Maybe this can be mixed with osu! challenges which were previewed a few months ago?
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Shohei Ohtani
This is an idea that I wanted to expose a long time, I never could because little English.
It's something to consider... if you look at what mostly causes the movement of the games are tournaments or leagues that are managed by the clan system and clanwars, really is something to consider.
It's something to consider... if you look at what mostly causes the movement of the games are tournaments or leagues that are managed by the clan system and clanwars, really is something to consider.
I had actually considered something like this, but never bothered to elaborate on thinking~
But I think it would be a damn good idea,
As CDFA said, there would be the 'giant' clans and a lot of small ones, but there is nothing bad with that at all is there?
Introduction of clan-based games would be a great idea too
As Strager said, clan tags would be fine in multiplayer but not in chat, and limiting it to 4 characters is good too~
This would definitely increase the joining of the community, give people something to work towards collectively rather than just separately
But I think it would be a damn good idea,
As CDFA said, there would be the 'giant' clans and a lot of small ones, but there is nothing bad with that at all is there?
Introduction of clan-based games would be a great idea too
As Strager said, clan tags would be fine in multiplayer but not in chat, and limiting it to 4 characters is good too~
This would definitely increase the joining of the community, give people something to work towards collectively rather than just separately
Topic Starter
strager wrote:
I feel moderators should add members, instead of members joining clans. This seems like less mess in the workflow and prevent spamming. Public clans, which are open to all members, are silly. If someone wants to join a clan, they can ask a clan moderator.
That could work.
I disagree with BAT approval for clan creation.
Then how can we stop stupid clans with names that are derogatory to other members, insult peoples choice of habbits/religion/hobbies, or things that are plain right stupid? There are enough BAT's to decide if a clan is alright to be made, that's why I suggested it.
Would there be any restriction on the number of clans a player can be in? I think one should be the maximum, for simplicity. However, there may be one player who wants to join an osu! clan and a different taiko clan, for example.
I think that it would be more difficult to implement multiple clans, and surely annoying to have a possible 3 tags. If they want to be in an osu!, taiko and CtB clan respectively at the same time, their best bet is to create their own and describe that it's for that reason. One clan is enough.
I wouldn't want my clan name appearing in chat. Maybe in multiplayer, though.
True, maybe an option of hiding it or not? Or just remove it from the #osu channel all together to make it easier.
A clan ladder seems like a good idea, but your implementation seems silly. Clans who play more get a higher rank, instead of things being more skill-based. I haven't thought up completely a system myself, though I have thought about a ladder from time to time. Looking into existing ladder systems in popular games (SC2?, HoN) may be benefitial.
Possibly, this is something I also thought of. Review of other popular ladders would need to be done in that case to make one that fits into it all with no conflict.
strager wrote:
Maybe this can be mixed with osu! challenges which were previewed a few months ago?
That is certainly an idea. Any main thought on how though?
CDFA wrote:
I'm imagining that there will be about 4-5 giant clans, and then a bunch of mini-clans.
True, maybe limiting a clan to a max of X users would need to be made in that case. Possibly 50?
I guess this can work, but having [COOL]CDFA, [OSU]CDFA [LARTOISEX]CDFA <<(4 CHARACTERS NOT 9!) wouldbe kind of annoying, imo.
This is where BAT Approval will be needed.
MashaBISEX- wrote:
This is an idea that I wanted to expose a long time, I never could because little English.
It's something to consider... if you look at what mostly causes the movement of the games are tournaments or leagues that are managed by the clan system and clanwars, really is something to consider.
This was my main idea to begin with.
I said what I needed to in Bold text.Guy-kun wrote:
I had actually considered something like this, but never bothered to elaborate on thinking~
But I think it would be a damn good idea,
As CDFA said, there would be the 'giant' clans and a lot of small ones, but there is nothing bad with that at all is there?
Introduction of clan-based games would be a great idea too
I would love to see a boat load of clan-based games too!
As Strager said, clan tags would be fine in multiplayer but not in chat, and limiting it to 4 characters is good too~
Possibly remove tags from all #osu.
