Maon Kurosaki - Harmonized Clover · forum

Flask

Beatmap Nominator

3,460 posts

Joined July 2011

Flask 2015-10-25T04:45:21+00:00

[General]

Tag Alex Li
meta沒問題, 記得把video補上啊

[柚子的胡桃]

基本上對副歌前的part來說ar9有點太快了, ar8.5我能讀, 你可以斟酌一下8.7左右
另外od跟hp都可以提高不然跟人格的I一樣
不用其他diff的combo color嗎
00:39:275 (4,5) - 這兩個distance突然變小了打起來不太協調可以放到x:148 y:148附近
00:41:232 (3,4) - 我感覺這也能再大點 (4)可以擺到 x:308, y:360
00:44:819 (3,4) - 這兩個的sliderhead都可以上clap 進kiai前這一小段空著不好聽
kiai裡面我覺得可以下whistle的點
00:46:775 -
00:48:080 -
00:54:601 -
00:55:580 (8,9) -
00:57:862 -
00:58:514 -
01:03:732 -
01:05:036 (1) -
01:07:645 -
01:08:949 -
01:17:917 -
01:04:873 (4,2,3,3,4) - 這些都加clap然後聽聽看喜歡的話keep (我感覺這邊節奏很密但音效很空:<)
有個折返被遮住可能會unrankable我不太確定

[人格]

00:34:058 (4) - lower volume
00:44:493 - 這個加normal-clap 00:44:819 - 00:45:145 - 00:45:308 - 這三個加soft-clap 進kiai前音效空掉不好
01:05:036 (6) - 可以下NC 讓後面節奏比較密的部分跟前面分開
01:05:688 (9,11,12) - 這幾個都加soft-clap試試

[唱戲]

01:05:362 - 01:05:688 - 01:06:014 - 01:06:178 - 可以加soft-hitclap 比較不會聽起來那麼空
01:23:949 (3,4,5) - 等距

[AL]

00:44:819 - 00:45:145 - 可以上clap 進kiai前比較不會這麼空
00:58:514 (1) - 01:03:732 - 01:05:036 - whistle沒上到
01:06:014 (4) - 這頭尾也可以上clap

[駿喵]

01:06:014 - 我覺得這個也可以Normal-sampleset 這裡正要進第二段副歌前音效放緊湊一點聽起來cool

找超市完之後叫我~

wcx19911123

3,862 posts

Joined June 2010

wcx19911123 2015-10-25T05:31:11+00:00

改了点摸，小心general，比如video之类的

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Gakkou Gurashi! ED.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 44004
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Harmonized Clover
TitleUnicode:ハーモナイズ・クローバー
Artist:Kurosaki Maon
ArtistUnicode:黒崎真音
Creator:Karen
Version:wcx's Hard
Source:がっこうぐらし！
Tags:Gakkou Gurashi! ending tv size kawaiwkyik rizia Mackenzie wcx19911123 IamKwaN
BeatmapID:758642
BeatmapSetID:339907

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.92
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2015-10-25T06:00:22+00:00

Okie dokie

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Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2015-10-25T06:40:27+00:00

Peachtrees wrote:
wkyik's Rizia

[*]00:03:080 (4,1) - this might just be me, but I feel as though 1 could use a little more emphasize since right now these are even closer than the actual DS would suggest since the player will end the slider early due to slider leniency..almost like a mini slowdown >< it's look good to me
[*]00:25:743 (3) - has a very noticeable drum land on it, which you have been following for the enitre previous part
[*]00:40:906 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - would be kinda cool to have green lines here to gradually increase the volume I think c:
[*]00:56:558 (2,3) - blanket here actually does look kinda sloppy, sooOoOO if you can be bothered to adjust this..;_;

Great song, best of luck with your map![/list]

Mikkuri wrote:
[wkyik's Rizia]
SPOILER
00:20:851 (2) - add clap
00:28:351 (3) - make 1/2 slider and add note instead? I want this point to fill with clap 00:28:678
00:37:156 (5) - add clap
00:39:601 (5) - add additions drum-finish
00:46:775 (6) - add clap at return
00:49:547 (2) - add clap
00:51:993 (4) - add clap tail
00:52:645 (6) - add whistle
00:54:601 (5) - whistle head
00:55:580 (8,9) - add clap here is my opinion custom hitsound, make a map not boring
00:57:047 (3) - add clap tail
00:58:514 (1) - whistle head
01:05:199 (2) - add clap
01:06:014 (3) - add additions drum-clap or drum-finish
01:07:645 (4) - add clap tail
01:10:091 (5) - add clap?
01:10:254 (6) - add clap tail
01:12:862 (5) - ^
01:15:471 (5) - ^
01:16:449 (9,10) - same as above
01:18:243 (4) - add clap
01:21:667 (5) - change to additions drum-finish?

fixed all hitsound here!

