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LKs
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both the two ctb diffs make me disappointed.
i cant understand why ppl always map “impossible" diff. just wanna awesome appraisal ?
map's created should made ppl happy. ctb maps has not a complete mapping system yet , but this isn't means mappers can abused the "red fruits" and unreasonable JUMP.

star.
Randy96
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:P
Verdisphena
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Verdisphena
Hey!
Taiko time (8)

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [Verdi's Taiko].osu
LirsRosso
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?
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Shino
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Here, my CtB diff.
I rearranged most of 'Lost'.

LKs wrote:

both the two ctb diffs make me disappointed.
i cant understand why ppl always map “impossible" diff. just wanna awesome appraisal ?
map's created should made ppl happy. ctb maps has not a complete mapping system yet , but this isn't means mappers can abused the "red fruits" and unreasonable JUMP.
Troubled my mind. Very, very much.

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [Crow'z Lost].osu
DJPop
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Thanks for the diffs, updated...


Any feedback are welcome (need :P )
Leorda
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100 Map!!!! (*ﾟ∇ﾟ)
KanaRin
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LKs wrote:

both the two ctb diffs make me disappointed.
i cant understand why ppl always map “impossible" diff. just wanna awesome appraisal ?
map's created should made ppl happy. ctb maps has not a complete mapping system yet , but this isn't means mappers can abused the "red fruits" and unreasonable JUMP.

star.
HEY:D my map isn't impossible to FC :D joynama had FC my diff.And many player miss 4~10 only.
Anyway,my diff isn't good :( It's sorry...
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Curisu
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100th :)
Shino
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DJPop wrote:

DJPop wrote:

I need some collaboration in mapping Taiko & CTB.
Any Taiko & CTB diffs are welcome, then we'll take the votes.
Vote the best for each mode.
[My votes]
Taiko : ignore's Taiko
CtB : Crow'z CTB
Mapper 31
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Only 1 Taiko?
:0

....:3......

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [31's Taiko].osu
DJPop
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samiljul wrote:

Only 1 Taiko?
:0
....:3......

Yes, at least for now...
Can be changed if pass the guideline.


Added.
arien666
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Taiko Judging :3

[Celebrate for 4 Taiko]
Wow! Good job for Taiko making on EXTREME song :3
It doesn't seem easy work but good job :3
But, I'll check yours without private-things

[DJPop] Rate = 8/10
:3...
02:32:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Sudden HS change seems little hard orz
02:47:030 (1) - If it was end on 02:50:905 , It would be better :3
02:55:592 (1) - imo, HS 0.5 seems better ;_; it's TOO SLOW

[ignorethis] Rate = 8.5/10
Good for [Oni (Normal)] style. Maybe, people can beat this map easier :3
01:50:780 (20,21,22,23,24) - ;_; Sudden 1/4 stream is not good on 1/2 world :3
01:54:780 (41,42,43,44,1) - ^
01:58:780 (20,21,22,23,24) - ^
02:02:780 (41,42,43,44,1) - ^

[samiljul] Rate = 8/10
Good patterns :3
02:11:030 (645,646,647,648,649,650,651,652,653,654) - WUT the sudden 1/3 things???
02:39:030 (885) - If this was not 'Finish', it seems better :3

[Verdisphena] Rate = 6/10
Actually, 1/2 Normal+Big mix patterns are not good...
02:03:280 - I don't like adding break on this song ;_;
02:35:280 - ^
02:47:030 - NEVER! 1/8 stream is NOT GOOD unless that's Hataraku(166 BPM) ;_;



Okay???
This is all what I can say ;_;
Anyway, good luck.



ps. Don't give kudosu please :3
lepidopodus
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Well, as there was something wrong with site and my modding post is gone, so I should rewrite this :(
Anyway arken already made nice modding, what a relief.

DJPop's Taiko
It's much better than first one, but it's still hard. Actually these patterns are pretty good but BPM is too high... (Mapping song with high BPM is quite hard.)

ignore's Taiko
Difficulty is ok, but I think this one has too many d k d k d k d k and k d k d k d k d, and I don't like stream of the big notes in the end cause it is very hard to get full score with that.

31's Taiko
Pattern is nice, but you need to made it simpler than now. I think 1/3 is too much for this high BPM.

Verdi's Taiko
Too high note density. Seriously, can you find someone can FC this?

