fieryrage wrote:

Mod 4 MM
going to be honest i'm not gonna go easy on this map, just remember most of this is my personal opinion though

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od 9.3 for a 191 bpm song woah there sergeant calm down spaced streams, there for notelocking prevention
ar 9.7 is also pretty high but i mean there's plenty ar 9.7+ 200 bpm songs so whateverg ehhh, keepin this open for now

ok, for starters: the timing is completely off
the beginning is NOT 191 bpm or 95.5, it's a variety of bpms
as a cross-reference, this map's timing should be very similar to your timing but it isn't
get someone to cross-check timing tbh, it's really off in a lot of places
with that said i'm gonna be skipping most of the beginning but once the timing is fixed i'll be more than happy to check it again ok that maps timing makes me want to neck myself I cant take it from there LOL I've noticed a few timing issues in my beginning I'll fix the specific ones but overall it seems ok to me

as a general rule of thumb for hitsounds:
to hitsound one portion of the slider you double-click the slider head or slider beginning until there's a red circle around the part of the slider you want to hitsound
that's usually where you want to place whistles or finishes or whatnot
you almost never want to make the entire slider a whistle/finish/clap because that gives a different sound than normal and leads to over-hitsounding as a result TIL? lmao ok fixing hitsounds too

• i'll mention one thing about the beginning actually
  00:00:918 (1) - hitsounds from here to 00:21:493 (1) - are so LOUD WHY 100% ON THE QUIETEST PART OF THE SONg uhhh... should've been 45% but ill make sure its reduced to 20% or so anyways
  ok that's it
  
  01:09:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - pretty ugly curve, should be lighter considering the angle of 01:09:051 (1) - but it isn'tehhh, to be honest I could probably fix this by just changing the angle of the sliders like I did throughout the map, I'll keep this open but for now it seems cool to me
  01:09:679 (7) - downbeat starts here, not on the slider end of this, if you do get updated timing this'll be fixed almost guaranteed tho updated the timing here and basically fixed my combo issue, NCs should be consistent and better now
  
  as a result of that downbeat issue i'm also not gonna go over nc issues since they start on the downbeat they really shouldn't start on lo thanks, I think I fixed them
  
  01:13:605 (4,5,6) - spacing this out more compared to 01:12:662 (1,2,3) - makes no sense rhythmically for interest and a lead-in to the notes afterwards
  01:15:489 (5,6,7) - ok what the hell is this people are going to think this is a triple since they literally just played a triple before this but it's not??? a small jump pattern here fits way more than a stack going to dismiss this as part of the style xdxd but honestly any player playing this map should have the degree of readability necessary to differentiate here and changing it to anything but a stack would be hella inconsistent with the style
  01:16:118 (8,9,1) - same same
  01:16:903 (2) - awkward as hell flow from previous slider, and idk why there's a break in between the two sliders--there's pretty clearly a note on the red tick there fixed the red note missing, kept the fllow
  01:17:531 (1,2) - stack shouldn't be here, this should be a jump since the intensity of the rhythm changes quite a bit (to be honest this goes for most of your stacks--if you're going to stack a note, it should be a fairly either a) calm portion of the song or b) a portion of the song where there's no real intensity change happening in the rhythm Yeah I understand this concept for the most part, but I can't think of a single jump that would work better there than a stack; it's the lead-in to the intense part and my entire map is like this, so changing that would make serious inconsistencies. I'm going to keep it for now
  01:18:631 (6,7) - spacing inconsistency -- you go from 1/2 jumps at this spacing to immediately after that the same spacing for 1/1 what? plays fine, intentional
  01:21:458 (6,7,8) - these shouldn't be the same spacing for again, rhythm-related reasons again part of the style
  01:23:186 (8,1) - in contrast this should be spaced out more considering it's the beginning of a nc and an intense note in the song ^
  01:23:814 (3) - slider ends on the intense note, please don't do this, go thru the map and fix instances of this, if need be you can pm me and i'll explain what i mean by that fixed this section entirely
  01:26:327 (7,9) - pretty ugly blanket man im trying my best here tried to fix LOL
  01:28:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this entire stream has the spacing concept wrong, it should go from high spacing to low spacing not the opposite way ok actually keep this open and go back to it if more people agree, I totally agree with you but to be honest it also works the way it is; ill get more opinions on this and go back after experimenting with decelerating streams and making them flowy
  01:32:453 (1,2) - slider should accommodate the follow point from previous circle but it doesn't fixed I think
  01:36:379 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rhythm is the exact same here but the spacing gradually increases? what? map style + fun i tink its fine yo, there are streams in here I'll nerf bc they really contradict rhythm but this here doesn't contradict
  01:38:578 (7,8) - spacing of this is weird compared to other 1/4 stuff prior to this, why is this so close to the slider end? its so close to the slider end for playability, it isn't a jump it's part of the rhythm, if it weren't a slider it'd be a stacked double, both would work but same concept
  01:39:364 (5) - ok what just make this circles not a repeat slider fine either way, but will leave this open
  01:41:406 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - jump pattern makes no sense here since the latter 3 notes land on some of the quietest parts of this section I think they fit fine here
  01:44:547 (1,2,3,4) - again spacing change on a stream where no rhythm changes, and this is actually incredibly drastic, 0.9x to 1.7x?? yaaaaa sorry happens to the best of us, again this is the style and it fits fine and flows perfectly here
  01:45:175 (6,7) - missing triple oh oops! thanks!
  01:50:516 (4,1) - literal momentum killer, this spacing is so small compared to what the player just came back from fixed by switch of #3 and #4, biiig jump now
  01:51:144 (3,4,5) - uh no please don't do the whistle hitsound on all of these it sounds like pretty bad i think i fixed this w my hitsounding revamp before I took structural mod section here, but ill double check this again and make sure it works
  01:52:086 (7,8,9,10,1) - this stream doesn't accommodate this slider in the slightest which also is pretty bad for playability ill pm you about this i think idk what you mean
  01:57:348 (4,5) - same thing here ^
  02:09:992 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,1,2,3) - this entire section's spacing is all over the place and this shouldn't even be spaced that much to begin with--make spacing consistent here for all notes and reduce it by a huge margin I think its reasonable
  
