a loli wrote:

shouldn't the kiai times start at 02:14:710 and 04:02:296 instead? The sections just before these timestamps are weak sections of the song used to emphasise the upcoming chorus, and I believe you should only be using kiai time on only one section (the strong section), not both. That's... where they're already starting ?_?

I also think the preview point should be 02:14:193, but that doesn't bother me. I didn't recognise the song because you had it previewed at such a weird part, though. Changed it, thanks.


also a lot of subjective modding coming:

00:07:533 (3) - I see that you ended the slider on another flute beat, but the spacing to the next slider is awkward since the spacing is 1/2. Personally I'd make the slider repeat to remove that awkward pause, as well as making the spacing similar I like the idea of making the slider repeat (once). Changed.

00:09:983 (1) - any reason why you chose not to sustain the flute to 1/4 like the others? The timing section, mostly, which make this unplayable if it had another circle

00:10:508 (3) - slider end should be 1/4 shorter huh no? why would it o_o

00:13:814 (2) - remove this, completely unnecessary Wouldn't be if I could get that damn sliderend snapped

00:15:624 (5) - ^ Not going to debate on this for the 32738124961726487961946981th time. It's staying.

00:22:534 (3) - either move this closer to the slider, or move the upcoming sliders a bit further. This 1/4 spacing is way too similar to the 1/2 spacing of the upcoming sliders. Changed spacings

00:31:542 (2) - would play a lot better and flow better if it were stacked onto the next slider imo would also emphasize the wrong sound, which is a big no-go

00:31:930 (4) - ^ ^

00:42:894 (12) - way too much spacing for a 1/4 This is a lot easier to play than it looks, and achieves perfectly the go-and-stop motion I want for those two and 00:43:146 (13) - .

00:51:415 (1,2,3,4) - why is this spaced much more than 00:55:563 (1,2,3,4) Spaced them equally

01:03:839 (9) - NC? Nothing actually warrants a new combo here

01:06:046 (9) - NC should start here Didn't do exactly this but I reworked the pattern to be more accurate to the vocals.

01:06:434 (1) - change this to 1/2 slider, random 1/1s are very awkward to play if you do it in the middle of a section The spacing allows this to be readable, and I want my stop on that short "yo" note.

01:18:330 (4) - you could do something with this, maybe a 1/8 or 1/6 repeat slider huh no that would play like shit

01:18:460 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - this stream doesn't really fit the music, I'd do kick sliders instead to emphasise the heavy beats It fits the map and provides awesome build up to the next section

01:24:538 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - this plays to nothing, and you missed a very good opportunity to put some nice jumps to emphasise the beats! can you not hear the big stringed instrument?

01:28:482 (3) - remove this, plays to nothing It emphasizes the snare hit and introduces a short break in the movement that helps the square after it to be more sudden, as are the drums in that section

01:42:124 (1,2,3,4,5) - I assume you were following the vocals on the previous part before, so why the sudden change? Because the drums are the main hits at this point, and the vocals are fairly uninteresting, while the durms provide, again, very good build up for the next section.

01:44:193 (4) - as said before, the 1/4 spacing is very similar to the upcoming 1/2 spacing That's made on purpose, it emphasizes the beginning of each repeat of this pattern

01:44:710 (7,10) - ^, you could also add NC to these repeating patterns nope, see reasoning above

01:59:969 (4,5,6,7,1) - why is this a stream? If you're going to add a stream on sustained notes, then the stream should be connected to the slider before it oh, very good catch, thank you, I reworked this part

02:00:357 (2) - ctrl + g for better flow, back and forth patterns with sliders are terrible to play and plus this is the only section where you did it like this for some reason

02:00:745 (4) - ^

02:01:132 (6) - ^

02:01:520 (8) - ^ and also understates the huge spacing spike from 02:01:779 (1) onward
All 4 above: hell no. The whole point of the pattern is this sharp contrast between the jump and the slider

02:04:236 (4) - the vocal actually starts on the blue tick Which is unintuitive and unplayable as fuck, that's why I made it start on the red tick

02:05:270 (4) - ^ ^

02:07:985 (2) - if you're emphasising vocals, the NC should start here instead No. The slider I NC'd starts a new word and a repeated rhythm in the song

