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Mazzerin was a magician! In the Lit-Fra match
Tebz188

Phoni-sama wrote:

Hey guys, I missed Austrian vs Taiwan game... Could anybody tell me how it ended?
Bass

Yauxo wrote:

Still waiting for O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U- JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A- E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA to be picked as a warmup

ADRENALINE IS PUMPING
Tofuklops

tbag188 wrote:

Phoni-sama wrote:

Hey guys, I missed Austrian vs Taiwan game... Could anybody tell me how it ended?
Woah, that's nice! Thanks very much :)
fartownik
rfandomization I hope you're there for out match at least

because this is horrible
Houtarou Oreki
How did Taiwan vs Portugal end?
a1l2d3r4e5d6

Houtarou Oreki wrote:

How did Taiwan vs Portugal end?
Taiwan took that from a tiebreak.
Ayako
I am proud to be a Singaporean
plaatinum

Ayako wrote:

I am proud to be a Singaporean
im gay
fartownik
Singapore put up a really good fight. Nice try.
[Japinha CPM22]
BRASIL HYPE
Tofuklops
Btw, where can I see the actual standing incl. the points?
Or am I just bad in searching? :c
tryaway

Phoni-sama wrote:

Btw, where can I see the actual standing incl. the points?
Or am I just bad in searching? :c
no OWC staff just too lazy to make page for that
Tofuklops

tryaway wrote:

Phoni-sama wrote:

Btw, where can I see the actual standing incl. the points?
Or am I just bad in searching? :c
no OWC staff just too lazy to make page for that
I think I have to wait until the end then or maybe it will be added later ^^
[TaikoTori]

Phoni-sama wrote:

Btw, where can I see the actual standing incl. the points?
Or am I just bad in searching? :c
You can atleast find the mp links and look for yourself here.
leepdesu

plaatinum wrote:

Ayako wrote:

I am proud to be a Singaporean
im gay
how to carry burden team
Railey2
you can also see the results here, together with a comment about each match. Lets hope he keeps that list up to date!
SuzumiyaBR
Austria At.gif Tw.gif Taiwan 10.00 (10am) 11.00 (11am) UTC +1 18.00 (6pm) UTC +8
New Zealand Nz.gif Fi.gif Finland 10.00 (10am) 22.00 (10pm) UTC +12 12.00 (12pm) UTC +2
Malaysia My.gif Au.gif Australia 10.00 (10am) 18.00 (6pm) UTC +8 20.00 (8pm) UTC +10
Philippines Ph.gif Jp.gif Japan 10.00 (10am) 18.00 (6pm) UTC +8 19.00 (7pm) UTC +9
Singapore Sg.gif De.gif Germany 11.00 (11am) 19.00 (7pm) UTC +8 12.00 (12pm) UTC +1
Thailand Th.gif Nl.gif Netherlands 11.00 (11am) 18.00 (6pm) UTC +7 12.00 (12pm) UTC +1
United Kingdom Gb.gif Cn.gif China 11.00 (11am) 11.00 (11am) UTC +0 19.00 (7pm) UTC +8
Lithuania Lt.gif Fr.gif France 12.00 (12pm) 14.00 (2pm) UTC +2 13.00 (1pm) UTC +1
Italy It.gif Hk.gif Hong Kong 12.00 (12pm) 13.00 (1pm) UTC +1 20.00 (8pm) UTC +8
Portugal Pt.gif Tw.gif Taiwan 12.00 (12pm) 12.00 (12pm) UTC +0 20.00 (8pm) UTC +8
Singapore Sg.gif Th.gif Thailand 13.00 (1pm) 21.00 (9pm) UTC +8 20.00 (8pm) UTC +7
Philippines Ph.gif Gb.gif United Kingdom 13.00 (1pm) 21.00 (9pm) UTC +8 13.00 (1pm) UTC +0
Argentina Ar.gif Kr.gif South Korea 13.00 (1pm) 10.00 (10am) UTC -3 22.00 (10pm) UTC +9

Results ???
Railey2
where to get the badges again
Froslass
So can people now actually believe me that Taiwan isn't a strong title contender?
fabriciorby

Blue Dragon wrote:

So can people now actually believe me that Taiwan isn't a strong title contender?
Where's your BRASIL signature
Endaris
I would love to know what people banned so far as the MP-links show the same picks all the way through.
Nwolf
from the streamed matches I could get this:





so assume that most matches have Yoshiwara and Clumsy Thoughts banned and quite a few of them with anesthesia and S.M.L. banned

EDIT: map pick/ban tables
chainpullz

Blue Dragon wrote:

So can people now actually believe me that Taiwan isn't a strong title contender?
Did people even think they were favored to begin with? I'm pretty sure any informed player would have considered Austria heavily favored to win that match.
Synchrostar
clumsy thoughts is fun ;-;
Gigo

chainpullz wrote:

Did people even think they were favored to begin with? I'm pretty sure any informed player would have considered Austria heavily favored to win that match.
Oh really? Since you seem to be informed enough, can you enlighten me on why they were considered the stronger team in this match?
Endaris
People still banning the hell out of Yoshiwara Lament, looks like buny wasn't the only one hating the pick.
SuzumiyaBR
WWW in room of Portugal VS Austria
WWW : Hi
Portugal : New Portugal ace
Portugal : Polonia help us


R.I.P Portugal
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Karthy
With the stream being cut off every 10 minutes and the constant "client lag", mixed with the fact that there's nowhere else (as far as i'm aware) to keep up to date on the world cup, I'm finding it difficult to enjoy. Anyone know if this is going to be fixed further into the tournament? I just wanna watch me some circles ;_;
SuzumiyaBR
Polônia 3x0 Canada
Polônia ( without Rafis and WWW ) 4x0 Canada

Austria 4x1 Portugal
chainpullz

Gigo wrote:

chainpullz wrote:

Did people even think they were favored to begin with? I'm pretty sure any informed player would have considered Austria heavily favored to win that match.
Oh really? Since you seem to be informed enough, can you enlighten me on why they were considered the stronger team in this match?
spoilers I guess
Omgforz and Alumetorz are two of the most consistent players in the world when it comes to tournaments. That's not even mentioning the other top players that round out Austria's roster. When Omgforz is your lowest ranked player that's a good indication that your team is deserving of a top seed.

Taiwan on the other hand struggles to field even 4 consistent players especially with Small K not even competing in today's match against Austria. Even if its the case that Hvick was the most skilled player in that match, tournaments aren't won off sheer skill alone. With the difficulty of the map pool consistency is the only factor that really matters and having Hvick on your team gives you no more advantage than having Omgforz on your team in that department.

I'm not saying "clearly Austria was going to 4-0" but I certainly expected an Austria win with above 50% certainty. It was more of a "how many maps will it take for Austria to pull ahead?" question to me.
Endaris

SuzumiyaBR wrote:

...
cool people put results into spoilers
fartownik
Was there even a match where Clumsy Thoughts wasn't banned?
Karuta-_old_1

Karthy wrote:

With the stream being cut off every 10 minutes and the constant "client lag", mixed with the fact that there's nowhere else (as far as i'm aware) to keep up to date on the world cup, I'm finding it difficult to enjoy. Anyone know if this is going to be fixed further into the tournament? I just wanna watch me some circles ;_;
I doubt it is anything like client lag, it is either a bug or a latency issue with bancho which can't be fixed (not saying it is impossible but you know?)
(maybe someone can share their settings for the OBS to improve the quality a bit but that's all I could think of)

interesting to see how some matches become so different with score V2, like Taiwan vs Austria, really convincing victory there

For non-streamed matches I could only hold on to the mp links
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... pw/pubhtml
SuzumiyaBR

Endaris wrote:

SuzumiyaBR wrote:

...
cool people put results into spoilers

The results should be on the first page of that topic
Endaris

fartownik wrote:

Was there even a match where Clumsy Thoughts wasn't banned?
Yep, at least 2 times on the stream(austria vs taiwan and right now argentina vs finland). Yoshiwara Lament at 100% banrate on stream still.

The results should be on the first page of that topic
No, they're on the wiki page.
SuzumiyaBR

Endaris wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Was there even a match where Clumsy Thoughts wasn't banned?
Yep, at least 2 times on the stream(austria vs taiwan and right now argentina vs finland). Yoshiwara Lament at 100% banrate on stream still.

The results should be on the first page of that topic
No, they're on the wiki page.

Where
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/OWC_2015

??????????????

Should upgrade. so the match ended
chainpullz
Is there even much advantage to banning Clumsy Thought. The map is basically mutually assured destruction. I mean, if you are confident enough that you will beat the other team on every other map, losing once isn't that big of a deal imo. It seems like a map that only a lower seed team would pick knowing they have no chance to beat the high seeded team on non-gimmick maps so might as well try to roll a 6.
Karuta-_old_1
Where
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/OWC_2015

Should upgrade update. so the match ended

truthfully I couldn't find it either, they probably got the result sheet from one of the refs like always
Endaris
You can get the results on stream by typing !results
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... pw/pubhtml
Pyrka

Endaris wrote:

You can get the results on stream by typing !results
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... pw/pubhtml
I just wanted to post it, damn!
Minhtam
Does anybody have a group table? I made an unofficial one just in case Marcin is behind on the official one.

