So uh... I got osu on this Mac, and I'm noticing a severe input delay..especially playing taiko. Is that something that has to deal with the Mac itself?
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If you're coming from Windows then, yes, the input delay is pretty significant. Make sure that you're also using the US keyboard layout (just in case) as I know someone else had severe input lag with a different layout.Ultradespairgir wrote:
So uh... I got osu on this Mac, and I'm noticing a severe input delay..especially playing taiko. Is that something that has to deal with the Mac itself?
(happens with logitech G 203 mouse) ive encountered a problem with frame rate in the (Intel Wineskin wrapper) the game runs Beatifully at 120fps in a low end macbook and framedrops dont go any lower than 95 or 100, however once some time passes, around 10-15-20-30 minutes the game starts to freeze everytime you move the mouse anywhere, this already happens if you set the polling rate to 1000hz, however once you put it to 500hz it is solved, only problem is that im not sure wether 500Hz is only smooth for a set amount of time or if its an external problem, just wanted to report that for anyone that uses gaming mouse gear and or drivers
It only happens when you're using the mouse, and only after 30 mins when the polling rate is 1000 Hz? Hmm.. interesting.
Some ideas:
- Earlier versions of Big Sur have had polling issues so try updating.
- Turning on V-Sync *may* help potentially.
- Also try turning on Raw Input in osu!.
- Check CPU usage, and if it's capping out then likely mouse / osu! performance will be impacted
Anything above 125 Hz is likely to have issues running on WINE or even just macOS in general. There's quite a lot of issues online about high polling rates and WINE, which you might be able to take a look at. Generally speaking, isolating the issue is quite challenging since it could be caused by a variety of factors. CPU usage, WINE, drivers, etc. can all affect gameplay experience with the mouse.
There's quite a number of things you can try but as I said before, it's pretty hard to isolate what issue it is and you'll have to try going through various internet solutions until you might find one that works. Otherwise, the only thing you can really do is lower to 125 Hz.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46976
Best of luck!
Some ideas:
- Earlier versions of Big Sur have had polling issues so try updating.
- Turning on V-Sync *may* help potentially.
- Also try turning on Raw Input in osu!.
- Check CPU usage, and if it's capping out then likely mouse / osu! performance will be impacted
Anything above 125 Hz is likely to have issues running on WINE or even just macOS in general. There's quite a lot of issues online about high polling rates and WINE, which you might be able to take a look at. Generally speaking, isolating the issue is quite challenging since it could be caused by a variety of factors. CPU usage, WINE, drivers, etc. can all affect gameplay experience with the mouse.
There's quite a number of things you can try but as I said before, it's pretty hard to isolate what issue it is and you'll have to try going through various internet solutions until you might find one that works. Otherwise, the only thing you can really do is lower to 125 Hz.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46976
Best of luck!
Hey I just installed Mac OS Big Sur and now the Mac OS agent application instantly crashes as soon I try to open it and I tried reinstalling it and i'm not really sure what's the problem so any help would be appreciated.
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SullyTheHam
SullyTheHam wrote:
Hey I just installed Mac OS Big Sur and now the Mac OS agent application instantly crashes as soon I try to open it and I tried reinstalling it and i'm not really sure what's the problem so any help would be appreciated.
Please move osu!macOS Agent to the Desktop. Then open Terminal and type this command and press enter:
~/Desktop/osu\!macOS\ Agent.app/Contents/MacOS/osu\!macOS\ Agentand then paste the command output here (in a spoiler box please).
the polling rate issue seemed to be fixed just by using 500Hz, however for some reason after updating from mojave 10.14.5 to 10.14.6 the game runs fine for about 3 seconds mouse movement and everything, but after that time passes moving the mouse scalates the delay by 56ms and a stable 17ms when playing (with the reduce frame drops option on), i decided to install catalina to see if that fixes it but it didnt change much, ill try reinstalling osu and see if something happens
(update) To make it more clear, i decided to test this issue with Katana ZERO wich uses a lot of mouse movement at first in mojave 10.14.6 it was notably laggy when i moved my mouse most of the time, but as i updgraded to catalina Katana ZERO seems to run just fine, so to continue the previous issue; Osu seems to be the only game affected by this lag altough im not sure what the issue is, no GPU or RAM heavy task is runing in the background while osu is running, i tried with polling rate of 1000hz, 500hz, 250hz and 125. Discord wich has shown to slow down the game is not open, my FAN is at its fastest speed, take in mind non of this issues happened while i had mac os mojave 10.14.5 and my graphics card and proccesor are able to handle games of similar weigth to osu with stable frames, Closed G hub to see if that was the problem but nothing happened, i put the "MyPCSucks = 1" slightly better but unplayable for the most part, i tried reinstalling but it seems the game still percists in giving me a hard time
(update) To make it more clear, i decided to test this issue with Katana ZERO wich uses a lot of mouse movement at first in mojave 10.14.6 it was notably laggy when i moved my mouse most of the time, but as i updgraded to catalina Katana ZERO seems to run just fine, so to continue the previous issue; Osu seems to be the only game affected by this lag altough im not sure what the issue is, no GPU or RAM heavy task is runing in the background while osu is running, i tried with polling rate of 1000hz, 500hz, 250hz and 125. Discord wich has shown to slow down the game is not open, my FAN is at its fastest speed, take in mind non of this issues happened while i had mac os mojave 10.14.5 and my graphics card and proccesor are able to handle games of similar weigth to osu with stable frames, Closed G hub to see if that was the problem but nothing happened, i put the "MyPCSucks = 1" slightly better but unplayable for the most part, i tried reinstalling but it seems the game still percists in giving me a hard time
SPM37
SPM37 wrote:
the polling rate issue seemed to be fixed just by using 500Hz, however for some reason after updating from mojave 10.14.5 to 10.14.6 the game runs fine for about 3 seconds mouse movement and everything, but after that time passes moving the mouse scalates the delay by 56ms and a stable 17ms when playing (with the reduce frame drops option on), i decided to install catalina to see if that fixes it but it didnt change much, ill try reinstalling osu and see if something happens
(update) To make it more clear, i decided to test this issue with Katana ZERO wich uses a lot of mouse movement at first in mojave 10.14.6 it was notably laggy when i moved my mouse most of the time, but as i updgraded to catalina Katana ZERO seems to run just fine, so to continue the previous issue; Osu seems to be the only game affected by this lag altough im not sure what the issue is, no GPU or RAM heavy task is runing in the background while osu is running, i tried with polling rate of 1000hz, 500hz, 250hz and 125. Discord wich has shown to slow down the game is not open, my FAN is at its fastest speed, take in mind non of this issues happened while i had mac os mojave 10.14.5 and my graphics card and proccesor are able to handle games of similar weigth to osu with stable frames, Closed G hub to see if that was the problem but nothing happened, i put the "MyPCSucks = 1" slightly better but unplayable for the most part, i tried reinstalling but it seems the game still percists in giving me a hard time
I don't have a high-performance mouse so I can't really try to reproduce this. Your precise issue is reproduced here though: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/3700#issuecomment-609559241
I don't know if there's a regression from Mojave 10.14.5 to 10.14.6 (the changelog is vague and nothing stands out to me being something which would affect WINE). More likely a setting you changed got reverted/wiped during the update. But I wouldn't really know what the change would be or how you'd revert it. With Katana Zero, I presume you're running it natively, which is why you'd get better mouse performance there. Even if native games run well, that doesn't mean WINE games will run well either.
It's quite challenging to isolate the issue down. If your CPU/iGPU usage is high that could be a problem, so you should check that. This can be seen through Activity Monitor (for GPU hit Command-4). Other users reported switching from a USB3 to a USB2 port, or using an older Wine version (this requires you to build your own Wineskin wrapper), or turning off/on mouse acceleration would help. Regardless it is an issue with no known fix (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/mouse_polling_rate#Polling_rate_resulting_in_lag_with_wine)
This issue is a pain to isolate, which is probably the reason why it never got properly supported in WINE. Bad macOS mouse support doesn't help this issue either. If I had to guess, it could be a CPU issue, so check performance. If it isn't that or any of the above solutions, then it's probably an upstream issue with WINE.
It would help if you posted your system specs too and how well the game runs at the different polling rates on your current version of macOS - 125, 250, 500, 1000
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On another note, I have updated osu!mac with information on previous user reports surrounding the game crashing. https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced/silentcrash
I believe it was a regression introduced with the osu! executable, but since the user reports have dried up I'm assuming that the regression has reversed, there is no point pursuing it further. For future issues like this, I'm working on a end user debugger software that should help if we ever run across those types of regressions again. Might take a while to develop so in the meantime keep the osu!macOS Agent reports and Wineskin Test Runs coming! (steps available at https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/issues/troubleshooting.html).
If you continue to experience issues with getting the game to run, please continue making replies either here in the thread or in the Help Forum and I'm sure someone will get around to it.
Personal thanks from me to Technocoder for his continued work on the Wineskin wrapper as well, and to Gcenx for maintaining the WineskinServer fork, as well as to everyone else who's helped out. Many hours of playtime clicking circles and (smashing keys in mania haha) have happened because of these guys!!
Technocoder wrote:
SullyTheHamSullyTheHam wrote:
Hey I just installed Mac OS Big Sur and now the Mac OS agent application instantly crashes as soon I try to open it and I tried reinstalling it and i'm not really sure what's the problem so any help would be appreciated.
Please move osu!macOS Agent to the Desktop. Then open Terminal and type this command and press enter:~/Desktop/osu\!macOS\ Agent.app/Contents/MacOS/osu\!macOS\ Agentand then paste the command output here (in a spoiler box please).
Read the spoiler box above
Topic Starter
I've rebuilt osu!macOS Agent with macOS 11 instead of macOS latest (which is pinned on Catalina for the moment). Please try downloading the agent again and see if that fixes the issue.
Thank you so much!!! It works perfectly.Technocoder wrote:
I've rebuilt osu!macOS Agent with macOS 11 instead of macOS latest (which is pinned on Catalina for the moment). Please try downloading the agent again and see if that fixes the issue.
first of all, thank you for the detailed response, seconds of all i dont know if i should quote the reply or not considering its so long lol, but back to the point, ive tried playing osu Rosetta this morning after countlesly granting permissions to a bunch of apps as i just recently isntalled catalina, the game Somehow for some reason now runs like non of the above ever happened, as with the polling rate, 500HZ seems to run just fine at 1440x810 resolution both in game and in my overall resolution, i can feel a delay but osu itself dosent seem to detect it so ill try and test wether its the rosseta`s wrapper fault or if its some exterior problem, as to my specs here:
Graphics card: Intel HD Graphics 5000 (integrated)
RAM: 4GB 1600MHz DDR3
Proccesor: 1.3GHz Intel Core i5 (2 cores)
MAC OS: 10.15.7
thats all in the "About My Mac" section, ill try to update in the "Intel Wrapper" do take in mind that this text was written as i discovered this miraculous perfomance,so uhh yeah this might change pretty drastically, got to add that i also tested this with CSGO, its runs horrible at times but the perfomance is exactly the same as previous versions, nothing changed at all, Polling rate included and to answer the "Katana ZERO" question yes i did run it natively.
