timing, cuz im really bad at multiple timing sections.
i can see that u have work a lot in this map. well done :)
if u dont understand something u can send me a pm, or post it here, and i well see if i can explain it to you, with screen shots or somthing...

anyway first of all fix those those snap problem
good luck ;)
Thanks for showing up Lizbeth ! Actually, I think the moment you were posting your reply, I was full-resubmitting my whole new all-ticks-fixed-and-all-beats-snapped beatmap. Can you please help me mod it again ? Sorry for the turtle speed of updating beatmap, and thanks a lot !

P.S. : And that's HOW YOU REMOVE THOSE BREAKS ! LOL. 1 kudosu for pointing that one for me. =D I will fix break problem tomorrow. Now, I am gonna to take some sleep. :)
lol what a coincidence..
to remove a break just right clic on break at the timeline, then to reinsert, just clic Insert Break Time again

i ll look this later, cuz aint have to much time know.

hehe i forgot to give u star before n_n
Mafiamaster
Easy~
  1. 01:06:81 (6) - Redo break after slider.
  2. 01:43:04 (3) - Remember, this is the Easy difficulty, so I don't think that this should be RIGHT under 1.
  3. 02:26:34 (2,3) - IMO, these should be on the white ticks as well since it's the Easy difficulty.
Normal~
  1. 00:11:53 (1) - I'd move this to the white tick (00:11:71)
  2. 00:12:28 (2) - Also the white tick (00:12:47)
  3. 00:13:03 (3) - Once again (00:13:22)
  4. 00:13:41 (1) - Move 1/4 of a tick forward.
  5. 00:13:69 (2) - ^ Once that's done, lengthen it to the white tick. (00:14:73)
  6. 00:15:30 (3) - Could be moved to the white tick. (00:15:30) Then shorten the slider to the white tick.
  7. 00:16:33 (1) - Move to red tick.
  8. 00:16:52 (2) - Move to white tick.
  9. 01:30:53 (2,3) - Stack these on 1's endpoint OR move them farther apart
  10. 01:36:38 (3) - Suggestion: Move this to the blue tick. (01:36:47)

Oh dang... timing @ 01:38:45 (1) through 02:23:71 (2). I can't help you there. ;_;
I've figured out the problem. The BPM should be 159.00, not 159.10
I thought it was already at 159.00 the first time I modded it O_o
You're going to have a lot of work to do getting the beats in the right places after changing the BPM yet again.
Topic Starter
alvisto

Mafiamaster wrote:

Easy~
  1. 01:06:81 (6) - Redo break after slider.
  2. 01:43:04 (3) - Remember, this is the Easy difficulty, so I don't think that this should be RIGHT under 1.
  3. 02:26:34 (2,3) - IMO, these should be on the white ticks as well since it's the Easy difficulty.
I edited it to a slider so that it is not difficult for EASY, and the beat doesn't run off. Snapping them on all white seems very weird. =P
Fix

Normal~
  1. 00:11:53 (1) - I'd move this to the white tick (00:11:71)
  2. 00:12:28 (2) - Also the white tick (00:12:47)
  3. 00:13:03 (3) - Once again (00:13:22)
  4. 00:13:41 (1) - Move 1/4 of a tick forward.
  5. 00:13:69 (2) - ^ Once that's done, lengthen it to the white tick. (00:14:73)
  6. 00:15:30 (3) - Could be moved to the white tick. (00:15:30) Then shorten the slider to the white tick.
  7. 00:16:33 (1) - Move to red tick.
  8. 00:16:52 (2) - Move to white tick.
  9. 01:30:53 (2,3) - Stack these on 1's endpoint OR move them farther apart
  10. 01:36:38 (3) - Suggestion: Move this to the blue tick. (01:36:47)
Fix all (Hopefully I didn't miss any =P)