(I stress unofficial because the 4th tiebreaker I used is NOT the tiebreaker that will be used)

http://challonge.com/15owcShadow
Synchrostar
we got our clumsy thoughts

im happy now
fartownik
First Clumsy Thoughts ever - only 2 people survive the map XD
juutalainen420
1 player at Finland team got dc`ed and still Argentina got point? How does this tournament works?
Endaris

jebany-smurf wrote:

1 player at Finland team got dc`ed and still Argentina got point? How does this tournament works?
Read the rules.
chainpullz

jebany-smurf wrote:

1 player at Finland team got dc`ed and still Argentina got point? How does this tournament works?
Unplugging your router is not cause for a map to be thrown out. Since there's no way to differentiate between unplugging your router and any other sort of disconnect the same applies for all disconnects.
fartownik
Yeah mods, censor the BibleThump emote so people can't have fun! Great idea.
SuzumiyaBR

Minhtam wrote:

Does anybody have a group table? I made an unofficial one just in case Marcin is behind on the official one.

(I stress unofficial because the 4th tiebreaker I used is NOT the tiebreaker that will be used)

http://challonge.com/15owcShadow

Update this

Argentina 3x4
Ukraine 4x1
Marcin

Minhtam wrote:

Does anybody have a group table? I made an unofficial one just in case Marcin is behind on the official one.

(I stress unofficial because the 4th tiebreaker I used is NOT the tiebreaker that will be used)

http://challonge.com/15owcShadow
It will be up tomorrow, sorry for delay.
SuzumiyaBR
Game Name: OWC 2015: (Sweden) vs (Austria) (#120,150,054)
Duration: 05:22:52 - 05:27:29
Game Mode: osu! (Team VS)
Scoring Mode: Highest 3
Slot Score Acc User Combo 300s 100s 50s Miss
1 1,004,597 99.92% Xytox 1230 840 1 0 0

LOOOOL

error
firedigger
The profile banners are so cool, but I can't gift them :(
Gigo

chainpullz wrote:

spoilers I guess
Omgforz and Alumetorz are two of the most consistent players in the world when it comes to tournaments. That's not even mentioning the other top players that round out Austria's roster. When Omgforz is your lowest ranked player that's a good indication that your team is deserving of a top seed.

Taiwan on the other hand struggles to field even 4 consistent players especially with Small K not even competing in today's match against Austria. Even if its the case that Hvick was the most skilled player in that match, tournaments aren't won off sheer skill alone. With the difficulty of the map pool consistency is the only factor that really matters and having Hvick on your team gives you no more advantage than having Omgforz on your team in that department.

I'm not saying "clearly Austria was going to 4-0" but I certainly expected an Austria win with above 50% certainty. It was more of a "how many maps will it take for Austria to pull ahead?" question to me.
Ok, thanks for the explanation. So, do you think the result would have been different if Small K had played? Unfortunately I was not home, so I couldn't watch the match (as well as most of the other matches today).
chainpullz

Gigo wrote:

chainpullz wrote:

spoilers I guess
Omgforz and Alumetorz are two of the most consistent players in the world when it comes to tournaments. That's not even mentioning the other top players that round out Austria's roster. When Omgforz is your lowest ranked player that's a good indication that your team is deserving of a top seed.

Taiwan on the other hand struggles to field even 4 consistent players especially with Small K not even competing in today's match against Austria. Even if its the case that Hvick was the most skilled player in that match, tournaments aren't won off sheer skill alone. With the difficulty of the map pool consistency is the only factor that really matters and having Hvick on your team gives you no more advantage than having Omgforz on your team in that department.

I'm not saying "clearly Austria was going to 4-0" but I certainly expected an Austria win with above 50% certainty. It was more of a "how many maps will it take for Austria to pull ahead?" question to me.
Ok, thanks for the explanation. So, do you think the result would have been different if Small K had played? Unfortunately I was not home, so I couldn't watch the match (as well as most of the other matches today).
because people apparently care about spoilers
I think it would have been a lot closer. Taiwan's two secondary players were very underwhelming and you can't exactly put your whole team on your back to carry them across the finish line like one can in other games. Even with Small K I'd still give a slight edge to Austria. As it stands it looks like Sweden might even have a chance of knocking Taiwan out of the group stages if Taiwan isn't able to shore up their weaker players.
In the end it takes 4 consistent players to be a top contender at OWC especially when you eventually will have to face off against teams like Poland.
JOEMOMO
I feel Austria can be the underdogs. Fedora and Alum preformed well earlier.

