Daidai+FLHD when?winber1 wrote:
i will start my own challenge
i will try to reach rank 2k from rank 1.7k in a month. tune in on my non-existent twich channel everyday to see a black screen
Daidai+FLHD when?winber1 wrote:
i will start my own challenge
i will try to reach rank 2k from rank 1.7k in a month. tune in on my non-existent twich channel everyday to see a black screen
*HRHTKhelly wrote:
99% HR whenEndaris wrote:
I shall try and follow your path.
why don't u watch my stream and find outchainpullz wrote:
Daidai+FLHD when?winber1 wrote:
i will start my own challenge
i will try to reach rank 2k from rank 1.7k in a month. tune in on my non-existent twich channel everyday to see a black screen
It pretty much means you all have the same base level of skill in your respective skillsets to get to rank 1k because if you didn't all have at least that level of skill you wouldn't get there in the first place.[Taiga] wrote:
Being a 1k with 5-6k pp doesn't mean having skill of players in 1k rank.
Khelly wrote:
It pretty much means you all have the same base level of skill in your respective skillsets to get to rank 1k because if you didn't all have at least that level of skill you wouldn't get there in the first place.[Taiga] wrote:
Being a 1k with 5-6k pp doesn't mean having skill of players in 1k rank.
Except some skillsets/mods give more pp for a certain amount of skill. A 1k player with only EZ scores would be more skilled than a 1k player with only DT scores. A 1k player with only nomod scores would be more skilled than a 1k player with only DT scores.Khelly wrote:
It pretty much means you all have the same base level of skill in your respective skillsets to get to rank 1k because if you didn't all have at least that level of skill you wouldn't get there in the first place.[Taiga] wrote:
Being a 1k with 5-6k pp doesn't mean having skill of players in 1k rank.
The player who has reached 1k with a harder mod combination will be more skilled within their mod combination compared to a player who has reached 1k with an easier mod combination. I think it's a pretty well established opinion in this community that some mods are easier to get pp with than others. If you want to debate this, tell me it's just as easy to get pp with FL only as it is with DT.Khelly wrote:
Would a 1k with nomod only be more skilled at DT than DT only? Would 1k with hr be better than 1k at nomod? Or nomod at hr? How can you compare these?
I think you're entirely missing the point when you bring up FL; it's not a relevant mod and you only bring it up to mask the fact that you don't want to address what's harder or easier about each mod combination and seek to compare them amongst each other with the same definition of skill, and your first sentence is meaningless since you're saying someone who specialised in X mod is better at X mod than someone who specialised in Y not X.B1rd wrote:
The player who has reached 1k with a harder mod combination will be more skilled within their mod combination compared to a player who has reached 1k with an easier mod combination. I think it's a pretty well established opinion in this community that some mods are easier to get pp with than others. If you want to debate this, tell me it's just as easy to get pp with FL only as it is with DT.Khelly wrote:
Would a 1k with nomod only be more skilled at DT than DT only? Would 1k with hr be better than 1k at nomod? Or nomod at hr? How can you compare these?
I don't need to explain in what ways mods are hard compared to each other, all I'm trying to get you to understand (getting you to understand simple concepts is extremely difficult) is that some mods are harder to get pp with given the same amount of skill. If you had two identical players who had the exact average amount of talent of all osu! players and got them to each play a different set of mods, then for example the one who played DT would have more pp than the one who played nomod.Khelly wrote:
I think you're entirely missing the point when you bring up FL; it's not a relevant mod and you only bring it up to mask the fact that you don't want to address what's harder or easier about each mod combination and seek to compare them amongst each other with the same definition of skill, and your first sentence is meaningless since you're saying someone who specialised in X mod is better at X mod than someone who specialised in Y not X.
Here's the simple concept that you seem to not be able to get. Saying "the same amount of skill" isn't a statement that means anything until you can figure out how you can judge an "amount of skill" between different skillsets.B1rd wrote:
I don't need to explain in what ways mods are hard compared to each other, all I'm trying to get you to understand (getting you to understand simple concepts is extremely difficult) is that some mods are harder to get pp with given the same amount of skill. If you had two identical players who had the exact average amount of talent of all osu! players and got them to each play a different set of mods, then for example the one who played DT would have more pp than the one who played nomod.Khelly wrote:
I think you're entirely missing the point when you bring up FL; it's not a relevant mod and you only bring it up to mask the fact that you don't want to address what's harder or easier about each mod combination and seek to compare them amongst each other with the same definition of skill, and your first sentence is meaningless since you're saying someone who specialised in X mod is better at X mod than someone who specialised in Y not X.