Oh dang... timing @ 01:38:45 (1) through 02:23:71 (2). I can't help you there. ;_;
I've figured out the problem. The BPM should be 159.00, not 159.10 =O
I thought it was already at 159.00 the first time I modded it O_o Me too ! That's why I kept feeling the weirdness when playing through NORMAL & HARD 1:54;555 - 1:56:631
You're going to have a lot of work to do getting the beats in the right places after changing the BPM yet again. Now I am getting better and better, editing took lesser and lesser time. Thanks to you guys I learn the colour tick trick. It's better than before where I actually DO COUNT HOW MANY TICKS between each beat to make it sounds constant. lol. Plus, I learned about "j" and "k" shortcut too. =P
I moved this map to Work in Progress/Help, cause it seems like

1. I am still working in progress.... lol
2. And I need a lot of help ! So, all helps are welcomed ! =D

And I will edit the storyboard tomorrow. ( uhm, I believe it's today for US people. XD )
Lizbeth
oks here we go

[Hard]
00:04:93 (1) - i think sounds better if you finish this slider at 00:05:49, the add a note at 00:05:68 and remove 00:05:78 (2)
00:11:34 (1) - start this slider at 00:11:53ending in the next white tick
00:11:91 (2) - move to next blue tick
00:15:12 (8) - move to prev blue tick
00:15:68 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move this 1/4 beat later
00:22:76 (1,2,3) - move 1/4 beat later
01:32:85 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i dont know if this fits the song
01:35:12 (8,9,10) - move half beat later
01:50:87 (1,2,3) - move to next white tick
02:02:66 (1) - i know is silenced slid, but i think don't fits the music
02:06:06 (1,1) - same here, why you dont follow those strong beats?

[Normal]
00:13:70 (2) - doesn't follow the music
00:53:23 (1) - distance between (5,1) should be the same as (4,5)
00:57:57 (2) - start this slider at next white tick
00:58:89 (1) - stack with (2,3) ?


[Easy]
too fast the slider velocity for a easy imo
since this have 159 BPM, i think these kind of notes 00:58:14 (3,4) are to fast, i recommend you to stick to the white ticks in this diff. this is just my opinion.
01:56:63 (1) - like i said, too fast change for a easy, eliminate a repeat of the prev slider
02:08:14 - remove those 2 breaks, and reinsert

cya good luck
n_n
Topic Starter
alvisto

Lizbeth wrote:

oks here we go

[Hard]
00:04:93 (1) - i think sounds better if you finish this slider at 00:05:49, the add a note at 00:05:68 and remove 00:05:78 (2) [/color]
00:11:34 (1) - start this slider at 00:11:53ending in the next white tick
00:11:91 (2) - move to next blue tick
00:15:12 (8) - move to prev blue tick
00:15:68 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - move this 1/4 beat later
00:22:76 (1,2,3) - move 1/4 beat later
01:32:85 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i dont know if this fits the song
01:35:12 (8,9,10) - move half beat later
01:50:87 (1,2,3) - move to next white tick
02:02:66 (1) - i know is silenced slid, but i think don't fits the music
02:06:06 (1,1) - same here, why you dont follow those strong beats?

[/color]
[Normal]
00:13:70 (2) - doesn't follow the music
00:53:23 (1) - distance between (5,1) should be the same as (4,5)
00:57:57 (2) - start this slider at next white tick
00:58:89 (1) - stack with (2,3) ?
All fix.

[Easy]
too fast the slider velocity for a easy imo Hmmm... izzit ? Lol, I too overestimate easy I guess... =P

QUESTION !
I tried changing the slider velocity, but I couldn't recalculate all the sliders automatically. So, do I need to do readjust all the sliders manually ? It's not a troublesome problem for me to edit all those (I love modding =P), but how much slider velocity do you recommend ? For an EASY map ?

since this have 159 BPM, i think these kind of notes 00:58:14 (3,4) are to fast, i recommend you to stick to the white ticks in this diff. this is just my opinion. Agreed. I wonder why I didn't change this one since the following beat groups after this I snap all the notes on the white ticks. =P
01:56:63 (1) - like i said, too fast change for a easy, eliminate a repeat of the prev slider
02:08:14 - remove those 2 breaks, and reinsert
All fixed.

cya good luck
n_n
Thanks for the great and generous modding ! :)
Andrea
[Timing]

Seems fine.

