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Boring_old
I've found that a combination of HyperCam+Xvid to record, and VirtualDub to edit, works fairly well. however, I haven't tried it with osu! specifically yet; Xvid may be a bit fickle, so you may have to turn a setting or two down. if that is the case, downloading the CamStudio Lossless Codec (poor man's xvid) may also boost performance.
Jeffro
I wouldn't use Hypercam IMO, you will loose quality or it will not keep up with the frames.

And xvid is compressor but its better to first use the lossless codec in your case then and then use virtualdub with the right codecs to get out a nice image :)

lossless codec has NOTHING to do with xvid because lossless is nill compression :)
Boring_old
I have had very good quality with HyperCam. I was fed up with Fraps because it doesn't work in as many situations as HyperCam, so I did some tinkering with a HyperCam+Xvid combo and it looks just as good. uploading as -lossy a video as possible is certainly what YouTube wants you to do but it seems near pointless

Xvid is better than CamStudio's mess, assuredly. CamStudio's codec is for computers that can't do high-level Xvid options well
IppE

boring wrote:

Xvid is better than CamStudio's mess
And then there's h.264 which is even better then XviD :)

And when x264 (or MeGUI if you don't want to mess with command lines) is free there is no excuse to use XviD.

And the final size isn't too horrible either, a 2 minute 720p video could easily go to ~12Mb if you compress it right.
(Mine end up at around 60Mb though since I use ~4096kbps bitrate for some reason...)
Boring_old
you mean DivX, not XviD

yes, the backwards spelling was intentional, "copyleft of DivX" lol

actually XviD has support for H.263, which while certainly isn't H.264, was at one point excellent for YouTube

edit: oh hey MeGUI takes XviD
IppE

boring wrote:

you mean DivX, not XviD

yes, the backwards spelling was intentional, "copyleft of DivX" lol

actually XviD has support for H.263, which while certainly isn't H.264, was at one point excellent for YouTube

edit: oh hey MeGUI takes XviD
I did mean XviD. It's great for smaller videos but I wouldn't really used it with HD stuff tbh.
DivX is quite the poo and is rarely used nowadays afaik (only seen it as a streaming codec)

And MeGUI has support for Snow, x264 and XviD
Boring_old
oh, I'm sorry, it's just when I saw this...

IppE602 wrote:

And when x264 (or MeGUI if you don't want to mess with command lines) is free there is no excuse to use XviD.
...I thought you were referring to how DivX was not free, thus pointless when there are free alternatives, etc
Emile
About the Fraps+Sony Vegas method.
I recorded a 1:40 video of me playing a beatmap.
When I finished rendering with the settings on the first page, it was a 236mb file.
Anyone know how to lower the size so it would be easier for Youtube to upload?
thepianist
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Jeffro
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
MegaManEXE
I've been having a ton of random slowdown issues with my Fraps lately.

I can't seem to record anything now without the framerate dropping to like 6-8 fps at some points and screwing up the video.

At first I thought it was just that there were too many circles on the screen (I was recording streamy videos) but I did a video of JtB in the past and it went flawlessly on the first try so I don't think that's the problem.

I've tried closing everything else I have running, turning off all the graphical bonus things in osu, reducing resolution, and limiting framerate even below 30 to see if that solves anything but still nothing.

Maybe I just have to wait til I get a new computer that can handle it better. :/
heintsi
For sound recording, make sure there's some recording volume, for me it was turned to zero by default. but do not turn the knob to max cause it very possibly causes distortion in sound and that sounds horrible. also stereo mix can be found on your sound driver manager. For me it's realtek and it really likes to make this distortion sound if recording is too high. Also i have to have sound settings on fraps on "Use Windows input".
Tadashi Hamada
I only have the free version of fraps. Is this only for people who have the full version? D;
Starrodkirby86
You should still be able to record videos through this method, but I think you'll just have a time limitation in recording and an ugly watermark (I think?). I don't know, I don't use Fraps. XD
Jeffro
You can also do the same recording with xfire and still use my virtualdub tutorial. :) (or just get the full version of fraps, it isn't hard to get.)
Jinxy
So what exactly is a good filesize for youtube, or what are the sizes of your videos after you guys are done with everything?
Topic Starter
Remco32
IIRC, I mostly ended up w/ mpegs less than 400MB or so.
I'm pretty sure you can get that filesize lower with a different container, but I have a hi-speed internet connection, so I don't bother.
Jeffro