If I choose one, I'll choose 31's Taiko (though it need to be fixed.)
Well, let's find more Taiko experts...
eddieee
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gratz dj pop fun map, but check out the hard diff it seems a little too easy for me...
anyhow -STARRRR- :) :) :)
karta454515
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Star~ nice map:D

so many diffs lol
Mapper 31
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lepidopodus wrote:

31's Taiko
Pattern is nice, but you need to made it simpler than now. I think 1/3 is too much for this high BPM.
저에게도 어렵게 보이긴 하는데,1/3이 그리 어려웠던가요? 알켄도 1/3이 조금 갑작스럽다고 하기도 하던데.

어쨌든 고치긴 해야겠죠 태클이 들어왔으니 :-0
(sorry because of use korean)
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Mapper 31
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Fixed

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [31's Taiko].osu
aabc271
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Hi~
Here is my Taiko judging~
I may not be not a good judge, so these are my suggestions only ^^"


[Overall]
Overall
~Good points~
- All 4 taiko mappers tried their best to make the map become difficult~


~My suggestions for improvement~
- Consider about the BPM of the song while mapping.
The BPM is 240, which is higher than most of other songs
A 1/2 note with BPM of 240 = a 1/4 note with BPM of 120, and
A 1/4 note with BPM of 240 = a 1/8 note with BPM of 120 !
Therefore i strongly recommend to use less 1/4, otherwise the map may become too difficult



[DJPop's Taiko]
DJPop's Taiko
~Good points~
- I like the patterns from 00:59:030~02:03:030, where the density is lower than others~


~My suggestions for improvement~
-Consider about the BPM, it is still a bit too difficult to have consecutive 1/2 + 1/4 streams ( eg: 02:19:030~02:25:030 )
-00:30:530 (5~8) idk if this is my problem or what, i find this pattern confusing. But i'm not sure if it is acceptable for other players
-02:06:530 (5~8) ^
-02:43:030~02:46:905 - I don't recommend using all big notes because the BPM is high. (Those 1/2 are equal to 1/4 with BPM of 120)


~Comments~
I like your taiko mapping style where the notes are not so dense~
The rest are fine since this is your 1st time mapping Taiko diff
Good job for 1st attempt at Taiko mapping~ :)
Rate: 7.5/10


[31's Taiko]
31's Taiko
~Good points~
- Used different patterns throughout the song~
- Balanced the use of patterns for both Marisa and Miku~
- Not overmapped~
- Cut the kiai time in 3 parts so that it won't become so long~


~My suggestions for improvement~
- The whole song has quite a lot of long 1/2 + 1/4 streams. Maybe a little bit tiring to play, but it is acceptable
- 02:34:030 (844~854) Maybe a bit too difficult to FC?


~Comments~
Nice overall, a reasonable diff with different patterns~ :)
Rate: 8/10


[ignore's Taiko]
ignore's Taiko
~Good points~
- Limited use of 1/4. ( Not overmapped at all~ ) :)
- Nice pattterns


~My suggestions for improvement~
00:30:530 (13~16) Same as DJPop's issue. A bit too confusing?
02:06:530 (13~16) ^
02:43:030~02:46:905 - Same as DJPop's issue. I don't recommend using all big notes because the BPM is high.


~Comments~
Nice oveall~
I'm happy to see a easier Taiko diff~ :)
Rate: 8.5/10


[Verdi's Taiko]
Verdi's Taiko
~Good points~
Found nothing :?


~My suggestions for improvement~
- I am sure this is overmapped. It is definitely impossible to hit the 1/4 + 1/6 steams at the end. Nearly nobody can pass it :o
- Don't use random big notes in the song? It is too confusing.


~Comments~
To be honest, i think this map is a failture since it is just too difficult to play :o
Needs to reduce the notes a lot to become playable ( esp. all 1/4 and 1/6 notes)
Rate: 3/10


If I choose one, I'll choose ignore's Taiko because it's difficulty is not too high~
Star and good luck~ :)
Takuma
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CDFA Normal:

00:39:030 (1) - small jump? ORZ

---

Kind of a disappoinment to be honest. ): I was expecting a more crazy and fun difficulty.

