IceBeam wrote:

Okay,firstly why Preview Point isn't set in Cha-insane? Why countdown is disabled and why combo colours aren't set if you're using same BG anyway? And why it's the only difficulty that uses Kiai? I think all this stuff should be fixed.

[Cha-insane]
00:46:450 - Remove a clap please. No.....
Using Normal samepleset in Kiai was a good idea,but have to say jumps seemed random to me. Thanks and I do have a habit of adding random jumps.
But I like,good one.

Vass_Bass wrote:

the slider

Cha-insane
00:11:598 (1) - new combo
00:39:119 (8) - ^
00:40:662 (1) - remove new combo
00:41:177 (2) - new combo
01:39:821 (1,2,3,4) - don't use big spacing there i think

Vass_Bass wrote:

General
It will be better that in each diff will be same kiai It doesn't matter to me about the kiai uniformity, but I'm not putting kiai in my difficulties.

Normal
00:35:518 (3) - spacing (no jumps in normal) stuck it with the end of the slider oh damn.

Good diffs, but boring long music, may be you will be it shorten.. 2 minutes isn't long at all, though that's one reason I didn't map the end.

1. 01:11:528 - Add a note here?

1. 00:07:997 (5) - This jump is too big imo. Use ctrl+R to reverse it? I think it fit better like this.
2. 02:34:864 (3) - This note is under the hp bar, I think it's unrankable. How about this? http://puu.sh/16bF
3. 02:44:381 (1) - Spinner hitsound is muted so all those timing points aren't necessary.

1. The spacing is a bit weird, you have 1/2 streams with x1,2 spacing and 1/2 streams with x0,8 spacing so it doesn't looks like the same timing

Kurosanyan wrote:

[Normal]

1. 01:11:528 - Add a note here?

I originally omitted it because I felt it was too close to spinner for easy, but now that it's normal, I can add the note.

[Inane]

1. The spacing is a bit weird, you have 1/2 streams with x1,2 spacing and 1/2 streams with x0,8 spacing so it doesn't looks like the same timing

On purpose. The flowing section is jumpy, whereas the breaks are not.

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[Normal]
was Hard to follow, but not because it is hard, actually...
following this you'll make it follow more the drums ( the non did part is followable for me )

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00:07:225 (1) - Move To 00:06:968 (1) and change Hitsound to Hammer
00:08:511 (4) - Move To 00:08:768 (4) -
00:09:540 (x) - Add Hit
00:12:112 (x) - ^
00:12:369 (5,6) - Slider that start in (5) and end in (6)
00:13:912 (1) - End at 00:14:427 ( use Hammer at end too )
(If you've done ^) 00:14:684 (x) - Add Hit
00:15:199 (x) - Add Hit
00:15:713 (x) - ^
00:16:227 (x) - ^
00:17:256 (1) - End At 00:17:771 ( use Hammer at end too )
00:19:057 (x) - Add Hit
00:22:658 (4) - Move to 00:22:400 (4) -
00:22:915 (x) - Add Hit
00:24:715 (2) - Use a Hit and Delete the 1/1 Slider
00:25:230 (x) - Add Hit
00:26:001 (4) - Move To 00:25:744 (4)
00:27:287 (1) - End at 00:27:802 ( use Hammer at end too ) or 00:28:059
01:18:216 (2) - Use a Hit and Delete the 1/1 Slider
01:18:988 (3,4) - one tick earlier
01:20:787 (1) - 1/1 shorter ( means 2/1 in two repeat )
01:22:073 (x) - Add Hit
01:22:845 (2) - Move to 01:22:588 (2) -
01:23:360 (4,5) - Two 1/1 Slider starting from 01:23:102 (4)

Heh, you could have just said follow the bass drum more. Unfortunately, the way I feel the melody's beat in this song is 3+3+2+2+3 (=13), which is what I've mapped to for the majority or the melody sections. The bass drum however is 3+2+2+3+3, which makes things a little difficult. I went ahead and double checked the short sliders though, and replaced a few with 2 hits. My only concern is that this bumped the difficulty up 0.05 stars, and I'm already over the 3.0 mark. It seems to add to the difficulty for no good reason, and I like having the beginning fairly simple, whereas it get more hectic as the song progresses, so I don't think I'll use it.

