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How to progress smartly through the basic levels of gameplay

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Helyana
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Hibiya-chan
Bookmarked and Subscribed Topic. Tnx :)

Looks like training maps won't be my only collection from now on ;)
meedow shom
but do i really need to set my framerate limiter to 240 fps (normally my pcs doesn't even pass the 110 fps)

because i got an annoying headache every time i play now and i noticed a major input delay and so a performance decrease

Note:i have a 60hz monitor
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Endaris
No you don't have to do it but you may see noticeable issues when trying to get good accuracy on OD8+.
The gamemechanics only work on a per-frame basis. Every click you do will be assigned towards the active frame (or the next one, not sure)
120FPS = 1 frame per 8.3ms
This means that the detected input will be off by about 4.2ms on average from your real input and by up to 8.2ms in singular worst case scenarios.
If you compare this with the ranges for OD found here it becomes fairly obvious that such a random deviation inputwise can have a noticeable influence on your accuracy. On OD10 you need to be at almost twice as accurate to assure getting SS compared to a hypothetical infinite framerate.
On 240FPS this random deviation is already halved -> 2ms random deviation and 4.1ms in worst case is already a lot less likely to become relevant for accuracy.
Experienced players can actually perceive the difference between 120FPS and unlimited due to hitsounds having a slight delay that may be long enough in the worse cases to be audible regardless of OD since the delay affects hitsounds as well.

This is completely unrelated to the refreshrate of your monitor! Only related to the gamemechanics as explained above.
If you are getting a headache from playing after altering your framerate feel free to switch back.
If your PC can't handle 240FPS switch back as well. osu! is optimized to run at very high FPS(like 1000 or so) therefore even the worst toasters are usually able to do 240FPS when there are no other programs opened and the skin used runs small filesizes. Toasters being able to run this well is also related to the game-engine and graphics running on the same thread.

Another thing you can try regarding headache is setting a custom FPS which you can do by opening the file "osu!.Username.cfg" (Username will be the name of your windows account I think).
In this file there's a line called "CustomFrameLimit = 240".
When you press F7 to switch through your FPS-settings this one will appear between 120 and Unlimited(after restarting osu!). Changing it to a number that isn't dividable by your monitor refreshrate may reduce screentearing and make the monitor more comfortable to look at again. It also gives you the opportunity to use a framerate lower than 240 that is still above 120 so you get the best of each side.
Yuudachi-kun
Holy shit, I can edit that to like 960 right?
Topic Starter
Endaris
Yep. Even though you probably confirmed it yourself already.
mizuki-chan
The fps tipp was new to me. Thanks for sharing this !
kaetschap
thank you for the guide! :)
DarthSkrill
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9130102

Well, that's all my silver s's... This is gonna take a long time.

What do I do when the map's so easy I only have dt plays on it? It feels like I'm putting them in a place below what they deserve... Anyways, I don't really want to do all the extra work of separating them out.
Topic Starter
Endaris
Hi, personally I ended up making separate collections for maps with a difficulty increasing mod (excluding HD in most cases).
They're called HR in my case because I originally made them when I wanted to start learning HR but anything modded goes in there, EZ, DT, HD on low AR maps and even some FL.


If you don't want to do the work then don't. It's more for beginners anyway as you'll be able to know what you want to play and competently do so at your level.
DarthSkrill
In mania, star rating is so bad that 5*=4.5* at its worst. I really don't know what I'm gonna get on a completely new map...

Edit: actually 5.3<4.2
SpasticSurgeon
Sorry to necro this but is there anyway to get these new % collections at the top of my list? I have many collections that are dear to me already.
KupcaH

SpasticSurgeon wrote:

Sorry to necro this but is there anyway to get these new % collections at the top of my list? I have many collections that are dear to me already.
Yes, put dot in the beginning of collection name. Like:
.<88
.88-92%
.92-95%

etc.
SpasticSurgeon

KupcaH wrote:

SpasticSurgeon wrote:

Sorry to necro this but is there anyway to get these new % collections at the top of my list? I have many collections that are dear to me already.
Yes, put dot in the beginning of collection name. Like:
.<88
.88-92%
.92-95%

etc.
thx
kujubuo
i have just seen op being online on forums so i wanna ask this (i think this doesnt count as necro)

what should i do with the maps that i get lower than 88% should i play them?
Lirrnaiad
yes this is necro

no you don't unless you're playing it for fun
dung eater
necro, can you migrate to my fortress and write a book please
Topic Starter
Endaris

eminegeaslan wrote:

i have just seen op being online on forums so i wanna ask this (i think this doesnt count as necro)

what should i do with the maps that i get lower than 88% should i play them?
Yes, of course!
Maps below 88% are maps you are very bad at and it's upon you to identify why:
There are maps that are very low SR and that you may have immense trouble reading. It is totally worthwhile to practice these!
On the other hand, if you just played Image Material NF for fun and got 60% and sorted it into that collection then it should be relatively obvious that both your aim and stream skills are very very far away from being able to sensibly practice 7* marathon maps.

Sorting via SR essentially automatically orders them for you and tells you which maps in your 88% folder you should play.
If you have a hypothetic 200 maps in your <88% folder then I would generally say it does not make a lot of sense to play the latter 150 for practice purposes in most cases. But play the folder like you would any other as it likely contains the maps that condense a set of your biggest weaknesses and is therefore a great source of (future) practice maps.

Generally speaking which folders you play how much is based on your personal preference as for how much accuracy you consider satisfying for yourself. If you're fine playing the game just up to 97%, then you will probably just play the lower folders a lot more. While the system totally tries to push you into reading and accuracy, the degree of your desired mastery is something you decide for yourself and you can totally just sort out maps like I did as well.

(and no, this isn't a necro as it is 100% relevant to the topic and would not make sense as part of a new topic at all)
Voidedosu
(Technically it's a necro considering it's bringing a 3-year-old post back from the dead, but that's more the letter of the word than the spirit; in spirit this is totally justifiable for the exact reason Eminege described.)

Also I would totally use this if I wasn't an SS player which makes all the percentage sorting pointless. I do sort by estimated pp values (gathered from ezpp and osu-pp) on songs I have yet to SS, though, whenever I get the chance. I also try to separate them into different star ranges and mod usages, although I wager the former could just be condensed and sorted by SR to avoid bloating on collections.
Manishh
My question: what accuracy should I go for if i am trying to be out of comfortzone
(I play 5star and trying to go used to it)
Topic Starter
Endaris

manishmathur wrote:

My question: what accuracy should I go for if i am trying to be out of comfortzone
(I play 5star and trying to go used to it)
Honestly, this is quite difficult to answer because starting at high 4*, map styles start to massively branch out and the map's OD becomes a bigger factor in accuracy as well which leads to a 5.5* OD7 aim map being on a similar level of difficulty for getting 95% acc compared to a 4.5* OD8 stream map with compound timing.
Which is also why this system becomes gradually less useful the better you get because you will entirely end up playing mid 4* high OD maps that are hard to acc.
Not to say that's a bad thing but if you say "outside of my comfortzone" that can go into many different aspects that are very specific to your personal skill as a player.

If you want to challenge yourself, I would personally recommend to simply join multiplayer lobbies. By experience, anything that is called 4* will end up having mostly maps above 4.5* etc.
Just make sure you click the "here" link of Bancho when you join the multiroom so you can sort the maps into your collections after the multi ends if you don't manage it during the multi itself.
Multilobbies usually just throw about anything at you that exists out there and it will also force you to sightread most of the time so it will most likely take you out of your comfortzone.
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