I nominate DJPop's Taiko and Crowz CTB.
Selee
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;)
lepidopodus
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I asked several players and they think ignore's Taiko is best cause it's the easiest one. Yeah, seems players like easy map and others are quite hard.
DJPop
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Thx, lepi. :)
I saw many people vote his map too.
If nobody objects, ignore's Taiko will be chosen. ;)

Only CTB mode left... I still need CTB players to choose the best 1 from 3 :(
MMzz
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DJPop wrote:

Thx, lepi. :)
I saw many people vote his map too.
If nobody objects, ignore's Taiko will be chosen. ;)

Only CTB mode left... I still need CTB players to choose the best 1 from 3 :(
I object! Until I get to look at them all, witch i'm doing right now.

EDIT: Ok after playing them all it's obvious Ignore's should be added, it's mapped very solid for this song. (Not a huge amount of 1/4 beats, but more of a solid rhythm) Just a few things about ignore's diff. After every slider the note after it is to close (The note and the end of the slider need to be at least 1 measure apart) Other than that it's fine. :3
Krisom
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BTW, did you recheck the artist? Or ask someone who knows who did the mix =x? I'm still unsure about IOSYS being the artist
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pandabun wrote:

CDFA Normal:

00:39:030 (1) - small jump? ORZ
OH MY GOD FINALLY SOMEONE ACTUALLY MODDED MY DIFF OMG >wwwww<

Also, can you either change my diff to "Justin Bieber's Normal" or add Justin Bieber to the tags?~
pieguyn
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I made a CTB diff. Hope it's good. :)

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [pieguy's CTB].osu
Shohei Ohtani
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Wait, if you're going to change the name to Justin Bieber's Normal, can you still add CDFA to the tags? :D
Zekira
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Justin Bieber's Normal
Oh god no

Do you realize the calamity that DJPop would be involved in if that happens

EDIT: Wait a minute why the hell does this have too many difficulties now

DJPop, what did you do :< None of us are worthy of your maps
DJPop
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Zekira wrote:

EDIT: Wait a minute why the hell does this have too many difficulties now
DJPop, what did you do :< None of us are worthy of your maps
There are 4 osu! diffs, no more.

As I said in first posted...
(tl;dr) I accept only 1 Taiko & CTB from the whole. Let's choose it =w=
pieguyn
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Fixed a whistle I forgot to remove...

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [pieguy's CTB].osu
Zekira
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So where's lepido's Taiko D:

Anyway, I'll give a vote for the Taiko later.

...make my vote count plz :/

Although that argument at the first post is a bit poor though... they like it because it's the easiest? WTF is up with that.

EDIT: So far...

...none of the remaining Taiko difficulties follow a simple Taiko rule:

Slider velocity must be 1.4
Since DJPop's is closest I'll give that a point for now. Going to look at chart now.

EDIT2: Verdi's version has like, poor note choice. Definitely not taking that one. 3/10

EDIT3: I give an 8/10 for DJPop's.

EDIT4: 5/10 for 31's.

EDIT5: 7/10 for ignore's.

It's sad actually, I can see different parts from the different sets that would work well if you combine them all. May I take the trouble and make a difficulty based on the patterns that I've liked within all the difficulties?

Would you allow me, DJPop? So that we can settle this Taiko voting once and for all
Sanjenin Nagi
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star~☆★

and taiko map ignore's taiko good
gdeath
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Star for your 100th beatmap
Congratulation!!^.^
DJPop
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Zekira wrote:

Would you allow me, DJPop? So that we can settle this Taiko voting once and for all
Yes, pls :D
Zekira
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Alright I'll get to it maybe tomorrow

Since I liked DJPop's the most, most of the parts will be coming off from there.
Mapper 31
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delete my taiko
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus

Zekira wrote:

Alright I'll get to it maybe tomorrow
If you can satisfy others with that... I'll see.

EDIT :
@Zekira - You know, this song has high BPM, and putting hard patterns can make evil map and seems players don't like it.
And I know 'the easiest is always the best' is wrong, but with this BPM, mapper can easily make evil map and that's not good. I know you are one of the best player but you should think about others like me. (Ok, actually I couldn't pass none of them because the keyboard sucks and BPM is too high.)
Just don't make that one too evil. I'm quite worried about that.

