wait, do you not believe that public property should exist? I'd rather not have to pay a tollbooth for every 100m I walk on the street my dude
B1rd has said in the past that he would absolutely support having everything, including Police and Fire Departments, being privately owned.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Would you also support a privately-owned and paid for police force? Fire department? Other community services like those?
cuz fuck leftistsEndaris wrote:
How can we improve capitalism without exposing ourselves as filthy leftists?
Endaris wrote:
How can we improve capitalism without exposing ourselves as filthy leftists?
Argumentum ad populum.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
I just think you put far too much faith in private ownership to be SIGNIFICANTLY better than government ownership. In some ways it can be better, in some ways worse, most people understand and agree with that concept. Where do you get the idea that privatised ownership of resources would be so *significantly* better?
Would you also support a privately-owned and paid for police force? Fire department? Other community services like those?
and the three above you are also cancerMahogany wrote:
right is cancer
Nevermind the fact that actually reforming these prisoners would actively damage their income. It's in their best interest to have as many prisoners as possible, so you bet they're going to do all they can to keep prisoners from reintegration into society, and try all they can to keep them locked up as long as possible.Railey2 wrote:
Clearly they don't, because its not as profitable as say.. to just make a deal with a company from the outside and let people work for below min wage in prison - without any focus on improving their situation.
Only you would link this in response to "Most people can see that there are pros and cons" lolB1rd wrote:
Argumentum ad populum.
I think I'm gonna be sickDaddyCoolVipper wrote:
okay I'm definitely gonna be sickZain Sugieres wrote:
How about we talk about Ajit Pai and the net neutrality stuff in the US right now
You can confirm it for yourself by clicking the link provided in it and seeing the massive list of bot comments, yesRoseusJaeger wrote:
is that article even reliable?
But it does sound plausible.
Your morbid attachment to B1rd is hilariousMahogany wrote:
B1rd has said in the past that he would absolutely support having everything, including Police and Fire Departments, being privately owned.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Would you also support a privately-owned and paid for police force? Fire department? Other community services like those?
Having the military privately owned without a government backed military would be a disaster.Mahogany wrote:
B1rd has said in the past that he would absolutely support having everything, including Police and Fire Departments, being privately owned.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Would you also support a privately-owned and paid for police force? Fire department? Other community services like those?
I love these. The recurring taco truck is honestly the best.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
America vs Scandinavia isn't a good example of Capitalism vs Socialism as it's made out to be. Scandinavian countries have far less crime, a homogenous white population. Nationalise the prisons if you want, but try implementing the same policies and the same level of funding per prisoner and you're gonna be in for a rough time, probably bankrupt the nation.DaddyCoolVipper wrote:
Only you would link this in response to "Most people can see that there are pros and cons" lol
also, Mahogany's point is interesting, considering that prisoner slavery is legal in the US, which has a notoriously awful prison system/high re-offender rates. Prisons in some European companies are "luxurious", and guess what, they end up reforming people a lot better.
But those just wouldn't be profitable, now, would they? Sure, they benefit society overall, but there's no way a private prison would shell out all that money to improve people's well-being if they didn't have to. This is the core reasoning behind "Private doesn't necessarily mean good"- profitability isn't necessarily maximum benefit for society overall, far from it, and generally leads to massive inequality until things escalate to the point where the rich are overthrown in revolution.
Same applies for when states misuse their power in general. Privatization offers no more protection from this. "Competition exists therefore the system will become perfect in order to survive" isn't a valid argument when competition can't necessarily exist for everything.
A private police force would be fucking retarded for a few reasons, namely the fact that you could just pay them as much as they wanted and get off of any crime scot-free. Especially true for large businesses that commit crimes on massive scale. They already do to some extent, but privatization of the police would essentially mean that instead of having a police force, you'd just end up with a bunch of henchmen of whichever corporations are the richest. How could you see that coming when you made your initial argument?
because political shit still falls under the umbrella of the current titleMara wrote:
So, why haven't mods renamed this thread into "ITT: We post political shit"?