Doyak wrote:
[wkyik's Kurumi]
* 00:21:178 (4) - the drum feels like 2/12 and 1/12. Not sure it's fine to just use 1/8 there. it should be 1/8
* 00:21:830 (7,1) - You don't want to blanket this?
* 00:36:667 (3,4) - this too, feels like 1/6 same
* 00:45:471 (1) - I think the SV gap is way too big. The song is pretty consistent and I don't think there should be this big SV jump on the kiai. At least increase sv little by little from 00:37:645 - since the tension goes tighter? done something to make them not too coufused
* 01:17:428 (2,3) - better blanket please.
* 01:19:384 (1) - Same here, this might be too confusing. It's more than 2x speed gap. The song only starts to loosen the tension just now, but this sudden decrease of SV is too much imo. i think it's should be fine

Nice mapset Good luck.

Taeyang wrote:
wkyik's Kurumi
00:00:471 (1,2,3) - make jump (like insane diff)
00:20:688 (1,2,3,4) - how do you like this? 00:21:014 (3,4) - stack it's hard too read after change
01:23:297 (2,3,4,5,6) - suggest
SPOILER

good luck~!

-Hakurei- wrote:
[wkyik's Kurumi]
00:24:275 (5,1) - whistle
00:26:232 (5) - whistle for 3 of them (don't use slider whistle)
00:27:210 (1) - whistle head
00:29:819 (1) - whistle
00:31:123 (6) - ^
00:54:601 (5) - head whistle
00:58:514 (1) - head whistle
01:03:732 (1) - head whistle
01:05:199 (2,4,5) - normal sampleset
01:05:036 (1) - whistle
LMAO chat

that's all from me. GL!

fixed all hitsound too!

-Nanaka- wrote:
wkyik's Kurumi
00:00:797 (3) - Drum Finish here?
00:07:645 - Here is the starting point because here extends the sound? vocal
00:07:482 - add note,00:07:645 - 1/2slider
00:20:688 (1,5) - Sample normal here? custom hitsound
00:38:134 (2,1) - I think easy to play is 1/2 slider
00:39:438 - add note, It jammed during play
00:39:601 (6) - add Drum Finish?
00:44:819 - 00:45:145 - add whistle, same as Insane
00:54:601 - missing whistle
00:58:514 - ^
01:03:732 - ^
01:05:036 - ^
01:05:199 (2,2) - Sample normal?
01:17:917 - 01:18:406 - 01:19:058 - add whistle? very fit imo
01:19:384 (1,2) - too close, more DS want to keep this ds

Very like flow

Chaoslitz wrote:
[wkyik]
00:17:264 (2,3) - 這邊不要重疊啦, 00:16:449 (8,9,1) 這3個重疊就好
BPM這麼低又用了1.8x kiai就不要加乘那麼大啦... 1.5-1.6已經很足夠 1.8我覺得還好///
00:54:601 (5,6) - 這個快碰到了
01:14:167 (1,3) - 我怕這個應該會unrankable.. 可讀的話我覺得可以試試
[/notice]

改完叫我

Flask wrote:
[General]
Tag Alex Li
meta沒問題, 記得把video補上啊
[柚子的胡桃]
基本上對副歌前的part來說ar9有點太快了, ar8.5我能讀, 你可以斟酌一下8.7左右
另外od跟hp都可以提高不然跟人格的I一樣
不用其他diff的combo color嗎
00:39:275 (4,5) - 這兩個distance突然變小了打起來不太協調可以放到x:148 y:148附近 改了梗
00:41:232 (3,4) - 我感覺這也能再大點 (4)可以擺到 x:308, y:360 風格吧...整段都微調了一下
00:44:819 (3,4) - 這兩個的sliderhead都可以上clap 進kiai前這一小段空著不好聽 加了whsitle
kiai裡面我覺得可以下whistle的點
00:46:775 - 有的背景音樂不太明顯的沒加我感覺會有點吵
00:48:080 -
00:54:601 -
00:55:580 (8,9) -
00:57:862 -
00:58:514 -
01:03:732 -
01:05:036 (1) -
01:07:645 -
01:08:949 -
01:17:917 -