  i mean 02:10:777 (7,8,9,10) - seriously what what
  
  02:11:406 (1,2) - starting jumps on red ticks is awful considering the strong beats are almost always the white ticks (you'll know when they aren't) think ill pm you about this, too, but the beats sound the same here imho
  02:12:819 (6,7,8,9) - not a perfect square but i'm assuming that's because of the stack yea thats why
  02:15:646 (1,2,3,4) - again, why is this so spaced out? intensity building
  02:18:474 (1,2,3,4) - like what?????
  02:19:730 (1,2,3,4) - like what????????????????????? (although this does deserve more spacing than the others, but the pattern itself is awkward as hell because it doesn't curve like 02:19:259 (6,7,8,1) - this does, it goes from curved to straight) no change here
  02:20:830 (3) - the stream should've ended here, everything else after this is overmapping (you tend to do this on a lot of your streams, five-note ones in particular but it happens a lot more than just that) yeh most of the streams are "overmapped" they could all be 0.1 distance or all 2x, I did them subjectively. as for it being five notes too long, it conttinues under a different rhythm and plays fine
  02:21:301 (5,1) - more spacing issues intentional
  02:21:929 (1) - why nc this? NCs should be fixed, didnt catch that, ty!!!
  02:22:872 (3) - missing one repeat or something?? ooo yes ty!!
  02:29:468 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this isn't even the kiai or most intense part of the song and you're using 1.8x distance snap? what? reduce the ds here, there's no reason for it to be this high even if this is a relatively intense part of the song (also stream pattern is ugly but thats my opinion) fixed
  02:30:097 (1) - this is a circle, not a slider now it is
  02:31:039 (2) - but this SHOULD be a slider disagree here as its the intro to new section
  02:31:353 (3) - and this should be a kiai time doing kiai revamp once I finish this mod it was on the list of things to do anyways
  02:34:181 (2,3,4,5) - again, sliders ending on strong beats--you should prioritize not doing this as it makes the song play and feel awkward, coming from a player perspective remapped entire section
  02:35:437 (1,2,3,4,5) - you shouldn't be using distance snap this frequently, this rhythm is a lot more intense than just the same spacing from note to note (this goes for basically all this section) ^
  02:45:175 (1,2) - please don't do this ever i can't emphasize that enough this is AWFUL for playability and basically everything, you should never be doing this sort of stuff for 1/2 notes I agree thanks for saying it so I had motivation to change it
  02:46:589 (8,9) - awkward stack from a triple intentionall
  02:48:788 (8) - this slider should be mapped to more than just a slider think it serves as a good transition
  03:01:825 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - the one time you could actually make a pretty good stream pattern is instead made triples that flow pretty badly since the spacing is all over the place, this honestly should just be a 1/4 stream with consistent spacing or jump streams ohh ok ill go back to this if I get complaints
  03:04:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - seriously please don't space this out so much if you're trying to rank this map, this is stuff i'd see in a rabbit jumping style map ouch ur just tearin me apart today
  03:12:191 (1,2,3,4) - spacing should be less than the previous stream but it continues growing (this goes for the entire stream, basically) explained earlier, may go back but as of rn can't make flowy enough decelerating streams
  03:13:448 (1) - more off-timed stuff so i'm skipping this section as well will try 2 revamp this too after mod
  03:34:495 (1,2,3,4,5) - you should NOT be mapping 1/4 during this section ever, the background synth is more noticeable than these piano notes need more opinions
  03:54:442 (1) - kiai starts on a red tick what???? kiai revamp incoming
  
  this entire kiai section should be mapped to the more noticeable instrument as well (in this case the synth in the background again, alongside the drums), the piano in the background should only be mapped if the synth or drums (or later in the kiai the 1/4 piano) are playing) kiai revamp incoming
  