02:09:408 (4) - the vocal actually starts on the blue tick see above

02:11:219 (4,5) - these beats should be moved on the blue tick to the right. Also take this chance to do something creative with it see above

02:12:253 (4,5,6) - this sounds really weird? could be same as ^ see above

02:27:512 - add 1/2 circle there is a beat there

02:28:546 - ^

02:29:581 - ^

02:30:615 - ^
To all 4 above: read my answer to a previous mod regarding the structure of the map

02:53:632 (5) - remove this, it looks like you're strictly following vocals so this is completely unnecessary It would introduce a much unwanted hole in the rhythm

03:06:046 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - like 01:18:460 (5,6,7,8,9,10) if you're going to put streams on sustained beats, then start the stream on the sustained beat. this goes with the drums

03:09:408 (1,2,3) - very very very very very hard to read patterns like this, please change it or add some sort of indication emphasising the 1/1 going to 1/2.

03:11:477 (1,2,3) - ^

03:13:546 (1,2,3) - ^

03:32:684 (2,3,4,5) - ^
No. The whole point of this part is that it's somewhat hard to read. Hell, I have yet to see someone fail to read this on first try.

04:14:710 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what I said about the previous kiai, you're missing some 1/2 beats between some of the quin streams read answer above

04:20:917 (1) - looks like you wanted to avoid mapping the rest of that section tbh. Shorten this spinner so that you can map the beats that come after it, or better yet just use a slider for 04:20:788 (4) and map 04:21:693 Yeah I wanted to avoid the awkward stream -> stream transition but ok.

04:26:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - streams sound very offputting if you silent-hitsound every second note. Please don't I do not have any silent hitsounds.

04:26:606 (7) - I think this should be a slider to emphasise the sustaining vocal, because the instrument is still playing. 04:27:124 (8) is very appropriate though yay more gimmick

04:27:641 (1) - I think you should map the two 1/2s that come before it, to give emphasis to the upcoming kiai I want a hard reset with 04:27:641 (1) - . That was the idea behind the circles, but I guess sliders work too.

04:27:641 (1) - this would sound better with a 1/2 slider instead, or at least another 1/2 note coming after it ^

04:39:926 (6,6,6,6) - wtf now you start mapping that 1/2 lol readtheansweraboveaboutstructureffs

04:46:522 (1) - I'd map the vocals as sliders, spinners should only be used for very long sustained notes okay

freebird42 wrote:

Dont give kudosu if you rejected more than half of mod

00:44:984 (1) - i'm not sure, but this sounds a litle bit off time, maybe i'm deaf though It technically is, but at this point the drums are way too unstable to even be timed perfectly. This is the best compromise!
00:47:316 (3) - maybe clap is better instead of finish? also maube folowing note NC? oooooh I like the clap here thanks! Also, no new combo on blue ticks ever unless you're mapping a superlowBPM song (like Firesong)
00:49:734 (6,7) - sounds a bit too late, maybe its 1/12 left on the time scale? not sure though, also how about adding finish to 7 to emphasize this note? They are too late but again, it's not possible to perfectly time this section. What I did is a compromise between "perfect" timing and playability. Also, (6) has the finish.
if you agreed with hitsounding of previous notes then maybe its better to move finish from end of 00:50:649 (3) - to the folowing note, if you disagreed - ignore this I did move the finish
00:51:798 (4) - maybe remove finish hitsound and put it on the beginning of folowing slider? you can also add finish to 00:51:670 (3) - but its optionally hmm okay, that makes sense
00:51:926 (1,2,3) - is this spacing okey? actually nwm, you use spacing like this a lot, so guess its ok yeah it's fine, it emphasizes 00:52:317 (3) - without emphasizing 00:52:186 (2) -
00:53:882 (3) - better put finish on the previous note no I'm following the finishes in the song and this one's here
00:56:856 (1) - how about moving finish from end to beginning and also adding finish to the beginning of the folowing slider, i think it goes well enough with the flute moved finish but didn't add another one because there's simply no cymbals at that point
00:57:761 (6) - maybe this slider ends 1/12 left on time scale? no that would be unplayable
00:58:408 (4) - add finish no cymbals
00:58:925 (3) - maybe finish in the beginning? reworked this part
00:58:537 (1,2,3) - maybe 1- finish in the end, 2 - finish, 3 - finish in the beginning and in the end? no cymbals
01:00:994 (4) - maybe add finish to this note and to the beginning of folowing slider ^
01:03:839 (9) - new combo? sorry, i didnt read previous post
02:14:193 (1) - maybe + clap? That doesn't fit at all, there's no snare here
02:39:020 (3,4) - meybe + finish at the beginning to emphasize flute? already emphasized with whistles
02:43:676 (1) - add finish to the beginning no cymbals
02:44:451 (1,2) - flute sound here, so maybe add finish to the beginning of sliders? flute is emphasized via whistles, finishes only go with cymbal crashes in the song
02:45:593 (1,2) - maybe these notes also needs to be moved left 1/12, also how about adding finish to 2? that would be unplayable D:
02:46:908 (3) - add finish to the end
02:47:555 (3) - add finish
02:49:107 (2) - finish to the beginning
all three: again, no cymbals
03:49:494 (10) - new combo? huh that doesn't really make sense, the stream finishes the previous patterns
04:01:779 (1) - maybe add clap? again, there's a reason why this has no hitsounds =P
04:18:848 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - maybe change all these jumps to ora ora ora star form pattern, so it would be more fun to aim? no, the whole idea of these patterns is to be increasing back and forths
04:23:891 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same = =
04:56:334 (4) - i personally think that this slider is reversal and folowing is not, but i can be wrong ??? o.O

