Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Taiko] · forum

Julie

Joined March 2013

Julie 2017-11-24T23:39:25+00:00

Sorry took me a while but finally done modding every diff, really a solid mapset

!! The song is stuck in my head now haha~ Hope to see it rank soon \o/

You probably want to put it in Pending as well, since is in "Works In Progress/Help" Section.

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-11-25T13:49:50+00:00

Julie wrote:
Sorry took me a while but finally done modding every diff, really a solid mapset !! The song is stuck in my head now haha~ Hope to see it rank soon \o/

You probably want to put it in Pending as well, since is in "Works In Progress/Help" Section.

Kantan&Futsuu all fixed update!
Thanks modding Julie san~(*ˊ˘ˋ*)

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2017-12-22T16:40:14+00:00

A SUPER DELAYED M4M here:

[General]

> Metadata check: http://rask-soft.com/product/first/event/C91/

18+ content in the official page ffs, my mom was not standing next to me at that moment wew or I am so fking done

> 00:21:351 - remove this ineffective green timing point.

> 00:22:140 - Unify the uses of Finishers for the strong sound effect?

[Kantan]

> 00:16:140 - remove this kat to simplify the density spread. This sudden 1/2 dkk is a bit awkward.

> 00:43:456 - you really want to follow that little piano sound instead of the main melody at 00:43:298 - lol?

> 00:47:087 - same as above, same rationale

> 01:08:877 - / 01:12:666 - just saying, they missed the Finisher intentionally. That's okay for Kantan.

> 01:18:982 - / 01:21:508 - add notes to fill in the large gaps which feel unnatural

[Futsuu]

> 00:14:561 - a plausible Finisher is missing. imo that's fine in Futsuu

> 00:18:982 - shift it 1/2 backwards to fit the music directly. The nnn nn in 1/2 pattern should be tolerated. The current pattern is weird.

> 00:31:298 - adding a kat here to imitate the pattern at 00:30:035 - , to form an expected strucutre.

> 00:42:982 - same as 00:18:982 -

> 00:45:351 - same rationale and application as well, this time you can directly add a note on the timing, if you accept 3 consecutive 1/2 doublets.

^ 00:48:351 - / 00:50:877 - if you adopt the above changes, you may figure that the mapping channel after 00:47:403 - is quite confusing. The two mentioned timing points here can be followed by a note with the vocal layer easily, not sure why'd you like to put some notes on the on-beats. i.e. shift 00:48:666 - / 00:51:193 - 1/1 backwards to fit the vocal part .

> 01:01:930 - move it to 01:02:245 - for a better vocal flow.

> 01:08:877 - / 01:12:666 - same as Kantan's mod

[Muzukashii]

> 00:15:666 - Muzukashii onwards, this note could be d for a better flow. The piano melody ends on this point temporately and a distinct change/ cut should therefore be displayed before 00:15:982 -

> 00:17:719 - shift it to 00:17:877 - for a better flow

> 00:38:877 - d sounds better here

> 00:40:456 - change it to k to clarify the don usage at 00:39:824 - / 00:40:772 - (for vocal) ** you may check the same phrase at Futsuu as well, in Futsuu this is 00:39:824 - d d kk <-- it is acceptable due to a simple colour flow. If you want to change the same phrase in Futsuu, feel free to do so.

> 00:42:666 - / 00:45:193 - sincerely think that empty space fit the overall note flow much more.

> 00:47:245 - you can put a d to finish the whole melody, that won't hurt much

^ 00:49:456 - same as above, this one is kat

> 00:54:035 - k sounds smoother

> 01:06:982 - united K should be shown

> 01:11:877 - this extra ornamental note is too much of it. The progression is further presented later.

> 01:15:982 - d k instead of k d

> 01:29:719 - k k d? consistent with Inner Oni

[Inner Oni]

! Shouldn't the name be 'Inner:OnI' ( ==> 'Re:TrymenT')? match the upper and lower cases

> 00:06:824 - unnecessary don confuses the simple melody, remove it

> 00:46:930 - d for a better flow

^ 00:52:140 - kat for the high-pitch vocal

> 01:12:035 - imo the density could be a bit higher comparing with 01:09:824 - , how about ddkkd?

> 01:15:193 (138) - let's try this:

01:15:666 - special instrument is worthy for an isolation highlight.
01:16:298 - should be a new start instead of a linked phrase due to the little cymbal crash

> 01:17:719 - even though k is inconsistent, it is beneficial to the stream. kkddd ending is out of a sudden

> 01:22:772 - k d d k sounds too heavy for the freestyle mapping, k _ d k would be better for a down-stepping density spread.