  04:03:709 (5,6,7) - absolutely ridiculous spacing of slider jumps that flow awkward due to the angle plays fine to me
  04:04:416 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you went from 1.2x spacing to 1.7x spacing for something that shouldn't be nearly as intensified? ...yes xd covered earlier
  04:10:071 (6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - no offense, but you'd honestly be better off remapping this entire section. this is basically the climax of basically every single point i've listed and it all combines into one giant moshpit of what-the-fuck-am-i-playing.ok open to changes here will get more opinions, the fact that most combos are 4 notes long here makes it more playable than you'd expect
  
  let's see where do i begin
  04:10:149 (7) - this is where the piano very clearly ends but you map notes after it
  04:10:463 - this is where the piano begins again but you mapped the blue tick before it (????? what?)
  04:10:934 - this is most probably where your stream should start again instead of having a long repeat
  04:11:877 - basically the same thing, the slider here actually doesn't fit at all whatsoever
  04:12:741 (10) - more blue tick sliders that don't fit rhythm at all..
  
  as for spacing
  
  04:09:050 (1,2,3,4) - this alone is pushing it at 1.8x but you decided to make the entire last portion of the stream 2.0x which is uhh bad
  04:13:133 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this stream is unplayable, the amount of angle changes is actually kind of ridiculous, it should be a fairly smooth looking stream for almost all the streams in the map but you change angles 04:13:369 (4,1) - here, 04:13:448 (1,2) - here, and 04:13:605 (3,4) - here which makes the entire stream play and look like complete ass (looks are more subjective but it does play pretty bad)
  04:13:997 (4,5) - slider should, again, accommodate the follow point
  
  ok that's all i can really say about that section revamp after kiai and double check hitsound coming (probably)
  
  04:17:688 - the kiai shouldn't end here?? it ends at 04:16:903 - even then, i think this part should be the beginning of a new kiai instead of just not putting one here since this is also a fairly intense portion of the song kiai revamp soon tm
  04:18:631 (5,6) - random spacing increase from previous jump yes sireee, slow pattern
  04:21:144 (6,7) - why stack? fits fine
  04:21:458 (7,1) - you can map a hell of a lot more than just nothing, leaving it blank is basically a sin to the music
  04:24:442 (8,1,2,3,4,5) - overused finish hitsound, which honestly is pretty common throughout the map--finish hitsounds should usually only be used on downbeats, not every note in the map
  04:31:982 (3,1) - more undermapping
  04:33:081 (3,1) - ^ ok will look at this too for a revamp idk yet honestly im just trying to get through this right now LOL ill implementt these big revamp changes later tbh
  04:36:379 (1,2,3,4) - 0.8x to 2.0x distance snap, please for the love of god NEVER make a distance snap changing stream change so drastically unsure here, revamp likely coming too...
  04:36:694 (1,2,3) - and then we're just gonna go back to very short spacing after that ok got it
  04:40:463 (6,7) - this should be a 1/8 slider pattern not two separate circles its fine either way
  04:40:856 (1) - this starts on a 1/3 tick fixed tty
  04:41:327 (2,3) - ^
  04:44:233 (6) - this is the most random kiai start point i've ever seen kiai revamp hi
  04:49:259 (3,4,5,6,7) - slider in the middle of the stream almost never works out well, and it doesn't here maybe consider revamp here but for now looks fine to me
  04:50:437 (2,3,4,5) - this shouldn't be 2.0x distance snap, please reduce it plays fine, apex of stream section here
  04:58:133 (1,2,3,4,5) - spaced stream that doesn't fit + blue tick slider issue again fixed
  04:59:311 (1,2,3,4,5) - start of this stream would be better as a slider for the woosh in the background, but even then, this should be reducing spacing (again), not increasing it
  04:59:940 (1) - kiai time should end here (honestly it's probably better if the kiai was just throughout the entire last portion of the song instead of randomly ending and starting it)

jesus fuck i wasn't expecting this long of a mod

tl;dr blankets could use some work, timing is off, patterning is all over the place, rhythm is almost completely disregarded in terms of patterning which makes this really awkward to play
for your first for-rank map this isn't awful like i'm making it out to be sometimes, it's just...the rhythm inconsistencies really drag this map down (i.e. stacks where there should be no stacks, spacing issues), which makes for a lot of suggestions and a LOT of playability improvements as well
i honestly think this could get ranked if the issues are sorted out, though

