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timing

Snaggletooth wrote:

Count yourself lucky that I'm sick.

  1. Offset comes in a little too late. 22.185 sounds pretty solid to me.

    • I rechecked the Timing since there's been a small discussion about this between Bonsai and phaZ. I agree with
      Bonsai, that the right Offset is 22.183, but that offset goes smoothly through the entire song. The only
      discrepancy that I can find would be about 2-4ms diffrence in the Kiai. If that is what Bonsai is referring to,
      then the only thing to catch that is with a second timing point, however, I found that increasing the BPM by
      ,005 takes care of this very well while still hitting the beats prior to kiai. Those are my two cents on this topic.
      You can feel free, obviously, to not apply it.

Bonsai wrote:

@Timing: We discovered that for the part before Kiai it is indeed to high and 22.185 or even less is probably right for that part, but it seems to change exactly at the first beat of the Kiai, maybe bc of different attack points or whatever, where 01:06:075 is imo the right offset (which is the original timing -1 hehe). Dunno what phaZ is doing in the end tho ^^
doing things like bonsai at the end
Stjpa
[General?]

• You have to change the combo colours. Proof


[ Moderate ]

Click
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks'

• Change AR to 5 and HP to 3.5.

• 00:42:759 (3) - I dislike this slidershape.

• 01:12:250 (2,3) - Should this be a blanket? Doesn't looke like one, if so.

• 01:28:364 (3,4) - Maybe just start like in the first Kiai?

• 01:34:878 (3) - Sounds very weird honestly.

• 01:40:364 (3,1) - Just no... :<

• 01:44:821 (2,3) - Make a blanket out of it and change (3) somehow. It sounds kinda weird too. You shouldn't variate THAT much in terms of patterns.


[ Advanced ]

Click
• It's not a have to, but it wouldn't be too bad if every diff would start at the same point.

• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks'

• 00:24:759 (5,1) - This is'nt a perfect blanket. Can't unsee this, sorry. c;

• 01:25:621 (2,4) - CTRL + G (by that I mean change the sliderhead to the other side, not switching those 2 sliders)

• 01:47:564 (2,4) - ^


[ Bonsai's Hyper ]

Click
• This is an easier Insane, not a Hyper. Change the diffname please.

• Untick 'Widescreen Support' and 'Letterbox during breaks'

• 00:23:902 (1,2) - Shouldn't it be a "triplet" due the sound? I mean you made one 00:25:273 (1,2,5,6,1) - here, 00:26:988 (3,4,5) - and here etc. And if I'm not mistaken it's literally the same sound / rhythm or however you would call it.

• 00:25:273 (1,2) - ^

• 00:31:615 (5) - Snap it.

• 00:42:759 (1) - Delete this circle and put the start of the spinner here.

• 01:09:678 (6,7) - I'd switch (6) and (7) and put (7) more to the left. If you mapped with distance snap comletely, don't move it. But consider switching these 2 circles. Just flows better because of the slidershape afterwards.

Welp, didn't see it's not finished yet...


[ Insane ]

Click
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks'

• Remove these _ from drum_and_bass in the tags.

• You know what I said about the start in your other diffs. Consider it, please. c:

• 00:30:931 (3) - Move it somewhere else. It's barely readable.

• 00:54:759 (4) - CTRL + G maybe?

• 01:01:616 (7) - I would use a NC here already instead of 01:01:788 (1) - here because you changed there the jumppattern. (Best explanation ever...)

• 01:07:792 (2,3,4) - Missing hitsound?

• 01:19:621 (3) - Move 3 a bit to the left. Flows better imo.

• 01:42:764 (6,7) - Switch these. Also for a better flow.

• Every diff HAS TO end at the same point. Proof



GD

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Topic Starter
phaZ
where is my "quote-button" on the old design

Stjpa wrote:

[General?]