also aimod thinks this 04:20:917 (1) - spinner is too short, but guess its fine, no one will SS this map anyway I'll have to see with BNs/QATs for this, auto does get 1000 bonus for me o.O

i cant say anything about flow, i never played 7* maps (relax doesnt count), when i tryed to aim this i got nearly ~150 misses, but still think that note placement is good

i tried to change some hitsounds in order to make map more energetic and shared my thoughts above, but you can ignore all of this if you want, because your map sounds well enough

also i agree with previous post about kiais

if noone of my sugestions is helpful im sorry for wasting your time

thanks third time for helping with timing

Faust wrote:

Filesize is too big. What an absolute kill-joy.

tyom wrote:

SPOILER

02:21:046 IMO I think the use of squares would be much better here, but make them go square-diamond-square-diamond pattern
02:31:262 Squares could be used here again
Some of your combos go past 10, try aiming for 6-9 on combo.
03:29:193 Again with the back-forth jumps, where i'd see a great use of squares. The squares would work here especially because 03:31:262 - 03:33:331 uses squares, would make that entire section consistent.
These same square and pattern related things occur later in the song but I think you get the idea from what i've currently addressed.

I really like squares and polygons and sliders, I like the polygon and star jumps but the backwards and forwards jumps make the map at some parts look ugly, just at those parts though. The rest of the map is great. This is just my opinion.

Pokoulie wrote:

amazing map.

monstrata wrote:

Fixed up some snapping issues. Lets get this rebubbled!

Natsu wrote:

Lets try again!

Aiceo wrote:

I'm sorry to be rude but, what the actual fuck is this?

Raiden wrote:

Aiceo wrote:

I'm sorry to be rude but, what the actual fuck is this?

a map

no problem mate, anytime

such joke dogeden wowowowowwo

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  rhythm selection

1. alright this section here 00:47:841 - seems to switch downbeats around by 1 1/2 every few measures.
   00:48:734 (1) - here you seem to emphasize it well, (here it switches 1 1/2 back) but the next few are wrong:
   00:49:755 (6) - this note is much stronger yet unemphasized
   00:50:649 (3) - this slider here.. it ends on the downbeat and is unclickable, along with having no hitsounds, then there's a circle right after it that stole the actual downbeats finisher hitsound 00:50:904 (4) -
   next two at 00:51:926 - and 00:52:839 - are fine, but lack of emphasis repeats on 00:53:882 (3) - yet again.
   00:58:020 (1) - ^
   01:01:124 (5) - ^, but this one also lacks a finish hitsound and 01:01:253 (6) - for some reason has one.
   00:56:856 (1) - this sliderhead isnt the strong sound here, the end of it is which is, again, unclickable and unhitsounded.
   00:58:925 (3) - ^
   01:20:917 - same applies to this section
   02:43:676 - first problem i noticed in the 3rd section was here, missing a finish hitsound, then the next downbeat here 02:44:451 (1) - is unclickable etc.
   also, for these sections, change the NCs to fit the "new" downbeats because right now they're literally random from what i see. for example why is this 00:50:011 - nc'd? move it to 00:49:755 (6) - and so on.
   
