winber1 wrote:

spacing is a little funky.. i guess i'll see what the mods will say.

KanaRin wrote:

As your request~
Taiko mod here~

[Ono's Taiko]

Just suggestion.
- Can you hange the OD to 5 ? 6 is fine
- Difficulty all 5 as well. 6 is fine

00:35:484 (2,3) - Big KAT done~
00:56:679 (2,3) - Umm.. I think you should stop 1/3 part for a break here. (Just del the note) done~
Then,
00:56:901 (2) - Add a note here. (D) done~
00:57:012 (3,1) - Del the note done~
So the next 1/3 part start in 00:57:234 (1) - Yeah, i think it should be more better.
01:50:734 (2) - Del the note done~
01:51:401 (2) - ^ it's okay now after I delted th first one, increase of the diff. after first one.
02:05:233 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,1) - I don't suggest you do that.
I think slider will be better. Mh, I will keep that in mind and think about it.

My Rating : 7 / 10

Good enough~
Star>w<

Leorda wrote:

Ono's Taiko Oni
* Set the AudioLeadIn to "2360" inside the notepad
* Add "Flandre" and "Scarlet" inside the tags

wmfchris wrote:

taiko mod~

-> I don't understand why you use dkd-dkd-dkd-dkd for the triplet section in the beginning, it's obviously kddkddkdd... D:
I think it should be all kddkdd..., without such variation, it really sounds bad with the music I changed the beginning but I didn't changed it after @@

00:33:401 - d kkd changed~
0:35 ~ 0:45 - reduce some triplets >_> changed~
00:44:734 - sould be triplet changed~
00:45:234 - spinner... No and I hate them.
0:46~0:50 - sounds weird ._. break? Uuh, no sorry.
00:54:123 - snap in 1/4 snaped 1/4 but otherwise
01:09:234 - k--k--k-d---d---... WoW! O_O changed~
01:10:568 - why long streams D: changed~
1:47~1:50 - excess triplet, odd long stream ._. I don't understand, but I like it how it is.
01:53:324 - d ddk k d d k > d ddk k d kdk
02:05:324 - spinnerrrrrr I'm gonna go ask lepidopodus now. lol

Rating (-1~1)
Pattern : 0.5
Density - you're seriously overmapping this don't you? : 0 You should know me better now. ww
star for Flandre ._.

Mystica wrote:

[Easy]I see you just use 1/6...I'm not very confirm that if it suitable for a beginner.Bus seems ok
SV is 1.2 may a little hard for beginner
other seems fine.
someplace may use too many clap.May decrease some?

OnosakiHito wrote:

Okay, I downladed the song again from the same link and got a better quality.
But I can't figure out why the offset is now wrong when I downloaded the same one like you. lol
Well I can give you as help the new offset from me. You need to decided to take it or get a better one:
Offset 1151
MP3 File
After you managed the offset problem, I will updated my diff. once again.

1. Taiko diff's offset is different with others.
2. audio lean-in: 2000ms.

1. 00:39:817 (4,5,6) - this is a bit confusing in a normal, set a new combo on (6) or fix the spacing plz.

Colin Hou wrote:

[General]:
[list][*]Taiko diff's offset is different with others.

Suzully wrote:

Thank you for mod request~
But I think my mod is not needed now.

Only star for your nice beatmap and song!!
I'm looking forward to playing this beatmap after ranked~!

1. stack leniency +1.

1. 00:14:466 (T) - unused section (this happened in all diffs, remove them plz)

1. 01:41:150 (2) - HP bar touch
2. 01:49:150 (3) - ^
3. 02:01:150 (1) - ^ and don't forget 02:02:150 (2).

Louis Cyphre wrote:

Metal Remix is necessary.

Colin Hou wrote:

ok now bubbled

that part has 1/4 notes, but only a few ones, much better now

poped for now :<

1. The easier difficulty should not exceed 3.00 Star rating, in addition, the normal difficulty have confusing patterns for new players.