This would definitely increase the joining of the community, give people something to work towards collectively rather than just separately
And this is how the community can strengthen, and we can see more of the less known players come out in full colour.
I think the core community of osu! is a little to small for clans.
Tried and tested?qlum wrote:
I think the core community of osu! is a little to small for clans.
On BAT approval:
I think a better option is to restrict who can create a clan, and ban anyone who abuses this power.
My first thought was to allow those with a supporter tag to create a clan, but this somewhat goes against the philosophy of being a supporter.
My second thought was to allow BAT's to create clans, and have them pass the clan to the person who wanted the clan. This puts more unnecessary load on BAT's, though, but would ideally work better than the first option and maybe even the post-filter process you/Fatty suggested.
Any other ideas on how to weed out shit clans?
I think a better option is to restrict who can create a clan, and ban anyone who abuses this power.
My first thought was to allow those with a supporter tag to create a clan, but this somewhat goes against the philosophy of being a supporter.
My second thought was to allow BAT's to create clans, and have them pass the clan to the person who wanted the clan. This puts more unnecessary load on BAT's, though, but would ideally work better than the first option and maybe even the post-filter process you/Fatty suggested.
Any other ideas on how to weed out shit clans?
A possible idea would be that to create one, you need a maximum of X members (5/10?) with a cumulative Ranked Score of X (5'000'000'000 ish maybe?)
That way its not just restricted to one player needing the prerequisitories to create a clan, but a group of people, some more and some less experienced
This would get rid of most 'for the hell of it' clans with newbs in
That way its not just restricted to one player needing the prerequisitories to create a clan, but a group of people, some more and some less experienced
This would get rid of most 'for the hell of it' clans with newbs in
This is definitely a good idea.Guy-kun wrote:
A possible idea would be that to create one, you need a maximum of X members (5/10?) with a cumulative Ranked Score of X (5'000'000'000 ish maybe?)
That way its not just restricted to one player needing the prerequisitories to create a clan, but a group of people, some more and some less experienced
This would get rid of most 'for the hell of it' clans with newbs in
So you have some good players in a clan who can then help newbies or less experienced players that join the clan.
In general i would support clans but i think you should just leave the clan tags out in chat/irc.
I overall strongly support this, and I remember peppy saying some time ago he wants to move osu off from merely being ranked score whoring (not exact words) and clans would be a great feature for osu
if you pay attention, many OSU players, as several of the tops global players, let them play because they do not have many goals to accomplish, the clans are constant and objectives do not end.
I definitely believe that several would like this.
I definitely believe that several would like this.
This seems like a very good idea to me, the implementation I'm not sure about but the core idea I very much approve of. One thing though; call them "squads", not clans.
This.nardi11011 wrote:
call them "squads", not clans.
or "Team".
Or "Clan".
Ehh where to start, ppl usually go multiplayer with friends (at least for me) which feels less stressful and more fun, competitivity against random ppl "PvP" is one of the most stressful things for me and having clans just promotes this except in groups, im ok just playing multi against my friends and stuff. I dont like this idea at all
+1 for Squads
When competing, I thought of two possible dynamics:
The first system is the one used in the Proleague of Starcraft, the record five players from each team. First play A vs B. The winner will play the second player of team B, and will continue playing until being defeated. And then the winning player will continue playing, and the loser will have to put another player.
The first team to lose five players is the loser. The system would be like "winner still in play"
The second system is used in several league games. It consists of four "1 vs 1" and one "2 vs 2"
The "one vs. one" earns 2 point
The "2 vs 2" earns 3 points
If playing 1v1, the correct way would be Head to head.
If playing 2v2, would tag team or team tag coop.
The first system is the one used in the Proleague of Starcraft, the record five players from each team. First play A vs B. The winner will play the second player of team B, and will continue playing until being defeated. And then the winning player will continue playing, and the loser will have to put another player.
The first team to lose five players is the loser. The system would be like "winner still in play"
The second system is used in several league games. It consists of four "1 vs 1" and one "2 vs 2"
The "one vs. one" earns 2 point
The "2 vs 2" earns 3 points
If playing 1v1, the correct way would be Head to head.
