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Ayyri
"hardest kantan" -stefan
Vulkin
tbh i can make my kantan a bit easier even lol
Topic Starter
Stefan

Invective wrote:

M4M, sorry for delay :? university work is keeping me busy. No need to feel sorry, I am by my own late af.
d = don, red note
k = kat, blue note
D = don finisher, big red note
K = kat finisher, big blue note

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General
3/2 breaks op for SR rofl
Increase HP settings? Did that in the last mod.

Futsuu
00:09:101 (26) - Still unsure about the necessity of a slider here. Maybe just have a note at 00:09:540 where the sound changes. It replaces the stream pattern from the Oni pretty well.
01:14:662 (230) - Another slider. ^
01:19:638 (247) - Delete? For consistency with the beginning, as well as keeping the 1/2 patterns short because this is a decently high bpm for players of this level. Okidoki.
On its own its a fun diff but idk spread is trippy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you probably have a better idea of how to fix it than I do I blame the song, that's my solution.

Muzukashii
00:11:150 (45) - Change to D? I'd say make all of these notes which end each of these small segments as a D EXCEPT for the ones which land on this sound at 00:13:492 (59) which would be K, so it differentiates between the lower and higher pitched sounds. Chnaged.
00:13:931 (61) - Change to k? Matches the pitch of the sounds and is consistent with Oni. Yup.
00:27:979 (124,125) - I get the point of changing it from k d to d k (when comparing to the previous one at 00:27:979 (124,125) - ) given the additional drumroll but I still think it fits better as k d due to the sound you're actually following (aka not the drumroll). Plus, consistency with Oni. Okay.
00:33:979 - Missing d here? I'm going off how you did it at 00:31:638 (136). That's fine, I rather want to hold a short break here.
00:59:443 - Missing d again? Had one at 00:57:101 (239). Everything's fine here.

Oni
00:10:711 (68,69,70,71,72) - Idk about kkdkk here, with k on higher pitch and lower pitch kkkdk would probably be correct since the first and third notes have the same pitch but that's ugly so maybe kkddk? And this can be applied to all occurrences. I think kkddk can work here too, changed it.
01:02:223 (410) - Change to d? Nothing to suggest a k here, the pitch of vocal is the same as 01:01:492 (406) - which is a d too. (406) works different that (410) since (406) emphasize the background music much more with D than with K, no change here.

Hope it helps :D
thanks

Ayyri wrote:

"hardest kantan" -stefan
YOU HAVE NO PROOFS

Skylish wrote:

lol stefan you opt to let another mapper to make a Kantan for you :D

Wise choice!
Because I decided to let someone good map it, that's the reason.

juankristal wrote:

Can I make a 4K Mania set for this? :O
I really thought about your request but I deny it because I want to focus fully on my content. Sorry.
juankristal
No problem sir! Good luck here! :D
Ayyri
Hello there.

I don't think that I did a good enough mod for this ~4 months ago and I'd like to try to fix that. So here you are!

[General]
  1. Metadata seems fine.
  2. Widescreen support can be disabled.
[Vulkin's Kantan]
  1. 00:08:516 - and 00:08:809 - You could show the differences in pitches between these two notes by making one of them d. (Preferably 00:08:516 - )
  2. 00:11:150 - / 00:12:321 - / 00:13:492 - / 00:15:833 - / 00:17:004 - / 00:18:174 - I'd recommend making all of these finishers. Because there is quite a big impact on these notes. As well as the fact that they're basically the same as the D's that you have at 00:09:979 - and 00:14:662 -
  3. 00:20:077 - Would be better moved to 00:19:784 - to follow the beginning of this rhythm change, rather than the second beat of it.
  4. 00:22:418 - I would propose the same idea here, except moving it to 00:22:126 - .
  5. 00:24:028 - Why not have this a finisher just like the previous two D's at 00:21:687 - and 00:19:345 - ?
  6. 00:24:760 - Same thing as 00:22:418 - and 00:20:077 - .
  7. 00:27:101 - Same as the last point.
  8. 00:28:272 - Could be changed to d to emphasize the K at 00:28:711 - rather than further cluttering the section with k's.
  9. 00:33:687 - Change to k. Aside from the fact that most of the notes within this section are just d's, there is a clear kick in the background here.
  10. 00:42:760 - and 00:41:735 - I would suggest Ctrl+G'ing these two note, due to the pitch differences here in relation to the previous combination that was used at 00:39:394 -
  11. 00:47:443 - Would recommend changing this to D to emphasize the louder sound in the background here. Just like you did at 00:46:272 - .
  12. 00:48:760 - Move to 00:48:613 - to better follow the drums as well as vocals.
  13. 00:49:345 - Move to 00:49:199 - for the same reason as above. Since both of these are falling a beat later than they should be.
  14. 00:51:101 - I would also suggest moving this forward to 00:50:955 - for the same reason as the last two points.
  15. 00:53:296 - Change to D, it's relatively the same sound as the previous D at 00:52:126 - . As well as the fact that this would make the K at 00:54:467 - even more impacted.
  16. 00:59:882 - Change to d so it's not the same as the monotone k's at 01:00:321 - .
  17. 01:01:492 - Change to D, it's basically the same as the D at the start of the kiai here.
  18. 01:02:662 - Change to k. There's a clear difference in pitch between this note and 01:02:223 - .
  19. 01:03:394 - Move to 01:03:248 - to better follow the drums as well as vocals.
  20. 01:04:565 - Change to d. Relatively the same pitch as 01:03:833 -
  21. 01:08:077 - Would better fit at 01:07:931 - with what 01:06:906 - and 01:07:345 - are following.
  22. 01:09:248 - Change to d for the same reason as 00:59:882 -
  23. 01:10:857 - Change to D for the same reason as 01:01:492 -.
  24. 01:12:760 - Change to d. Relatively the same pitch as 01:12:028 - .
  25. 01:13:199 - Change to K, has the same pitch as the D at the start of the kiai, despite the fact that this one is following the kick instead.
  26. 01:13:931 - Change to d. Would better emphasize the kick at 01:14:370 -
  27. 01:16:711 - / 01:17:882 - / 01:19:053 - / 01:21:394 - / 01:22:565 - / 01:23:735 - Like in the beginning, I would suggest making all of these finishers too.
  28. 01:24:467 - Add a k here to keep the consistency of the d k and k d that you've had within this section. Also because the drums are rather prominent here.
My main issue with this map is that it ignored a lot of the drums / vocals just to say relatively monotone in hopes that having just one color or the other would make this difficulty easier. Because imo, that just made it plainer.

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:06:174 - This note would sound better moved back to 00:06:028 - to follow the same type of sound that 00:05:296 - is following.
  2. Going along with the above suggestion, 00:07:345 - would sound better if moved back to 00:07:199 - .
  3. Also, with the top two suggestions, I think that adding a note at 00:08:370 - would be beneficial to preserve the consistency of the doubles beforehand. (Preferably d.)
  4. 00:23:882 - Could be changed to k to better follows the kicks, but it depends if you want to keep the d dD type of pattern here to be different from the k kD that was at 00:21:540 - (But you followed something similar to what I suggested at 00:28:565 - so that's why this point is questionable.)
  5. 00:37:345 - Like the above, changing this to k would show a change in pitch between the patterns that occured before this one, and this one.
  6. 00:42:760 - Using a finisher here is a bit debatable since it's during a rather calm section, and all it is emphasizing is the kick in the background. But tbh I'd keep it for consistency reasons. (Just thought I'd mention this.)
  7. 00:49:492 - I'd suggest changing this to d so it's not a monotone k k k k K pattern here, also the differences in pitch.
  8. 01:13:492 - You could add a k, just so the pattern matches the vocal a bit better based on the note you have at 01:13:931 - but if you don't want a 4 note pattern, don't do it.
  9. 01:14:662 - I would suggest either removing this slider or shortening it. Since the sound it should be following starts at 01:15:101 - . If removed, add a k at 01:15:101 - and 01:15:248 - (But it depends on how you want to follow the sound here. ;w; )
I think the doubles in this difficulty are a nice and simplified why to follow a good amount of the rhythms in this song. Good job!

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:23:735 - I'd suggest adding a note here, or making 00:23:589 - a triple to make this pattern stand out more against the k k k k k k kD from before.
  2. 00:28:418 - Same as above.
  3. 00:37:199 - and 00:37:492 - Same kind of reasoning as above. I'd suggest adding d's on the mentioned points to follow the drums a bit better and make the pattern itself stand out a bit more. (Since it looks basically like the previous patterns.)
  4. 01:14:662 - Same problem that happened in Futsuu.
Relatively easy difficulty, matches well with the Futsuu imo.

