This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, January 01, 2007 at 7:47:37 PM

Artist: David Rolfe
Title: Unbeatable (TV Size)
Source: Pokemon: Advanced Battle
Tags: Pokemon Unbeatable Pokemon: Advanced Battle
BPM: 152
Filesize: 9772kb
Play Time: 00:56
Difficulties Available:

1. Combusken (4.45 stars, 97 notes)
2. Rayquaza (4.94 stars, 167 notes)
3. Swampert (4.68 stars, 133 notes)
4. Treecko (2.57 stars, 68 notes)

Download: David Rolfe - Unbeatable (TV Size)
Download: David Rolfe - Unbeatable (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is the third opening theme song of the Pokemon: Advanced Generation Series.

I hope you liked this catchy upbeat song as much as I liked mapping it.

I'm Unbeatable!

1 timing section
BPM: 152.00
Offset: 3,778

Edit: Nevermind I was wrong here.

OK here goes my modding:
[all]
Timing: 152.05
When that's changed,
Resnap the circles (timing bar)
Then, Update the map so i can do some Real modding to it

charlesisgay wrote:

OK here goes my modding:
[all]
Timing: 152.05
When that's changed,
Resnap the circles (timing bar)
Then, Update the map so i can do some Real modding to it

Updated.

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Pokemon - Unbeatable (NoHItter) [Zek's Sample].osu

Zekira wrote:

Time to get advise from someone who's actually experienced rofl. Ang dami kong sasabihin :\

1.) When in doubt, or when you have inexperience in timing, don't be afraid to post the song in Help with a random offset and BPM then place one note -- just make sure that you're actually asking for the timing so that people will know rofl.
2.) Distance snap is there to make maps the proper way they are. It is most preferable the new mappers would follow constant distance snap of 1.0x for the entire map. Average mappers would know where jumps are appropriate.
3.) Don't take hitsounds lightly -- hitsounds are what make beatmaps unique from stepcharts and drumcharts.
4.) Don't abuse spinners. Spinners should be lengthy enough but not too long.
5.) Get a better-quality MP3. There are threads somewhere here in Help wherein you could ask for an MP3.
6.) on that note, be sure to choose 'Full Submit' everytime there are media changes.
7.) Make sliders look neat. Ugly sliders are reason enough to ignore the map.

These are general rules I can tell you right now, and when I can actually see that this map is now feasible, I'll be looking back at it again. For now here's a sample map I just made of this song (copy the offset and BPM from this one) (simply download this .osu file and save it at the same folder as your song in the osu/songs folder):

[attachment=0:9223b]Pokemon - Unbeatable (NoHItter) [Zek's Sample].osu[/attachment:9223b] -- btw this was trashed with 2.0x distance snapping so just tweak that one with HoldAlt + dragging the bar at the upper-right

Also, when you change the timing, you have to resnap (use the one in the Timing Setup Panel Dialog Box) -- but if you changed the BPM, you'll have to go through the entire map again (it's not that hard, just a bit time consuming) and place the notes properly on which colored tick they should be. Snapping to 1/4s is the most advisable (unless your map is following 1/3 or 1/6 of course), so do that too.

I hope you learn something from this since I suck at teaching lol.

EDIT: Hey, who the heck told you to put my sample map in the mapset D:

Thanks for the tips. Applied distance snappingto Swampert difficulty.

Tinangal ko na. Masaya ka na?

Kailangan ko pa i-mod 'to paunti-unti... D: 'di ko pa imomod ang spacing hah...

[Treecko]
00:05:62 (1,2,3,4,1) - move 1/4 later
00:13:90 (3) - delete this
00:11:83 (1,2) - move 1/2 later
00:14:99 (1) - move 1/2 later
00:17:95 (1,2,3) - move 1/4 ealier
00:23:27 (2) - move 1/4 earlier
00:25:94 (1,2,3) - move 1/4 earlier
00:31:07 (4,5) - move 1/4 earlier
00:32:25 (1,2,3) - move 1/4 earlier
00:35:80 (1,2,3,4) - move 1/4 earlier
00:41:62 (1) - overlapping u-turn sliders are not allowed
00:44:98 (3) - move 1/2 later

Friggin' hell...