01:04:873 (4,2,3,3,4) - 這些都加clap然後聽聽看喜歡的話keep (我感覺這邊節奏很密但音效很空:<) 加了部份地方
有個折返被遮住可能會unrankable我不太確定

找超市完之後叫我~

thanks for mod!
no comment = fixed
媽的終於改完了

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MirinH

726 posts

Joined January 2013

MirinH 2015-10-25T06:51:50+00:00

我sim卡被鎖了

MirinH

726 posts

Joined January 2013

MirinH 2015-10-25T07:19:20+00:00

Peachtrees wrote:
Mackenzie's Normal

00:02:101 (2,3) - switchin these two feels a lot more intuitive to follow >< ?
00:07:971 (4) - are you sure about skipping both vocals AND drums on the white tick here? both of em are way stronger than the ones landing on the red tick guitar and bass
00:12:536 (2,3) - ^
00:58:514 (1) - shouldn't this have a whistle too? same for 01:03:732 (1) - this one. Makes more sense since 01:01:123 (1) - 00:53:297 (5) - etc have whistles on them too k
[/quote="Mikkuri"]
[Mackenzie's Normal]
SPOILER
00:05:036 (7) - the slider shape lol dont mind dont mind
00:31:775 (9) - add clap at return and additions drum-clap at tail k
00:35:036 (3) - remove nc k
00:36:993 (4) - same as 00:31:775 (9) - k
00:39:601 (4) - add additions drum-clap head
00:40:906 (2,3,4,5) - make hitsound a bit interesting? by chang a volume 10% every single note k
00:44:167 (2) - same as 00:36:993 (4) - and 00:31:775 (9) -
00:49:547 (7) - add clap head
00:52:645 (4) - add whistle head
01:03:732 (1) - ^
01:06:014 (4) - add clap head
01:10:417 (7) - ^
01:15:634 (7) - ^
01:21:667 (3) - add additions drum-clap?
01:23:297 (1,1) - move these two away? make a triangle shape, if not it's just boring. and remove nc maybe no
Doyak wrote:
[Mackenzie's Normal]
* 00:44:819 (3) - I don't hear any good sounds for those 1/4s, especially for 00:44:819 - here. If it's about that very little drum sound, I can barely hear it. I would follow vocal there instead. drum
* 01:13:188 (3,4,5) - Make a better triangle shape? 4 is a bit close to 5 looks good
* 00:48:080 (5) - 00:53:297 (5) - 01:08:949 (5) - 01:14:167 (5) - Why only they have different NC term? y not
* 01:10:254 - 01:15:471 - I can't overlook those sound... map it? bass
* 01:21:993 (1,1,1) - I think it's little boring. Make them move around? y
-Hakurei- wrote:
[Mackenzie's Normal]
00:08:949 (5) - NC
00:20:036 (5) - NC
00:39:601 (4) - drum hitsound (start for clap, end for finish)
00:48:080 (5) - NC
00:53:297 (5) - ^
01:08:949 (5) - ^
01:14:167 (5) - ^
no
-Nanaka- wrote:
Mackenzie's Normal

00:02:101 (2,3) - Ctrl + G rhythm better hmm?
00:03:732 (5) - NC y
00:07:971 (4) - 00:06:667 (2,3) - You here sound picked up did not for melody is strange ????
it should not be ignored here 00:08:297 -
00:07:971 - add circle
00:08:297 - 1/2slider
00:08:949 - 1/1slider too hard
00:09:928 - circle. just fit for me :3 no
00:08:949 (5) - NC y
00:12:536 (2,3) - ^ G rhythm here
00:15:145 (2,3) - ^
00:17:754 (2,3) - ^ you can follow the rhythm and vocal nah
00:18:732 (4) - 1/1slider and 00:19:710 - add note? if you change NC 00:19:384 - bass
00:21:993 (1) - 1/1slider. imo no
00:35:036 (1) - unnecessary nc k
00:40:254 (1) - un fit vocal :< I like 1/1slider　00:41:232 - add note this is better for the drum rhythm
00:42:210 (4,5) - I think i should not stack but i should
00:45:145 - add whistle? k
00:49:058 (6,7,8) - Do not pick up the piano for the beginner player? they dont play with music
I think that hard this rhythm to understand
00:54:275 (6,7) - ^
00:58:514 - missing whistle k
01:03:732 - ^ k
01:06:014 (4) - Change to circle no
01:23:297 (1,1) - unnecessary nc finish