[Oni]
  1. 00:06:174 - kdd is a sin. Consider trying kkd instead, imo it flows a bit better and follows the rhythm a bit more accurately.
  2. 00:08:516 - Same as above.
  3. 00:21:248 - I can accept this. Good job. ♥
  4. 00:23:589 - Would follow the kick at 00:23:735 - more accurately as ddk.
  5. 00:25:931 - Good job #2. 00:25:931 -
  6. 00:28:272 - Same concern as 00:23:589 -
  7. 00:37:931 - I'd suggest making this a k, it'd follow the drums / vocals a bit better.
  8. 00:40:857 - kkd. Follows the vocals a bit more nicely.
  9. 00:42:321 - kdk. Same reason as above.
  10. 00:44:809 - Considering the vocals are a bit more intense here than the last kd dk, I'd suggest adding a note here to emphasize that a bit more.
  11. 00:47:223 - and 00:47:296 - Preferably, both could be k's to follow the drums. But if not both, then just 00:47:296 - since ddddd seems rather plain when there are clearly different things happening here.
  12. 00:49:492 - kkd or kdk. Same type of reasoning as 00:42:321 -
  13. 01:09:248 - kkd. Same as above.
  14. 01:09:687 - / 01:09:979 - / 01:10:272 - Seems a bit odd to not have these as finishers but have 01:00:321 - / 01:00:613 - / 01:00:906 - . Consider making the mentioned points finishers or removing them. (Especially since this is the only difficulty that has finishers at these parts.)
Overall, a pretty nice difficulty. It's fun to play. Good job Fan. ♥

Sorry if my mod was a bit long. ;; But, good luck. ;w;7
Topic Starter
Stefan
rip vulkin
Vulkin
http://puu.sh/qOioN/6bc220185b.zip finally applied all mods

im so bad at consistency omg
Topic Starter
Stefan

Ayyri wrote:

[General]
  1. Metadata seems fine.
  2. Widescreen support can be disabled.
aight.

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:06:174 - This note would sound better moved back to 00:06:028 - to follow the same type of sound that 00:05:296 - is following. Okay.
  2. Going along with the above suggestion, 00:07:345 - would sound better if moved back to 00:07:199 - . Done and removed note on 00:07:492 -
  3. Also, with the top two suggestions, I think that adding a note at 00:08:370 - would be beneficial to preserve the consistency of the doubles beforehand. (Preferably d.) Done, added as k tho.
  4. 00:23:882 - Could be changed to k to better follows the kicks, but it depends if you want to keep the d dD type of pattern here to be different from the k kD that was at 00:21:540 - (But you followed something similar to what I suggested at 00:28:565 - so that's why this point is questionable.) I guess kD might be easier to follow since dD could be too fast to actually catch the D note. changed.
  5. 00:37:345 - Like the above, changing this to k would show a change in pitch between the patterns that occured before this one, and this one. ~(´・ω ・`)~
  6. 00:42:760 - Using a finisher here is a bit debatable since it's during a rather calm section, and all it is emphasizing is the kick in the background. But tbh I'd keep it for consistency reasons. (Just thought I'd mention this.) Thinking more about it makes me actually want to remove it but uh, idk. If you say I should keep it then I don't mind.
  7. 00:49:492 - I'd suggest changing this to d so it's not a monotone k k k k K pattern here, also the differences in pitch. It somewhat makes the section a bit harder than needed but I trust you in this case.
  8. 01:13:492 - You could add a k, just so the pattern matches the vocal a bit better based on the note you have at 01:13:931 - but if you don't want a 4 note pattern, don't do it. a~d~d~e~d
  9. 01:14:662 - I would suggest either removing this slider or shortening it. Since the sound it should be following starts at 01:15:101 - . If removed, add a k at 01:15:101 - and 01:15:248 - (But it depends on how you want to follow the sound here. ;w; ) Starting the slider on 01:15:101 - would mean it'd become a 1/1 slider which feels very weird after. I started the slider from now on at 01:14:809 - (due vocals). I hope this is fine.
I think the doubles in this difficulty are a nice and simplified why to follow a good amount of the rhythms in this song. Good job!

[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:23:735 - I'd suggest adding a note here, or making 00:23:589 - a triple to make this pattern stand out more against the k k k k k k kD from before. Added the note on 00:23:735 - .
  2. 00:28:418 - Same as above. ~
  3. 00:37:199 - and 00:37:492 - Same kind of reasoning as above. I'd suggest adding d's on the mentioned points to follow the drums a bit better and make the pattern itself stand out a bit more. (Since it looks basically like the previous patterns.) I see. I actually held it "thinner" not to overmap too much.
  4. 01:14:662 - Same problem that happened in Futsuu. ~
Relatively easy difficulty, matches well with the Futsuu imo.

[Oni]
  1. 00:06:174 - kdd is a sin. Consider trying kkd instead, imo it flows a bit better and follows the rhythm a bit more accurately. I honestly have no problems with kdd by myself but kkd sounds good as well, changed.
  2. 00:08:516 - Same as above. L(´・ω ・`)J
  3. 00:21:248 - I can accept this. Good job. ♥ wwwwww
  4. 00:23:589 - Would follow the kick at 00:23:735 - more accurately as ddk. ddd sounds - even if it's rather plain - better in my opinion.
  5. 00:25:931 - Good job #2. 00:25:931 - wwwwww²
  6. 00:28:272 - Same concern as 00:23:589 - ~
  7. 00:37:931 - I'd suggest making this a k, it'd follow the drums / vocals a bit better. Nah, I find ddddd works well the way it is.
  8. 00:40:857 - kkd. Follows the vocals a bit more nicely. You truly hate kdd, right?
  9. 00:42:321 - kdk. Same reason as above. Done.
  10. 00:44:809 - Considering the vocals are a bit more intense here than the last kd dk, I'd suggest adding a note here to emphasize that a bit more. ~
  11. 00:47:223 - and 00:47:296 - Preferably, both could be k's to follow the drums. But if not both, then just 00:47:296 - since ddddd seems rather plain when there are clearly different things happening here. idk.. dddkk sounds not really natural with the song, denied.
  12. 00:49:492 - kkd or kdk. Same type of reasoning as 00:42:321 - kkd here.
  13. 01:09:248 - kkd. Same as above. Done.
  14. 01:09:687 - / 01:09:979 - / 01:10:272 - Seems a bit odd to not have these as finishers but have 01:00:321 - / 01:00:613 - / 01:00:906 - . Consider making the mentioned points finishers or removing them. (Especially since this is the only difficulty that has finishers at these parts.) oi~
Overall, a pretty nice difficulty. It's fun to play. Good job Fan. ♥

Sorry if my mod was a bit long. ;; But, good luck. ;w;7
thk
snowball112
Heya, random mod, only looking at Oni for now

I think it would be good for structure if you use d on the following:
  1. 00:01:784
  2. 00:02:955
  3. 00:05:296
  4. 00:06:467
  5. 00:07:638
Starting from 00:09:979 until 00:13:492 you have D D D K on the large white ticks, so why not use a similar structure in the intro when the sounds also support this? eg. 00:01:345 (5,6,7,8) - ddkd and 00:03:833 (20,21) ctrl+g.

Above point applies to other diffs as well, eg. I don't see why both 00:01:492 (3,4) are k in Futsuu, wouldn't it sound better to make 00:01:053 (2,3,4) k dd? The sound on 00:01:053 feels stronger and this way you could keep a simple structure as well by having the 1/1 spaced notes both as d. Would work far better for consistency if you make this structure similar across your diffs.