[Combusken]
00:00:68 (1) - move 1/4 earlier
00:02:46 (4,5,6) - move 1/4 later
00:05:81 (1,2,3,4) - move 1/4 earlier
00:08:48 (1,2) - 1/4 earlier
00:10:45 (3,4,5) - 1/2 earlier
00:16:37 (4) - reduce length by 1/4 beat
00:18:04 (1,2,3) - 1/4 earlier
00:27:71 (1,2) - 1/4 earlier
00:29:48 (1,2,3) - 1/4 earlier
00:31:06 (1,2) - 1/4 earlier
00:32:24 (1,2,3,4) - 1/4 earlier
00:35:80 (1,2,3,4) - 1/4 earlier
00:38:36 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1/4 earlier
00:41:71 (1) - 1/4 earlier

[Swampert]
00:05:62 (1,2,3) - 1/4 later
00:06:60 (5) - 1/4 later
00:07:49 (6) - 1/4 later
00:08:77 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 1/4 later
00:16:27 (1) - 1/4 later
00:17:65 (1,2,3) - 1/4 earlier
00:24:16 (1,2,3,4) - 1/4 later

[Rayquaza]
Did someone forget to resnap again >_>

No need to thank me. Here:

Download: Pokemon-Unbeatable.mp3

Replace this MP3 with the one that's currently in your folder, then use this timing:

BPM: 152.05
Offset: 144. Resnap uh, I think you'll have to move a lot of stuff manually again... (this is of course assuming you have applied the above fixes I said already)


So if you haven't fixed the notes, do so first, then replace this MP3 and tweak the timing. Don't forget to full submit.

And with this, I end modding for now. I'll probably come back when this has received a lot of tweaks regarding mapping.
Comment about the mapping though -- the beat placing on the timeline is good, but the spacing is still scattered so have someone else look at that for you. Here's a primary example:

00:33:48 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - equally timing-distanced but jumping at random places.

But this one, it's actually allowed -- 00:44:73 (1,2,3) -- it's actually quite a nice extreme jump. But 00:46:11 (4,5,6,7) shouldn't be the same pattern since 5 and 6 aren't 1/2 apart like the 1,2,3.

Zekira wrote:

No need to thank me. Here:

[attachment=0:4b594]Pokemon-Unbeatable.mp3[/attachment:4b594]

Replace this MP3 with the one that's currently in your folder, then use this timing:

BPM: 152.05
Offset: 144. Resnap uh, I think you'll have to move a lot of stuff manually again... (this is of course assuming you have applied the above fixes I said already)


So if you haven't fixed the notes, do so first, then replace this MP3 and tweak the timing. Don't forget to full submit.

And with this, I end modding for now. I'll probably come back when this has received a lot of tweaks regarding mapping.
Comment about the mapping though -- the beat placing on the timeline is good, but the spacing is still scattered so have someone else look at that for you. Here's a primary example:

00:33:48 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - equally timing-distanced but jumping at random places.

But this one, it's actually allowed -- 00:44:73 (1,2,3) -- it's actually quite a nice extreme jump. But 00:46:11 (4,5,6,7) shouldn't be the same pattern since 5 and 6 aren't 1/2 apart like the 1,2,3.

Done. replacing mp3.

[overall]

offset = 5.076
resnap with 1/4th

go over everything with distance snap on

i will mod again after you done this

x3ns0r wrote:

[overall]

offset = 5.076
resnap with 1/4th

go over everything with distance snap on

i will mod again after you done this

Offset is 5.076?

It doesn't sound right.

Artist is David Rolfe, not Pokemon. Source is Pokemon: Advanced Battle


Full submit after you do that.

Here is the correct timing

BPM: 152.000
Offset: 170

Resnap notes, recalculate slider lengths.

Also, enable distance snap (lower right hand corner). Go over and respace every note. You can add some jumps afterwards.

Do this for every difficulty and your map will be 100x better. ;) Will mod again after you do that.

Ekaru wrote:

Artist is David Rolfe, not Pokemon. Source is Pokemon: Advanced Battle


Full submit after you do that.

Here is the correct timing

BPM: 152.000
Offset: 170

Resnap notes, recalculate slider lengths.

Also, enable distance snap (lower right hand corner). Go over and respace every note. You can add some jumps afterwards.

Do this for every difficulty and your map will be 100x better. Will mod again after you do that.

Changed the artist and the source.

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Ok, here's The Fixed Treecko.
It Really didnt sound good, before.
Ill give you the other diffs later.

Download: Pokemon - David Rolfe - Unbeatable (NoHItter) [Treecko].osu

Oh, and here is a Background suggestion.
The current one seems to be a bit, err, Upscaled.

So, Here's Combusken!

Download: Pokemon - David Rolfe - Unbeatable (NoHItter) [Combusken].osu

Swampert's up!