Also ill try to run a test in the 4 different polling rates as soon as i manage to stabilize Osu´s perfomance
small update: nvm what i just previously wrote, the game in rossetas wineskin runs well enough altough the frames go from 200 to 90 from time to time, MS are fine until a few seconds into the song it starts to go from 5.2ms to 8-10ms
intel Wineskin update: its pretty odd tbh but the game runs fine mouse movement and all up until a few seconds of the app being opened, for the first 4 seconds its the same fluid movement but up until 7-10 seconds it starts getting 14ms, altough the fps drops seem to have fixed themselves, whats even MORE odd is how the MS seem to stabilize to 5MS when i change the polling rate mid game, but after 2 seconds it jumps to 15ms automatically with no other number in between ever appearing as if the game just realized or something, also skins just make the MS even worse as well as the FPS too
Graphics card: Intel HD Graphics 5000 (integrated)
RAM: 4GB 1600MHz DDR3
Proccesor: 1.3GHz Intel Core i5 (2 cores)
MAC OS: 10.15.7
thats all in the "About My Mac" section, ill try to update in the "Intel Wrapper" do take in mind that this text was written as i discovered this miraculous perfomance,so uhh yeah this might change pretty drastically, got to add that i also tested this with CSGO, its runs horrible at times but the perfomance is exactly the same as previous versions, nothing changed at all, Polling rate included and to answer the "Katana ZERO" question yes i did run it natively.
Also ill try to run a test in the 4 different polling rates as soon as i manage to stabilize Osu´s perfomance
small update: nvm what i just previously wrote, the game in rossetas wineskin runs well enough altough the frames go from 200 to 90 from time to time, MS are fine until a few seconds into the song it starts to go from 5.2ms to 8-10ms
intel Wineskin update: its pretty odd tbh but the game runs fine mouse movement and all up until a few seconds of the app being opened, for the first 4 seconds its the same fluid movement but up until 7-10 seconds it starts getting 14ms, altough the fps drops seem to have fixed themselves, whats even MORE odd is how the MS seem to stabilize to 5MS when i change the polling rate mid game, but after 2 seconds it jumps to 15ms automatically with no other number in between ever appearing as if the game just realized or something, also skins just make the MS even worse as well as the FPS too
SPM37
SPM37 wrote:
first of all, thank you for the detailed response, seconds of all i dont know if i should quote the reply or not considering its so long lol, but back to the point, ive tried playing osu Rosetta this morning after countlesly granting permissions to a bunch of apps as i just recently isntalled catalina, the game Somehow for some reason now runs like non of the above ever happened, as with the polling rate, 500HZ seems to run just fine at 1440x810 resolution both in game and in my overall resolution, i can feel a delay but osu itself dosent seem to detect it so ill try and test wether its the rosseta`s wrapper fault or if its some exterior problem, as to my specs here:
Graphics card: Intel HD Graphics 5000 (integrated)
RAM: 4GB 1600MHz DDR3
Proccesor: 1.3GHz Intel Core i5 (2 cores)
MAC OS: 10.15.7
thats all in the "About My Mac" section, ill try to update in the "Intel Wrapper" do take in mind that this text was written as i discovered this miraculous perfomance,so uhh yeah this might change pretty drastically, got to add that i also tested this with CSGO, its runs horrible at times but the perfomance is exactly the same as previous versions, nothing changed at all, Polling rate included and to answer the "Katana ZERO" question yes i did run it natively.
Also ill try to run a test in the 4 different polling rates as soon as i manage to stabilize Osu´s perfomance
small update: nvm what i just previously wrote, the game in rossetas wineskin runs well enough altough the frames go from 200 to 90 from time to time, MS are fine until a few seconds into the song it starts to go from 5.2ms to 8-10ms
intel Wineskin update: its pretty odd tbh but the game runs fine mouse movement and all up until a few seconds of the app being opened, for the first 4 seconds its the same fluid movement but up until 7-10 seconds it starts getting 14ms, altough the fps drops seem to have fixed themselves, whats even MORE odd is how the MS seem to stabilize to 5MS when i change the polling rate mid game, but after 2 seconds it jumps to 15ms automatically with no other number in between ever appearing as if the game just realized or something, also skins just make the MS even worse as well as the FPS too
Although it's slightly weird (but somewhat understandable) that permissions settings would affect your game performance, it at least confirms my theory there's no system-level regression.
I think from memory the Rosetta wrapper uses a newer engine than the Intel version. It sounds like a performance issue, especially considering the high CPU usage of polling rates combined with your specs. I assume 1000Hz would still be too high for you then? I would check to see your performance as mentioned above, and if its capping out then that would be a performance limitation of your computer. I doubt it would be a WINE issue if you're playing decently past 125Hz.
I might make an osu!mac (https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io) entry about this, but it does seem something hard to diagnose so I'm happy you figured out a way to play!