[Chaica's Oni]

EDIT: ~~(yuzu you will be responsible for answering the mods on his diff. since he is banned )~~

EDIT: When did he come back? Did he get released from peppy's prison????

> 00:08:561 - remove this soft piano note because it does not fall on the dominant melody

> 00:15:193 - shift it 1/2 forward to match the melody, the current one sounds too off. (00:15:508 - could be considered be deleted if you apply the change for simplifying the mapping channel further)

> 00:17:403 - d k for pitch flow, same as 00:18:666 -

! 00:24:666 - the following 3 phrases are way too heavy comparing the first one from 00:22:140 - to 00:24:351 - . Do some nerfs there please.

> 00:31:140 - remove it for a clearer cut

> 00:40:298 - contradictively, a don could be add to make the 1/1 spam less dough.

> 00:41:087 - either remove it or shift it to 00:41:245 - , too off for enforcefully putting it on the on-beat

> 00:47:245 - d K sounds much smoother

> 00:56:166 - adding a kat to form a mirror pattern with 00:56:403 - seems perfect

> 01:14:087 - remove it, same as 01:12:824 -

> 01:16:930 - how about kkdkd k k D? for a better flow and fit Chaica's main theme 'kat domminant'

> 01:22:930 - same as Inner Oni

> 01:25:456 - same rationale as above, remove it

[]

Sorry for being SUPER LATE, dont tear me apart ;w;

Call me back when things are ready.

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-12-23T02:50:46+00:00

Skylish wrote:
A SUPER DELAYED M4M here:

[General]

> Metadata check: http://rask-soft.com/product/first/event/C91/

18+ content in the official page ffs, my mom was not standing next to me at that moment wew or I am so fking done
www

> 00:21:351 - remove this ineffective green timing point.
ok

> 00:22:140 - Unify the uses of Finishers for the strong sound effect?
Although it is strong, it is a part of a gentle tune so keep

[Kantan]

> 00:16:140 - remove this kat to simplify the density spread. This sudden 1/2 dkk is a bit awkward.
ok

> 00:43:456 - you really want to follow that little piano sound instead of the main melody at 00:43:298 - lol?
ok

> 00:47:087 - same as above, same rationale
ok

> 01:08:877 - / 01:12:666 - just saying, they missed the Finisher intentionally. That's okay for Kantan.
It is intentional

> 01:18:982 - / 01:21:508 - add notes to fill in the large gaps which feel unnatural
Because the previous pattern is difficult, I am taking a very big break. I think that it is not unnatural.

[Futsuu]

> 00:14:561 - a plausible Finisher is missing. imo that's fine in Futsuu
ok

> 00:18:982 - shift it 1/2 backwards to fit the music directly. The nnn nn in 1/2 pattern should be tolerated. The current pattern is weird.
ok

> 00:31:298 - adding a kat here to imitate the pattern at 00:30:035 - , to form an expected strucutre.
ok

> 00:42:982 - same as 00:18:982 -
ok

> 00:45:351 - same rationale and application as well, this time you can directly add a note on the timing, if you accept 3 consecutive 1/2 doublets.
move

^ 00:48:351 - / 00:50:877 - if you adopt the above changes, you may figure that the mapping channel after 00:47:403 - is quite confusing. The two mentioned timing points here can be followed by a note with the vocal layer easily, not sure why'd you like to put some notes on the on-beats. i.e. shift 00:48:666 - / 00:51:193 - 1/1 backwards to fit the vocal part .
good

> 01:01:930 - move it to 01:02:245 - for a better vocal flow.
ok

> 01:08:877 - / 01:12:666 - same as Kantan's mod
ok

[Muzukashii]

> 00:15:666 - Muzukashii onwards, this note could be d for a better flow. The piano melody ends on this point temporately and a distinct change/ cut should therefore be displayed before 00:15:982 -
ok

> 00:17:719 - shift it to 00:17:877 - for a better flow
ok

> 00:38:877 - d sounds better here
ok

> 00:40:456 - change it to k to clarify the don usage at 00:39:824 - / 00:40:772 - (for vocal) ** you may check the same phrase at Futsuu as well, in Futsuu this is 00:39:824 - d d kk <-- it is acceptable due to a simple colour flow. If you want to change the same phrase in Futsuu, feel free to do so.
good

> 00:42:666 - / 00:45:193 - sincerely think that empty space fit the overall note flow much more.
nice flow

> 00:47:245 - you can put a d to finish the whole melody, that won't hurt much
ok

^ 00:49:456 - same as above, this one is kat
ok

> 00:54:035 - k sounds smoother
ok

> 01:06:982 - united K should be shown
ok

> 01:11:877 - this extra ornamental note is too much of it. The progression is further presented later.
deleted

> 01:15:982 - d k instead of k d
If it is vocal it will be its color scheme, but if you pick up the sound behind it I think that this is fine.