  1. You might as well make 00:11:882 (77,78,79,80,81) ddkkd, feels more intuitive in this section imo. Similar with 00:16:565 (112,113,114,115,116) etc.
  2. I think you should make 00:06:174 (33,34,35,36) ddk d, I feel like this should be a less intense version of 00:09:979 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73). This could work even better if you remove notes like 00:01:199 and 00:02:370 from the previous part and just have 1/2 patterns from 00:05:296 instead. This is because there is no sound within the pattern starting at 00:05:589 that would justify the use of a 1/4 pattern. If you choose to keep the 1/4, I'd suggest you make 00:07:345 (42,43,44) dkd and 00:08:516 (49,50,51) ddk.
  3. It would sound much better if you move 00:21:321 to 00:21:467 and change to d, if you listen carefully there is more audible 1/4 there that would support a triple.
  4. Similarly, I'd suggest you move 00:23:662 to 00:23:809 or make this pattern a 5-note and change 00:23:589 to k, I think it would be better for consistency if you follow the drum like in the previous parts.
  5. The triple of 00:28:272 (194,195,196) doesn't make much sense imo, you have far louder 1/4 in the music right before this point. How about moving 00:28:345 to 00:27:906 and changing 00:28:126 to k? Would sound better imo.
  6. Better make both 00:37:638 (237,238) k, you have drums until this point and the lower instrument only starts on 00:37:784, so I think kkddd wouuld fit better.
  7. Similar to the previous point, I think 00:37:784 and 00:37:784 would work well as k.
Good luck
Topic Starter
Stefan

snowball112 wrote:

Heya, random mod, only looking at Oni for now

I think it would be good for structure if you use d on the following: Gotta say that I disagree here, the k notes follows the lighter sounds - therefore I also changed 00:00:614 (1) - as k. And 00:04:418 (23) - became as d.
  1. 00:01:784
  2. 00:02:955
  3. 00:05:296
  4. 00:06:467
  5. 00:07:638
Starting from 00:09:979 until 00:13:492 you have D D D K on the large white ticks, so why not use a similar structure in the intro when the sounds also support this? eg. 00:01:345 (5,6,7,8) - ddkd and 00:03:833 (20,21) ctrl+g. I don't really get the point you try to explain, to be honest. But generally I don't really agree with the idea to change them like this.

Above point applies to other diffs as well, eg. I don't see why both 00:01:492 (3,4) are k in Futsuu, wouldn't it sound better to make 00:01:053 (2,3,4) k dd? The sound on 00:01:053 feels stronger and this way you could keep a simple structure as well by having the 1/1 spaced notes both as d. Would work far better for consistency if you make this structure similar across your diffs. I honestly don't feel like that, sorry. No changes here.

  1. You might as well make 00:11:882 (77,78,79,80,81) ddkkd, feels more intuitive in this section imo. Similar with 00:16:565 (112,113,114,115,116) etc. I find the d - k switch sounds cool and plays interesting, no changes here.
  2. I think you should make 00:06:174 (33,34,35,36) ddk d, I feel like this should be a less intense version of 00:09:979 (64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73). This could work even better if you remove notes like 00:01:199 and 00:02:370 from the previous part and just have 1/2 patterns from 00:05:296 instead. This is because there is no sound within the pattern starting at 00:05:589 that would justify the use of a 1/4 pattern. If you choose to keep the 1/4, I'd suggest you make 00:07:345 (42,43,44) dkd and 00:08:516 (49,50,51) ddk. Dense-wise I find that I shouldn't really touch this section much. ddk could work but I find kdd would be more consistent since it's basically the same as the first kdkdkkdk but with a triplet instead.
  3. It would sound much better if you move 00:21:321 to 00:21:467 and change to d, if you listen carefully there is more audible 1/4 there that would support a triple. To be honest, I do not hear any 1/4 out, the current triplet sounds really good so change here.
  4. Similarly, I'd suggest you move 00:23:662 to 00:23:809 or make this pattern a 5-note and change 00:23:589 to k, I think it would be better for consistency if you follow the drum like in the previous parts. Same reason as above.
  5. The triple of 00:28:272 (194,195,196) doesn't make much sense imo, you have far louder 1/4 in the music right before this point. How about moving 00:28:345 to 00:27:906 and changing 00:28:126 to k? Would sound better imo. This doesn't really sounds right to me..
  6. Better make both 00:37:638 (237,238) k, you have drums until this point and the lower instrument only starts on 00:37:784, so I think kkddd wouuld fit better. I believe I explained Ayyri before that a single-colored 5-let works easier than including k at the begin (or end, like previously suggested).
  7. Similar to the previous point, I think 00:37:784 and 00:37:784 would work well as k. ^
Good luck
thanks!
Nwolf
pls let me keep my sanity, do offset +146 so the song's rhythm is used correctly (vorgezogene Noten)