1. I'm guessing this is one of your first maps, and it isn't bad for a beginner map.
2. 00:54:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - Since's it just the beginning, I think keeping things flowing nicely would be better. So, make this curve into the direction of the slider 00:55:564 (5) instead of having going in the opposite direction. https://a.pomf.cat/iktobd.png
3. 00:59:648 (2) - Ctrl+G, it continues the counter-clockwise motion.
4. 01:26:955 (3,4) - I don't like this placement, you can see how the direction from 3 to 4 is different from the direction 4's. It's kinda awkward. There's lots of examples of this in your map.
5. 01:28:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is kinda backwards. Listen to it, the intensity descends, not ascends.
6. 01:36:065 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Stuff like this pretty overspaced. It's the exact same sound, why increase the spacing in anyway? This is the biggest problem with your map imo. It's like almost every single stream has this kind of overspacing. And it doesn't matter if testplays are fine, I can make something like seal.mp3 be filled with completely playable cross-screen jumps and spaced streams, but if it doesn't fit with the music, it doesn't work. Simple as that.
7. 01:45:803 (5,1) - Spacing. it's way too small. You see how 01:45:175 (3,4,5) has some distance between them? You wanna do that for 01:45:803 (5,1) too, since the intensity is similar, and it's also 1/2. Lots of this kind of problem in your map.
8. 02:02:452 - Not sure what you're following here, there's notes and rhythms you're missing out on.
9. 02:12:505 (1,2) - Don't sacrifice spacing for a blanket (which is off by the way). If you're gonna do something like this, make sure you actually incorporate the blanket into the map instead of placing it wherever. This makes the spacing inconsistent and plain wrong with the music.
10. 02:55:227 (1) - There's also things like this where the strong note is a sliderend. You want those to be clickable.
11. Honest opinion: you're gonna need a lot more work on this. Sure, it's decent as an unranked map, but for rank? Probably never. There is very little thought put into your note placement from what I can see. The note placement is just everywhere, little structure and aesthetics. Timing is pretty off too (not as in offset or BPM, but as in where you put your notes on the timeline, and usage of circles/sliders). Spacing is extremely inconsistent and does not fit with the music. Like 04:08:342 and onwards, holy cow that is overspaced. Maybe it's fun to play, but that doesn't make it rankable.

Akali wrote:

From queue.

General impression - map needs a lot of work still, don't see getting BNs attention in current state. It seems sort of fun to play but design is very lacking and there are a lot of rhythm and spacing/pressure issues (especially for a map of this difficulty). You can keep working on it, but I feel like your overall style/methods need more practice and experience, it's up to you but I would just try mapping more songs for a bit and come back to this later. Nah, just remapped the entire thing with my new knowledge. Should be a few iffy areas still but I think its bettter now, 100%

Metadata: Song comes from BMS, not sure if full version is assigned to Cytus or something but primary source will most likely be that. Not super important atm. fixed metadata + added tags

General reocurring issues:

Passive hitsounding ( p/3348552 this is worth a read) most of the time you want to hitsound only slider start not a slider end with strong and standing out sounds. Not sure if it's done on purpose or not, but there are instances of you using this bell thing on slider ends like 00:37:658 (1) - or 02:36:222 (1) - which on extra difficulties is on the "meh" side of things.

Somehow related to passive hitsounding - too many sliderends cover sounds that probably should be click on the map of such difficulty. Map is long so probably not gonna mention all of the cases of this, but remember that only the slider start is clickable by the player and you have to think if some sounds aren't too strong and important to be slider ends. Thanks, fixed both of these things!

1/2 slider flow and spacing - the way slider work in osu! is VERY lenient, they don't have timing window like hit circles, they require less precise execution in general because of slider balls area being huge (aka slider leniency) + you click/tap less. That's why on extra difficulties you should compensate that fact by using slider patterns that have more of back and forth, rotating etc. flow and are more spaced in general, especially when song raises in intensity. For example
02:34:337 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is basically main theme of the song, it's bread and butter, yet the way you force player to play it is rather boring and dull, all they have to do is follow with the cursor around the playfield without any effort and tap sort of to the rhythm. Other thing is that this part could use more circles in general, but if you want to stick with sliders try to force player to jump around the playfield more. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5813313 pattern like this for example (just done better) are way more fitting for all instensive (sic!) purposes. Okay, I tried to use sliders in a more punishing way, I think it worked

Kiai time - I think it should cover the main theme more, 02:20:359 (1) - not this section, but it's not really important and easily fixable okay tink I fixed

1/2 stacks - I think they don't fit a lot of times, you want these for repeating sounds rather than melodies with pitches changing. also fixed

Rhythm - way too much is skipped and simplified in my opinion, could easily make the map follow the song better without increasing overall difficulty. I will probably mention those. also fixed

