Charles445 wrote:

cha-insane
You should stick to the custom hitsounds.
00:29:602 This really doesn't need a new combo
00:46:450 Seems a bit odd, nothing totally wrong with it though
00:57:381 to 01:10:756 GENIUS!
02:07:085 Kills the flow of the previous slider
02:47:660 I'd add an inheriting section that changes the hit to soft to prevent sound popping
Very nice insane; it's well paced and fun.

Charles445 wrote:

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Easy
This whole thing is pretty pointy/squarey. This is understandable considering the limitations of easies, but it could be better.
Try making longer sliders that curve about. No need to have many insta-sliders on an easy. I'll switch to the curvy ones in the beginning.
01:24:903 That 1 and 2 is tough to read fixed
01:28:246 The fuck... I think i like it yay for slider art
01:33:905 Not sure about the way the 6 clutches the 1. It seems odd, especially since they are different colors Spacing is perfect, and I need a new combo there for beat 1.
Man, stuff gets really hard... you might want to call this Normal that's just the music getting to you.
02:04:256 I don't like how it's touching the 5
02:05:799 I don't like the 3 touching the 2, and the flow is bad Did some nudging, nothing is overlapping now.
Bleh

Inane
I'll assume "Inane" is intentional.
Holy small circles batman. You might get rating trolled for that. I wanted to keep the difficulty up, but this is an easy fix if more people require that. I didn't know there were only 2 permitable sizes.
01:57:568 to <the end> This section is particularly pointy and square-y, maybe make it more curvy like the earlier portions? I like the contrast of flowing and moving fast during the melody, with the structured rhythm of the drum. Thus curvy-straight.
Pretty good, those 7 streams mess me up though (all this 13/8 man) I think it's easy after you hear it once. I don't think anyone can correctly guess the patterns in this due to the obscure time signature though without hearing it once first.

hnnngggg star

RL Link wrote:

Hm... I guess I was the only one that preferred the map when it had normal hit circle size. Still fun, though.

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

Eh what the hell? I know the song, but I never thought anyone would map this. anything is possible if you believe!

very nice mod, almost everything will be done

Inane
00:16:227 - (5) add clap you are my hero

00:19:314 (5) - remove 1 repeat, add notes at 00:19:700 and 00:19:828 and add claps to both- seriously ^

00:21:500 - here should be a circle with a clap. eh.
You can fix those by increasing the slidertick rate to 2 add put hitsounds on the sliderticks. or remove/shorten the sliders and add the circles. or you can leave it as it is... I was contemplating this after I did it for easy. We'll see how it plays out.

00:09:025 - remove clap I mapped the whole song like this, or at least I tried to. I can't actually hear the loud snare hit here (there's a soft one), but it's in the midi I got, so I'm leaving it I'm fixing it. The pattern is: 3,4.5,7,8,9,10,13,2,3,4.5,7,8,9,10.5,11,13. So far I haven't mapped the .5s yet, but I'm about to after your mod.

hitsounds from 00:57:381 on are nice~
01:14:100 (1) - add new combo
the problems start from on 01:20:787 on again. do something with what I gave you above... thanks for not pointing them out individually. I know exactly what I'm looking for, and it's annoying to look back and forth

Easy
It's hard to map an Easy diff for a song like this D: I can't help you really well here. Very hard. I think I'll leave slider tick at 1 here though and ignore the offbeat claps.
It would be great if you'd put notes where those... hammers sound. In the beginning. I thought I put in hitsounds on this... Okay well I'm going to put a note on 13 wherever there's a hammer now. I'm leaving the difficulty as easy for now.

I might check this later again. You shoulda ask a real pro about hitsounds, like NatsumeRin. He might be more of a help than I am. Since I'm mapping directly related to what's in the background, based on repeated rhythms, it's not exactly difficult, just needs some double-checking. However, I don't like my current finish sound, and I haven't figured out where to map the finishes. Right now they're on certain key points and the beginning of every measure.