00:19:491 - ; 00:28:857 -
Topic Starter
Stefan
honk honk

Update: Held an IRC Mod for the Kantan Difficulty with Vulkin:
00:39 Vulkin: got ya email
00:39 Stefan: O
00:39 Stefan: you're online
00:39 Stefan: Hmm
00:39 Vulkin: yup
00:40 Stefan: Then let me quick finish my mod
00:40 Stefan: so we can move to your difficulty
00:40 Vulkin: allright
00:46 Stefan: Okay.
00:47 Vulkin: :o
00:47 *Stefan is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/981753 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation [Vulkin's Kantan]]
00:48 Stefan: Make sure to update the set
00:48 Stefan: I added new timing
00:49 Vulkin: saw the post that ntiger did
00:50 Stefan: 00:08:516 (8) - just curious but
00:50 Stefan: why would you make an exception for this "loop" by adding a d note here
00:50 Stefan: I don't think this is urgently necessary.
00:51 Vulkin: its to give a bit of variation, since d d d d k k k k is already plain enough :/
00:51 Stefan: Well
00:51 Stefan: I think this argument doesn't really makes sense
00:52 Stefan: That also would requires to add a note on 00:03:833 -
00:53 Stefan: And generally, I think it's fine to stay this way.
00:53 Stefan: I mean, you have enough time to map "different" after the calm section of the song.,
00:53 Stefan: that's how I feel at least.
00:54 Vulkin: Hmm, I guess you're right, but still, without that note (other than making it more boring for the player imho) it wouldnt like warn them for the sudden change of the intensity of the song
00:55 Stefan: Well, okay.
00:56 Stefan: 00:14:223 (17,25) - You should remove them to have longer break phases
00:57 Vulkin: I agree!
00:58 Vulkin: I guess youre right, plus now that i think of it, it sounds a bit different for it to have the same pattern
00:58 Stefan: yup
00:59 Stefan: I will just apply to the things you will change anyways so it's faster to explain
01:00 Stefan: 00:19:784 (25,29,33,37) - these notes should be moved to their next white tick.
01:00 Stefan: I think having a longer break time to switch from 1/2 to 1/1 looks better
01:00 Stefan: than the more or less sudden switch right now.
01:02 Vulkin: Hmm
01:03 Vulkin: Yea you're right, Should have checked better the mods a few months ago
01:07 Stefan: 00:38:808 - and 00:43:491 - I think there is really no problem to add d notes here.
01:08 Stefan: 00:41:150 - could also work but yeah, I leave this to you fully.
01:09 Stefan: Oh yeha and 00:45:833 - too.
01:09 Vulkin: oh like to follow the voice?
01:09 Stefan: Yes
01:09 Stefan: I understand you left these parts out but I think that is too much
01:10 Stefan: the SR also won't go apeshit if you add them
01:10 Stefan: And I even believe it's better to get in
01:10 Vulkin: Yup, sounds way better with them
01:11 Vulkin: Wont it be a bit too long?
01:12 Stefan: Well, 00:41:150 - and 00:45:833 - are really optional
01:12 Stefan: but I think it works fine here.
01:14 Vulkin: Hmm, eh it gets justified with the break after it i guess so better to keep them
01:14 Vulkin: gotta pray the SR doesnt fk the whole mapset
01:15 Stefan: Well
01:15 Stefan: SR is irrelevent in this case. :D
01:15 Stefan: Until it goes above 2*
01:15 Vulkin: yup
01:15 Vulkin: well i guess 1.99 is the peak
01:15 Vulkin: since i just saw some kantan getting ranked at that SR
01:17 Stefan: 00:56:808 - 00:59:296 - What about this? https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/aQe46ObQ
01:18 Stefan: It still follows the vocals but on a different way
01:18 Stefan: However, it's much simpler than mixing 1/1 and 1/2
01:22 Vulkin: wait
01:22 Vulkin: i got lost on making it here to map it like that
01:26 Stefan: Oh
01:26 Vulkin: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6302870 something like this?
01:27 Vulkin: changed all the combos to 1 just for the sake of simplicity
01:28 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/IP72ftIV
01:28 Stefan: Oh
01:28 Stefan: Well, that's what I meant.
01:28 Vulkin: wait the 76th note at 00:56:955 - ?
01:29 Stefan: No, I fixed the Kiai
01:29 Stefan: so the line is on 00:56:808 - now
01:29 Vulkin: Ah ok,
01:29 Vulkin: sorry lol
01:30 Stefan: 01:02:223 (88,89,90,91) - this applies for them too
01:30 Vulkin: I would personally move that k triplet 1/2 to the left
01:30 Vulkin: so it kinda follows the "Sho me ni" or something that the singer says
01:30 Stefan: Well
01:31 Stefan: then it goes up to 2.01*
01:31 Stefan: (I've tried that before)
01:31 Stefan: Also, since 00:57:247 (77,78) - are on 1/1 already it's easier to follow.
01:32 Vulkin: Then why not deleting the middle note of the triplet when its moved? doesnt go over 2*
01:33 Vulkin: and follows the voice (somewhat)
01:33 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/UwPLiiBL ?
01:34 Stefan: Oh wait
01:34 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/PygqgKyW this
01:34 Stefan: Hmm, okay.
01:35 Stefan: 01:01:930 - then add a note here as well
01:35 Vulkin: a k would fit on that slot
01:35 Vulkin: omg 1.99
01:35 Vulkin: Gotta be very careful now
01:35 Vulkin: but yea
01:36 Stefan: huh?
01:36 Vulkin: the SR
01:36 Vulkin: with that note there
01:36 Stefan: on 01:01:930 - a k?
01:36 Vulkin: Yeah, it increased the SR a bit
01:37 Stefan: 01:05:735 - I'd remove the note since 01:06:174 - is strong enough
01:37 Stefan: and works better as stand-alone note
01:39 Stefan: 01:06:174 - 01:08:516 - https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/nvnHGAVP
01:39 Vulkin: Hmm
01:40 Vulkin: for the 01:05:735 -
01:40 Vulkin: wont it be a bit too lonely even if its a kiai?
01:40 Stefan: 01:11:589 - Nah, this is the longer break you (should) have.
01:40 Stefan: Woops, wrong time
01:40 Stefan: forget the timestamp
01:40 Stefan: But like said, it won't.
01:41 Stefan: 01:11:589 - and 01:12:759 - could also be removed.
01:42 Vulkin: Hmm, your right :3
01:42 Stefan: As well 01:13:930 -
01:43 Vulkin: Nah, there the "Tsu" is pretty strong imho
01:43 Stefan: Hmm
01:43 Vulkin: In fact i would Ctrl+G that note and the next one
01:43 Vulkin: so its k d
01:43 Vulkin: for the pitch
01:44 Stefan: Okay.
01:44 Stefan: 01:15:101 - Since you haven't mapped this "sound" at the begin, why would you do this here?
01:44 Stefan: Intensity-wise, it's meh
01:44 Stefan: so I'd remove the note.
01:45 Vulkin: Eh, now that you mention it
01:45 Stefan: Yeah, and here again: 01:19:784 - 01:24:467 - to remove
01:45 Vulkin: O consistency my worst nightmare
01:46 Stefan: So
01:46 Vulkin: yeah your right
01:46 Stefan: I came to 1.93*, surprisingly
01:46 Stefan: I also believe it's better now.
01:46 Vulkin: way better i feel
01:47 Stefan: Okay, so if you're done, send me your .osu (because I very likely didn't applied for everything. D:)
Lost The Lights
Small IRC mod for Stefan's diffs
2016-10-13 16:37 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/902305 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation [Futsuu]]
2016-10-13 16:39 Lost The Lights: 00:11:881 - I think you can change this note to d, it sounds different to 00:10:711 - and 00:13:052 -
2016-10-13 16:39 Lost The Lights: If you apply that, do the same here 00:16:564 -
2016-10-13 16:40 Stefan: Hmm, sounds right.
2016-10-13 16:40 Stefan: Changed.
2016-10-13 16:41 Lost The Lights: 00:30:906 - 00:33:247 - 00:35:589 - I don't really feel these notes are necessary, they're making this part which is really calm somewhat hard for what it should be in a Futsuu.
2016-10-13 16:43 Lost The Lights: 00:40:418 - here, I know you're going for the vocals, but honestly it would be better to emphasize the drums as you did before (in those parts I just pointed out)
2016-10-13 16:43 Lost The Lights: mostly for consistency
2016-10-13 16:43 Lost The Lights: and imo it sounds better
2016-10-13 16:44 Stefan: Actually it's also nice due the guitar
2016-10-13 16:44 Stefan: the thingies on the calm part were removecx
2016-10-13 16:44 Stefan: *removed
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: 00:42:613 - here, you can move this note to 00:43:052 -
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: and change it to D
2016-10-13 16:45 Stefan: 00:40:418 (114) - and 00:45:101 (129) - are okay
2016-10-13 16:45 Stefan: the way they are.
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: hm
2016-10-13 16:45 Lost The Lights: well but the one at 00:42:613 - actually should change
2016-10-13 16:46 Stefan: tbh
2016-10-13 16:46 Stefan: I'd keep 00:42:613 - BUT adding a note on 00:43:052 -
2016-10-13 16:46 Lost The Lights: that would be too hard imo
2016-10-13 16:46 Stefan: Hmm..
2016-10-13 16:47 Stefan: Then following your idea.
2016-10-13 16:49 Lost The Lights: 01:06:028 - should have a finisher
2016-10-13 16:49 Lost The Lights: actually
2016-10-13 16:49 Lost The Lights: wait
2016-10-13 16:50 Lost The Lights: no nvm
2016-10-13 16:50 Lost The Lights: the finisher sound is at 01:05:881 -
2016-10-13 16:50 Stefan: that'd be weird.
2016-10-13 16:50 Stefan: when the next note is D
2016-10-13 16:51 Lost The Lights: 01:17:442 - 01:22:125 - same as the beginning
2016-10-13 16:53 Lost The Lights: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/902307 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation [Muzukashii]]
2016-10-13 16:54 Lost The Lights: 00:43:052 -
2016-10-13 16:54 Lost The Lights: Being muzu I don't think you should miss this sound
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: 01:05:735 - the rhythm they used for this part of the song is really weird
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: why would they make it like that
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: but anyways
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: I think it sounds better if you remove the triplet, make 01:05:881 - a K and add a d at 01:06:028 -
2016-10-13 16:56 Lost The Lights: basically, remove this note 01:05:808 - from the triplet
2016-10-13 16:57 Lost The Lights: that was a nice muzu
2016-10-13 16:57 Stefan: 00:43:052 - done.
2016-10-13 16:57 Stefan: 01:05:735 (280,281,282) - the idea of the triplet was to emphasize the guitar riff
2016-10-13 16:57 Lost The Lights: yeah but it sounds weird
2016-10-13 16:57 Stefan: although the break on 01:06:028 - sounds indeed weird.
2016-10-13 16:58 Lost The Lights: because the last note should be a finisher
2016-10-13 16:58 Lost The Lights: plus the break does sound weird
2016-10-13 17:00 Lost The Lights: lemme check oni
2016-10-13 17:00 Stefan: Changed.
2016-10-13 17:01 Lost The Lights: 00:11:881 - I think this 5-plet being kkddd has a better emphasis
2016-10-13 17:01 Lost The Lights: 00:16:564 - ^
2016-10-13 17:03 Lost The Lights: 00:40:125 - adding a note here sounds better imo
2016-10-13 17:03 Lost The Lights: 00:40:418 - 00:40:711 - these two could be finishers
2016-10-13 17:03 Lost The Lights: 00:43:052 - add a finisher to this one too
2016-10-13 17:04 Stefan: 00:11:881 (77,78,79,80,81) - idk... I had kdkdk before but someone suggested to use dkdkd instead.
2016-10-13 17:05 Stefan: However, I find the fast swap from d to k works better than having a straig kk.. or dd..
2016-10-13 17:05 Stefan: *straight
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: it's just better emphasis
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: because you can hear the sound
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: going from up to down
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: but you can keep the dkdkd
2016-10-13 17:05 Lost The Lights: not saying its bad
2016-10-13 17:06 Stefan: It acutally goes up on 00:11:955 - and 00:12:101 -
2016-10-13 17:07 Stefan: Well, I won't change it
2016-10-13 17:07 Stefan: But
2016-10-13 17:07 Stefan: if Ari (or Ntiger, depends who's first) says something, I will.
2016-10-13 17:08 Lost The Lights: alright
2016-10-13 17:11 Lost The Lights: 00:45:101 - 00:45:394 - same thing I said about the finisher
2016-10-13 17:12 Lost The Lights: that's it tbh
2016-10-13 17:12 Lost The Lights: there's not much wrong
2016-10-13 17:13 Stefan: kk
2016-10-13 17:13 Stefan: Done here.
2016-10-13 17:13 Lost The Lights: alright
Diva Days
oh!

same mode but another map.. looks like u rank this first :3

nvm. if u want to see my map, here : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/522403
frukoyurdakul
Hi, m4m promise from vulkin's queue. Sorry for the late mod.