• You have to change the combo colours. Proof hu? actually dont think so. slightly changed the BG's colour
[ Moderate ]

Click
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks' this..
• Change AR to 5 and HP to 3.5. well okay
• 00:42:759 (3) - I dislike this slidershape. more curvy now
• 01:12:250 (2,3) - Should this be a blanket? Doesn't looke like one, if so. it is D: http://puu.sh/kK4zm/ea528afa4b.jpg (i know that it does not apply for the slider-slide but that is on purpose
• 01:28:364 (3,4) - Maybe just start like in the first Kiai? second kiai should be less intense
• 01:34:878 (3) - Sounds very weird honestly. naaaah^^. cant decide by now sry <.<
• 01:40:364 (3,1) - Just no... :< just yeah <:

• 01:44:821 (2,3) - Make a blanket out of it and change (3) somehow. It sounds kinda weird too. You shouldn't variate THAT much in terms of patternshttps://i.ppy.sh/c3b715fe6618d60c265b6c75fe3bc8604bc35974/68747470733a2f2f6f73752e7070792e73682f696d616765732f686172642e706e67[/img:1337] Advanced ]
Click
• It's not a have to, but it wouldn't be too bad if every diff would start at the same point. i get it, but it feels kinda odd to map the first 4 notes also in the lower diffs, because ds should be somewhat equally to the tranquillity which would then just fuck with newbies minds

• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks' ...

• 00:24:759 (5,1) - This is'nt a perfect blanket. Can't unsee this, sorry. c; move it by like 1x and 1y or sth. not that i care^^

• 01:25:621 (2,4) - CTRL + G (by that I mean change the sliderhead to the other side, not switching those 2 sliders) no, i like it the way it is~

• 01:47:564 (2,4) - ^^


[ Bonsai's Hyper ]

Click
• This is an easier Insane, not a Hyper. Change the diffname please. ill change it later tho for a certain reason

• Untick 'Widescreen Support' and 'Letterbox during breaks'

• 00:23:902 (1,2) - Shouldn't it be a "triplet" due the sound? I mean you made one 00:25:273 (1,2,5,6,1) - here, 00:26:988 (3,4,5) - and here etc. And if I'm not mistaken it's literally the same sound / rhythm or however you would call it.

• 00:25:273 (1,2) - ^

• 00:31:615 (5) - Snap it.

• 00:42:759 (1) - Delete this circle and put the start of the spinner here.

• 01:09:678 (6,7) - I'd switch (6) and (7) and put (7) more to the left. If you mapped with distance snap comletely, don't move it. But consider switching these 2 circles. Just flows better because of the slidershape afterwards.

Welp, didn't see it's not finished yet...


[ Insane ]

Click
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks' .

• Remove these _ from drum_and_bass in the tags. removed the tag. who even searches like that..

• You know what I said about the start in your other diffs. Consider it, please. c:

• 00:30:931 (3) - Move it somewhere else. It's barely readable. never thought of that o.o i increased ar by 0.1 instead

• 00:54:759 (4) - CTRL + G maybe? part of the pattern. the sv is also low enough that you dont atually have to follow the slider so it doesnt affect the flow imo

• 01:01:616 (7) - I would use a NC here already instead of 01:01:788 (1) - here because you changed there the jumppattern. (Best explanation ever...) the current NC is nessecary (ask me why if you really want to know). i already considered adding another NC but that looks weird imo. i also dont see a good pattern where i can keep the jump. so if noone else complains about it i propably wont think about changing this

• 01:07:792 (2,3,4) - Missing hitsound? no :o ?

• 01:19:621 (3) - Move 3 a bit to the left. Flows better imo. fixed, but differently

• 01:42:764 (6,7) - Switch these. Also for a better flow. well okay... cant feel any difference

• Every diff HAS TO end at the same point. Proof nooooooo.. but thanks for checking that
thanks for mod and GD <3


GD


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thank you!
Bonsai

Stjpa wrote:

[ Bonsai's Hyper ]

Click
• This is an easier Insane, not a Hyper. Change the diffname please. whatever phaZ wants ^^

• Untick 'Widescreen Support' and 'Letterbox during breaks' fixed

• 00:23:902 (1,2) - Shouldn't it be a "triplet" due the sound? I mean you made one 00:25:273 (1,2,5,6,1) - here, 00:26:988 (3,4,5) - and here etc. And if I'm not mistaken it's literally the same sound / rhythm or however you would call it. You're not mistaken, but if I were to map all of those sounds as triplets it would be kinda full of 1/4s since they regularly occur twice every measure, so I'm just ignoring most of them and emphasizing other things instead.

