sheela wrote:

Hi!

[General]

1. You can add Song of a Small Love in the tags, as this is the English name of the song. done
2. I think the offsets of the timing and the video need to be shifted by +10 ms. For example, on 01:51:717 -, the drum beat sounded a little late than the tick. after discussing with thzz we agreed that the official video is slightly offset from the song, maybe it was some kind of effect they were going for? i'll talk with you about this though

[Rocket Agent's Beginner]

1. 00:59:424 (4,1,2,1) - Something went wrong with this part, since the spacing is not regular and the rhythm is weirdly implemented. honestly I think I screwed something up fixing a blanket at some point and don't know what the hell is supposed to be going on here. I'll ask happyrocket to look at it next time i see him online, as this is his part
2. 01:11:534 (1,2) - I hope this is not intended. The distance is larger than the regular distance used throughout the map. i think i was checking a blanket and forgot to ctrl g back before updating, fixed
3. 03:08:781 (1) - I would remove this slider to simplify the 1/1 rhythm since all of the map is using 2/1 rhythm. In addition majority of the objects are following the piano, mainly 03:07:130 (1,2) - and 03:10:433 (1,2,3) -, in this slow section, so because of the addition of this slider that is following the vocals, it makes the rhythm inconsistent and weird to hear since no piano sound is played on 03:09:882 (2) -. To remedy this, I suggest you move the slider 03:08:781 (1) - to the next downbeat 03:09:332 -, and delete the hitcircle 03:09:882 (2) -. agree, changed this to the suggested rhythm
4. 03:10:433 (1,2,3) - The pattern looks fine visually, but the spacing is too similar to the spacing for 2/1 rhythm like 03:12:359 (3,1) -, so I recommend you to try another tactic in order to not take the risk. I have a suggestion for the rhythm, but sadly you have to sacrifice your neat pattern: again, changed to the rhythm in the screenshot
   
   Rhythm

   

Nice difficulty. I especially like the sliderart because you would sharp-curve the slider when the vocal changes tonality. you can thank hr88 for that! he did a good job :p

[Battle's Normal]

1. 01:51:167 (1) - Probably unstacking this slider would help to read the new rhythm made by 01:51:167 (1,2,3) - easier for the newbies? Main reason is that the stack is used on simple rhythms where objects would just hit the white ticks, meanwhile 01:51:167 (1,2,3) - are hitting the red ticks instead. Removing the stack would break the consistent "stack pattern" and notify the player that you need to read it in other way in addition with the new combo.
2. 02:05:479 (4,5) - A blanket pattern would look neater.

Neat and clean difficulty.

[Hard]

1. 01:04:928 (2,3) - The little jump doesn't feel right during this slow part and after when 01:03:827 (1,2) - are distinctly following the piano with a smaller distance in-between. In my opinion it should just be deleted, since you started the part 01:03:827 - by following the piano. It would sound better when you keep that consistency until the next section of the music. alright, i wanted to do something out of the norm here but I understand this point of view too, so I deleted the slider
2. 01:06:029 (1,2) - I think the spacing is too big to reach to the triplet, I even had a little difficulty to do so. Maximum 2.0x is what I recommend. moved some stuff over so that the distance from the slider to the triplet is around 1.9 now
3. 02:22:543 (3,4) - Same as above. fixed this one to be about 2.0
4. 01:07:130 (1,2,3) (mainly 01:07:130 (1,2) -) - The spacing should resemble to 02:23:093 (1,2,3) - because a bigger spacing would emphasize the crashes played consecutively. spaced out the first three sliders in this section. I don't think all of them are equal in spacing but the power is definitely higher there compared to when the cymbals stop coming after each other
5. 01:09:882 (3,4,1,2) - Rather exchange the spacing of 01:09:882 (3,4) - with the spacing of 01:10:433 (1,2) -, since there is nothing that could be emphasized during the sliders than the drums played during the two hitcircles. fixed.
6. 01:53:093 (2) - Probably not noticeable in gameplay, but you can move this hitcircle to x:332 y:257 to make the spacing 01:52:818 (1,2,1) - even. sure why not
7. 02:10:983 (1) - How about you move it on the right of the previous slider, to not get overlapped and make it cramped? a few people pointed this out, fixed
8. 02:35:754 (1,2) - This looks as if there was no gap in the rhythm, so it looks like a 1/2 rhythm. To avoid that confusion, you should increase the distance like you did to 01:19:791 (1,2) -. fixed
9. 03:12:910 (2) - Probably it needs a new combo to clarify the changing rhythm compared to 03:09:332 (1,2) - for example due to the almost identical spacing. fixed
10. 03:19:515 (2) - This also needs to have a new combo because the rhythm changed again. fixed
11. 03:41:259 (1,2) - I've never seen a sudden big jump done during a music measure in other choruses since it is usually done after a measure. So I suggest you reduce the spacing to keep that consistency. remapped this bit to fix that
12. 04:00:800 (3,1) - I think this is too far to reach slider (1), when like 03:57:222 (3,1) - 03:58:598 (4,1) - and 04:03:002 (4,1) - have smaller distances. fixed
13. 04:04:791 (2) - I don't understand the sudden inconsistent spacing between 04:04:378 (1,2) -. There's nothing to emphasize.