Download: Pokemon - David Rolfe - Unbeatable (NoHItter) [Swampert].osu

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Pokemon - David Rolfe - Unbeatable (NoHItter) [Rayquaza].osu

Thanks a lot on the Treecko diff you did make it better

On the Combusken and Rayquaza diffs I made minor changes based on your mod.

The background is cool and all but it seems inappropriate for this beatmap (ask Zekira why.)

And about the Swampert diff you modded. The original seems fine to me.

This is the time that I gotta do what you requested me to do. Anyway, here goes some of suggestions that I have for your beatmap.

Treecko:
You could add your past diff and still retain charlesisgay's diff. Of course, you should put his name there.

Combusken:
I believe there's a missing beat. I'll notify you some other time on the whereabouts of it.

Swampert:
No comment on this one.

Rayquaza:
Try to relocate/re-snap some of the beats. I'll also add this to the notification that I'll give you.

Overall:
The beatmap had a lot of improvements ever since you gave it to me for some testing. Good luck on your other beatmaps, though. And I'll try to mod this as soon as I could find time.

I will be so disappointed if you just replaced the diffs here with whatever charles gave.

I didn't replace everything mind you.

I looked at the beatmap and made a decision that curved sliders>straight sliders.

I didn't actually just copy paste them.

Starred.

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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Nice beatmap. Starred.

A few timing issues:

BPM: 152.05 (sounds okay)
1st offset: 164 (20-30ms off what you originally had)
2nd offset: 25,432 (see above)

[Treecko]
00:14:56 (1) - Too early. Extend to the half beats before and after where it is currently situated.

[Combusken]
00:19:87 (4) - Don't jump on sub 5-star maps. Nobody likes it. Looks tacky and doesn't fit with the song at all.

[Swampert]

No anomalies that I can see.

[Rayquaza]
00:37:04 (8) - Snapping issues. Bigtime

Decent map all around. No reason for me not to star it really.

Ephemeral wrote:

A few timing issues:

BPM: 152.05 (sounds okay)
1st offset: 164 (20-30ms off what you originally had)
2nd offset: 25,432 (see above)

[Treecko]
00:14:56 (1) - Too early. Extend to the half beats before and after where it is currently situated.

[Combusken]
00:19:87 (4) - Don't jump on sub 5-star maps. Nobody likes it. Looks tacky and doesn't fit with the song at all.

[Swampert]

No anomalies that I can see.

[Rayquaza]
00:37:04 (8) - Snapping issues. Bigtime

Decent map all around. No reason for me not to star it really.

Done. Thanks alot.

Resnap all notes on all difficulties. Add kiai at 00:25:40 and end it at 00:49:47. Uh, what is your storyboard doing?

Treecko:

00:00:14 (1) - Remove. It interferes with the flow of the beginning.
00:03:30 (1) - Might want to curve this in some way (~ sliders are cool)
00:17:11 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:17:50 (6) - New combo, add finish.
00:20:26 (1) - 1/1 forward, add finish, add circle in its place.
00:22:06 - A spinner would be better here.
00:23:34 - Remove break.
00:28:95 (7) - New combo.
00:30:34 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
00:44:74 (5) - New combo.
00:46:12 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
00:50:36 - Pretty large blank space here. Map it.

Combusken:

00:00:14 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Remove, breaks flow etc.
00:19:87 (4) - 1/2 back.
00:20:26 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:20:66 (6) - New combo, add finish.
00:22:63 (1) - Extend to 00:24:62, remove all notes in the next combo.
00:27:38 (2) - Spacing.
00:29:15 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
00:29:35 (1) - Change to slider.
00:30:53 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:44:94 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
00:45:13 (1) - Change to slider.
00:46:32 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:50:46 - Large blank space.
00:55:00 (1) - Remove, the time after the spinner doesn't give a player at the level to play this difficulty enough time to react.

Swampert:

00:00:14 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Remove, flow breaking blargh.
00:11:39 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - This pattern is seemingly random. Try mapping it more to the vocals?
00:14:54 (1) - This spinner is out of place. It feels anticlimatic, so remove it.
00:20:26 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Again, it's just a random 1/2 'stream'.
00:28:95 (1,1,1) - These jumps are silly, and remove new combo on the second and third.
00:30:34 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:41:19 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing.
00:44:74 (1,1,1) - Again, with the jumps and removing combos.
00:46:12 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:50:46 - Blank space.
00:54:01 (1) - Remove, it's unfair to players of this blahblahblah.
00:54:80 (4) - Make this spacing less insane.

