apparently the rc vote concluded at some point and has results on the bn website
pishifat wrote:
i don't have much opinion on this proposal, so i'm gonna run it by all bn/nat members to see what they think. hopefully we'll be able to reach a conclusion in a few days
59 "Agree" votes (62%)
24 "Neutral" votes (25%)
12 "Disagree" votes (13%)
95 BN/NAT members voted out of a current total ~110 (not sure exactly how many as BNs have joined/left since the vote took place)
Would need someone like pishifat to do additional vote breakdowns if needed.
Seeing as the majority is in favor of adding this rule, we should try to work out wording to apply it to rc. Which is the hard part because people can get confused and break stuff if the wording isn't perfect and concise.
I ask people please play devil's advocate and imagine how the following can be loophole'd or stretched or messed with
before it's potentially applied to the live RC. Writing this stuff isn't my biggest strength as I've learned in previous endeavors.
would need to be a guideline due to having exceptions.
Proposal wrote:
If the song is an unofficial cut that is not made that way for a remix or cover, it should include (Cut Ver.) at the end of the current title string. This is to easily distinguish shortened versions of songs from their full length counterparts. Exceptions are if a song is only slightly shortened where musical sections match the original song, or if the cut is (a) full loop(s) from a looping track.
- any cuts of original song that aren't official are cut versions.
- if someone makes a cover and it's a short version of the song. that's considered the original length and doesn't use cut ver tagging.
------ yes people can abuse this to make their own covers to evade the rule. dunno how to close that loophole if that's even possible.
- if the cut is so slight that musical sections still match and length is generally the same, it wouldn't get the tag.
- wording for looped song exception feels clunky but idk how to word it better right now
could potentially also use (Short Ver.) instead of (Cut Ver.) so there's fewer different tags running around. However I can't imagine how to merge it with the current short ver. tag rule as one is for officially labelled cuts and this is for unofficial unlabelled cuts. Determining which track length is the original between short/extended versions, especially from rhythm games, can often be ambiguous due to the age or obscurity of the information: hard to find, need to use web archive to check websites, etc.