Remco32 wrote:

IIRC, I mostly ended up w/ mpegs less than 400MB or so.
I'm pretty sure you can get that filesize lower with a different container, but I have a hi-speed internet connection, so I don't bother.
What he said, I get about the same size :) sometimes around 100mb if I'm lucky, it depends on the beat map and stuff.
Rokodo
Meh, I use x264 encoding to get the filesize down to around 20mb, since I don't have a high speed connection.
rad140
Very nice tutorial. I was wondering how to do this, and then stumbled upon this, so thanks!

Quick question: Let's say your computer can't handle both a full-size recording and 60 fps through FRAPS without stuttering and lag in the video.
Which option would sacrifice less quality: half-size with 60 fps or full-size w/ 30 fps?

Thanks.
Jeffro

rad140 wrote:

Very nice tutorial. I was wondering how to do this, and then stumbled upon this, so thanks!

Quick question: Let's say your computer can't handle both a full-size recording and 60 fps through FRAPS without stuttering and lag in the video.
Which option would sacrifice less quality: half-size with 60 fps or full-size w/ 30 fps?

Thanks.
Fullsize 30 fps.
Niva
Very useful, but the sound won't show up >:(
Any hints? My sound manager is Realtek HD Audio Manager.

EDIT: After months I finally know how to do it, unmute the audio recording.
Jinxy
Because I don't have Fraps nor Sony Vegas, I made a video in Xfire. However, the music desyncs after a minute of recording. Why? Are my settings wrong somewhere?

I'm recording with 30fps, Half Size of 1280x960 = 640x480.

Audio: Vista Audio, Vista Audio Mixer.
Jeffro

JInxyjem wrote:

Because I don't have Fraps nor Sony Vegas, I made a video in Xfire. However, the music desyncs after a minute of recording. Why? Are my settings wrong somewhere?

I'm recording with 30fps, Half Size of 1280x960 = 640x480.

Audio: Vista Audio, Vista Audio Mixer.
Sorry, but its because xfire always desyncs, or most of the time anyway.
Natteke
Easier way:

Run fraps, record the video.

Download VirtualDubMod
Open it, drag the video into the VirtualDubMod window.
Go to Video -> Compression -> Choose "XVid MPEG4 Codec", then press 'Configure', set Target Quantizer to about '6.81', press OK.

Go to File -> Save As..., name your video yourvideoname.avi and save it.



Also Codecs



why did I write this, it was already in a thread. I need to use search = =
Jeffro

Natteke desu wrote:

Easier way:

Run fraps, record the video.

Download VirtualDubMod
Open it, drag the video into the VirtualDubMod window.
Go to Video -> Compression -> Choose "XVid MPEG4 Codec", then press 'Configure', set Target Quantizer to about '6.81', press OK.

Go to File -> Save As..., name your video yourvideoname.avi and save it.



Also Codecs



why did I write this, it was already in a thread. I need to use search = =
hehehehe :P
IppE
x264 with crf around 20, 1280x720, 30fps. Rather good quality/size ratio imo.
XviD lacks some of the more advanced macroblocking features that really help with compressing stuff like osu videos.



Also protip if you want to cheat youtube with 1080p videos:
Record it at 1600x900, resize to 1920x1080, nobody will see the difference when its uploaded.