this must have been a mistake, fixed

[Agenthzz's Insane]

1. 00:24:470 (2,3) - How about a lower spacing like 2.50x instead? 3.0x feels a bit too much and your other patterns like 00:23:369 (4,5) - and 00:25:570 (2,3) - have smaller distances than 3.0x.
2. 00:38:231 (4) - Same thing here; what you can do is Ctrl + G and move it around x:229 y:227.
3. 00:39:882 (2,3,4,5) - You can try the rhythm in the box to follow the new stand-out sound:
   
   Rhythm

   
4. 01:16:763 (5,1) - Make the spacing bigger. Currently it plays uncomfortably since the setting for the spacing is like 1.30x. So placing a smaller spacing when it doesn't follow the music halts pretty much the flow.
5. 01:19:379 (2,3) - Might want to do the same as above.
6. 01:46:213 (2,3,1) - I'd rather have the hitcircle (3) in-between (2) and (4). It would flow smoother than having to sudden jump, and avoid being similar to spacings for 1/1 rhythms like 01:44:561 (1,2) -. fixed
7. 02:25:296 (1,2,3) - Same as above. fixed
8. 02:00:937 (4) - Stacking it with 01:59:974 (1) -'s tail would look neat. always good to fix stacks~
9. 03:49:791 (4) - Shorten the slider to the red tick to keep the rhythm consistent with the other choruses?
   
   everything else is thzz's part

[Another]

1. 00:58:323 (1,2,3,4,1) - I suggest you increase the spacing, larger than the next part 00:59:424 -, to emphasize the guitar and the part before the slow part kicks in. started out the spacing a bit bigger and had it end closer together to make it feel like it's winding down more
2. 01:05:479 (3) - I would delete this hitcircle for the same reason in an earlier point in this mod. Anyhow, because you started the part by following the piano, the part should follow only the piano, to keep the consistency. fixed
3. 01:10:983 (1,1) - Bring them closer together to make the 1/4 look more apparent, like 2.0x? 2.0 is a bit too close for me, i like how they look when they're separated and i don't think that should be too hard to read considering the difficulty. however i did bring them closer together, about 2.15~
4. 02:26:947 (1,1) - If you applied the suggestion before, apply it to this too. fixed
5. 01:17:589 (3,4) - You can blanket the pattern by moving (4) at like x:338 y:207 to make it look neat. nice
6. 03:43:736 (2) - I think it's better to have it moved to the right of the previous slider. That way the flow would play directly and smoothly. i think i fixed this, but if you have a better placement suggestion just lemme know

[thzz's Extra]

1. 00:24:745 (2,3) - The flow was a bit difficult and uncomfortable to play. A remedy would be to flip the slider that would point to the right side, due to the order of the flow that goes left to right. So the movement of the player can also go from left to right, which results a comfortable flow.
   
   Pattern

   
2. 00:25:295 (1,2,3) - This is unnecessarily far to play in a part where only the guitar and vocals are played to be honest. If we compare it with the spacing of the other objects in this part, the maximum spacing is 3.0x. In the end, it breaks the consistency and I recommend you shorten the spacing.
3. 00:39:263 (4) - I don't see why you added a note here when there is no distinct sound here.
4. 01:07:956 (1,2) - You should reduce the spacing here since the setting for big jump is used to emphasized the crash sounds like 01:07:130 (1,2,1) - in this music section. Or is it to follow the pitch of the piano? Either way, it's a bit too early to make a big jump as you want to leave the bigger ones for the section 01:09:332 -, and it just doesn't follow the music correctly in my opinion. 1.90x is recommendable if you follow the piano, otherwise 1.60x would be for the drums.
5. 01:08:781 (1,2) - Same reason as above; a distance like 1.90x should be fine as long it's not too big.
6. 01:09:332 (1,2) - Same reason as above also; the drums that 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hit are not significantly changing, therefore the spacing for 01:09:332 (1,2) - should be lower or similar to 01:09:745 (5,6,7) -.
7. 01:10:158 (8) - Same as above; you can just do Ctrl + G and it should be good.
8. 01:27:222 (2,3) - Nothing needs to be really emphasized during these objects, so I recommend you lower the spacing here too. Also the flow is not comfortable to play, hence a direct flow would be better here. A recommended place is x:286 y:17.
9. 01:41:259 (1,2) - If it was stacked, the player could easily conceive it as a 1/2 rhythm, and not a 1/4 rhythm since the mini distance can confuse players to think that it is one.
10. 01:48:896 (2) - I don't seem to hear much here.
11. 01:53:369 (3) - Add a new combo because a new section in the music starts here.
12. 02:37:130 (6) - To be honest, the overlap looks ugly to me. I'd rather move it to the corner, like as x:482 y:360.

