1. Chillout (4,96 stars, 1136 notes)

- myRumble - wrote:

Hey~ Random mod
Change the diff name to: The Beach

My mod hope its ok :3

00:50:914 (1) - Change the slider and do it like this -> http://puu.sh/s0DzC/57a0667cae.jpg
00:55:471 (1) - ^ Do it again like this -> http://puu.sh/s0DLg/6dc82ff348.jpg
01:25:471 (1,3) - Overlap
01:28:509 (3,1) - Overlap
01:43:319 (3,1) - Its play better when you do the slider a little bit away from the circle -> http://puu.sh/s0E1c/d8d87bfbb7.jpg i do the double tap under the slider ^^
01:49:205 (2,1) - Overlap
02:12:939 (1) - Slider change like this -> http://puu.sh/s0E9M/ab743b1c7f.jpg
02:56:420 (1) - ^ -> http://puu.sh/s0EjI/4e08d6230c.jpg
03:47:117 (1) - ^ -> http://puu.sh/s0EsB/2b593e5623.jpg
03:58:509 (1) - ^ -> http://puu.sh/s0EvO/39d87866e0.jpg
04:01:547 (1) - ^ -> http://puu.sh/s0Eyb/7be2000f23.jpg
04:04:585 (1) - ^ -> http://puu.sh/s0EzM/43741c0bc5.jpg

Yeah its a cool map and i dont find more :/ but yeah i hope it help a little bit ^^

Good luck!!

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[a]
00:05:914 (1) - delete NC
00:26:610 (1,2) - looks too near, so players could hard t o read
02:14:648 (1) - Delete NC
02:33:636 (2,2) - avoid overlap, looks bad.
02:34:965 (1,2,3,4) - Hitsound is too loud
03:29:269 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Hard to read.

GL

MrKOSIEJ wrote:

Siema, z ququq
nie będę owijał w bawełnę to się więcej nauczysz :v

MOD

[General]
Twoja mapa wygląda monotonnie, ale jest lepsza niż te słabe mapy początkujących mapperów. Masz jakiś tam rytm i się go trzymasz.
Ale struktury tu brakuje, i różnorodności.

[AiMod]
Ogólnie aimod mówi że masz za dużo kiai, i za krótkie. Ale jebać, nikt na to nie patrzy :v
Za to 04:36:485 - tutaj kiai nie jest dopasowane do tempa, na co niektórzy patrzą. Wystarczy ogarnąć offset w tym momencie bo mógł się przesunąć

[Song Setup]
Wywal widescreen support bo nie używasz storyboarda
I ja bym dodał jeszcze ze 2 kolory combo bo tło ci to umożliwia bardzo fajnie. Jakiś ciemny zielony i błękitny na przykład

[Diff Name]
Możesz nazwać coś z plażą i chilloutem. Luźne propozycje:
"Beach N Chill"
"Chillout"

[Mapa]
1. Wyłącz grida bo to przeżytek.
2. Włącz sobie DS, szczególnie jak jeszcze nie mapujesz zajebiście.

00:03:256 (2) - Unikaj takich pedalskich overlapsów bo wyglądają jak gówno.
00:03:066 (1) - to jest za blisko 2. Możesz to rozkminić tak żeby zrobić fajny overlapse na sliderze i wyrównać odległość tego kółka pomiędzy dwoma sliderami. Pokaże ci: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6505460
Widzisz? Teraz wygląda zajebiście. Szukaj w swojej mapie takich drobnostek, ogarnij i będzie wyglądało fantastycznie.

00:13:699 (1,2,1,2) - To jest spoko, ale położenie tego już nie tak bardzo. Spróbuj używać blanketów, sprawią że twoja mapa będzie wyglądać na ułożoną
+ w tym miejscu 00:12:370 (1,1,1) - masz badziewny overlapse. Może zrób coś takiego? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6505506
tylko nie zapomnij później przesunąć to: 00:14:458 (1) -

00:20:344 (2,3,4,1) - kolejny przykład nie ogarnięcia. Możesz zrobić np coś takiego https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6505517

Skończę na tym bo mapa aż ocieka takimi niedociągnięciami. Ale z moimi radami zrobisz zajebistą mapę. Powodzenia w mapowaniu!!

N E V E R G I V E U P

_orange wrote:

NM from q

[Chillout]

01:15:028 (4,1,2,1) - you could blanket these

01:18:825 (2,3,4,5) - you should arrange these so that there's even DS

01:26:041 (2,3,4,1) - you could do something like this

02:14:079 (1,3) - overlap you might want to change

03:20:534 (5,6,7) - spacing issues

03:28:699 (6,1) - slight but noticeable spacing problem

03:34:205 (6,7,8,9,1) - more spacing issues

04:00:788 (1) - this slider doesn't really fit in imo, the other ones are curved

04:36:484 (1) - Timing point and kiai here aren't snapped

05:21:294 (1) - maybe center this note?