Rayquaza:

00:00:14 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Remove.
00:15:13 (3,4) - This spacing is what.
00:17:11 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:17:50 (13) - New combo.
00:20:26 (1) - Unfair jump, remove new combo.
00:20:66 (9) - New combo.
00:24:41 (3,4,5) - Spacing what. Use a spinner?
00:27:17 (1) - Spacing.
00:29:14 (1,1) - Remove new combo, slider.
00:30:34 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:32:89 (6,7,1) - Spacing.
00:38:42 (2,3,4,5) - Spacing.
Er, just distance snap the rest of the difficulty, practically every combo has a spacing problem.
00:44:94 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
00:46:12 (1) - Remove new combo.

nice song great maps

star

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Mafiamaster wrote:

I think you're missing a spinner picture. ;_;

Tree co.~

1. 00:13:38 (2) - Move closer to 1.
2. 00:28:56 (6) - Move closer to 5's endpoint.
3. 00:50:67 (6) - Suggestion: Add a finish at the end?

Combustion~

1. 00:37:83 (1) - Imo, it would sound better starting on the white tick at 00:38:03.
2. 00:51:84 (4) - Suggestion: Add a finish.

Mudkipz aka Swampart~

1. 00:25:40 (1) - Suggestion: Finish?
2. 00:30:93 (6,7) - Imo, the finish sound would sound better at 6.
3. 00:39:02 (3) - Move farther from 2.

Rayquazer~

1. 00:17:13 (11) - New combo.
2. 00:17:52 (1) - Remove new combo.
3. 00:25:40 (1) - Suggestion: Finish?
4. 00:30:93 (5,6) - Finish sound would sound better at 5.
5. 00:49:28 (8) - New combo.
6. 00:50:46 (14) - Remove finish sound.
7. 00:50:66 (1) - Add finish sound.
8. 00:51:25 (4) - Suggestion: ^
9. 00:51:84 (7) - Suggestion: ^
10. 00:55:79 (1) - Start this on the white tick. Don't forget to shorten to the nearest white tick too.

Mhm! It's coming along great~

Thanks.

Mafiamaster wrote:

[*]00:50:66 (1) - Add finish sound.
[*]00:51:25 (4) - Suggestion: ^
[*]00:51:84 (7) - Suggestion: ^

hi) there's only suggestions, that can be ignored as well
[Treecko]
00:04:713 (1) - maybe put it in the line with end of the slider [?]
00:07:687 (4, 1) - ^ [?]
00:10:719 (4, 1) - gap is too much for the easy diff. i think
00:19:894 (1, 3) - put it in a line for better looking [?]

[combusken]
00:10:226 (6, 7) is it intended? if not, put 7 in a line with 6 i think
00:11:620 (1, 2) imo this line lloks a bit wreid in test mode. [?]
00:36:654 (3, 4) maybe put this pattern to the left a bit, right under the end of slider [?]
00:46:322 (4) - put it in a line with end of 3 [?]

[Swampest]
00:36:461 (3, 4) mb put it right above of the end of 3?

[Rayquaza]
00:20:288 (1) spacing [?]

That's all. Nice map, star 4 you =)

Suggestions, not orders!~

Treeko
Combusken
Swampert
Rayquazaa

NoHItter, i'm only suggesting these modifications. If you do not wish to use them, then dont.

Offset: Ok
Timing section 1: Ok
Timing section 2: 152.01 BPM (Make sure to resnap every note manually once you've changed it)

Treecko:
00:39:61 (3) - 1 (lvl 3 grid) right and down.
00:55:00 (1) - remove clap

Combusken:
00:19:89 (4) - Distance snap this note or make it a new combo
00:55:79 (1) - remove clap

Swampert:
00:13:38 (6) - Distance snap this slider
00:16:14 (2) - 1 (lvl 3 grid) left and up
00:16:34 (3) - 2 (lvl 3 grid) left
00:16:73 (4) - 1 (lvl 3 grid) up
00:23:84 (1,2,3,4) - Finish sound
00:25:40 (1) - remove finish sound
00:46:12 (4,5,6,7) - Distance snap or new combo (prefer distance snap)
00:56:18 (1) - Remove clap

Rayquaza:
00:30:34 (3,4,5,6) - reorganize this triangle, use distance snap pls
00:46:12 (3,4,5,6) - reorganize this triangle, use distance snap pls

Some beats became unreadable because of the skin. I suggest making the colors (or rather the color gradient) less bright or less dark, because the gradient is interfering.