If playing 2v2, would tag team or team tag coop.
Topic Starter
Squads is a much better idea, it's more of a friendlier term than clans.
As for the implementations, I'm so confused by how many ideas that have appeared that I'm actually getting a headache...
As for the implementations, I'm so confused by how many ideas that have appeared that I'm actually getting a headache...
Taiko squad gogo
+squads or something like that.
Also, me likes this
Also, me likes this
I like team! [: It's simple-r.MashaBISEX- wrote:
or "Team".
+ support on this idea~
The best clans I've been in are mainly just a big group of friends. They're so fun and relaxed.Sakura301 wrote:
Ehh where to start, ppl usually go multiplayer with friends (at least for me) which feels less stressful and more fun, competitivity against random ppl "PvP" is one of the most stressful things for me and having clans just promotes this except in groups, im ok just playing multi against my friends and stuff. I dont like this idea at all
This is why I support this idea and why I also believe there is no point on having a hard regulation on clans. Maybe like a 2-week requirement, but nothing too difficult to meet for casual players, which, believe it or not, is a pretty big population of osu!.
Joining asapMittenMasterzz wrote:
Taiko squad gogo
Bump for great clans.
+0.5. I don't think it's terribly necessary because osu! doesn't strike me as being competitive enough, but I have nothing against the idea. I like BAT involvement in clan creation to prevent stupidity. "Squads" is the best name because "clan" sounds too competitive and we have enough things called "team" already.
Actually, it would be cool if "squads" could be expanded into things other than multiplayer scores... But one idea at a time.
Actually, it would be cool if "squads" could be expanded into things other than multiplayer scores... But one idea at a time.
I guess clans could work pretty well in osu! now, since the player base is pretty large.
I was always for fun, but you have to understand that competition is the dynamic that likes most people. If you pay attention, the main global Osu tops and do not find interest in the game, because the ranking system and they tired a bit.
I'm not a global top, but with six billion points I'm a bit disinterested in the game, and that does not happen to me, if not to many people.
Osu can be fun viewed from a competitive standpoint, and at the same time, maintain the interest of the old players for a long time.
The clans, teams or squads, or whatever you call them, are something that would achieve a dynamic much more fun than the current one in Osu, is something to consider.
"I guess clans could work pretty well in osu! now", The perfect phrase to sum up everything I said.
I'm not a global top, but with six billion points I'm a bit disinterested in the game, and that does not happen to me, if not to many people.
Osu can be fun viewed from a competitive standpoint, and at the same time, maintain the interest of the old players for a long time.
The clans, teams or squads, or whatever you call them, are something that would achieve a dynamic much more fun than the current one in Osu, is something to consider.
"I guess clans could work pretty well in osu! now", The perfect phrase to sum up everything I said.
I like this idea a lot!
Then we can play clan wars :3
Then we can play clan wars :3
The Clan/Team/Squad would be optional though,if you find it stressful then stay far away from clans xD An alternative is join but you don't need to take part in the competitive side of it. Kinda like if you're in an MMORPG and you hate fighting people,you can just stick to the PvE part and do instances or whatever but can still join a guild and have fun with guild members,that's what I doSakura301 wrote:
Ehh where to start, ppl usually go multiplayer with friends (at least for me) which feels less stressful and more fun, competitivity against random ppl "PvP" is one of the most stressful things for me and having clans just promotes this except in groups, im ok just playing multi against my friends and stuff. I dont like this idea at all
I personally like the idea,it's definitly interesting to imagine how it'd turn out ^^
Just realized Roko could bring back T@ikoM@ster with this. 0w0
I have yet to see what peppy thinks about this.
I don't see why not.
I don't see why not.
Do it.
Bump for justice.
great!
The only problem I can see with this is that the top players are going to form their own niche, and all the other clans aren't really going to have much of a chance in these clan battles. But on the other hand, I see tournaments working well, maybe some tournaments having a limit to the total total score of the participating clan members. This could be really fun, and it would move osu! away from rank whoring, which is something I'm done with. Trophies for winning some tournaments could be shown in the profile, which truly will accentuate the player's ability.