That's it, I like your mapping style

gl!

dentek wrote:

what is mod

Weź może preview point zmień na 01:15:123
od 00:27:085 (1) do 00:33:161 (1) - Usuń te spinnery i zmapuj to plz
01:15:408 (2) - Zamiast kółka spróbuj slider idk coś takiego

01:18:256 (1) - Clap tu nie pasuje
02:00:598 (1) - Usuń whistle i daj clap
02:27:117 (3) - Skróć ten slider

03:47:117 (1) do 04:11:420 - Ten part jest tak nudny i tak monotonny ;-; najlepiej to zmień, ale
03:49:775 (1) - Dodaj finish
03:52:813 (1) - ^
03:55:851 (1) - ^
03:58:889 (1) - ^
04:01:927 (1) - ^
04:04:965 (1) - ^
04:08:003 (1) - ^
04:11:041 (1) - ^
04:34:680 (1) - i dont like that spinner

fajny beatmap

MoeAsuka wrote:

Hi m4m from my queue

[Chillout]
The difficulty like this usually use AR9,it's easier to read
00:41:800 - You use big distance from here,so when the song become stronger I think you should make the distance at least not small than here
Here are too small distance:
00:43:699 (2,3,4) -
00:46:168 (4,1) -
00:50:534 (1,2) - move (2) left a little?
05:00:218 (2,3,4) - Ctrl+G?
Totally,I think you can do better in rhythm
Good luck~

MBmasher wrote:

from my queue

Metadata

delete chillout from tags, it is already in the difficulty name

Chillout

00:20:344 (2,3) - blanket
00:40:661 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - why do you spam finishes
01:06:104 (1,2) - blanket properly

nothing too bad, but the NCs are placed a bit weirdly at some points

good luck with the map

[ Emillia ] wrote:

good luck

2016-11-14 23:43 [ Emillia ]: ok i'll start
2016-11-14 23:43 [ Emillia ]: 00:03:066 (1) - not sure why this note is here
2016-11-14 23:44 [ Emillia ]: its literally mapped on nothing
2016-11-14 23:44 [ Emillia ]: hitsounding it doesnt justify it imo
2016-11-14 23:45 PajWoj: i didn't notice there was no sound but it would be strange if it wasn't there
2016-11-14 23:47 [ Emillia ]: tbvh i would suggest this: http://puu.sh/si0E7/94982d1753.jpg
2016-11-14 23:47 [ Emillia ]: like follow the obvious beat
2016-11-14 23:48 PajWoj: hm
2016-11-14 23:51 PajWoj: yeah this seems better
2016-11-14 23:54 [ Emillia ]: 00:06:294 - 00:05:724 - 00:05:155 - missing soft drum beats here
2016-11-14 23:55 [ Emillia ]: doy ou want me to spam instead
2016-11-14 23:55 [ Emillia ]: or would you rather reply to each one
2016-11-14 23:55 PajWoj: i mean
2016-11-14 23:55 PajWoj: i'm gonna check every one and try to respond
2016-11-14 23:56 PajWoj: you can spam if you want
2016-11-14 23:56 [ Emillia ]: cuz the thing is you're replying a bit slow compared to the speed of me finding mods
2016-11-14 23:58 [ Emillia ]: the whole from part of your map
2016-11-14 23:58 [ Emillia ]: is mapped super haphazardly
2016-11-14 23:59 [ Emillia ]: i cant really hear a certain instrument being emphasized
2016-11-14 23:59 [ Emillia ]: and every pattern looks very messy in general
2016-11-14 23:59 PajWoj: i mean
2016-11-14 23:59 [ Emillia ]: like they were put there for the sake of it
2016-11-14 23:59 PajWoj: i didn't know what to do
2016-11-14 23:59 PajWoj: i don't really like that part but i'm too lazy to remap it
2016-11-15 00:02 PajWoj: i mean i tried to put whistles on that one sound that stands out but that's it for emphasis lol
2016-11-15 00:03 [ Emillia ]: yea
2016-11-15 00:03 [ Emillia ]: its more about
2016-11-15 00:03 [ Emillia ]: rhythmic sense
2016-11-15 00:03 [ Emillia ]: like the important beats are clickable
2016-11-15 00:03 [ Emillia ]: and the not important beats are more obscured
2016-11-15 00:04 [ Emillia ]: if you're just gonna mix and match sliders and hitcircles as you please
2016-11-15 00:04 [ Emillia ]: its not gonna sound well with respect to the song
2016-11-15 00:04 [ Emillia ]: if anything i'd say refer to VINXIS's version
2016-11-15 00:05 PajWoj: i wanted to make a simpler map like
2016-11-15 00:05 PajWoj: idk just simpler
2016-11-15 00:06 [ Emillia ]: simpler sure
2016-11-15 00:06 [ Emillia ]: but rn its really complicated to me what your emphasis is
2016-11-15 00:06 [ Emillia ]: i dont see any
2016-11-15 00:06 [ Emillia ]: like this is good imo 00:22:243 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2016-11-15 00:06 [ Emillia ]: cuz 1 and 2 are louder and held, makes sense for you to have sliders
2016-11-15 00:07 [ Emillia ]: while the more subtle tones were suppressed with hitcircles as 3,4,5, which differ from the sliders
2016-11-15 00:08 PajWoj: hm
2016-11-15 00:09 PajWoj: i mean
2016-11-15 00:10 PajWoj: i genuinely don't know what to say like this is some advanced mapping
2016-11-15 00:11 PajWoj: and this what you're seeing is my like third visit in the editor
2016-11-15 00:11 PajWoj: i guess that explains the lack of everything
2016-11-15 00:15 [ Emillia ]: hm
2016-11-15 00:17 [ Emillia ]: make your NCs more consistent 00:28:129 (7) -
2016-11-15 00:17 [ Emillia ]: i guess i can only point out some of the more obvious mistakes
2016-11-15 00:17 [ Emillia ]: cuz about mapping you really need experience to get better
2016-11-15 00:18 [ Emillia ]: 00:34:205 (7) - similar with NC, etc. will stop mentioning this
2016-11-15 00:19 PajWoj: yeah ok
2016-11-15 00:19 [ Emillia ]: 00:32:686 (1,2,3,4) - sounds similar to 00:38:762 (1) -
2016-11-15 00:20 [ Emillia ]: but somehow is mapped completely different
2016-11-15 00:20 [ Emillia ]: and disregard some intermittent sounds?
2016-11-15 00:20 [ Emillia ]: 00:41:800 (1) - from here onwards please the finish hitsounds are wayyyy too much
2016-11-15 00:21 PajWoj: fuck dude i like it so much
2016-11-15 00:21 PajWoj: what should i do then
2016-11-15 00:21 PajWoj: like for me every one of those sounds deserves a finish
2016-11-15 00:21 [ Emillia ]: no wayy
2016-11-15 00:21 [ Emillia ]: it sounds
2016-11-15 00:21 [ Emillia ]: I N S A N E
2016-11-15 00:21 [ Emillia ]: like
2016-11-15 00:21 [ Emillia ]: its just cluttering my earholes
2016-11-15 00:22 PajWoj: o
2016-11-15 00:24 [ Emillia ]: 00:50:914 (1) - these sliders
2016-11-15 00:24 [ Emillia ]: consider cross referencing other maps and revise them accordingly LOL
2016-11-15 00:24 [ Emillia ]: 01:01:547 (3) - this is a bit confusing to play, just map it all in 1/6th
2016-11-15 00:25 [ Emillia ]: 01:25:471 (1) - missing beats
2016-11-15 00:25 [ Emillia ]: (repeated)
2016-11-15 00:26 [ Emillia ]: 01:35:155 (2,3,4,1,2) - if i were you i'd map this in 1/3 but thats a little confusing rn
2016-11-15 00:26 [ Emillia ]: 01:37:433 (6,1) - similar slider length, makes things unreadable
2016-11-15 00:26 [ Emillia ]: 01:37:433 (6,7,1,2,3) - especially when you compare the distances in time and visually
2016-11-15 00:26 PajWoj: wait hold on what should i exactly do with this
2016-11-15 00:26 PajWoj: like
2016-11-15 00:26 PajWoj: shorten the second slider to 1/6?
2016-11-15 00:26 PajWoj: 01:01:547 -
2016-11-15 00:27 [ Emillia ]: no just continue the reverse on 2 more ticks on 1/6
2016-11-15 00:27 [ Emillia ]: i guess
2016-11-15 00:27 PajWoj: this would be pretty strange :/
2016-11-15 00:27 PajWoj: w/e ok
2016-11-15 00:27 [ Emillia ]: uhh try changing it and then looking at it
2016-11-15 00:27 [ Emillia ]: it should at least feel better to play
2016-11-15 00:27 [ Emillia ]: if you want something clickable
2016-11-15 00:27 [ Emillia ]: i guess you can just extend it by one tick
2016-11-15 00:27 [ Emillia ]: and adding a hitcircle
2016-11-15 00:28 [ Emillia ]: but i feel like that could be misleading
2016-11-15 00:28 PajWoj: i'll leave it at that for now
2016-11-15 00:28 [ Emillia ]: sur
2016-11-15 00:28 [ Emillia ]: 01:56:041 - the triplet actually starts here for 01:55:851 (1,2,3) -
2016-11-15 00:29 [ Emillia ]: 01:56:800 (6) - theres technically nothing on this hitcircle
2016-11-15 00:29 [ Emillia ]: 01:58:509 (1,2,3,4) - doesnt deserve the finishes
2016-11-15 00:29 [ Emillia ]: 02:20:344 - similarly with the triplet 02:20:155 (1,2,3) -
2016-11-15 00:29 [ Emillia ]: 02:21:863 - theres a triplet here
2016-11-15 00:30 PajWoj: o i will make like
2016-11-15 00:30 [ Emillia ]: thats super obvious you're skipping out on
2016-11-15 00:30 PajWoj: 01:25:661 -
2016-11-15 00:30 PajWoj: yeah i didn't listen closely to the song i guess
2016-11-15 00:30 [ Emillia ]: its up to you as long as you include the important beast
2016-11-15 00:30 [ Emillia ]: beats*
2016-11-15 00:30 PajWoj: thanks for pointing all of this out
2016-11-15 00:30 PajWoj: in those places
2016-11-15 00:30 PajWoj: 01:25:661 -
2016-11-15 00:30 [ Emillia ]: heres like a little word of advice
2016-11-15 00:30 PajWoj: i will make like a circle and a shorter slider should be fine
2016-11-15 00:30 [ Emillia ]: map to what you hear, dont map to what you want to hear
2016-11-15 00:31 [ Emillia ]: 02:25:851 (1,2,1,2,3) - compared to before, what you've done here with the distancing is a bit more obvious
2016-11-15 00:31 [ Emillia ]: 02:30:028 - important drum+piano beat here?
2016-11-15 00:31 [ Emillia ]: 02:44:648 - missing beat
2016-11-15 00:31 [ Emillia ]: 02:46:167 - rip triplet
2016-11-15 00:31 [ Emillia ]: i guess these problems are all repetitive
2016-11-15 00:31 [ Emillia ]: and seeing as how most of the song is the same
2016-11-15 00:31 PajWoj: yeah
2016-11-15 00:31 [ Emillia ]: i doubt i need to continue for similar issues
2016-11-15 00:32 [ Emillia ]: so like rhythm-wise, please do a massive recheck
2016-11-15 00:32 [ Emillia ]: i'll mention other things instead
2016-11-15 00:32 [ Emillia ]: 02:49:395 (1,1) - unrankable iirc, too short distance for recovery
2016-11-15 00:33 [ Emillia ]: 02:56:420 (1) - from here on, the slow bit has a LOT of missing beats
2016-11-15 00:33 PajWoj: what time would you recommend to end it on
2016-11-15 00:33 [ Emillia ]: what time?
2016-11-15 00:33 PajWoj: the spinner
2016-11-15 00:33 [ Emillia ]: well shift it so that theres like at least half a bar of recovery
2016-11-15 00:34 PajWoj: at 02:49:659 -
2016-11-15 00:34 [ Emillia ]: or 1/4 of a bar
2016-11-15 00:34 [ Emillia ]: i guess here 02:52:053 - or 02:51:674 -
2016-11-15 00:34 [ Emillia ]: but they both sound awkward, cuz if it were me i'd map something else instead of spinners
2016-11-15 00:35 [ Emillia ]: i'll just put it out there that i think this whole section is a little boring with the similar patterns that aren't intense 03:28:319 (4) -
2016-11-15 00:35 PajWoj: i could redo this bit with like sliders
2016-11-15 00:35 [ Emillia ]: sure
2016-11-15 00:36 [ Emillia ]: 03:51:674 (1) - not sure of the purpose of these long sliders, they all skip a lot of beats
2016-11-15 00:36 [ Emillia ]: 03:49:775 (1) - p sure this isnt that audible enough, and imo can be mapped better
2016-11-15 00:36 [ Emillia ]: like eg. following the main beat instead
2016-11-15 00:36 [ Emillia ]: 04:17:117 (3) - wayy toomany finishes
2016-11-15 00:37 [ Emillia ]: more missing beats in the final kiai
2016-11-15 00:37 [ Emillia ]: i just think your whole structure of the map is super basic, which is fine but there should be more variability in terms of rhythm, flow and aesthetic
2016-11-15 00:37 [ Emillia ]: like honestly if theres something i kinda need you to do
2016-11-15 00:37 [ Emillia ]: is refer to the ranked ver of this
2016-11-15 00:37 [ Emillia ]: cuz it will help you loads
2016-11-15 00:38 PajWoj: fine thanks a lot
2016-11-15 00:38 [ Emillia ]: on knowing what to emphasize and what not to, when to use spinners, sliders, some patterns etc.
2016-11-15 00:38 [ Emillia ]: so is this mod fine with you?
2016-11-15 00:38 PajWoj: yeah why wouldn't it be
2016-11-15 00:38 PajWoj: it was pretty informative and i've learned from it