Either it is as easy to get pp with FL as it is with DT, or some mods are harder to get pp with than others.
Thanks Kelly, I appreciate that.Khelly wrote:
@OP
Maps I found hard to fc at the time and took awhile to fc:
Early DT adventures:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/160106 Acc pp not fc pp
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/96142
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/116876
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/98501
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/129755
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/168988
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/83427
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/543814
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/133852
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/144572
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/609741
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/66775
Mid DT adventures:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/97119 Really fucking annoying map still
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/166237
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/87066
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/345283
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/76419
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/106734
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/72358
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/472110
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/82174
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/97119
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/167094
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/88733
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/145561
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/154693
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/120015
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/135810
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/65810
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/522773
Late DT adventures:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/130255
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/30407
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/479235
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/116023
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/195548
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/57628
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/116760
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/125957
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/653335
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/167300
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/416403
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/123392
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/104621
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/460456
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/433440
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/36524
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/453565
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/172501
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/83354
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/70667
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/471971
Modern DT adventures:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/540798
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/124321
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/291996
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/556162
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/446256
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/757823
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/50430
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/116739
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/805256
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/355154
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/97134
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/746468
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/328472
Fc all these and you still won't be 1k.
Wtf lmao no. There is only so much you can farm before you actually have to improve. I can't farm to rank 1 with 350pp scores.Ezonie wrote:
It's totally doable. If u just keep playing farm maps for a month u'll eventually fc enough of them to end up ranked 1k.
Tho at the end of the 1 month u'll probably be a 1k that's worse than pretty much all the other people ranked 1k skills-wise and will never beat them on non-farm maps / multi / tournaments
Don't know if that's what u're hoping to achieve
People forget that while rank 11k-~3k is just about who plays more maps, there's a pretty huge cliff somewhere in the 280-300pp range where you stop being able to farm what feel like sub 200pp maps. Even more the case the higher you go from there. 1k has been out of this range for a few months at this point. You actually do have to get "good" at this game to break 3 digits these days. Whether that means "good" at acc'ing shitty sub 2 minute meme maps with HR, or "good" at comboing shitty 60 second spike maps with DT, or actually being good in the well rounded consistent sense is still highly debatable.Bauxe wrote:
Wtf lmao no. There is only so much you can farm before you actually have to improve. I can't farm to rank 1 with 350pp scores.Ezonie wrote:
It's totally doable. If u just keep playing farm maps for a month u'll eventually fc enough of them to end up ranked 1k.
Tho at the end of the 1 month u'll probably be a 1k that's worse than pretty much all the other people ranked 1k skills-wise and will never beat them on non-farm maps / multi / tournaments
Don't know if that's what u're hoping to achieve
Getting a single 295pp score is useless if you can't shit out a bunch of similar scores in that range. Especially considering there are a handful of 300pp scores you could get without actually being able to farm scores at that level. Daidai, ok dad, and santa san are all good examples of this. If the only 300pp scores you can get are of this caliber than your consistency will not be of the caliber required to break 3 digits. Take khelly for example. Hes not even 3 digits and won't get so much as +1pp for setting a 260pp score. These super farm maps are hardly even equatable to the average 260pp score tbh. More like 220-240 range.HamsterCurry wrote:
Total PP is calculated by a sum of a geometric series plus the bonus according to the FAQ.
Let's assume it takes at least 6300pp to break top 1k and you can farm infinite maps.
By my calculations, 295 is the magic number.
If you cannot get at least around 295 as your best score, then this should theoretically be impossible even if you farm infinitely maps.
Of course you cannot farm infinite maps, but I am letting you know mathematically the minimum point at which it would become impossible to attain 1k ranks if we are to assume 6300pp to break it.
Work on getting at least a 295, then farm. GL.
Ezonie wrote:
Farming to rank 1 is so much more different from farming to rank 1k. The thought of comparing them sounds dumb lmao.
Atm, since there are plenty of maps that give 300-ish pp with the required effort / skill of around daidai DT or slightly more, it pretty much means that the moment u can get a 300pp score ( without some crazy luck ), getting to rank 1k without really improving is very much doable.
If u lack the skill / consistency to continuously spit out 300 pp scores via farm maps, it can be made up with persistence and maybe some luck. OP got 1 month to get his skills there before spamming retries as many times as he can / wants to.
If a person uses this method to get to rank 1k, it'll only be natural that his actual skill level will be lower than the other 1k players who take the time to hone their skills too instead of just mindlessly grinding pp scores trying to get a higher rank.
Using some common sense, it's obvious that this method is less and less feasible the better the rank is, so idk wtf is the point in bringing up an example of farming to rank 1 with <400 pp scores