And currrently ignore's Taiko got most supporters. Only two (Yeah, that's you and me.) voted other ones. Maybe you should consider that?
(Actually only 7 people voted as I know XD)

samiljul wrote:

delete my taiko
Not yet.
RebornMAC
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good enough
Zekira
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I'm rating from both perspectives here actually

I felt that ignore's Taiko was undermapped a bit

Verdi's was horrendously overmapped

DJPop's is well balanced, but it has some parts that I wish was overmapped a bit (it fits the song and doens't feel out of place, unlike Verdi's)

31's also sports some good points, but it isn't as intuitive as DJPop's

To be fair I can't pass any of these without using my keyboard at home except ignore's. When using my keyboard, I can barely pass Verdi's though (if I don't ragequit before that due to random note placement)

Well here's the compilation of the best patterns from all difficulties that I just pulled together

All I added was that random note in the end for FC breaking

Suggestion DJPop: 6x is too low, make it something like 8x or 16x

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [Zeki-katsu's Judged Taiko].osu

LOL it's a Namco type combo number (987)

Offset sounds a bit too late too, maybe you'd want to -10 it or something

EDIT: lepido, not to be bragging, but don't you think your opinion on Taiko maps is usually going to be stronger than the opinion of other players? I mean, you're a Taiko mapper and you have a high level of Taiko sense. I speak from that Taiko sense, and I know that you did too.

This song is just asking for something insane, something that can rival the difficulty of Ryougen no Mai. It's just the song's nature. The only problem remaining is to not overmap it.
lepidopodus
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@Zekira: If you think so. But there are something need to be fixed.

02:47:030 (T) - I know x6 is permitted in Taiko but maybe BAT won't permit it.
02:50:998 (2) - What's this !?
02:55:280 (T) - Maybe BAT won't permit x0.2. (And I've never seen something slower than x0.5)
Zekira
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Actually that's my remaining problem; HS still isn't implemented yet.

Though according to Ephemeral we can use red lines for that. Just multiply 240 by HS lol

Probably gonna break some resnaps, but eh...

02:50:998 (2) - What's this !?
Anti-FC note.
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lepidopodus
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Zekira wrote:

Anti-FC note.
lol that's too much
jk?
Zekira
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Woohoo



I think my keyboard broke

EDIT: So I just played the [Lost] difficulty right now

I thought it lost the Marisa wa Taihen feel

Then I got to the last part

I was like

"OH GOD YESSSSSSSSS"

DJPop you win another pink star from me haha
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lepidopodus
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Zekira wrote:

I think my keyboard broke
almost broken? (You FCed anyway lol)

EDIT: Anyway I don't think note like 02:50:998 (2) is permitted...
Zekira
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EDIT: Anyway I don't think note like 02:50:998 (2) is permitted...
How come though? Some (many) Taiko charts require utter memorization, and this is only one note lol...
lepidopodus
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EDIT : nvm... I just want to stress why putting 1/8 notes between slider and spinner is bad.
Zekira
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Wait orz fixed something I didn't notice before

Again this difficulty is basically a compilation of the patterns that I like from the other currently existing Taiko difficulties here.

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [Zeki-katsu's Judged Taiko].osu
DJPop
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Zekira's Taiko looks good :D

But nobody choose CTB yet... If still no, I'll choose by myself '__'
Frill
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:)
Darksoul_old
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i choose siupain's ctb

the beginning of pieguy's is good ,but after beginning,there r too many hyperdash,i dont think is necessary

and yoki's ctb...hmm i dont think its a map,that;s all

and crow'ctb.i think it;s good but some part should hard but he did easyD: and some part should easy but have many jump D:

and star :3
KanaRin
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i'm siupain:3
fixed some mistakes and change the diff name to Kana's CTB
thanks.

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [Kana's CTB].osu
pieguyn
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Removed quite a few of the hyperdashes (though the ones in that one part near the start are staying because I think they fit). Thanks Darksoul for the feedback! :)

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [pieguy's CTB].osu
DJPop
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Updated :)
xBubu
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Go
arien666
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[To all Fruit Market owners CtB makers]
Good job on this song :3
Good luck for your own maps XD

[crowzen2] Rate = 8.2 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 86+3/100+20(89/120) :3(Violet)
Good patterns, but some droplets are like ;_;

[KanaRin] Rate = 7.9 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 93+8/100+20(101/120) :3(Silver)
Some quick dash are hard imo ;_;

[pieguy1372] Rate = 8.4 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 78+1/100+20(79/120) :3(mid-Violet)
Enough easy and Enough hard :3
But... I do not think that Kiai on this song is not good idea imo ;_;
01:11:280 (2,3) - Reduce distance?
01:13:030 (1,2) - ^