Be careful with the spacing emphasis, but overall it is a nice difficulty.

[Together]

1. 00:39:263 (4) - There is no distinct beat here, making it sound irrelevant. while it might not be super strong, there's a small cymbal thing going on in the background here that i liked to map cause it makes the drawn out drums in the section after it feel more distinct
2. 01:05:479 (2) - Same as your other difficulties. fixed
3. 01:19:240 (1,2,3,4,1) - 02:35:204 (1,2,3,4,1) - So the placement is pretty much the same, with the same flow but one is inverted, in both choruses. Probably this is only me, you can change one of the combo's placement and the flow if you want, to not repeat the part twice. It's just to remove that "déjà vu" feeling and to play something different than playing the same thing twice. tried something different here, hope it worked as intended
4. 01:28:048 (1,2,3,4) - 02:44:011 (1,2,3,4) - 03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - 03:56:671 (1,2,3,4) - Just a remark I noticed: all of these kicksliders are placed on the right side of the playfield, so none are placed on the left side. So I would suggest you to place half-half on each sides to make the gameplay feel more dispersed. Take note I'm only speaking about the kicksliders in the kiai sections. Others like 01:37:405 (1,2,3,4) - and 02:53:369 (1,2,3,4) - are currently fine. 02:44:011 - 03:56:671 - both of these now start somewhere different, gonna get some playtests to make sure everything still feels alright
5. 02:25:295 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Not totally sure if this is your intention, but on 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you seem to slowly slow down the movement, in other words you gradually reduce the distance a bit, and leave 01:10:433 (1,2) - a bigger spacing to emphasize the drums, and I think this is a perfect to follow the music. So for 02:25:295 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I would like to see the same for it too, since currently the spacing seems to be irregular, as if it was placed out of blue without taking account the spacing. was a mistake on my part that the second section is too big, fixed
6. 02:26:396 (1,2) - To change stuff, how about you move (2) to the right side of the previous combo to change the flow? The previous combo would orient more to the left, so you can emphasize even more 02:26:396 (1,2) - by changing the orientation. good idea

Fun difficulty, despite I wouldn't pass because of the kicksliders and streams. I'm honestly surprised I didn't find much in this map. Good job.

That should be it. This mapset looks promising, but I do want you to find another one or two mod for the hardest difficulty (it doesn't have to be for every difficulty) just to ensure the map before it is forwarded. Until then, I'm marking this map with a star! thanks for the star! i'll try to get a few more looks before calling you back~

Mir wrote:

no kds, just trying to contribute to the highest diff (and practice my modding of higher diffs too)

[ Together]

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  Lots of faux triples and overmapped notes that I see, I get that it's a really high diff but I don't really like overmapping, so if you disagree with a lot of this mod then so be it, but ESPECIALLY in the slow parts there are a lot of circles where there is no sound in the music and it takes away from the feeling of the slow calm section. Eg. 03:05:341 (2) - 03:06:717 (2) - 03:09:194 (3) -
  I honestly think that this song has enough in it to be difficulty without adding overmapped notes like you have. That's the MAIN problem I have with this difficulty everything else down here is just some minor nitpicks or notes I REALLY think you should remove.

1. 00:33:002 (1,3) - nice stack nerd. It's My Style (fixed)
2. 00:40:020 (3) - Hmm well, I can understand this if you're following the flute thing, but there's a REALLY noticeable drum in the middle of this that you skip. I would suggest a reverse slider, but it's up to you. yeah i like drawing out the drums more than the flute thing
3. 01:46:626 (3) - Unnecessary note tbh. Especially in a slow part like this. There's no sound here either. remapped
4. 02:21:855 (4) - This one I really recommend removing because it would give the note after more emphasis due to the pause. remapped
5. 03:13:185 (5) - You could slow this SV to emphasize the guitar coming in. You do it for most of the vocals true, but I think it can fit here too? Maybe? Perhaps? lowered the sv and made this 3/4 while bringing the circles way closer, hopefully this is a neat leadin.

Halfslashed wrote:

NM just cuz

Together

00:23:644 (3,4) - I'm fine with how you mapped the vocal on 3, since it's a very slurred transition between the syllables. The problem I have with this is that the end of this slider is a prominent beat and not a good point to switch to following guitar, where 4 is part of the guitar. What I would recommend is using a 1/2 slider for 3 and a 1/2 slider starting at 00:23:919, using spacing to reflect the syllable slur. hey look here's this nice purple color i was talking about. i think the fact that the 1/1 sliders end on a powerful sound on the guitar is because this section is actively mapped to vocals, and the guitar is used whenever the vocals become less important in my eyes and i can instead tie in the guitar. that's why each section basically follows the same structure. 1/2 1/2 1/1 circle for vocals and then 1/2 slider spam for the guitar strums
00:27:222 (4,5) - Why the variation in rhythm? Intensity definitely didn't increase and you used a 1/2 slider before.this is the halfway point of this section, and usually I like to switch things up around here. nothing wrong with variation and it's not like two circle compared to a slider in this difficulty is particularly taxing
00:30:112 (2,3) - It makes more sense to map the vocal here. Start the 1/2 slider on 2, and use a circle on 00:30:387. i like this differentiation in rhythm to lead into the part where the drums come in and things are bit more spaced and the sv is a bit higher
00:31:350 (4,5,6) - This variation makes sense. Pointing it out because this shouldn't be changed, given that you apply the above. ya, keeping this as part of the whole variation before next section thing
00:33:002 (1,3) - Broken stack. fixed thanks mir xd
00:58:598 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Intensity is decreasing, why are the jumps increasing? This also takes away from the contrast with 00:59:424 (1). reworked the jumps a bit so they make more sense musically
01:10:295 (9,1) - Awkward because right now too much emphasis is put on 9. Reversing this would work out better, since it weakens the intensity of 01:10:433 (1,2) as is. are you saying i should ctrl those two notes? because either i dont understand or i disagree. however i think the emphasis is spread perfectly fine currently, the spacing goes down to emphasize the section winding down and then the huge spacing on the nc'd notes for power on the drums
01:10:570 (2,1) - I thought you were doing perfect stacks for gaps greater than 1/1, not your overlap concept. This is also messy due to not being on the slider either. made it a perfect stack
01:19:240 (1,2,3,4) - Intensity is different among all three of these, why is the spacing all the same? 3 > 1 = 2 > 4 variable spacing on this part would be too complicated, i like how it's very vanilla currently because the section has the power i thought it should have without a bunch of spacing changes that at a glance would feel unfair to miss on
01:44:011 (2,1) - This really needs more emphasis. I already know you're alright with increasing the spacing of this in the kiai, but integration of this concept in other sections of the map like this might be helpful. i don't really understand this point. every ending of each small kiai is done with this same overlap concept. do you mean 01:43:460 (1,2) - should be spaced more?
01:48:690 (3,4,1) - For a "calm" section, this is out of place. I'd honestly either skip this beat or change your rhythm so that this is on a slider, since this feels really abrupt as is. again, i think this is okay.. i like doing weird shit at halfway marks in sections so things aren't so boring. also if you listen carefully, this is justified in the music
02:30:112 (2,4) - This doesn't look like if follows your overlap concept. put it more in the center, but there are plenty of overlaps like this in the map
02:33:552 (3,2,3,4) - Suspicious stacking wizardry. fix
02:35:204 (1,2,3,4) - Looks copy pasted and has the same problem as the earlier 1/4s. it wasnt :< but remapped from sheelas mod
03:42:359 (1,4) - Another stack. Not pointing all of them out, but check these :p what can i say im a crazy girl who loves to party
03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - You had nice zigzag flow for all your 1/4 sliders before this, now you introduce a counter flow visual? Even though the average player will probably just play these as 1/2 jumps, these are misleading and don't emphasize any variation in the song that I can tell. the classic end of the map switchup, because im an asshole. but seriously i wanted to do something different here because yknow this is nearing the end of the song.

Some of the things are repeated over and over. In general I just don't understand your rhythm, which is only playable due to the constant 1/2 in the background, but doesn't reflect vocals consistently enough, nor does it stick to the guitar consistently enough (because let's face it, following a constant 1/2 melody is boring. i try to follow whatever i think is most important at the times. that may lead to some people thinking the rhythm is weird or inconsistent, and maybe it is. however i feel like i can explain most of my choices well enough, and they make sense to me. being consistently inconsistent is something i find makes songs that could be mapped way more generically, actually interesting (or at least i hope so)

Good luck! thanks!

Left wrote:

lol 2hard

[2gather]
- 00:27:222 (4,5) - any intention for this unstacked ones? I thought 00:31:075 (2,3) - is better for this part. just a variation on this part with no real intention of stopping movement for emphasis
- 00:39:194 (3,4,5,6,1) - relatively too hard. 00:40:433 (4,5,1) - maybe at least should be easier than this one i think changed to distribute power better
- 00:49:791 (2,3) - 2 : strong beat and 3 : a bit more strong beat. but flow of 2-3-4 is too soft so I couldn't feel that 3's strong beat enough. of course you gave larger spacing, but not enough for that i think tried something? might put it back though because i think it was okay that way but we'll see
- 01:41:878 - , 02:57:841 - hmm I thought this also has a beat, if you wanna say 01:42:015 (5) - it isn't overmapping i think current way is fine, it gives power on the start of the vocal and on the strong note without adding too much like a stream burst or a kickslider
- 01:46:213 (2,3) - oo too close maybe better in this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6931153 fix
- 01:52:818 (1) - mute tail? my mistake
- 02:19:240 (1) - ^ again
- 03:18:002 - can you catch this beat I think it's important eh i quite like the undermapped feel of this part

I liked melody after 04:13:185 (1) - , empty..quite sad. yeah the melody is nice but the current ending of the map is such a fitting place
Good Luck! I hope to see this one in ranked map list:) thanks! me too!