Also, I think it would be better called a circle. The clans here aren't so much to wreck ass, but more to form friendships.
Also, I think it would be better called a circle. The clans here aren't so much to wreck ass, but more to form friendships.
I preffer Guild :3 but Clan or Squad is good too.
SUPPORT :3
SUPPORT :3
I support this idea.
Do it
Hell's no, I do not want make MMORPG out of this game 
We don't need this.
We don't need this.
No one is asking you to do anything with osu, noobGalkan92 wrote:
Hell's no, I do not want make MMORPG out of this game
Okay, special version for you, in other words:Natteke wrote:
No one is asking you to do anything with osu, noobGalkan92 wrote:
Hell's no, I do not want make MMORPG out of this game
I don't support this. It's as same useless as suggestion about implementing voice chat >.>
rockit_old
I never heard any clan helping the newbies in any game, they mostly lough at them.rockit wrote:
I think clan's in osu! (Taiko, CtB) are good coz------------------>more help for newcomer&beginners; more activity; straight matches are funny!
so...why not?
Shohei Ohtani
You've been playing the wrong games brahqlum wrote:
I never heard any clan helping the newbies in any game, they mostly lough at them.rockit wrote:
I think clan's in osu! (Taiko, CtB) are good coz------------------>more help for newcomer&beginners; more activity; straight matches are funny!
so...why not?
the last 3 mmo's i've played have
I've joined clans that have helped newcomers in freaking Nexon games.
We're talking MapleStory here. Yes, those kinds of clans are in MapleStory. Also, DFO and other games that are known to have stupidity everywhere (DFO is a fun game BTW).
In other words, I agree with Nakata here. There are plenty of clans/guilds that help newer players in many MMOs. osu! has some helpful people on it so there would most likely be some of those here too if it was implemented.
We're talking MapleStory here. Yes, those kinds of clans are in MapleStory. Also, DFO and other games that are known to have stupidity everywhere (DFO is a fun game BTW).
In other words, I agree with Nakata here. There are plenty of clans/guilds that help newer players in many MMOs. osu! has some helpful people on it so there would most likely be some of those here too if it was implemented.
actually I wasn't talking about mmo's. I don't play mmo's because I hate grinding.Ekaru wrote:
I've joined clans that have helped newcomers in freaking Nexon games.
We're talking MapleStory here. Yes, those kinds of clans are in MapleStory. Also, DFO and other games that are known to have stupidity everywhere (DFO is a fun game BTW).
In other words, I agree with Nakata here. There are plenty of clans/guilds that help newer players in many MMOs. osu! has some helpful people on it so there would most likely be some of those here too if it was implemented.
nice idea
My MultiGamingClan purpose too
My MultiGamingClan purpose too
Bump
.... for justice.
.... for justice.
Anyone read this?
I think clans are a great idea. We don't need new forum sections (but it would be great). It's enough to talk via Skype, Steam, Xfire, TS, etc...
Clan war in Team VS mode would be great.
Clan war in Team VS mode would be great.
^NeverDie wrote:
To think such a great idea that was suggested over a year ago has no sign of being implemented till this day is very saddening.
glad theres a potent necromancer to bring this back up!
I very much approve of this! Great idea, as I have too been hoping for user made groups (like bats, devs, mats etc.) for group stats (a little like bf3 platoons).
I stopped to read at this point.Ekaru wrote:
I've joined clans that have helped newcomers in freaking Nexon
MMO =/= MMORPG
Support. If we can already do a team VS, why we can't use it for clan matches?
I think that the word "clan" is
more suitable for MMORPG,
but not for rhythm game. I
think that for osu! would be
more suitable name "Team"
or "Crew" such as DMT.
more suitable for MMORPG,
but not for rhythm game. I
think that for osu! would be
more suitable name "Team"
or "Crew" such as DMT.
Good idea
Clan = All Countrys
example : Clan A = Brazil , Japan , Korean , Indonesian ,etc
What's wrong Championships osu?
Country X has only 10 players, where 3 are good>>>>result = bad
Championships Clan ?