1. The title of the game is Embodiment of Scarlet Devil... not Devils. Remove the s from the tags.
2. Very noisy. The song is very loud and so are the hitsounds (although I'd like them to be a bit louder). Can you reduce the volume of the mp3 ?
3. I have an offset of 1136 (-10ms from yours)

1. The sliders are way too fast for a Normal, which resulsts in very high spacing and a very difficult diff despite "simple" rhythms.
2. Also the beginning is way above the rest in terms of difficulty. First off, starting that hard for the easiest diff of the mapset is not a good idea, and second off, it makes the whole diff inconsistent.
3. 00:07:812 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - These are way too hard for the beginning of a Normal diff. The BPM is very high, so 1/2 is already hard enough to play, but you add stacks to that (which make the rhythm difficult to read) and the repeat sliders are on red ticks, which make them sound weird and makes the rhyhm even more confusing.
4. 00:16:974 (1,2,3,1) - Them being on red ticks makes them sound weird, and make the rhthm rather confusing. I suggest you just cut that part and star on the white tick with 00:19:807 (2) -
5. 00:27:807 (1,2) - I didn't expect the last repeat on both at all.
6. 01:23:807 (1) - I think you should avoid such sliders for Normal diffs. They play weird and the sliderball movement might throw off new players. Besides, the time length of the slider doesn't match its visible length and that makes the timing of notes following confusing.
7. 01:25:807 (3) - This slider threw me off. I expected nothing like a 3/4 rhythm, then this slider kicks in and I missed the next note because of the surprising rhythm.
8. 01:43:807 (4) - Move it up so that it's "stacked" under that weird angle from the previous slider ?
9. 01:49:140 (3) - The last repeat surprised me.
10. 01:59:807 (3) - This slider is hidden under a previous slider. Also, I don't think such kick sliders are a good idea for Normal diffs, as the number of repeats can't be guessed, and new players wouldn't have the reflex of holding.

1. Some parts were really similar to Normal... That said, this does play like a Hard.
2. 00:35:140 (1) - Why this here ? It makes no sense whatsoever according to the song.
3. 00:44:140 (5) - I didn't expect a third repeat on this slider at all
4. 01:32:473 (2,3,4) - Move these a bit closer to (2) - I hesitated here when testplaying, wondering whether this was 1/2 or 1/1 apart.
5. 01:55:140 (1) - Why this here ? It makes no sense whatsoever according to the song.
6. 02:04:473 (7) - Why a kick slider here ? I don't think the song has any 1/4 at that point

1. 318 unsnapped objects...

Odaril wrote:

Ono's Taiko Oni
I don't understand the streams but it might just be me

• AR -2 and it's ok (2,99 stars)
  
  Then, I'll give you suggestions on combing, since this is the easier map you need more new combos imho.
  The, you will decide if you want to follow them or not ^^

1. 00:21:130 (4) - New combo
2. 00:23:797 (2) - ^
3. 00:26:463 (3) - ^
4. 00:31:797 (2) - ^
5. 00:34:463 (3) - ^
6. 00:37:130 (3) - ^
7. 00:39:797 (4) - ^
8. 00:42:464 (2) - ^
9. 01:03:797 (3) - ^
10. 01:06:464 (3) - ^
11. 01:09:130 (3) - ^
12. 01:11:797 (3) - ^
13. 01:25:130 (2) - ^
14. 01:27:630 (3) - Move it at 01:27:797, slider tick rate is very good here
15. 01:33:130 (4) - New combo
16. 01:46:463 (2) - ^
17. 01:49:130 (3) - ^
18. 01:51:797 (2) - ^
19. 01:54:463 (2) - ^
20. 01:59:797 (3) - ^

1. 00:17:630 (2,3) - Move at 00:17:463?
2. 01:13:130 (1,2,3) - I don't like the shape of the sliders (2-3). Slider (2): http://puu.sh/4LCJ For the slider (3) you can copy-past-flip horizontally-flip vertically-rotate by 50° and move it at x:80 y:56
   And fix the spacing with next notes..
3. 02:01:130 (1) - Whistle at the beginning and at the end.
4. 02:02:130 (2) - Whistle at the return

OnosakiHito wrote:

Something should really happen here. orz

wmfchris wrote:

If I skipped this will I be torn apart by Flandre?