Then again the quality difference between 720p and 1080p is pretty minimal on youtube so why bother.
Powerdrone
I dl Fraps, but it only makes 30 second videos... I'm assuming it's because it's a trial version. -_-

Any free screen capture programs?
Glass
Thanks for this guide

and yeah this should be pinned :?
Gens
Oh yeah I'll do it now that I can
Topic Starter
Remco32

Gens wrote:

Oh yeah I'll do it now that I can
Thanks for the sticky :D
Jeffro

Remco32 wrote:

Gens wrote:

Oh yeah I'll do it now that I can
Thanks for the sticky :D
Thank you as well :D
Querencia
umm . im stuck at the part where you open osu! with fraps running . you said there should be a yellow number at the top right corner of osu! which you had already provided a screenshot . but for some reason my osu doesnt have a yellow or red number at the top right corner . and im using the free version which doesnt require money . i basically downloaded it . can anyone fix my problem for me pls ._.
Querencia
and i just found out that my fraps can only record for 30 seconds .
Zeugziumy
Fraps is win... :D
Querencia
can anyone help me ? my fraps can show the fps at the top right corner of osu! now . but it can only record 30seconds and lagging when i review the 30second replay .
OzzyOzrock

NeetOtakuHikikomori wrote:

can anyone help me ? my fraps can show the fps at the top right corner of osu! now . but it can only record 30seconds and lagging when i review the 30second replay .
You can choose whether or not the numbers appear on the corner in FRAPS. Go to FPS, and in the box that says 'Overlay Corner' you can choose which corner to have it in, or turn it off. That could be off. The thirty seconds thing is because you have the trial version. Either find/steal a registration key, or pirate it, hah.

Also, I'm not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread, but Sony Vegas can NOT read audio from .avi files. Or well... at least 8 can't. Not so sure about nine.
Jeffro

OzzyOzrock wrote:

NeetOtakuHikikomori wrote:

can anyone help me ? my fraps can show the fps at the top right corner of osu! now . but it can only record 30seconds and lagging when i review the 30second replay .
You can choose whether or not the numbers appear on the corner in FRAPS. Go to FPS, and in the box that says 'Overlay Corner' you can choose which corner to have it in, or turn it off. That could be off. The thirty seconds thing is because you have the trial version. Either find/steal a registration key, or pirate it, hah.

Also, I'm not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread, but Sony Vegas can NOT read audio from .avi files. Or well... at least 8 can't. Not so sure about nine.
It can, it just depends on the audio codec used, Anyway, Virtualdub FTW~ And Sony Vegas for professional editing :)
IppE

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Also, I'm not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread, but Sony Vegas can NOT read audio from .avi files. Or well... at least 8 can't. Not so sure about nine.
Vegas Pro 9.0c sure can.

At least from the fraps raw videos (where audio is 1536kbps LCPM)

As a more compressed format I either use Vorbis (aoTuV b5d) or MPEG-4 AAC (Nero)
OzzyOzrock
Maybe I'm just stupid and had it really soft...
noneed_old
same thing here.. only 30 sec vids.. =.=
what version can record more than 30 secs?
Topic Starter
Remco32

noneed wrote:

same thing here.. only 30 sec vids.. =.=
what version can record more than 30 secs?
Buy/pirate the app, ffs.
IppE

Remco32 wrote:

noneed wrote:

same thing here.. only 30 sec vids.. =.=
what version can record more than 30 secs?
Buy/pirate the app, ffs.
Quoted for truth

Also, if someone is feeling randy and willing to explore the exciting world of commandline apps:

x264 now has some built in audio encoding features!

Patched builds by JEEB:
http://x264.fushizen.eu/

Only needs the .exe and Quicktime to be installed (cause aac > others)
Create a .bat file to the directory where the x264.exe is with this line:
x264 --preset veryslow --level 41 --crf 20 --colormatrix bt709 --force-cfr --acodec qtaac --aquality 54 --asamplerate 44100 --acodec-quality 2  --output "PAT TO OUTPUTFILE.mp4" "PATH TO INPUT VIDEO.avi"
The one I used last for example, looks like this:


Now double click the .bat and this window will pop up (first it'll index the input video, though)
After a while (depending on cpu power) you'll have a nice video ready for uploading.