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. 00:27:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - (nazi) Spacing. Move (2) by 2 grids down and 2 grids to the right, this also makes (2) in line with the slider end. Adjust the (3) by 2 grids to the right and 2 grids down. Do the same for (4) so they still make a nice triangle. Finally, move (5) by 4 grids down and 3 to the right to fix the further spacing issues.

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. Different sets of hitsounds. Not sure if this is intended. (normal claps instead of custom sounds)
3. 00:48:121 (4) - New combo?
4. 00:48:893 (7) - ^

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. Pointing out at the name of the difficulty. Not sure if it's intended. It does sound more cool though. :3
3. Not using any hitsounds. My bad, my client went crazy.
4. 00:46:578 (7) - (nazi) A lazy slider. Move the middle point by 3 grids down and 2 grids to the right to make it look more pretty. Optional though.

lolcubes wrote:

Hey, here's some stuff.

[Normal]:

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. 00:27:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - (nazi)

moved (2) so it's under the end of 1. Everything else looks fine the way it is.

aquabluu wrote:

Sorry for the long delay~

[Cha-insane]
01.55.451 (3) Nazi: Since 5,6,7 are in a straight line, why not make this straight too?

Very creative, masterful abuse of spacing, one of the best maps I've ever come across this month. Star!

ziin wrote:

Guest taiko by kanpyakin.

Garven wrote:

I've seen you modding all over the place recently, so I figured I'd throw one your way.

[Normal]
Eh, I'd just do more and more nazis, haha. I need mods to get me motivated to look for stuff. Fixed them all, and some more.
Good rhythm use, though I think the spacing is a little bit high for the easiest of the set. If you can manage to pull off an Easy, it would round out the spread really well. Never been good at easy, never choose the right songs for easy either. Normal was originally easy, but I agree, so I'll fudge up one. I made the ending quite tense.

[Insane]
01:30:818 - Awkward break placement. Also, it's best to keep break placement the same across all of your own difficulties. I don't know why I bothered with the break there. I'll fix, as I never liked the area I mapped in it.
Kind of saddened to see copy/paste in the works here, but oh well. Most of my rhythms aren't copy/pasted, but certainly they're the same throughout the song. The major reason was because I thought the 13/8 was so daunting I had to make the song easier to predict. Now I know it's not bad at all. I will move/add the notes around in the last section, as that's a straight copy/paste/flip.

The spread is a little on the top-heavy side. The recent additions to inane really shot the difficulty up.

-kevincela- wrote:

Ok,i've done my guest diff!
I don't know if the hitsounds are done very good,so tell me if there is something that isn't right! (unfortunately i'm not too good at hitsounds D:)

ziin wrote:

-kevincela- wrote:

Ok,i've done my guest diff!
I don't know if the hitsounds are done very good,so tell me if there is something that isn't right! (unfortunately i'm not too good at hitsounds D:)

sounds neat-o. I just copied hitsounds from the song because that's how I roll. I'm a tad bit worried about the 4.77 star rating, but we'll see what the mats/bats think.

A few things you could do to make it look better is make sure that all your sliders end with the end node in the center. It looks bad when you do symmetry with non symmetrical sliders:
57:124 - http://puu.sh/1gC4
sometimes using grid 1 is okay.
01:23:874 (1) - this doesn't seem to fit.
There's also a lot of places to nazi.

noneed wrote:

Cha-insane: (Capitalize the 'i' in insane?) Fixed
00:11:598 (1) - remove new combo Fixed
01:39:821 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - random jumps dont make insane map funnier, especially at such monotonous music... Fixed

noneed wrote:

Easy:
01:04:069 (1) - this slider is just ugly ._. I got free range on those, so I don't know what exactly to do with them.
02:07:600 (1,1,1) - why such weird sliders? I don't know, they just look really oldschool and fugly The linear slider changes direction with each hammer sound, which is why they look like that. I'd rather have them all over the place than in some organized fashion, though I'll experiment with it. And long curvy sliders are boring. I already put those in.