> 01:29:719 - k k d? consistent with Inner Oni
ok, k k d

[Inner Oni]

! Shouldn't the name be 'Inner:OnI' ( ==> 'Re:TrymenT')? match the upper and lower cases

> 00:06:824 - unnecessary don confuses the simple melody, remove it
Not already

> 00:46:930 - d for a better flow
ok

^ 00:52:140 - kat for the high-pitch vocal
ok

> 01:12:035 - imo the density could be a bit higher comparing with 01:09:824 - , how about ddkkd?
ok

> 01:15:193 (138) - let's try this:

01:15:666 - special instrument is worthy for an isolation highlight.
01:16:298 - should be a new start instead of a linked phrase due to the little cymbal crash

ok! nice pattern~ :3

> 01:17:719 - even though k is inconsistent, it is beneficial to the stream. kkddd ending is out of a sudden
change k

> 01:22:772 - k d d k sounds too heavy for the freestyle mapping, k _ d k would be better for a down-stepping density spread.
ok

[]

Sorry for being SUPER LATE, dont tear me apart ;w;

Call me back when things are ready.

Thanks Skylishsan (｡◕ˇдˇ◕｡)/
waiting chaica's Oni.

Renka

858 posts

Joined May 2014

Renka 2017-12-24T17:13:37+00:00

Skylish wrote:
A SUPER DELAYED M4M here:

[General]

> Metadata check: http://rask-soft.com/product/first/event/C91/

18+ content in the official page ffs, my mom was not standing next to me at that moment wew or I am so fking done

> 00:21:351 - remove this ineffective green timing point.

> 00:22:140 - Unify the uses of Finishers for the strong sound effect?

[Chaica's Oni]

EDIT: ~~(yuzu you will be responsible for answering the mods on his diff. since he is banned )~~

EDIT: When did he come back? Did he get released from peppy's prison???? - im back.long time no see.

> 00:08:561 - remove this soft piano note because it does not fall on the dominant melody - ok.

> 00:15:193 - shift it 1/2 forward to match the melody, the current one sounds too off. (00:15:508 - could be considered be deleted if you apply the change for simplifying the mapping channel further) - ok.

> 00:17:403 - d k for pitch flow, same as 00:18:666 - no change.Because patterning with symmetry arrangement with 00:16:930 (55,56) - .

! 00:24:666 - the following 3 phrases are way too heavy comparing the first one from 00:22:140 - to 00:24:351 - . Do some nerfs there please. - delete some notes.

> 00:31:140 - remove it for a clearer cut - ok

> 00:40:298 - contradictively, a don could be add to make the 1/1 spam less dough. - add d.

> 00:41:087 - either remove it or shift it to 00:41:245 - , too off for enforcefully putting it on the on-beat - no change,Because I do not feel that need.

> 00:47:245 - d K sounds much smoother - ok.

> 00:56:166 - adding a kat to form a mirror pattern with 00:56:403 - seems perfect - ok

> 01:14:087 - remove it, same as 01:12:824 - ok

> 01:16:930 - how about kkdkd k k D? for a better flow and fit Chaica's main theme 'kat domminant' - ok.

> 01:22:930 - same as Inner Oni - ok

> 01:25:456 - same rationale as above, remove it - ok.and change to 01:25:772 (401) - k.

Sorry for being SUPER LATE, dont tear me apart ;w;

Call me back when things are ready.

thank you for modding!
I am happy to see you again.
I look forward to working with you.

ﾒﾘｰｸﾘｽﾏｽ

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yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2017-12-25T00:52:22+00:00

chaica has revived.

update!

Skylish

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Skylish 2017-12-26T13:36:46+00:00

A bug goes wrong in chaica's Oni:

When I completely re-dled the mapset, chaica's Oni is okay with 'Latest pending version'.