[General]
tag scarlet as [taiko] does. it already is?
many unsnapped timelines, just make sure that they function normally and all hitsounds are as expected.
02:07:880 - end kiai here since 02:07:890 is not on tick ok

[Extra]
00:22:130 (6) - spacing, right 1+down 2 grids just for further patterns, i decided to keep this
00:26:130 (3) - right 1 grid to make it symmetrical k
01:08:130 (3,7) - (3) left 1 grid + (7) right 1 grid makes it more symmetrical :3 it's actually not these notes that are the problem, it's actually the corner notes , but i fixed that

[Challenging]
00:22:130 (8) - it sounds like this note's sound nearly can't be heard due to last whistle...putting whistle on (8) instead of (7) may sounds better. k
00:44:963 (5) - curve slightly away from (4) looks better for me (runk

[Hard]
01:19:130 (2,3) - stack properly k

somehow I like that awesome hitsound arrangements, nice usage on whistle over the whole slider lol
I don't find much problems there, [extra]'s jump occasionally looks random but it's ok.

- (the diff gap between [ex] and [challenging] feels a bit too large.)

winber1 wrote:

i have no idea, perhaps it's my offset? 1/3 doesn't sound that off, but some reason it's a little tiny bit more off than1/4. Even if it is 1/3, i feel that it is better to have 1/4 tick notes since i had just use 1/4 streams before it. It makes it more readable.

my offset has always been weird idk.

also, what do you mean by 1/12? that timing signature doesn't even exist, and 1/12 notes don't really exist? wat? With the way I mapped it, it's just in 4/4. you can always easily change from triplets to sixteenth notes in music in these common timing signature. Just because you changed the 1/3 doesn't mean i'm changing the timing signature of the map.

edit: and i meant my universal offset.

... i guess now i check 25% with the rest of the map, many of my notes seem a little earlier than the music, so it thus could have made that 1/3 tick sound a little early than it should have. I am not trying to be stubborn here, but i actually still feel it's better for the play to map this in 1/4, as the 1/3 is very unexpected especially since it seems that i have reverted back to the regular 1/4 ticks after that 1/3 section.

Anyways, your mod is very deeply appreciated. THanks for looking at this map. I wish could rank this soon >_> this map is quite old. asdfasdfadfssfsfsfs

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Aleks719 wrote:

:O
last post is mat's post. I'll be around if you will not get rebubble o.d

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p3n wrote:

Aleks719 wrote:

:O
last post is mat's post. I'll be around if you will not get rebubble o.d

At the time of posting this mod I was not in the MAT yet


recheck time~

[Normal]
00:29:130 (2) - the last repeat doesn't fit the melody follow here, better remove it 1) there is a guitar riff in the background which this repetas follows. 2) it keeps the pattern of the last slider, changing it could be only slightly confusing.
00:30:463 (1,2) - overlapping the HP bar, try to move everything down
00:34:463 (3) - ^ meh ok
01:25:797 (3,1) - wrong timing, those are 1/3 notes! I suggest replacing everything with a 1/3 repeat slider followed by a longer slider 01:26:463 (1,2) - to match difficulty settings: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/491685 (ignore object placement - just a quick sample for the timeline) interesting that i never fixed this.
01:49:130 (3) - again the last repeat is counter-intuitive, I highly recommend removing it to keep the melody follow up guitar riff in the background. this 2nd repeat sounds really nice to me



[Hard]
Seems you'll be keeping this around. Here we go then:
00:00:469 (1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - spacing is very inconsistent here. At least make a clear distinction between the longer 3/4 snaps 00:04:469 (1,2,3) - and the shorter 1/2 snaps 00:03:802 (3,1) - FORCING symmetry should not be the way to go. If the pattern can't be applied without turning the spacing into complete nonsense try a different pattern or don't use this kind of centered symmetry here at all. despite the inconsistency in the actual spacing, the actual spacing between the notes are quite consistent. The only thing I change in this pattern is 00:06:135 (1) - since that was the only one where it was a little counter-intuitive. But in general, since this pattern repeats itself so much, the player should already know the rhythm by then
01:26:463 (1) - suggestion: shape this slider to match the melody with the red waypoint and the resulting sharp turn: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/491689

long code is long...

