1. 01:16:309 (1,2) - It'd be nice if you could show that this instrument is more powerful. I'm not really getting that notion since it has low spacing to (2). Maybe stack on (2) slidertail?
2. 03:52:755 - You could probably indicate the vocalist taking in her breath, since the transition between these parts seem pretty fast.
   I stacked (6) sliderhead on 03:53:462 (2) btw. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8213017
3. 04:15:962 (2,1) - i mentioned this before, but i don't think it was noticed. this uses the same spacing as the 1/2 jump {04:15:679 (1,2)}. i think it would be more clear to indicate this 1/4 jump through lower spacing since there's a 1/2 jump right before, maybe by stacking (1) on 04:15:113 (1) slidertail?
4. 04:46:670 (6,7,8,9,10) - structure looks kind of random imo. if you realigned (9) like this, you would get a more organized pair of triangles
5. 05:04:925 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1) - ₵ Ɽ Ɇ ₳ ₮ ł V ł ₮Ɏ

squirrelpascals wrote:

• 03:13:698 (4,5,1) - This change in spacing is very uncomfortable to play in general and

• 03:19:076 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 03:21:340 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - don't really understand many of your mapping choices here. how do your changes in spacing relate to the music? 1324

• 03:20:774 (1,1,1,1) - Don't see how these notes stand out in anyway for them to be special enough for 1/16 sliders and ncs. Again it doesn't really feel like this correlates to anything toms

• [Gift]

1. 00:25:931 (2) - Looks like the head of this slider should have Normal Sampleset to match the clap.
2. 00:27:629 (1) - 00:28:620 (5) - 00:30:176 (3) - 00:30:743 (5,7) - Remove the whistles from their slider bodies? Tbh looks like they were placed by mistake cause you don't add them after 00:31:592 -
3. 01:03:290 (1,2,3,4) - Any particular reason on why the diff spike here? If compared with 00:54:233 (1,2,3,4) - it's clearly to see that is way harder on 2nd half on that kiai.
4. Change 01:26:780 - & 01:27:346 - to S:C1? Those random whistles sounds are just weird and doen't really match with the current hitsounding.
5. Why the pattern change 03:20:774 (1,1,1,1) - here but not 03:25:302 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - here while both are pretty similar while having this drum smash pattern?
6. 04:08:604 (6,1) - missing hitsounds on these?
7. 04:11:717 (2,3,1) - What are you exactly following here? Specifically 04:11:858 (3) - this doesn't look to be following vocals nor instrument at all. Would suggest to do something else over here.
   
   [Thinking Fam Collab Insane]
8. 00:25:931 - same as other diff.
9. 00:32:158 (1) - missing hitsound?
10. 01:26:780 - 01:27:346 - similar to other diff, change those green lines to S:C1.
11. 02:58:698 (1) - Why you stand out this specific slider with a triangle just here? I'd honestly reserve this shape for the last part.
12. 04:25:019 - add drum sampleset on tail & 04:25:160 - add clap head? Or just add some hitsounds lol
13. 04:32:943 - 04:33:085 - similar ^
14. 04:41:151 - 04:50:208 - missing clap?
15. 04:42:283 (8) - Add NC to match 04:51:340 (1) - this?

iYiyo wrote:

• [Gift]

1. 00:25:931 (2) - Looks like the head of this slider should have Normal Sampleset to match the clap. fixed
2. 00:27:629 (1) - 00:28:620 (5) - 00:30:176 (3) - 00:30:743 (5,7) - Remove the whistles from their slider bodies? Tbh looks like they were placed by mistake cause you don't add them after 00:31:592 - yeah fixed
3. 01:03:290 (1,2,3,4) - Any particular reason on why the diff spike here? If compared with 00:54:233 (1,2,3,4) - it's clearly to see that is way harder on 2nd half on that kiai. i think val did it on purpose, comparing to 00:54:233 (1,2,3,4) - , the beat here isnt as huge as 01:03:290 (1,2,3,4) - so yeah, this should be fine imo
4. Change 01:26:780 - & 01:27:346 - to S:C1? Those random whistles sounds are just weird and doen't really match with the current hitsounding. fixed
5. Why the pattern change 03:20:774 (1,1,1,1) - here but not 03:25:302 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - here while both are pretty similar while having this drum smash pattern? handsome wanted some pattern variation i think which is creative imo. 03:20:774 (1,1,1,1) - also this one has a drum sound on it so its completely fine imo
6. 04:08:604 (6,1) - missing hitsounds on these?
7. 04:11:717 (2,3,1) - What are you exactly following here? Specifically 04:11:858 (3) - this doesn't look to be following vocals nor instrument at all. Would suggest to do something else over here fixed for sing
   