00:41:434 - add note
00:43:106, 00:43:234 - add note + clap
00:44:778 - ^ add note
00:46:450, 00:46:578 - - add note + clap I got rid of these notes because the rhythm was absurdly difficult, and I really like the repeating slider there. I may get rid of the slider and map this, we'll wait and see what others think.

ziin wrote:

RL Link wrote:

Hm... I guess I was the only one that preferred the map when it had normal hit circle size. Still fun, though.

I added jumps, and found them to be way too difficult. Plus with cha-insane using size 4, it's a bit backwards to have the "hard" map be smaller in size.

Not to mention, I think inane is harder than cha-insane when using size 5, but the max score is like 2.5 million less.

If you think otherwise feel free to voice your opinion on the matter, I do like size 5 since it makes the streams a lot harder.

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

Great that my mod helped you, but you forgot my Kudosu D:

I'm so needy

IceBeam wrote:

thanks

Okay,firstly why Preview Point isn't set in Cha-insane? Why countdown is disabled and why combo colours aren't set if you're using same BG anyway? And why it's the only difficulty that uses Kiai? I think all this stuff should be fixed.I think he used my old easy as a template. As for kiai, the song doesn't need it, so I didn't put it in my difficulties.

I want to see middle-difficulty I was hoping for a guest, but I may cook one up.

[Easy]
00:13:655 (7) - This overlap looks bad,really,could you move it few grids to the right? only if I approach it from a different angle
00:16:999 (5) - Stack with (2).okay
01:27:218 (6,1,2) - Ahh come on D: Please do something better. I'm proud of my slider art, so 1 and 2 are staying. Made it stack though so they don't overlap, as that's the only way I can get something there.

Rhytm is good,but sometimes it might be hard for beginners.Easy didn't go through nearly the same treatment as inane did, but I honestly don't know how to map an easy 13/8, so I went ahead and changed it to normal.

[Inane]
No,really,Inane? For serious
00:13:912 (1) - Too close,fix distance. How did that happen?

IceBeam wrote:

Okay,firstly why Preview Point isn't set in Cha-insane? Why countdown is disabled and why combo colours aren't set if you're using same BG anyway? And why it's the only difficulty that uses Kiai? I think all this stuff should be fixed.

[Cha-insane]
00:46:450 - Remove a clap please. No.....
Using Normal samepleset in Kiai was a good idea,but have to say jumps seemed random to me. Thanks and I do have a habit of adding random jumps.
But I like,good one.

Vass_Bass wrote:

the slider

Cha-insane
00:11:598 (1) - new combo
00:39:119 (8) - ^
00:40:662 (1) - remove new combo
00:41:177 (2) - new combo
01:39:821 (1,2,3,4) - don't use big spacing there i think

Vass_Bass wrote:

General
It will be better that in each diff will be same kiai It doesn't matter to me about the kiai uniformity, but I'm not putting kiai in my difficulties.

Normal
00:35:518 (3) - spacing (no jumps in normal) stuck it with the end of the slider oh damn.

Good diffs, but boring long music, may be you will be it shorten.. 2 minutes isn't long at all, though that's one reason I didn't map the end.

1. 01:11:528 - Add a note here?

1. 00:07:997 (5) - This jump is too big imo. Use ctrl+R to reverse it? I think it fit better like this.
2. 02:34:864 (3) - This note is under the hp bar, I think it's unrankable. How about this? http://puu.sh/16bF
3. 02:44:381 (1) - Spinner hitsound is muted so all those timing points aren't necessary.

1. The spacing is a bit weird, you have 1/2 streams with x1,2 spacing and 1/2 streams with x0,8 spacing so it doesn't looks like the same timing

Kurosanyan wrote:

[Normal]

1. 01:11:528 - Add a note here?

I originally omitted it because I felt it was too close to spinner for easy, but now that it's normal, I can add the note.

[Inane]

1. The spacing is a bit weird, you have 1/2 streams with x1,2 spacing and 1/2 streams with x0,8 spacing so it doesn't looks like the same timing

On purpose. The flowing section is jumpy, whereas the breaks are not.

