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Yohgi_old
the video i made with fraps is like 4 gb...y is it so big? D: it take forever to render...
MegaManEXE

Yohgi wrote:

the video i made with fraps is like 4 gb...y is it so big? D: it take forever to render...
Fraps doesn't have time to compress the video as it records so the resulting file is always big, that's why you have to use some other program instead to compress it before you upload it to Youtube.
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Remco32

Yohgi wrote:

the video i made with fraps is like 4 gb...y is it so big? D: it take forever to render...
If I record a long map, I'll mostly end up with like 10GB of videofiles (recording in high-res). It's normal.
Hanyuu
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Lybydose
I used the same rendering settings you did in the post and uhhhhhh 605 MB file. What. I am not uploading this.
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Remco32

Lybydose wrote:

I used the same rendering settings you did in the post and uhhhhhh 605 MB file. What. I am not uploading this.
You're surprised HD takes up more space or something?
Lybydose
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Hanyuu
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IppE

Samurai_X wrote:

Any recommendation for PC specs for this? My laptop runs Vista Ultimate on a 2.2GHz AMD dual-core with 4GB RAM and Radeon 3200 graphics, but I still lag horribly while recording, even when I make sure useless stuff isn't running in the background and osu!'s on the lowest settings, blahblah, all that stuff. :|
Its highly cpu depending seeing as I got the same except for AMD Turion X2 Ultra @ 2.4GHz and recording at 1024x576 stays at the 60fps most of the time.
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Jeffro
Alternatively you could use Virtualdub with x264vfw to encode your video's HD quality. However I do stress the need for your videos to be at least 720p (1280x720)

These are my settings:

So you download Virtualdub (Freeware) Download

Then get x264vfw (Free codec) Download and install it.

Set up Fraps like this:


Set up osu! something like this if you can:


You might wonder why I use 1280x800. This is because it comes as close to 720p as osu! gives you the option to render :)

Then go ahead and record a replay of yourself of even when spectating someone :D

Extract Virtualdub to somewhere and open it.

Open the avi Fraps made in Virtualdub (File->Open Video File)


If your video is that long so that Fraps generated multiple files you can just go to File->Append AVI segment so it will put the videos behind eachother :)

Ok first problem. Youtube loves videos the most when its fedded in 720p but we just recorded using 1280x800. This is where a little editing comes in handy.

Go to Filters (Video->Filters or CTRL-F)
And from there click on Add and search for the resize filter.


And then from there we can setup the settings for resizing to 720p correctly.


Here I choose for a Letterbox/Crop. I choose this options because you will always maintain your aspect ratio and the quality will not go down. All we'll be doing is cutting off some of the screen which is irrelevant.

Then its time to setup the codec we'll be using for encoding the video to a youtube acceptable format.
Go to Video->Compression and search for the x264vfw codec you installed.


In this screen you can see some of the settings you can make as where the ratefactor should be noted as one of the most important settings in here. This ratio will be make or break your video's quality and try to regulate the filesize as well.
I use 25 myself because I found out this has been working rather well. But if anyone has better settings that will make the videos even more better on Youtube, don't hestitate to tell me.

Also make sure the Virtualdub Hack is checked.

Now we have the basic settings to make a good video.

If you are smart I recommend saving the preset you just made or just lazily download my processing settings here

You can accomplish this task by going to File->Save Processing Settings, (Load for loading them ;) )

Then you could eventually cut out some material you don't want or add some text in virtualdub itself. I refer to the helpfile/FAQ's from Virtualdub itself for that.

Well then you can just go to File->Save as AVI, Choose a spot and save :)
You should see the status of the movie you're rendering.


After you are done you can upload the file to Youtube and after it's been processed it will show up and get the HD version a little while later.

And thats how you do it with Virtualdub and x264vfw :)

I am rendering the file used in this tutorial as we speak and will be editing this post to link to the video to show you guys the quality :)

Have fun! :D Jeffro

Edit: Here is the video aka the result:
IppE

Jeffro wrote:

You might wonder why I use 1280x800. This is because it comes as close to 720p as osu! gives you the option to render :)
1. Open osu!.current user name here.cfg (its in the same folder as osu!.exe)
2. Edit line Height = 800 to Height = 720
3. Open osu!
4. ??????
5. PROFIT!

Peppy should add a 720p resolution preset too tho seeing as there is the 1920x1080 one too...
aTunaChu
Why can I only record 30 seconds? :(
Layola_old
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Jeffro

IppE602 wrote:

Jeffro wrote:

You might wonder why I use 1280x800. This is because it comes as close to 720p as osu! gives you the option to render :)
1. Open osu!.current user name here.cfg (its in the same folder as osu!.exe)
2. Edit line Height = 800 to Height = 720
3. Open osu!
4. ??????
5. PROFIT!

Peppy should add a 720p resolution preset too tho seeing as there is the 1920x1080 one too...
Lol! I forgot all about that :D ty xD
Boring_old
I've found that a combination of HyperCam+Xvid to record, and VirtualDub to edit, works fairly well. however, I haven't tried it with osu! specifically yet; Xvid may be a bit fickle, so you may have to turn a setting or two down. if that is the case, downloading the CamStudio Lossless Codec (poor man's xvid) may also boost performance.
Jeffro
I wouldn't use Hypercam IMO, you will loose quality or it will not keep up with the frames.