   [Thinking Fam Collab Insane]
8. 00:25:931 - same as other diff.
9. 00:32:158 (1) - missing hitsound?
10. 01:26:780 - 01:27:346 - similar to other diff, change those green lines to S:C1.
11. 02:58:698 (1) - Why you stand out this specific slider with a triangle just here? I'd honestly reserve this shape for the last part.
12. 04:25:019 - add drum sampleset on tail & 04:25:160 - add clap head? Or just add some hitsounds lol
13. 04:32:943 - 04:33:085 - similar ^
14. 04:41:151 - 04:50:208 - missing clap?
15. 04:42:283 (8) - Add NC to match 04:51:340 (1) - this? fixed all

also make sure everyone who's collabing is on tags.

iYiyo wrote:

This is nice.

iYiyo wrote:

Both diffs:
From 00:31:592 - to 00:35:695 - looks like you're not using claps which feels kinda empty in terms of hitsounds. Please add some.

Fam:
04:32:943 - 04:33:085 - please remove the whistle on both cause it's causing a hitsound which you don't use on the kiai at all.

Nevo wrote:

Let's consider Tianna Bartoletta's gold medal jump in the Women's Long Jump during the Rio Olympics of 2016.

Hobbes2 wrote:

top diff -

I don't really know if this is worth a dq, but 04:05:632 (2) - has a storyboarded hitsound there but there's a circle with the hitsound, so it ends up playing the hitsound really loud, or worse, it'll play the hitsound twice if the player hits the circle off time.

edit, while im here,

04:12:142 - im not sure if the hitsound is a mistake, but you can actually just hitsound the sliderhead instead of putting the whisle in the storyboard. that said, it actually just sounds weird so i think its a mistake anyway.

pkhg wrote:

its full of sbd sounds lol theyre rly misleading cuz youre not hitting anything and the slider doesnt have a tick. since rc states that ticksounds are discouraged from being used i guess this is "worst" or something

that thing is supposed to be used on mania

also just by playing the intro you can notice how early the bpm is. it kinda normalizes from 00:36:544 (8) - until kiai where it matches the song accurately but everything else before that timestamp is very early

just look at this players acc meter, i experienced the same when i played it


i think thats not the only section with a wrong offset it seems


a more in depth look through timing would be nice

the storyboarded hitsound were intended to fill out the blank sounds (aka the unhitsounded sound)

-Mo- wrote:

To me it's pretty concerning if 03:53:038 this section can get away with not having SB hitsounds while 01:44:610 - 00:45:743 these sections are similar and for some reason need the SB hitsounds.

I understand some variation between the sections due it being a collab diff, but I don't feel like SB hitsounds are an appropriate solution.

Kuron-kun wrote:

Additionally to what everyone posted:

[Gift]
The spread inside the difficulty itself is really inconsistent. The beginning and, specially, the first Kiai, barely plays like something above 4,5* whereas in the other kiais you have huge jumps, huge SVs (for example: 01:52:676 (3,1,2,1,2,1) - 02:01:592 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ) that compared to the first one you have lower SV and lower jumps (for example: 00:54:233 (1,2,3,4) - ). It happens throughout the entire difficulty but it's really noticeable in the beginning.

I know this is a huge collab and such but It's not really an excuse to make things inconsistent in terms of difficulty spike. Everyone has their style but that doesn't mean they can make something really easy and then someone else makes something extremely hard for the same section.

I can't really think about anything else other than rework most of the patterns in a way that intensity feels as equal as possible between the mentioned parts. Definitely increasing the SV is a nice idea and you have a lot of spots like 00:50:554 (2,3,4) - 00:52:252 (3,4,5) - 01:06:120 (1,2,3,4) - to buff a little with some circle jumps, instead of low SV sliders.
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If something felt questionable, feel free mention it.

pkhg wrote:

isnt players hitting notes consitently late/early enough proof of a wrong timing?



also i didnt based it only that replay. most if not all players were doing the same in the same parts and it indeed feels off

pkhg wrote:

still too early for me

Haruto wrote:

for you. im pretty sure the offset is correct now. try asking others as well whether it is still late or not. cuz i've asked some people again after the offset change and they said its fine now.

pkhg wrote:

Haruto wrote:

for you. im pretty sure the offset is correct now. try asking others as well whether it is still late or not. cuz i've asked some people again after the offset change and they said its fine now.

you were also pretty sure that previous offset was correct :woke:

iMey wrote:

time +20ms
sider tick rate -
disgusted pattern

Not fun at all.

Monstrata wrote:

probably over 100 retries but i finally passed it

iYiyo wrote:

Submitted on May 21



Ranked on June 12

Monstrata wrote:

probably over 100 retries but i finally passed it