Vulkin's Kantan
00:37:491 - You can maybe add a kat here. There is already a gap of 2/1.

00:48:174 - ^

00:50:369 - ^

00:55:199 - Kat will sound good at this place, since there is a drum attack.

01:05:589 - Since this part is the kiai part, i think you can make it denser. So, i recommend adding a don here.

01:11:589 - A kat here maybe?

01:12:759 - A don here?

01:24:467 - Maybe adding a kat will be a good for the outro of the song.

I couldn't find anything wrong about Futsuu.

Muzukashii
00:06:759 - You can add a don here to support the keyboard(ish) sound. And it also supports the density of the notes too.

00:19:052 (92,93) - Maybe kkk will fit well here.

00:19:638 (95) - While the music is the same of the rest of it, you need to delete this note because you skipped the same note in 00:21:979 - here, 00:24:320 - here and so on.

00:47:003 (197,198,199,200) - You can reverse the colors of these notes, since 00:47:150 (198,199,200) - these are on snare sounds and the other is on a kick sound.

Oni
00:05:150 - You can snap this SV change onto 00:05:296 (28) - this note. And it should be 0.9x due to smooth SV change, because you increased 0.02x on 1/2 space and increased 0.02 at 1/1 space. Making it 0.9x will solve the problem. If you accept, 00:05:442 - this will be unneccesary.

00:09:467 - The volume change on this pattern looks weird. 00:09:613 (59) - This note is on 40% volume and the next one is 80%. I recommend changing 00:09:540 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - these volumes to all 80%.

00:10:052 - Since there is not a note on it, the SV change is unneccesary.

00:19:052 (132,133) - How about changing these to a 1/4 kkk? It will fit considering the snare sounds on drums.

00:23:589 (162) - Changing this to kat will support the snare sound, and the music on that note is higher than 00:23:662 (163,164) - those two.

00:29:735 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - I think you can reverse the colors of these notes since the kats are holding the kick sound and the finishers hold the hi-hat sounds.

00:37:345 (235,236) - d-d and 00:37:638 (237,238,239,240,241) - kkkkk will fit better i think due to the snare sounds. If you accept this, 00:38:077 (242) - you can turn this finisher to DON to make some variety.

00:56:077 - How about changing the volume to 80% here? The music is going louder at this section.

01:01:199 (408,409,410) - I recommend kkk here, since the cymbals are strong.

01:03:613 (427) - You can change this to kat to support higher vocals and make some variety.

01:24:247 - This inherited point is unneccesary.

01:24:833 - ^

01:25:052 - ^. And you can add a slider here but that's optional.

Solid mapset, good luck~
Vulkin

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hi, m4m promise from vulkin's queue. Sorry for the late mod. Late answer here too ;_;

Vulkin's Kantan
00:37:491 - You can maybe add a kat here. There is already a gap of 2/1. 00:37:638 - added a kat here instead, feels better here

00:48:174 - ^ ok

00:50:369 - ^ 00:50:516 - sounds better here, but a d instead for variabilty and consistency with previous point

00:55:199 - Kat will sound good at this place, since there is a drum attack. ok

01:05:589 - Since this part is the kiai part, i think you can make it denser. So, i recommend adding a don here.Sounds kinda weird to me, plus too many dons in that specific part imo,but ill add a k at 01:05:735 -

01:11:589 - A kat here maybe? no, theyre breaks for the outro, and increases SR over 2 ;_;

01:12:759 - A don here? same as above

01:24:467 - Maybe adding a kat will be a good for the outro of the song. no, has consistency with the intro 00:14:223 -

Solid mapset, good luck~ thanks so much for the mod lol
Im really sorry for taking this long to reply a mod ;_;
been kinda forgetful lately so my bad, ill try for this to not to happen again

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Aisha
hi~ m4m for Vulkin

[Vulkin's Kantan]

Desactiva el Widescreen Support!
deberías dejar un par más de 4/1, si bien está re fácil, ayudan mucho al player de kantan a acostumbrarse
00:00:614 (1,2,3,4) - me gusta cómo suena un kddk en esas 4, pero up to you :3
00:08:516 (8) - sé que esta nota es para darle énfasis a la siguiente, pero me suena muy raro (no pillo ningún sonido ahí D:)
00:09:979 (10,17) - K maybe?
00:31:052 (42,43) - k k también
00:33:394 (46,47) - ^
00:35:735 (49,50) - ^
en el kiai un comentario general: me enredé acá, si sigues los vocals podrías hacer un par de 4/1 más (01:01:491 (88) - borrar, por ejemplo), sólo como comentario :3
igual en general está bien, lo que sí, puta que me enredo con los círculos en tick rojo y cambiando, sé que es por el timing, pero bueno.

Good luck with this!:D
Vulkin

xfraczynho wrote:

hi~ m4m for Vulkin

[Vulkin's Kantan]

Desactiva el Widescreen Support! OK
deberías dejar un par más de 4/1, si bien está re fácil, ayudan mucho al player de kantan a acostumbrarse borre algunas pocas
00:00:614 (1,2,3,4) - me gusta cómo suena un kddk en esas 4, pero up to you :3 no me gusto a mi, queria hacerla una diferencia
00:08:516 (8) - sé que esta nota es para darle énfasis a la siguiente, pero me suena muy raro (no pillo ningún sonido ahí D:) sep es para el enfasis, por tanto que quiera borrarla, quiero dar como una advertencia que se viene lo intenso
00:09:979 (10,17) - K maybe? nah
00:31:052 (42,43) - k k también ok
00:33:394 (46,47) - ^ ok
00:35:735 (49,50) - ^ bueno ;_;
en el kiai un comentario general: me enredé acá, si sigues los vocals podrías hacer un par de 4/1 más (01:01:491 (88) - borrar, por ejemplo), sólo como comentario :3 ahi borre una nota, pero no esa
igual en general está bien, lo que sí, puta que me enredo con los círculos en tick rojo y cambiando, sé que es por el timing, pero bueno. eso fue un problema de cuando empece a mappearlo xd

Good luck with this!:D arigatouu <3
Update dad
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Topic Starter
Stefan
Despair

Updated Kantan Difficulty, changed Source, updated Tags, made some changes in my difficulties (very minor stuff, not mentionable).
Pachiru
Oh yeah! Please Stefan rank it! Wish you all the luck for it! :)
Arrival
Hey Stefan

[Kantan]

Seems good !

[Futsuu]

00:09:101 (26) - Let a 1/1 break before the next note, most of all since there is a SV speed up. Same for the last slider (01:14:809 (230) - )

[Muzukashii]

00:37:638 - What about a triplet k here ?

00:45:979 - ^

00:56:662 (239) - k here seems necessary for the emphasis on 00:56:809 (240) -

[Oni]

00:55:199 (366,367,368,369,370,371,372) - kdkdkdk is really unfitting. kkddddk would seems way more appropriate.

01:09:687 (470,471,472) - These should be finisher to at least ensure consistency with 01:00:321 (403,404,405) - . They can stay as don though.

Call me back !
frukoyurdakul
from p/5808000

Hi, m4m promise from vulkin's queue. Sorry for the late mod.

Vulkin's Kantan
00:37:491 - You can maybe add a kat here. There is already a gap of 2/1.

00:48:174 - ^

00:50:369 - ^

00:55:199 - Kat will sound good at this place, since there is a drum attack.

01:05:589 - Since this part is the kiai part, i think you can make it denser. So, i recommend adding a don here.

01:11:589 - A kat here maybe?

01:12:759 - A don here?

01:24:467 - Maybe adding a kat will be a good for the outro of the song.

I couldn't find anything wrong about Futsuu.

Muzukashii
00:06:759 - You can add a don here to support the keyboard(ish) sound. And it also supports the density of the notes too.

00:19:052 (92,93) - Maybe kkk will fit well here.

00:19:638 (95) - While the music is the same of the rest of it, you need to delete this note because you skipped the same note in 00:21:979 - here, 00:24:320 - here and so on.