chaos除了flow之外all no fix，我個人比較喜歡反向flow sorry

flask all fix

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TitleUnicode:ハーモナイズ・クローバー
Artist:Kurosaki Maon
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Creator:Karen
Version:Mackenzie's Normal
Source:がっこうぐらし！
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Karen

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Topic Starter

Karen 2015-10-25T12:31:43+00:00

-Nanaka- wrote:
General
plz Audio Leedin 2000

Insane
00:00:471 (1,2) - noisy...Sample normal fit. imo decreased volume
00:12:862 (4) - I like curve flow hmm changed the pattern here
SPOILER
00:17:917 (4,5,6,7) - It is too steep flowing.I hate :< try this i like it :<
SPOILER
00:23:460 (5,6,1) - ummm...I think that it is not a good flow
00:23:623 (6) - try this flow
SPOILER
00:25:743 (4,5) - too close, Natural playng for 00:25:906 (5) - its ok imo
SPOILER
00:26:232 - add whistle?　I want to follow the piano hmm i dont want to break the consistency here
00:27:210 - 00:28:841 - 00:29:819 - 00:31:123 - ^
00:34:710 (5) - Remove note ,very small sound here [/color]
00:37:971 - 00:38:949 - 00:39:112 - 00:39:275 - 00:39:601 - Drum clap seems out of place to be in this continuous
Volume down or try this sound
00:37:971 - Drum Finish
00:38:134 - whistle
00:38:623 - ^
00:38:949 (4) - Sample Drum Finish
00:39:112 (5) - Drum Finish
00:39:275 - ^
00:39:438 - whistle
00:39:601 - Sample Drum Finish
00:39:928 - whistle all applied except whistles
00:42:047 (5) - Remove note, also 00:42:536 - I want to click here [/color]
SPOILER
00:42:536 (6,7,1) - Jump a bit
00:44:493 - 00:45:145 - add whistle? become lively sound hmm i dont like it
01:05:036 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - u---m< Personally
01:05:036 - Change to soft whistle
01:05:199 - Change to soft Clap
01:05:688 (9) - ^
01:05:851 (10) - ^
01:06:014 (11) - Change to soft whistle, Well it's my favorite
01:05:525 (7) - NC, 1/8 3hit here no need here imo
01:17:917 (4,5) - try Ctrl + G rhythm hmm i would like to follow 01:18:080 - this
01:23:949 - 01:24:438 - add whistle? Either is fine lol added on the first one

@超市，FFF，都改了

thanks for mods!

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

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Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2015-11-03T15:30:30+00:00

Bubbled

@Flask: 幫我看看柚子01:14:493 (3) - 這折返有沒有問題

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

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Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2015-11-05T14:45:44+00:00

Rebub due to self pop

Wafu

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Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-11-07T16:49:45+00:00

I hope I don't ninja someone, but I'd like to mod this and eventually move it forward. Just a placeholder.

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-11-07T17:04:27+00:00

drum-hitfinish88.wav doesn't last for 100ms which is unrankable. Here's the fixed version: http://puu.sh/lcPlM/ce074d60d9.wav

Will mod this set once Wafu's posted his wall.

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

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IamKwaN 2015-11-07T17:13:15+00:00

eww why? It lasts for 159 ms. I have used it for so many maps, and no one points out it is unrankable. lol

Wafu

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Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-11-07T17:44:38+00:00

Indeed. Yuii-'s file is also 500ms, which is also not a cool thing if most of it is silence.

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-11-07T18:59:41+00:00

Probably my mistake, then. I'm not at home at the moment, but I'm pretty sure that file was around 70 ms ~

Will re-check and fix the bubble as soon as I can confirm.

