1. 00:14:531 (7,1) - NC inconsistency
2. 00:17:841 (1,2,3,4,5) - This combo should be divided into two on (3) for consistency
3. 00:28:186 (1,2,3) - Why is this mapped with 1/2 sliders when the rhythm is exactly the same as 00:29:427 (1,2,3) which is mapped with 1/1 circles (repeats in the following combos as well)
4. 00:37:496 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Far too much reliance on 1/2 patterns for a Cup diff in my opinion, a simpler rhythm would be more appropriate for the difficulty at this bpm
5. 00:50:945 (5,1) - 00:54:255 (4,1) - etc. - More NC inconsistencies
6. 01:10:807 (1,1) - Insufficient reaction time between note-spinner, especially considering the short length
7. 01:14:531 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These combos are pretty long for a Cup diff imo, dividing into 2 would be more comfortable

1. 00:02:945 (1) - This is the only note that requires dash until 00:35:221 and a lot of the notes that you are trying to emphasise with dash such as 00:11:221 (1) - 00:15:048 - etc. are edge-case dash scenarios where the player is uncertain whether dash is required or not. This makes them confusing to read and uncomfortable to play, so slightly more spacing on the "dash" notes would be very welcome
2. 00:07:703 (6,7,8) - These feel unnecessary in this diff, it leaves no spread in note density to the higher diffs and a huge gap up from the Cup
3. 00:21:565 (1,2,1,2) - This flow just feels really repetitive and unfitting, a smoother flow without the zig-zags would be more appropriate here
4. 01:00:048 (3,4,1,2) - The amount of movement required here feels really excessive compared to your other patterns and could catch newer players by surprise
5. 01:06:876 (2,3) - 01:09:152 (2,3,1,2) - Underemphasis of prominent notes by giving them zero movement just feels boring to play and doesn't do the song justice
6. 01:27:152 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Same as 00:07:703 (6,7,8) - mapping all of these feels unnecessary in this diff, regardless of the spacing

1. 00:04:600 (1) - Hdash feels unnecessary here since the music is so quiet, a regular dash would be enough
2. 00:16:600 (3) - Why is there no hdash here when there's one for an identical sound in an identical rhythm at 00:10:393 (4) - ?
3. 00:21:152 - Why is this beat unmapped?
4. 00:26:117 (1) - 00:32:738 (1) - These sliders just feel lazy, more movement would be more appropriate for the difficulty
5. 00:33:979 (2,3) - I'd swap the order of these, ending a slider on the strong beat feels really weird and a NC here would be more than welcome

1. 00:07:290 (5,6,7,8,1,2) - This feels really stuttered and awkward to play. Making 00:07:703 (6,7,8) curve to the right and Ctrl+H 00:07:910 (1,2) would play much better imo
2. 00:19:496 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is plainly overmapped, there are no 1/4 beats here at all
3. 00:44:738 (4,3) - These sliders are pretty uncomfortable to play, the SV doesn't need to be this high
4. 01:10:186 (4) - I'd angle this slider more vertically, or reduce the hdash strength, since it's really easy to overshoot and droplet miss here

BoberOfDarkness wrote:

wtf who change this awesome pattern to this shit 00:07:290 (5,6,7,8,1) -

Feerum wrote:

Grats Raika :3

Really fun Beatmap. Nice Hitsounds. Everything Nice. <3

LordRaika wrote:

@JBHyperion...

hmm about the NC, ( i dont even have to look at it , i already knew what you want to say )
even if i have to repeat myself from 10 months ago till now, i will gladly do it.... :

"What is a NC? and a new combo on CTB works SLIGHTLY different from all mode, when you catch fruit (1) , it will have the effect to BURST out all the rest of the catched fruit of previous combo, THIS, is what i aim to greatly emphasize the cymbal... you should LOOK on the gameplay on how things goes, NOT only too focused on editor." i cant see this is so wrong , and according to what i aim on most NC, i believe its already consistent enough that i break the fruit on mostly cymbal/crush sound.
I agree with this idea, and I like it, but it's done inconsistently, which was my point. Sometimes you NC'ed on the downbeat, sometimes on the beat after it. Please don't assume that I only looked at this in the editor and didn't play the map. I put every effort possible into each and every one of my mods, and it hurts me to think that you feel otherwise.