• 00:25:273 (1,2) - ^

• 00:31:615 (5) - Snap it. oh snap

• 00:42:759 (1) - Delete this circle and put the start of the spinner here. uh good idea ^^

• 01:09:678 (6,7) - I'd switch (6) and (7) and put (7) more to the left. If you mapped with distance snap comletely, don't move it. But consider switching these 2 circles. Just flows better because of the slidershape afterwards. I don't think the big angle from (5) to (6) plays well, also it shouldn't affect actual flow in gameplay at all since the next two notes are stacked lol. (maybe I changed that after sending it to phaZ, dunno)

Welp, didn't see it's not finished yet...
Thanks! Didn't see that this set is complete now, sorry for not having finished my diff yet, will do it this weekend, sorry! D:
Mercurial
Hey phaZ, are you in need of a mod or something?

Just call me back.
RyoKazuka


I'd love to mod this

give me time ;)

Kyle Y
#modding queue
You wrote Moderate and Hard in my modding queue, however I can't find a diff called "Hard".
Therefore I just mod a Easy diff as the supplement.

[Easy]
00:25:616 (2,4) - a poor overlapping. For new player, poor overlapping may delay their reaction time. please avoid overlapping.
00:27:673 (1,2) - it is not a good looking for me, I guess the reason is about it is almost overlapping. maybe you can try this: (optional)
00:29:045 - Why suddent break here? I think it is better map it because the music didn't stop, and also this note is not for emphasizing anything.
00:31:616 (2) - slider end at 00:32:130 - . becasue there is the beat sound at here, which is stronger than 00:32:302 - . Stronger beat is easier to follow for new player.
00:33:159 - this beat is for the new part of music, maybe mapping this is better?
00:37:273 (1,2,3,4) - hitting circles is much harder than slider for new players, becasue the need to click more. I suggest changing into slider.
00:44:130 - I don;t know what a break here. This part is not the calm part, I cannot think of a reason that break is suitable.
01:03:330 - this 1/4 sound.... also better not to skip it. maybe could I know why you skip it? 01:04:707 (1,2,3,4) - this is more calm than 01:05:049 (2,3,4) - , if you map that 4 circles, then why not this part?
01:17:735 (2,4) - misleading notes. New players just click when they see a circle/slider. there is a risk that they will mis-read this as 2→4
01:25:278 (5) - nc (you are using 8 beats one nc right? then keep it constant.)
01:25:278 - I don't like why you like to break.... there is STRONG beat sounds.
01:28:021 (1) - a little position suggestion for this slider, optional:
SPOILER
the notes recently is not a straight line. I don't know if you intend to do it or not.
but then, I think either the pattern and flowing, it is better to make a curve slider (black lines) to form a better flowing (red line)
http://puu.sh/kL33H/f2bbbd1878.jpg
01:41:049 (4,1) - I just a little bit worry about this flowing, maybe sth like this? optional
SPOILER
you no need to worry about the mis-read problem here, becasue they are in different color.
new player click also based on the color.
01:44:821 (2) - I also suggest curve slider for better flowing
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason.
01:47:221 - it is kiai time right? then why you leave it blanket? in fact breaking problem I have asked you several time, please think twice on it.

[Moderate]
00:22:188 (1) - first blanket. but I prefer this becasue blanket just like a kind of breaking flowing for me. just like the red line in the figure. however, if it is in the middle part, it can form a oval flow. (fig 1) therefore I suggest using this flowing (fig 2)
00:46:873 - I just think this is the new sentence of the song, therefore I think clickable things here is better. Also, you missed this strong sound.
therefore, I suggest the whole sentence is mapped like this: (00:46:873 - )


00:54:245 - in fact I prefer starting the slider 00:54:416 - (1) at here. becasue missing strong beats seems weird.
maybe sth like this: (?)

