pls remove loved section
Railey2 wrote:
And that's where you're wrong. The loved category is not a showcase of the most high quality unranked maps, it's a showcase of the most popular unranked maps.
it it was about quality, then yes: Expert opinions should weigh more because they are more informed. But as it is, the category is not about that.
To quote:
The majority decides. Claiming that your opinion should weigh more, is just elitist.CXu wrote:
Welp.
Objectively good/bad means nothing as long as the loved category is supposed to be what it is right now. If it did matter, we would just have a ranked category with more laxed rules, aka old approved.
Nobody argues that ignite is worse than miss you, but that's in no way relevant to this argument. i know that the majorities opinion doesn't necessarily reflect what the best map really is, but loved beatmaps aren't about quality. They are about how much love they get from the community, aka: popularity.
if your preference is ''not stupidly overdone'', then don't vote for these maps. That's what everyone else does too. Don't say that your preference constitutes a good enough reason for the team to change their entire selection of maps. Just be quiet and vote.
Be careful with automation, knowing the community I wouldn't be surprised if they memed some really stupid maps into the category just by spamming it with favorites or plays for a week. The voting system was flawed because there was very little say that the community had for maps that were even put up for voting so unless you base it by actual favorite count, then it's probably best to move away from that system.Ephemeral wrote:
Might not be doing another vote, and will just start porting maps with certain activity thresholds and favourite amounts directly into Loved. That or the next phase will start. I'm starting to think that votes have largely served their purpose.
Shiguri wrote:
pls remove loved section
This is incorrect. A popular map =/= a map that the community loves, it can be controversial, and/or use new, experimental techniques in general.Railey2 wrote:
but loved beatmaps aren't about quality. They are about how much love they get from the community, aka: popularity.
Wouldn't it be possible to use whatever could calculate a threshold like that to determine which maps get in the vote?Ephemeral wrote:
Might not be doing another vote, and will just start porting maps with certain activity thresholds and favourite amounts directly into Loved. That or the next phase will start. I'm starting to think that votes have largely served their purpose.
AgreeRailey2 wrote:
And what's wrong with that? People like being impressed, and they like seeing top players attempt impossibly hard maps because it's exciting. These people are a significant part of the playerbase, and you don't get to determine what the only valid outcome here is supposed to be. If that makes the category look stupid in your eyes then that is entirely on you. People don't only vote based on quality, that was never the point of the loved category.Toy wrote:
Remember how I said Loved category would be cool if it didn't continue to add stupid 9.5+* maps? Rabbit Jumping Style fits that pretty well.
There are PLENTY of other much more worthy maps that could be given leaderboards with this category in my opinion. You can always argue to "not vote for it" but there will always be plenty of newer players who are not concerned with quality but rather would see leaderboards on impossible maps because they can't exactly play any of the maps up for voting anyways.
Stop making this about your preferences. Loved maps belong to the entire community.
It´s not, plz start porting maps whit out voting, this is starting to create unnecessary discussions, it´s obvious that people will want their own kind of map to get loved, that´s why gn complained about the lack of tag4 maps, toy for the lack of 5* to be hdhr or just original maps in general, etc, i think that looking at especific members of the community to see what love should or shouldnt be is not a great idea... So just add the most active/favorite maps around, i personally don´t mind if is a 19* map, or a original 4* map, or tag4, anyway, you get the point. And thanks for doing this four community votes possible, but i don´t think is a good idea to keep on doing themEphemeral wrote:
Yes, but at that point, what does a vote actually serve? Favourites already indicate a degree of preference - is pitting that against a set of transient votes really necessary?
wouldn't it be fairly easy to abuse a system where it's totally in the community's control though? famous mappers/players would be getting maps loved easier than 'normal' mappers just because for them its easier to get publicity i thinkEphemeral wrote:
Yes, but at that point, what does a vote actually serve? Favourites already indicate a degree of preference - is pitting that against a set of transient votes really necessary?
I don't get why people are so mad. If it isn't in the list this week, maybe it will be in the next or the one after that. You can't expect to see all of your favorite maps getting loved status in one single week.. have some patience.Toy wrote:
Remember how I said Loved category would be cool if it didn't continue to add stupid 9.5+* maps? Rabbit Jumping Style fits that pretty well.
There are PLENTY of other much more worthy maps that could be given leaderboards with this category in my opinion. You can always argue to "not vote for it" but there will always be plenty of newer players who are not concerned with quality but rather would see leaderboards on impossible maps because they can't exactly play any of the maps up for voting anyways.
AgreePittigbaasje wrote:
I don't get why people are so mad. If it isn't in the list this week, maybe it will be in the next or the one after that. You can't expect to see all of your favorite maps getting loved status in one single week.. have some patience.Toy wrote:
Remember how I said Loved category would be cool if it didn't continue to add stupid 9.5+* maps? Rabbit Jumping Style fits that pretty well.
There are PLENTY of other much more worthy maps that could be given leaderboards with this category in my opinion. You can always argue to "not vote for it" but there will always be plenty of newer players who are not concerned with quality but rather would see leaderboards on impossible maps because they can't exactly play any of the maps up for voting anyways.
All maps over 500 votes go in, seems fair to me (???F1r3tar wrote:
Why the fuck is Intersect Thunderbolt loved if it has <50 favorites, only 7% of the total vote, and not even top 4?
10/10 voting system lmao
ok and who voted for itpijon95 wrote:
All maps over 500 votes go in, seems fair to me (???F1r3tar wrote:
Why the fuck is Intersect Thunderbolt loved if it has <50 favorites, only 7% of the total vote, and not even top 4?
10/10 voting system lmao
well saidfieryrage wrote:
this system is going to die out VERY fast if we keep adding 40 favorite maps to the voting list and having people who can't even play the maps vote for them