Yijun wrote:

the 'finish' hit sounds from ( 01:58:509 (1) - to 01:59:079 (4) - ) sounds bad
thats pretty much it. good luck though

Yijun wrote:

also adding a whistle hit sound to all these locations would sound nice.
03:09:522 (4) -
03:31:927 (7) -
03:36:484 -
03:41:041 (1) -
03:33:066 (1) -
03:38:003 (6) -

some places you could also get rid of some whistles.
03:16:737 (1) -
03:00:218 (1) -
02:59:458 (5) -

just trying to help. again, good luck

PajWoj wrote:

Yijun wrote:

also adding a whistle hit sound to all these locations would sound nice.
03:09:522 (4) -
03:31:927 (7) -
03:36:484 -
03:41:041 (1) -
03:33:066 (1) -
03:38:003 (6) -

some places you could also get rid of some whistles.
03:16:737 (1) -
03:00:218 (1) -
02:59:458 (5) -

just trying to help. again, good luck

thanks a lot again

i would give you another kudosu but i'm not sure if i can

Alphabet wrote:

General:
Imo the beginning (00:02:307 - 00:26:610 - ) could do with a more constant rhythm because you follow some of the background noises whilst also trying to follow the beeps in the foreground. I think you're trying to follow too much and it makes the rhythm inconsistent and some of it doesn't make sense. For example, 00:08:193 - 00:08:382 - you don't follow the foreground noise (i think i actually do) but you do at 00:02:876 (3) - and at 00:10:091 (5) - you don't follow the clapping in the background and completely focus on the foreground for that one slider. If you need help with this you can always ask me for a better explanation. because this isn't really a good one i'll leave this for now

The NC in this map seems very inconsistent and I recommend that you stick to placing one every measure (the big white ticks) if you're not sure about where to put them.

