"hardest kantan" -stefan
thanksInvective wrote:
M4M, sorry for delay university work is keeping me busy. No need to feel sorry, I am by my own late af.
d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue notemodGeneral
3/2 breaks op for SR rofl
Increase HP settings? Did that in the last mod.
Futsuu
00:09:101 (26) - Still unsure about the necessity of a slider here. Maybe just have a note at 00:09:540 where the sound changes. It replaces the stream pattern from the Oni pretty well.
01:14:662 (230) - Another slider. ^
01:19:638 (247) - Delete? For consistency with the beginning, as well as keeping the 1/2 patterns short because this is a decently high bpm for players of this level. Okidoki.
On its own its a fun diff but idk spread is trippy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you probably have a better idea of how to fix it than I do I blame the song, that's my solution.
Muzukashii
00:11:150 (45) - Change to D? I'd say make all of these notes which end each of these small segments as a D EXCEPT for the ones which land on this sound at 00:13:492 (59) which would be K, so it differentiates between the lower and higher pitched sounds. Chnaged.
00:13:931 (61) - Change to k? Matches the pitch of the sounds and is consistent with Oni. Yup.
00:27:979 (124,125) - I get the point of changing it from k d to d k (when comparing to the previous one at 00:27:979 (124,125) - ) given the additional drumroll but I still think it fits better as k d due to the sound you're actually following (aka not the drumroll). Plus, consistency with Oni. Okay.
00:33:979 - Missing d here? I'm going off how you did it at 00:31:638 (136). That's fine, I rather want to hold a short break here.
00:59:443 - Missing d again? Had one at 00:57:101 (239). Everything's fine here.
Oni
00:10:711 (68,69,70,71,72) - Idk about kkdkk here, with k on higher pitch and lower pitch kkkdk would probably be correct since the first and third notes have the same pitch but that's ugly so maybe kkddk? And this can be applied to all occurrences. I think kkddk can work here too, changed it.
01:02:223 (410) - Change to d? Nothing to suggest a k here, the pitch of vocal is the same as 01:01:492 (406) - which is a d too. (406) works different that (410) since (406) emphasize the background music much more with D than with K, no change here.
Hope it helps
YOU HAVE NO PROOFSAyyri wrote:
"hardest kantan" -stefan
Because I decided to let someone good map it, that's the reason.Skylish wrote:
lol stefan you opt to let another mapper to make a Kantan for you
Wise choice!
I really thought about your request but I deny it because I want to focus fully on my content. Sorry.juankristal wrote:
Can I make a 4K Mania set for this? :O
thkAyyri wrote:
[General]aight.
- Metadata seems fine.
- Widescreen support can be disabled.
[Futsuu]I think the doubles in this difficulty are a nice and simplified why to follow a good amount of the rhythms in this song. Good job!
- 00:06:174 - This note would sound better moved back to 00:06:028 - to follow the same type of sound that 00:05:296 - is following. Okay.
- Going along with the above suggestion, 00:07:345 - would sound better if moved back to 00:07:199 - . Done and removed note on 00:07:492 -
- Also, with the top two suggestions, I think that adding a note at 00:08:370 - would be beneficial to preserve the consistency of the doubles beforehand. (Preferably d.) Done, added as k tho.
- 00:23:882 - Could be changed to k to better follows the kicks, but it depends if you want to keep the d dD type of pattern here to be different from the k kD that was at 00:21:540 - (But you followed something similar to what I suggested at 00:28:565 - so that's why this point is questionable.) I guess kD might be easier to follow since dD could be too fast to actually catch the D note. changed.
- 00:37:345 - Like the above, changing this to k would show a change in pitch between the patterns that occured before this one, and this one. ~(´・ω ・`)~
- 00:42:760 - Using a finisher here is a bit debatable since it's during a rather calm section, and all it is emphasizing is the kick in the background. But tbh I'd keep it for consistency reasons. (Just thought I'd mention this.) Thinking more about it makes me actually want to remove it but uh, idk. If you say I should keep it then I don't mind.