[Easy]

00:11:72 (1,2,3,4) - Too much claps. Try to change it.
First pause is a bit too long...
01:04:17 (2,3) - Too hard for easy maps.
01:06:81 (6) - Silence this slider only on ending.
01:56:63 (1) - Too close from 01:55:12 (4)

[Normal]

Good.

[Hard]

00:01:72 (11,1) - Spacing.
Too much new combo on start of the map.
01:05:31 (1,2,3) - Align correctly.
01:30:21 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This jumps goes out from nowhere.
Topic Starter
alvisto

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Timing]

Seems fine.

[Easy]

00:11:72 (1,2,3,4) - Too much claps. Try to change it.
First pause is a bit too long... [/color]
01:04:17 (2,3) - Too hard for easy maps.
01:06:81 (6) - Silence this slider only on ending.
01:56:63 (1) - Too close from 01:55:12 (4)

[Normal]

Good.

[Hard]

00:01:72 (11,1) - Spacing.
Too much new combo on start of the map.
01:05:31 (1,2,3) - Align correctly.
01:30:21 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This jumps goes out from nowhere.[/color]
All fix. Thanks for the Star ! Yeah, I have 5 stars right now. =P

I just done mapping INSANE map. It took lesser time than what I expected. =P Everybody, sorry for the trouble, but could you guys help me mod INSANE ? :)

More to come tomorrow. Storyboard improvement. *off to ask people to help me mod my map*
ignorethis
omg this is your first map? Great.

<Easy>
A bit like normal, especially the 1/2 velocity sliders, but still ok.
02:26:06 (1) - Not a proper place to end the song. Ending at 02:20:782 is preferable.

<Normal>
00:48:140 - Make this picture gradually fade in, not just appear out of nowhere. It's just wrong. In Easy it doesn't matter because a spinner is there blocking this picture xD
01:20:02 (1) - Remove clap.
02:02:66 (2) - Bad spacing. Should be away from 1, or player will think this is closely after 1, click it too soon and then go wrong. Although it's recogniseable, I still suggest you move this away.
02:07:76 (4) - ^
02:26:06 (1) - Same as Easy.

<Hard>
00:16:25 (3,4,5,6) - Remove finish.
00:48:140 - Same.
00:59:27 (7) - New combo.
01:33:98 (4) - Bad spacing.
02:26:06 (1) - Same as Easy.

<Insane>
01:05:68 (2) - Bad spacing.
Also the problems I mentioned above.

Except for these problems this map's a high quality one for a first-time mapper. Good luck with ranking. Star'd.
blissfulyoshi
Easy:
00:16:63 (7,1) - spacing? (I personally do not want small jumps in easy, but that is your choice)
00:18:89 (1) - remove new combo
00:20:40 (4) - add new combo
00:51:53 (1) - remove new combo
01:06:81 (6) - make this timing section slightly earlier to make sure ppl who drop the slider early hear the silence (about a eighth note earlier)
01:28:32 (1) - remove new combo
01:30:97 (1) - remove new combo
01:38:14 (4,1) - spacing?
01:49:83 (3,1) - swap new combo
01:51:53 (3) - new combo?

Normal:
00:19:27 (1,2) - swap new combo
00:20:59 (1) - remove new combo
00:24:93 (1,1,1) - this new combo spam seemed random
00:25:31 (1) - I would like if this was not under the light blue 2
01:03:04 (1) - remove new combo
01:49:27 (1,2) - spacing
02:23:04 (1,2) - swap new combo

Hard:
you might want to increase the overall difficulty
00:00:49 - it feels weird that you did not map this part
00:09:46 (6,7) - spacing (These spacing mistakes could also be fixed by adding a new combo
00:18:51 (1,4) - swap new combo
00:21:34 (1) - remove new combo
00:28:51 (1) - remove the new combo here to keep the pattern of 2s
00:52:66 (1,1) - personally I did not see the reason for 2 new combos here
00:59:27 (7) - new combo
01:23:80 (7) - new combo
01:27:95 (7) - new combo
01:40:78 (4,5) - spacing
01:52:29 (3) - look nicer if you place this under the dark blue 1
01:56:63 (2) - these long sliders do not fit the difficulty

Insane:
00:30:97 (1) - remove new combo
01:40:40 (7) - place under the purple 2/4

Much better than before. Star.
alan_629_6
Hi ! Sorry for the late come. I try my best. Those mistakes that other people say already I won't say anymore, ok ?

