And that's where you're wrong. The loved category is not a showcase of the most high quality unranked maps, it's a showcase of the most popular unranked maps.Toy wrote:
The point of the Loved category isn't to fill it with overdone maps to see how the top players handle it. It's a showcase of decent quality mapsets that don't quite make it to Ranked but still deserve their own leaderboards. There are plenty of other higher quality, more popular difficult maps that aren't Galaxy Collapse level difficulty. To me that's a waste of a spot for a map that could possibly be more interesting and innovative.Railey2 wrote:
And what's wrong with that? People like being impressed, and they like seeing top players attempt impossibly hard maps because it's exciting. These people are a significant part of the playerbase, and you don't get to determine what the only valid outcome here is supposed to be. If that makes the category look stupid in your eyes then that is entirely on you. People don't only vote based on quality, that was never the point of the loved category.
Stop making this about your preferences. Loved maps belong to the entire community.
There's nothing wrong with people wanting to be impressed, but there are ways other than the Loved categories for people to watch top players be good at hard maps. I know my opinion isn't the only one that matters, but you can't honestly tell me that you'd weigh the opinion of 10 newcomers (by this I mean like <6 months of activity not just lower ranked players) over a more experienced player that knows a lot more about the community and mapping in general.
it it was about quality, then yes: Expert opinions should weigh more because they are more informed. But as it is, the category is not about that.
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The majority decides. Claiming that your opinion should weigh more, is just elitist.CXu wrote:
Welp.
Objectively good/bad means nothing as long as the loved category is supposed to be what it is right now. If it did matter, we would just have a ranked category with more laxed rules, aka old approved.
Nobody argues that ignite is worse than miss you, but that's in no way relevant to this argument. i know that the majorities opinion doesn't necessarily reflect what the best map really is, but loved beatmaps aren't about quality. They are about how much love they get from the community, aka: popularity.
if your preference is ''not stupidly overdone'', then don't vote for these maps. That's what everyone else does too. Don't say that your preference constitutes a good enough reason for the team to change their entire selection of maps. Just be quiet and vote.