I also think that you're using the kiai too often because nothing in the song really changed apart from the obvious section changes. i put kiai for the most intense parts of the song in my opinion

[Chillout]

1. 00:11:610 (4,1) - This sudden change of flow is weird and can confuse a player. You need to make this flow like you did for the whole of the beginning.i hope its better now
2. 00:19:395 (3,4) - You should use constant distance snapping for these patterns because they are close together and it looks like you want these to be the same distance apart. I pointed this out because it was the most noticeable but I think you should use DS for this whole beginning. i made the slow part when i didnt know much and didnt change it a lot since then. will try to improve it but not today
3. 00:29:648 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why is this spacing so close whereas 00:31:167 (1,2,3,4,5) - is alot bigger? The beats are exactly the same. (I don't think these are the only ones) there are like more noticable sounds right there, but after there was one identical pattern with jumps so i changed that
4. 00:46:737 (2,3,4) - I don't like this because it interrupts the flow. i don't like really long singletap sections, this is a little break
5. 01:03:066 (3,4) - Fix this blanket.
6. 01:12:180 - I think for this part you should raise the hitsound volume here because the song gets significantly louder. there is a 40% point, i don't think i should increase it for now (ill do if someone else complains
7. 01:16:357 (1,2) - I'm not sure if this is meant to be a blanket or not but if it is please fix it.
8. 01:26:420 (4,1) - Could look better as a blanket.
9. 01:31:167 (3,4,5) - Keep the spacing consistent because this breaks the flow that you're building up.
10. 01:58:889 (3,4,1) - ^ (I don't think I've pointed out all of these but look around and fix any that you can find)
11. 02:52:433 (1,2,3,4) - These aren't spaced properly and makes the aesthetics of the map look bad.
12. 03:11:990 (6,7,1,2) - ^those are stacked to the slider, i tried to do something but it looks just as bad tbh
13. 03:47:117 (1) - I don't like this random change in rhythm, the song sounds the same as the previous part. Why change it here?it changes a bit, but i swear if someone else complains ill change it
14. 04:11:610 - 04:34:395 - I'm not sure what's with the finish spam because claps here sounds more feasible.i think it's fine
15. 05:18:825 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Again with the hitsound spam, I think the clap is a better alternative.finish because the song finishes, ha, get it? i just thought it sounded ok

Good luck and call me back if you need more help.

-Vanilla wrote:

I will m4m

00:19:965 (6,1) - Maybe blanket the sliderend with the next slider?

00:24:142 (4,1) - space these out more because 1/1 beat and not 1/2 beat

01:02:307 (1,2) - maybe space these out more, same as ^ but this feels a lot better for some reason

01:06:104 (1,2) - clean blanket

01:09:142 (1) - this isn't centered i think? it snapped for me so maybe

01:11:800 (1) - same

01:16:357 (1,2) - blanket

01:22:243 (3,2,3,4,1) - equal spacing

01:26:420 (4,1) - blanket

01:31:167 (3,4,5) - equal space

01:38:003 (1,2,3) - Maybe overlap these somehow? this was confusing the first time, but the other times I could predict them so I hit them. If you overlap these thats kinda saying to the player that it is a unique rhythm (at least to me it would)

01:57:560 (2,3,4) - iirc this is the only unstacked triplet

02:04:205 (1) - center

02:15:218 (6,7) - you can do this to it

02:58:509 (1) - maybe from here you can map to the synth in the back instead of continuing the pattern before it. This is really repetitive if you keep it the way it is

04:06:863 (1,1) - blanket

04:11:041 (1) - no need to have so many finishes in this kiai.. and they are in the wrong spot too, the should be on any white tick instead, not red.

Something i noticed in the kiais... There are no times where two sliders are after one-another. It is always slider circle circle circle circle for the whole thing, maybe try to add more sliders or just change the patterns of the objects. playing this feels really repetitive and more like a jump training map. (fun tho)

Sklyfe wrote:

Hey sweet map! Not a full mod, but 02:39:901 (7) - could be made a new combo to be read a little better because it's timed a little different from the rest of the combo.

Also, for all the sliders like 03:49:775 (1) - this, I think it sounds better at ~30% volume rather than 5%

Fun map overall!

Plaudible wrote:

Alright, finally here o/

Grynpyret - Boba Beach


Chillout

1. 00:02:307 (1) - From here to 00:14:458 (1) or so, I want you to re-evaluate your rhythm a little bit. You can here the little bloop sound effects, some are held out, some are quick and short. Like 00:04:585 (2,3), this one is held out and would be more appropriate as a slider. But at 00:04:205 (1), you map it as a slider when the only bloop is at the end of the slider. Try to be consistent with these, given that there's not much else you can map to here
   
2. 00:05:724 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - Shapes like this can be improved, using tools like ctrl+shift+d to make geometric shapes and then removing what is unnecessary, give it a try! Can apply to a lot of things in your map.
   
3. 00:04:775 (3,4,5) - Emphasis with changing direction like this can be good. However, it may be more appropriate to use it in the right places. Like here, the high pitched note is on 00:04:775 (3), and I feel emphasizing that with a change in direction is more important than 00:04:965 (4) -
   
4. 00:11:990 (5,1,2) - I feel like establishing some circular flow could make this nicer try this maybe? http://puu.sh/sreD1/623f7776d0.jpg
   
5. 00:14:458 (1,2) - Be careful with sudden increase/decrease in spacing. This transitions poorly into 00:15:218 (3), and I don't think it's necessary for the song. Maybe you were trying to gradually decrease spacing from 00:13:699 (1,2,1,2) so it's not too shocking for players? If so, go for a less aggressive approach. It's good in practice, but if you tone down the spacing so it transitions better it'll be more fitting.
   