Stream shapes - need to work on making nicer curves, mostly design issue but movement on those meh a lot of times as well. Try to use more slider-stream conversion for sets of 5-7 notes rather than whole long streams, copy paste + rotate them later, blanket streams around other objects, avoid enormous arcs like 02:20:673 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - . Also angle of 1/2 and 1/1 sliders directly after streams doesn't look very good, but it's just visuals (unless it ruins the flow somehow) http://puu.sh/qwqOx.jpg compared to http://puu.sh/qwqQc.jpg also fixed
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General design - objects don't fit each other making one whole, this is a bit hard to explain but in general you want objects to have similar distances on the playfield between each other, blanket each other or overlap in regular fashion even if they aren't close together on the timeline. For example 01:22:243 (5,6,7,8,1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5813540 could be easily improved into something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5813573 without much effort. It's rather important for the map reception, not necessa rily horrible everywhere but a lot of the map could be done better, I guess you should work on that not just here but improve your overall mapping style and techniques. Also not saying to blanket everything, just keep design in mind and try to make things consistent and neat. + if you use standard curved sliders try to copy paste them and rotate within the pattern, having differently curved sliders creates randomness and clumsy looks also fixed

Sorry if this is a bit chaotic, I suck at long paragraphs in English, remember you can ask me in game about the details or if something is unclear.

timestamps time

Piano intro: I feel like you should focus on high pitch notes to be slider starts and leave the low ones for the ends usually

00:47:711 (4,5) - should be to sliders into one note, repeat doesn't make much sense

00:48:653 (6) - should be mapped if you switch to a drumbeat

00:51:166 (5) - sliderend to weak, as mentioned

00:52:580 (3) - missing strings? applied all of the above

00:53:679 (3) - sliderend confused what is meant

00:57:763 (1) - ^ I hope you get the idea now Ohh, I see what you're saying. I fixed clickable sliderstarts throughout the map but I think it's tolerable in the very beginning just bc of how slow it is and how tthe melody works

01:03:418 (1,2,3) - pretty sure this is mistimed I hear it here

01:09:679 (1,2) - would be better co map as 1/2 slider - note -1/2 slider -1/2 slider. as mapped - they are too close anyway

01:11:719 (1) - should be a stream

01:12:662 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - not very fitting, map it similar to previous section to keep it consistent

01:15:489 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - unfitting stacks I talked about

01:19:730 (1,2) - like previously

01:21:615 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - stream was awkward direction after "jumps" and the way slider goes seems awkward and ugly

01:22:243 (5,6) - rhythm like suggested 01:09:679 (1,2) -

01:23:343 (1,2,3,4) - spacing way too small for this intensity

01:24:756 (1,2) - very empty could map something here pretty much fixed everything in this section with remap I think

01:30:097 (3) - could use SV speed up and some different shape applied!

01:37:008 (1,2,3,4) - rotate counter clockwise and reposition so it's smoother

01:38:578 (1,2) - slider vs circles issue again, try to see (or rather hear) why this doesn't really fit

01:39:364 (5) - random, map is hard overall no need for a hold slider here, just make a stream or more 1/4 sliders

01:44:547 (1,2,3,4) - too sharp, try a curve

01:45:175 (6,7) - missing important 1/4s

01:46:431 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this one is made rather well

01:49:259 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - arcs in streams like this need more curve, also NC ds change on 01:49:573 (7) -

01:51:144 (1,2,3,4) - vs 02:01:196 (1,2,3,4) - kinda similar thing to map, but it's done in completelty different way, try to avoid that and use similar patterns for similar things in music, don't have to be exactly the same but avoid extremes like this

02:01:196 (1,2,3,4) - this is meh in general

02:16:589 (1,2,3) - some important 1/4s

02:20:044 (3,4) - stream should start here

02:20:359 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - way too spaced, song doesn't justify it here fixed

02:21:615 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - awkward, super confined, 1/4slider jumps would fit better ehh, changed it to a stream tbh

02:24:442 (6) - 1/4s missing

03:01:825 (1,2,3) - 3 should be a 1/4 slider in these triples, or you could map this as a normal stream/jumpstream

03:04:338 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - should use same spacing, directions are super harsh too

03:05:123 (1,2) - 1/1 sliders are supeeer weak here

03:47:060 (2,3,4,5) - map strings in 1/3? I think I found a better way to do it!

03:58:212 (8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1/4s

04:15:646 (1) - guitar-ish lick here, sounds to cool to skip fixed!

04:19:887 (2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2) - too empty

04:31:825 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^

I skipped a lot, took me long time anyway, but I hope you get general idea. I would suggest improving your style and overall mapping techniques doing other songs then coming back to this. Small chance of getting BN interest right now, just being honest here. Good luck!

Plaudible wrote:

NM from my queue~ ^_^
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  Boy I love this song, used to listen to it all the time Glad to see someone mapping it!
  