and nope! i must say i test everything and make it as good as possible, u cant just say its unpolished.
surely nothing you say is unrankable... and for rain, IT DOES have 1/4hi-hat sound, or even, you can use 1/8 for the noise sound.... (1/8 repeating slider, i jst dont wnt to do this), sry... i just cant see any problem, everything you said... might be a hasty judgement, because most of it is intentional by myself.
Of course I can say that I feel it's unpolished, as it's my personal opinion. The whole point of modding is for people to share their opinions - you can't just flat out call someone's opinion wrong. If you re-read my post, I never said that anything was unrankable, just that I felt it could be improved before being ranked. But hey it's qualified now so the QATs will handle it from here.

Thank you JBHyperion , for the check ^^

1. A higher AR is recommendable for this difficulty, which such a high number of HDashes. I'd go for 9.
2. 00:07:290 (5,6,7,8,1) - This plays quite bad, combining 2 different type of HDashes and a spaced stream.

1. Some dashes of this difficulty deserve using AR8 instead of the current one. It felt somehow slow.
2. 00:07:290 (5,6,7,8,1) - The transition to the next slider is quite abrupt, and should be softer (low-spaced triplet + extreme dash).
3. 00:26:117 (1) - Make it end at 00:27:152 - . It's the only diff where you mapped a spot at 00:27:255 - , and tbh making the slider finish at the red tick is the best option.

1. 01:00:048 (3,4,1) - This isn't appropriate at all for this kind of difficulty. The required movement and precision is rather high, and it'd be recommendable to move (4) to the right side instead.
2. 01:09:979 (1,2,1) - It's also quite exaggerate to have the first objects stacked, and then BAM super dash. Make the transition softer, plus convert (1) into a simple note. It's not that necessary to have a 1/2 slider there.
3. 01:26:738 (1) - I wonder why you ended this slider at the blue tick 01:27:048 - while you did it on the white tick 01:26:945 - in Platter/Rain. Make it consistent.

1. 01:10:807 (1) - This is slider is, firstly not necessary at all and should be a simple circle, and secondly too close to the spinner taking into account the difficulty and the AR. I'd rather get the spinner started at 01:10:807 - and leave that slider complete away.
2. 01:26:738 (1) - Same slider as in Salad. Get the distance consistent throughout all difficulties.

1. Cup: This kind of difficulty doesn't need so many beats mapped. If you look at this example at 00:01:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) -
   
   You currently have this:
   
   
   
   That could be like this instead:
   
   

Deif wrote:

[Platter]

1. 00:07:290 (5,6,7,8,1) - The transition to the next slider is quite abrupt, and should be softer (low-spaced triplet + extreme dash).

This... Before it was just a simple full normal dash for all (5 6 7 8 1)
next mod i made it into simple walk for all of it.
next and next and next mod and finally they want me to add spacing between 8 and 1
some player disagree but its not hard at any rate so its not really a missable pattern.

and now, do i have to... make it back like ... WHAT? what kind of pattern.
simple walk and no dash? TBH, the current pattern is more than easy even for ME to do it...
(just simple walk and dash) i think its logical enough for this part.

currently i dont change this. only regarding this section.

The same thing happen on Rain, 00:07:290 - "This plays quite bad, combining 2 different type of HDashes and a spaced stream."
my 2 simple question and my answer :
1st : is it even hard?
>> no, just 1 simple full dash
2nd : is it even unrankable?
>> from ALL BAT&BN from last year generation till now(you should know the pain by now) for the current one HD, its not an issue, its even appear only on Rain.


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LordRaika wrote:

TQ People... this is my last update.

Equim wrote:

come back pls ;_;

1. 01:27:910 - Add another green line here with 5% audio volume in each difficulty, this will emphasize the lower sounding of the song at the very end a little better.
2. I observed that some of your hitsounds vary +1/-1ms, just make sure to resnap everything again.
3. Why is 'The animation' written with caps in the source? According to most sources in the web I found the source should be: 'Choujigen Game Neptune: The Animation'. Please can you explain that to me?