O-Moei wrote:

00:47:864 (3,4) - Can give this a bit more spacing ok

Doormat wrote:

[Agenthzz]

1. 03:48:552 (1,2,3) - feels like a pretty unfair difficulty spike considering how there are no kick sliders up until this point. given that it's high bpm too it might come off as unexpected, especially for an Insane. maybe just try a buzz repeat slider? all right
   
   SPOILER

   

[thzz]

1. 00:58:873 (1,2) - 02:10:433 (3,4) - feels a bit overmapped, there are no sounds on the blue ticks so making these 1/4 repeats feels out of place. i get that it's trying to map to the background noise but i think you should stick to the main instrument sounds i think the synth sound from right side is clear.
2. 03:36:304 (3,4) - sudden increase in spacing for vocal emphasis makes this feel out of place since 03:32:176 (1) - 03:34:378 (1) - didn't do the same thing. i'd try sticking to same 1.4x ds for (3)->(4) changed to another placement

sheela wrote:

[Agenthzz's Insane]

1. 00:24:470 (2,3) - How about a lower spacing like 2.50x instead? 3.0x feels a bit too much and your other patterns like 00:23:369 (4,5) - and 00:25:570 (2,3) - have smaller distances than 3.0x. okay
2. 00:38:231 (4) - Same thing here; what you can do is Ctrl + G and move it around x:229 y:227. decrease the distance with another way
3. 00:39:882 (2,3,4,5) - You can try the rhythm in the box to follow the new stand-out sound: i've already considered this pattern. since i don't make 00:39:745 - to be clickable, i think i should prefer downbeat and drum sounds. also, i don't think 00:39:470 (1) - can be 1/2 slider because of vocal.
   
   Rhythm

   
4. 01:16:763 (5,1) - Make the spacing bigger. Currently it plays uncomfortably since the setting for the spacing is like 1.30x. So placing a smaller spacing when it doesn't follow the music halts pretty much the flow. okay
5. 01:19:379 (2,3) - Might want to do the same as above. atmosphere of the song is changed a bit here, so i think there's no problem to take lower distance.
6. 03:49:791 (4) - Shorten the slider to the red tick to keep the rhythm consistent with the other choruses? all right

[thzz's Extra]

1. 00:24:745 (2,3) - The flow was a bit difficult and uncomfortable to play. A remedy would be to flip the slider that would point to the right side, due to the order of the flow that goes left to right. So the movement of the player can also go from left to right, which results a comfortable flow. i changed the angle a bit
   
   Pattern

   
2. 00:25:295 (1,2,3) - This is unnecessarily far to play in a part where only the guitar and vocals are played to be honest. If we compare it with the spacing of the other objects in this part, the maximum spacing is 3.0x. In the end, it breaks the consistency and I recommend you shorten the spacing. fixed
3. 00:39:263 (4) - I don't see why you added a note here when there is no distinct sound here. the hi-hat
4. 01:07:956 (1,2) - You should reduce the spacing here since the setting for big jump is used to emphasized the crash sounds like 01:07:130 (1,2,1) - in this music section. Or is it to follow the pitch of the piano? Either way, it's a bit too early to make a big jump as you want to leave the bigger ones for the section 01:09:332 -, and it just doesn't follow the music correctly in my opinion. 1.90x is recommendable if you follow the piano, otherwise 1.60x would be for the drums. all right, shortened distance.
5. 01:08:781 (1,2) - Same reason as above; a distance like 1.90x should be fine as long it's not too big. i think here should be big jump because of strong drum sounds. also, this is slider jump, rather we shouldn't consider only with ds imo.
6. 01:09:332 (1,2) - Same reason as above also; the drums that 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hit are not significantly changing, therefore the spacing for 01:09:332 (1,2) - should be lower or similar to 01:09:745 (5,6,7) -. in order to prepare for a big jump at 01:10:433 (1,2) - , i put some high distance placement.
7. 01:10:158 (8) - Same as above; you can just do Ctrl + G and it should be good. same
8. 01:27:222 (2,3) - Nothing needs to be really emphasized during these objects, so I recommend you lower the spacing here too. Also the flow is not comfortable to play, hence a direct flow would be better here. A recommended place is x:286 y:17. shortened ds though, i don't wanna use liner flow at 01:27:634 (3,4,5) -
9. 01:41:259 (1,2) - If it was stacked, the player could easily conceive it as a 1/2 rhythm, and not a 1/4 rhythm since the mini distance can confuse players to think that it is one. okay
10. 01:48:896 (2) - I don't seem to hear much here. same, the hi-hat
11. 01:53:369 (3) - Add a new combo because a new section in the music starts here. okay
12. 02:37:130 (6) - To be honest, the overlap looks ugly to me. I'd rather move it to the corner, like as x:482 y:360. changed with another way

Be careful with the spacing emphasis, but overall it is a nice difficulty.