6. 00:24:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - I do take issue with this a little. Players have no way of differentiation here. When mapping, you want to avoid making different rhythms appear the same. One is a 1/2 rhythm, and the other is a 1/4, but you stack them the same. I'd space the 1/4 rhythm out so it looks noticeably different compared to the 1/2 stack before, so players don't get confused ^^
   
7. 00:31:167 (1,2,3,4) - Be sparing with how you increase spacing like this. I think areas like 00:38:003 (3,4,5,6) are more fitting since you increase them based on a new "section" of the song starting, but tone it down just a tad, imo, for the aforementioned ^-^ I do think later the increase is fitting though when you do it for when the song starts to change.
   
8. 00:46:357 (1,2,3,4) - Square ish pattern? Maybe re-arrange it so it looks more like one. For sake of flow, I'd ctrl+g both 00:47:117 (3,4) individually.
   
9. 00:48:636 (1,2,3) - Would make more sense to make 3 the further spaced one, imo
   
10. 00:53:952 (1) - Would be cool to align the end curve better with 00:50:914 (1)'s edge.
    
11. 01:01:547 (3) - Something about this doesn't feel right. Is it not just 1/4? Please get more opinions on it.
    
12. 01:06:104 (1,2) - Work on your blankets a bit! Using approach circles is a great way to fix them. Look at : http://puu.sh/srf5F/9f9d05a8fd.jpg versus http://puu.sh/srf7h/39febf6d97.jpg. It looks cleaner, and has better parallel structure. Go through your map and use this strategy to improve your blankets in your map, this is a common issue throughout.
    
13. 01:38:003 (1,2,3) - Neat concept. I'd space them a little closer, though... it's a bit worry-ingly similar to 01:36:674 (2,3,4,5) spacing-wise, and should be more noticeably different.
    
14. 01:39:142 (1) - Putting such an intense kiai start on a slider end felt weird, I was inclined to jump to 2! Make a 1/4 rhythm here, then put a circle on the downbeat?
    
15. 02:15:218 (6,7) - Center the curve to blanket 7 more appropriately.
    
16. 02:22:813 (1) - Potentially better wavy: http://puu.sh/srfkN/dd4c33e935.jpg
    
17. 02:26:610 (1,2,3) - This is more appropriate given the song doesn't lose intensity and neither does gameplay, compared to the other 1/4 sliders you did.
    
18. 03:12:180 (7,1) - Woahh, bit too close >w<
    
19. 03:34:775 (8,5) - Stack these!
    
20. 02:52:433 (1) - From here to 03:46:927 (6) - you use a very geometric structure in your map. The intro is equally as calm, wouldn't it be more fitting to map both the same way? Consistency throughout the map would drastically help, quality wise.
    
21. 03:49:775 (1) - This is technically overmapped, as there are no 1/4 sounds present
    
22. 03:52:813 (1) - ^
    
23. 03:55:851 (1) - ^
    
24. 03:58:889 (1) - ^ Always be sure to listen to sounds at 25% to make sure you're not adding sounds that don't exist in the music
    
25. 04:01:927 (1) - ^
    
26. 04:04:965 (1) - ^ All of these should just be 1/2 rhythms. I'm not going to spam this mod and point out the rest, I'm sure you got it
    
27. 04:59:648 (1) - The kiai drop isn't as large here, but if you fix the other one, for consistency it's better to do so here as well.

I really do like the general flow of the map, you map most of it to fit the mood and it seems to be well hitsounded.

I'm going to pull that, "this map lacks structure" card though, and I know everyone hates to hear it, and I can't exactly give you any direct fixes. I could send you to go watch pishifat videos, and though that may help, it just comes with practice. Go through your map with AR 2-5, and look at what doesn't look good. Overlaps? Bad blankets? Excessive random jumps? There are a lot of things that go into improving quality of structure in a map.

Also, there was some issue with consistency that I didn't enjoy too much. Try to use similar methods for mapping similar parts of the song. The big one I mentioned was the intro being more nicely flowing with unique and different angles to make gameplay fun, but in the second calm part of the song you suddenly take a dramatic turn into very structured and parallel mapping. Consistency shows control of how you are mapping the song, and that you know what to map, and when.

I really think this is a decent map though. You have a lot of potential, seeing that this is one of your first few submitted maps ^^ This is well made. PM me in game or in forum if you have any questions with any bits of my mod, and if you ever need me to mod anything else! Good luck!! <3

Saturnalize wrote:

SPOILER

I rarely do a wall of hitsound mod but since it's one of the essence of mapping...

=====
Hitsound spamming is not always good. I cannot seem to hear that your hitsounding pattern fits the music (let ME be honest, not even the "already qualified" one).

1. 00:27:370 - Despite the low hitvolume (thus making the whistle softer), it should be still following something.
2. 00:40:661 - Though I highly not recommending hitsound like this, I appreciate the bluff here (build up), sounds cool actually.
3. During your kiai, your clap pattern occurs every beat like this:
   
   while it should be like this:
   
   And you actually already implemented it in notes like 02:31:927 (1) - , but lower down the volume so it's more ear-pleasing.
4. 01:40:281 - 02:28:129 ; Soft-hitwhistle might sounds soft and sweet for this song, but putting it like this will get you nowhere, as I also have no clue whether your soft-hitwhistle is following the e.pi synth or not.
5. 04:11:420 - Before you use a very subtle hitsounding and all of sudden it's soft clap finish spam! It is not good, especially since this part is music's clap spam.