[yokijudai] Rate = 7.9 / 10
(aru's CtB difficulty line) 59+0/100+20(59/120) :3(Red)
So so :3



Another judging but...
I'm not good at CtB ;_;
Zekira
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I'm not good at CtB ;_;
This is a problem. There's obviously a CtB community in osu!, maybe it would be best if DJPop could just PM the well known CtB names to go ahead and rate the CtB diffs here...
arien666
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Zekira wrote:

I'm not good at CtB ;_;
This is a problem. There's obviously a CtB community in osu!, maybe it would be best if DJPop could just PM the well known CtB names to go ahead and rate the CtB diffs here...
Actually, CtB is also part of osu! but...

1. No CtB project like aquabluu's Taiko project ;_;
2. No icon about CtB diffs on WEB-search :3 [osu! = star, Taiko = circle, CtB = ???)

;_;
Should I start about CtB club :3...?
DJPop
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I've seen a CTB fansite but seems like it was gone...

The problem is that I don't know anyone who is very good at CTB - -"
joynama
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Darksoul wrote:

i choose siupain's ctb

the beginning of pieguy's is good ,but after beginning,there r too many hyperdash,i dont think is necessary

and yoki's ctb...hmm i dont think its a map,that;s all

and crow'ctb.i think it;s good but some part should hard but he did easyD: and some part should easy but have many jump D:

and star :3
agree :D
siupain's CTB is nice~
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pieguyn
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Updated. Thanks arien666 for the feedback. :)

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [pieguy's CTB].osu
DJPop
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Updated pieguy's CTB
Snowy Dream
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Nice~~！！！ :)
-maJu
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My opinion is that kana's CtB is the best... :3
Hurude Rika
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good luck!
MMzz
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/me had an idea after reading all of lepido's and Zeki-don's post.

Solution = Just don't add a taiko since this song is obviously to retarded to map. (It's a good song just in mapping sense it's terrible)
matthewhln
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MMzz wrote:

/me had an idea after reading all of lepido's and Zeki-don's post.

Solution = Just don't add a taiko since this song is obviously to retarded to map. (It's a good song just in mapping sense it's terrible)
Agree

and

star~~ :)
DJPop
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Isn't "Lost" alone too difficult to play in Taiko? :<

I think Zekira's Taiko would satisfy most skilled Taiko players since Lost's last part is a machine gun lol
ZHSteven
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congratulations to your 100th map~~XD Like your map very much~
it seems that the map will be extreme... shoushitsu X marisa...
o btw do you still accept new ctb diff now? i want to make one~XD
star~
o almost forget the vote for each ctb diff~~:
SPOILER
crow's ctb: i think this diff cannot catch the whole song..like darksoul says..when i think the place will be hard, it is easy...but the seems easy part contains losts of red fruit= =
kana's ctb:the whole diff is great~XD but only one problem..i don't like the way using red fruit..it makes it almost like tag map. it is not good for a normal map contains the jump like tag map~~XD
pieguy's ctb:wow~it contains a lot of traingle fruit which i cannot do well....i like the way using these traingles~but maybe... it can be more jumper(only my suggest~)
yoki's ctb:well.... i don't know how to say but..these exteme jumps like flyaway will be human killer...i guess even a very skilful player cannot do it well...
steven's ctb(coming soon...if possible~~XD)
so i think pieguy's maybe the best~
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ZHSteven wrote:

o btw do you still accept new ctb diff now? i want to make one~XD
Too late, sorry :(
Thx for the vote btw.
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Change Justin Bieber's Normal to CDFA's normal >w<
Shino
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Shino
Okay, okay. Checked the votes.
I give up.
Remove my diff as soon as possible please.
I don't want to see mine's poor status anymore.
DJPop
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CDFA wrote:

Change Justin Bieber's Normal to CDFA's normal >w<
>__>" done.


crowzen2 wrote:

Okay, okay. Checked the votes.
I give up.
Remove my diff as soon as possible please.
I don't want to see mine's poor status anymore.
I was planning to upload all Taiko ? CTB guest diffs in uppy and add in the first posted.
I've removed yours, but if you want to add to first posted too just call me ;)
MMzz
Elite Mapper
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MMzz

DJPop wrote:

Isn't "Lost" alone too difficult to play in Taiko? :<

I think Zekira's Taiko would satisfy most skilled Taiko players since Lost's last part is a machine gun lol
yeah but there is nothing we can do about the lost diff since it's osu!, it will get played on Taiko anyways.
No need for 2 crazy things for taiko. >_>
TheVileOne
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Personally I think all the CTB diffs are completely unplayable with those custom beats. You shouldn't be able to see through the beats. It makes the notes blend so much with the background, it's ridiculous to play.
matthewhln
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matthewhln

DJPop wrote:

Isn't "Lost" alone too difficult to play in Taiko? :<

I think Zekira's Taiko would satisfy most skilled Taiko players since Lost's last part is a machine gun lol
Due to words of DJpop,I have tried all of the taiko difficult and lost
(Pass all difficult if I can for three times and choose the best one)

I will post out the result and my view
(Suggestion:Please pay more attention on accuracy and HP state than others)

Ok,let begin

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Lost
Result
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Fail with 74.40%

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HP drain rate is too high for taiko
Also 1/8 in BPM 240 is nearly impossible for taiko
Since it is for Solo,nothing can be blamed


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DJpop's taiko
Result
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1/4 with 3 notes steam is some kind of confusing since this song possess a very high BPM,
like [00:35:030 - 00:38:905]
Different 1/4 pattern (3 notes steam) is much more confusing
like [00:57:030 - 00:58:905],[02:19:030 - 02:22:655],etc

Other 1/4 3 notes is little confusing even they are not stick together
like[00:44:655 (6,7,8)],[00:46:655 (6,7,8)],[00:48:655 (6,7,8)]

Others are fine
Rating:6.75/10


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Zeki-katsu's Judged Taiko
Result
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Very likely with DJpop's taiko, so it possess nearly same problem as DJpop's one

Expect at [00:44:655 (6,7,8)],[00:46:655 (6,7,8)],[00:48:655 (6,7,8)]
It changed it to 5 note with same pattern, this is more better

But there is another problem,
[00:57:030 - 00:58:905],1/4 steams in 240BPM with diffierent colour combined, WTF?

Rating:7/10


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31's Taiko
Result
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Possess TOO many confusing patterns

Good steams though
(Some kind of exciting when playing the map lol)

Seems this is aim for pro-players only
Rating:6.5/10


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ignore's Taiko
Result
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Jackpot XD,oops, that's not the point lol

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Easy pattern,Yeah XD
Using 1/2 or yellow bar instead of 1/4
Most "player-friendly"

But lack of steams, a bit too easy for this song
Rating:7.75/10


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Verdi's Taiko
Result
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Fail with 62.25%


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"Insane" pattern
"Crazy" steam
"Lunatic" 1/8 (BPM 240)

HP drain rate is higher than [Lost]

What I can say is:Even Lost is more better than this
Rating:2.5/10


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To conclue,
There might be really need a taiko difficult for this since Lost is too hard for taiko
I will suggest [Ignore's taiko] among them
Zekira
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Zekira
Simple but effective criticism IMO.
corno
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corno
Only CtB D:
I'm not really good at criticizing, but the best CtB difficulty so far is pieguy's.
For Kana's: I think inclining the sliders that start at 02:03:030 would be good, your difficulty is my favorite. :D
Shana
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Shana
hmm.. i'm not maper , but I think

[CTB diff]

Kanarin Diff is best..

like slider , Hehe :D
Berncastell
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Berncastell
kana's CTB is very good!!!
kana's CTB is very good!!!
kana's CTB is very good!!!
kana's CTB is very good!!!
eru
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eru
Kana's CTB = 8/10
great, i think kana is good at making ctb diffs lol
ctb gods will be satisfied by this ._.

pieguy's CTB = 8.5/10
this diff suits me the best, idk why lol

yoki's CTB = 6.5/10
sorry but in my opinion as a ctb player, slow bpm with little beats to catch is annoying -_-"

btw
STAR~!
DJPop
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Scores updated, thanks for the votes :)
wmfchris
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wmfchris
Not going to post my score...
Generally rrb rrb rrb rrb rbb rbb rbb rbb rbr rbr rbr rbr don't match the song.