00:47:003 (197,198,199,200) - You can reverse the colors of these notes, since 00:47:150 (198,199,200) - these are on snare sounds and the other is on a kick sound.

Oni
00:05:150 - You can snap this SV change onto 00:05:296 (28) - this note. And it should be 0.9x due to smooth SV change, because you increased 0.02x on 1/2 space and increased 0.02 at 1/1 space. Making it 0.9x will solve the problem. If you accept, 00:05:442 - this will be unneccesary.

00:09:467 - The volume change on this pattern looks weird. 00:09:613 (59) - This note is on 40% volume and the next one is 80%. I recommend changing 00:09:540 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - these volumes to all 80%.

00:10:052 - Since there is not a note on it, the SV change is unneccesary.

00:19:052 (132,133) - How about changing these to a 1/4 kkk? It will fit considering the snare sounds on drums.

00:23:589 (162) - Changing this to kat will support the snare sound, and the music on that note is higher than 00:23:662 (163,164) - those two.

00:29:735 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - I think you can reverse the colors of these notes since the kats are holding the kick sound and the finishers hold the hi-hat sounds.

00:37:345 (235,236) - d-d and 00:37:638 (237,238,239,240,241) - kkkkk will fit better i think due to the snare sounds. If you accept this, 00:38:077 (242) - you can turn this finisher to DON to make some variety.

00:56:077 - How about changing the volume to 80% here? The music is going louder at this section.

01:01:199 (408,409,410) - I recommend kkk here, since the cymbals are strong.

01:03:613 (427) - You can change this to kat to support higher vocals and make some variety.

01:24:247 - This inherited point is unneccesary.

01:24:833 - ^

01:25:052 - ^. And you can add a slider here but that's optional.

Solid mapset, good luck~
Topic Starter
Stefan

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Muzukashii
00:06:759 - You can add a don here to support the keyboard(ish) sound. And it also supports the density of the notes too. Moved 00:07:931 - to 00:06:760 - , sounds better to me.

00:19:052 (92,93) - Maybe kkk will fit well here. Nah.. I am fairly certain the previous triplets and combo lenght of the pattern are "hard"
enough and emphasize the most we need.


00:19:638 (95) - While the music is the same of the rest of it, you need to delete this note because you skipped the same note in 00:21:979 - here, 00:24:320 - here and so on. That is a legit argument, removed.

00:47:003 (197,198,199,200) - You can reverse the colors of these notes, since 00:47:150 (198,199,200) - these are on snare sounds and the other is on a kick sound. Done.

Oni
00:05:150 - You can snap this SV change onto 00:05:296 (28) - this note. And it should be 0.9x due to smooth SV change, because you increased 0.02x on 1/2 space and increased 0.02 at 1/1 space. Making it 0.9x will solve the problem. If you accept, 00:05:442 - this will be unneccesary. ya

00:09:467 - The volume change on this pattern looks weird. 00:09:613 (59) - This note is on 40% volume and the next one is 80%. I recommend changing 00:09:540 (58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - these volumes to all 80%. Done.

00:10:052 - Since there is not a note on it, the SV change is unneccesary. I will just keep it for volume purposes.

00:19:052 (132,133) - How about changing these to a 1/4 kkk? It will fit considering the snare sounds on drums. I prefer the d - k switch more over triplet usage.

00:23:589 (162) - Changing this to kat will support the snare sound, and the music on that note is higher than 00:23:662 (163,164) - those two. I don't think the snare sound is really present here. keeping it as ddd.

00:29:735 (201,202,203,204,205,206,207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230) - I think you can reverse the colors of these notes since the kats are holding the kick sound and the finishers hold the hi-hat sounds. I don't really agree here. For this case I find kat more appropriate to play, don sounds too deep.

00:37:345 (235,236) - d-d and 00:37:638 (237,238,239,240,241) - kkkkk will fit better i think due to the snare sounds. If you accept this, 00:38:077 (242) - you can turn this finisher to DON to make some variety. Sound-wise

00:56:077 - How about changing the volume to 80% here? The music is going louder at this section. I actually find it's a bit calmer, didn't change.

01:01:199 (408,409,410) - I recommend kkk here, since the cymbals are strong. While your suggestion is valid I rather go with the ddk rhythm.

01:03:613 (427) - You can change this to kat to support higher vocals and make some variety. Meh, the D has more impact if it goes about me.

01:24:247 - This inherited point is unneccesary. Removed.

01:24:833 - ^ And removed.

01:25:052 - ^. And you can add a slider here but that's optional. Ah well, 01:24:906 - is good as end.

Solid mapset, good luck~

Arrival wrote:

Hey Stefan

[Kantan]

Seems good !

[Futsuu]

00:09:101 (26) - Let a 1/1 break before the next note, most of all since there is a SV speed up. Same for the last slider (01:14:809 (230) - ) yap

[Muzukashii]

00:37:638 - What about a triplet k here ? I find that the single kat note sounds stronger than "forcing" a triplet here.

00:45:979 - ^ ~

00:56:662 (239) - k here seems necessary for the emphasis on 00:56:809 (240) - Done.

[Oni]

00:55:199 (366,367,368,369,370,371,372) - kdkdkdk is really unfitting. kkddddk would seems way more appropriate. I did kkkdddk instead.

01:09:687 (470,471,472) - These should be finisher to at least ensure consistency with 01:00:321 (403,404,405) - . They can stay as don though. Aye Aye

Call me back !
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Arrival
Oni's HP has been set to 5 for spread.

Bubbled
Vulkin

Arrival wrote:

Hey Stefan

[Kantan]

Seems good !
*Vulkin Intensifies*

frukoyurdakul wrote:

from p/5808000

Hi, m4m promise from vulkin's queue. Sorry for the late mod.

Vulkin's Kantan
00:37:491 - You can maybe add a kat here. There is already a gap of 2/1. Next note is on 1/2, so no

00:48:174 - ^ Theres note already LOL

00:50:369 - ^next note 1/2

00:55:199 - Kat will sound good at this place, since there is a drum attack. already k

01:05:589 - Since this part is the kiai part, i think you can make it denser. So, i recommend adding a don here. Trying to make a break there, even if its kiai, i dont want to risk the novice player from getting confused

01:11:589 - A kat here maybe? Pitch from this note is different than the next one, no

01:12:759 - A don here? 01:12:028 (111,112) - are same pitch, no change

01:24:467 - Maybe adding a kat will be a good for the outro of the song. I think its fine just as it is

Solid mapset, good luck~
No change, sorry ;_; But i fixed a silly little mistake on my diff (01:23:296 (128) - made k for consistency with intro)
Small Update
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Surono
:khantong:
03:41 Surono: kwok
03:41 Stefan: hi hi
03:42 *Surono is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/902305 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation]
03:42 Stefan: o
03:42 Surono: me rank this, eh but why vulkin postd after bub.. dem
03:42 Stefan: It actually was to change a note to k.
03:42 Stefan: I was asking him what exactly he changed
03:42 Stefan: and it was this after all.
03:44 Surono: 01:15:394 - dem missing 1 slider tick... 01:15:412 - end here the slider pls so 9tick
03:47 Stefan: aa, dced
03:47 Surono: dem
03:47 Stefan: For what difficulty did you write that?
03:48 Surono: yeah ur diff. muzu futsuu
03:48 Stefan: Ah
03:48 Surono: the only sliders there
03:48 Surono: 00:20:809 - want add kat for muzu, every spot here? oke just it. dem..
03:48 Surono: 1/16 snap dem... the end of slider
03:56 Stefan: I will take care for them, have to go quick.
03:56 Surono: ok.

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Topic Starter
Stefan
Fan
tas
tic

<3 really happy, thanks!
Chaoslitz
wow two dr maps in qualified section

gratz!
Snowy Heat
really loved it since it was uploaded
suuuuuch a great map omg
gratz~
zigizigiefe
Congratz Stefan and Vulkin
sorry for being late
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hello Stefan, I would like to give some suggestions regarding note structure and the lack of rest moments in Muzukashii.