My nation, the United Kingdom, have had a mixed day firstly losing to the stronger team China who were meant to win. The second game was against the Philippines which we won comfortably which brings a bit of hope.
Tomorrow the UK have Japan which might be tricky, depends on how Japan preform.

If we proceed out of the groups, I don't think we could go any further as other teams are just too good.
MouseEasy
gj team
DarkCaraio
BRAZIL HYPE!!!11!1!111!!! :) :)
SuzumiyaBR

Endaris wrote:

You can get the results on stream by typing !results
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... pw/pubhtml

Thanks man
Endaris
And now we see that Yoshiwara Lament is one of the maps that can rip teams apart, not just by "random misses" but by a big discrepancy in accuracy and/or reading that shows big.
Love how the US team played this out even though I'm crossing my fingers for Box.
CXu
Every map in the mappool can be used strategically because one team excels at some specific aspect of the game over the other team. It's nothing new for OWC and it's a part of why we can pick maps in the first place (I mean, if every map tested the same things, why even have picks)
Endaris
True but as stated by many participating players the maps for group stage are rather easy and it's more about who chokes than anything else. Many maps were very close and there were barely any confidence picks where one team completely dominated a map. Found that very convincing by the USA team.
chainpullz

Endaris wrote:

True but as stated by many participating players the maps for group stage are rather easy and it's more about who chokes than anything else. Many maps were very close and there were barely any confidence picks where one team completely dominated a map. Found that very convincing by the USA team.
There was also a patch the night before group stages that's causing a number of players to be dropping frames and they aren't allowed to play on the fallback.
Icyteru
RIP Aus
CXu

Endaris wrote:

True but as stated by many participating players the maps for group stage are rather easy and it's more about who chokes than anything else. Many maps were very close and there were barely any confidence picks where one team completely dominated a map. Found that very convincing by the USA team.
Well yeah, like, don't choke.

chainpullz wrote:

There was also a patch the night before group stages that's causing a number of players to be dropping frames and they aren't allowed to play on the fallback.
The non-fallback stable version seems to not drop frames for me.
Topic Starter
Loctav

chainpullz wrote:

Endaris wrote:

True but as stated by many participating players the maps for group stage are rather easy and it's more about who chokes than anything else. Many maps were very close and there were barely any confidence picks where one team completely dominated a map. Found that very convincing by the USA team.
There was also a patch the night before group stages that's causing a number of players to be dropping frames and they aren't allowed to play on the fallback.

Can you please specify this more and open a tech support thread on the Help board about it? This helps waaaaay more (unless it does exist already)
Aloha

Icyteru wrote:

RIP Aus
:(
shARPII
Good matches today, hope we can get even better tomorrow!
Now I'm off because I really need to sleep ;A;

/me rolls and dies
shortpotato


group E best matches
Chaoslitz


This wasn't planned tho

M I N G 3 0 1 2
buny
a shame we didn't make it out of groups (expected), gl to the rest of the teams


quite impressed on the management of the tournament, nearly no delay in the matches we played and didn't experience any problems
Athrun

Chaoslitz wrote:



This wasn't planned tho

M I N G 3 0 1 2
Chao chan pls
jseph_1121

Loctav wrote:


Wiki | Livestream


Welcome to the osu! World Cup 2015 Discussion Thread.
Here you can discuss everything related to the biggest worldwide osu! tournament.
How do I join the Tournament?? :x :x
hallowatcher
Ez for Germany
Electoz
THAILAND HYPE !!
Rori Vidi Veni
This informative post will be deleted anyway, just move along
Athrun
Interesting.

Japan is out of group stage :O
Hong Kong won 1 lost 1, hope that they can beat their final opponent!
Australia is also out as well
Raiea
Australia did put up a great fight though
SuzumiyaBR
Rip Japan
Athrun
And Hong Kong made it! REJOICE!!!!!!!!!!
Karuta-_old_1
Germany and Thailand are so close each of them lost at least one match

I don't know which team to hype for

I am not sure about how the matches are hosted but can we not rely so much on the mp links, if possible send a referee in the room instead and observe the match and take a screenshot in-game, I don't like a match ruined because of "dc"
g
kuur0

Karuta- wrote:

Germany and Thailand are so close each of them lost at least one match

I don't know which team to hype for

I am not sure about how the matches are hosted but can we not rely too much on the mp links, if possible send a referee in the room instead and observe the match and take a screenshot in-game, I don't like a match ruined because of "dc"
g
Second this, referees should be having the scoreboard (on the left hand side and the right hand side) on the whole time and keeping track of if any of the players disconnected.

