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Tatsh - IMAGE -MATERIAL- <Version 0> [CatchTheBeat]

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Rocma
bubble when
Netamaru
+1 goodluck on approval
Moeruattack
rank when 8-)
Underforest

BanchoBot wrote:

When it's finished
Topic Starter
CLSW
NC overhaul has been done ;)
Topic Starter
CLSW
Okay, please do not let this map graveyarded
Deif
Finally got in here!
[General]
  1. Title: It should be just IMAGE -MATERIAL-. Refer to this post p/5185281 . (Shinkyoku) or <Version 0> are simply remarks of the song and can be found in different sources:
    1. http://www.konamistyle.jp/sp/tatsh_material/index.html
    2. Album cover: http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/images.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/image/ra123/users/6/6/7/1/banban1201_1213-img450x600-1452152086czdgqf8160.jpg
  2. Storyboard: You have some fade-ins and fade-outs of the BG picture, but you should activate the "Widescreen Support" option to see it completely. Otherwise the image gets cropped for the users with a widescreen monitor.
  3. Timing: The last timing section at 06:50:969 - has no real purpose and must be deleted. It affects no object and it's currently offbeat (the piano at the end would need some more extra sections to be timed completely, but they weren't mapped anyway).
[Envision]
  1. 02:06:820 (1) - This NC doesn't look so necessary and can be added at 02:07:051 - instead to be consistent with the rest of this section.
  2. 02:13:051 (1) - The slider should be snapped at most with 1/4 beats and not 1/6s as you did. The melody doesn't give hints that those notes should be 1/6s. Moreover, mapping this point with kicksliders instead of a curved stream like 02:13:974 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - doesn't flow that well after the previous pattern 02:12:589 (1,2) - .
  3. 02:13:916 (3) - This note can be removed. The violin pitches starts at 02:13:974 - and that should be the starting point of the stream as well.
  4. 02:41:436 (4) - I'd make this slider face to the right instead. The current transition with the next slider is rather uncomfortable to play and a bit unexpected for this relatively calm section.
  5. 04:54:120 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream is not like the others you did, where you increased the difficulty of the jumps gradually. I'd honestly start with the curved stream you used at the end, and then introduce the sliderstreams. Don't forget adding hypers at least at 04:54:581 - , 04:55:043 - and 04:55:504 - where the main beats sound. The current structure missed the one at 04:54:581 - .
  6. 05:04:273 (3,4,5) - Kinda odd you included the triplet at this spot and not just before the next stanza like in other examples across the map. It fits better the music if you leave a 1/2 slider at 05:04:273 - and you move the triplet to 05:04:504 - instead.
  7. 06:22:273 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is absolutely no-go. Players who managed to get a nice combo until here have ~75% chances to instafail the map because of this pattern, which is frustrating after +6 min of such demanding song. The unexpected direction changes like 06:22:620 (4) - 06:23:543 (4) - or 06:24:004 (4) - with 260BPM make this almost unplayable. Try to something similar as in the previous patterns: a soft introduction and then you can start with the sliderstreams if needed, but give players at least the opportunity to recover if they miss.
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Just a few comments regarding some patterns, but overall I'd give a try to the beatmap. Good job with the stream after the calm part at 04:30:581 - ! Please reply to the suggestions and give elaborate reasons in case you decline them.
Topic Starter
CLSW
Yes I know that last streams are so much overdone, gonna nerf it soon :3 (Actually it was just an experimental pattern which is gonna be existed for temporarily, and inb4 Motion FC'ed until that part and instafailed at there, also he asked me to nerf them)

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All fixed, thank you very much!
Aruel
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Asahina Momoko
i'm so amped for getting this map ranked because am new ctb player HYPEEEEE
Ascendance
SHOW ME THE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
koliron
goooaaaaaoaoao!!
Deif
Delete the unused .osb file and we're good to go.
Artavia
ㄱㄴㅇ?
Topic Starter
CLSW
Updated!

edit : some fixes myself here :
01:43:282 (3,4) - Increased a bit of distances for lookin' better.
01:56:436 (1) - Fixed the slider's shape more naturally.
01:58:282 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6)
03:00:128 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6)
06:10:273 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Overall stream pattern looks pretty not finest for me, so I rebuild these with more curved style.

Please check them first before you decide to bubble, and also please back-up the display title message timing on 00:49:051 :)
Deif
Let's break the pp system a bit more:

#1
Topic Starter
CLSW
Yayyy thanks!