Nah, close enough

Anyway, here's a real mod (?

[wkyik's Kurumi]

The clap you are using is too loud, especially during the intro.

00:55:906 (1,2) - If you compare that jump and the ones on 00:56:558 (2,3,4) - you will notice that they are almost the same, and for the sake of the kind of the difficulty you are mapping, this makes it quite counter-intuitive. Maybe the transition from (3,4) is a bit more "obvious", but still... you should look into that.
00:57:047 (3) - Clap on tail intended? I can't hear anything there.
01:11:232 (10) - There's no clap there, but there's a clap 01:16:449 (9) - ... sooo which one are you going to put?
01:11:069 (9,10,11) - Could be nerfed, imo, no need for such spacing. There's nothing in the music to emphasise that much, especially the transition from (11,1), if you analyze the following patterns you will see how the flow and spacing differ so much.

[Insane]

00:06:830 (2) - I understand why you placed a circle, here, but I'm aware of the fact that there's nothing on the following patterns, like 00:12:047 - for example.
00:29:493 (6,7,1) - Linear flow? Are you sure you don't want to create any pattern here? You can make something similar to 00:54:275 (3,4,5) - looks better, in my opinion.
01:13:514 (6,7,1) - Such a weird and poor flow over here. Maybe you can try something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3930826 .

[wcx's Hard]

01:05:036 (5,6,7) - Can be a bit too tricky considering this is a Hard difficulty, what about NC'ing (6) for some readability?

[Mackenzie's Normal]

00:14:167 (1) - Remove NC, remember that you are adding a new one every 2 stanzas.

[KwaNie]

00:44:167 (1,1) - DS is broken here?

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Clean mapset overall. You can call me back after you've replied to the mod above; and after Wafu's bubbled!

EDIT: @Fycho: Doesn't make sense to me, but if you say so it's fine, then!
Sorry for the bubble pop and the inconveniences that I may have caused, won't happen again.

Last edited by Yuii- 2015-11-07T23:26:35+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Fycho

Global Moderator

2,479 posts

Joined August 2012

Fycho 2015-11-07T23:14:39+00:00

Yuii-, to avoid soundcard issues, we judge hitsounds according the file length, not the audible length, so it's fine.

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Karen 2015-11-07T23:38:47+00:00

every help is welcomed, i dont care about the ranking speed.
will check mods after wafu finishes his mod, thanks yuii and wafu.

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-11-08T12:00:54+00:00

Random mod

Red - Unrankable
Blue - Highly recommended
Black - Suggestion

General

mp3 quality is insufficient. Respectively, though it says it is 192kbps, it's quality is less than that - that uselessly increases filesize. Its quality is less than 128kbps in real (a little bit, but this doesn't allow you to take bad quality and encode it to higher. For comparison, you may want to take a look at this:
Your "fake" 192kbps
Real 128kbps
Real 192kbps
See it caps frequencies on higher level? Re-encoding lossy source is also thing that does have effect on quality. For reference, you may check ziin's guide on how to know whether mp3 is good or bad. In that case, You'd need to see lossless quality of the song:
Screenshot
But, well, that's just an explanation, I want it to be clear to everyone instead of someone shouting: "Omg it was 192kbps, are you serious ;_;". You should use this mp3, which solves this problem pretty easily. (Offset change to -1529, respectively to 1079 as explained below)
Well... about the offset. Most of time, negative offset is wrong. And this is also the case. Downbeat is never out of song, the very first downbeat is on 1079 and that should also be offset. (I consider you changed the mp3 as explained above). First three drums are just anacrusis:

Wikipedia wrote:
In music, an anacrusis (also known as a pickup) is a note or sequence of notes which precedes the first downbeat in a bar in a musical phrase.
It was also explained on osu! many times, unless you need to change SV of anacrusis notes, it's just garbage to keep the offset negative. Just put it on first downbeat.
I don't want to explain this much, but most people don't know what are they doing when encoding and they do just "click this, change bitrate, yay" method, without realizing how does it work. Defaultly, x264/H.264 is supposed to render for strong machines and most likely, is set up for a blu-ray release. There are certain functions (CABAC, Deblocking filter), which are completely useless for anything that's not BD. I won't explain function in depth, it would take a very long time to explain how these two work in-depth and would probably require 1 A4 for each. If I am really simple, these are used to reduce filesize by removing some frames that are similar and just writing an instruction on how to build them - so basically in normal method, the graphics card just takes frames from file and shows them one by one. However these filters omit some frames so the graphics card does have to load basic frame and then calculate changes to the certain image to render other frames. tl;dr it's completely useless for PC users and just causes graphics card to load a lot. If possible, replace the current video with this one, it does have even a slightly better quality, but that doesn't matter that much as previous issue. I'll maybe make a whole post about why it is inappropriate for osu!. You video does also have a little render bug on start. New video offset should be -745
Change the gray combo for another color or darker gray. It blends pretty much in the white part of video.
Following suggestions use updated offset!

wkyik's Kurumi

00:49:340 (1) - Regarding your combo pattern, this one is inconsistent and is not used on anything special to be broken. It's just regular musical pattern, nothing like 01:04:992 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this was cool, but previous didn't make sense with the song.

Mackenzie's Normal

00:07:927 (4) - This slider omits quite important snare on 00:08:252 - and respectively is only ignored snare in whole map, which is really insensible. Please, make 00:08:252 - clickable as it is definitely more important than soft bass with kick on 00:07:926 - and very quiet guitar with voice on 00:08:578 - . Best solution would probably be this:
Screenshot
New Combos are really variable and inconsistent. Moreover, considering it is normal, there shouldn't be anything like 8 long combo or something, HP retrieval is really terrifying on such long combos, especially on low diffs, apart from that, you sometimes used shorter combos in kiai - these were basically what you should go for in the whole map. If possible, use NC each 1 measure instead of 2.
00:21:948 - Useless inherited point, no change was done in comparison with previous point.

KwaN's Easy

00:44:122 (1,1) - I noticed all other 1/2 gaps had 1.0x spacing, just this one does have 0.66.x, respectively this is only one spacing change and I think this is a very big change in comparison with other patters like this. Rhythmically it doesn't even make sense to decrease spacing, when song gets stronger here.

IamKwaN

osu! Alumni

3,905 posts

Joined August 2012

IamKwaN 2015-11-10T13:00:38+00:00

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3Q

MirinH

726 posts

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MirinH 2015-11-13T04:06:42+00:00

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Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2015-11-14T05:43:20+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[wkyik's Kurumi]

The clap you are using is too loud, especially during the intro.

00:55:906 (1,2) - If you compare that jump and the ones on 00:56:558 (2,3,4) - you will notice that they are almost the same, and for the sake of the kind of the difficulty you are mapping, this makes it quite counter-intuitive. Maybe the transition from (3,4) is a bit more "obvious", but still... you should look into that. keep, i think it still can clear to read
00:57:047 (3) - Clap on tail intended? I can't hear anything there. i feel kinda empty if i remove that, so keep
01:11:232 (10) - There's no clap there, but there's a clap 01:16:449 (9) - ... sooo which one are you going to put? added
01:11:069 (9,10,11) - Could be nerfed, imo, no need for such spacing. There's nothing in the music to emphasise that much, especially the transition from (11,1), if you analyze the following patterns you will see how the flow and spacing differ so much. jump pattern
.

Wafu wrote:
wkyik's Kurumi
00:49:340 (1) - Regarding your combo pattern, this one is inconsistent and is not used on anything special to be broken. It's just regular musical pattern, nothing like 01:04:992 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this was cool, but previous didn't make sense with the song.
fixed

68565677560

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Karen

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Topic Starter

Karen 2015-11-14T06:34:17+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[Insane]

00:06:830 (2) - I understand why you placed a circle, here, but I'm aware of the fact that there's nothing on the following patterns, like 00:12:047 - for example. i cant get your meaning here but if you mean this note is unnecessary here, i can't agree since it follows vocal and it's consistent with 00:17:264 (2) -
00:29:493 (6,7,1) - Linear flow? Are you sure you don't want to create any pattern here? You can make something similar to 00:54:275 (3,4,5) - looks better, in my opinion. K
01:13:514 (6,7,1) - Such a weird and poor flow over here. Maybe you can try something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3930826 . K
[wcx's Hard]

01:05:036 (5,6,7) - Can be a bit too tricky considering this is a Hard difficulty, what about NC'ing (6) for some readability? fixed for him

@wafu
everything fixed in my part except negative offset, i understand your meaning but i use negative offset for avoiding a bug that sometimes all timing points and inherited points deviate from ticks for 1-2ms and cant be repaired, so, i only want to keep this.
Thanks for your explanation and your mp3/video!