  I disagree with your preview point, and personally I feel like it doesn't reflect the song too well. Try 02:30:096, fits better imo ok I totally see where this is comin from my dude but holy heck the explosion after the guitar lick part sounds SO dope so its better to include like a second right before the explosion
  By the way, did you intend to have hitsounds on your sliderbodies? Double click the body of the slider and remove them IMO, they don't add much at all especially in your intro. theyre HELLA cool faam
  Also, check AIMod. ctrl+shift+a. Few snapping issues, and your file is over 10 MB. no snapping issues unless you mean if I check DS, but in that case it literally picks up any change in DS and im not trying to map with consistent DS for everything, there are lots of DS changes throughout the map

Heaven

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  00:09:085 (4) - You follow circular flow for a lot of this relaxing part, with justified changes at areas like 00:06:572 (1,2) I'd suggest keeping the similar flow for areas that don't need emphasis here.
  00:09:399 - there's a big emphasis here you're missing out on. I suggest this: http://puu.sh/qBMe9/b949e709fc.jpg and space 4 out reasonably. Putting it on the end of the slider only dampens it while it's the highest note in this intro. good idea fixed
  00:16:431 (1,2) - Why not just make these the same? Copy and paste 1 then rotate 180 degrees and place makes them look nicer, it's easy to see they're different as is they're different in length, too, though, can't do that
  00:26:350 (1) - The end curve in this slider... with the hard edge on the end of it it doesn't feel right. Feel free to take my suggestion: http://puu.sh/qBMr6/fc5113a29a.jpg but if you don't like it, at least smooth out the curve a bit and round it out a bit more. fixed w ur suggestion
  00:29:177 (2) - Curve this to blanket upcoming note? nay, tis fine
  00:32:318 (1) - This slider needs work as well... adding more points could help to round out the shape better. Perhaps consider adding an anchor point at 00:33:889 where the bell rings to emphasize it. that did just the trick!
  00:36:402 (5) - Example of a slider with hitsounds on its body, might want to remove.. intentional it sounds rly cool to me
  00:40:014 (3,4,5) - There's no 1/8 sounds here that I can hear. Map it like this: http://puu.sh/qBMEC/2da79a05ea.jpg it fits the violin melody better. What you have right now really clashes with it. that sounds horrible to me idk maybe im imagining a beat there but I hear 1/8
  00:52:109 (3,1) - This blanket needs work. Use the approach circle to make it perfect. i think fixed??? idk im garbage at blankets lmfao
  01:03:418 (1,2,3) - ? These aren't placed right. Move them all over 1 red tick. Honestly, this rhythm is really weird, and just stacking circles may be confusing for players. A reverse slider could work, or maybe a slider and circle. did u try updating it b4 modding LOL this has been patched for a couple of days now
  01:08:736 (1) - This high SV doesn't feel like it should be here, my reasoning is because it's not the intense part of the melody yet, and it's a fairly silent noise. Making it a slow one would make more sense to me, IMO. its the lead in and I have emphasized every similar sound with SV in the map
  01:09:050 (2) - NC this, you want to clearly indicate a slider velocity change so players can expect it. ok y nott
  01:09:207 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Neat trick I want to teach you. ctrl+shift+f changes a slider to a stream. Perhaps making one here could help improve the shape, if you feel necessary. I'm aware of the trick, I freehanded all of the streams and I think the shape there looks rly cool! its intentional.
  01:09:050 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Blanket lol wat
  01:10:698 (6,7) - Why the increase in spacing here? o-o FUCK I had a highlight issue meant to hit undo but it didnt register I gUESS? fixed that section up.
  01:19:102 (6) - NC maybe? fixd
  01:20:044 (2,3) - Blanket its good I changed the angle of the kickslider so it wont even appear to be like an intended blanket bc it wasnt
  Don't want to make this a blanket mod, so... I suggest you go with the approach circle while making them and look yours over. Make the blankets to the approach circle, it'll make them infinitely better.
  02:30:568 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - The song isn't nearly this intense here, I suggest toning the spacing down here by quite a bit. It'll match this quick mellow tone following the kiai's intensity ^_^ its emphasized at every point in the map its just a dope ass sound that is in 2 or 3 places cant remember, its emphasized bc its "uncommon" in the song like if you catch my drift homie
  02:31:824 (3,4,5,6,7) - For the first part of the kiai, with such difficult streams before, this feels really out of place. Spacing should be quite a lot larger to compliment how powerful the song is right now. The stream before would be like a 6 star SD, this is like a 3 star SD. You should definitely increase the difficulty here. its stream map, part right there hella fits imo
  03:24:128 (1) - Extend this further. Note doesn't end there. dun
  03:27:819 (2,3,4) - This'd be better just as 1/2 sliders again theyre sO COOL THO
  I'm not good with timing, but notes like 03:29:233 (6) definitely feel like they're not... right, like they come after the note plays. Have someone look into this. Wish I could help more here, sorry moved it up by 1/8th tick should sound better here
  03:33:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - A lot of this is more difficult than your kiai, but the song here is a lot more chill wat its not more difficult its consistent spacing
  04:15:960 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Disagree with spacing here for previous reason. same
  
