12:59 -Kamikaze-: yo
12:59 MEGAtive: yo
12:59 -Kamikaze-: first off, you have garbled unicode artist
12:59 -Kamikaze-: æš´èµ°P
12:59 -Kamikaze-: a
12:59 MEGAtive: Whoa
13:00 MEGAtive: Didn't see that
13:00 -Kamikaze-: Kiai's end isn't snapped! 03:00:447
13:00 MEGAtive: I just droppped it from the album right away
13:00 -Kamikaze-: aimod shouts about timing sections being <5% volume but I guess that hitsounds are wip
13:00 MEGAtive: Yep
13:01 MEGAtive: Still figuring out the hitsounds
13:01 -Kamikaze-: yeah np
13:02 -Kamikaze-: ok so, I'll point out little things I've noticed and give you general idea of what I find wrong along the way because I have some complaints about the structure
13:02 -Kamikaze-: but let's start from the beggining
13:02 -Kamikaze-: 00:00:165 - I see no reason for it to be a double
13:02 MEGAtive: Ok
13:02 MEGAtive: I thought it's for the choir-esque sound and the piano
13:03 -Kamikaze-: yes but you don't accent choir later
13:03 -Kamikaze-: so you should be consistent about it
13:03 MEGAtive: Hmm, you're right
13:03 MEGAtive: Deleting that, then
13:03 -Kamikaze-: not gonna attempt at checking pitch because I suck at that lol
13:04 -Kamikaze-: oh and you might want to raise hp on that
13:04 MEGAtive: Lol
13:04 -Kamikaze-: I passed it without trying hard
13:04 -Kamikaze-: with like 632k
13:04 MEGAtive: Raise the HP
13:04 MEGAtive: Okay
13:04 MEGAtive: 8.5 or 9?
13:05 -Kamikaze-: try 9
13:05 MEGAtive: Ok
13:05 -Kamikaze-: if pepole complain about it too much go down to 8,5
13:05 MEGAtive: Hmm, got it
13:06 -Kamikaze-: 00:09:717 (9717|0) - move to 6 maybe?
13:06 -Kamikaze-: smoother transition by a little
13:06 MEGAtive: I think |1| is pretty empty so I put the note there
13:06 -Kamikaze-: okay, so move 00:09:717 (9717|2,9866|3) - 1 right
13:07 MEGAtive: Ok
13:07 -Kamikaze-: 00:09:418 (9418|1,9717|2,9717|0) - this can be surprising with sudden change of snaps later
13:08 -Kamikaze-: 00:23:448 (23448|4,23597|4,23747|0,23747|3,23896|3,23896|0) - I get the idea, but it felt kinda weird to me on sightread
13:08 -Kamikaze-: idk
13:09 -Kamikaze-: maybe reverse direction of 00:23:299 (23299|3,23448|2,23597|1) - and start it from col 1?
13:09 MEGAtive: Ok
13:09 MEGAtive: Felt better
13:10 -Kamikaze-: 00:24:269 - missed 1/4, not sure if intentional
13:10 MEGAtive: Whoa, missed that sound
13:11 -Kamikaze-: 00:25:090 (25090|4,25090|3) - not sure why there is a double here
13:11 -Kamikaze-: feels off because there's no drum here
13:12 MEGAtive: I think there's a drum playing there
13:12 -Kamikaze-: can't hear it/really weaker then the one before
13:12 MEGAtive: Well, it's
13:12 MEGAtive: It's weaker
13:13 MEGAtive: Make it single, then?
