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Come on!
Hello HT players~
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Thanks everyone who helped me with this map!
LETS FUCKING GO
Congratz. I guess now is time to poke and prod at more heart sliders
im sorry but with all the respects can u bns who nominated this even pass the map!?!?!?!?
Topic Starter
This map doesn't execute any special techniques or controversal things, the only difficulty here is speed, while the map is being simple, so it's not that hard to judge even if you can't hit the streams.
Though I'm not sure if I should give a serious answer, so here's not serious version:
It's fine don't try to ruin mapping spirit!!!!
Though I'm not sure if I should give a serious answer, so here's not serious version:
It's fine don't try to ruin mapping spirit!!!!
what is this cancer
wtf///death stream
hype
04:48:225 (1) - I realize that this slider serves to cover a very long sound, but I clearly see some problems I just can't really reconcile.
The first issue I have is that of the fact that two separate hitsound inherited timing sections are used for the slider. You really don't need to split it into 15% volume and 5% volume; it's absolutely unnecessary. What would the 5% even serve to soften? The slider ticks? I can't imagine that being the reason, since slider ticks are not generally hitsounded. The end node of the slider? Why? On playback, I heard no meaningful difference. The custom hitsounds? People can set it to be ignored, so it isn't universal. All things considered, there is no reason for this volume change. Keep it at 15% or keep it at 5%. But there's no reason to do both.
The form of the slider is also questionable. What exactly were you trying to do? I see a heart, but what about the spikes? Are you trying to portray something like a knife or arrow through the heart? Because if that is so, it might be worth noting that the points have no angular perpendicularity that creates a regular polygonal outline or relief. The two parts on the right are not positioned or angled in a way that they form a closed object (sans rays) with the part on the left. If you went with a sharper bend in the beginning and end nodes, as well as a more pronounced dip at the bottom, it could be done more accurately, given a slower SV like 0.25 or 0.20 (Let's face it, you already had to crack open the .osu pretty much for the sake of getting 0.30, so this isn't much more difficult).
I also question if a slider is really the best fit here. I listened to the S-R about 50 times, and I swear that the only thing that would make sense here is a spinner (as a slider only captures wider dynamics like pitch shifting, slurs, or legato transitions). It's so stable in its sine wave that there isn't a call for the extensive articulation present. The note also ends a slight bit prematurely in the slider at 5:05:271 when it really ends at 5:05:413 (one 1/4 tick later). I turned up my headphones to the max, and I am 100% positive you end this one 1/4 tick too early.
I realize that this is in qualified, but I'm just giving my honest feedback. I really believe that you either need to rework the slider or use a spinner instead, and I know you have the wrong duration for that note.
The first issue I have is that of the fact that two separate hitsound inherited timing sections are used for the slider. You really don't need to split it into 15% volume and 5% volume; it's absolutely unnecessary. What would the 5% even serve to soften? The slider ticks? I can't imagine that being the reason, since slider ticks are not generally hitsounded. The end node of the slider? Why? On playback, I heard no meaningful difference. The custom hitsounds? People can set it to be ignored, so it isn't universal. All things considered, there is no reason for this volume change. Keep it at 15% or keep it at 5%. But there's no reason to do both.
The form of the slider is also questionable. What exactly were you trying to do? I see a heart, but what about the spikes? Are you trying to portray something like a knife or arrow through the heart? Because if that is so, it might be worth noting that the points have no angular perpendicularity that creates a regular polygonal outline or relief. The two parts on the right are not positioned or angled in a way that they form a closed object (sans rays) with the part on the left. If you went with a sharper bend in the beginning and end nodes, as well as a more pronounced dip at the bottom, it could be done more accurately, given a slower SV like 0.25 or 0.20 (Let's face it, you already had to crack open the .osu pretty much for the sake of getting 0.30, so this isn't much more difficult).