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[Normal]
was Hard to follow, but not because it is hard, actually...
following this you'll make it follow more the drums ( the non did part is followable for me )

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00:07:225 (1) - Move To 00:06:968 (1) and change Hitsound to Hammer
00:08:511 (4) - Move To 00:08:768 (4) -
00:09:540 (x) - Add Hit
00:12:112 (x) - ^
00:12:369 (5,6) - Slider that start in (5) and end in (6)
00:13:912 (1) - End at 00:14:427 ( use Hammer at end too )
(If you've done ^) 00:14:684 (x) - Add Hit
00:15:199 (x) - Add Hit
00:15:713 (x) - ^
00:16:227 (x) - ^
00:17:256 (1) - End At 00:17:771 ( use Hammer at end too )
00:19:057 (x) - Add Hit
00:22:658 (4) - Move to 00:22:400 (4) -
00:22:915 (x) - Add Hit
00:24:715 (2) - Use a Hit and Delete the 1/1 Slider
00:25:230 (x) - Add Hit
00:26:001 (4) - Move To 00:25:744 (4)
00:27:287 (1) - End at 00:27:802 ( use Hammer at end too ) or 00:28:059
01:18:216 (2) - Use a Hit and Delete the 1/1 Slider
01:18:988 (3,4) - one tick earlier
01:20:787 (1) - 1/1 shorter ( means 2/1 in two repeat )
01:22:073 (x) - Add Hit
01:22:845 (2) - Move to 01:22:588 (2) -
01:23:360 (4,5) - Two 1/1 Slider starting from 01:23:102 (4)

Heh, you could have just said follow the bass drum more. Unfortunately, the way I feel the melody's beat in this song is 3+3+2+2+3 (=13), which is what I've mapped to for the majority or the melody sections. The bass drum however is 3+2+2+3+3, which makes things a little difficult. I went ahead and double checked the short sliders though, and replaced a few with 2 hits. My only concern is that this bumped the difficulty up 0.05 stars, and I'm already over the 3.0 mark. It seems to add to the difficulty for no good reason, and I like having the beginning fairly simple, whereas it get more hectic as the song progresses, so I don't think I'll use it.

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. 00:27:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - (nazi) Spacing. Move (2) by 2 grids down and 2 grids to the right, this also makes (2) in line with the slider end. Adjust the (3) by 2 grids to the right and 2 grids down. Do the same for (4) so they still make a nice triangle. Finally, move (5) by 4 grids down and 3 to the right to fix the further spacing issues.

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. Different sets of hitsounds. Not sure if this is intended. (normal claps instead of custom sounds)
3. 00:48:121 (4) - New combo?
4. 00:48:893 (7) - ^

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. Pointing out at the name of the difficulty. Not sure if it's intended. It does sound more cool though. :3
3. Not using any hitsounds. My bad, my client went crazy.
4. 00:46:578 (7) - (nazi) A lazy slider. Move the middle point by 3 grids down and 2 grids to the right to make it look more pretty. Optional though.

lolcubes wrote:

Hey, here's some stuff.

[Normal]:

1. Preview time is 0. Not sure if this is intended though.
2. 00:27:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - (nazi)

moved (2) so it's under the end of 1. Everything else looks fine the way it is.

aquabluu wrote:

Sorry for the long delay~

[Cha-insane]
01.55.451 (3) Nazi: Since 5,6,7 are in a straight line, why not make this straight too?

Very creative, masterful abuse of spacing, one of the best maps I've ever come across this month. Star!

ziin wrote:

Guest taiko by kanpyakin.

Garven wrote:

I've seen you modding all over the place recently, so I figured I'd throw one your way.

[Normal]
Eh, I'd just do more and more nazis, haha. I need mods to get me motivated to look for stuff. Fixed them all, and some more.
Good rhythm use, though I think the spacing is a little bit high for the easiest of the set. If you can manage to pull off an Easy, it would round out the spread really well. Never been good at easy, never choose the right songs for easy either. Normal was originally easy, but I agree, so I'll fudge up one. I made the ending quite tense.