- 00:49:492 - I'd suggest changing this to d so it's not a monotone k k k k K pattern here, also the differences in pitch. It somewhat makes the section a bit harder than needed but I trust you in this case.
- 01:13:492 - You could add a k, just so the pattern matches the vocal a bit better based on the note you have at 01:13:931 - but if you don't want a 4 note pattern, don't do it. a~d~d~e~d
- 01:14:662 - I would suggest either removing this slider or shortening it. Since the sound it should be following starts at 01:15:101 - . If removed, add a k at 01:15:101 - and 01:15:248 - (But it depends on how you want to follow the sound here. ;w; ) Starting the slider on 01:15:101 - would mean it'd become a 1/1 slider which feels very weird after. I started the slider from now on at 01:14:809 - (due vocals). I hope this is fine.
[Muzukashii]Relatively easy difficulty, matches well with the Futsuu imo.
- 00:23:735 - I'd suggest adding a note here, or making 00:23:589 - a triple to make this pattern stand out more against the k k k k k k kD from before. Added the note on 00:23:735 - .
- 00:28:418 - Same as above. ~
- 00:37:199 - and 00:37:492 - Same kind of reasoning as above. I'd suggest adding d's on the mentioned points to follow the drums a bit better and make the pattern itself stand out a bit more. (Since it looks basically like the previous patterns.) I see. I actually held it "thinner" not to overmap too much.
- 01:14:662 - Same problem that happened in Futsuu. ~
[Oni]Overall, a pretty nice difficulty. It's fun to play. Good job Fan. ♥
- 00:06:174 - kdd is a sin. Consider trying kkd instead, imo it flows a bit better and follows the rhythm a bit more accurately. I honestly have no problems with kdd by myself but kkd sounds good as well, changed.
- 00:08:516 - Same as above. L(´・ω ・`)J
- 00:21:248 - I can accept this. Good job. ♥ wwwwww
- 00:23:589 - Would follow the kick at 00:23:735 - more accurately as ddk. ddd sounds - even if it's rather plain - better in my opinion.
- 00:25:931 - Good job #2. 00:25:931 - wwwwww²
- 00:28:272 - Same concern as 00:23:589 - ~
- 00:37:931 - I'd suggest making this a k, it'd follow the drums / vocals a bit better. Nah, I find ddddd works well the way it is.
- 00:40:857 - kkd. Follows the vocals a bit more nicely. You truly hate kdd, right?
- 00:42:321 - kdk. Same reason as above. Done.
- 00:44:809 - Considering the vocals are a bit more intense here than the last kd dk, I'd suggest adding a note here to emphasize that a bit more. ~
- 00:47:223 - and 00:47:296 - Preferably, both could be k's to follow the drums. But if not both, then just 00:47:296 - since ddddd seems rather plain when there are clearly different things happening here. idk.. dddkk sounds not really natural with the song, denied.
- 00:49:492 - kkd or kdk. Same type of reasoning as 00:42:321 - kkd here.
- 01:09:248 - kkd. Same as above. Done.
- 01:09:687 - / 01:09:979 - / 01:10:272 - Seems a bit odd to not have these as finishers but have 01:00:321 - / 01:00:613 - / 01:00:906 - . Consider making the mentioned points finishers or removing them. (Especially since this is the only difficulty that has finishers at these parts.) oi~
Sorry if my mod was a bit long. ;; But, good luck. ;w;7
thanks!snowball112 wrote:
Heya, random mod, only looking at Oni for now
I think it would be good for structure if you use d on the following: Gotta say that I disagree here, the k notes follows the lighter sounds - therefore I also changed 00:00:614 (1) - as k. And 00:04:418 (23) - became as d.Starting from 00:09:979 until 00:13:492 you have D D D K on the large white ticks, so why not use a similar structure in the intro when the sounds also support this? eg. 00:01:345 (5,6,7,8) - ddkd and 00:03:833 (20,21) ctrl+g. I don't really get the point you try to explain, to be honest. But generally I don't really agree with the idea to change them like this.