  • [Muzukashii]
  1. From 00:32:955 to 01:24:906 - there is no 2/1 break within this 52-second pattern chain, which would be a bit demanding for intermediate players.
  2. 00:33:979 - consider adding d here to follow the vocal as you did at 00:29:296 - for pattern consistency ?
  3. 00:57:979 (244) - maybe k to reflect the pitch decrease across 00:57:979 (244,245,246) - ?
  4. 01:06:467 - similar to 00:33:979 - , you may add d here to keep it the same as 00:57:101 (239) - . In this way the kiai would be more intuitive to play.
  5. 01:14:809 (316) - you may start this slider at 01:14:955 - to leave a 2/1 break as the kiai ends. This could help players to recover from the relatively dense kiai and prepare for the next patterns. You may do the same for Futsuu if you agree with this.
The mapset is good in general and the intention to give 2/1 rest moments is known as evidenced by 00:28:711 and 00:32:370 - , but I think you can consider doing that as well in the rest of the difficulty. Let me know if you want to make changes.
Topic Starter
Stefan
For the points relating to the lack of 2/1 breaks: I do agree that the Muzukashii difficulty has very few 2/1 breaks, however.. The map uses 2/2 breaks (I am unsure if that's the correct definition, just check the distance between parts like 01:14:370 (229,230) - or 01:13:199 (224,225) - in case I am wrong). The nature of the song works much better with that sort of break, you were mentioning about 00:28:711 and 00:32:370 - while these two parts are exceptions for the song where 2/1 breaks works better than 2/2 breaks.

For 00:33:979 - I see the reason, yet I consider to skip this note because the flow sounds more natural from my side. I also find that 00:28:711 - 00:33:248 - and 00:33:394 - 00:37:931 - plays differently from the vocal follow may be appropriate to be mapped slightly different in a Muzukashii difficulty.

01:06:467 - works similar to 00:33:979 - but additionally I wanted to have a brighter break (by having nothing on 01:06:467 - ) and some rest time from 01:05:296 (272,273,274,275,276,277,278) - .

For 00:57:979 (244) - I find the way I've mapped with switching d k notes (00:57:540 (240,241,242,243,244,245) - for example) good, vocals have a higher tone on 00:58:272 (244) - instead of 00:57:979 (243) - and d k d emphasize it better for my case.
Nardoxyribonucleic
Disqualified upon creator's request to transform the set into ENHIX for a more balanced spread after some discussion with Stefan.

IRC log with Stefan, May 17, 2017
20:53 Stefan: \o
20:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: o/
20:54 Stefan: p/6019881 Just replied back
20:54 Stefan: If there's anything else, let me know
20:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: 3/2 breaks like 01:14:370 - and 1/1 gap like 01:13:199 - are not effective breaks for Muzukashii due to its length
20:55 Nardoxyribonucleic: as the main snap is 1/2+1/4 in Muzukashii
20:56 Nardoxyribonucleic: or 1/1+1/2 with occasionally 1/4
20:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: so 1/1 is not regarded as a break, but a connection in a pattern chain
20:57 Stefan: 3/2 is what works better for this song, and I do agree for 1/1
20:57 Stefan: But considering that Oni is also pretty dense some balancing between all three difficulties (Futsuu~Oni) needs to exist
20:59 Stefan: Breaks do exist enough in Muzukashii imo and stays in contrast to Oni
21:01 Stefan: The song works a lot with 1/2 rhythm, vocal and bgm wise
21:01 Stefan: That's why I've used 3/2 breaks, because these are the most natural breaks for such a song
21:02 Stefan: but not too big that sounds unnatural again
21:02 Stefan: but also not too close that it makes too dense.
21:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: My main point is that a 3/2 gap is not long enough to count as an effective break for this level of difficulty. I do agree that the song itself favours such a pattern arrangement, but gameplay-wise 3/2 is still continuous
21:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: Take 01:15:540 - 01:24:906 - this session as an example, these breaks still keep you busy in preparing the next patterns without having a true rest
21:07 Stefan: I don't see how 3/2 breaks aren't but 2/1 are.
21:07 Nardoxyribonucleic: Probably due to the length itself as well as the change in polarity of ticks
21:07 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/JgNOzXh5.png to https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/QxPuVow5.png
21:08 Stefan: second provides for that case something more complicated after the break
21:08 Stefan: While first is easier but more constant to play.
21:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: That is not complicated as the first one. 1/2 notes are something expected in this difficulty
21:08 Nardoxyribonucleic: as the main snaps
21:10 Nardoxyribonucleic: while the first pic of notes with 3/2 + 1/1, which is in fact more varied.
21:10 Stefan: But that'd mean that I have to nerf Futsuu even further, because that's the difficulty which uses 2/1 as their main breaks.
21:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yes, you may do so, especially when Futsuu have twice amount of notes compared to Kantan.
21:12 Stefan: That'd mean to change two technical decent difficulties for the biggest part.
21:13 Stefan: I am not sure if that's right.
21:13 Stefan: I agree that Futsuu and Muzukashii are harder than the average
21:13 Stefan: But still plays like difficulties of their level.
21:15 Nardoxyribonucleic: Yes, but relative to how simple patterns are arranged in Kantan and the relatively plenty amount of 4/1 breaks, the hardness of Futsuu and Muzukashii could be readjusted
21:16 Nardoxyribonucleic: I am willing to help if you want to do this for a better spread. The required changes are not that many after all.
21:17 Stefan: The only thing I can think off what works the best is to put something between Kantan and Futsuu.
21:17 Stefan: because
21:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: Also what I mentioned in the post is only about adding one more 2/1 break in Muzukashii.
21:18 Stefan: I don't consider Futsuu~Oni to be nerfed that throws the structure of the map completely.
21:19 Stefan: While I agree and understand that the gap between Futsuu and Kantan is indeed bigger compared to the rest.
21:20 Nardoxyribonucleic: The large gap between Kantan and Futsuu itself is already something that is worth readjusted indeed.
21:21 Stefan: Like said, an additonal difficulty (which is between the current Kantan and Futsuu) sounds the best way to solve.
21:21 Nardoxyribonucleic: In short, you need to simplify some notes in Futsuu to improve the spread from Kantan to Muzukashii and add a bit more 2/1 rests in Muzukashii
21:22 Stefan: That would technically solve the issues you're bringing for Muzukashii (and Futsuu too)
21:22 Nardoxyribonucleic: I do not think addition of a difficulty is necessary in this case
21:23 Stefan: Kantan itself has very few room to "buff" due the stupid 2* rule
21:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm... Whatever. If you want to do that, making a ENHIX spread would be another option.
21:24 Nardoxyribonucleic: I would say no difficulty increase is needed for Kantan
21:24 Stefan: Yeah, just something between Futsuu/Kantan
21:25 Stefan: That looks imo more profitable than changing Futsuu/Muzukashii largely.
21:26 Nardoxyribonucleic: If you decide to do so, make sure to raise the difficulty of current Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni while keeping corresponding number of 2/1 current Futsuu possesses as the new Muzukashii
21:27 Stefan: How so
21:27 Stefan: Futsuu is already above 3*
21:28 Stefan: That is pretty typical for a Muzukashii
21:28 Stefan: And Futsuu~Oni feels constant from the difficulty increase.
21:28 Nardoxyribonucleic: I mean, the 3* Futsuu you have has sufficient number of 2/1 breaks currently.
21:29 Stefan: Okay.
21:29 Nardoxyribonucleic: You just need to upgrade it into Muzukashii by adding some 1/2 notes
21:29 Stefan: Oh
21:29 Stefan: Uh.. well I guess that could be done.
21:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: Then you can probably do this: change the set to ENHIX spread: Add a simpler Futsuu, make old Futsuu, Muzukashii and Oni harder.
21:34 Stefan: yes
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: For lower difficulties (ENH), Vulkin's Kantan could remain unchanged. Keep plenty of 2/1 or longer breaks in Futsuu and some 2/1 breaks in Muzukashii
21:37 Stefan: Aight
21:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: If you agree with these, you may ask for a disqualification now to get these done :3
21:37 Stefan: mmmmh, do you do the DQ? Or who else should I ask
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm, I think I could DQ upon request
21:39 Stefan: Well, you can do this rn
21:40 Stefan: so I can take care for it asap
21:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: Alright.

Good luck for now. You may ask me for a complete mod when you get this done.
Snowy Heat
oh shit
please do not make us wait for too long again with this ;www;
i just love the set so much, please kill me
Arrival
Well that was surprising. You can also ask me when you finished it.
Vulkin
rip qualify
oh well, ill take this opportunity to fix some things on my kantan that i forgot

EDIT: Discussed some stuff with Surono about some parts, and made a few changes on my own to improve the quality of it
Hopefully its a bit less painful to play
(if its over 2* i swear ill kill this pc because it shows 1.96 here)

Update
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272,192,78613,1,8,0:0:0:0:
272,192,79052,1,12,0:0:0:0:
272,192,80223,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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272,192,81394,1,12,0:0:0:0:
272,192,82125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,82564,1,12,0:0:0:0:
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272,192,83735,1,12,0:0:0:0:
272,192,84906,1,4,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Stefan

Arrival wrote:

Well that was surprising. You can also ask me when you finished it.
Thank you a lot, I appreciate this help and will consider it when we're really ready.