Nomal:
00:13:655 (7) - keep it aline with 6 since all the prev notes in this combo are also aline Should I put 2 in a line too then? Besides, 7 is in between 6 and 1.
00:43:234 (6) - this feels and plays odd since it's out of place stuck in a slider on both

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Nico Nico Douga - Koromo of the Sprite Tribe (Saten-san) [Chamle's Riichi].osu [10.05 KB]

kissfly wrote:

cha-insane:
Use distance and grid
00:07:997(5):the end of slider's distance is far from than (6) Eh, I dont think it really matters, I'll wait for someone else.
02:17:888(5)(6)(7):grid wat

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

Will complete the mod tomorrow...
Well, you did forgot an "s" in !"Inane"

Keilara wrote:

[Cha-insane]

00:47:093 - New combo? Check...
00:47:350 - Remove new combo Check...
01:27:475 - Note here? No...
01:27:732 - ^ Check...
00:47:350 - Remove new combo Lolol, repeated mod....

chamelepeace710 wrote:

you really should change the diff now....

Zelos wrote:

Normal:
01:27:475 (1,2) - try to make 2 wrap around 2 so the slider is not under the beginning of 1.

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[Easy]
-rather strange that i can't follow the thrythmn while playing-
00:11:340 (2) - Move to 00:11:083 (2) - , as the hammer sound is many times easier to follow and hear
02:07:342 (3) - uhm, this tiny circle can't be seen so easiliy ( try rotating 02:04:256 (1,2) - and/or stacking 02:07:342 (3) - on 02:07:600 (1) - start, it will be like this and this
More point's for the hammer-following slider :3

[Normal]
01:41:879 (x) - Add a 1/1 Slider here? (for following all Synths keys)

Tonoicutzu wrote:

[General]
don't map with grid 3 because the distance is inconsistent. Use grid 4. You must check the distance(especially in [Easy] and [Normal] )

Tonoicutzu wrote:

next time you map, try using perfect sliders

Raging Bull wrote:

Cha-Insane:
00:07:739 (4,5) - I rather not have a jump so early in the song. Just space this correctly?

136,224,35004,2,0,B|143:202|160:168|129:140|113:122,1,110,0|2

wmfchris wrote:

-> I see moddyRPG tagged "smrpg" and "supersoft" in his map of the same series of smrpg OST. Please tag them as well? Also applied this.

[Cha-insane]
00:16:227 (10,11) - stack properly Check
00:35:775 (8,9,10) - make a square, (8) right 1 grid, (9,10) right + down 1 grid Check
01:02:782 (5,6,7) - put them into a stright line Check
01:22:331 (6) - looks better for left 1 grid You mean only the first point? Check.
01:23:874 (4) - up 1 grid Check


ummmm... the hitsounds are pretty random except the finishes, but it sounds ok for me... and there's room for improvement for the placement of notes orz If you listen carefully to the song, the hitsounds match the other sounds of the normal song.

wmfchris wrote:

-> I see moddyRPG tagged "smrpg" and "supersoft" in his map of the same series of smrpg OST. Please tag them as well? Didn't see "smrpg" but okay. The more tags the better. Also, it's "squaresoft".

[Taiko]
-disable countdown. I think this was my fault, but there is no countdown on taiko, so it shouldn't matter.
[Inane]
00:13:269 (6) - looks better when right+down 1 grid did grid 1 stuff
01:48:309 (3) - using a curved slider would fits the other notes in the combo oops
01:50:366 (9) - down 1 grid okay
[Normal]
00:13:912 (1) - down 1 grid to make (6,7,1) into a stright line did some grid 1 stuff
00:23:172 (5) - right 1 grid for symmetrical purpose okay
ummmm... the hitsounds are pretty random except the finishes, but it sounds ok for me... and there's room for improvement for the placement of notes orz

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Now... FULL-SUBMIT MY FRICKIN DIFF DAMMIT!!