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00:31:463 (2,3,4) - If you can, avoid this overlap as it seems cramped and unnecessary it's kinda weird, but i'm kinda hesitant to remove it. It doesn't look too bad to me and i like preserving the mapping style of this difficulty. kinda nostalgic in a way.
00:37:630 (3,4) - it is possible to move (3) and ctrl+g (4) to ovoid the overlap here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/491698
01:56:797 (2,3,4) - ^same actually, this overlap i actually still like some reason.
00:39:797 (3) - remove the last repeat to match the melody similar to normal. i also like the flow it just gives.
00:55:797 (3,4) - use the same jump distance here as in the previous combo: 00:53:130 (3,4) - don't see a point in doing this but okay
01:18:463 (1) - slider ending point is dangerously far outlol, doesn't really matter either but okay.
01:22:463 (3) - move ending point slightly to avoid overlap: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/491703 k
01:24:797 (2) - the timing is misleading. The slider before feels like melody follow but the circle doesn't match the melody. Most players will hit this note early and complain about how it feels "off". >ou could turn this into a short 1/4 slider to match melody and rhythm at the same time (start it 1/4 earlier): http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/491707
01:41:797 (4) - dangerously close to the hp-bar, if you can, move it down a bit these hp bar issues really don't matter at all imo >_> but okay
01:58:797 (1) - move ending point a tiny bit to avoid the overlap/touching ya



[Challenging]
I'll have to repost some of the points from before. It is no problem to not use suggestions but at least give me a proper reason or explanation what you want to achieve by keeping different flaws. I just want to understand the reasoning behind some of the choices

00:43:464 (5) - sliding over an emphasized downbeat feels extremely awkward when playing and will throw ppl off the beat, map 00:43:797 - properly if possible plays fine to me. i don't feel awkward at al. Really I don't. Imo two hitcircles doesn't flow well some reason, and a 1/2 tick slider and a hitcircle feels overmapped
00:54:797 (2,3) - curving those sliders a bit would help to improve readability and looks just better: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/455441 didn't curve them that much, just moved them a bit
01:52:296 (3,4) - ctrl+j and correct spacing to avoid the overlap looks worse imo.
01:57:797 (4) - again sliding over the emphasized downbeat. You could remove the repeat and map 01:58:463 - properly similar reasoning i guess. I just don't feel awkward at all playing this. Maybe we could ask a few people to test play it or something.



[Extra]
Map feels a bit like the "good old days".

01:24:797 (7) - maybe use reduced SV for this slider to match the slower pace of the song and the wiggles before
01:27:797 (6) - ^ i don't wiggles are necessary. guitar isn't really doing vibrato or anything either.
01:47:797 (1,2,3,4) - if possible avoid the overlap of the triplet with the slider here. It seems to break the styling of this part and looks out of place here. i would like to keep the overlap as it was just something that I liked to do back then, and it still looks decent to me now. However, I did move the overlap a bit so that the hitcircles weren't touching the end of the slider.




I'll get Dunskin and Loctav to evaluate Ono's Taiko ASAP. Please respond to which suggestions you dropped and (shortly) why to make it easier for me.