  Generally that's all I really want to specifically point out, you generally have a good sense of rhythm and the streams generally followed the mood of the song. Few major underlying problems I saw in the map though:
  
  GENERAL:
  Aesthetics.
  A lot of the map doesn't look into the effect of where note placement is and how it affects other notes, and a lot of it feels randomly placed. For example, things like this at 01:40:934 (6,1,1,1) hurt your overall aesthetic quality of the map. 01:19:259 (7,3) is another example. The way these notes stack show a lack of structure. An easy way to fix this is to go through the map with AR 4 or 5. For comparison, also check any ranked maps, currently, monstrata's are a great example. In ar5, everything blends in well with each other - blankets, stacks, patterns, shapes. Obviously I'm not asking you to map at that high level, but starting to figure out your map's structure is key to making it successful and fun. Looking into how notes compliment each other and making it more visually appealing is a huge component. I suggest you look through this reddit post and develop your aesthetic mapping. hNNNNNNNNNg but monstrata's maps r so linear and jumpy this is a stream map I aint tryna copy hhim however I went thru and removed even more overlaps should be slighhtly better nowhttps://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/3sy60p/sings_guide_to_mapping_aesthetics_2015/
  
  Also, please use the slider to stream trick to remap some of your streams, some have awkward flow and the shape just doesn't work. For example, 01:44:232 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) though I am incredibly fond of the stream you made at 01:56:170 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5).
  ok maybe its just me but I LOVE the stream @ 1:44 plus like I said earlier they're all freehand
  Lack of proper difficulty disparity.
  A lot of your map has streams - which represents the song well. However, when you have the not-stream stuff, it's very.... lackluster. None of it really shows 6 star for what it should be. I dropped all the streams in the map, and the star difficulty immediately drops all the way down to 5.3 stars. Jump patterns, increased jump sizes, etc. will benefit you and increase the difficulty to match your map. Even if it is a stream oriented map, your jumps have to at least correlate to the difficulty a little better than it currently does. An example is 02:48:788 (1). You can map to the bass in the back, things like that, but just making an arc slider is something you could find in 2 star songs. Of course, on simpler parts this can be justified, but during the kiai you shouldn't be doing this. take the jumps from no title its like a 0 star map lol though I guess u cant use other maps for justification like this, illl justify in my own words then: I envision this as a stream map: fun, streamy, not too aim intensive. I think what I have now fits the beats fine, I could over emphasize it with crazy DS jumps but that completely would ruin how I wanted to map this, so im going to not do that just for the sake of me still being able to love my map haha.. I'm 100% sure it can get ranked without crazy jumps.
  
  Also, some streams don't necessarily follow the pace of the song too well, two I outlined were before the kiai's. The rest are decent, but you should really think about the intensity of the song at a given time and match the stream's difficulty and spacing to it. the space @ 3:30 is consistent and mellow whereas streams in the rest have lots of angle changes, DS changes, etc.

Think that's all I have to say. Sorry if I sounded a bit aggressive in my mod, just know I didn't intend it that way I feel like this map has a lot of potential but you need to put more work into it to really flesh it out and make it fit the song, though you've made good headway into it. Good luck!

Weriko wrote:

Oooookayyyyy.... i liked the map :p

The mod from my queue :p

00:40:014 (3,4,5) - i think this kinda destroys the calm you need in the beggining.. so i think 2 of them at 1/4 is better thats totally the point tho! like hey "o shit when is this drop is it here???" and it just adds nice variety

00:49:910 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - i think you should keep the rhythm you were following here I think I'm justified in changing it

00:56:507 (9) - maybe move this a bit down?? its consistent with #7 in the same combo

01:19:259 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - i think you should start with less spacing... so the change is more noticeable :p ooo I see where ur at but that stream is kinda like a lead in plus if you listen the sound heightens in pitch each note, I think it rly fits

01:38:264 (7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - maybe a weird stream that covers all this space ehh nah

01:40:463 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - i think this jumps dont fit at all with the song... ok ill keep this one open bc everyone sees something else for jumps but I think they fit idk ill c what more peeps say here thanks <3

01:49:259 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - hmmm this one felt weird.... not sure why D: sorry its prob the most spaced in the map, thats why, but it flows well here

01:58:997 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1) - if you ctrl + j ... i think it paints piano better :p nawww its cool as is

02:12:662 () - is a circle missing here? because i kinda feel it in the beat fixed

02:15:175 () - same as above think pause is justified here

02:48:788 (1) - maybe make this slider more interesting? naww wouldnt fit

03:33:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - is timing correct here? feels a bit weird I think so

03:40:463 (5) - i think this is more like a 1/2 slider yes its 1/8 there

03:40:817 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - you changed the rhythm you were following here.... not something really important tho Sorry you highlighted a lot I cant exactly ttell but yes I changed rhythms a few times in thatt spot

04:40:463 (6,7,1,2,3) - you can make something really interesting here.... like a 1/6 slider followed by some random 1/3 ... :p maybe? i think the pause helps emphasize change so im finna keep as is

And i think thats it for now !!!!



i tried to map this long time ago.... its very hard it sure is HAHAH :p good work!

good luck!!!!!