After I went into Editor playing the music,without saving or changing anything, the status of chaica's Oni changed to 'Update to latest version'.

When I clicked 'Update...'. the whole 'chaica's Oni.osu' became BLANK. There is no content in his difficulty. I don't know why....

This problem will be reset when I go back to the front welcome page of osu client.

> Please try fixing it by:

Completely remove chaica's Oni from the folder, and re-add it from p/6418037.

Then remember to save it in the format of .osu (in notepad) to avoid any possible bugs in the osu client Editor.

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2017-12-26T16:32:13+00:00

I added again, but the state did not change...

Skylish

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Skylish 2017-12-26T17:04:06+00:00

I reported to 'Help' forum p/6420982

Hope it could be helpful in solving it. I've never seen this scenario so far. :worried:

Skylish

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Skylish 2017-12-29T14:02:35+00:00

Re-checklish:

! p/6424400 here is a notice from Gabe. The bug is already noticed I guess and it should not interfere the ranking process, so I would just ignore the bug temperately now.

[Kantan]

> 01:17:719 (1,2,3) - the density spread is not okay comparing to other difficulties, even though I know you want to make them be a huge gap. Refer to my previous mod. (Density like 01:24:035 (4,5,6,7,8) - is fine, and should be followed at 01:17:719 (1,2,3) - <-- this part)

> SV=1.4x

[Futsuu]

> 01:21:824 - how about adding a kat to balance the n n n pattern at 01:18:982 - ?

> SV=1.4x

[]

Bug wa maji yabakure.

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2018-01-01T06:54:06+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Re-checklish:

! p/6424400 here is a notice from Gabe. The bug is already noticed I guess and it should not interfere the ranking process, so I would just ignore the bug temperately now.

[Kantan]

> 01:17:719 (1,2,3) - the density spread is not okay comparing to other difficulties, even though I know you want to make them be a huge gap. Refer to my previous mod. (Density like 01:24:035 (4,5,6,7,8) - is fine, and should be followed at 01:17:719 (1,2,3) - <-- this part)
add note,

> SV=1.4x

[Futsuu]

> 01:21:824 - how about adding a kat to balance the n n n pattern at 01:18:982 - ?
add note!

> SV=1.4x

i'm lowering the SV to make it easier for beginners.

[]

Bug wa maji yabakure.

Thanks ><
bag wa maji yabai

Skylish

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Skylish 2018-01-05T16:46:57+00:00

Bu:BbleD~!

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2018-01-05T16:53:30+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Bu:BbleD~!

Thanks Sky:LisH~ ></

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2018-01-07T07:16:55+00:00

SV change for Muzu (jonawaga suggestion)

delete green line 00:41:877 - 00:42:035 - ,
add green line 00:41:245 - 0.80x

edit: Since it is not an unrank element, reb is unnecessary.

Surono

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Surono 2018-01-11T09:47:50+00:00

15:30 Surono: pianos eee
15:38 Surono: 00:16:298 - delete this since the density in here is similar with oni and far with futsuu w, as minibreak
15:39 Surono: 00:41:245 - move this greenline to 00:41:087 - here, sv change would be significant to see
15:39 Surono: 01:17:719 - give finisher for muzukashii, futsuu, and kantan
16:40 Surono: tes

good bg , i forget uncheck block msg. pls give kudos hh

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2018-01-11T10:07:16+00:00

Surono wrote:
15:30 Surono: pianos eee
15:38 Surono: 00:16:298 - delete this since the density in here is similar with oni and far with futsuu w, as minibreak
15:39 Surono: 00:41:245 - move this greenline to 00:41:087 - here, sv change would be significant to see
15:39 Surono: 01:17:719 - give finisher for muzukashii, futsuu, and kantan
16:40 Surono: tes
good bg , i forget uncheck block msg. pls give kudos hh

All fixed!
Updata_(:3」∠)_

Surono

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Surono 2018-01-11T10:20:51+00:00

PatZar ccd

(¦3[__hai chaica owu_]

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2018-01-11T10:22:33+00:00

Surono wrote:
PatZar ccd

(¦3[__hai chaica owu_]

thanks Sweet Surono ~

Thanks all modders!

crim

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crim 2018-01-11T12:31:44+00:00

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yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2018-01-11T16:09:16+00:00

Sanawieck wrote:
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Gemu-

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Gemu- 2018-01-12T02:10:31+00:00

Congrats Yuzu-San! ^///^

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2018-01-12T06:10:13+00:00