240,24,88246,2,0,B|312:56|328:-32|428:8|496:164|356:208|272:188,1,400,2|0

SPOILER

SPOILER

wmfchris wrote:

[Kev-Hard]
00:57:124 (1) - I suggest you to right 1 lv4 grid so that (8,9,1) are symmetrical along a vertical axis. Done
01:23:874 (1,2) - interchange, i.e., single note on (1) and 1/4 slider on 1 beat later? No,sounds fine to me
01:25:160 (4) - adjust the position a bit so that it ends at x:232 instead of x:226 to fit with (2) No
02:05:799 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - uneven spacing Fixed a bit
-> some 1/4 sliders maye too loud.

Garven wrote:

[Kev-Hard]
Raise stack leniency. 7 worked quite well. Done
00:14:427 (2) - Check the alignment compared to the rest of the pattern. Done
00:59:439 (2) - These don't sound very good when comparing to the clean sounds of the percussion from the song itself. Well,I think it's better to leave it as it is now
02:20:460 (4) - Remove whistle from slider body. Done
Overall, kind of a dull difficulty. It's rhythmically stagnant until you reach the bridge, where there's finally something different enough to take the mind away from 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 zzz (the spacing also lent to this, but it's harder to pull off good jumps in a Hard) Yes,i know,the real problem is that the map is quite repetitive and it isn't very easy to map an Hard here,and this guest diff I made was very old,so I'm better at mapping now

Garven wrote:

[Easy]
tbh, this really felt more of an easier Normal difficulty due to the rhythms used, though it's still put together really well. It'll do for the easiest, imo. Silly thing is, it's easier when you just map every white tick.

[Normal]
01:28:246 (2) - Try this: I edited that one a little more

Garven wrote:

[Cha-Insane]
00:23:944 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why suddenly new combo happy?
01:47:537 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't flow very well. It felt better reversing 5 and 6. Maybe set up a jump from the 6 to where 8 is and head downward with 9 under the current pattern, and control + r the... screw this. Have a screenshot.

SPOILER

02:20:975 (1) - Add whistle

ziin wrote:

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Now... FULL-SUBMIT MY FRICKIN DIFF DAMMIT!!

Alright, looks like I failed to rename it with a capital "I". Should be fixed now. I've been updating the beatmap whenever you post something, then I post after you, it's just I changed a bunch of meta tags, and you never update your map to get them, so I miss some things (not hitobjects though, since I just copy/paste).

theMikeAG wrote:

~Kev-Hard~
00:15:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Fix the hexagon! Adjust accordingly.

SPOILER

ATTACH[screenshot089.jpg]

No
00:29:345 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Center this.Done

ziin wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts. I realized when making this map it wasn't going to be great or virtually anyone's favorite, but perhaps you could let me know a few things on why it looks like an old mapset so I can change it a little or a lot? I know it's a hard thing to express in written form.

Astom wrote:

Ok as you wish, I'm going to do some suppositions, let's say you started and realized than your map is not going to be so "great" and your supposition turned true, and now you think "oh well is mapped already"

Astom wrote:

so you are gonna regret not remapping this when you are already aware of your maps problems.

Astom wrote:

in your insane I can't appreciate any logic, what is this 00:42:334 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) ? or this 01:38:021 (2,3,4,5,6,7) is that a flower? or why you placed circles like this 02:16:345 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7), because you wanted force that set of circles in your map?
Finally, if you want something symetrical, use grid level 4, also check symetry ussing ctrl+h and ctrl+j, for example here 02:15:316 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) move it to axis Y and press ctrl+h you are gonna notice than (13) isn't alligned with (7) and that obviously isn't made on purpose.

Astom wrote:

[General]
-BG is kinda dark and the combo colour
fixed. I was noticing that too. Brought up the luminosity of blue and green to 85 to match the red.
-BPM 233,230 , be careful at resnap, specially 1/3 circles.
I've wondered if I got the right BPM for a while now, but http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/124154 I'm 12 ms late at 230, and it sounds way early to me. The 1/3 and 1/2 streams at the end I think you might tend to rush a little bit (I know I do). I'm just 5 ms or so early with under 15% mistimed right now, so I think it's fine. I'm an idiot. Sounds better.