Hobbes2 wrote:

hey

00:00:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hm, considering move the spacing you have from 1 to 2 to the spacing you have from 6 to 7, because 7 is the really impactful sound so some emphasis there makes more sense than emphasizing 2 like you did naww the change from circle to slider here is emphasis enough imo
00:09:713 (5) - timing change, NC?
00:12:012 (3) - ^ done
00:17:101 (2) - The sound here is slightly before the slider, which leads me to believe this section doesn't have the correct BPM Incorrect offset on timing pt, but I fixd it I think, thanks so much
00:35:459 (1) - blanket maybe? ok
00:36:402 (5) - what is going on at the end of this slider o_o, so many slider points wat I dont see em
00:42:370 (1) - making this slider "bounce" with a bend / angle or something at 00:43:941 - would be cool and fit the song. Or, you could make it a reverse slider! redid the slider yolo
01:03:418 (4) - I dislike this big reduction in spacing, seems kinda pointless :v making these 4 notes have the same spacing works better imo but slow part right b4 speed up cliche so good
01:03:732 (5) - NC for emphasis / SV change y not
01:12:662 (4,1) - Unappealing overlap fixed
01:17:217 (1,3) - Considering a blanket consider it done
01:25:856 (1,2) - I don't think this stack plays well / fits all that well. i think it fits pretty well
01:26:327 (2,4) - bad blanket fixed
01:28:605 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think mapping the stream in such a way that the NC / direction changes occur at 01:28:840 (5) - and 01:29:154 (3) - instead makes more sense I see it, but I tried to change it here and increments of 4 of space change or direction change right b4 fast slider hurts, also tried to make it work as jumpstreams but honesty I think 6/6 is the best way to handle this sound
01:31:825 (3,4) - bad blanket fixd
01:34:495 (1,2,3,4) - This needs work, make it more fluid? It's kind of jagged atm I think its rly cool as is tbh
01:36:065 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't make any sense to me :v why did you NC / change directoin / spacing wher you did? it would make more sense at places like 01:36:379 (5), 01:36:693 (4), or 01:37:007 (3). You don't have to do it for all of these, but maybe even just two of them would fit (so each section of the stream lasts 8 circles), what you have now just makes no sense :v ok also tried it here that also rly rly fucks ppl over (people = me) I'll however come back to this after I finish the mod and see if I can update it in a way that doesn't totally fuck up my vision for that stream

01:38:264 (7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5) - could make a circle out of these :p thats as close to a circle as it'll get otherwise the jump to the next stream will flow horribly
01:39:520 (10) - NC nc in increments of 4 on such small streams hurts readability
01:41:091 (2) - NC should be here I think, unless your current NC is for readability Its for readability
01:44:861 (1,3) - these slightly touch :v fixed
01:46:746 (2) - NC / direction / spacing change should be here it is there, but the NC didnt show it, NC was previously readability but ill change it to emphasis
01:49:573 (7) - NC, I think again confusion
01:50:359 (3,1) - blanket fixed
01:56:170 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5) - Another stream I have a problem with, for very similar reasons as before. clear pitch change where the spacing change is here
01:59:311 (6) - NC
01:59:625 (10) - NC again w the readability here
02:11:249 (9) - I want to say the NC should be here :v for readability y not
02:14:861 (3) - Turning 02:14:861 (3) - into a 1/2 slider and then having a long slider at 02:15:018 - would fit the song better imo fixddd
02:25:699 (5) - NC to distinguish from the stream dundundun
02:40:620 (2,2,3,4) - Maybe shaping this stream so this doesn't overlap would look nicer no bc it just doesnt rly fit w the music if I curve it upwards imo
02:50:201 (1,2,3,4) - Make this a curve instead? Currently this shape is not good changed
02:51:143 (5) - I definitely suggest NCing this done
02:55:698 (7,8,1) - This overlap pattern doesn't work well imo heck yes it does
03:12:427 (4,5) - this blanket :V needs work ok fixed
03:20:044 (1) - Man, remake this lol it looks kinda bad to me, the curves feel really lopsided and the start and end of the curve in particular look weird ye it kinda looks like an onion tbh ok tried to fix LOL
03:25:437 (2,1) - blanket fixed

Aye, I think I've done enough at this point I know I promised a full mod but a lot of the stuff I said for this 3/5 I've modded applies to the second half (the streams, blankets, etc)

There's a good guide on how to do blankets out there, right here! t/208596