By changing the preset (available ones are ultrafast, veryfast, faster, fast, medium, slow, slower, veryslow and placebo) you can affect the speed of the encode (slower the preset, smaller the file) and by changing the value of crf you can affect the quality of the video, thus affect filesize (0 being best quality, lossless mode, 51 being worst quality. Sane range is 16-24)

Watch this video and/or PM me if you have questions/issues/difficulties/downs/bad case of loneliness, I'd hate to totally hijack this thread ;)
Jinxy
I used FRAPS and Virtualdub, from viewtopic.php?p=252802#p252802
and got this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aTaktjvzwI

Its 960x720, instead of 1280x720. Is there any large effect since I don't have a 720p option, or am I missing out something?

Oh never mind, it didn't appear because the video wasn't fully processed yet.
UtsukimiJerry
Here's another quick tip when recording.

Reduce the effects sounds because it will make the sound well...sounds bad. Reduce it to half will do
_lan_

Remco32 wrote:

Want to use Virtualdub instead of Sony Vegas? Click here!

Needed
  1. Fraps
  2. Sony Vegas (Never ever use Windows Moviemaker, it will lower the quality of the video drastically!)


Now, go make videos and spread osu!

I tried using Windows Movie Maker to convert the video but I don't think the quality was that bad.

My Video using Windows Movie Maker:

yhz1346792
wow!thanks very much
Wishy
I got everything fine, except for the fact that when I try to look at the video recorded by Fraps using MPC, the volume is really low and it sounds like trash, I got Realtek drivers.

Well no audio now, Stereo Mix isn't muted, etc.
UtsukimiJerry

Wishy22 wrote:

I got everything fine, except for the fact that when I try to look at the video recorded by Fraps using MPC, the volume is really low and it sounds like trash, I got Realtek drivers.

Well no audio now, Stereo Mix isn't muted, etc.
Make sure your speaker volume isn't low as well. I noticed that if your speaker volume is low, then the volume of the recording will be low as well.
Wishy
Didn't work. :<
pete2528
like this xD


and 3nd view


:D
ychao
Hi a quick question: I've saved a replay in half-time but I want to record and play it in normal speed.

Is there a way to play this replay in normal speed on osu so that I can record it?
Gens
Nope, but you could record the video in half-time and then speed it up! But that's kind of cheating.
ychao
Yeah well, I thought of that but I'd rather speed it up on osu then record it... my vegas tends to give problems when increasing video playback speed :S

Thanks for the reply though - much appreciated!
Daru
So, after many annoying attempts at trying to record osu! and failing, I tried to find the root of the problem.

Turns out that my aux hard drive (5400RPM) was not fast enough to write the frames that FRAPS was recording, resulting in a stuttering framerate. Once I switch to my faster 7200RPM drive, everything ran like butter.

I thought I'd share this in case anyone is encountering a similar problem.
IppE

Daru wrote:

Turns out that my aux hard drive (5400RPM) was not fast enough to write the frames that FRAPS was recording, resulting in a stuttering framerate. Once I switch to my faster 7200RPM drive, everything ran like butter.
I have a 5400rpm drive (WD Scorpio) and 720p29.97 works all fine. Of course 1080p/60fps will lag.
ychao
Yeah I've a 7200rpm WD HD as well but I was recording in 1080p (who doesn't like full hd vids especially when the effects on osu are so nice?)... so it figures :roll:

Ah well I'll try 720p then...
Rithela
Hmmm I can't get FRAPS to sync up right. It'll record everything just fine.....except the sound is out of sync with the video. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks for any help in advance ^^
IppE
What kind of settings are you recording with?
Rithela
I haven't messed with the settings. ._.
All I've changed is capture key button.
IppE
Yeah but for example, what resolution? Framerate? Hard drive speed for output? Are you actually able to run osu! and record it without lag?
Rithela
No I get lag when I record. With FRAPS just open (yellow FPS meter at top) then it runs just fine. I'll mess with the settings and see if that helps. Thanks! ^^
IppE
If you experience lag only when recording its either your computer not able to run the game while recording or the output drive not being able to handle the 100-200Mbps write speeds.
Polymelia
Thank you~! :)
Piotrekol
I'm trying to make PiP(picture in picture) but it won't work.
In video preview(before rendering) all looks ok.
But after rendering i'm getting something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrE0yXLXz8