[Inane]
Looks better and playable, congratz ^^, the only thing than wonder me is that strange combination of symmetric and nonsymmetric set of circles but nothing wrong with it, just looks a little strange (just saying, don't need to change anything).
In the future I'm going to try to do more symmetry, but 1) this song isn't symmetrical and 2) I'm trying to avoid copy/paste. Beat placement has never bothered me, it's the rhythms that I care about. Perhaps this is my style, though I'm trying to change it.
-00:12:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - personally I don't like this, because is hard of catch at playing,
It's actually easier than the later 1.2x section because you don't actually have to move your mouse to 300 the slider: http://puu.sh/3Wzg from that point it's about 1.0x to the next slider. As it is right now, I have no problem 300ing this every time.

Garven wrote:

[General]
Check the first BPM for Cha-Insane and kev-Hard compared to your own difficulties.

[Cha-Insane]
00:06:711 (1,2) - 1/3 please
00:46:450 (10) - Kind of plays awkwardly as a slider imo
00:59:439 (9,10) - 1/3 blah blah
01:01:754 (2,5,6) - ^
01:06:126 (7,8) - ^
01:08:441 (2,6,7) - ^
01:35:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This rhythm was kind of refreshing - a pity you only did it the one time.
02:09:657 (9) - 1/3 yawn
02:11:972 (9) - ^
02:13:001 (4,5) - ^
02:16:602 (10) - Whistle on sliderslide
02:20:975 (1) - Aligned strangely

ziin wrote:

Kevin and Chamele, while I was fixing your BPMs, I noticed that the 1/3 sections are still in 1/4 on your diffs. I'd really like it if you changed them, since 1/4 doesn't fit at all, but for some god forsaken reason too many people on osu are deathly afraid of triplets. If you truly feel that you want to map it incorrectly, I won't make you.

Garven wrote:

[Cha-Insane]
02:16:626 (10) - You still want that whistle on the sliderslide then? You said all fixed so...

Insane:
01:48:071 (3) - Feels better if this isn't stacked at the beginning of the stream.
Cha-Insane:
Slider tick-rate 2 sounds a bit nicer, just my opinion.

Ijah wrote:

Cha-Insane:
Slider tick-rate 2 sounds a bit nicer, just my opinion.

ziin wrote:

@chamele,
I made a few changes to the diff which you've already made an effort to fix.

I removed some 1/3 which are not 1/3:
01:01:765 (2) -
02:11:996 (9) -
02:12:253 (10) - deleted this one because of (9)
01:51:801 (3) - this one is 1/6

Double check and give your okay on it and we're all set. Otherwise I can reupload with your previous diff.

Did you decide not to do remove the sliderslide? I'm sorta confused on the "alas it's too quiet".

1. Recently there was this new thing about if using less than 80% of the mp3, the mp3 should be cut down if possible. This can be easily applied to your ending if you start fading out somewhere just as your map finishes and then you just shorten it. If you need help with this, just ask.
2. I am still unsure of the exact dimensions of the skin, but the only thing I know is that you shouldn't have elements larger than the ones from the template skin. default-7.png is slightly bigger, but I would say in this case that they should be fine up to 54x54, but just to be sure check with someone who knows for sure, like a BAT or something. Same goes with default-percent.png and score-*.png set (score has a height of 65 where template skin has 60).
   I guess common judgement should be applied here and these don't really make a huge difference but I have seen cases where slightly bigger spinner circles were deemed unrankable, so. :/ I guess that depends on the person ranking.
   edit: I asked around about this, and I was told that it would be great that you could resize them if possible, if not, such a minor difference wouldn't be something too much of an error.
3. Remove the countdown from all diffs? It kinda sounds wrong to me.