• 00:05:135 (1) - this note feels too much and irritating as the patterns before ended 1/2 earlier, thus, I recommend removing this note
  00:06:802 (1) - similar, I recommend removing this note as for leaving time for the player to prepare for the upcoming quadraclick-pattern (no idea what to call it), as it appears kinda sudden right now; also, this goes better with your previous patterning
  00:08:469 - would've expected a note here because of the guitars in the BGM
  00:14:464 - suggesting to lower the volume for the section after by about 25% as this part of the song appears to be kinda calm compared to the rest and this'll suit the atmosphere better and help the hitsounding to not overshine the actual instrumental
  00:25:130 and following: The doubles here feel awkward as they do not actually land on anything - if you could try to embed them more in the overall hitsounding and patterning, that'd work out better as it would feel more flowy but right now, the stopping and then hitting on where there is nothing feels a bit meeh
  00:25:713 (1,2) - especially this one, I suggest you remove or redesign it as the atmosphere there does not sound as if you should even add any objects for overmapping, for 00:27:797 and following, it'd be more understandable and feel better reasoned, I guess you get me
  00:31:047 (1,2) - similar
  00:33:130 (2,3,4,1) - may be me but I don't enjoy this finish-tripplet combination, it doesn't play too well to me
  00:37:130 (2,1,2,1) - I suggest swapping the tripplet so it goes single-tripplet instead of tripplet-single here, goes better along with the previous one
  00:40:464 (1) - a finish feels dull here as the guitar sound weakens and there is generally nothing to reasonably put it on here
  00:42:297 + 00:42:380 - I suggest adding notes here as a tripplet feels better here than on the white tick following, you'd have to delete 00:42:547 (2,1) then as these feel kinda off
  00:46:463 - the doubles in the following part feel horribly off to me, 'specially the 1/4-ones, please change them to something else as this really really feels odd to play and hits onto nothing without a reasonable feel in the song (also, might reduce volume here again? calm section, yano)
  01:01:797 (1) - I am a bit sceptical about this note; I don't like big notes at the end of 1/3s and the likes
  01:14:464 (1,2,3) - why the k k k here, it doesn't sound fitting to the song and takes the flowyness away (imo)
  01:19:130 (1,2,1) - that tripplet feels overdone and not too suiting to the rest as you don't use them any frequent in this part
  01:21:797 (1,2,1) - ^
  01:24:713 (2,1) - these doubles again, they don't belong here :<
  01:26:047 (2,1) - this one is okay though (guitar)
  01:45:130 and following: About the same as in first kiai, you should do stuff about the doubles and the likes; also, consider to work on the tripplet use, some might sound off to the player as the ones I previously mentioned did for me
  02:05:130 (1) - I feel like the endspin should have a volume that is at least a bit lower (15% or smth) as the guitar feels fading-out-ish and less like a hard impact, which the current volume supports

winber1 wrote:

HI JENNY

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huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue.............................

SPOILER

i luv that that patriotbj guy

Jenny wrote:

Taiko Check:

• 
  00:14:464 - suggesting to lower the volume for the section after by about 25% > Never do that in taiko. Volumen should be the same in the whole song.
  00:33:130 (2,3,4,1) - may be me but I don't enjoy this finish-tripplet combination... > Yeah, I agree. Changed too ddk d
  00:37:130 (2,1,2,1) - I suggest swapping... > Okay~
  00:40:464 (1) - a finish feels dull... agree
  00:46:463 - the doubles in the following part feel horribly... I was young and unknowing. Changed that part.
  01:14:464 (1,2,3) - why the k k k here...agree~
  01:19:130 (1,2,1) - that tripplet...changed

narakucrimson wrote:

Wasn't there a rule about two taiko difficulties minimum if you're adding taikos to your mapset?

Ah, here it is, from http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Ranking_Criteria :

Mapsets must have at least two osu! standard or Taiko difficulties, one of which must be an Easy/Normal level. It is possible for Marathon difficulties to have only 1 difficulty, but it must be named Marathon for the BSS to allow the submission to pending.

What do you want to do about this?

1. Hitsounds: The normal-hitfinish.wav and soft-hitfinish.wav are too long (2.70 sec), they shouldn't be this long. I actually made a change for you, this one is shorter than 1500ms which is more acceptable. Here: http://puu.sh/1CkJE. The echo is just a bit shorter. (don't forget to include this as a soft-hitfinish.wav too)
2. Timing: The first red section is 5ms too late, move it to offset 1131.
3. 00:19:807 - This green timing section is unsnapped (10ms too late) and it doesn't properly change the hitsounds. Move it to 00:19:797.

1. Stacking leniency: Currently it's unrankable because except for a few stacks it doesn't work at all. There are 2 ways of fixing this, either you move it to like 5-6 so stacking occurs normally (not recommended), or you manually make grid4 changes to create manual stacking. I will point out the spots as I go.
   