Clan A ( members of Brazil , Japan , Korean,etc ) VS Clan B ( indonesia , norway, saudi arabia,etc )
OWWWWW this is really Great idea
The championships will be even more disputed
Clan = All Countrys
example : Clan A = Brazil , Japan , Korean , Indonesian ,etc
What's wrong Championships osu?
Country X has only 10 players, where 3 are good>>>>result = bad
Championships Clan ?
Clan A ( members of Brazil , Japan , Korean,etc ) VS Clan B ( indonesia , norway, saudi arabia,etc )
OWWWWW this is really Great idea
The championships will be even more disputed
inb4 World War III to decide who gets Cookiezi or White Wolf.
i think it's an okay idea, since it promotes a sense of community. i'd vote if i had stars
My sugestion
Ingame Today
Future with Clan
Clan Pro ( Name of Clan ) + logo + Clan Pro --- 19/100 ( 100 online each clan or 1000 )
+++++ Competitive game
Ingame Today
Future with Clan
Clan Pro ( Name of Clan ) + logo + Clan Pro --- 19/100 ( 100 online each clan or 1000 )
+++++ Competitive game
I really love that idea of having teams/clans or whatever.
I'm not necessarily a fan of clanwars, but the thing i really appreciate about this idea is
that you could form groups with your friends and just organize games with others in a completely new dimension
that would be really funny i think.
the other point is that it could be helpful for new players if they had the possibility to play with more experiences players in their team
(Let's be optimist and imagine their won't be any bad comments towards new players)
for the clantags or whatever we can call it. maybe it can be displayed on the left side of the userpage?
since this part can be seen ingame the problem where to put it would be solved..........
Anyway i support this idea
I'm not necessarily a fan of clanwars, but the thing i really appreciate about this idea is
that you could form groups with your friends and just organize games with others in a completely new dimension
that would be really funny i think.
the other point is that it could be helpful for new players if they had the possibility to play with more experiences players in their team
(Let's be optimist and imagine their won't be any bad comments towards new players
)for the clantags or whatever we can call it. maybe it can be displayed on the left side of the userpage?
since this part can be seen ingame the problem where to put it would be solved..........
Anyway i support this idea
Topic Starter
Looking at this two years after I suggested it I should add that my stance on it has slightly changed. I still support the idea of course, but it's moved from the sake of having tags, looking cool, and essentially grouping up to have the "best players ever" to something along the lines of encouraging users to engage with each other.
I love the enthusiasm from other people, which is great. A lot more here then I expected.
I'd edit the original post, but if this was to be considered for future implementation, then I'd rather have it looked at from the original and work on it with suggestions from others.
I'm for the name "Squads". Not to mention, the original osu! idea was for a male cheering squad exerting their ki to people to help better themselves, so essentially encouraging group interaction. This is also another thing as they're found at sports games, so a "Squad on Squad" situation would be presented as well. Although, the way the community is at the moment, compared to back then when I did suggest it, well... Let's just say it's taken a turn for the worse.
I'd love to see this happen though, I seriously do.
I love the enthusiasm from other people, which is great. A lot more here then I expected.
I'd edit the original post, but if this was to be considered for future implementation, then I'd rather have it looked at from the original and work on it with suggestions from others.
I'm for the name "Squads". Not to mention, the original osu! idea was for a male cheering squad exerting their ki to people to help better themselves, so essentially encouraging group interaction. This is also another thing as they're found at sports games, so a "Squad on Squad" situation would be presented as well. Although, the way the community is at the moment, compared to back then when I did suggest it, well... Let's just say it's taken a turn for the worse.
I'd love to see this happen though, I seriously do.
Example of osu with Clan ^
Scroll bar on the right side to see all clan members
Scroll bar on the right side to see all clan members
yey thanks peppy. you made my sundaypeppy wrote:
I started work on a system that will address the "clans" request, but called it teams. I haven't yet completed or worked on it in over half a year, but it does exist.