1. 00:29:350 (1) - I wonder why did you use a new combo here? It's not really necessary.
2. 00:47:358 - Consider adding a note here. I think this would feel better because it would give off a more heavy feel. It's just like not mapping the last note in the music as it is now imo.
3. 00:59:449 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This had me the first time I was playing. Unless you know the stuff, you won't tell they're 1/6 (unless you are a god among the distance snap sightreaders lol). Maybe map a repeater for the first time? It shouldn't be hard to guess after this spot as the music is the same.
4. 01:11:026 - As this is the highest diff, I think you could get away by following the melody from this point. Same goes for 01:11:283.
5. 01:50:901 - Same as 00:47:358 in this mod.
6. 01:57:589 - onward - I didn't really like this part because there were too few sliders. I guess the way you mapped it works fine, but I don't like circle heavy maps in general, they feel boring and I don't think they fit this kind of music (I think they only fit untz untz type of music where there are no dynamic parts)
7. I am curious why didn't you map that fast rattling sound with a short 1/8 repeater at any point in the map. I think it could add some variety. Would be nice to try that after the first break, atleast for the last few sections before the next break.

1. 00:39:126 (1) - Don't think you really need this new combo. You are still following the same musical line (apart from the slider, but I guess even the slider does, kinda) and there is no complications position-wise here. You should probably relocate this new combo to 00:40:670 (5) and then remove the new combo from 00:41:184 (1).

1. 00:32:437 (3) - Won't be naziing much, but this slider really struck me. Look how ugly it looks. Just by moving it 2 grids right it makes it look exponentially better. The following slider could be repositioned a little so it still forms a triangle with the note after and this slider.

1. 00:47:358 - Same deal like in Inane. Maybe make a circle and stack it under the previous one, or make a short slider out of those 2?
2. 01:50:901 - Yeah same thing.

1. OH, look at those bookmarks.
2. 00:47:358 - Same thing.
3. 01:50:901 - ^

lolcubes wrote:

\:D ziin.
Time to take a look at this again, last time was pretty a long time ago and wasn't as good plus stuff changed alot.

[General]:

1. Recently there was this new thing about if using less than 80% of the mp3, the mp3 should be cut down if possible. This can be easily applied to your ending if you start fading out somewhere just as your map finishes and then you just shorten it. If you need help with this, just ask. I didn't map the end because it's repetitive and starts fading out in that section. I like having the music still playing on the results screen, and I'm using like 79% of the mp3. I don't particularly want to do this, and all it does is remove some kB from the map.
2. I am still unsure of the exact dimensions of the skin, but the only thing I know is that you shouldn't have elements larger than the ones from the template skin. default-7.png is slightly bigger, but I would say in this case that they should be fine up to 54x54, but just to be sure check with someone who knows for sure, like a BAT or something. Same goes with default-percent.png and score-*.png set (score has a height of 65 where template skin has 60). Important parts are the combobursts and hitbursts. However upon trying to get this to work perfectly I noticed it you can't skin the hitnumbers properly if you don't skin the health bar, so these are deleted.
3. Remove the countdown from all diffs? It kinda sounds wrong to me. It is wrong, but I like it because the time signature is confusing.

[Inane]:

1. 00:29:350 (1) - I wonder why did you use a new combo here? It's not really necessary. copy/paste error
2. 00:47:358 - Consider adding a note here. I think this would feel better because it would give off a more heavy feel. It's just like not mapping the last note in the music as it is now imo. fine fine
3. 00:59:449 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This had me the first time I was playing. Unless you know the stuff, you won't tell they're 1/6 (unless you are a god among the distance snap sightreaders lol). Maybe map a repeater for the first time? It shouldn't be hard to guess after this spot as the music is the same. That's why they are all zigzagged. First note of the song is on a slider too, so you should know that 1/6 are coming up.
4. 01:11:026 - As this is the highest diff, I think you could get away by following the melody from this point. Same goes for 01:11:283. Not a fan of the note-after-spinner stuff.
5. 01:50:901 - Same as 00:47:358 in this mod. fine fine
6. 01:57:589 - onward - I didn't really like this part because there were too few sliders. I guess the way you mapped it works fine, but I don't like circle heavy maps in general, they feel boring and I don't think they fit this kind of music (I think they only fit untz untz type of music where there are no dynamic parts) Can you feel the tension rising? Every note is important!
7. I am curious why didn't you map that fast rattling sound with a short 1/8 repeater at any point in the map. I think it could add some variety. Would be nice to try that after the first break, atleast for the last few sections before the next break. because I don't like mapping noise, especially not 350 BPM 1/4th noise. Fast repeating sliders don't do well. because they lose the end of their hit window.