13:13 -Kamikaze-: ok I can hear it, but *imo* it should be single just because it's a weaker sound
13:13 -Kamikaze-: more intuitive
13:13 MEGAtive: Ok then
13:13 -Kamikaze-: same here 00:25:687 (25687|1,25687|4) -
13:13 -Kamikaze-: and in all following instances
13:14 -Kamikaze-: not gonna list the all
13:14 -Kamikaze-: them*
13:14 MEGAtive: Okay
13:15 -Kamikaze-: 00:28:523 (28523|3,28622|2,28722|1,28821|0) - It's really anti-climatic to have that drum as a stair tbh, make it something like 3425
13:16 MEGAtive: Hmm, applied
13:16 -Kamikaze-: 00:31:433 - missed note
13:16 -Kamikaze-: and this should be double 00:31:508 -
13:17 -Kamikaze-: 00:29:045 - missed again
13:17 -Kamikaze-: not sure if intentional but you're missing a lot of those 1/4s
13:17 MEGAtive: Hmm
13:18 MEGAtive: Applied them
13:19 MEGAtive: Dunno why I kept missing some instruments
13:19 -Kamikaze-: 00:33:299 (33299|5,33299|3,33448|2,33448|0) - those are heavier drums from what I hear so maybe add a note to each?
13:19 MEGAtive: So triplets?
13:20 -Kamikaze-: 456 for first and 123 for second
13:20 -Kamikaze-: ye
13:20 MEGAtive: Okay, then applied
13:20 -Kamikaze-: (triplets refer to three notes in succesion and not three at the same time btw)
13:21 MEGAtive: Oh
13:21 -Kamikaze-: 00:37:403 - missing note again lol
13:21 -Kamikaze-: aa I said I won't point out more of them
13:21 -Kamikaze-: w/e
13:22 MEGAtive: Lol why do I kept missing those notes Orz
13:22 -Kamikaze-: 00:42:851 (42851|3,42851|1,42926|2,43000|3,43000|5,43075|4,43150|5) - this pattern is bad to play tbh
13:22 MEGAtive: Is it?
13:22 -Kamikaze-: and I don't hear any significant sounds for the 1/4s inbetween doubles unless it's for that guitar
13:23 -Kamikaze-: yeah that's a really awkward pattern
13:23 -Kamikaze-: 00:42:851 (42851|3,43000|5) - those notes are too close to the stair
13:23 -Kamikaze-: would like to see a more scrambled pattern here tbh
13:23 MEGAtive: Oh yeah that's an echo
13:23 MEGAtive: So delete those 1/4 notes
13:23 -Kamikaze-: oki
13:24 -Kamikaze-: 00:47:926 - from now on you should make chords heavier to mark the intensity increase
13:25 MEGAtive: So make the chords triplets?
13:25 -Kamikaze-: triples*
13:25 -Kamikaze-: yea
13:26 MEGAtive: Oh yeah Triples
13:26 -Kamikaze-: 00:50:015 (50015|4,50015|5,50164|3,50164|2) - you could start layering the breakcore sounds slowly
13:26 -Kamikaze-: o wait wrong pasta
13:27 -Kamikaze-: that's for after those chords
13:27 -Kamikaze-: I was going to say that you could jack those chords to accent that beat
13:27 -Kamikaze-: 00:52:403 (52403|3,52553|4,52702|3) - same here, jack for beat seems nice
13:27 MEGAtive: Hmm, Okay Jacked
13:27 -Kamikaze-: 00:53:597 (53597|2,53747|3,53896|2) - ^
13:28 MEGAtive: Jacked them
13:28 -Kamikaze-: ok cool
13:28 -Kamikaze-: 00:57:478 - you totally should double those jacks
13:28 -Kamikaze-: I saw you layer similar jacks later with 3 notes
13:29 -Kamikaze-: 00:58:672 (58672|2,58771|2,58871|2) - you can leave that one alone tho because beat that's going alongside jacks is going into a burst
13:29 -Kamikaze-: not sure if you want to map it
13:30 -Kamikaze-: 00:59:866 - same
13:30 MEGAtive: Well that's Pharos' Part
13:30 MEGAtive: 00:58:672 (58672|2,58771|2,58871|2) - Mine's from here
13:30 -Kamikaze-: ok so will point out things and you can link him the log
13:30 -Kamikaze-: ok?
13:30 MEGAtive: Ok
13:31 -Kamikaze-: 01:01:060 - missing 1/4 piano stream
13:31 -Kamikaze-: 01:01:657 - should be doubled as well imho, not necessairly jacks
13:32 MEGAtive: Isn't that already a double?