Dont get me wrong the game is very annoying to use even at 125hz so i doubt i will be playing osu for a while, however considering that this all started since i installed macOS Mojave`s 10.14.6 security update wich has shown to make games run horribly, then id say ill have to format the Mac and if i happen to see a perfomance boost in between MacOS mojave 10.14.0 - 10.14.5 then ill come back and report on that as well, polling rate seems fine from 500Hz to 125HZ to clarify, before i updated to the security update it was smoothly running at 120FPS and 5.3MS occasionally spiking at 6.0ms but nothing major, its seems weird to me that this specific security update is so detrimental for games so for now if anybody reading this is considering doing that small security update id say it would be better to either leave it like it is or just update to Catalina straigth away, also thank you for the responses. Also my Mac is from 2013, so maybe catalina has some problems with that altough i wouldnt be able to tell, forgot to add but Turning on Raw Input seems to make both input lag and Fps lag more notorious
SPM37
SPM37 wrote:
Dont get me wrong the game is very annoying to use even at 125hz so i doubt i will be playing osu for a while, however considering that this all started since i installed macOS Mojave`s 10.14.6 security update wich has shown to make games run horribly, then id say ill have to format the Mac and if i happen to see a perfomance boost in between MacOS mojave 10.14.0 - 10.14.5 then ill come back and report on that as well, polling rate seems fine from 500Hz to 125HZ to clarify, before i updated to the security update it was smoothly running at 120FPS and 5.3MS occasionally spiking at 6.0ms but nothing major, its seems weird to me that this specific security update is so detrimental for games so for now if anybody reading this is considering doing that small security update id say it would be better to either leave it like it is or just update to Catalina straigth away, also thank you for the responses. Also my Mac is from 2013, so maybe catalina has some problems with that altough i wouldnt be able to tell, forgot to add but Turning on Raw Input seems to make both input lag and Fps lag more notorious
So you're saying osu! game performance died (even @ 125Hz) when you updated to 10.14.6? But previous versions of Mojave and also Catalina have better game performance?
I don't think it is necessary to format your Mac. I doubt that a minor system update would affect WINE to that extent. Before you do that, try running your computer in Safe Mode then run osu!. If the game still runs poorly there, then I guess you can reformat if you are unable to determine any other cause, but I'm skeptical that the cause of this was the security update, although maybe during an update process a setting got toggled, like your permissions for example (which improved your performance from what I can see) - but again, there is only one way to find out if this is something you'd like to try.
You should keep in mind your Mac is relatively old. I'm surprised you managed to get 120 fps and 5.3ms. I'm on a 2016 MBP and I get 25ms minimum where I have cappped the framerate at 60fps.
I'm interested in hearing back from your findings!
if the security update does in fact affect game performance, I'll pull out an old Mac and check it out for myself. Unfortunately I can't reproduce either the Mojave performance impact or the mouse polling rate for myself now.Can someone make a version for Mac os Big sur? still waiting for it.
i have replicated this issue 2 times this one included, i remember formating my mac back to mountain lion before because of this, i even remember slowly updating my way from Mojave 10.14.1 to 10.14.15 since i was curious wich update ruined the games perfomance, eventually i stoped at 10.14.5 as time passed i guess i forgot about it and since i already started to download the update i had no option but to download it mostly because it was making up space in my hard drive, and sure enough the issue happened again, by this im pretty sure it does affect something since i was playing fine before updating, i can back this up by the fact that the update only took about 15-30 mins and after the restart the issue started happening and it seems odd that my pc just started to malfunction in a 15-30 min timespan, aditionally other games started to malfunction as well with the exception of CSGO wich i tested after updating to catalina, altough if this issue only affects wine then i would have to test it with different games, GTA San andreas comes to mind since i do remember it being laggy at some point altough i dont remember the update in wich this happened so i cant really back this up,
ive done every trick in the book to run osu at its best perfomance but i didnt get any satisfying results
also the game itself runs somewhat laggy by default so to run it at a better perfomance i usually just go to osu! files and go to osu."yourMacOsUsername".cfg and look for "MyPCSucks = 0" then change it to 1, in almost every wrapper of osu of this projects life span i have tried it seems to do the job just fine, only with this issue has this not worked, ive also tried and incredibly low end skin but still getting lag and input lag spikes and bad input lag overall as well
well is gonna be a pain re downloading everything in my pc thats for sure,
also TETR.io`s desktop app seems to work fine as well, i added this since the game seems to have similar hardware requirements to osu but aside from that nothing really important
ive done every trick in the book to run osu at its best perfomance but i didnt get any satisfying results
also the game itself runs somewhat laggy by default so to run it at a better perfomance i usually just go to osu! files and go to osu."yourMacOsUsername".cfg and look for "MyPCSucks = 0" then change it to 1, in almost every wrapper of osu of this projects life span i have tried it seems to do the job just fine, only with this issue has this not worked, ive also tried and incredibly low end skin but still getting lag and input lag spikes and bad input lag overall as well
well is gonna be a pain re downloading everything in my pc thats for sure,
also TETR.io`s desktop app seems to work fine as well, i added this since the game seems to have similar hardware requirements to osu but aside from that nothing really important
Which link do I use for Catalina 10.15.7?
my tablet isn't working on the link I'm using, which is the Catalina or older one
Edit:nvm I was just dumb and didn't enable permissions for my tablet, thanks for the help tho
my tablet isn't working on the link I'm using, which is the Catalina or older one
Edit:nvm I was just dumb and didn't enable permissions for my tablet, thanks for the help tho
Ive followed all the steps, but when I press repair it does nothing here is the report
EDIT : Thank You very much for the quick response, but I entered the command and it said "ImportError: No module named pkg_resource
Report
Version 10.13.6 (Build 17G14042)
Engine: WS11WineCX64Bit20.0.2
Wineskin 2.9.0.7-rc4
Release: Stable40
Quarantine attribute is absent (bundle)
Quarantine attribute is absent (wrapper)
Execute flag is present
Detect Direct3D is disabled
Game user configuration is absent
System Integrity Protection is enabled
Engine version is supported
Razer Synapse is absent
Log file: update.log is absent
Log file: runtime.log is absent
Engine: WS11WineCX64Bit20.0.2
Wineskin 2.9.0.7-rc4
Release: Stable40
Quarantine attribute is absent (bundle)
Quarantine attribute is absent (wrapper)
Execute flag is present
Detect Direct3D is disabled
Game user configuration is absent
System Integrity Protection is enabled
Engine version is supported
Razer Synapse is absent
Log file: update.log is absent
Log file: runtime.log is absent
EDIT : Thank You very much for the quick response, but I entered the command and it said "ImportError: No module named pkg_resource
Sorry for late replies. I had this in my draft over the weekend but got caught up with Ludum Dare 49
This doesn't seem like something we can fix on our end. If there's multiple applications and system functionality being impacted by this system upgrade, you should either update to the latest version or revert back to an older version.