1. 00:09:565 (1,2,3) - , 00:12:876 (1,2) - Both of these have the same rhythm, so please decide how you wanna map them. I expect a little more consistency here.
2. 00:33:979 (1,2) - Relatively awkward this pattern has, for a Cup at least. A softer slider movement would be great to avoid any confusion for a newbie, in example:
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 01:00:048 (3) - CTRL+G this and move it back to x96 for a better flow direction towards the next note.

1. 00:01:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - To have dashes like that at the very beginning of the song is a big nope to me, nobody expects that to happen and the music is still pretty low in compare to the rest of the song. Please decrease distances between these patterns drastically. In example you used way lower distances at 00:04:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - even though it's the same rhythm, on this part I am also not a fan that you used the same direction in these patterns 3 consecutive times. But this is up to you to change as well.
2. 00:07:703 (6,7,8,1) - If you really wanna use a stream in your salad that much, please make it at easy as possible. With that I mean here especially decreasing the distance a little between each circle in order to maintain a bit of better spread to your cup.
3. 00:12:876 (1,2,3) - , 00:13:703 (4,5,6) - Both of these patterns play kinda the same, make sure one of them is the opposite direction to provide a better flow in here, e.g. a symmetrical pattern.
4. 00:14:531 (7) - Shouldn't this one actually have the NC instead of 00:14:738 (1) - ?
5. 00:15:358 (3,4,5) - 1 or 2 grids to the right to avoid this ugly wall pattern, please. Same for 00:24:462 (1) - , just to the left.
6. 00:33:979 (1,2) - Shouldn't this have the same distance snap as the next note as you had at 00:35:014 (1,2) - , 00:35:841 (1,2) - , and so on... ? I mean when the same rhythm repeats a second time you did it here as well 00:40:600 (4,1,2) - . I would apprecate being 00:40:600 (4,1,2) - and 00:33:979 (1,2) - being consistent in the timeline if possible.
7. 00:54:255 (8) - I am really not a fan of screen wall patterns, but oh well.
8. 01:10:807 (1) - Would appreciate this to be more in the center to have a better connection to the spinner that actually seems to start on the left, the preparation time for this spinner is pretty short already and for a newbie it might be hard to catch all bananas in time.

1. Not the biggest fan of this Platter due to the constant 1/2 mapping but that's your style and I don't plan on destroying it. For future maps maybe try to make more use of longer sliders and such. I also have a few issues with some hypers in this but more to this in my mod below.
2. 00:07:290 (5,6,7,8,1) - This whole pattern is just awkwark. Here is an example how to improve this a lot in terms of readability:
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 00:20:531 (7,8) - , 00:27:358 (2,3) - , 00:33:979 (2,3) - , 00:35:014 (1,2) - , 00:35:841 (1,2) - , 00:36:669 (1,2) - , 00:40:807 (1,2) - , 00:41:635 (1,2) - , 00:42:462 (1,2) - , 00:43:290 (1,2) - , 00:44:738 (4,5) - , 00:45:979 (3,4) - , 00:47:841 (2,3) - , 00:48:669 (2,3) - , 00:55:290 (2,3) - , 01:01:083 (1,2) - , 01:01:911 (2,3) - , 01:03:772 (1,2) - , 01:09:979 (5,6) - Yeah well that's the main problem in here. Did you follow this discussion recently? t/385492. Please, make sure these are no Screen Border Hyperdashes, all of them. It destroys the actual gameplay of your Platter because my catcher is stopped all the time in a very forcible matter. They will very likely lead to a disqualify if you don't fix them because it's really, really annoying to play like this.
4. 00:21:565 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - , 00:28:186 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - What blatantly annoys me in these section is the constant 1/2 mapping you did in here. The vocals and such give much more than that, this does not emphasize the music very well. Have a timeline suggestion:
   
   SPOILER

   
   (For reference: The timeline starts at 00:28:186 - and ends at 00:33:979 - .)
   I also want to mention that decreasing the density in here is beneficial since the combo gap between platter and rain is very low right now.
5. 00:32:738 (1) - Let this slider end at 00:33:772 - or 00:33:979 - , but not on a 1/4 tick please.
6. 01:27:979 (9,10,11) - Make sure this is not on the screen wall, and for better flow make sure 01:27:565 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - have opposite directions.