[Insane]
01:30:818 - Awkward break placement. Also, it's best to keep break placement the same across all of your own difficulties. I don't know why I bothered with the break there. I'll fix, as I never liked the area I mapped in it.
Kind of saddened to see copy/paste in the works here, but oh well. Most of my rhythms aren't copy/pasted, but certainly they're the same throughout the song. The major reason was because I thought the 13/8 was so daunting I had to make the song easier to predict. Now I know it's not bad at all. I will move/add the notes around in the last section, as that's a straight copy/paste/flip.

The spread is a little on the top-heavy side. The recent additions to inane really shot the difficulty up.

-kevincela- wrote:

Ok,i've done my guest diff!
I don't know if the hitsounds are done very good,so tell me if there is something that isn't right! (unfortunately i'm not too good at hitsounds D:)

ziin wrote:

-kevincela- wrote:

Ok,i've done my guest diff!
I don't know if the hitsounds are done very good,so tell me if there is something that isn't right! (unfortunately i'm not too good at hitsounds D:)

sounds neat-o. I just copied hitsounds from the song because that's how I roll. I'm a tad bit worried about the 4.77 star rating, but we'll see what the mats/bats think.

A few things you could do to make it look better is make sure that all your sliders end with the end node in the center. It looks bad when you do symmetry with non symmetrical sliders:
57:124 - http://puu.sh/1gC4
sometimes using grid 1 is okay.
01:23:874 (1) - this doesn't seem to fit.
There's also a lot of places to nazi.

noneed wrote:

Cha-insane: (Capitalize the 'i' in insane?) Fixed
00:11:598 (1) - remove new combo Fixed
01:39:821 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - random jumps dont make insane map funnier, especially at such monotonous music... Fixed

noneed wrote:

Easy:
01:04:069 (1) - this slider is just ugly ._. I got free range on those, so I don't know what exactly to do with them.
02:07:600 (1,1,1) - why such weird sliders? I don't know, they just look really oldschool and fugly The linear slider changes direction with each hammer sound, which is why they look like that. I'd rather have them all over the place than in some organized fashion, though I'll experiment with it. And long curvy sliders are boring. I already put those in.

Nomal:
00:13:655 (7) - keep it aline with 6 since all the prev notes in this combo are also aline Should I put 2 in a line too then? Besides, 7 is in between 6 and 1.
00:43:234 (6) - this feels and plays odd since it's out of place stuck in a slider on both

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Nico Nico Douga - Koromo of the Sprite Tribe (Saten-san) [Chamle's Riichi].osu [10.05 KB]

kissfly wrote:

cha-insane:
Use distance and grid
00:07:997(5):the end of slider's distance is far from than (6) Eh, I dont think it really matters, I'll wait for someone else.
02:17:888(5)(6)(7):grid wat

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

Will complete the mod tomorrow...
Well, you did forgot an "s" in !"Inane"

Keilara wrote:

[Cha-insane]

00:47:093 - New combo? Check...
00:47:350 - Remove new combo Check...
01:27:475 - Note here? No...
01:27:732 - ^ Check...
00:47:350 - Remove new combo Lolol, repeated mod....

chamelepeace710 wrote:

you really should change the diff now....

Zelos wrote:

Normal:
01:27:475 (1,2) - try to make 2 wrap around 2 so the slider is not under the beginning of 1.

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[Easy]
-rather strange that i can't follow the thrythmn while playing-
00:11:340 (2) - Move to 00:11:083 (2) - , as the hammer sound is many times easier to follow and hear
02:07:342 (3) - uhm, this tiny circle can't be seen so easiliy ( try rotating 02:04:256 (1,2) - and/or stacking 02:07:342 (3) - on 02:07:600 (1) - start, it will be like this and this
More point's for the hammer-following slider :3

[Normal]
01:41:879 (x) - Add a 1/1 Slider here? (for following all Synths keys)

Tonoicutzu wrote:

[General]
don't map with grid 3 because the distance is inconsistent. Use grid 4. You must check the distance(especially in [Easy] and [Normal] )

Tonoicutzu wrote:

next time you map, try using perfect sliders

Raging Bull wrote:

Cha-Insane:
00:07:739 (4,5) - I rather not have a jump so early in the song. Just space this correctly?