1. 00:58:873 (4) - Replace the slider with hitcircle at the start of the slider and a 2/1 slider on 00:59:424 -, so that you can have a clickable object at the start of the measure, which emphasize it. It'll also take care of the new combo of 01:00:525 (1) - , because it currently doesn't sound right.
2. 03:09:332 - The new combo pattern should restart here. Basically you want to add a new combo to 03:09:332 (3) - 03:11:534 (2) - and remove it from 03:10:433 (1) -.

1. 03:35:066 (2,3) - Swap those objects? At the beginning of this slow part (03:22:543 -), your sliders seem to follow the vocals, like 03:23:644 (1,2,3) - and 03:25:846 (1,2) - In the case of 03:35:066 (2,3) - the vocals holds on 03:35:066 - until 03:35:341 -, which I think fits and it will follow the consistency.
2. 03:48:552 (1,1) - I think a smaller spacing like 1.75x in-between is a safer thing to do in an Insane.

1. 03:43:460 (1,2,3) - The flow was still a bit uncomfortable, mainly when we pass from (2) to (3). Try this probably: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6960872

sheela wrote:

Before we move this;

Rocket Agent's Beginner:

1. 00:58:873 (4) - Replace the slider with hitcircle at the start of the slider and a 2/1 slider on 00:59:424 -, so that you can have a clickable object at the start of the measure, which emphasize it. It'll also take care of the new combo of 01:00:525 (1) - , because it currently doesn't sound right.
2. 03:09:332 - The new combo pattern should restart here. Basically you want to add a new combo to 03:09:332 (3) - 03:11:534 (2) - and remove it from 03:10:433 (1) -.

Agenthzz's Insane:

1. 03:35:066 (2,3) - Swap those objects? At the beginning of this slow part (03:22:543 -), your sliders seem to follow the vocals, like 03:23:644 (1,2,3) - and 03:25:846 (1,2) - In the case of 03:35:066 (2,3) - the vocals holds on 03:35:066 - until 03:35:341 -, which I think fits and it will follow the consistency.
2. 03:48:552 (1,1) - I think a smaller spacing like 1.75x in-between is a safer thing to do in an Insane.

Another:

1. 03:43:460 (1,2,3) - The flow was still a bit uncomfortable, mainly when we pass from (2) to (3). Try this probably: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6960872

thzz's Extra: Add Song of a Small Love in the tags.

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sheela wrote:

osu! needs more male utaites!

Log Off Now wrote:

no kds because had it before

[Advanced]

02:33:012 (1) - aesthetics/minor flow thing, but why why not red point in the middle of this slider? would give a small indication of where to click next didn't really use any red node sliders in this map, don't wanna put one here for that reason
00:55:856 (1) - remove NC, you have no nc's in the same spot anywhere else in the map whoops, done
01:02:736 (2,3,1) - this feels a bit weird without having a note to play on the red tick, i know you're hitting the hihat sizzle but i would prefer it if that was on the slider end so you hit both snares, doing this gives a bit more emphasis on the piano too (in short move (3) slider to red tick) i also liked this but i didn't do it for some reason. changed (for now maybe?)
01:26:957 (1) - same comment as 00:24:204 (3) -
02:33:012 (1) - same comment as 00:24:204 (3) -
02:56:131 (1,2) - this is the only part of this section that doesnt have 1/2 notes on the snarekicksnare pattern on the end of the bar, maybe consider doing something here? don't want to touch it for now, but i was kinda going for a winding down like 1/2 reverse into 1/1 reverse kind of thing here. might change though
04:10:168 (2,3,4,1) - this pattern misses out the section of the drum fill that changes to the toms, it doesn't matter so much in the rest of these since there are vocal switches on the notes you do hit, but here their isn't so i would prefer a pattern that hits that switch, even 3 1/2 sliders would work well here yeah it's kinda unlucky that i had to do this but it's mainly for density issues, if i spammed 1/2 sliders here that'd be a pretty difficult spike for the map winding down. no change for now unless someone mentions somethign in specific i like

Xinely wrote:

yatta ne!

Easy :
- 00:23:103 - remove greenline?
- 00:26:957 (4) - finish for consitency with 00:24:755 (2) - ?
- 01:14:296 (3) - maybe 104,88 for a bit circular flow?
- 02:28:608 (2) - 303,198 to avoid the error spacing and stack the tail on (3)'s slider body better
- 02:40:168 (2,3) - this is too curvy compared with prev and next slider, pls smoother it a bit
- 03:02:805 - add manual break? game won't let me add a break here lol, unless i'm doing something wrong
- 03:02:874 - ^ same unless i'm dumb
- 03:08:516 (2) - whistle for piano pls
- 03:12:920 - why not map this when you mapped 03:08:516 (2) - , i dislike inconsistency :C
- 03:42:920 (4,2) - stack would be cute