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2015-11-17T14:58:44+00:00

I will be waiting for Wafu before rechecking!

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-11-21T13:33:39+00:00

Well, I rechecked the map, and there are still 2 things that bother me. I provided offset for video, which was not used and thus is not sync with original ending. I checked offset I provided in 25% speed, this one is significantly more off. Please use the one provided above. Also the grey color is still blending with white color in video. Call me for bubble when fixed.

Karen

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Topic Starter

Karen 2015-11-21T13:44:10+00:00

Wafu wrote:
Well, I rechecked the map, and there are still 2 things that bother me. I provided offset for video, which was not used and thus is not sync with original ending. I checked offset I provided in 25% speed, this one is significantly more off. Please use the one provided above. Also the grey color is still blending with white color in video. Call me for bubble when fixed.

the offset you provided is used for the video you provided in your mod post, but i.already told you i couldnt update with that video so i asked you provide a new one with a smaller size, then i used it, set a new video offset which i thought was right. I cant believe myself now so could you provide a offset which is right?
about combo color, i already made it darker and it has no problem in my opinion, so could you provide a proper combo color as well if possible?
thanks for the recheck.

Wafu

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Wafu 2015-11-21T22:30:21+00:00

Oh, sure. -609 video offset, color, let's say: 105,105,105 if you want to keep grey.

Wafu

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Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-11-22T14:40:36+00:00

We fixed video offset, combo color to not blend on default skin, removed pattern that would need to have too difficult rhythm, we also found out that offset does not cause bug anymore, so it does not have to be negative and does finally have corrected anacrusis. Seems fine.

Karen

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Karen 2015-11-22T14:42:41+00:00

Thanks

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2015-11-24T02:10:38+00:00

[wkyik]

00:21:133 (4) - Can you remove the clap on the repeat? It's a guitar sound, not a drum bass.
00:36:948 - You could map the triplets, there are 3 beats on the background music that could be perfectly mapped.
01:05:970 (3,4,1) - Are you sure about these jumps? I would decrease the distance between them, buuut... personal preference.

[Insane]

Love your hitsounds.

00:04:829 (3,4,5,6) - Can I suggest you a better flow-y pattern? http://puu.sh/lwxgu/4f56328440.jpg (6) is stacked with 00:06:296 (1) - by the way.
00:36:948 - Same as in wkyik.
01:04:666 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - I wouldn't do that if I were you and if you know what I mean. Basically using stacks on 1/4 the same way you are using them for 1/2.

[Alex]

00:44:123 (2,3) - Mapping them the same way while still having different sounds. What about making (3) a 1/2 slider without repeater?

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@Karen: Send me another Forum PM once you have replied to the mod!

Rizia

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Rizia 2015-11-24T13:23:48+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[wkyik]

00:21:133 (4) - Can you remove the clap on the repeat? It's a guitar sound, not a drum bass. ok
00:36:948 - You could map the triplets, there are 3 beats on the background music that could be perfectly mapped. karen said it's 1/12 and i hate 1/12
01:05:970 (3,4,1) - Are you sure about these jumps? I would decrease the distance between them, buuut... personal preference. sure

!

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MirinH

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MirinH 2015-11-26T04:18:17+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
[Alex]

00:44:123 (2,3) - Mapping them the same way while still having different sounds. What about making (3) a 1/2 slider without repeater? there are still 1/4 beats even though its very small,i rly dont like to skip instrument&drum beats,so ill keep ><

Karen

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Karen 2015-11-26T05:46:17+00:00

fixed the 1st one
the 2nd one same opinion with wkyik
the 3rd one, i cant get your meaning of 'the same way' here so no change, and i think my pattern here has no problem o.o, if you insist on your opinion, give me an example then i can consider it again.

and updated ~

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2015-12-02T06:26:21+00:00

I told you to PM me

Will recheck everything properly and qualify it tomorrow.

Karen

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Karen 2015-12-02T06:28:26+00:00