136,224,35004,2,0,B|143:202|160:168|129:140|113:122,1,110,0|2

wmfchris wrote:

-> I see moddyRPG tagged "smrpg" and "supersoft" in his map of the same series of smrpg OST. Please tag them as well? Also applied this.

[Cha-insane]
00:16:227 (10,11) - stack properly Check
00:35:775 (8,9,10) - make a square, (8) right 1 grid, (9,10) right + down 1 grid Check
01:02:782 (5,6,7) - put them into a stright line Check
01:22:331 (6) - looks better for left 1 grid You mean only the first point? Check.
01:23:874 (4) - up 1 grid Check


ummmm... the hitsounds are pretty random except the finishes, but it sounds ok for me... and there's room for improvement for the placement of notes orz If you listen carefully to the song, the hitsounds match the other sounds of the normal song.

wmfchris wrote:

-> I see moddyRPG tagged "smrpg" and "supersoft" in his map of the same series of smrpg OST. Please tag them as well? Didn't see "smrpg" but okay. The more tags the better. Also, it's "squaresoft".

[Taiko]
-disable countdown. I think this was my fault, but there is no countdown on taiko, so it shouldn't matter.
[Inane]
00:13:269 (6) - looks better when right+down 1 grid did grid 1 stuff
01:48:309 (3) - using a curved slider would fits the other notes in the combo oops
01:50:366 (9) - down 1 grid okay
[Normal]
00:13:912 (1) - down 1 grid to make (6,7,1) into a stright line did some grid 1 stuff
00:23:172 (5) - right 1 grid for symmetrical purpose okay
ummmm... the hitsounds are pretty random except the finishes, but it sounds ok for me... and there's room for improvement for the placement of notes orz

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Now... FULL-SUBMIT MY FRICKIN DIFF DAMMIT!!

240,24,88246,2,0,B|312:56|328:-32|428:8|496:164|356:208|272:188,1,400,2|0

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wmfchris wrote:

[Kev-Hard]
00:57:124 (1) - I suggest you to right 1 lv4 grid so that (8,9,1) are symmetrical along a vertical axis. Done
01:23:874 (1,2) - interchange, i.e., single note on (1) and 1/4 slider on 1 beat later? No,sounds fine to me
01:25:160 (4) - adjust the position a bit so that it ends at x:232 instead of x:226 to fit with (2) No
02:05:799 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - uneven spacing Fixed a bit
-> some 1/4 sliders maye too loud.

Garven wrote:

[Kev-Hard]
Raise stack leniency. 7 worked quite well. Done
00:14:427 (2) - Check the alignment compared to the rest of the pattern. Done
00:59:439 (2) - These don't sound very good when comparing to the clean sounds of the percussion from the song itself. Well,I think it's better to leave it as it is now
02:20:460 (4) - Remove whistle from slider body. Done
Overall, kind of a dull difficulty. It's rhythmically stagnant until you reach the bridge, where there's finally something different enough to take the mind away from 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8 zzz (the spacing also lent to this, but it's harder to pull off good jumps in a Hard) Yes,i know,the real problem is that the map is quite repetitive and it isn't very easy to map an Hard here,and this guest diff I made was very old,so I'm better at mapping now

Garven wrote:

[Easy]
tbh, this really felt more of an easier Normal difficulty due to the rhythms used, though it's still put together really well. It'll do for the easiest, imo. Silly thing is, it's easier when you just map every white tick.

[Normal]
01:28:246 (2) - Try this: I edited that one a little more

Garven wrote:

[Cha-Insane]
00:23:944 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why suddenly new combo happy?
01:47:537 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't flow very well. It felt better reversing 5 and 6. Maybe set up a jump from the 6 to where 8 is and head downward with 9 under the current pattern, and control + r the... screw this. Have a screenshot.

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02:20:975 (1) - Add whistle

ziin wrote:

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Now... FULL-SUBMIT MY FRICKIN DIFF DAMMIT!!

Alright, looks like I failed to rename it with a capital "I". Should be fixed now. I've been updating the beatmap whenever you post something, then I post after you, it's just I changed a bunch of meta tags, and you never update your map to get them, so I miss some things (not hitobjects though, since I just copy/paste).

theMikeAG wrote:

~Kev-Hard~
00:15:970 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Fix the hexagon! Adjust accordingly.