I also question if a slider is really the best fit here. I listened to the S-R about 50 times, and I swear that the only thing that would make sense here is a spinner (as a slider only captures wider dynamics like pitch shifting, slurs, or legato transitions). It's so stable in its sine wave that there isn't a call for the extensive articulation present. The note also ends a slight bit prematurely in the slider at 5:05:271 when it really ends at 5:05:413 (one 1/4 tick later). I turned up my headphones to the max, and I am 100% positive you end this one 1/4 tick too early.
I realize that this is in qualified, but I'm just giving my honest feedback. I really believe that you either need to rework the slider or use a spinner instead, and I know you have the wrong duration for that note.
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It starts on 15% because I want to make 04:48:225 - this sounds more audible, and then it goes lower to 5% so sliderslide sound won't be that loud.
You would know what is form of this slider if you tried to look at beatmap description. It's a heart pierced by trident, trident is a weapon character on background holds, and piercing a heart by it is just a reference to gameplay in Undertale, where you cave to control our soul with a shape of heart to not let it collide with other objects. Regarding shape: I don't quite understand what's the issue with it. It might be not very accurate but I don't find it problematic at all, it serves its purpose very well, and changing shape there or here just won't affect anything at all.
Spinner? On such a sound? Do you hear it? It's a very quiet fading sound, and you suggest me to place an object that requires active movement (spinning)? This doesn't make any sense, slider fits there much more because you just have to follow it, also it looks great.
05:05:271 - I ended the slider here because what goes from that point to 05:05:413 - is an echo of that fading sound when the sound itself lasts till 05:05:271 - . You might hear the echo but it doesn't mean I should map it, it will become just a redundant part of the slider for sake of mapping everything when it doesn't sound well.
You would know what is form of this slider if you tried to look at beatmap description. It's a heart pierced by trident, trident is a weapon character on background holds, and piercing a heart by it is just a reference to gameplay in Undertale, where you cave to control our soul with a shape of heart to not let it collide with other objects. Regarding shape: I don't quite understand what's the issue with it. It might be not very accurate but I don't find it problematic at all, it serves its purpose very well, and changing shape there or here just won't affect anything at all.
Spinner? On such a sound? Do you hear it? It's a very quiet fading sound, and you suggest me to place an object that requires active movement (spinning)? This doesn't make any sense, slider fits there much more because you just have to follow it, also it looks great.
05:05:271 - I ended the slider here because what goes from that point to 05:05:413 - is an echo of that fading sound when the sound itself lasts till 05:05:271 - . You might hear the echo but it doesn't mean I should map it, it will become just a redundant part of the slider for sake of mapping everything when it doesn't sound well.
You don't have to open the .osu to do non-standard SVs, you can edit them by changing the gamemode to Taiko to set your SVs and then changing it back to standard.[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
(Let's face it, you already had to crack open the .osu pretty much for the sake of getting 0.30, so this isn't much more difficult).
This is a nice map Kyubey, good job! (Also its nice to see a BLANKFIELD song getting ranked.)
How about a diff that us normal people can play. Show us some "Mercy". Cool to watch though.
Well, it appears to not matter anyways, because I just compared this map's MP3 with the official BLANKFIELD version MP3. You changed it.Kyubey wrote:
It starts on 15% because I want to make 04:48:225 - this sounds more audible, and then it goes lower to 5% so sliderslide sound won't be that loud.
You would know what is form of this slider if you tried to look at beatmap description. It's a heart pierced by trident, trident is a weapon character on background holds, and piercing a heart by it is just a reference to gameplay in Undertale, where you cave to control our soul with a shape of heart to not let it collide with other objects. Regarding shape: I don't quite understand what's the issue with it. It might be not very accurate but I don't find it problematic at all, it serves its purpose very well, and changing shape there or here just won't affect anything at all.
Spinner? On such a sound? Do you hear it? It's a very quiet fading sound, and you suggest me to place an object that requires active movement (spinning)? This doesn't make any sense, slider fits there much more because you just have to follow it, also it looks great.