- 00:01:784
- 00:02:955
- 00:05:296
- 00:06:467
- 00:07:638
Above point applies to other diffs as well, eg. I don't see why both 00:01:492 (3,4) are k in Futsuu, wouldn't it sound better to make 00:01:053 (2,3,4) k dd? The sound on 00:01:053 feels stronger and this way you could keep a simple structure as well by having the 1/1 spaced notes both as d. Would work far better for consistency if you make this structure similar across your diffs. I honestly don't feel like that, sorry. No changes here.Good luck
- You might as well make 00:11:882 (77,78,79,80,81) ddkkd, feels more intuitive in this section imo. Similar with 00:16:565 (112,113,114,115,116) etc. I find the d - k switch sounds cool and plays interesting, no changes here.
- I think you should make 00:06:174 (33,34,35,36) ddk d, I feel like this should be a less intense version of 00:09:979 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73). This could work even better if you remove notes like 00:01:199 and 00:02:370 from the previous part and just have 1/2 patterns from 00:05:296 instead. This is because there is no sound within the pattern starting at 00:05:589 that would justify the use of a 1/4 pattern. If you choose to keep the 1/4, I'd suggest you make 00:07:345 (42,43,44) dkd and 00:08:516 (49,50,51) ddk. Dense-wise I find that I shouldn't really touch this section much. ddk could work but I find kdd would be more consistent since it's basically the same as the first kdkdkkdk but with a triplet instead.
- It would sound much better if you move 00:21:321 to 00:21:467 and change to d, if you listen carefully there is more audible 1/4 there that would support a triple. To be honest, I do not hear any 1/4 out, the current triplet sounds really good so change here.
- Similarly, I'd suggest you move 00:23:662 to 00:23:809 or make this pattern a 5-note and change 00:23:589 to k, I think it would be better for consistency if you follow the drum like in the previous parts. Same reason as above.
- The triple of 00:28:272 (194,195,196) doesn't make much sense imo, you have far louder 1/4 in the music right before this point. How about moving 00:28:345 to 00:27:906 and changing 00:28:126 to k? Would sound better imo. This doesn't really sounds right to me..
- Better make both 00:37:638 (237,238) k, you have drums until this point and the lower instrument only starts on 00:37:784, so I think kkddd wouuld fit better. I believe I explained Ayyri before that a single-colored 5-let works easier than including k at the begin (or end, like previously suggested).
- Similar to the previous point, I think 00:37:784 and 00:37:784 would work well as k. ^
2016-10-13 16:37 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/902305 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation [Futsuu]]
2016-10-13 16:39 Lost The Lights: 00:11:881 - I think you can change this note to d, it sounds different to 00:10:711 - and 00:13:052 -
2016-10-13 16:39 Lost The Lights: If you apply that, do the same here 00:16:564 -
2016-10-13 16:40 Stefan: Hmm, sounds right.
2016-10-13 16:40 Stefan: Changed.
2016-10-13 16:41 Lost The Lights: 00:30:906 - 00:33:247 - 00:35:589 - I don't really feel these notes are necessary, they're making this part which is really calm somewhat hard for what it should be in a Futsuu.
2016-10-13 16:43 Lost The Lights: 00:40:418 - here, I know you're going for the vocals, but honestly it would be better to emphasize the drums as you did before (in those parts I just pointed out)
2016-10-13 16:43 Lost The Lights: mostly for consistency
2016-10-13 16:43 Lost The Lights: and imo it sounds better
2016-10-13 16:44 Stefan: Actually it's also nice due the guitar
2016-10-13 16:44 Stefan: the thingies on the calm part were removecx
2016-10-13 16:44 Stefan: *removed
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: 00:42:613 - here, you can move this note to 00:43:052 -
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: and change it to D
2016-10-13 16:45 Stefan: 00:40:418 (114) - and 00:45:101 (129) - are okay
2016-10-13 16:45 Stefan: the way they are.