   SPOILER

   Ranking Criteria wrote:

   Stack leniency must not be set to a point where stacking no longer occurs. The option only exists for advanced patterns where a higher stacking leniency looks horrible or doesn't work.
   ^this means that patterns such as 00:03:052 (1,2,3,4,5) or similar overlaps are fine, the rest however is not.

2. 00:08:802 (12,13,14,1) - Here no stacking occurs at all. Manual stacking is a good idea here. Probably isn't 100% clear in the pic, but it could give you an insight of how to do this if you don't already know: http://puu.sh/1CkTP. Note: The whole stream is moved by doing this as well. This should be done at all spots in this entire streamy section.
3. 00:17:297 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Manually stack these please.
4. 00:34:797 (5,6,7) - This spacing looks bad. Can you somehow make it bigger overall and more consistent? This could mean the 7 could no longer be on top of the next slider, but I believe it would be a good move, it just feels cramped like this.
5. 00:43:797 (1,2,3,4,5) - I really see no reason to have this much inconsistency in the spacing. You could increase the spacing between 3-4-5 and reposition them a bit.
6. 00:57:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 0% timing sections are unrankable. Inaudible sliders ends are unrankable as well, unless they are last objects before the end or a break. You will have to change this so it's audible. Same goes for 00:59:797 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8).
7. 01:01:797 (4,5,6) - Manually stack these please.
8. 01:13:547 (2) - This note does not exist in the music and the rhythm it creates sounds bad, you should probably remove it and create some spacing between the note 1 and the slider.
9. 01:14:130 (5,6) - Nothing in the music to warrant this inconsistent spacing. The whole pattern uses pretty much equal spacing and then suddenly a randomjump. Should just use normal distance.
10. 01:42:463 (1,2,3,4) - Inconsistent spacing in patterns around here is okay, but this is just too extreme, nearly to the point of being unreadable. Please change this so the spacing is not that different, currently the difference is kinda above 300% which is too extreme.
11. 01:45:130 (1,2) - Manually stack please.
12. 01:51:130 (4,5) - I highly suggest that you don't stack this at all, you can just move the circle 5 upwards with the distance snap you used in this combo, it feels better as there is no stopping in the flow.
13. 02:00:797 (7,1) - Shouldn't the finish from 7 be on 1 instead? It's like that in challenging diff at least.
14. 02:04:963 (8) - Kinda feels far, should probably lower it a bit.

1. I recommend to use AR8 and OD6 for this diff. AR8 makes it look better and creates a better spread (since you have a hard diff already) and OD6 is most appropriate since Hard is OD5 and Extra is OD7. (I think OD7 would actually be best but you would probably have to use OD8 in Extra in that case.)
2. 01:21:797 (4) - This should be more clear, with the chaos happening around here and all the hitbursts it's nearly impossible to tell it's a slider at all.
3. 01:49:463 (7) - This one isn't as bad as the above case, but it's still kinda bad. You should definitely try to reposition it a bit.
4. 02:00:463 (8) - Missing clap on the slider end.

1. If you decided to go with OD7 in challenging diff here, try using OD6 here.
2. 00:45:464 (1) - Should probably start it at 00:45:297. (even normal has it there)
3. I don't really like the double repeaters in this diff. They are okay but they don't really feel intuitive enough to me, I would suggest to try thinking of an alternative, up to you though, this is only a minor suggestion.

1. 00:29:130 (2) - How about a clap on the second repeat? The first slider has one.
2. 01:28:797 (3) - I suggest to remove this note completely. Currently it doesn't really make much sense because you aren't following the drums here, but the guitar and is quite unexpected and in such a combination makes a really weird rhythm.
3. 01:55:797 (1,2,3) - This pattern is inappropriate for the easiest diff in the mapset, regardless of being it somewhat okay for a normal. Please change this so it has more even spacing, the spacing change here is too big and the music doesn't really call for it.
4. 02:01:130 (1,2,3) - Same thing here.