IppE602 wrote:

Is this what you are after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFqDNqbd-mU ?
(I just used the same clip as the other video too cause I don't have much material at dads laptop...)
If so, avisynth works mighty fine.

clip1=FFmpegSource2("osu flying high.mp4")
clip2=FFmpegSource2("osu flying high.mp4").Spline64Resize(384,226)
Audio=FFAudioSource("osu flying highosu flying high.mp4")
Overlay(clip1, clip2, x=464, y=160, mode="blend", opacity=1.0)
video=last
AudioDub(video, audio)
Trim(768,2048)
FadeIO2(30, color=$000000)
I need to sync those videos.
I re-converted the video that was causing problems in VirtualDub and now it's rendering in pip in vegas.
Seems that vegas doesn't want to work well with vid compressing format of my cam o.o
//edit
rendered and now all is good :3
IppE

Piotrekol wrote:

I'm trying to make PiP(picture in picture) but it won't work.
In video preview(before rendering) all looks ok.
But after rendering i'm getting something like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrE0yXLXz8
Is this what you are after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFqDNqbd-mU ?
(I just used the same clip as the other video too cause I don't have much material at dads laptop...)
If so, avisynth works mighty fine.

clip1=FFmpegSource2("osu flying high.mp4")
clip2=FFmpegSource2("osu flying high.mp4").Spline64Resize(384,226)
Audio=FFAudioSource("osu flying highosu flying high.mp4")
Overlay(clip1, clip2, x=464, y=160, mode="blend", opacity=1.0)
video=last
AudioDub(video, audio)
Trim(768,2048)
FadeIO2(30, color=$000000)
go3001
I use Camtesia Studio 7... It records sound no problem, but you have to have Osu in screen mode coz it doesn't record DirectX :/
theProdigy_old
Hi, i want to frap at 1080p is there anything extra i should know?
IppE

theProdigy wrote:

Hi, i want to frap at 1080p is there anything extra i should know?
Make sure your output drive can handle it and that you compress it in a sane way.
theProdigy_old
i am using a preset lets see the results.

one question, is it better to render with gpu? i have cpu i7 2600k/gpu sapp 6950/hhd w.d caviar black 1tb

and wich format should i use if i want it to have 32bpc

here is the video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdjuAR1U5RE
IppE

theProdigy wrote:

one question, is it better to render with gpu? i have cpu i7 2600k/gpu sapp 6950/hhd w.d caviar black 1tb
I assume you mean encoding the video with a gpu encoder or some other hardware accelerated solution.

If you're ok with the quality/filesizes it outputs, sure. GPU encoding solutions are hardly the most efficient ones though, mind you.
RinaChanx
anyone got a link to a free FULL version of fraps? D:
Topic Starter
Remco32

RinaChanx wrote:

anyone got a link to a free FULL version of fraps? D:
No.
billy96

RinaChanx wrote:

anyone got a link to a free FULL version of fraps? D:
Yes
DJ Angel
Wait, i can do that without lagging :|
BlazingFX
lol, chose HD 1080p for template, turned out to be 20.4 gb. wut

edit, 720 made it 639 mb.
Piotrekol

BlazingFX wrote:

lol, chose HD 1080p for template, turned out to be 20.4 gb. wut

edit, 720 made it 639 mb.
You need to render it sir. to make ~100mb file from 6gb :D
IppE

Piotrekol wrote:

You need to render it sir. to make ~100mb file from 6gb :D
*encode, rendering is what vegas etc. does to apply effects to the video.