If you think this is an issue with the Wineskin however (as in, everything else works normally except for the wrapper) - then please let us know. As you mentioned it worked before, but if other (native) games aren't working as well, it's not a Wine issue. Feel free to let us know any problems, but it seems like unfortunately there's a problem with your computer, so we can't do much from our end except for advice on how to try and go about diagnosing it, which of course we're happy to do
You should install try the most recent version of the Wineskin first (aka Rosetta Wineskin). If that doesn't work, then try the Intel Wineskin. If you believe that a legacy download will help fix your problem, you can use the links under Outdated Downloads in the top post. Please let us know if there is something working in older version, which isn't working in newer versions.
All download links are available in the original post.
This report looks fine to me and if you try opening osu! again it should work. If it still doesn't work, please try this command.
where ~/path/to/my/osu\!.app is the local filepath to your osu! app. Please keep the quotation marks and backslash in the command.
More info on repairing Wineskins can be found here: https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install/silicon.html#step-2-repair-the-wineskin
Nippuboy
The Wineskin has always supported Big Sur! Please follow the installation instructions in the original thread or visit https://osu-mac.readthedocs.ioNippuboy wrote:
Can someone make a version for Mac os Big sur? still waiting for it.
SPM37
So you're saying the update both impacted osu! as well as other games and system behaviour, except for CS:GO?SPM37 wrote:
i have replicated this issue 2 times this one included, i remember formating my mac back to mountain lion before because of this, i even remember slowly updating my way from Mojave 10.14.1 to 10.14.15 since i was curious wich update ruined the games perfomance, eventually i stoped at 10.14.5 as time passed i guess i forgot about it and since i already started to download the update i had no option but to download it mostly because it was making up space in my hard drive, and sure enough the issue happened again, by this im pretty sure it does affect something since i was playing fine before updating, i can back this up by the fact that the update only took about 15-30 mins and after the restart the issue started happening and it seems odd that my pc just started to malfunction in a 15-30 min timespan, aditionally other games started to malfunction as well with the exception of CSGO wich i tested after updating to catalina, altough if this issue only affects wine then i would have to test it with different games, GTA San andreas comes to mind since i do remember it being laggy at some point altough i dont remember the update in wich this happened so i cant really back this up,
ive done every trick in the book to run osu at its best perfomance but i didnt get any satisfying results
also the game itself runs somewhat laggy by default so to run it at a better perfomance i usually just go to osu! files and go to osu."yourMacOsUsername".cfg and look for "MyPCSucks = 0" then change it to 1, in almost every wrapper of osu of this projects life span i have tried it seems to do the job just fine, only with this issue has this not worked, ive also tried and incredibly low end skin but still getting lag and input lag spikes and bad input lag overall as well
well is gonna be a pain re downloading everything in my pc thats for sure,
also TETR.io`s desktop app seems to work fine as well, i added this since the game seems to have similar hardware requirements to osu but aside from that nothing really important
This doesn't seem like something we can fix on our end. If there's multiple applications and system functionality being impacted by this system upgrade, you should either update to the latest version or revert back to an older version.
If you think this is an issue with the Wineskin however (as in, everything else works normally except for the wrapper) - then please let us know. As you mentioned it worked before, but if other (native) games aren't working as well, it's not a Wine issue. Feel free to let us know any problems, but it seems like unfortunately there's a problem with your computer, so we can't do much from our end except for advice on how to try and go about diagnosing it, which of course we're happy to do
benyu982
What tablet are you using, and have you installed tablet drivers on Mac? I'm not sure about tablets since I don't own one myself.benyu982 wrote:
Which link do I use for Catalina 10.15.7?
my tablet isn't working on the link I'm using, which is the Catalina or older one
You should install try the most recent version of the Wineskin first (aka Rosetta Wineskin). If that doesn't work, then try the Intel Wineskin. If you believe that a legacy download will help fix your problem, you can use the links under Outdated Downloads in the top post. Please let us know if there is something working in older version, which isn't working in newer versions.
All download links are available in the original post.
This report looks fine to me and if you try opening osu! again it should work. If it still doesn't work, please try this command.
sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine "~/path/to/my/osu\!.app"
where ~/path/to/my/osu\!.app is the local filepath to your osu! app. Please keep the quotation marks and backslash in the command.
More info on repairing Wineskins can be found here: https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install/silicon.html#step-2-repair-the-wineskin
Topic Starter
Zeref1o1
Your macOS Python installation has been altered/corrupted. If it still doesn't work, for a workaround, right click osu! and then select Show Package Contents and copy all of the files inside into a new folder named "osu!", and then rename the folder to "osu!.app". If it still doesn't work then perhaps you need to relaunch osu! a few times.Zeref1o1 wrote:
Ive followed all the steps, but when I press repair it does nothing here is the reportReportVersion 10.13.6 (Build 17G14042)
Engine: WS11WineCX64Bit20.0.2
Wineskin 2.9.0.7-rc4
Release: Stable40
Quarantine attribute is absent (bundle)
Quarantine attribute is absent (wrapper)
Execute flag is present
Detect Direct3D is disabled
Game user configuration is absent
System Integrity Protection is enabled
Engine version is supported
Razer Synapse is absent
Log file: update.log is absent
Log file: runtime.log is absent
EDIT : Thank You very much for the quick response, but I entered the command and it said "ImportError: No module named pkg_resource
I don't know if it's asked here already, but how do I create the new file?