I probably wouldn't agree with some notes in Cha-Insane but it felt alright so I didn't want to point fingers much, I bet any possible overmapping would have been pointed out by you already hehe.There's so much going on in the song that it's really hard to overmap. I tried to follow particular parts and ignored others, but cha and kev didn't always.

1. Why [Cha-Insane] diff. use StackLeniency: 0.6 while others are 0.7, if you have particular reason to do this, please post out. Or why not use same SL?

1. 00:57:391 (1) - So many custom slidertick sound lol, yea it's nice but I always feeling strange, when I'm a new player, I was ever scared by custom slidertick sound lol

1. 01:30:835 (1) - 2 grid left, or you put it pn purpose?
2. 02:11:224 (1) - Add clap?

1. 40% volume part seems a little quiet, 50% better?

Breeze wrote:

[General]

1. Why [Cha-Insane] diff. use StackLeniency: 0.6 while others are 0.7, if you have particular reason to do this, please post out. Or why not use same SL?

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Well, stack leniency is something I never learned myself, so I didn't change it or anything.... Should I change it anyway? If so, I'll put in in the next post with lolcube's mod. If not, just lolcube's mod then....

ziin wrote:

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Well, stack leniency is something I never learned myself, so I didn't change it or anything.... Should I change it anyway? If so, I'll put in in the next post with lolcube's mod. If not, just lolcube's mod then....

because it doesn't matter. SL .6 means that > 2/1 apart will not move. If you don't care, you may as well change it (Though I don't see why you changed it in the first place, since 7 is default).

Sakura Hana wrote:

[Cha-Insane]
00:14:429 (3,4) - Odd place for a jump. It really starts the song.. But oh well, Changed
00:20:346 (13) - Looks better if you position it like this: http://puu.sh/4UCs Fixed
00:24:462 (3,4) - Yeah these kind of jumps are really misleading unless you're focusing on approach circles. Is this better?
00:29:093 (8,9,10) - Spacing kinda looks awkward even with your usual jumps Fixed
00:50:960 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - This back and forth is really annoying and confusing to play =/ i suggest you just use double stacks instead. Right, I forgot why I even did something awful like that
01:50:129 (11,12) - Once again this feels odd for a jump. Fixed the whole part, someone check again to see if its too crammed.
01:51:801 (3) - This slider looks like it came outta nowhere, even if it's following something... you barely hear it anywhere at all in the song. (Yeah i know it's following some trrrrr sound in the background, but would make more sense if you mapped each instance of that, otherwise it just feels awkward to have something like this) I'm not sure what would fix it, so I put two circles there.
02:21:000 (1) - Add hitsound finish? Hmm, unsure.. It doesn't fit, but it's better than the whistle.... Nah, I'll leave it.

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Right, I forgot why I even did something awful like that

ziin wrote:

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Right, I forgot why I even did something awful like that

probably because I did it (but to a much lesser extent) in inane.

ziin wrote:

I'll update tomorrowlater today. As far as I know inane has all of the hitsounds 100% accurate to the music, so you can use AIBat to copy the hitsounds into bookmarks so you can compare if you want to. Or I can double check it.

ziin wrote:

Another tip: if you go into the design tab, scroll to the end, then press play and go into the outro, then go back to compose tab and press z, the song won't play, but the hitsounds will, which will let you hear the hitsounds better, and if you have the boomarks in, you can compare.

p3n wrote:

[Cha-Insane]
Similar problem with unpredictable kicksliders as in hard but this beeing an insane labeled diff I guess it is completely up to the mapper.
Haha, guess not....

00:59:449 (9,10,11) - this (repeatedly used) pattern plays and sounds a bit weird; maybe delete (11) and move (10) forward to end where (11) used to be? This would be the kind of pattern you used later @02:02:220 (2,3,4,5,6,7) with circles/triplets. Hmmm, pretty unnecessary... but if someone else complains about it, I'll think.