13:32 -Kamikaze-: I mean the notes after
13:33 MEGAtive: Oh
13:33 -Kamikaze-: 01:01:657 (61657|0,61707|1,61757|2,61856|4,61956|5,62055|2,62155|4,62254|5) -
13:33 MEGAtive: Ok
13:33 -Kamikaze-: you should use more scrambled patterns because I see an awful lot of stairs btw
13:34 MEGAtive: Hmm, Ok
13:34 -Kamikaze-: 01:06:433 (66433|0,66508|2,66582|0,66657|2,66732|0) - this pattern is ughhhh as well
13:34 -Kamikaze-: with the jack on right hand
13:34 -Kamikaze-: do a 23232 trill, should be better
13:34 MEGAtive: Ok
13:35 MEGAtive: Should 01:06:881 (66881|0) - moved to 2 as well?
13:36 -Kamikaze-: nah it's fine
13:36 -Kamikaze-: I'm kinda irked about the structure too
13:36 MEGAtive: Ok
13:36 -Kamikaze-: what I mean is
13:36 -Kamikaze-: you have so many sounds
13:36 -Kamikaze-: the breakcore rhythm
13:36 -Kamikaze-: and you don't map nearly anything from it
13:37 MEGAtive: Hmm
13:37 -Kamikaze-: I'll show you what I mean in a second
13:37 MEGAtive: I think so
13:37 MEGAtive: I should map the breakcore then
13:37 -Kamikaze-: 01:11:508 (71508|5,71582|4,71657|3,71732|2,71806|1) - layering this piano 1/4 with an overwhelming fast burst not mapped is lol
13:38 MEGAtive: Lol
13:39 MEGAtive: What snap it's?
13:39 MEGAtive: Wait, I think Pharos is mapping the piano there
13:39 -Kamikaze-: yes but mapping that piano on top of a 5 times louder burst
13:40 -Kamikaze-: is bad
13:40 -Kamikaze-: imho
13:40 MEGAtive: Hmm
13:40 MEGAtive: Should he add an LN for the Burst and map the Piano?
13:40 -Kamikaze-: on his place I wouldn't map piano
13:40 -Kamikaze-: just the burst
13:40 -Kamikaze-: it feels so forced
13:40 MEGAtive: Or fully map the burst? Though I don't know what snap it's
13:41 MEGAtive: Ok
13:42 -Kamikaze-: from 01:11:806 - this is what annoys me, this part is intense, has a lot of sounds, many possibilities to make it exciting
13:42 -Kamikaze-: and look how easy it is
13:43 -Kamikaze-: 01:15:985 (75985|0,75985|4,76060|4,76060|1,76135|2,76135|4,76209|4,76209|0,76284|4,76284|1) - tho this should be more like http://puu.sh/l4hOl/cc82f8e711.png
13:43 MEGAtive: Hmm Tbh I'm agree with you
13:44 MEGAtive: Maybe he's really sticking with the pitch there.
13:44 -Kamikaze-: so make it a 25 jack
13:44 -Kamikaze-: one column jack and onehanded stair at the same time is so awkward
13:45 -Kamikaze-: 01:44:642 (104642|5,104642|0,104717|4,104717|1,104791|2,104791|3,104866|1,104866|4) - same here
13:45 MEGAtive: Hmm, agree actually
13:45 -Kamikaze-: as well as this pattern 01:44:717 (104717|1,104717|4,104791|3,104791|2,104866|4,104866|1,104941|3,104941|5,104941|2,104941|0) - can be awkward to play
13:45 -Kamikaze-: I got it on first time but I just feel that it might not be good
13:45 -Kamikaze-: not sure about it though
13:45 MEGAtive: Oh, that's mine
13:46 -Kamikaze-: 01:54:791 - suddenly piano notes stop
13:46 -Kamikaze-: when they're still playing
13:46 MEGAtive: I'm still unsure how to map those
13:46 MEGAtive: Pianos....