1. 00:07:219 (1) - This note creeps me out, this is the only pattern of 4 here and I feel it's quite unexpected. I suggest to remove it.
2. 00:35:130 (1) - Uh 180bpm 1/4 finish. Don't think this is even rankable haha. In any case I suggest that instead of removing it, you modify the stream before so this finish can stay cause it's epic.
3. 01:12:714 (1) - To me, if this was a k, it would sound much better because it's a somewhat more common drum pattern. I suggest changing it to a k.

lolcubes wrote:

Damn this map is old

lolcubes wrote:

Hi, answering a year+ old request! ;____;

Anyways:

[General]

1. Hitsounds: The normal-hitfinish.wav and soft-hitfinish.wav are too long (2.70 sec), they shouldn't be this long. I actually made a change for you, this one is shorter than 1500ms which is more acceptable. Here: http://puu.sh/1CkJE. The echo is just a bit shorter. (don't forget to include this as a soft-hitfinish.wav too)
2. Timing: The first red section is 5ms too late, move it to offset 1131.
3. 00:19:807 - This green timing section is unsnapped (10ms too late) and it doesn't properly change the hitsounds. Move it to 00:19:797.

fixed all

[Extra]

1. Stacking leniency: Currently it's unrankable because except for a few stacks it doesn't work at all. There are 2 ways of fixing this, either you move it to like 5-6 so stacking occurs normally (not recommended), or you manually make grid4 changes to create manual stacking. I will point out the spots as I go.
   
   SPOILER

   Ranking Criteria wrote:

   Stack leniency must not be set to a point where stacking no longer occurs. The option only exists for advanced patterns where a higher stacking leniency looks horrible or doesn't work.
   ^this means that patterns such as 00:03:052 (1,2,3,4,5) or similar overlaps are fine, the rest however is not.

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2. 00:08:802 (12,13,14,1) - Here no stacking occurs at all. Manual stacking is a good idea here. Probably isn't 100% clear in the pic, but it could give you an insight of how to do this if you don't already know: http://puu.sh/1CkTP. Note: The whole stream is moved by doing this as well. This should be done at all spots in this entire streamy section.
3. 00:17:297 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Manually stack these please.ya
4. 00:34:797 (5,6,7) - This spacing looks bad. Can you somehow make it bigger overall and more consistent? This could mean the 7 could no longer be on top of the next slider, but I believe it would be a good move, it just feels cramped like this.sure
5. 00:43:797 (1,2,3,4,5) - I really see no reason to have this much inconsistency in the spacing. You could increase the spacing between 3-4-5 and reposition them a bit. this is more the mapping style of the map that I would really like to keep.
6. 00:57:130 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 0% timing sections are unrankable. Inaudible sliders ends are unrankable as well, unless they are last objects before the end or a break. You will have to change this so it's audible. Same goes for 00:59:797 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8).this is so old that you could actually make 0% volume with the editor. wow. okay fixed
7. 01:01:797 (4,5,6) - Manually stack these please. k
8. 01:13:547 (2) - This note does not exist in the music and the rhythm it creates sounds bad, you should probably remove it and create some spacing between the note 1 and the slider. don't see a problem to be honest actually. I find that it flows well too
9. 01:14:130 (5,6) - Nothing in the music to warrant this inconsistent spacing. The whole pattern uses pretty much equal spacing and then suddenly a randomjump. Should just use normal distance.
10. 01:42:463 (1,2,3,4) - Inconsistent spacing in patterns around here is okay, but this is just too extreme, nearly to the point of being unreadable. Please change this so the spacing is not that different, currently the difference is kinda above 300% which is too extreme. same as other spacing thing. this is something i would really love to keep. I don't want to change this into some other style. I want to keep it as much as it was originally intended to be.
11. 01:45:130 (1,2) - Manually stack please.k
12. 01:51:130 (4,5) - I highly suggest that you don't stack this at all, you can just move the circle 5 upwards with the distance snap you used in this combo, it feels better as there is no stopping in the flow. i think it's fine.
13. 02:00:797 (7,1) - Shouldn't the finish from 7 be on 1 instead? It's like that in challenging diff at least. k
14. 02:04:963 (8) - Kinda feels far, should probably lower it a bit. feels far doesn't really convince me of anything. Plays fine tbh