If the player is still there on the scoreboard after the map ends, while the mp link showed that the player disconnected for whatever reason, then results should still be determined right there since the referee should know who won the map at the end.

p.s. that Hong Kong vs France shenanigans during Bondage Anemonation map IIRC.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Bancho outputs all scores upon map end. Even disconnect-after-map-end players, that sometimes do not show up on the MP link, are shown there and can be calculated properly
fartownik
Can we get some up-to-date standings on the groups?

And please update the Wiki page, especially with the link to the results page. Some links are really hard to find if you're not on the stream.
Ayako
proud that sg managed to win 2 songs against netherlands :3
Karuta-_old_1

Loctav wrote:

Bancho outputs all scores upon map end. Even disconnect-after-map-end players, that sometimes do not show up on the MP link, are shown there and can be calculated properly
So you are saying Chaoslitz's score didn't count because it didn't "submit"?

forget what I said then
SuzumiyaBR
Sala do BR criada , lets go streamers
invidia_old

fartownik wrote:

Can we get some up-to-date standings on the groups?

And please update the Wiki page, especially with the link to the results page. Some links are really hard to find if you're not on the stream.
Group A
Mexico - record 0-2 - differential -7
Malaysia - record 2-1 - differential +4
Australia - record 1-2 - differential -3
United States - record 2-0 - differential +6

United States and Malaysia move on, seeding to be decided.

Group B
Italy - record 0-1 - differential -3
Lithuania - record 0-2 - differential -5
Hong Kong - record 2-1 - differential +3
France - record 2-0 - differential +5

Lithuania out.

Group C
Ukraine - record 1-1 - differential -1
Latvia - record 0-1 - differential -3
Canada - record 0-1 - differential -4
Poland - record 2-0 - differential +8

Poland moves on (seed not confirmed technically).

Group D
Philippines - record 0-3 - differential -10
Japan - record 1-2 - differential -4
United Kingdom - record 2-1 - differential +5
China - record 3-0 - differential +9

China (1st seed) and United Kingdom (second seed) move on.

Group E
New Zealand - record 1-2 - differential 0
Argentina - record 0-3 - differential -9
Finland - record 2-1 - differential -1
South Korea - record 3-0 - differential +10

South Korea (1st seed) and Finland (second seed) move on.

Group F
Greece - record 0-1 - differential -4
Norway - record 0-1 - differential -2
Brazil - record 1-0 - differential +2
Russian Federation - record 1-0 - differential +4

Nothing decided.

Group G
Singapore - record 0-3 - differential -7
Thailand - record 2-1 - differential +2
Netherlands - record 2-0 - differential +5
Germany - record 1-1 - differential 0

Singapore out.
Possibilities:
Netherlands wins: Netherlands and Thailand in
Germany wins 4-2 or 4-3: Netherlands and Thailand in
Germany wins 4-1: Germany in other spot depends on score
Germany wins 4-0: Germany and Thailand in

Group H
Portugal - record 1-2 - differential -3
Sweden - record 0-3 - differential -6
Austria - record 3-0 - differential +8
Taiwan - record 2-1 - differential +1

Austria (1st seed) and Taiwan (second seed) move on.


Sorry for any mistakes, I did this quickly. I don't know if the tournament is using placement in groups for round of 16.
fartownik
Neat. Thanks.
SuzumiyaBR
Rip Greece , Boa galera, Brasil nas eliminatórias
fartownik

Clumsy Thoughts in a nutshell
Tebz188

fartownik wrote:


Clumsy Thoughts in a nutshell
stream said the whole time that Russia was winning XD
buny

tbag188 wrote:

fartownik wrote:


Clumsy Thoughts in a nutshell
stream said the whole time that Russia was winning XD
index played extraordinarily well that match
CXu
-PC please.
SuzumiyaBR
Game of Fail : 1st Game >>Lativia 1 player and Canda 2 players,,, Lativia win
- Sorveig
Go Brazil~ :oops:
Tebz188
Spoiler
Dat 4-0 by Germany against Netherlands :O
Neliel
Dude after that Hana Tsubomi my hands were so fking shaking. Dude holy shit D:
ToGlette
Thailand > Germany > Netherlands > Thailand ...

What the...
Tebz188

ToGlette wrote:

Thailand > Germany > Netherlands > Thailand ...

What the...
tell me about it
chainpullz
Thailand is in off tiebreakers then?
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