(Edit: In the latest Wineskin, the only problem is the settings icon not showing up right?)
(Edit: In the latest Wineskin, the only problem is the settings icon not showing up right?)
LeiiiWasHere
LeiiiWasHere wrote:
I don't know if it's asked here already, but how do I create the new file?
(Edit: In the latest Wineskin, the only problem is the settings icon not showing up right?)
Not sure what new file you're talking about?
Settings icons don't work, that's correct. If they're important to you, you can enable them using the steps in the original thread, but this will break CJK icons in the process.
Hello, I seem to be facing the [SilentCrash](https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced/silentcrash.html) bug. TLDR, I open the osu in any method, nothing shows up (no wine no terminal nothing, no wine processes in activity monitor). I used osu debug agent for troubleshoot-repair, nothing is wrong.
Reinstalling solved the problem tho, which unfortunately I did before reading your docs. I will help debug it if the problem appears again (which it will from my experience).
Reinstalling solved the problem tho, which unfortunately I did before reading your docs. I will help debug it if the problem appears again (which it will from my experience).
boomminecraft8
boomminecraft8 wrote:
Hello, I seem to be facing the [SilentCrash](https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced/silentcrash.html) bug. TLDR, I open the osu in any method, nothing shows up (no wine no terminal nothing, no wine processes in activity monitor). I used osu debug agent for troubleshoot-repair, nothing is wrong.
Reinstalling solved the problem tho, which unfortunately I did before reading your docs. I will help debug it if the problem appears again (which it will from my experience).
Did reinstalling (dotnet or wrapper?) fix your issue? I believe it's a regression with the osu! executable which was subsequently fixed/reversed, but that's my guess without access to source nor a working reproduction of the issue.
Also 500th post woo! 🎉
Nice bro! This game is so fun : )
Hey! I figured out how to install Osu!, now my only problem is: When I update Osu!, it frequently hangs and sometimes the beatmap's background is entirely black [https://imgur.com/OFnU37X] Any Idea why this is happening?aidswidjaja wrote:
LeiiiWasHereLeiiiWasHere wrote:
I don't know if it's asked here already, but how do I create the new file?
(Edit: In the latest Wineskin, the only problem is the settings icon not showing up right?)
Not sure what new file you're talking about?
Settings icons don't work, that's correct. If they're important to you, you can enable them using the steps in the original thread, but this will break CJK icons in the process.
LeiiiWasHere
LeiiiWasHere wrote:
Hey! I figured out how to install Osu!, now my only problem is: When I update Osu!, it frequently hangs and sometimes the beatmap's background is entirely black [https://imgur.com/OFnU37X] Any Idea why this is happening?aidswidjaja wrote:
LeiiiWasHereLeiiiWasHere wrote:
I don't know if it's asked here already, but how do I create the new file?
(Edit: In the latest Wineskin, the only problem is the settings icon not showing up right?)
Not sure what new file you're talking about?
Settings icons don't work, that's correct. If they're important to you, you can enable them using the steps in the original thread, but this will break CJK icons in the process.
Could you try running a Test Run while recreating the steps that you take, including when the beatmap background shows up as black.
Test Run steps
Step 3: Generating a Test Run through Wineskin
- Locate your osu! installation.
- Right click on it, then select Show Package Contents.
- Open Wineskin.
- Click Advanced.
- Click Test Run. If osu! starts successfully (even with glitches), you can then close the program down. Once the program has either closed or crashed, a dialog will pop up asking you whether you want to view Test Run Logs. Click Yes.
- Copy the results of your Test Run logs to a pastebin such as paste.ubuntu.com set to never expire. Then attach the link in a reply to this thread, along with the report from osu!macOS Agent in Step 1.
What are your computer specs as well?
Hi, I downloaded osu for Catalina along with osu!macOS Agent. Using the troubleshoot, scan, and repair. It worked wonderfully the first time I launched it, updating itself then jumping into osu!. But when I came back to it later in the day, I can't get it to open via the app icon, or the osu!macOS Agent route. I had to delete osu!, redownload, and go through the troubleshooting steps. Then it launched normally once again, updating itself aswell. Is it normal for this issue to happen or not and how do I fix this? As that I'm worried it might happen again and I have to go through the steps every time to play.
I'm using Catalina 10.15.7, Macbook air 2017
Thank you
I'm using Catalina 10.15.7, Macbook air 2017
Thank you
xxevanguixx
xxevanguixx wrote:
Hi, I downloaded osu for Catalina along with osu!macOS Agent. Using the troubleshoot, scan, and repair. It worked wonderfully the first time I launched it, updating itself then jumping into osu!. But when I came back to it later in the day, I can't get it to open via the app icon, or the osu!macOS Agent route. I had to delete osu!, redownload, and go through the troubleshooting steps. Then it launched normally once again, updating itself aswell. Is it normal for this issue to happen or not and how do I fix this? As that I'm worried it might happen again and I have to go through the steps every time to play.
I'm using Catalina 10.15.7, Macbook air 2017
Thank you
Firstly, I think you should try out the Rosetta Wineskin since it's much newer. Secondly, could you try updating through osu!macOS Agent (Other > Update). If that fails, could you make a Test Run for when the application doesn't open, and link the contents here (you can use a pastebin like paste.gg)
Test Run steps
- Locate your osu! installation.