2. next up we have this section 01:04:625 - it seems to heavily focus on vocals and i guess that's okay, but it has this little outro/intro into the next section that would feel better with 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - these being converted to 2 circles because the guitar riff suggests 3 clicks (3 strong sounds with the last one extended = 1/2 or 3/4 slider). you do it here successfully 01:43:676 - . 02:02:296 - in this section you randomly decide to focus on the vocals after mapping the guitar riffs which obviously stand out the most here 2 times, i do NOT understand why. highly suggest making it consistent and actually follow the instrument that is most audible/dominating.
   03:06:434 (1) - ^
   03:49:882 (1) - ^
   
3. 02:27:124 - these sections.. first of all this 02:27:124 (1,2,3,4,5) - obviously isn't 1/4, the only burst in this first section that is 1/4 is this one 02:29:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - , and the one that obviously exposes that the rest are 1/3 is this one 02:30:227 (1) - . you can clearly hear 3 sounds every beat 2 times by the guitar from this one.
   the other object you use in this section is the slider, which is a reverse slider 02:27:641 (6) - . first of all, it does not have any sound at all on any of the reverse arrows. secondly, both sounds are of equal strength which suggests you to use something that would require sufficient force for each.. yes, those are either 2 circles or 2 1/2 sliders, but 1/2 sliders wont fit here as there are no other sounds there and the primary target (the bass drum) isn't an extended sound, that's why circles fit the best.
   04:15:227 (6,7) - here it's done right, but the previous burst is supposed to be 1/3 (this one 04:14:710 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) and it only repeats once here, the following beat is 1/2 meaning that it needs a note which is clearly audible and strong here 04:15:098 - and so on.
   04:39:796 (5,6,7) - here it's done perfectly (!), except for the fact that this burst isn't 1/3 04:39:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - but luckily that's easy to fix
   
4. 02:51:111 - this triple is very audible, even a 1/4 slider covering it would be good, or just make it a full triple since the stronger sound in this 2 note guitar riff is the second one, meaning it would support the second extended note (02:51:176 (4) - ) well.
   
5. 03:16:779 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is definitely 1/3
   03:17:296 (9,10,11,12) - seems like 1/2s but meh keep them as 1/4 sliders since flute sounds are kinda extended
   03:17:813 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1/3
   03:18:071 (5) - the rest from here looks like http://puu.sh/m5Xe8/084319064c.jpg
   03:25:055 (1) - also 1/3, most easy to tell from the first 4 notes here 03:25:055 (1,2,3,4,5) - (they're actually 5 now because its 1/4 not 1/3)
   also asked mr. pishifat to check it http://puu.sh/m5XrG/b14eb2a0ab.png
   
6. 03:32:038 (4) - shouldn't be a slider, make 2 circles because 2 strong sounds instead.
   
7. 04:46:522 (1,2,3) - 04:47:815 (7,8) - you cant just follow vocals like that when theres nothing in the background, if youre not removing them at least make the hitsounds really low volume and fit them or something because right now it feels REALLY awkward
   
8. 05:01:610 (1,2) -why is this not a triple, what makes this bass drum hit 05:01:610 (1) - weaker than the one at 05:01:688 - ???