And xvid is compressor but its better to first use the lossless codec in your case then and then use virtualdub with the right codecs to get out a nice image :)

lossless codec has NOTHING to do with xvid because lossless is nill compression :)
Boring_old
I have had very good quality with HyperCam. I was fed up with Fraps because it doesn't work in as many situations as HyperCam, so I did some tinkering with a HyperCam+Xvid combo and it looks just as good. uploading as -lossy a video as possible is certainly what YouTube wants you to do but it seems near pointless

Xvid is better than CamStudio's mess, assuredly. CamStudio's codec is for computers that can't do high-level Xvid options well
IppE

boring wrote:

Xvid is better than CamStudio's mess
And then there's h.264 which is even better then XviD :)

And when x264 (or MeGUI if you don't want to mess with command lines) is free there is no excuse to use XviD.

And the final size isn't too horrible either, a 2 minute 720p video could easily go to ~12Mb if you compress it right.
(Mine end up at around 60Mb though since I use ~4096kbps bitrate for some reason...)
Boring_old
you mean DivX, not XviD

yes, the backwards spelling was intentional, "copyleft of DivX" lol

actually XviD has support for H.263, which while certainly isn't H.264, was at one point excellent for YouTube

edit: oh hey MeGUI takes XviD
IppE

boring wrote:

you mean DivX, not XviD

yes, the backwards spelling was intentional, "copyleft of DivX" lol

actually XviD has support for H.263, which while certainly isn't H.264, was at one point excellent for YouTube

edit: oh hey MeGUI takes XviD
I did mean XviD. It's great for smaller videos but I wouldn't really used it with HD stuff tbh.
DivX is quite the poo and is rarely used nowadays afaik (only seen it as a streaming codec)

And MeGUI has support for Snow, x264 and XviD
Boring_old
oh, I'm sorry, it's just when I saw this...

IppE602 wrote:

And when x264 (or MeGUI if you don't want to mess with command lines) is free there is no excuse to use XviD.
...I thought you were referring to how DivX was not free, thus pointless when there are free alternatives, etc
Emile
About the Fraps+Sony Vegas method.
I recorded a 1:40 video of me playing a beatmap.
When I finished rendering with the settings on the first page, it was a 236mb file.
Anyone know how to lower the size so it would be easier for Youtube to upload?
thepianist
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Jeffro
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MegaManEXE
I've been having a ton of random slowdown issues with my Fraps lately.

I can't seem to record anything now without the framerate dropping to like 6-8 fps at some points and screwing up the video.

At first I thought it was just that there were too many circles on the screen (I was recording streamy videos) but I did a video of JtB in the past and it went flawlessly on the first try so I don't think that's the problem.

I've tried closing everything else I have running, turning off all the graphical bonus things in osu, reducing resolution, and limiting framerate even below 30 to see if that solves anything but still nothing.

Maybe I just have to wait til I get a new computer that can handle it better. :/
heintsi
For sound recording, make sure there's some recording volume, for me it was turned to zero by default. but do not turn the knob to max cause it very possibly causes distortion in sound and that sounds horrible. also stereo mix can be found on your sound driver manager. For me it's realtek and it really likes to make this distortion sound if recording is too high. Also i have to have sound settings on fraps on "Use Windows input".
Tadashi Hamada
I only have the free version of fraps. Is this only for people who have the full version? D;
Starrodkirby86
You should still be able to record videos through this method, but I think you'll just have a time limitation in recording and an ugly watermark (I think?). I don't know, I don't use Fraps. XD
Jeffro
You can also do the same recording with xfire and still use my virtualdub tutorial. :) (or just get the full version of fraps, it isn't hard to get.)
Jinxy
So what exactly is a good filesize for youtube, or what are the sizes of your videos after you guys are done with everything?
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Remco32
IIRC, I mostly ended up w/ mpegs less than 400MB or so.
I'm pretty sure you can get that filesize lower with a different container, but I have a hi-speed internet connection, so I don't bother.
Jeffro

Remco32 wrote:

IIRC, I mostly ended up w/ mpegs less than 400MB or so.
I'm pretty sure you can get that filesize lower with a different container, but I have a hi-speed internet connection, so I don't bother.
What he said, I get about the same size :) sometimes around 100mb if I'm lucky, it depends on the beat map and stuff.
Rokodo
Meh, I use x264 encoding to get the filesize down to around 20mb, since I don't have a high speed connection.
rad140
Very nice tutorial. I was wondering how to do this, and then stumbled upon this, so thanks!

Quick question: Let's say your computer can't handle both a full-size recording and 60 fps through FRAPS without stuttering and lag in the video.
Which option would sacrifice less quality: half-size with 60 fps or full-size w/ 30 fps?

Thanks.
Jeffro

rad140 wrote:

Very nice tutorial. I was wondering how to do this, and then stumbled upon this, so thanks!

Quick question: Let's say your computer can't handle both a full-size recording and 60 fps through FRAPS without stuttering and lag in the video.
Which option would sacrifice less quality: half-size with 60 fps or full-size w/ 30 fps?

Thanks.
Fullsize 30 fps.
Niva
Very useful, but the sound won't show up >:(
Any hints? My sound manager is Realtek HD Audio Manager.

EDIT: After months I finally know how to do it, unmute the audio recording.
Jinxy
Because I don't have Fraps nor Sony Vegas, I made a video in Xfire. However, the music desyncs after a minute of recording. Why? Are my settings wrong somewhere?

I'm recording with 30fps, Half Size of 1280x960 = 640x480.

Audio: Vista Audio, Vista Audio Mixer.
Jeffro

JInxyjem wrote:

Because I don't have Fraps nor Sony Vegas, I made a video in Xfire. However, the music desyncs after a minute of recording. Why? Are my settings wrong somewhere?

I'm recording with 30fps, Half Size of 1280x960 = 640x480.

Audio: Vista Audio, Vista Audio Mixer.
Sorry, but its because xfire always desyncs, or most of the time anyway.
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