I will keep helping with hitsound, so yeah keep it up
=====
Talking about the map itself, it also need a ton of polishing. But I'm pretty sure that you are a hard-worker, so let's just get down to the list.

1. Try to tilt your pattern so it does not sit straight. In my opinion, pattern like that looks plain unpolished, and tilting some pattern gives it "a little bit move, shape, and flow". Sure, it sometimes looks cool, but I feel that this song demands a little bit of sweevy curve (you get what I mean) and not jaggy.
2. 00:38:572 (6) - rather than putting it here, I find it flows better when it is put on 00:37:243 (1) - 's end.
3. 00:44:458 (4) - The flow before is a circular motion. Therefore, it would be better if you put it on the right side of the slider. Don't forget about the distance, though. For example : http://puu.sh/ssRyx/5013031e7e.jpg
4. 00:47:117 (3,4) - Again, the pattern before is a circular motion. To make it happen in this one, ctrl+g EACH of the slider (so it doesn't reverse the order). The (3,4) is actually already a circular motion, but the transition of (2,3) is back and forth, which is jaggy sharp and sad.
5. 00:53:952 (1) - Since you make the red slider starts from this one's slider end, I think it would be better if you make this yellow slider also starts from the purple's slider end too. I mean, consistency.
6. 01:01:547 (3) - The piano actually starts from 01:01:610, repeats under 1/12 beat for four times. It will look like this : http://puu.sh/ssRx4/f342a51b20.jpg
7. And the rest you can read from Plaudible because he literally just summed up almost everything I want to say about your mapping pattern. Sorry! :-(

Call me again if you have got more and more mods. This song is actually kind of cute.

Saturnalize wrote:

SPOILER

I rarely do a wall of hitsound mod but since it's one of the essence of mapping...

=====
Hitsound spamming is not always good. I cannot seem to hear that your hitsounding pattern fits the music (let ME be honest, not even the "already qualified" one).

1. 00:27:370 - Despite the low hitvolume (thus making the whistle softer), it should be still following something.
2. 00:40:661 - Though I highly not recommending hitsound like this, I appreciate the bluff here (build up), sounds cool actually.
3. During your kiai, your clap pattern occurs every beat like this:
   
   while it should be like this:
   
   And you actually already implemented it in notes like 02:31:927 (1) - , but lower down the volume so it's more ear-pleasing.
4. 01:40:281 - 02:28:129 ; Soft-hitwhistle might sounds soft and sweet for this song, but putting it like this will get you nowhere, as I also have no clue whether your soft-hitwhistle is following the e.pi synth or not.
5. 04:11:420 - Before you use a very subtle hitsounding and all of sudden it's soft clap finish spam! It is not good, especially since this part is music's clap spam.

I will keep helping with hitsound, so yeah keep it up
=====
Talking about the map itself, it also need a ton of polishing. But I'm pretty sure that you are a hard-worker, so let's just get down to the list.

1. Try to tilt your pattern so it does not sit straight. In my opinion, pattern like that looks plain unpolished, and tilting some pattern gives it "a little bit move, shape, and flow". Sure, it sometimes looks cool, but I feel that this song demands a little bit of sweevy curve (you get what I mean) and not jaggy.
2. 00:38:572 (6) - rather than putting it here, I find it flows better when it is put on 00:37:243 (1) - 's end.
3. 00:44:458 (4) - The flow before is a circular motion. Therefore, it would be better if you put it on the right side of the slider. Don't forget about the distance, though. For example : http://puu.sh/ssRyx/5013031e7e.jpg
4. 00:47:117 (3,4) - Again, the pattern before is a circular motion. To make it happen in this one, ctrl+g EACH of the slider (so it doesn't reverse the order). The (3,4) is actually already a circular motion, but the transition of (2,3) is back and forth, which is jaggy sharp and sad.
5. 00:53:952 (1) - Since you make the red slider starts from this one's slider end, I think it would be better if you make this yellow slider also starts from the purple's slider end too. I mean, consistency.
6. 01:01:547 (3) - The piano actually starts from 01:01:610, repeats under 1/12 beat for four times. It will look like this : http://puu.sh/ssRx4/f342a51b20.jpg
7. And the rest you can read from Plaudible because he literally just summed up almost everything I want to say about your mapping pattern. Sorry! :-(

Call me again if you have got more and more mods. This song is actually kind of cute.

Plaudible wrote:

Alright, finally here o/

Grynpyret - Boba Beach


Chillout

1. 00:02:307 (1) - From here to 00:14:458 (1) or so, I want you to re-evaluate your rhythm a little bit. You can here the little bloop sound effects, some are held out, some are quick and short. Like 00:04:585 (2,3), this one is held out and would be more appropriate as a slider. But at 00:04:205 (1), you map it as a slider when the only bloop is at the end of the slider. Try to be consistent with these, given that there's not much else you can map to here
   
2. 00:05:724 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - Shapes like this can be improved, using tools like ctrl+shift+d to make geometric shapes and then removing what is unnecessary, give it a try! Can apply to a lot of things in your map.
   