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  timing stuff

1. 04:22:468 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this isn't even close to being on time. also it has 6 notes not 7
2. 04:48:565 (1) - insufficient timing, goes off when the drummer takes a pause right here 04:49:211 (11) - , meaning everything else after that is off and feels weird. the whole section is really varied since the drummer basically goes rambo mode, i'd suggest using a spinner instead

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  stuff that is weird

1. to begin this, ill mention that this statement http://puu.sh/m5YPf/95cfcd10b0.png infuriates me. ill try to explain why i feel like it right here, now.
   00:47:316 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - what the hell is this. i only hear notes on 00:47:316 (3,4,5) - and 00:47:579 (7,9) - but not the rest.
   01:01:641 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - only notes are here 01:01:641 (1,3,5) -
   01:18:460 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - only 5 notes here, nothing is here 01:18:783 (10) - , although this one isn't as brutal as the other ones and in my opinion supports the song, i'd never do it myself though
   03:49:494 (10) - ^
   01:24:538 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - ... what 01:24:538 (4,5,6,8,10,1) - these are the only sounds that exist
   01:59:710 (9) - this one only has the 1/2s in it, no 1/4s at all. sounds disgusting with those hitsounds covering nothingness
   02:49:431 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - this only has 3 notes in that interval on the song while 8 are mapped 02:49:495 (4,6,1) -
   03:06:046 (5) - only 1/2s in this one again
   04:26:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this reminds me of mythologias end, mapping streams to vocals, hell yeah, thats's intuitive to play
   most of these overmaps DO NOT emphasize anything and are just plain annoying to tap, they don't follow anything in the song, they don't help anything in the song to be supported, they're just there.
   if your excuse is that you map the long extended guitar/flute notes as streams, then please, go ahead and ruin the song completely by overmapping these guitar notes, for instance, 01:26:607 (2) - 01:43:288 (6) - 03:47:296 (5) - too! overmapping also needs consistency.
   
2. diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why? it sounds extremely cringey for a song like this. also capitalize every letter or only the first word and nouns, it's random as of now.

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  stuff that looks weird

1. alright well i think majority of mappers would agree with me that these sliders look extremely UNAPPEALING.
   00:01:782 (3) -
   00:03:839 (2) - alright every slider in the intro that is longer than like 1/1 looks ugly.
   00:23:688 (6) - okay this one is an exception, it looks good
   
2. after using grey nodes or simply straight sliders for most of the song after the intro, here you decide red nodes would be a good idea 01:18:848 (1) - . these two 01:19:107 (2) - 01:19:624 (4) - look fine, but these two 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - just scream "hello 2008" to me. and no, i mean it in the bad way.
   
3. 03:10:055 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - do these 1/3 burst shapes follow anything because they look awful without any reason right now
   
4. 03:25:055 (1) - can you atleast use slider to stream conversion tool when you change these, because right now it looks awful because of the fact it is obviously manually hand-placed with just DS on, which makes it uncircular/uneven everywhere.

Mazzerin wrote:

ok i don't know where to begin maybe you should have begun by posting this before it was qualified
, lets start with hitsounds/green lines for example okay first of all, unless they are kiai times, green lines do not need to be snapped. I pretty much ignored all this but I removed the useless/duplicate lines.

01:04:292 (16) - this really shouldn't have the same hitsound as the rest of the stream, there's no snare drum here, only the guitar 1/4 sound changed

• 
  rhythm selection

1. alright this section here 00:47:841 - seems to switch downbeats around by 1 1/2 every few measures.
   00:48:734 (1) - here you seem to emphasize it well, (here it switches 1 1/2 back) but the next few are wrong:
   00:49:755 (6) - this note is much stronger yet unemphasized I'm focusing on the big stringed instrument here. Emphasizing the (rather faint) cymbalish sound would be confusing. I used a circle to give it proper emphasis (as opposed to a sliderend) but I do not believe it requires to be spaced away.
   00:50:649 (3) - this slider here.. it ends on the downbeat and is unclickable, along with having no hitsounds, then there's a circle right after it that stole the actual downbeats finisher hitsound 00:50:904 (4) - Ah good catch, I didn't notice. Not sure about the pattern now tough.
   next two at 00:51:926 - and 00:52:839 - are fine, but lack of emphasis repeats on 00:53:882 (3) - yet again.
   00:58:020 (1) - ^
   See my reasoning above.
   01:01:124 (5) - ^, but this one also lacks a finish hitsound and 01:01:253 (6) - for some reason has one. oups, added
   00:56:856 (1) - this sliderhead isnt the strong sound here, the end of it is which is, again, unclickable and unhitsounded. I will disagree with this one. I'm not following the drums here. Did you even try to understand that or are you just assuming everything is based on the drums (which I never do) ?
   00:58:925 (3) - ^ ^
   01:20:917 - same applies to this section
   02:43:676 - first problem i noticed in the 3rd section was here, missing a finish hitsound, then the next downbeat here 02:44:451 (1) - is unclickable etc.
   also, for these sections, change the NCs to fit the "new" downbeats because right now they're literally random from what i see. for example why is this 00:50:011 - nc'd? move it to 00:49:755 (6) - and so on. fixed as best I could
   