Easy - Ok. The slider moves too fast. Change it slower ?

Normal - I didn't notice any mistake.

Hard - The slow slider parts are ugly. Change ?

Insane -
1:20:216 (9) - Alignment is a bit off.
1:20:782 (1) - The beats too near. Make it farer.
1:22:857 - Same.

Also, please recheck some of the beat placement. Some are not straight and some look weird. Also the white flash background at the end of the song is off. Fix it.

Good luck !
Topic Starter
alvisto

ignorethis wrote:

omg this is your first map? Great. Thanks ! Thanks !

<Easy>
A bit like normal, especially the 1/2 velocity sliders, but still ok.
02:26:06 (1) - Not a proper place to end the song. Ending at 02:20:782 is preferable. Sorry, but I kinda like the ending, it's more dramatic imo. Please accept it. =D

<Normal>
00:48:140 - Make this picture gradually fade in, not just appear out of nowhere. It's just wrong. In Easy it doesn't matter because a spinner is there blocking this picture xD =O I forgot there are also this non-video version of the beatmap, because with video, the video will block the sudden "pop" of this picture. Will fix this later. =P Thanks.
01:20:02 (1) - Remove clap.
02:02:66 (2) - Bad spacing. Should be away from 1, or player will think this is closely after 1, click it too soon and then go wrong. Although it's recogniseable, I still suggest you move this away.
02:07:76 (4) - ^
02:26:06 (1) - Same as Easy.
All fix.
<Hard>
00:16:25 (3,4,5,6) - Remove finish.
00:48:140 - Same.
00:59:27 (7) - New combo.
01:33:98 (4) - Bad spacing.
02:26:06 (1) - Same as Easy.

<Insane>
01:05:68 (2) - Bad spacing.
Also the problems I mentioned above.

All fix. Thanks for the great mod !
Except for these problems this map's a high quality one for a first-time mapper. Good luck with ranking. Star'd.

A big thanks for your star and your praise ! :)

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Easy:
00:16:63 (7,1) - spacing? (I personally do not want small jumps in easy, but that is your choice) I kinda like the small jump, sorry...
00:18:89 (1) - remove new combo
00:20:40 (4) - add new combo
00:51:53 (1) - remove new combo
01:06:81 (6) - make this timing section slightly earlier to make sure ppl who drop the slider early hear the silence (about a eighth note earlier)
01:28:32 (1) - remove new combo
01:30:97 (1) - remove new combo
01:38:14 (4,1) - spacing?
01:49:83 (3,1) - swap new combo What does swap new combo means ? lol
01:51:53 (3) - new combo?
Fixed.
Normal:
00:19:27 (1,2) - swap new combo
00:20:59 (1) - remove new combo
00:24:93 (1,1,1) - this new combo spam seemed random
00:25:31 (1) - I would like if this was not under the light blue 2
01:03:04 (1) - remove new combo
01:49:27 (1,2) - spacing
02:23:04 (1,2) - swap new combo

Hard:
you might want to increase the overall difficulty Ok
00:00:49 - it feels weird that you did not map this part
00:09:46 (6,7) - spacing (These spacing mistakes could also be fixed by adding a new combo
00:18:51 (1,4) - swap new combo
00:21:34 (1) - remove new combo
00:28:51 (1) - remove the new combo here to keep the pattern of 2s
00:52:66 (1,1) - personally I did not see the reason for 2 new combos here
00:59:27 (7) - new combo
01:23:80 (7) - new combo
01:27:95 (7) - new combo
01:40:78 (4,5) - spacing
01:52:29 (3) - look nicer if you place this under the dark blue 1 I don't understand this... XD
01:56:63 (2) - these long sliders do not fit the difficulty Hmmm.... I have been thinking of changing this part for quite some time. Will fix that later. =P

Insane:
00:30:97 (1) - remove new combo
01:40:40 (7) - place under the purple 2/4 @.@ Don't understand this part too. >.<

Much better than before. Star.