Normal :
- AR 5? the difference with Hard diff AR is so real not my diff but just wanted to point out with advanced this should be better, since each lowdiff goes up by 2 now
- would you like to use cs 3 or 3,5. ez diff with cs 2 and full of 2/1 somehow is... weird
- 01:01:636 (1,2) - swap rhythm i guess? vocal at 01:02:599 - 's feeling is stronger than 01:02:048 -
- 01:10:993 - i think you can map this. you mostly follow vocal on previous
- 01:42:369 (1) - i think you should map 01:42:645 - as well because cymbal appears at that time?
- 02:15:397 (1) - just suggestion maybe remove this? so the break time will be a real full a break time from start to end. also consistency with the easy diff
- 03:22:002 - same as prev. you can map the vocal with 2/1 slider here
- 03:43:470 (4,1) - blanket can improved here
- 04:03:287 (3,4) - make better mirror pattern?

Hard :
- dafak hp 5 pls
- 00:27:232 (2) - quality spacing
- 00:30:122 - skip vocal here? that sounds so weird imo
- 00:44:434 (2) - weak sound here i dont hear vocal too so remove it?
- 00:53:241 (2) - can you just move to 256,72 so flow looks so cute?
- 00:58:746 (2) - similar like 00:44:434 (2) - but i would say remove to keep ur 1/2 rhythms arent so long. normal has no 1/2 afterall
- 01:07:002 (2,3) - maigod i would say not use triplet here.. normal has no 1/2.. AAAAAAAAA kept triplet since i added advanced, but we'll see what you think now
- 01:08:379 (4,5) - can you just make 1/1 slider here because literally 01:08:516 - has no sound ;w;
- 01:09:755 (2) - same with 00:58:746 (2) -

Insane :
- OD 7 pls or you want me to kill you okdad
- 00:45:535 (2) - the jump is too overdone.. pls nerf like 188,72 thzz
- 00:51:727 (1) - weird to see a normal or low spacing here. try a bit bigger like 440,272 thzz
- 01:48:700 (2) - dafak spacing, 32,140 for consistency
- 01:51:727 (2) - ^ 160,128. i mean why here doesnt need 0,7x spacing? because this is a circle only uwu
- 02:58:608 (2) - nc for sv change and anti jump
- 03:19:663 (2,3) - the jump to (2) is too sudden makes a surprise imo, try change them like http://puu.sh/to7ja/251b509673.jpg thzz
- 03:48:562 (1) - ctrl+g for smaller jump from this to next slider? thzz

Another :
- if u agree with od 7 in insane, od 8 here
- 00:59:847 (2) - consistent spacing pls

ok so the main problem is spread from Normal to Hard.. this normal diff somehow is like an easy diff (because contain of 1/1 only) while this hard diff is a real hard diff.. so in final i asked some opinions and we agree if nerf the hard for sake spread normal to hard being better only make spread from hard to insane becomes bad. so the only way we can take is keep the hard diff (u still can keep those 1/2 i told in game its good to go as a hard diff and you can nerf/keep 1/4, it depends on the situation later) but what we have to take is.. you have to map Advanced diff for spread between normal and hard.. its ok i know you dont want to add a diff anymore but we have to do it for a better spread. you can just map it, find 3-5 mods and we will go later

added advanced, no reply = fixed (so basically fix all lol) just waiting on battle and thzz now

Xinely wrote:

Normal :
- AR 5? the difference with Hard diff AR is so real advanced is ar6 so i think this is fine
- would you like to use cs 3 or 3,5. ez diff with cs 2 and full of 2/1 somehow is... weird would prefer to just make the easy cs2, if you think it's a problem still
- 01:01:636 (1,2) - swap rhythm i guess? vocal at 01:02:599 - 's feeling is stronger than 01:02:048 - i used a similar rhythm in my diffs, so personally i think this one is okay. the slider works well with the vocals that are starting to fade out leading into the drums
- 01:10:993 - i think you can map this. you mostly follow vocal on previous think he was going for a pause here instead of emphasis on the leadin vocals, which i think works fine
- 01:42:369 (1) - i think you should map 01:42:645 - as well because cymbal appears at that time? i think the 1/1 slider makes it clear this isn't mapped to vocals, so it makes the next section that starts with vocals feel different as a new part of the song starts
- 02:15:397 (1) - just suggestion maybe remove this? so the break time will be a real full a break time from start to end. also consistency with the easy diff ok, i think only starting this trend at advanced + is okay
- 03:22:002 - same as prev. you can map the vocal with 2/1 slider here i quite like this break on the bridge, makes give the player some time to enjoy the music, which is why i did it on my diffs as well
- 03:43:470 (4,1) - blanket can improved here fix
- 04:03:287 (3,4) - make better mirror pattern? fix

Halfslashed wrote:

No KDs because already modded.