IT'S COMING BOIZ, THE NEW CTB BOSS MAP
SYAHME

CLSW wrote:

Yayyy thanks!

IT'S COMING BOIZ, THE NEW CTB BOSS MAP
Ahhh, I can't wait.

Edit: Make sure to include this map on Osu!Weekly once it get qualify.
CelegaS
Gogogogo qualify it now

:) hype :) hype :) hype :) hype :)
JBHyperion
I'll just drop this here p/5185281 /o/ nvm Deif beat me to it

Good luck!
Topic Starter
CLSW
metadata confirmed
Kagari
so no 8 star diff map and we're just gonna rank a 9 star map right ahead? seems like Windows OS lmao
CelegaS

Kagari wrote:

so no 8 star diff map and we're just gonna rank a 9 star map right ahead? seems like Windows OS lmao
HR augoeides and you have your 8stars :D
Crystal
PLZ GO GO GO
Taboki
Gogogogo :D
JBHyperion
I promise this post will not be as useless as the last!

To whoever intends to push this forward, please be aware that this map has recently been approved - post here. As such, the CtB mapset cannot also enter the Qualified section until Bara-'s map is either ranked or disqualified:

CelegaS
Wtf is this rule lol q_q
Raediaufar
Looks like that map will be dq coz of unsnapped note. GOGOGO QUALIFY
Topic Starter
CLSW
Bara- plz give me a mercy..
koliron
waoawowao time to wait x3

btw i will check later, so placeholder aaaa
Bunnrei
gogogogogo CLSW!

rip my dream of ranking hardest ctb map xd
JBHyperion

Chara wrote:

rip my dream of ranking hardest ctb map xd
same xd
Rockageek
What a coincidence tho, exactly when this map feels ready for rank another std one pops out from nowhere :o And many years since the first image material ranked. I remember same thing happened with black or white, every week a std/mania mapset got qualified, while clsw was waiting for his mapset to be qualified. And at the end, everybody forgot about it because too many mapsets got ranked at the same time.
Hope we won't see another image material map coming out from nowhere when Bara's one gonna be ranked (or DQ bcz there is some issues as it seems)
JBHyperion

Rockageek wrote:

What a coincidence tho, exactly when this map feels ready for rank another std one pops out from nowhere :o And many years since the first image material ranked. I remember same thing happened with black or white, every week a std/mania mapset got qualified, while clsw was waiting for his mapset to be qualified. And at the end, everybody forgot about it because too many mapsets got ranked at the same time.
Hope we won't see another image material map coming out from nowhere when Bara's one gonna be ranked (or DQ bcz there is some issues as it seems)
Saying that Bara-'s set "popped up out of nowhere" is ridiculous, but also disrespectful as you imply that no significant work or effort has been put in to create it. It was uploaded 2 months before this (re-upload after Sangzin's set) and was first bubbled over 6 weeks ago. If anything, the CtB set is the one that popped up more suddenly, at least with respect to the ranking process. Can you please put aside the baseless conspiracy theories that the entire mapping community is out to rain on CLSW's parade?

Saying that people will "forget" this map is a joke - it's pretty much the hardest map ever seriously considered for rank, has already been bubbled (by Deif no less), and judging by comments in both threads, is supported and hyped by many people. The issues pointed out may or may not lead to a DQ, but having to wait one week maximum isn't going to change anything.
Rockageek

JBHyperion wrote:

conspiracy theories
Ahah sorry that offended your mind, I just find it so fun.
As always I spoke like an dumb retard without knowing anything, I've saw this kind of things happen many times.

Forget about it, I'm surely affected by some acute paranoia since I crawl around forums.

EDIT : Sorry to everyone, I can't help myself bringing bs everywhere I write.
I just wanted to make a point of reflexion, not offend anyone by anyway.
I'm quite salty sometimes that's true, but please, don't take it serously, I just want to say funny facts, nothing else :'(
Topic Starter
CLSW
I also respect bara's work though, so please people, don't make crap here x_x
Bunnrei
enjoy game

bara's set means that i can finally s a marathon in std!1
Bara-
Wow
I really hope this will work out well, seeing it's so hard
Not sure if the pp system will like it
I'll wish you the best of luck, hoping that these 6 more days will soon pass on :P
Anyways, you need a #2 first, so you don't need to rush it ^_^

Good Luck!
Ascendance
call me after koli
Bunnrei
hi after koli, nice name
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