DJpop's taiko
~pattern repeats too much
~slow part pretty natrual
~speedy R B R B, I don't know why the last R B R B slowed down.
~big notes spam, though acceptable for BPM 240
~fast slider
Rating : C

Zeki-katsu's Judged Taiko
~WTF? Part of this identically same to other diffs
~I like r b b r b b r b b rbbbb
~The rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbrrbbrr stream ._.
~kiai starts too early? I prefer ~2:05 or even 2:44
Rating : C+

ign's taiko
~Good.
Rating : A-

31's taiko
~pretty good before 2:22 that's unpleasant streams
~rrr bbb rrr R that's good
Rating : B

Verdi's taiko
~"inhuman"
~That's a TAIKO DIFF not a SOLO DIFF dude
Rating : E

Conclusion: ign's taiko : >
Semi_Semi
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Semi_Semi
congratulations for your 100th beatmap!!

so nice~


star~
Sawaya
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Sawaya
i think kana's CTB is the best :)
Zekira
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Zekira
~WTF? Part of this identically same to other diffs
Because I just took parts of the other difficulties and pasted it to a diff. None of those notes are my idea

Derp

Priority Taiko diffs are ignore's and Zekira's. Which will you choose?
Just choose both there so that there's both a Muzukashii and an Oni
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus

Zekira wrote:

Muzukashii
nope
Backstep
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Backstep
No comment. :?

สุดจะบรรยายครับ :3
Zekira
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Zekira

lepidopodus wrote:

Zekira wrote:

Muzukashii
nope
:(
DJPop
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Ready to be ranked!! :D

ignore's Taiko & KanaRin's CTB are nominated, congraz ;)
Please recheck your diff, is there anything you want to change?



Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [DJPop's Taiko].osu
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Derekku
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Derekku
Why isn't Hatsune Miku in the tags? o-o;
DJPop
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Derekku wrote:

Why isn't Hatsune Miku in the tags? o-o;
Added :oops:
Krisom
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Also, did you recheck the artist :v?
I'm still unsure about the correct one, ask for more opinions, as IOSYS has nothing to do with the musical composition of this =P . I'd use NicoNicoDouga as the artist, though I'm unsure...

I'll try to figure something out >_<

Good luck!
arien666
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arien666

DJPop wrote:

Ready to be ranked!! :D

ignore's Taiko & KanaRin's CTB are nominated, congraz ;)

aru wrote:

[ignorethis] Rate = 8.5/10
Good for [Oni (Normal)] style. Maybe, people can beat this map easier :3
Maybe, I picked up good choice ;_;
Good luck for ignorethis :3
pieguyn
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pieguyn
Nooooooo

Anyway, good luck. :)
ignorethis
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ignorethis
rokodo has made some suggestions and i changed a bit in my dif

Download: IOSYS - Taihen na Mono no Shoushitsu (DJPop) [ignore's Taiko].osu
Mashley
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Mashley
Modded by request of CDFA on my 'post someone else's map' queue.

Easy
Fine

CDFA's Normal
Disagree with the slowdown. This 'song' never stops being a total mess.
01:27:780 (1) - Remove new combo
01:31:280 (1) - ^

Hard
00:43:030 (1,1,1) - These long holds are kinda boring...

Taiko
Fine

CTB
Playstation buttons for fruits? Eh?
The hyper jump is so fast, you might need to add an epilepsy warning... lol

Lost
02:17:405 (4,5,6,7,8) - That triple would work better as a slider, atm it's really awkward
02:33:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Less new combos please.
In the stream... yes, THAT stream, there are sliders that begin at the same time as another slider ends. Kind of impossible, so fix it.
KanaRin
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KanaRin

Mashley wrote:

CTB

The hyper jump is so fast, you might need to add an epilepsy warning... lol
That's okay for CtB player :D
DJPop
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Mashley wrote:

CDFA's Normal
Disagree with the slowdown. This 'song' never stops being a total mess.
01:27:780 (1) - Remove new combo
01:31:280 (1) - ^
CDFA's choices.

Hard
00:43:030 (1,1,1) - These long holds are kinda boring...
Fixed.

Lost
02:17:405 (4,5,6,7,8) - That triple would work better as a slider, atm it's really awkward
Fixed.
02:33:030 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Less new combos please.
Followed the lyrics. :D
In the stream... yes, THAT stream, there are sliders that begin at the same time as another slider ends. Kind of impossible, so fix it.

Fixed. Hard to fix because osu! can't zoom in any more :(
ignorethis
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DJPop wrote:

Fixed. Hard to fix because osu! can't zoom in any more :(
do you know that you can zoom in more in timing interface (twice as usual) and then switch back to mapping interface ;)
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