- Right click on it, then select Show Package Contents.
- Open Wineskin.
- Click Advanced.
- Click Test Run. If osu! starts successfully (even with glitches), you can then close the program down. Once the program has either closed or crashed, a dialog will pop up asking you whether you want to view Test Run Logs. Click Yes.
- Copy the results of your Test Run logs to a pastebin such as paste.gg set to never expire. Then attach the link in a reply to this thread, along with the report from osu!macOS Agent in Step 1.
Thank you for making this. I have been enjoying myself so far. However, is there a way to fix the constant freezing(it's gotten worse over time)? While playing beatmaps, the red bar at the bottom right of the screen frequently spikes up causing me to freeze up, lag, and miss the circles.
Are there any things I can do to stop this? I've tried messing with the settings but to no avail.
I currently play on macOS BigSur.
Here's the output when troubleshooting
I have also tried Test Running it however the popup to see the logs never appears
Are there any things I can do to stop this? I've tried messing with the settings but to no avail.
I currently play on macOS BigSur.
Here's the output when troubleshooting
Report
Version 11.6 (Build 20G165)
Engine: WS11WineCX64Bit20.0.2
Wineskin 2.9.0.7-rc4
Release: Stable40
Quarantine attribute is absent (bundle)
Quarantine attribute is absent (wrapper)
Execute flag is present
Detect Direct3D is disabled
Compatibility mode is disabled
System Integrity Protection is enabled
Engine version is supported
Razer Synapse is absent
Log file: update.log is absent
No errors in: runtime.log
Engine: WS11WineCX64Bit20.0.2
Wineskin 2.9.0.7-rc4
Release: Stable40
Quarantine attribute is absent (bundle)
Quarantine attribute is absent (wrapper)
Execute flag is present
Detect Direct3D is disabled
Compatibility mode is disabled
System Integrity Protection is enabled
Engine version is supported
Razer Synapse is absent
Log file: update.log is absent
No errors in: runtime.log
I have also tried Test Running it however the popup to see the logs never appears
Here is my test run using the wineskin inside osu's package, along with the troubleshoot scan using osu!macos Agent, the update didn't make any change, and I can not find a working link for the Rosetta Wineskin in this thread. The one posted by Technocoder led me to mega files but it was no longer available to download.
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/55b56cbf9b0d43ce90aa222ad3cf63e1
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/202e2d6e776a43e894ac784becf24e68
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/55b56cbf9b0d43ce90aa222ad3cf63e1
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/202e2d6e776a43e894ac784becf24e68
aidswidjaja wrote:
xxevanguixxxxevanguixx wrote:
Hi, I downloaded osu for Catalina along with osu!macOS Agent. Using the troubleshoot, scan, and repair. It worked wonderfully the first time I launched it, updating itself then jumping into osu!. But when I came back to it later in the day, I can't get it to open via the app icon, or the osu!macOS Agent route. I had to delete osu!, redownload, and go through the troubleshooting steps. Then it launched normally once again, updating itself aswell. Is it normal for this issue to happen or not and how do I fix this? As that I'm worried it might happen again and I have to go through the steps every time to play.
I'm using Catalina 10.15.7, Macbook air 2017
Thank you
Firstly, I think you should try out the Rosetta Wineskin since it's much newer. Secondly, could you try updating through osu!macOS Agent (Other > Update). If that fails, could you make a Test Run for when the application doesn't open, and link the contents here (you can use a pastebin like paste.gg)Test Run stepshttps://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/issues/troubleshooting.html#step-3-generating-a-test-run-through-wineskin
- Locate your osu! installation.
- Right click on it, then select Show Package Contents.
- Open Wineskin.
- Click Advanced.
- Click Test Run. If osu! starts successfully (even with glitches), you can then close the program down. Once the program has either closed or crashed, a dialog will pop up asking you whether you want to view Test Run Logs. Click Yes.
- Copy the results of your Test Run logs to a pastebin such as paste.gg set to never expire. Then attach the link in a reply to this thread, along with the report from osu!macOS Agent in Step 1.
Anyone else has it said the MEGA's file is no longer available?
Neither of the MEGA files work for me, instead I'm greeted by this message on MEGA.
The file you are trying to download is no longer available.
This link is unavailable as the user’s account has been closed for gross violation of MEGA’s Terms of Service.
The file you are trying to download is no longer available.
This link is unavailable as the user’s account has been closed for gross violation of MEGA’s Terms of Service.
The latest wineskin download isn't working. It says the account has been closed for violating MEGA's terms of service.
Topic Starter
Strange, my account was terminated and they have not given me a specific reason. I'll try and get a new download link up as soon as possible.
Update: I have uploaded the Rosetta Wineskin to Google Drive temporarily. The Rosetta Wineskin can be used on ALL macOS versions.
Update: I have uploaded the Rosetta Wineskin to Google Drive temporarily. The Rosetta Wineskin can be used on ALL macOS versions.
help please i cant open the osu application when i trying to open it it says verify then it says osu! app is damage move to trash but even though i run the command on the terminal it says the same.last time i download using the mega link it can but now with the google drive link it cant how to solve this because i want to play osu on mac
What is the code for the intel that you have to enter into terminal i have a copy of the intel one but i need that code
klevinn
klevinn wrote:
Thank you for making this. I have been enjoying myself so far. However, is there a way to fix the constant freezing(it's gotten worse over time)? While playing beatmaps, the red bar at the bottom right of the screen frequently spikes up causing me to freeze up, lag, and miss the circles.
Are there any things I can do to stop this? I've tried messing with the settings but to no avail.