2. next up we have this section 01:04:625 - it seems to heavily focus on vocals and i guess that's okay I map a lot to the most prominent instrument - often vocals
   but it has this little outro/intro into the next section that would feel better with 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - these being converted to 2 circles because the guitar riff suggests 3 clicks (3 strong sounds with the last one extended = 1/2 or 3/4 slider). you do it here successfully 01:43:676 - . 02:02:296 - in this section you randomly decide to focus on the vocals after mapping the guitar riffs which obviously stand out the most here 2 times, i do NOT understand why. highly suggest making it consistent and actually follow the instrument that is most audible/dominating. that is a really good idea, im doing that, thank you
   03:06:434 (1) - ^ changed too
   03:49:882 (1) - ^ I won't change this one because I'm (again) following the vocals here with the sliders, and replacing the first slider with two circles feels anticlimatic and weird to me. I'd rather keep what I have right now.
   
   
3. 02:27:124 - these sections.. first of all this 02:27:124 (1,2,3,4,5) - obviously isn't 1/4, the only burst in this first section that is 1/4 is this one 02:29:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - , and the one that obviously exposes that the rest are 1/3 is this one 02:30:227 (1) - . you can clearly hear 3 sounds every beat 2 times by the guitar from this one.
   the other object you use in this section is the slider, which is a reverse slider 02:27:641 (6) - . first of all, it does not have any sound at all on any of the reverse arrows. secondly, both sounds are of equal strength which suggests you to use something that would require sufficient force for each.. yes, those are either 2 circles or 2 1/2 sliders, but 1/2 sliders wont fit here as there are no other sounds there and the primary target (the bass drum) isn't an extended sound, that's why circles fit the best.
   04:15:227 (6,7) - here it's done right, but the previous burst is supposed to be 1/3 (this one 04:14:710 (1,2,3,4,5) - ) and it only repeats once here, the following beat is 1/2 meaning that it needs a note which is clearly audible and strong here 04:15:098 - and so on.
   04:39:796 (5,6,7) - here it's done perfectly (!), except for the fact that this burst isn't 1/3 04:39:538 (1,2,3,4,5) - but luckily that's easy to fix
   Only fixed the wrong snapping. You didn't understand the structure behind these patterns and why the slider slowly turns into circles, and that I am not willing to change.
   
4. 02:51:111 - this triple is very audible, even a 1/4 slider covering it would be good, or just make it a full triple since the stronger sound in this 2 note guitar riff is the second one, meaning it would support the second extended note (02:51:176 (4) - ) well. I heard it but decided to ignore it to again focus on the lead instrument and keep the repeating pattern.
   
5. 03:16:779 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is definitely 1/3
   03:17:296 (9,10,11,12) - seems like 1/2s but meh keep them as 1/4 sliders since flute sounds are kinda extended
   changed
   03:17:813 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1/3
   03:18:071 (5) - the rest from here looks like http://puu.sh/m5Xe8/084319064c.jpg
   made everything 1/3 with sliders for clarity
   03:25:055 (1) - also 1/3, most easy to tell from the first 4 notes here 03:25:055 (1,2,3,4,5) - (they're actually 5 now because its 1/4 not 1/3)
   also asked mr. pishifat to check it http://puu.sh/m5XrG/b14eb2a0ab.png
   this part is actually like really asshole rhythm
   
6. 03:32:038 (4) - shouldn't be a slider, make 2 circles because 2 strong sounds instead. I don't hear it. The way I see it, my rhythm is correct. I don't hear a strong sound at 03:32:167 -
   
7. 04:46:522 (1,2,3) - 04:47:815 (7,8) - you cant just follow vocals like that when theres nothing in the background, if youre not removing them at least make the hitsounds really low volume and fit them or something because right now it feels REALLY awkward ye I thought it was awkward but couldn't come up with a better alternative, I replaced it with a spinner, hopefully that works
   
8. 05:01:610 (1,2) -why is this not a triple, what makes this bass drum hit 05:01:610 (1) - weaker than the one at 05:01:688 - ??? Their volume ?...