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: hm
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: well but the one at 00:42:613 - actually should change
2016-10-13 16:46 Stefan: tbh
2016-10-13 16:46 Stefan: I'd keep 00:42:613 - BUT adding a note on 00:43:052 -
2016-10-13 16:46 Lost The Lights: that would be too hard imo
2016-10-13 16:46 Stefan: Hmm..
2016-10-13 16:47 Stefan: Then following your idea.
2016-10-13 16:49 Lost The Lights: 01:06:028 - should have a finisher
2016-10-13 16:49 Lost The Lights: actually
2016-10-13 16:49 Lost The Lights: wait
2016-10-13 16:50 Lost The Lights: no nvm
2016-10-13 16:50 Lost The Lights: the finisher sound is at 01:05:881 -
2016-10-13 16:50 Stefan: that'd be weird.
2016-10-13 16:50 Stefan: when the next note is D
2016-10-13 16:51 Lost The Lights: 01:17:442 - 01:22:125 - same as the beginning
2016-10-13 16:53 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/902307 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation [Muzukashii]]
2016-10-13 16:54 Lost The Lights: 00:43:052 -
2016-10-13 16:54 Lost The Lights: Being muzu I don't think you should miss this sound
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: 01:05:735 - the rhythm they used for this part of the song is really weird
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: why would they make it like that
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: but anyways
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: I think it sounds better if you remove the triplet, make 01:05:881 - a K and add a d at 01:06:028 -
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: basically, remove this note 01:05:808 - from the triplet
2016-10-13 16:57 Lost The Lights: that was a nice muzu
2016-10-13 16:57 Stefan: 00:43:052 - done.
2016-10-13 16:57 Stefan: 01:05:735 (280,281,282) - the idea of the triplet was to emphasize the guitar riff
2016-10-13 16:57 Lost The Lights: yeah but it sounds weird
2016-10-13 16:57 Stefan: although the break on 01:06:028 - sounds indeed weird.
2016-10-13 16:58 Lost The Lights: because the last note should be a finisher
2016-10-13 16:58 Lost The Lights: plus the break does sound weird
2016-10-13 17:00 Lost The Lights: lemme check oni
2016-10-13 17:00 Stefan: Changed.
2016-10-13 17:01 Lost The Lights: 00:11:881 - I think this 5-plet being kkddd has a better emphasis
2016-10-13 17:01 Lost The Lights: 00:16:564 - ^
2016-10-13 17:03 Lost The Lights: 00:40:125 - adding a note here sounds better imo
2016-10-13 17:03 Lost The Lights: 00:40:418 - 00:40:711 - these two could be finishers
2016-10-13 17:03 Lost The Lights: 00:43:052 - add a finisher to this one too
2016-10-13 17:04 Stefan: 00:11:881 (77,78,79,80,81) - idk... I had kdkdk before but someone suggested to use dkdkd instead.
2016-10-13 17:05 Stefan: However, I find the fast swap from d to k works better than having a straig kk.. or dd..
2016-10-13 17:05 Stefan: *straight
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: it's just better emphasis
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: because you can hear the sound
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: going from up to down
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: but you can keep the dkdkd
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: not saying its bad
2016-10-13 17:06 Stefan: It acutally goes up on 00:11:955 - and 00:12:101 -
2016-10-13 17:07 Stefan: Well, I won't change it
2016-10-13 17:07 Stefan: But
2016-10-13 17:07 Stefan: if Ari (or Ntiger, depends who's first) says something, I will.