[Challenging]

1. I recommend to use AR8 and OD6 for this diff. AR8 makes it look better and creates a better spread (since you have a hard diff already) and OD6 is most appropriate since Hard is OD5 and Extra is OD7. (I think OD7 would actually be best but you would probably have to use OD8 in Extra in that case.) ar7, od 7. I feel AR 7 just fits with what I originally wanted to do back then.
2. 01:21:797 (4) - This should be more clear, with the chaos happening around here and all the hitbursts it's nearly impossible to tell it's a slider at all. don't see much of a problem to be honest, in fact i feel that your suggestion below needs more repositioning than this
3. 01:49:463 (7) - This one isn't as bad as the above case, but it's still kinda bad. You should definitely try to reposition it a bit. okay
4. 02:00:463 (8) - Missing clap on the slider end.

[Hard]

1. If you decided to go with OD7 in challenging diff here, try using OD6 here.k
2. 00:45:464 (1) - Should probably start it at 00:45:297. (even normal has it there) k
3. I don't really like the double repeaters in this diff. They are okay but they don't really feel intuitive enough to me, I would suggest to try thinking of an alternative, up to you though, this is only a minor suggestion.meh

[Normal]

1. 00:29:130 (2) - How about a clap on the second repeat? The first slider has one.k
2. 01:28:797 (3) - I suggest to remove this note completely. Currently it doesn't really make much sense because you aren't following the drums here, but the guitar and is quite unexpected and in such a combination makes a really weird rhythm. k
3. 01:55:797 (1,2,3) - This pattern is inappropriate for the easiest diff in the mapset, regardless of being it somewhat okay for a normal. Please change this so it has more even spacing, the spacing change here is too big and the music doesn't really call for it beginners won't even realize it's 1.20x honestly. In fact, I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever. but whatever, fixed.
4. 02:01:130 (1,2,3) - Same thing here. k

[Ono's taiko]

1. 00:07:219 (1) - This note creeps me out, this is the only pattern of 4 here and I feel it's quite unexpected. I suggest to remove it.
2. 00:35:130 (1) - Uh 180bpm 1/4 finish. Don't think this is even rankable haha. In any case I suggest that instead of removing it, you modify the stream before so this finish can stay cause it's epic.
3. 01:12:714 (1) - To me, if this was a k, it would sound much better because it's a somewhat more common drum pattern. I suggest changing it to a k.

That's it I guess. Damn this map is old haha.

lolcubes wrote:

[Ono's taiko]

1. 00:07:219 (1) - This note creeps me out, this is the only pattern of 4 here and I feel it's quite unexpected. I suggest to remove it. It's totally fine, I want to keep it. It's a rise of notes.
2. 00:35:130 (1) - Uh 180bpm 1/4 finish. Don't think this is even rankable haha. In any case I suggest that instead of removing it, you modify the stream before so this finish can stay cause it's epic. This is rankable. Those notes can be used even on 200 BPM songs if when they fit.
3. 01:12:714 (1) - To me, if this was a k, it would sound much better because it's a somewhat more common drum pattern. I suggest changing it to a k.

It was intension because of tripplet section.

winber1 wrote:

00:43:797 (1,2,3,4,5) - I really see no reason to have this much inconsistency in the spacing. You could increase the spacing between 3-4-5 and reposition them a bit. this is more the mapping style of the map that I would really like to keep.

winber1 wrote:

01:14:130 (5,6) - Nothing in the music to warrant this inconsistent spacing. The whole pattern uses pretty much equal spacing and then suddenly a randomjump. Should just use normal distance.

winber1 wrote:

01:42:463 (1,2,3,4) - Inconsistent spacing in patterns around here is okay, but this is just too extreme, nearly to the point of being unreadable. Please change this so the spacing is not that different, currently the difference is kinda above 300% which is too extreme. same as other spacing thing. this is something i would really love to keep. I don't want to change this into some other style. I want to keep it as much as it was originally intended to be.

winber1 wrote:

The problem is that your only reason is basically that it's a spacing error thus it cannot be ranked and etc.