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  timing stuff

1. 04:22:468 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this isn't even close to being on time. also it has 6 notes not 7 fixed
2. 04:48:565 (1) - insufficient timing, goes off when the drummer takes a pause right here 04:49:211 (11) - , meaning everything else after that is off and feels weird. the whole section is really varied since the drummer basically goes rambo mode, i'd suggest using a spinner instead This isn't actually fixable. What Charles did is the best approximation that remains playable. I don't want to change the end for a spinner because I like the rambo end, so I'll keep that.

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  stuff that is weird

1. to begin this, ill mention that this statement http://puu.sh/m5YPf/95cfcd10b0.png infuriates me. ill try to explain why i feel like it right here, now. I'll just ignore this entire section, sorry. I chose the 1/4 to complete and emphasize specific things in the vocals and the drums. While they are technically overmapped I suppose, they go well with the song and the map and actually add to it. I don't usually do this, but in this case, I firmly believe they are good additions.
   
2. diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why? it sounds extremely cringey for a song like this. also capitalize every letter or only the first word and nouns, it's random as of now. It is relevant, fun, and I'm keeping it.

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  stuff that looks weird

1. after using grey nodes or simply straight sliders for most of the song after the intro, here you decide red nodes would be a good idea 01:18:848 (1) - . these two 01:19:107 (2) - 01:19:624 (4) - look fine, but these two 01:18:848 (1) - 01:19:365 (3) - just scream "hello 2008" to me. and no, i mean it in the bad way. removed the red nodes
   
2. 03:10:055 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - do these 1/3 burst shapes follow anything because they look awful without any reason right now yeah they made more sense when i mapped them as 1/4 and wanted to keep the same shape, but I guess I'll change
   
3. 03:25:055 (1) - can you atleast use slider to stream conversion tool when you change these, because right now it looks awful because of the fact it is obviously manually hand-placed with just DS on, which makes it uncircular/uneven everywhere. changed

Mazzerin wrote:

diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why?

Mazzerin wrote:

[*]diff name. is it relevant? if it is, why? it sounds extremely cringey for a song like this. also capitalize every letter or only the first word and nouns, it's random as of now.

MLA Style wrote:

Capitalizing Titles

Capitalize the first letter of the major words of titles. Minor words, such as articles, prepositions, and coordinating conjunctions, are not capitalized unless they are the first word of a title or subtitle.

“Why Boys Don’t Play with Dolls” (a short essay)

In the Heat of the Night (a film)

Shiro wrote:

Mazzerin wrote:

00:56:856 (1) - this sliderhead isnt the strong sound here, the end of it is which is, again, unclickable and unhitsounded. I will disagree with this one. I'm not following the drums here. Did you even try to understand that or are you just assuming everything is based on the drums (which I never do) ?

_index wrote:

make it happen

a loli wrote:

provided it looks like a mess, it actually plays very well

Bearizm wrote:

d

DanielDimitrov wrote:

Almost hard attack when i saw not submitted D:

Pereira006 wrote:

[Uncompressed Fury of a Raging Demon God]

Hitsound:

1. 01:18:201 (3) - Dunno why you didn't add clap because the beat is similiar in 01:17:943 huh I forgot to readd the hitsound after I reworked the pattern >.<
2. 01:19:365 (4) - missing add clap, the beat is there but as you style you did add clap in 01:19:882 (1), that I can hear the beat in 01:19:365 is same sound as in 01:19:365 ;w; again
3. 02:51:046 (3) - Where whistle with Normal sampleset and Soft additions the sound like you did in 02:50:787 and more is there, look like you missing add here again

Gameplay:

1. 01:05:659 (7) - I feel this placement is out space with 01:05:529 (6) and 01:05:012 (3) because the part 01:05:529 (6,7) - look like isn't same placement and symentric as with 01:05:012 (3,4), I feel this 01:05:529 (6,7) could be more symentric and placements, like this http://puu.sh/mcZ6N/dd420f4ae0.jpg reworked the pattern
2. 03:02:296 (1,2,3) - could you fix spacing ? I mean the placement look different the 03:02:555 (2) - is too far outt with 03:02:296 (1) and too near much with 03:02:813 (3) , this could be fix placement because you do many pattern placement like 02:56:995 (4,6,8) and many more because I don't see this part have inconsistency placement but in 03:02:296 (1,2,3) is inconsistency placement. fixed

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Pereira006 wrote:

Bubble #2

CodeS wrote:

Edit: The new diffname is so bad compared to the old one, and less related to the lyrics than before. lmao

zshadowjon wrote:

idk but I think its because the diff name offended people..? idk man its a weird change

Maakkeli wrote:

in this day and age you have to watch out for people getting offended by random shit over the internet because that's just how it goes

a loli wrote:

wtf happened?

were most 1/4s removed or something?


02:29:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - 02:31:262 (1,2,3,4,5) -

these are awkward to play, every other segment in the kiai section are 1/3 except these

Mazzerin wrote:

what's your point?

a loli wrote:

these are awkward to play, every other segment in the kiai section are 1/3 except these

a loli wrote:

wtf happened?

were most 1/4s removed or something?


02:29:193 (1,2,3,4,5) - 02:31:262 (1,2,3,4,5) -

these are awkward to play, every other segment in the kiai section are 1/3 except these

a loli wrote:

Mazzerin wrote:

what's your point?

a loli wrote:

these are awkward to play, every other segment in the kiai section are 1/3 except these

John Cena wrote:

I seriously approve of this! Good song and great map to compliment it!

_index wrote:

honestly im not happy with changes at all, they're just plain stupid.
90% of those parts that got remapped in last few updates are not doing well at all.
what are those fours 1/3 ??????? why ?????????? and a random 5note 1/4 between them?

aside from a HUGE 1/4 stream (that was sometimes 1/3) the map was really polished and great, i am saying it because i played it a lot and didn't complain, which is rare for me. Now half of the map is just a stupid mess that is required to make it "easier" and doesnt even stand close to an old one.

im sad
why you did this

_index wrote:

honestly im not happy with changes at all, they're just plain stupid.
90% of those parts that got remapped in last few updates are not doing well at all.
what are those fours 1/3 ??????? why ?????????? and a random 5note 1/4 between them?

aside from a HUGE 1/4 stream (that was sometimes 1/3) the map was really polished and great, i am saying it because i played it a lot and didn't complain, which is rare for me. Now half of the map is just a stupid mess that is required to make it "easier" and doesnt even stand close to an old one.

im sad
why you did this

a loli wrote:

how about they're 1/4 to sustain the vocal and for playability issues? Most of the beats placed follow the vocals too, and the 1/3 is very hard to distinguish as well as it kills the intensity of the song

also,

01:44:451 (6,7) -
01:44:969 (9,10) - i still think these are super weird to hit; the distance looks like 1/2s but they are actually 1/4s I've considered reducing the distance, but it would fuck with the pattern, I guess I'd need to rework it

02:28:417 (4,5) - please consider mapping the red tick between these notes in each segment, the pausing feels strange huh this is part of the structure but I can find something else

02:39:150 (4) - there should be another beat after this This one I have to disagree with. I'm focusing on the flute primarily and the sudden stop provided by the 1/4 sliders goes very well with it. Adding a circle (for the drum) would ruin the effect.

03:25:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - feels like shit at 1/3 also. Can't this be mapped as 1/4 and passed as mapping the sustained flute in the bg? Honestly, if it's possible, then I will very happily have this DQ'd a third time to put the 1/4 back in. It was a lot more intuitive and fun than the 1/3. I'll see with QATs if it's possible.

Dreamtwolf wrote:

04:51:538 (1) to 04:54:471 (32) - Editor say that numbers should go up from 15-18, the number reached 32 so add a new combo here 04:52:119 (10)? I don't know though but i guess you should add a new combo somewhere specific.