Hitsu wrote:

oh shit
please do not make us wait for too long again with this ;www;
i just love the set so much, please kill me
doing my best!

Vulkin: Gonna update whenever Nardo and I get in talk again and how we should proceed since I may not do a 5th difficulty but to nerf Muzukashii/Futsuu.
Surono
nardo and stefan pro.. dem vulkin oke diff!
sry for dem english simple lul. will try to mod if nardo postd the mod, since I didnt full mod for this map.
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hmm, so you decide to simplify Futsuu and Muzukashii instead of making a new difficulty, which is also fine.

IRC mod with Stefan, May 20, 2017
19:37 Stefan: Alright. So I've been trying to map a 5th difficulty - between current Kantan and Futsuu. But that didn't go very well.. and I sorta struggle with it. Nevertheless I think because I had to change Futsuu/Muzukashii anyways, I think I will just go with your idea to nerf Futsuu/Muzukashii instead.
19:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay.
19:38 Stefan: Also because I barely buffed these two diffs I think that's the better decision to nerf them instead.
19:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm going to provide some suggestions to simplify Futsuu first
19:40 Stefan: okay
19:43 Stefan: Oh right
19:43 Stefan: Vulkin did update some things
19:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:02:662 (6) - consider deleting this note? Seeing that Kantan only has 4/1 notes, so it would be better to remove some in the prelude
19:43 Stefan: together with Surono
19:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm?
19:43 Nardoxyribonucleic: Oh, did you update it?
19:44 Stefan: not yet, gonna do this quick
19:46 Stefan: and done
19:47 Nardoxyribonucleic: Back to the topic then
19:48 Stefan: yes
19:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:02:662 (6,12,13,15,20,21) - I think these notes could be deleted
19:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: The current note density is rather similar to Muzukashii while the gap with Kantan is too big
19:52 Stefan: I see what you mean.. okay, doing changes here
19:52 Stefan: removing stuff mostly
19:57 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:16:418 (44) - this note could be removed as well since there is no density increase in Kantan and Muzukashii at this part
20:00 Stefan: done
20:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: Oh, I'm gonna have my dinner first, brb
20:04 Stefan: Okay!
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: I'm back!
20:18 Stefan: welcome back~
20:18 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:23:882 (66) - maybe k as you did in Muzukashii for consistency?
20:20 Stefan: Jup
20:20 Stefan: I used to have that part in every diff as dd
20:20 Stefan: but got changed over time.
20:31 Nardoxyribonucleic: From 00:38:077 - to 00:47:443 - maybe try something like this to improve the spread from Kantan to Muzukashii? https://puu.sh/vVUbt.jpg (cursor at 00:42:760 - )
20:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: Kantan barely has any 1/1 notes, so it would be better to use fewer 1/2 in Futsuu
20:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: The suggestion is made with reference to how your Muzukashii is mapped
20:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Hmm what do you think?
20:39 Stefan: Ah sorry, was sorta busy minutes ago
20:39 Stefan: mmmh lets see
20:40 Nardoxyribonucleic: In this way the snaps are easier to follow as well
20:48 Stefan: Okay
20:48 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/OjFLAG3W.png that's what I did.
20:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:49:492 (137) - delete and remove the finish at 00:49:784 (138) - ?
20:49 Nardoxyribonucleic: the former is for spread while the latter for consistency
20:49 Stefan: Okay.
20:52 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:52:711 (146) - 00:53:882 (150) - 00:55:053 (154) - remove ? Kantan is rather simple here
20:54 Stefan: jup, removed all of them
20:56 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:03:540 (177,178) - you may swap these notes to k d as you did in Muzukashii
20:57 Stefan: yep, sounds also right to Oni
20:59 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:04:272 (179,180,181) - ctrl+G and delete the middle note ?
21:00 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/0j0Peo6W.png that?
21:00 Nardoxyribonucleic: yes
21:01 Stefan: mmmh, I prefer to have d k here
21:01 Stefan: But I removed the note in the mid anyway
21:01 Nardoxyribonucleic: okay
21:03 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:13:784 (212) - same as ^
21:03 Stefan: Oki
21:05 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:17:296 (222) - 01:21:979 (240) - same as before
21:06 Stefan: jup, looks okay.
21:06 Stefan: 2.65* now
21:06 Stefan: lmao
21:06 Nardoxyribonucleic: I guess that's all for Futsuu
21:08 *Nardoxyribonucleic is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/902307 suzumu feat.soraru - Zetsubousei: Hero Chiryouyaku The Animation [Muzukashii]]
21:11 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:42:760 (178) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
21:12 Nardoxyribonucleic: You have one in Futsuu and Oni
21:12 Stefan: Looks like that, added.
21:17 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:05:589 (275,276,277,278) - kkk d instead of d kkk for the background 1/4 drums?
21:22 Stefan: It sorta feels right the way it is atm. to put the triplet earlier sounds misplaced to me
21:22 Stefan: But that are just my thoughts.
21:23 Nardoxyribonucleic: 01:14:809 (316) - as mentioned in the previous mod, I think this slider could start at 01:14:955 - , simply for a 2/1 rest after the kiai
21:25 Nardoxyribonucleic: This break could result in a contrast with the ordinary breaks like 01:15:540 - 01:16:711 - etc. as well
21:29 Stefan: mmh, okay.
21:30 Nardoxyribonucleic: Oh, please do it for Futsuu as well then
21:30 Stefan: Did that already. w
21:31 Nardoxyribonucleic: Okay, then we have come to the last problem
21:32 Nardoxyribonucleic: Muzukashii and Oni has a 200-note gap, while other gaps are only ~100
21:33 Nardoxyribonucleic: I would recommend renaming the current Oni into Inner Oni and making a new Oni from it with about 470 notes
21:34 Nardoxyribonucleic: Otherwise you may need to simplify the current one down to 550 notes
21:35 Nardoxyribonucleic: Either way. Just to make sure density difference is not too significant
21:36 Stefan: While I do understand that a constant gap is important for a mapset, the gap of note differences between the difficulties may be a subjective issue
21:37 Nardoxyribonucleic: Well. Note differences could also reflect complexity difference in certain extent
21:37 Stefan: The Oni difficulty plays like one, the only thing I could nerf would be the longer part at the early stage
21:37 Stefan: 00:09:101 (53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64) - that to be exact
21:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Sure thing
21:38 Nardoxyribonucleic: Also you may consider removing notes like 00:01:199 (4,11,18) -
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: for calm parts like this
21:39 Nardoxyribonucleic: sparser patterns may work
21:46 Nardoxyribonucleic: 00:04:711 - you may remove this unused timing point
21:46 Stefan: okay uh.. I updated stuff at first, just to have them saved. Did some changes in the 2nd half of the Kiai in Oni
21:47 Stefan: And I kept this line for the volume changes
21:48 Stefan: since people tend to tap for some ms earlier so they'd have 60% for 00:09:540 - otherwise.
21:48 Nardoxyribonucleic: There is no note at 00:04:711 - now for the SV change
21:49 Stefan: It doesn't do anything anyway but okay, changed to the previous SV (0.92)
21:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: I mean [https://puu.sh/vVX3h.png this one]
21:50 Stefan: O
21:50 Nardoxyribonucleic: the highlighted timing point
21:50 Stefan: I am dumb :thinking2:
21:51 Stefan: removed
21:54 Nardoxyribonucleic: I think that's all for now. You may still make minor fixes if you like. You may call me back for a recheck after that.

You may call me back for a recheck after that~ :D
Surono
check,.

>kantan
* 00:09:101 - spinner

>Futsuu
* 00:07:638 (16,17) - ctrl g
* 00:07:638 (16,17) - ~ 00:19:345 - Suggestion to make it balance and variety: 00:11:589 (26,27,28,29) - d d kd, 00:13:784 - dd and apply for similar part
* 01:15:248 - end here

>Muzukashii
* 00:37:638 - add here kkk 1/4 at least because in here is a bit close with futsuu and oni has longstream
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