1. 00:07:841 (8,1) - HDashes inside a spinner, in a Rain? Keep that stuff for an overdose. Not cool at all. Have a suggestion to simplify the pattern:
   
   SPOILER

   
2. 00:13:703 (6,7,8) - You can keep this pattern if you like but make sure that (6) and (8) are not that close on the screen border, again...
3. 00:19:496 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Not a fan of this tbh, but I am pretty sure you wanna keep it. So to at least have a better emphasize I suggest a hitsounding in here, in example giving a whistle hitsound to each (1), sounds so much better to the music.
4. 00:21:565, 00:28:186: Same as mentioned in platter. Both sections have a purely mapped 1/2 rhythm which feels exaggerated and now well emphasized to the music at all.
5. 00:44:738 (4,5) - That would be pretty much a Screen wall hyper again, please fix that similar as in Platter, same for 00:45:979 (3,4) - .
6. 00:50:531 (5,6,1) - ^
7. Alright I won't continue you here with that, please go through the difficulty again, you used plenty of screen wall hypers in the kiai. Make sure to change them all. (and don't forget the one after the kiai at 01:23:221 (3,4) - )
8. 01:12:669 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is pretty overmapped, get rid of the 1/4 notes and make sure it follows the actual rhythm.

Blind Justice wrote:

Equim wrote:

come back pls ;_;

TheBronyGames wrote:

4 month bubble, and nothing since, do i smell a nuke incoming?

Sey wrote:

Placeholder

A short note: Because of the troublesome Platter I normally would have popped this bubble but since I see the map has been ignored for 4 months already I will take care of the qualify, but for this I expect cooperation with you and please take the platter mod especially as serious as possible.


[General]

1. 01:27:910 - Add another green line here with 5% audio volume in each difficulty, this will emphasize the lower sounding of the song at the very end a little better.
2. I observed that some of your hitsounds vary +1/-1ms, just make sure to resnap everything again.
3. Why is 'The animation' written with caps in the source? According to most sources in the web I found the source should be: 'Choujigen Game Neptune: The Animation'. Please can you explain that to me?

-done
-WHICH ONE? all i check are all in a proper snap, SB hitsound as well. i also dont remember ever change timing. could be osu weird behavior due to sick update of osu stable version lately?
-i jst simply copy paste it! whatever it is, this is easy fix and only take few second for it.

[Cup]

1. 00:09:565 (1,2,3) - , 00:12:876 (1,2) - Both of these have the same rhythm, so please decide how you wanna map them. I expect a little more consistency here.
2. 00:33:979 (1,2) - Relatively awkward this pattern has, for a Cup at least. A softer slider movement would be great to avoid any confusion for a newbie, in example:
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 01:00:048 (3) - CTRL+G this and move it back to x96 for a better flow direction towards the next note.

-i'll make the first one same as the 2nd one
-k
-k

[Salad]

1. 00:01:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - To have dashes like that at the very beginning of the song is a big nope to me, nobody expects that to happen and the music is still pretty low in compare to the rest of the song. Please decrease distances between these patterns drastically. In example you used way lower distances at 00:04:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - even though it's the same rhythm, on this part I am also not a fan that you used the same direction in these patterns 3 consecutive times. But this is up to you to change as well.
   
   simply reduce the range and i will keep it.
   
2. 00:07:703 (6,7,8,1) - If you really wanna use a stream in your salad that much, please make it at easy as possible. With that I mean here especially decreasing the distance a little between each circle in order to maintain a bit of better spread to your cup.
   
   yes, and so i reduce it a bit, (dont expect too much), dw.. i ensure its jst a super simple normal walk that even a new salad player wont miss it.
   
3. 00:12:876 (1,2,3) - , 00:13:703 (4,5,6) - Both of these patterns play kinda the same, make sure one of them is the opposite direction to provide a better flow in here, e.g. a symmetrical pattern.
   
   no, pls no, they are not the same, sry i cant use sym pattern here.
   