01:22:535 (1,2) - blanket to obtain better look.
01:25:278 (1) - not suitable spinner, similar pattern 01:00:588 - you didn't use spinner also. You use spinner on the stream part. therefore I think better map with circles and sliders.
01:28:707 - same rhythm with 01:06:764 - why skipping beats this time?
01:28:021 (2) - missing ncs.
01:29:735 - also missing strong beats, just like 01:07:792 - beat, better keep it the same, at least the beats positing.
01:34:878 (3) - missing strong beats at 01:35:221 - , in fact it is the ssame melody as 01:28:021 - .
01:40:707 - ^ also the same.
01:40:364 (3,1) - poor overlapping, the slider (3) is covering the number (I don't know if same situation happen in your computer), but at least the head of the circle. better avoid it.
01:46:192 - again.
01:52:706 (4) - nc
01:58:192 - missing beats, I suggest slider end at here, then the next circle 01:58:364 - can be emphasis a little bit.

Thanks, hope you like my modding.
Stjpa
Kyle Y

Kyle Y wrote:

#modding queue
You wrote Moderate and Hard in my modding queue, however I can't find a diff called "Hard".
Therefore I just mod a Easy diff as the supplement.

[Easy]
00:25:616 (2,4) - a poor overlapping. For new player, poor overlapping may delay their reaction time. please avoid overlapping. Fixed

00:27:673 (1,2) - it is not a good looking for me, I guess the reason is about it is almost overlapping. maybe you can try this: (optional) Fixed

00:29:045 - Why suddent break here? I think it is better map it because the music didn't stop, and also this note is not for emphasizing anything. Fixed

00:31:616 (2) - slider end at 00:32:130 - . becasue there is the beat sound at here, which is stronger than 00:32:302 - . Stronger beat is easier to follow for new player. Fixed

00:33:159 - this beat is for the new part of music, maybe mapping this is better? I tried

00:37:273 (1,2,3,4) - hitting circles is much harder than slider for new players, becasue the need to click more. I suggest changing into slider. Fixed

00:44:130 - I don;t know what a break here. This part is not the calm part, I cannot think of a reason that break is suitable. It's imo too weird to map. Gonna leave it like it is right now.

01:03:330 - this 1/4 sound.... also better not to skip it. maybe could I know why you skip it? 01:04:707 (1,2,3,4) - this is more calm than 01:05:049 (2,3,4) - , if you map that 4 circles, then why not this part? Because new players need to rest sometimes. I know that this map isn't long at all, but little breaks don't hurt. These 4 circles I mapped build everything after it up. Dunno how to describe it, but it just fits well imo.

01:17:735 (2,4) - misleading notes. New players just click when they see a circle/slider. there is a risk that they will mis-read this as 2→4 Fixed

01:25:278 (5) - nc (you are using 8 beats one nc right? then keep it constant.) My bad. Fixed

01:25:278 - I don't like why you like to break.... there is STRONG beat sounds. Fixed it, shorter break now

01:28:021 (1) - a little position suggestion for this slider, optional:
the notes recently is not a straight line. I don't know if you intend to do it or not.
but then, I think either the pattern and flowing, it is better to make a curve slider (black lines) to form a better flowing (red line) Fixed it a little bit different

01:41:049 (4,1) - I just a little bit worry about this flowing, maybe sth like this? optional
you no need to worry about the mis-read problem here, becasue they are in different color.
new player click also based on the color. I straightened (4) a little bit, flow should be ok then. Worried about it too, but didn't think too much about it actually.

01:44:821 (2) - I also suggest curve slider for better flowing Yup.

01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason. I put a spinner there.
01:47:221 - it is kiai time right? then why you leave it blanket? in fact breaking problem I have asked you several time, please think twice on it.
^

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RyoKazuka


post for kd

irc mod about

Easy
Advanced
quick review on Insane

Topic Starter
phaZ
Kyle Y

Kyle Y wrote:

#modding queue
You wrote Moderate and Hard in my modding queue, however I can't find a diff called "Hard". diff names changed a few times meanwhile >.<
Therefore I just mod a Easy diff as the supplement.