Thanks for the great mod and the star ! P.S. : Finally got your star. =D
I will fix more storyboard problems afterwards. Storyboard is kinda hard to grasp. =P Thanks guys !
Topic Starter
alvisto

alan_629_6 wrote:

Hi ! Sorry for the late come. I try my best. Those mistakes that other people say already I won't say anymore, ok ?

Easy - Ok. The slider moves too fast. Change it slower ?

Normal - I didn't notice any mistake.

Hard - The slow slider parts are ugly. Change ?

Insane -
1:20:216 (9) - Alignment is a bit off.
1:20:782 (1) - The beats too near. Make it farer.
1:22:857 - Same.

Also, please recheck some of the beat placement. Some are not straight and some look weird. Also the white flash background at the end of the song is off. Fix it.

Good luck !
Lol, you finally came ! Thanks for the comments. I just uploaded my newest map. Will do your fix soon. It should be fast, except those storyboard fix. =P
Breeze
现在这个map看起来已经很棒了
不过还是没有完全的按照distance snap来做,spacing有些地方不是那么的对
不过问题不大

[easy]
看起来已经没什么问题了,不过结束的地方让人觉得突然断了,为什么不做完呢?

[normal]
00:11:725 (1) - 这个spacing没对
00:22:291 (1) - ^,不过这个还好
也还是结尾的问题

[hard]
00:04:337 (1,2,3) - 这3个note声音听起来不怎么爽,降低一些比较好
00:08:518 (1) - 被前面还没完全消失的note挡住,会比较花,不建议这么放
00:09:050 (1,2,3) - 看来你喜欢这么放,好吧,也没什么问题,无视我吧
01:32:870 (1) - 又被前面的note挡住了

[insane]
没发现什么问题,great


比我第一个map强很多啊TAT,真厉害
Topic Starter
alvisto

Breeze wrote:

现在这个map看起来已经很棒了 谢谢!
不过还是没有完全的按照distance snap来做,spacing有些地方不是那么的对
不过问题不大 我是有用distance snap,只是有些地方我要强调它的距离感。=P

[easy]
看起来已经没什么问题了,不过结束的地方让人觉得突然断了,为什么不做完呢? 最初原因是懒惰,哈哈,第二原因是,我感觉那个ending好像很震撼!

[normal]
00:11:725 (1) - 这个spacing没对
00:22:291 (1) - ^,不过这个还好
也还是结尾的问题

[hard]
00:04:337 (1,2,3) - 这3个note声音听起来不怎么爽,降低一些比较好fix
00:08:518 (1) - 被前面还没完全消失的note挡住,会比较花,不建议这么放fix
00:09:050 (1,2,3) - 看来你喜欢这么放,好吧,也没什么问题,无视我吧fix,我好像很喜欢大大声的beat,哈哈
01:32:870 (1) - 又被前面的note挡住了fix
眼力真好!

[insane]
没发现什么问题,great


比我第一个map强很多啊TAT,真厉害你过奖了。=P
Z-Ramm
Easy
01:20:78 (1) - This note needs to be hit right after the spinner ends, and considering that this is an Easy, I think that might be a little bit difficult for noobs. You could remove the note, adjust spinner length, move this note closer to the center of the screen so it's more obvious, etc.

Normal
02:00:78 (1,2,3,4) - This whole sequence just seems arbitrarily placed to me, I can't tell what it's following. Maybe change this up to follow the bass-ish part a bit, kind of like a simplified version of what you did on Hard.

Hard
00:01:82 (1) - Move to next white tick, add a note before it in the empty space if necessary.
00:02:00 (2) - Move beginning to next red tick. Keep the endpoint where it is now. These two changes will make it sound a lot better.
01:26:44 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not saying you necessarily have to change anything, but this pattern confused the crap out of me at first. It seems like something that would belong on Insane.

Insane
01:20:31 - Add a circle here.