3. 00:04:775 (3,4,5) - Emphasis with changing direction like this can be good. However, it may be more appropriate to use it in the right places. Like here, the high pitched note is on 00:04:775 (3), and I feel emphasizing that with a change in direction is more important than 00:04:965 (4) -
   
4. 00:11:990 (5,1,2) - I feel like establishing some circular flow could make this nicer try this maybe? http://puu.sh/sreD1/623f7776d0.jpg
   
5. 00:14:458 (1,2) - Be careful with sudden increase/decrease in spacing. This transitions poorly into 00:15:218 (3), and I don't think it's necessary for the song. Maybe you were trying to gradually decrease spacing from 00:13:699 (1,2,1,2) so it's not too shocking for players? If so, go for a less aggressive approach. It's good in practice, but if you tone down the spacing so it transitions better it'll be more fitting.
   
6. 00:24:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - I do take issue with this a little. Players have no way of differentiation here. When mapping, you want to avoid making different rhythms appear the same. One is a 1/2 rhythm, and the other is a 1/4, but you stack them the same. I'd space the 1/4 rhythm out so it looks noticeably different compared to the 1/2 stack before, so players don't get confused ^^
   
7. 00:31:167 (1,2,3,4) - Be sparing with how you increase spacing like this. I think areas like 00:38:003 (3,4,5,6) are more fitting since you increase them based on a new "section" of the song starting, but tone it down just a tad, imo, for the aforementioned ^-^ I do think later the increase is fitting though when you do it for when the song starts to change.
   
8. 00:46:357 (1,2,3,4) - Square ish pattern? Maybe re-arrange it so it looks more like one. For sake of flow, I'd ctrl+g both 00:47:117 (3,4) individually.
   
9. 00:48:636 (1,2,3) - Would make more sense to make 3 the further spaced one, imo
   
10. 00:53:952 (1) - Would be cool to align the end curve better with 00:50:914 (1)'s edge.
    
11. 01:01:547 (3) - Something about this doesn't feel right. Is it not just 1/4? Please get more opinions on it.
    
12. 01:06:104 (1,2) - Work on your blankets a bit! Using approach circles is a great way to fix them. Look at : http://puu.sh/srf5F/9f9d05a8fd.jpg versus http://puu.sh/srf7h/39febf6d97.jpg. It looks cleaner, and has better parallel structure. Go through your map and use this strategy to improve your blankets in your map, this is a common issue throughout.
    
13. 01:38:003 (1,2,3) - Neat concept. I'd space them a little closer, though... it's a bit worry-ingly similar to 01:36:674 (2,3,4,5) spacing-wise, and should be more noticeably different.
    
14. 01:39:142 (1) - Putting such an intense kiai start on a slider end felt weird, I was inclined to jump to 2! Make a 1/4 rhythm here, then put a circle on the downbeat?
    
15. 02:15:218 (6,7) - Center the curve to blanket 7 more appropriately.
    
16. 02:22:813 (1) - Potentially better wavy: http://puu.sh/srfkN/dd4c33e935.jpg
    
17. 02:26:610 (1,2,3) - This is more appropriate given the song doesn't lose intensity and neither does gameplay, compared to the other 1/4 sliders you did.
    
18. 03:12:180 (7,1) - Woahh, bit too close >w<
    
19. 03:34:775 (8,5) - Stack these!
    
20. 02:52:433 (1) - From here to 03:46:927 (6) - you use a very geometric structure in your map. The intro is equally as calm, wouldn't it be more fitting to map both the same way? Consistency throughout the map would drastically help, quality wise.
    
21. 03:49:775 (1) - This is technically overmapped, as there are no 1/4 sounds present
    
22. 03:52:813 (1) - ^
    
23. 03:55:851 (1) - ^
    
24. 03:58:889 (1) - ^ Always be sure to listen to sounds at 25% to make sure you're not adding sounds that don't exist in the music
    
25. 04:01:927 (1) - ^
    
26. 04:04:965 (1) - ^ All of these should just be 1/2 rhythms. I'm not going to spam this mod and point out the rest, I'm sure you got it
    
27. 04:59:648 (1) - The kiai drop isn't as large here, but if you fix the other one, for consistency it's better to do so here as well.

I really do like the general flow of the map, you map most of it to fit the mood and it seems to be well hitsounded.

I'm going to pull that, "this map lacks structure" card though, and I know everyone hates to hear it, and I can't exactly give you any direct fixes. I could send you to go watch pishifat videos, and though that may help, it just comes with practice. Go through your map with AR 2-5, and look at what doesn't look good. Overlaps? Bad blankets? Excessive random jumps? There are a lot of things that go into improving quality of structure in a map.

Also, there was some issue with consistency that I didn't enjoy too much. Try to use similar methods for mapping similar parts of the song. The big one I mentioned was the intro being more nicely flowing with unique and different angles to make gameplay fun, but in the second calm part of the song you suddenly take a dramatic turn into very structured and parallel mapping. Consistency shows control of how you are mapping the song, and that you know what to map, and when.

I really think this is a decent map though. You have a lot of potential, seeing that this is one of your first few submitted maps ^^ This is well made. PM me in game or in forum if you have any questions with any bits of my mod, and if you ever need me to mod anything else! Good luck!! <3