in dubio pro reo
This TouchScreenPro guy must be laughing his ass off while reading your post, no offense, but it's really obvious that he is a multi or a cheater, and both of them mean ban, there shouldn't be any doubt. Plus all his top scores are hidden/flashlight, really but it's sad to think some people can still believe this guy is legit, guess we shouldn't ban this guy who got top 1 at Made of Fire neither, since there won't be any conclusive evidence, maybe he is just a genius or it is just that it isn't one guy, but four playing with a same touchscreen (that's how he got he's score at the TAG4 map he ranked!1!). Really, please, seeing a guy with 400 plays getting all top scores with FL+Hidden, with TOUCHSCREENPRO as a nickname must mean instant ban, I can't believe someone is actually wasting time specting him and looking for evidence, it's so obvious it's depressing.Sinistro wrote:
He's telling the truth. I haven't seen any conclusive evidence of him being a cheater or a multi accounter so far, although initally I was far more suspicious.
Damn you can't give the man any credit.Wishy22 wrote:
This TouchScreenPro guy must be laughing his ass off while reading your post, no offense, but it's really obvious that he is a multi or a cheater, and both of them mean ban, there shouldn't be any doubt. Plus all his top scores are hidden/flashlight, really but it's sad to think some people can still believe this guy is legit, guess we shouldn't ban this guy who got top 1 at Made of Fire neither, since there won't be any conclusive evidence, maybe he is just a genius or it is just that it isn't one guy, but four playing with a same touchscreen (that's how he got he's score at the TAG4 map he ranked!1!). Really, please, seeing a guy with 400 plays getting all top scores with FL+Hidden, with TOUCHSCREENPRO as a nickname must mean instant ban, I can't believe someone is actually wasting time specting him and looking for evidence, it's so obvious it's depressing.Sinistro wrote:
He's telling the truth. I haven't seen any conclusive evidence of him being a cheater or a multi accounter so far, although initally I was far more suspicious.
Streams, to me anyway, are actually pretty easy on a Touch Screen Laptop, I just tap with all four of my fingers so...Glass wrote:
Playing on a touch screen doesn't make it any easier to FC maps on FL+HD, in fact it's even harder because you have to memorize the spots instead of sightreading certain parts since you can't move your cursor without risking to accidentally hit a note.
also, gl doing streams on a touchscreen pc
sorry but i dont see any of your rank 1 with fl+hd after 1 day of playing with itthebesthingever wrote:
Streams, to me anyway, are actually pretty easy on a Touch Screen Laptop, I just tap with all four of my fingers so...Glass wrote:
Playing on a touch screen doesn't make it any easier to FC maps on FL+HD, in fact it's even harder because you have to memorize the spots instead of sightreading certain parts since you can't move your cursor without risking to accidentally hit a note.
also, gl doing streams on a touchscreen pc
With the general unfamiliarity and infrequent use of FL, along with the existence of players like Bikko, people are more inclined to think "I can't do it myself, but there must be a genius out there who can!" which means they become unable to put things into perspective or think about things reasonably. It's the same reason why you show a noob Made of Fire and U.N. Owen Was Her, and he won't understand which one is harder without relying on a ranking chart. Even though the answer is obvious, to him both maps are just "too hard" and that's it.Sinistro wrote:
He's telling the truth. I haven't seen any conclusive evidence of him being a cheater or a multi accounter so far, although initally I was far more suspicious.
naptime wrote:
With the general unfamiliarity and infrequent use of FL, along with the existence of players like Bikko, people are more inclined to think "I can't do it myself, but there must be a genius out there who can!" which means they become unable to put things into perspective or think about things reasonably. It's the same reason why you show a noob Made of Fire and U.N. Owen Was Her, and he won't understand which one is harder without relying on a ranking chart. Even though the answer is obvious, to him both maps are just "too hard" and that's it.Sinistro wrote:
He's telling the truth. I haven't seen any conclusive evidence of him being a cheater or a multi accounter so far, although initally I was far more suspicious.
Essentially I am saying that Sinistro is an idiot. Not as bad as thebesthingever, nobody is that bad, but bad enough for most of us to facepalm and think "So THIS is why nothing is being done about those other blatant as fuck cheaters". I'm sure you are intelligent when it comes to everything else, but this is obviously not your expertise and even worse, you are too friendly for your own good.
People have already brought up reasons why obvious cheater is obvious, and I'll add a few more:
"Interests: azuraer's #1s" How many people know who azuraer is on their first day? How many people GUN for pro players on their first day?
Based off of my time zone, on 2/5
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/53182 1:04am
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43710 1:36am
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33610 3:11am
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37343 3:44am
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/83804 4:44am
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48075 7:00am
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57403 8:02am
Meaning if we choose a random map around this difficulty, in 1-2 hours he should FC or get pretty close. I've been spectated for twice as long for far less impressive records. I'm sure most of us are willing to watch this guy the whole way for anything fishy. This is SO EASY to test, SO EASY to confirm. All we need is an admin to persuade the guy to comply, and yet he probably won't, and most likely because of that faultyass !multi command.