Advanced

00:30:810 (1,2,3) - Can't tell what you're following here. Earlier you were following vocals, which you'd be able to fllow just by shifting these notes a red tick earlier, deleting 00:30:535 (3), and extending 00:31:498 (3) possibly. Right now your current switch to guitar (if it even is that) doesn't make sense. changed with something different, this part is suppsoed to be following the guitar as the vocals fade out, but i changed the rhythm that does that to something more familiar
01:08:791 (2,2) - Gross overlap. eh i think it's okay, it cuts through the middle anyhow
01:10:443 (1,1) - Broken stack. fix
02:01:360 (2,3,4) - I'm questioning the readability of this for players at this difficulty. Yeah, you've used 1/2 stacks before, but not more than two in one place. these exist elsewhere in the map, and once before this time so they shouldn't be caught too off guard. there's also a small pause before the 1/2 rhythm so i think it's manageable. we'll see tho
02:38:516 (1,3) - These are really close for no real reason, from what I can tell. just something different with my ds rule

Dunno how you map so well so fast. thannnnnnnnnnnnks

Xinely wrote:

Insane :
- 03:19:663 (2,3) - the jump to (2) is too sudden makes a surprise imo, try change them like http://puu.sh/to7ja/251b509673.jpg here is the turning point changing pattern from 1/1 to 1/2. i think it's much natural thing to be sudden on such place.

Xinely wrote:

reburuburu (ノ>∨<)ノ

@next BN : pls check spacings for lowest diffs until advanced i might get fucked and dont forget with 24h

My Angel Azusa wrote:

1. 00:38:500 (1) - this shape is fine in harder diffs like hyper or above. But since it's beginner/easy...the path isa bit vague tbh with big cs, i prefer changing it to a clearer one. I see what you mean but frankly speaking, I think this isn't as vague for a slider-shape. The reason I say that is because the path is clear from the start to the end since the slider-ticks really lead players to follow the movement smoothly without the need of the loop at the middle. Hence, I don't really think it might be necessary or there would be a possibility to look for something different instead. /w\ However, if you really think this make the difficulty unrankable, I'll be willingly to use another shape if needed. Thank you very much for your time! >w<

My Angel Azusa wrote:

Disable all widescreen support. done

[Beginner]

1. 00:38:500 (1) - this shape is fine in harder diffs like hyper or above. But since it's beginner/easy...the path isa bit vague tbh with big cs, i prefer changing it to a clearer one. hr88 explained
2. 01:33:546 (1,1) - such kind of stack should be avoided in beginner ]changed this section around
3. 01:41:253 (1,1) - also here, even the slider body is partly blocked by previous slider. here too
4. 02:08:775 (3) - the slider seems to have ignored many things lol, maybe end it 02:09:876 - and add a 1/1 reverse slider 02:10:427 - fixed in another way
5. 02:32:996 (3,5) - avoid stacking

ya

Normal is fine. thanks battle

[Advanced]

1. 01:44:005 (1) - cancel NC fix
2. 03:36:849 (1,1) - why stack and why nc here? fix
   Too many NC spam I should say, you can totally do like normal and NC every 8 white lines lol can change nc structure if you wish, there is a lot of short combos in the verses because of the rhythm but i think it's not too bad

[Hard]

1. 00:54:464 (2) - use 2 1/2 sliders for consistency?Also there's vocal 00:54:876 - so should be distinguished from 00:53:913 (1) - (like 00:58:867 (2,3) - )
2. 01:57:216 (2) - 02:06:023 (2) - same on all of these i changed it to 1/2 circle. I agree more should be clickable but i didn't want to make it to 1/2 slider because that would require a lot of restructuring to keep consistent ds rules and would make it more dense feeling overall, which i tried to save for the chorus
3. 02:23:913 (3) - NC?nc'd the note after it, so it's 2 groups of 3 combo
4. 02:25:702 (1) - cancel NC fix
5. 03:35:748 - should probably make it clickable was going for the vocal here

[Insane]

1. 01:19:922 (2,1) - ds seems to close?especially comparing 01:19:785 (1,2,1) - this isn't my part but thzz did something similar that i did in topdiff which is small spacing between the lil break before the chorus vocals start again. i think it works well for contrast
2. 03:26:803 (1,2,3) - consistent with 03:35:748 (1,2) - ? the reason it's different here is because i did more vocal focus before the calm part sorta "picks up" right 03:31:344 - here. I think it works out but if i still need to change i will
3. 03:48:546 (1) - why NC i think this nc is good because it's a very different part of the music, and ncing it makes it stand out more
4. 02:58:592 (1) - cancel NC (04:10:977 (1,2) - ) fix

Continue later Another is fine.

thzz
00:41:390 (2,3) - ctrl+g? this may express music better. i think thzz was going for a stacked pause kind of thing here, i think it works nice
03:04:922 - drag break here fix

tog
01:40:977 (5,6,1) - this jump's a bit too big, the music is actually going down fix
02:55:840 (5,6,1) - same fix
02:56:803 (4,2) - stack 4 with 2?the jump is also too big did something a bit different with the nerf from last part
03:22:537 - hmm drag break here? fix
04:07:124 (3,4) - nerf fix

should be all