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ATTACH[screenshot089.jpg]

No
00:29:345 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Center this.Done

ziin wrote:

Thanks for the thoughts. I realized when making this map it wasn't going to be great or virtually anyone's favorite, but perhaps you could let me know a few things on why it looks like an old mapset so I can change it a little or a lot? I know it's a hard thing to express in written form.

Astom wrote:

Ok as you wish, I'm going to do some suppositions, let's say you started and realized than your map is not going to be so "great" and your supposition turned true, and now you think "oh well is mapped already"

Astom wrote:

so you are gonna regret not remapping this when you are already aware of your maps problems.

Astom wrote:

in your insane I can't appreciate any logic, what is this 00:42:334 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) ? or this 01:38:021 (2,3,4,5,6,7) is that a flower? or why you placed circles like this 02:16:345 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7), because you wanted force that set of circles in your map?
Finally, if you want something symetrical, use grid level 4, also check symetry ussing ctrl+h and ctrl+j, for example here 02:15:316 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) move it to axis Y and press ctrl+h you are gonna notice than (13) isn't alligned with (7) and that obviously isn't made on purpose.

Astom wrote:

[General]
-BG is kinda dark and the combo colour
fixed. I was noticing that too. Brought up the luminosity of blue and green to 85 to match the red.
-BPM 233,230 , be careful at resnap, specially 1/3 circles.
I've wondered if I got the right BPM for a while now, but http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/124154 I'm 12 ms late at 230, and it sounds way early to me. The 1/3 and 1/2 streams at the end I think you might tend to rush a little bit (I know I do). I'm just 5 ms or so early with under 15% mistimed right now, so I think it's fine. I'm an idiot. Sounds better.

[Inane]
Looks better and playable, congratz ^^, the only thing than wonder me is that strange combination of symmetric and nonsymmetric set of circles but nothing wrong with it, just looks a little strange (just saying, don't need to change anything).
In the future I'm going to try to do more symmetry, but 1) this song isn't symmetrical and 2) I'm trying to avoid copy/paste. Beat placement has never bothered me, it's the rhythms that I care about. Perhaps this is my style, though I'm trying to change it.
-00:12:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - personally I don't like this, because is hard of catch at playing,
It's actually easier than the later 1.2x section because you don't actually have to move your mouse to 300 the slider: http://puu.sh/3Wzg from that point it's about 1.0x to the next slider. As it is right now, I have no problem 300ing this every time.

Garven wrote:

[General]
Check the first BPM for Cha-Insane and kev-Hard compared to your own difficulties.

[Cha-Insane]
00:06:711 (1,2) - 1/3 please
00:46:450 (10) - Kind of plays awkwardly as a slider imo
00:59:439 (9,10) - 1/3 blah blah
01:01:754 (2,5,6) - ^
01:06:126 (7,8) - ^
01:08:441 (2,6,7) - ^
01:35:705 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This rhythm was kind of refreshing - a pity you only did it the one time.
02:09:657 (9) - 1/3 yawn
02:11:972 (9) - ^
02:13:001 (4,5) - ^
02:16:602 (10) - Whistle on sliderslide
02:20:975 (1) - Aligned strangely

ziin wrote:

Kevin and Chamele, while I was fixing your BPMs, I noticed that the 1/3 sections are still in 1/4 on your diffs. I'd really like it if you changed them, since 1/4 doesn't fit at all, but for some god forsaken reason too many people on osu are deathly afraid of triplets. If you truly feel that you want to map it incorrectly, I won't make you.

Garven wrote:

[Cha-Insane]
02:16:626 (10) - You still want that whistle on the sliderslide then? You said all fixed so...

Insane:
01:48:071 (3) - Feels better if this isn't stacked at the beginning of the stream.
Cha-Insane:
Slider tick-rate 2 sounds a bit nicer, just my opinion.

Ijah wrote:

Cha-Insane:
Slider tick-rate 2 sounds a bit nicer, just my opinion.