2016-10-13 17:08 Lost The Lights: alright
2016-10-13 17:11 Lost The Lights: 00:45:101 - 00:45:394 - same thing I said about the finisher
2016-10-13 17:12 Lost The Lights: that's it tbh
2016-10-13 17:12 Lost The Lights: there's not much wrong
2016-10-13 17:13 Stefan: kk
2016-10-13 17:13 Stefan: Done here.
2016-10-13 17:13 Lost The Lights: alright
Im really sorry for taking this long to reply a mod ;_;frukoyurdakul wrote:
Hi, m4m promise from vulkin's queue. Sorry for the late mod. Late answer here too ;_;Vulkin's Kantan00:37:491 - You can maybe add a kat here. There is already a gap of 2/1. 00:37:638 - added a kat here instead, feels better here
00:48:174 - ^ ok
00:50:369 - ^ 00:50:516 - sounds better here, but a d instead for variabilty and consistency with previous point
00:55:199 - Kat will sound good at this place, since there is a drum attack. ok
01:05:589 - Since this part is the kiai part, i think you can make it denser. So, i recommend adding a don here.Sounds kinda weird to me, plus too many dons in that specific part imo,but ill add a k at 01:05:735 -
01:11:589 - A kat here maybe? no, theyre breaks for the outro, and increases SR over 2 ;_;
01:12:759 - A don here? same as above
01:24:467 - Maybe adding a kat will be a good for the outro of the song. no, has consistency with the intro 00:14:223 -
Solid mapset, good luck~ thanks so much for the mod lol
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xfraczynho wrote:
hi~ m4m for Vulkin
[Vulkin's Kantan]
Desactiva el Widescreen Support! OK
deberías dejar un par más de 4/1, si bien está re fácil, ayudan mucho al player de kantan a acostumbrarse borre algunas pocas
00:00:614 (1,2,3,4) - me gusta cómo suena un kddk en esas 4, pero up to you :3 no me gusto a mi, queria hacerla una diferencia
00:08:516 (8) - sé que esta nota es para darle énfasis a la siguiente, pero me suena muy raro (no pillo ningún sonido ahí D:) sep es para el enfasis, por tanto que quiera borrarla, quiero dar como una advertencia que se viene lo intenso
00:09:979 (10,17) - K maybe? nah
00:31:052 (42,43) - k k también ok
00:33:394 (46,47) - ^ ok
00:35:735 (49,50) - ^ bueno ;_;
en el kiai un comentario general: me enredé acá, si sigues los vocals podrías hacer un par de 4/1 más (01:01:491 (88) - borrar, por ejemplo), sólo como comentario :3 ahi borre una nota, pero no esa
igual en general está bien, lo que sí, puta que me enredo con los círculos en tick rojo y cambiando, sé que es por el timing, pero bueno. eso fue un problema de cuando empece a mappearlo xd
Good luck with this!:D arigatouu <3
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frukoyurdakul wrote:
Muzukashii00:06:759 - You can add a don here to support the keyboard(ish) sound. And it also supports the density of the notes too. Moved 00:07:931 - to 00:06:760 - , sounds better to me.
00:19:052 (92,93) - Maybe kkk will fit well here. Nah.. I am fairly certain the previous triplets and combo lenght of the pattern are "hard"
enough and emphasize the most we need.
00:19:638 (95) - While the music is the same of the rest of it, you need to delete this note because you skipped the same note in 00:21:979 - here, 00:24:320 - here and so on. That is a legit argument, removed.
00:47:003 (197,198,199,200) - You can reverse the colors of these notes, since 00:47:150 (198,199,200) - these are on snare sounds and the other is on a kick sound. Done.Oni00:05:150 - You can snap this SV change onto 00:05:296 (28) - this note. And it should be 0.9x due to smooth SV change, because you increased 0.02x on 1/2 space and increased 0.02 at 1/1 space. Making it 0.9x will solve the problem. If you accept, 00:05:442 - this will be unneccesary. ya
00:09:467 - The volume change on this pattern looks weird. 00:09:613 (59) - This note is on 40% volume and the next one is 80%. I recommend changing 00:09:540 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - these volumes to all 80%. Done.