I can't wait to see this
Topic Starter
Well I'll be damned... I didn't think you'd have started work on something similar. That's quite intriguing. We'll have to see where it goes from here. I'll spend some time tomorrow re-formatting the original post and including that. Seems this has gained 20 stars overnight.peppy wrote:
I started work on a system that will address the "clans" request, but called it teams. I haven't yet completed or worked on it in over half a year, but it does exist
I hope to make it similar to niconico communities, which encourage communities to grow in order to unlock cool stuff. Also it will be used for potential multiplayer matching/tourneys, and who knows what else .
.I really really like the idea of teams over clans. It feels like it'll push collaborations into osu! and have movements towards ranking and mapping more songs from specific genres. The word "clans" gives off the idea of an MMORPG to me.
kindut
Viking clan. Scandinavians only.
lol
lol
Good Lucky ^^theowest wrote:
Viking clan. Scandinavians only.
lol
Topic Starter
I re-did the first post. It's more of a "Why" rather then a "How" now, since peppy is already working on it.
SnowReborn
WOW this would be fun! very nice idea, i use to think about this but didn't really put a thread for the request, it surely would make multiplayer much more fun and give us some chance to hook up some friends all that as well as benefits new players having a good start(pros carry new players), also suggest support clan logo, just like avatars, every clan should have their own logo. support + 1 
daaamnnn why did i gave away my last star ;A;
I would certainly love and play osu! more often if it was more competitive and this seems to be the closest thing to it
I love competing against others in multiplayer (but no one's ever playing taiko during the day in my time zone). Having teams competing against each other could be interesting...
~Support, if only i had stars left... Oh well, settle for a bump...
I love competing against others in multiplayer (but no one's ever playing taiko during the day in my time zone). Having teams competing against each other could be interesting...
~Support, if only i had stars left... Oh well, settle for a bump...
I just wanted to open one thing for discussion.Is the system going to allow users to join more than one team if they want to or will this be something that's left to the discretion of the teams' administrators?
Most likely it would be limited to only one team...benguin wrote:
I just wanted to open one thing for discussion.Is the system going to allow users to join more than one team if they want to or will this be something that's left to the discretion of the teams' administrators?
If you consider the fact that people may play have to play for both teams if they've joined both it doesn't quiet add up well and is impossible to do in real time... How would you play for two teams that are playing against each other but you've joined both?
An example would be"everyone's favorite" - Abuse of the system
Like:
- Joining all of your friends teams
- Try to join every team with highly skilled people
Let's go!theowest wrote:
Viking clan. Scandinavians only.
lol
i suddenly want this added even more now *_*Saten wrote:
Let's go!theowest wrote:
Viking clan. Scandinavians only.
lol
I'm joining the CTB clan then.
I wonder how many people are going to try to call their team thatH_Hitachiin wrote:
I'm joining the CTB clan then.
Example:
- osu! Clan
- Taiko Clan
- CTB Clan
- osu!mania Clan
Of course, it doesn't make sense for one person to play for two or more competitive teams at once. However, I'm sure many teams, once they get going, would have their own community aspect as well and some people may want to join that team just for the community involvement as opposed to just joining teams based off of statistical advantages to winning games. Perhaps, if users were able to designate which team is their "main" or "playing" team, so that way the user could be on multiple teams but when it comes to mp or other competitive things, they have to play for the team they designated ahead of time as their "main/playing" team. Just a suggestion.Kuro wrote:
Most likely it would be limited to only one team...benguin wrote:
I just wanted to open one thing for discussion.Is the system going to allow users to join more than one team if they want to or will this be something that's left to the discretion of the teams' administrators?
If you consider the fact that people may play have to play for both teams if they've joined both it doesn't quiet add up well and is impossible to do in real time... How would you play for two teams that are playing against each other but you've joined both?
An example would be"everyone's favorite" - Abuse of the system
Like:
- Joining all of your friends teams
- Try to join every team with highly skilled people
she_old
I approve! ^^
Cant wait Starred
Starredmaybe on every song have a clan ranking where the top 10 or so clan scores on that song are added to form a "clan score" that has its own ranking
Team effort!
Team effort!
This is an extremely awesome idea.
I bet there will be clan "Tentacles" from Chinese speaking communities lol
Any update on this? Peppy's last post was 5 months ago...
Any update on this? Peppy's last post was 5 months ago...