I currently play on macOS BigSur.
Here's the output when troubleshootingReportVersion 11.6 (Build 20G165)
Engine: WS11WineCX64Bit20.0.2
Wineskin 2.9.0.7-rc4
Release: Stable40
Quarantine attribute is absent (bundle)
Quarantine attribute is absent (wrapper)
Execute flag is present
Detect Direct3D is disabled
Compatibility mode is disabled
System Integrity Protection is enabled
Engine version is supported
Razer Synapse is absent
Log file: update.log is absent
No errors in: runtime.log
I have also tried Test Running it however the popup to see the logs never appears
Popups might take a small while after osu! seems to have closed. If they don't appear, kill the osu!, wine-preloader and wineserver processes via Activity Monitor or Force Quit. Don't kill the Wineskin process however.
There's more performance overhead when playing on Mac due to WINE. Assuming that you have reasonable system specs / reasonable amount of HDD space left (for swap), etc. you should try tuning osu! within the in-game performance settings. Performance seems to vary considerably between users so it's hard to narrow it down without knowing your system.
If you believe performance is an issue with the wrapper, could you try downloading a clean wrapper and seeing whether low performance occurs as well on the clean wrapper? If so, then we might need to do more investigation.
You also made a post 4 months ago with a similar issue - community/forums/posts/8169091 - did you change anything between then and now which would have fixed it?
xxevanguixx
xxevanguixx wrote:
Here is my test run using the wineskin inside osu's package, along with the troubleshoot scan using osu!macos Agent, the update didn't make any change, and I can not find a working link for the Rosetta Wineskin in this thread. The one posted by Technocoder led me to mega files but it was no longer available to download.
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/55b56cbf9b0d43ce90aa222ad3cf63e1
https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/202e2d6e776a43e894ac784becf24e68aidswidjaja wrote:
xxevanguixxxxevanguixx wrote:
Hi, I downloaded osu for Catalina along with osu!macOS Agent. Using the troubleshoot, scan, and repair. It worked wonderfully the first time I launched it, updating itself then jumping into osu!. But when I came back to it later in the day, I can't get it to open via the app icon, or the osu!macOS Agent route. I had to delete osu!, redownload, and go through the troubleshooting steps. Then it launched normally once again, updating itself aswell. Is it normal for this issue to happen or not and how do I fix this? As that I'm worried it might happen again and I have to go through the steps every time to play.
I'm using Catalina 10.15.7, Macbook air 2017
Thank you
Firstly, I think you should try out the Rosetta Wineskin since it's much newer. Secondly, could you try updating through osu!macOS Agent (Other > Update). If that fails, could you make a Test Run for when the application doesn't open, and link the contents here (you can use a pastebin like paste.gg)Test Run stepshttps://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/issues/troubleshooting.html#step-3-generating-a-test-run-through-wineskin
- Locate your osu! installation.
- Right click on it, then select Show Package Contents.
- Open Wineskin.
- Click Advanced.
- Click Test Run. If osu! starts successfully (even with glitches), you can then close the program down. Once the program has either closed or crashed, a dialog will pop up asking you whether you want to view Test Run Logs. Click Yes.
- Copy the results of your Test Run logs to a pastebin such as paste.gg set to never expire. Then attach the link in a reply to this thread, along with the report from osu!macOS Agent in Step 1.
Thanks.
Could you try the following steps:
- while running osu!, close all other applications (including Discord)
- run osu! through cmd (follow the steps under Running through Command Prompt - https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/issues/dotnet.html#running-through-command-prompt) and log the output (if any) in a pastebin
- while osu! is running, change affinity to NOT use core #0 (see steps below) (community/forums/posts/8162613)
- update dotnet (follow the steps under Updating dotnet - https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/issues/dotnet.html#updating-dotnet
Change affinity
1. Right click osu! > Show Package Contents
2. Click Wineskin > Advanced > Tools > Task Manager (taskmgr)
3. Find osu!.exe in the list that appears, then set priority and affinity as desired - see https://superuser.com/a/181947 for info on what this actually means
2. Click Wineskin > Advanced > Tools > Task Manager (taskmgr)
3. Find osu!.exe in the list that appears, then set priority and affinity as desired - see https://superuser.com/a/181947 for info on what this actually means
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Queneos
Queneos wrote:
help please i cant open the osu application when i trying to open it it says verify then it says osu! app is damage move to trash but even though i run the command on the terminal it says the same.last time i download using the mega link it can but now with the google drive link it cant how to solve this because i want to play osu on mac
The instructions should be quite straightforward
You can repair through osu!macOS Agent (Troubleshoot > Scan > Repair) or through the following command:sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine "~/path/to/my/osu\!.app"
where ~/path/to/my/osu\!.app is the local filepath to your osu! installation (keep the quotes in the command).
More info: https://osu-mac.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install/silicon.html#step-2-repair-the-wineskin
FrostyVortex
FrostyVortex wrote:
What is the code for the intel that you have to enter into terminal i have a copy of the intel one but i need that code
See above
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On a side note, hopefully the MEGA links get fixed soon :/
The files are very different as to the Youtube tutorial that was recommended to me on the step by step way to get osu to Mac- https://youtu.be/b9RK1z8jXcM
When I was trying to troubleshoot the styles from my guessing because the video is not the same as to what is happening to what I was experiencing, I got this error that says "osu1macOS agent cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified. macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware. move to trash" (idk how to put screenshot lol)
When I was trying to troubleshoot the styles from my guessing because the video is not the same as to what is happening to what I was experiencing, I got this error that says "osu1macOS agent cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified. macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware. move to trash" (idk how to put screenshot lol)