4. 00:14:531 (7) - Shouldn't this one actually have the NC instead of 00:14:738 (1) - ?
   
   i did it for cymbal like : 00:54:255 (8) - , 01:00:876 (4) -
   
5. 00:15:358 (3,4,5) - 1 or 2 grids to the right to avoid this ugly wall pattern, please. Same for 00:24:462 (1) - , just to the left.
   
   k
   
   
6. 00:33:979 (1,2) - Shouldn't this have the same distance snap as the next note as you had at 00:35:014 (1,2) - , 00:35:841 (1,2) - , and so on... ? I mean when the same rhythm repeats a second time you did it here as well 00:40:600 (4,1,2) - . I would apprecate being 00:40:600 (4,1,2) - and 00:33:979 (1,2) - being consistent in the timeline if possible.
7. 00:54:255 (8) - I am really not a fan of screen wall patterns, but oh well.
8. 01:10:807 (1) - Would appreciate this to be more in the center to have a better connection to the spinner that actually seems to start on the left, the preparation time for this spinner is pretty short already and for a newbie it might be hard to catch all bananas in time.
   
   k for the rest.

[Platter]

1. Not the biggest fan of this Platter due to the constant 1/2 mapping but that's your style and I don't plan on destroying it. For future maps maybe try to make more use of longer sliders and such. I also have a few issues with some hypers in this but more to this in my mod below.
   
   its fine, its an old map, a very old map that i cant even map like this anymore or nor how do i remap this, simply bcs im not my old self anymore.
   
2. 00:07:290 (5,6,7,8,1) - This whole pattern is just awkwark. Here is an example how to improve this a lot in terms of readability:
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   k
   
   
3. 00:20:531 (7,8) - , 00:27:358 (2,3) - , 00:33:979 (2,3) - , 00:35:014 (1,2) - , 00:35:841 (1,2) - , 00:36:669 (1,2) - , 00:40:807 (1,2) - , 00:41:635 (1,2) - , 00:42:462 (1,2) - , 00:43:290 (1,2) - , 00:44:738 (4,5) - , 00:45:979 (3,4) - , 00:47:841 (2,3) - , 00:48:669 (2,3) - , 00:55:290 (2,3) - , 01:01:083 (1,2) - , 01:01:911 (2,3) - , 01:03:772 (1,2) - , 01:09:979 (5,6) - Yeah well that's the main problem in here. Did you follow this discussion recently? t/385492. Please, make sure these are no Screen Border Hyperdashes, all of them. It destroys the actual gameplay of your Platter because my catcher is stopped all the time in a very forcible matter. They will very likely lead to a disqualify if you don't fix them because it's really, really annoying to play like this.
   
   NO, i didnt.. and thx, i jst read that.
   i simply make them not edgy dash for some part, and thx to this, it took me quite some time to repattern and decide to remap some section.
   especially this section 00:34:186 - see if you are fine with this. it seems much aggressive than the chorus itself "BUT" even i can FC it...
   as im jst around 400PP.(if you want, you can spectate me)
   
4. 00:21:565 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - , 00:28:186 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - What blatantly annoys me in these section is the constant 1/2 mapping you did in here. The vocals and such give much more than that, this does not emphasize the music very well. Have a timeline suggestion:
   
   SPOILER

   
   (For reference: The timeline starts at 00:28:186 - and ends at 00:33:979 - .)
   I also want to mention that decreasing the density in here is beneficial since the combo gap between platter and rain is very low right now.
   
   k
   
   
5. 00:32:738 (1) - Let this slider end at 00:33:772 - or 00:33:979 - , but not on a 1/4 tick please.
6. 01:27:979 (9,10,11) - Make sure this is not on the screen wall, and for better flow make sure 01:27:565 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - have opposite directions.
   
   k k k

[Rain]

uhhh... Rain... i jst apply it







and so.. for previous JBH's mod and Deif mod... i update the map then
i ask QAT again bout it what BEST to deal with the solution while every modder here seems to be conflicts to each other.
and im the one to blame..., i put the final update. Yuii bubble it... and seems like NOBODY's check it... so i dont remember things like 4-5months ago...
sry Sey. no reply there.

LordRaika wrote:

and so.. for previous JBH's mod and Deif mod... i update the map then
i ask QAT again bout it what BEST to deal with the solution while every modder here seems to be conflicts to each other.
and im the one to blame..., i put the final update. Yuii bubble it... and seems like NOBODY's check it... so i dont remember things like 4-5months ago...
sry Sey. no reply there.