05:05:271 - I ended the slider here because what goes from that point to 05:05:413 - is an echo of that fading sound when the sound itself lasts till 05:05:271 - . You might hear the echo but it doesn't mean I should map it, it will become just a redundant part of the slider for sake of mapping everything when it doesn't sound well.
The total duration of the song is 5:01. Now, there is not 5:01 worth of sound. At best, there is 4:57. I would know, I painstakingly checked the moment I was informed that you did this. It's 4:57 SOLID. No room for leniency or flexibility.
I've got to say this: I am so incredibly tired of this awful marathon rule. This rule was originally made when Osu had no real concrete understanding of how to determine what is fair or foul in maps. It was a rule made for a snowballing little community that kept making harder and harder maps and lacked a decent method to keep them in check. It's like a speed bump: "Slow down or else" is the message. This worked for a long time, but eventually, as player skill rose and strict adherence to the Ranking Criteria became imperative law, people started getting into a whole new problem.
People started cheating the system. One side of this was by judging maps by so incredibly fierce a supervision of the rules that people realized they could get low quality maps ranked as long as they didn't explicitly break the RC; I call this the Mazzerin Path. The other side of this is people who decided to sidestep the rules by artificially extending songs and convincing the BNs and QATs to overlook the "minor" slippery-slope infractions they had made; I call this the Monstrata Path. So, after a good few years, the system has once again become broken.
To any BNs and QATs who may see this, just axe this stupid 5 minute rule. It's clear that people will just circumvent it, and it's even clearer that you'll still qualify them regardless. 5 minute songs are quite rare, and using that ludicrous threshold as a goal post doesn't seem to be a viable answer anymore. 4:50, 4:30, 4:00, I don't care what the number easy. Just pick one, because 5:00 has run its course.
01:36:706 (5,1) - 
except that the volume change to the sliderslide doesnt even work, all it does is setting the tick volume to 5%, the slide stays at 15, if you want it to be 5% for both you need to change the sampleset because apparently sliderslides are kinda dumb
Topic Starter
Doesn't it? Well, in this case I can change the sampleset and make it working.
Yuii-: I understand you concerns but I wanted to keep the spacing same there, since the intensity of the music there is pretty same, therefore increasing the spacing wouldn't really fit. You might think it appears confusing but I belive that AR10 helps in this case, and also players that will be able to reach that place in the map should be experienced enough to read this pattern right.
Yuii-: I understand you concerns but I wanted to keep the spacing same there, since the intensity of the music there is pretty same, therefore increasing the spacing wouldn't really fit. You might think it appears confusing but I belive that AR10 helps in this case, and also players that will be able to reach that place in the map should be experienced enough to read this pattern right.
are you sure its a good idea to put undertale to the source? i mean, its a cover of a song in the game, but its not an actual song from undertale so maybe it should be in tags instead?
Topic Starter
Covers should have their origins listed in source too.
There's a circle missing between 00:26:357 (3,1) - for seemingly no reason
00:41:241 (5,1) - ^
00:41:241 (5,1) - ^
Topic Starter
It's obvious that I emphasize the guitar there with those pauses.
i can understand the second pause but the first one seems unnecessary seeing as 00:26:008 (4) - is the same sound as in the pause yet it has a note on itKyubey wrote:
It's obvious that I emphasize the guitar there with those pauses.
Topic Starter
Without that note transition between the objects there feels way worse, and since the new part starts from 00:26:589 - , pause feels more natural before it than in the middle of previous part.
Why did this get ranked if the time is 4:48?
Anyway, I think it's a good map, congrats
Anyway, I think it's a good map, congrats
The Drain Time is 5:02 but the Slider at the End dosen't get counted by the Game (I don't know why)The_Manu_ wrote:
Why did this get ranked if the time is 4:48?
Anyway, I think it's a good map, congrats
Amazing map ;P
Kinda late, but I appreciate how the slider-art also happens to end on the head of the trident in the background. Thought it was a nice touch xD.