woops here we go again :^)
"Higher quality of maps in general"Aqo wrote:
where's the option to rank maps that are actually good
Yeah, still basically no progress on writing up a real wall of text on that subject lol.Shoegazer wrote:
Can someone give a solid argument as to why dumps should be ranked? Bobbias gave his viewpoint on such and it was eventually an agree to disagree thing.
This is coming from someone who has been pumping out dump charts for the past year or so.
A direct result of the mapping meta that certain prolific mappers have established in the past and has become the standardRilene wrote:
I would like to see anything that isn't...Basically these and some bit more on the poll.
- Hold-note spam, I'm ok with if it is used properly.
- Weird pattern out of nowhere.
- 1/2 on calm off-chorus and 1/1 on intense chorus.
Thanks for the response, although we've probably discussed this time and time again.Bobbias wrote:
Anyway, personally I feel like dumps are more or less an inevitable element to rhythm games where people are able to create their own charts. Dumps allow for extreme levels of creativity from the mapper (since they are no longer restricted to following the music in a note for note fashion). This freedom comes with it's own issues of course. A carefully constructed dump will usually have very interesting patterns that still follow the structure of the music and should also have a lot of emphasis on pattern playability, while a poorly constructed one may have little or no real structure at all, and patterns that may be essentially unplayable.
Because of this level of variability between good and bad, allowing dumps to be rankable would mean that any dumps being considered for ranking should definitely be looked at by someone who has a very strong understanding of structure and pattern playability. On the other hand, allowing dumps would allow for some very unique maps that have a very strong sense of personality due to the structure/patterns used, which is something I feel osu!mania is lacking. While there are certainly still several maps with a strong sense of personality, a large number of ranked mania maps right now feel very samey and uninteresting to me.
For reference, I would consider many of the extremely difficult o2jam and BMS charts as dumps, even though they aren't generally referred to as such by their respective communities.
Damn.BilliumMoto wrote:
A direct result of the mapping meta that certain prolific mappers have established in the past and has become the standard
I'd list that under 'wider variety of song choices'EtienneXC wrote:
Is "less anime maps" an option?
https://gist.github.com/peppy/1287114f461bacf88bffExUsagi wrote:
=A= there's no way to reduce anime size getting ranked
this.Shoegazer wrote:
Most of these are extremely generic rhythm game music (SDVX comes to mind) or anime OPs which are also generic in structure. Music like breakcore, progressive rock/metal (though this is somewhat understandable, given how bad the osu editor is and time signature bullshit, that's a suggestion I'd like to see) and classical are all genres that are completely overlooked by the mania community.
TFW there are less count of modders that can mod marathon maps.Rilene wrote:
SDVX and TV size maps is easier to rank compared to others in o!m. ;-;
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need more SDVX edit maps
all keys ? of course
WOOSHHHSpectorDG wrote:
need more SDVX edit maps
inb4 just 4K onlySpectorDG wrote:
all keys ? of course
While osu offers the freedom of having any song you'd like, there are not enough mappers or modders that want to take care of anything but the usual TV size or SDVX bollocks. That is the reason why this option is in the pollRilene wrote:
"Wider variety of song choices in mania maps"
About this, I don't think this matter any at all as you can have any songs in osu!, even songs with inappropriate languages or sound.
Oh well, that's kinda right.Jole wrote:
While osu offers the freedom of having any song you'd like, there are not enough mappers or modders that want to take care of anything but the usual TV size or SDVX bollocks. That is the reason why this option is in the pollRilene wrote:
"Wider variety of song choices in mania maps"
About this, I don't think this matter any at all as you can have any songs in osu!, even songs with inappropriate languages or sound.
I want to rank by BMS map but no modders, even requested at modding queue.-Kamikaze- wrote:
That's also why I don't like threads like this one. Talking about how much you want xyz maps to get ranked is useless because pepole will nod and go on without doing much about it. Don't talk about the change. Be the change. I'll support you as much as I can.
Basically these are needed.Redon wrote:
- Consistency within and across diffs
- Difficulty balance, don't make the last third of the map twice as hard as the rest
- No LN spam/layering abuse, treat LN ends as a note of its own, pay attention to when a sound ends and what warrants an LN, also see above
- No SV that aren't sightreadable, look at Agka's guide on how to make them playable
Cuppp wrote:
Make 1 diff rankable regardless of length of song, remove stupid 3 of either E/N/H/I rule.
But we still have problem, if we remove this ranking criteria, it would have to affect other gamemode as well.Elementaires wrote:
Cuppp wrote:
Make 1 diff rankable regardless of length of song, remove stupid 3 of either E/N/H/I rule.