[Moderate]
00:22:188 (1) - first blanket. but I prefer this becasue blanket just like a kind of breaking flowing for me. just like the red line in the figure. however, if it is in the middle part, it can form a oval flow. (fig 1) therefore I suggest using this flowing (fig 2) done
00:46:873 - I just think this is the new sentence of the song, therefore I think clickable things here is better. Also, you missed this strong sound.
therefore, I suggest the whole sentence is mapped like this: (00:46:873 - ) i konw that this slider end it put "wrong" but 00:50:816 (4,5) here its justified and since this is the same figure as 00:45:330 (5,6) i wanna keep it like that. this sentence 00:47:216 (1,2,3,4) - well... how do i explain - i made something different here


00:54:245 - in fact I prefer starting the slider 00:54:416 - (1) at here. becasue missing strong beats seems weird. fixed it but differently
maybe sth like this: (?)

01:22:535 (1,2) - blanket to obtain better look. done :<
01:25:278 (1) - not suitable spinner, similar pattern 01:00:588 - you didn't use spinner also. You use spinner on the stream part. therefore I think better map with circles and sliders. removed spinner
01:28:707 - same rhythm with 01:06:764 - why skipping beats this time? second kiai should be more calm imo, so just mapped based around the meoldy
01:28:021 (2) - missing ncs. fixed
01:29:735 - also missing strong beats, just like 01:07:792 - beat, better keep it the same, at least the beats positing. the meoldy isnt audible here
01:34:878 (3) - missing strong beats at 01:35:221 - , in fact it is the ssame melody as 01:28:021 - . same reason as ^. slider would become extremely long so i halfed the lenght and add a repeat.. orz the offbeat sounds cool imo D:
01:40:707 - ^ also the same.^
01:40:364 (3,1) - poor overlapping, the slider (3) is covering the number (I don't know if same situation happen in your computer), but at least the head of the circle. better avoid it. i made it so that the number is visible
01:46:192 - again. you can discuss with me ingame if you want to v:
01:52:706 (4) - nc no, as it isnt at 00:24:930 (5). easy/normal = fewer objects but not shorter combo
01:58:192 - missing beats, I suggest slider end at here, then the next circle 01:58:364 - can be emphasis a little bit. as it is missing 01:14:307 - 01:36:249 - 00:30:416 s:

Thanks, hope you like my modding.yes i do :D
thank you much!
Kyle Y

Stjpa wrote:

#modding queue
[Easy]
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason. I put a spinner there.
Um.... you can't place a spinner here, causing unrankable due to not enough recovery time.
For Easy diff, 1500ms recovery time is required, or I should say after the spinner, you should keep 4 beats empty.
Stjpa

Kyle Y wrote:

Stjpa wrote:

#modding queue
[Easy]
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason. I put a spinner there.
Um.... you can't place a spinner here, causing unrankable due to not enough recovery time.
For Easy diff, 1500ms recovery time is required, or I should say after the spinner, you should keep 4 beats empty.
You sure it's 1500ms? I just heard something with 750ms.
Mercurial

Stjpa wrote:

Kyle Y wrote:

Um.... you can't place a spinner here, causing unrankable due to not enough recovery time.
For Easy diff, 1500ms recovery time is required, or I should say after the spinner, you should keep 4 beats empty.
You sure it's 1500ms? I just heard something with 750ms.

That's more than enough recovery time, that spinner isn't unrankable at all.

Just letting you know, phaZ, I'm modding this mapset this weekend.
Bonsai
finished my diff \o/

diff in a box (get it???)
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Feint - Face Down (Cut Ver.).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 65648
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: None
StackLeniency: 0.6
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.599999