EDIT: The BG pic is irritating, IMO. Why not just make it 1 whole big pic rather than 4 then turning back to 1?

jockeytiyan wrote:

Some beats became unreadable because of the skin. I suggest making the colors (or rather the color gradient) less bright or less dark, because the gradient is interfering.


EDIT: The BG pic is irritating, IMO. Why not just make it 1 whole big pic rather than 4 then turning back to 1?

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Try redownloading. . .

Here's my mod

Green = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Treecko]
00:53:81 (3) - Newer players may be confused by this; try placing it at 00:53:62 and see if it works for
you
No Problems Found

[Combusken]
No problems Found

[Swampert]
00:08:25 (8) - Maybe a note here?

No Problems Found

[Rayquaza]
No Problems Found

Whoaaaaaaooooo~ Pokemon....... ADVANCE BATTLE!

Starred ;p

Treecko:
No problems

Combusken:
No problems

Swampert:
The combo between 0:08:253 and 0:10:621 sounds odd to me. If they follow the vocals, would you adjust it please?

Rayquaza:
No complaints

Overall:
You could make a pokemon-themed spinnercircle. I think there are alot of rotating pokemon around <_< ofcourse, its optional starred.

I like the Swedish openings better Ahem.
[Treeko]

0:23:445: A break here would be nice
00:26:59 (3,6) - I suggest you delete those circles (they are pretty confusing and hard for and easy diff)

[combusken]

00:11:80 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This part is confusing.....but if you like it you can keep it

[Swampbert]

00:15:15 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Also confusing
00:30:53 (5,6) - It would be more fun if it was a jump between 5 and 6
00:46:32 (5,6) - ^ Same as above ^

[Rayquaza]

00:04:80 (8,9) - I would prefer if you deleted those but you can keep them if you want
00:37:04 (8) - Remove the finish on this slider
00:54:21 (1,2,3) - Why is this part harder on Swampbert?.....

Solid map, It's not perfect but it's pretty good made!
*star*

fzeromaster wrote:

Overall:
You could make a pokemon-themed spinnercircle. I think there are alot of rotating pokemon around <_< ofcourse, its optional starred.

you might wanna use this pokemon ( Poliwhirl or w/e ),, kinda trippy:P
Try to cut out his belly, and make that swirl. I think it'll look awesome (i'm not really in the pokemon age zone anymore xD)



Try to find a good picture of it. GL!

1. Delete all unused .osb files.
2. Delete "pokemon.jpg".
3. 00:55:398 - try using this pattern (except Treecko)

~Treecko~
00:55:00 (1) - move starting point to 00:55:398

~Combusken~
00:38:03 (2,3) - too confused for normal-like diff

~Swampert~
00:07:46 (7) - nearly offscreen, you should move up a bit

~Rayquaza~
00:27:38 (2,3) - too close
00:51:64 (6,7,8) - move up a bit to make them look prettier


+Star

[Overall]
- Make diff names like [Treecko (Easy)] etc.
- Harder diffs are IMO overmapped.

[Treecko]
00:03:32 (1) - 1/2 longer.
00:28:56 (6) - delete it?

[Swampert]
Uh, nothing.

[Rayquaza]
00:04:50 (5,6,7,8,9) - remove claps.
00:04:89 (9) - delete it.
00:07:26 (8,9), 00:08:45 (1,2) - I'm not sure if overlap like these is rankable. And even if it is, it's still fucking ugly.

[Combusken]
00:19:10 (3,4) - SPAACING!
00:52:24 (1) - end at 00:54:017 (or ever earlier), then add hitcircles at 00:54:21 and 00:54:60 (2).


Starred.

Overall : These map should be given a normal hitsound twist like in 00:50:662

Treecko :
I don't see anything wrong

Combusken :
00:11:607 (1,2) - I would like these note to be remap to easier, it makes me go wtf

Swampert :
No, nothing.

Rayquaza :
^

I love this song, star

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Rayquaza:
okay

Combusken:
00:19:10 (3,4) - Ugh, this spacing...

Swampert:
fine

treecko:
00:25:40 (1,2,3) - don't stack these. Move 2 and 3 away.

Also, remove the "pokemon.png" from the storyboard.

Larto wrote:

Combusken:
00:19:10 (3,4) - Ugh, this spacing...

treecko:
00:25:40 (1,2,3) - don't stack these. Move 2 and 3 away.

Also, remove the "pokemon.png" from the storyboard.

Done