00:10:052 - Since there is not a note on it, the SV change is unneccesary. I will just keep it for volume purposes.
00:19:052 (132,133) - How about changing these to a 1/4 kkk? It will fit considering the snare sounds on drums. I prefer the d - k switch more over triplet usage.
00:23:589 (162) - Changing this to kat will support the snare sound, and the music on that note is higher than 00:23:662 (163,164) - those two. I don't think the snare sound is really present here. keeping it as ddd.
00:29:735 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - I think you can reverse the colors of these notes since the kats are holding the kick sound and the finishers hold the hi-hat sounds. I don't really agree here. For this case I find kat more appropriate to play, don sounds too deep.
00:37:345 (235,236) - d-d and 00:37:638 (237,238,239,240,241) - kkkkk will fit better i think due to the snare sounds. If you accept this, 00:38:077 (242) - you can turn this finisher to DON to make some variety. Sound-wise
00:56:077 - How about changing the volume to 80% here? The music is going louder at this section. I actually find it's a bit calmer, didn't change.
01:01:199 (408,409,410) - I recommend kkk here, since the cymbals are strong. While your suggestion is valid I rather go with the ddk rhythm.
01:03:613 (427) - You can change this to kat to support higher vocals and make some variety. Meh, the D has more impact if it goes about me.
01:24:247 - This inherited point is unneccesary. Removed.
01:24:833 - ^ And removed.
01:25:052 - ^. And you can add a slider here but that's optional. Ah well, 01:24:906 - is good as end.
Solid mapset, good luck~
wwwwArrival wrote:
Hey Stefan
[Kantan]
Seems good !
[Futsuu]
00:09:101 (26) - Let a 1/1 break before the next note, most of all since there is a SV speed up. Same for the last slider (01:14:809 (230) - ) yap
[Muzukashii]
00:37:638 - What about a triplet k here ? I find that the single kat note sounds stronger than "forcing" a triplet here.
00:45:979 - ^ ~
00:56:662 (239) - k here seems necessary for the emphasis on 00:56:809 (240) - Done.
[Oni]
00:55:199 (366,367,368,369,370,371,372) - kdkdkdk is really unfitting. kkddddk would seems way more appropriate. I did kkkdddk instead.
01:09:687 (470,471,472) - These should be finisher to at least ensure consistency with 01:00:321 (403,404,405) - . They can stay as don though. Aye Aye
Call me back !
*Vulkin Intensifies*Arrival wrote:
Hey Stefan
[Kantan]
Seems good !
No change, sorry ;_; But i fixed a silly little mistake on my diff (01:23:296 (128) - made k for consistency with intro)frukoyurdakul wrote:
from p/5808000
Hi, m4m promise from vulkin's queue. Sorry for the late mod.Vulkin's Kantan00:37:491 - You can maybe add a kat here. There is already a gap of 2/1. Next note is on 1/2, so no
00:48:174 - ^ Theres note already LOL
00:50:369 - ^next note 1/2
00:55:199 - Kat will sound good at this place, since there is a drum attack. already k
01:05:589 - Since this part is the kiai part, i think you can make it denser. So, i recommend adding a don here. Trying to make a break there, even if its kiai, i dont want to risk the novice player from getting confused
01:11:589 - A kat here maybe? Pitch from this note is different than the next one, no
01:12:759 - A don here? 01:12:028 (111,112) - are same pitch, no change
01:24:467 - Maybe adding a kat will be a good for the outro of the song. I think its fine just as it is
Solid mapset, good luck~
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Thank you a lot, I appreciate this help and will consider it when we're really ready.Arrival wrote:
Well that was surprising. You can also ask me when you finished it.
doing my best!Hitsu wrote:
oh shit
please do not make us wait for too long again with this ;www;
i just love the set so much, please kill me