Very nice map for your first. Starred. ;)
Topic Starter
alvisto

Z-Ramm wrote:

Easy
01:20:78 (1) - This note needs to be hit right after the spinner ends, and considering that this is an Easy, I think that might be a little bit difficult for noobs. You could remove the note, adjust spinner length, move this note closer to the center of the screen so it's more obvious, etc. Thanks, good eye ! Fix it !

Normal
02:00:78 (1,2,3,4) - This whole sequence just seems arbitrarily placed to me, I can't tell what it's following. Maybe change this up to follow the bass-ish part a bit, kind of like a simplified version of what you did on Hard. Thanks ! I had fix it ! It used to sync with the music, but I forgot to edit it once I change the offset and BPM. =P

Hard
00:01:82 (1) - Move to next white tick, add a note before it in the empty space if necessary. Nice ear ! Now this sounds a hell lot better.
00:02:00 (2) - Move beginning to next red tick. Keep the endpoint where it is now. These two changes will make it sound a lot better. Same.
01:26:44 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not saying you necessarily have to change anything, but this pattern confused the crap out of me at first. It seems like something that would belong on Insane. I like this, sorry. =P

Insane
01:20:31 - Add a circle here. Fix !

Very nice map for your first. Starred. ;)
Thanks for the great mod and star ! =D
Takuma
General:
I don't really how the video goes blank for awhile, then appears, then it repeats. Also, your SB is a bit odd imo.

Hard:
00:02:10 (2) - Too close to (1).
01:01:53 (1,2,3) - This is a little too big spacing - please tone it down a bit.
01:26:44 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - It looks fun to play, but it looks messy. Can you fix it maybe?
01:51:63 (1) - Remove new combo. 1/4th back on the timeline, then move 01:51:91 (2) away.
01:52:29 (3) - New combo.
01:52:85 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
02:02:66 (4) - New combo.

Normal:
00:19:27 (1) - Remove new combo.

Easy:
02:02:66 (3) - New combo.

Starred.
Ryuukun
[Overall]
I think kiai mode is a bit overused on this map

[Easy]
No Problems

[Normal]
No Problems

[Hard]
01:06:82 (2) - i would set this one, one 1/2 tick later (on the white) and add a circle here 01:07:38
00:10:40 (2) - This one should start here 00:10:49
01:44:65 (1) - set this one here 01:44:60 - (1 1/8 tick earlier)
01:51:63 (1) - set this one here 01:51:58 - (1 1/8 tick earlier)

[Insane]
No Problems
lukewarmholiday
VALKYRIE PROFILE?! update with ryuu's moddings and I'll look at it. ping me inn #mod.
Topic Starter
alvisto

Takuma wrote:

General:
I don't really how the video goes blank for awhile, then appears, then it repeats. Also, your SB is a bit odd imo. I understand your senseness of odd, coz I feel odd the 1st time too, so, I need other's opinion, since I used 2 full days to create this storyboard. (storyboard is new to me you see)

Hard:
00:02:10 (2) - Too close to (1). Fix
01:01:53 (1,2,3) - This is a little too big spacing - please tone it down a bit. Fix
01:26:44 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - It looks fun to play, but it looks messy. Can you fix it maybe? This is 1 of my favourite part of HARD, so, I would like to see how other people thinks, if it is really too messy, then I would fix it. =P Sorry...
01:51:63 (1) - Remove new combo. In case you didn't notice, every new odd combo there (like this one, a standalone 1) indicates there's a new clap there, so I would like other's opinion as well on this. 1/4th back on the timeline, then move 01:51:91 (2) away. Fix, this sounds certainly better.
01:52:29 (3) - New combo. Same reason as above
01:52:85 (1,1) - Remove new combo. ^
02:02:66 (4) - New combo. Fix

Normal:
00:19:27 (1) - Remove new combo. Fix

Easy:
02:02:66 (3) - New combo. Fix

Ryuukun wrote:

[Overall]
I think kiai mode is a bit overused on this map. Ok, will fix that later

[Easy]
No Problems

[Normal]
No Problems

[Hard]
01:06:82 (2) - i would set this one, one 1/2 tick later (on the white) and add a circle here 01:07:38 Did I have this part ? I am confused >.<
00:10:40 (2) - This one should start here 00:10:49 Fix
01:44:65 (1) - set this one here 01:44:60 - (1 1/8 tick earlier) I used 1/4, would it be confusing to fix this ? 1/8 tick earlier certainly sounds better. i need opinions on this as well, since someone said stick to 1/4 the whole time.
01:51:63 (1) - set this one here 01:51:58 - (1 1/8 tick earlier) Do I have this note ? =O Did you modded my old version of my map ?