:3c
Reunilu
Does it also work with Bandicam too? It's the only thing I have to record with.
Topic Starter
Remco32

SSShaymin wrote:

Does it also work with Bandicam too? It's the only thing I have to record with.
If it records your screen, sure.
smartypants
Ummm This version of fraps is really old... and this version of sony vegas is the newest one O.o you sure your alright? if you want the new version of fraps... get in here


*use google or ask the poster at your own risk*

XDD Don't worry its not virused
Wumbo
Thanks a lot for this thread.
koentie
What settings should I take? Because I have the next problem: When I record things like "Black Rebel - Kagamine Rin" on insane it will become very slow, like, you see when I click and stuff, but it's so unclear, it looks like it's too fast for recording...
IppE

koentie wrote:

What settings should I take? Because I have the next problem: When I record things like "Black Rebel - Kagamine Rin" on insane it will become very slow, like, you see when I click and stuff, but it's so unclear, it looks like it's too fast for recording...
Settings for what? Recording or encoding? Be more specific please.
Pyrre
ah nice, i will try this :) i was using xfire and it worked really well actually.. but for some strange reason it adds some strange delay in the sounds on my recordings, and i dont have a clue why. I have tryed to reinstall it and it wont work anyway. but i will try with fraps insted ;)
Pyrre
hum .. my fraps adds deley in the music aswell <.< and it only records a few secounds :/ .. have never used fraps, idk how to either D: maybe will find out something after testing alittle xD..
Copter-kun
*coughtorrentcough*
Pyrre
oh fuck fraps, im going home! .. no but guys .. TRY WITH XFIRE FIRST!!! much much much much easyer then this crap, did i mention much? well anyway, why is this only recording in like 15 secs? <.< might it be cus i have free version? well what ever ima try find a free good program for recording
Copter-kun
Read my post Pyrre
Pyrre
yeah got fraps registrated now :P, im trying to get right settings, though i still think xfire is much easyer if you want something to just install and works ;D but im trying to get this to work ;)
Pyrre
and this is how it all went ;D

Copter-kun

Pyrre wrote:

and this is how it all went ;D

Fixed link
Pyrre

Copter-kun wrote:

Pyrre wrote:

and this is how it all went ;D

Fixed link
ty XD idk what the problem was =.=
Winshley

Pyrre wrote:

ty XD idk what the problem was =.=
You should just include the code only for the video.
This is NOT correct
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSDlTiRGtXg[/youtube]
This is correct
[youtube]vSDlTiRGtXg[/youtube]

Sorry for off-topicness. /me poofs
Haseo_old
Don't kill me but I think Bandicam is better than Fraps.
Topic Starter
Remco32

Winshley wrote:

Pyrre wrote:

ty XD idk what the problem was =.=
You should just include the code only for the video.
This is NOT correct
{youtube}http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSDlTiRGtXg{/youtube}
This is correct
{youtube}vSDlTiRGtXg{/youtube}

Sorry for off-topicness. /me poofs
{ }, seriously..?

Haseo wrote:

Don't kill me but I think Bandicam is better than Fraps.
You are entitled to your opinion.
koentie

IppE602 wrote:

koentie wrote:

What settings should I take? Because I have the next problem: When I record things like "Black Rebel - Kagamine Rin" on insane it will become very slow, like, you see when I click and stuff, but it's so unclear, it looks like it's too fast for recording...
Settings for what? Recording or encoding? Be more specific please.
Excuse me! I'll be more specific! ;)
I have problems with recording, my osu slows down like hell and looks like I suck like hell.
I'll show you a link from a youtube recording from me a while ago.. did it twice and never did it again.



And this is a fairly good recording... They are even worse now, with faster songs. Oo
Topic Starter
Remco32
What are your specs?
koentie

Remco32 wrote:

What are your specs?
I'm not sure.. I don't know a lot about laptops/computers in general, but I found this:
http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2010/Acer/Aspire/Aspire5742z/Aspire5742zsp2.shtml

I hope this helps. :)
Thanks in advance!
IppE

koentie wrote:

I'm not sure.. I don't know a lot about laptops/computers in general, but I found this:
http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2010/Acer/Aspire/Aspire5742z/Aspire5742zsp2.shtml

I hope this helps. :)
Thanks in advance!
Yeah thats not going to run osu! and Fraps together smooth enough to do proper recordings, pentium + intel gpu doesn't just cut it.
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