<3naptime wrote:
Essentially I am saying that Sinistro is an idiot. Not as bad as thebesthingever, nobody is that bad, but bad enough for most of us to facepalm and think "So THIS is why nothing is being done about those other blatant as fuck cheaters".
As I said, he can't know what he knows after a few days of playing.Lunah wrote:
and DJMax and Jubeat surely help you, but don't make you read flashlight better
How the fuck do you tap with FOUR fingers when even the largest circle size allows barely 2 fingers? Also, that guy doesn't play like he's on a touchscreen, his cursor would be teleporting around if he was, go ask Bikko since he plays on a touchscreen.thebesthingever wrote:
Streams, to me anyway, are actually pretty easy on a Touch Screen Laptop, I just tap with all four of my fingers so...Glass wrote:
Playing on a touch screen doesn't make it any easier to FC maps on FL+HD, in fact it's even harder because you have to memorize the spots instead of sightreading certain parts since you can't move your cursor without risking to accidentally hit a note.
also, gl doing streams on a touchscreen pc
Wishy22 wrote:
like it's more likely that you can run through a wall because of quantum tunneling but still possible.
DJMAX Technika uses almost exactly the same skills as osu when you play on a touch screen. In fact, I could legitimately make a technika map in osu, especially if I got rid of approach circles and did a proper storyboard, though the storyboard would be very difficult to accomplish.Glass wrote:
PS: osu! and DJMax are different games albeit they're the same genre, in DJMax all you have to do is watch the notes fall and press whatever key it corresponds to, while in osu! you have to watch the approach circles AND have good movements with your mouse to be able to pull off things FL+HD. I could be good at DJMax and shit at osu! if I'm only dexterous with my keyboard.
"b..b..but the guy could just be so pro in the game!" And I've been surprised before.Glass wrote:
No matter how the hell you put it, getting FL+HD records on Insane maps in the first 3 days of playing this game can't possibly be legit, it's either macroing or multiaccount. Probably both.
The guy should be banned first, then if he wants to post a video to get his account back, let him do it, he should stay banned 'till he does.ziin wrote:
Etc
He could post a video before he gets banned too, that would work, but the possibility that someone is legit shouldn't factor into time it takes to ban him.Wishy22 wrote:
The guy should be banned first, then if he wants to post a video to get his account back, let him do it, he should stay banned 'till he does.
I was talking about the bemani style series, not technika; I know that's a bit similar.ziin wrote:
DJMAX Technika uses almost exactly the same skills as osu when you play on a touch screen. In fact, I could legitimately make a technika map in osu, especially if I got rid of approach circles and did a proper storyboard, though the storyboard would be very difficult to accomplish.Glass wrote:
PS: osu! and DJMax are different games albeit they're the same genre, in DJMax all you have to do is watch the notes fall and press whatever key it corresponds to, while in osu! you have to watch the approach circles AND have good movements with your mouse to be able to pull off things FL+HD. I could be good at DJMax and shit at osu! if I'm only dexterous with my keyboard.
Nope. Just another multi.ziin wrote:
"b..b..but the guy could just be so pro in the game!" And I've been surprised before.Glass wrote:
No matter how the hell you put it, getting FL+HD records on Insane maps in the first 3 days of playing this game can't possibly be legit, it's either macroing or multiaccount. Probably both.
Nope. Just another multi.ziin wrote:
and april is probably a person who just has no life. That's what 3500 plays in a month will do to you.
3500 plays a month isn't really a lot, it's just about 120 plays a day, which is pretty much nothing if you try to get some high ranks, since you get one play count per miss basically, sometimes you just get 200 play counts in 2 hours or less, 3500 a month isn't really a lot if you are an active player, I'd say it's average.ziin wrote:
He could post a video before he gets banned too, that would work, but the possibility that someone is legit shouldn't factor into time it takes to ban him.
and april is probably a person who just has no life. That's what 3500 plays in a month will do to you.
Probably TouchScreenPro's multi given the mod he uses.ebacho wrote:
Another multi: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/685632
Joined yesterday and has rank 1 FL replays.
That program works well really. lolcheukhin1985 wrote:
WHO. THE. FXCK. IS. THIS.
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/cookiezifan
Pastry - Goblin Girl [Lunatic] DT #1
GUMI - PANDA HERO [Insane] HD+DT #1
The playstyle is very strange and he is definitely a cheater.
Look at his spinner spinning, the cursor moves like a rectangle
Plus, there are no tracks when he moves the cursor.
Unlike Bikko, although Bikko plays with a touchscreen, there are still tracks when he moves his cursor.
DAMN YOU FXCKIN' CHEATERS