[Insane]
No Problems
Starred.
Thanks for all the great & generous mod !
lukewarmholiday
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
bagnz0r
[Insane]
00:41:159 - You lack one note here.
(Reinsert break)
And spacing feels weird.
Star.
gdeath
nice map!
easy:
01:04:17 (2)最好是堆垛在(3)的上面。作为easy难度,我个人是不太喜欢这种pattern,这对easy来说快速的二连有点困难。不过不改也没什么问题。

normal:
01:27:952 (5) 间隔。应该往下拉点。后面(6,7,8)的note记得也要一起修改。

hard:
fine

insane:
00:11:159 (2) 取消start的whistle.end部分留着。这样听起来更好听些。

i played this game and cleared it.继续加油吧^_^
stared~
Topic Starter
alvisto

lukewarmholiday wrote:

Hard
01:00:78 (4) - New combo since the combo is a little after the slider

Insane
00:39:27 (6) - Move closer to 5
01:25:87 (5,6,7) - Move further from 4, its a little underspaced Nice eye !
01:31:34 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Uhh what, 4,5,6 are overspaced then 9 is too close to 8 Nice eye !

I like it, it's sloppy but you're a new mapper.
All fix ! Thanks for the star !


BagnoGamer wrote:

[Insane]
00:41:159 - You lack one note here. Fix !
(Reinsert break)
And spacing feels weird. Which part ?
Star. Thanks for the star !

gdeath wrote:

nice map!
easy:
01:04:17 (2)最好是堆垛在(3)的上面。作为easy难度,我个人是不太喜欢这种pattern,这对easy来说快速的二连有点困难。不过不改也没什么问题。改了^o^

normal:
01:27:952 (5) 间隔。应该往下拉点。后面(6,7,8)的note记得也要一起修改。good eye !

hard:
fine

insane:
00:11:159 (2) 取消start的whistle.end部分留着。这样听起来更好听些。 Fix !

i played this game and cleared it.继续加油吧^_^
stared~
我连我自己都不能过insane呢,哈哈。谢谢你的star ! ^o^

Thank you guys for all the great mods ! Deeply appreciated. =P
hunter_87
Hi ! I am here to support you !

我只能玩easy 和normal罢了,很好的一个map ! Star !
antony11
Offset 405 seem lillte bit slow for me i suggest you to use 400

Afer my quick look, Easy fine for me

Hard:
00:15:12 (8) - late 1/4 beat
01:01:72 (2) - late 1/4 beat
01:26:81 (2) and 01:27:56 (5) - same with ablove
01:28:89 (5) - early 1/4 beat

Insane:
00:35:40 (2) and 00:36:06 (5) - early 1/4beat

Normal:
01:26:44 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 3 slider move early 1/4 beat and make it longer
01:38:80 (2) and 01:39:55 (4) - early 1/4

Started
Topic Starter
alvisto

antony11 wrote:

Offset 405 seem lillte bit slow for me i suggest you to use 400

Afer my quick look, Easy fine for me

Hard:
00:15:12 (8) - late 1/4 beat
01:01:72 (2) - late 1/4 beat
01:26:81 (2) and 01:27:56 (5) - same with ablove
01:28:89 (5) - early 1/4 beat

Insane:
00:35:40 (2) and 00:36:06 (5) - early 1/4beat

Normal:
01:26:44 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 3 slider move early 1/4 beat and make it longer
01:38:80 (2) and 01:39:55 (4) - early 1/4

Started
Hmmm.... Seems like all the moddings that you suggested involve modifying the 1:26:81 part. Your suggestions is not bad, but it totally changes how those beats sound. So, for now I will still keep it, unless everybody is against it. XD Thanks for your great modding ! =D
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