13:46 MEGAtive: Okay, that's Shinzo's part
13:47 MEGAtive: Will talk to him later
13:47 -Kamikaze-: just keep a consistent stream of notes as piano is consistently playing all the time
13:47 -Kamikaze-: 02:23:249 (143249|4,143349|3,143349|4,143448|3) - this thing is awful
13:48 -Kamikaze-: second jack is okay, but two mixed like that are ewww
13:48 MEGAtive: Ok
13:49 MEGAtive: That Jack is bad?
13:49 -Kamikaze-: it's dreadfully weird to play
13:49 -Kamikaze-: second one is fine like I said
13:49 MEGAtive: Hmm
13:50 MEGAtive: Ok, then
13:50 -Kamikaze-: but those two mixed that way, with other notes, holding down LN and switching to next one
13:50 MEGAtive: 02:23:249 (143249|4,143349|4,143349|3,143448|3) - You mean these Jacks?
13:50 -Kamikaze-: '_>'
13:50 -Kamikaze-: yes
13:50 MEGAtive: 02:27:627 -
13:50 MEGAtive: Wrong paste
13:50 MEGAtive: Ok
13:50 -Kamikaze-: 02:27:627 (147627|3,147627|4,147727|4,147727|3,147826|1,147826|2,147926|2,147926|1) - those are fine
13:51 MEGAtive: Ok
13:51 -Kamikaze-: 02:59:866 - I'm not sure why second half of that chordstream has same density as first half because sound kinda dies off there
13:51 -Kamikaze-: and 02:59:941 (179941|1,179941|4,180015|5,180015|0,180090|4,180090|1,180164|5,180164|0,180239|1,180239|4,180314|5,180314|0,180388|1,180388|4) -
13:51 -Kamikaze-: those trill
13:52 -Kamikaze-: holy shit
13:52 MEGAtive: Hmm
13:52 MEGAtive: That's mine
13:52 -Kamikaze-: there's really not much I can say about that map tbh
13:52 MEGAtive: Hmm, I can't figure a better pattern for that
13:52 MEGAtive: Ok
13:53 -Kamikaze-: it's just too focused on piano
13:53 -Kamikaze-: and needs more focus on breakcore part
13:53 -Kamikaze-: patterns are generally good
13:53 MEGAtive: Yeah, I know
13:54 MEGAtive: From 02:38:373 - I use LNs, should I map the Breakcores too?
13:54 -Kamikaze-: as for 02:59:866 - try something like this http://puu.sh/l4if7/602a8d8bfb.png
13:55 MEGAtive: 03:00:164 - Triple?
13:55 -Kamikaze-: 02:38:373 - apart from pattern being ass stairy it's fine, single notes can work for a breakcore part as well
13:55 -Kamikaze-: 03:00:164 - yeah, idk why that's a quad tbh
13:56 -Kamikaze-: clap isn't that loud
13:56 MEGAtive: Hmm
13:56 MEGAtive: Okay, made it a triple
13:57 -Kamikaze-: 04:10:911 - this is a perfect example of what's wrong with this map
13:57 -Kamikaze-: it's very intense
13:57 -Kamikaze-: has kiai even
13:57 -Kamikaze-: and it's soooo easy
13:57 -Kamikaze-: so underwhelming
13:57 -Kamikaze-: that it feels WIP even
13:58 MEGAtive: Hmm
13:58 MEGAtive: Agree
13:58 MEGAtive: That's Pharos' Part.... Again XD
13:59 -Kamikaze-: lol
13:59 -Kamikaze-: so anyway, I really don't have anything more to say about that map, sorry if I'm not much of a help
13:59 MEGAtive: Ok
13:59 MEGAtive: It's really helpful, though
14:00 -Kamikaze-: glad to hear that :D
14:00 MEGAtive: Nearly none can mod this
14:00 MEGAtive: Then Yaay finally got one
14:00 MEGAtive: Really, Thanks
14:00 -Kamikaze-: I'm sure you could find pepole who can mod it as well
14:00 -Kamikaze-: but that's after the remaps you need to do
14:00 MEGAtive: Well, I think
14:00 MEGAtive: Ok
14:01 -Kamikaze-: anyway, imma go post log now
14:01 -Kamikaze-: ' w'