[Metadata]
Title:Face Down (Cut Ver.)
TitleUnicode:Face Down (Cut Ver.)
Artist:Feint
ArtistUnicode:Feint
Creator:phaZ
Version:Bonsai's Light Insane
Source:
Tags:liquid dnb
BeatmapID:801441
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[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:7.5
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Thought I'd have a lot to say about the Easy, but turns out I didn't update and most of it has been changed after previous mods ^^ some more things though:
  1. 00:33:502 (4) - NC here and at 00:36:245 (2) instead of 00:35:388 (1) ?
  2. 00:44:130 - I'd put a circle here since this is what all the previous sliders build up to, leaving it out feels kinda weird imo : \
  3. 01:03:330 - Leaving this build-up empty doesn't feel good to me - I'd put a 4/1-slider here and delete 01:05:049 (2,3) - Having these four circles in a row doesn't let (4) stand out anyways, which it should imo since it's way more important than the rest
  4. 01:25:278 (1,2,3) - These are four distinct, equally important beats, mapping the last two with a slider doesn't make sense imo
  5. 01:26:649 - I'd suggest a slider again ^^
  6. The Outro: First, make volume and hitsounding similar to the intro, rn it's way too loud lol, guess you forgot it ^^ Second, imo it would fit better to generally map even less beats, to give a stronger contrast to the rest of the map, to really make it feel like an outro instead of just another part of the map. And focus more on a certain rhythm. I'd do it something like this:

    Especially 01:59:049 (3) should be four circles since it's again four distinct, equally important beats, and ending on a tail doesn't feel as good as ending on a circle either imo
Stjpa

Bonsai wrote:

Thought I'd have a lot to say about the Easy, but turns out I didn't update and most of it has been changed after previous mods ^^ some more things though:
  1. 00:33:502 (4) - NC here and at 00:36:245 (2) instead of 00:35:388 (1) ? Jup.
  2. 00:44:130 - I'd put a circle here since this is what all the previous sliders build up to, leaving it out feels kinda weird imo :\ Aright!
  3. 01:03:330 - Leaving this build-up empty doesn't feel good to me - I'd put a 4/1-slider here and delete 01:05:049 (2,3) - Having these four circles in a row doesn't let (4) stand out anyways, which it should imo since it's way more important than the rest I tried
  4. 01:25:278 (1,2,3) - These are four distinct, equally important beats, mapping the last two with a slider doesn't make sense imo Two sliders then
  5. 01:26:649 - I'd suggest a slider again ^^ I tried
  6. The Outro: First, make volume and hitsounding similar to the intro, rn it's way too loud lol, guess you forgot it ^^ Second, imo it would fit better to generally map even less beats, to give a stronger contrast to the rest of the map, to really make it feel like an outro instead of just another part of the map. And focus more on a certain rhythm. I'd do it something like this:

    Especially 01:59:049 (3) should be four circles since it's again four distinct, equally important beats, and ending on a tail doesn't feel as good as ending on a circle either imo
Thanks for the suggestion. I found this part quite hard to map, had literally no ideas. ♥
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Battle
M4M from stjpa's queue xj0

[Easy]
00:23:216 (2,3) - Fix DS
00:23:559 (3,4) - ^
00:29:388 (4) - Point upwards to flow better maybe?
00:55:102 (1,2,3) - The way that it is now kinda feels like 1 leads more into 3 than 2, maybe make the flow of 1-2-3 more clear?\
01:07:107 (2,3) - DS fix
01:09:164 (2,3) - Maybe move to the same x axis? (x:208)
01:14:649 (2,3) - ^ (x:240)
01:19:792 (1,2,3) - Maybe make the path from 1-2-3 more clear, it may be confusing for new players since it kinda feels like there's no clear direction to go either to 3 or 2
01:21:849 (4,2) - No overlap pls
01:26:649 (1,1) - Adjust curve to fix overlap?
01:49:964 -

[Moderate]
Fix DS, you need consistent DS throughout the map, there is a change of DS in the kiai compared to the rest of the parts
00:24:759 (4,5) - Fix DS
00:28:873 (3,4,5) - You can't just break DS whenever you feel like it
00:31:616 (4,5) - ^
00:35:730 (3,4) - ^
01:52:535 (4,5) - ^
01:56:649 (3,4,5) - ^

[Insane]
00:25:274 (2,4) - Stack on slider end
00:26:645 (2,3,4) - ^
00:28:016 (2,3) - ^ If this is intentional, then fix 00:23:902 (6,7,8) -
00:32:131 (7,8,9) - ^ it's more of a consistency thing
00:36:245 (2,3,4) - ^
00:38:988 (2,3,4) - ^
00:40:359 (2,3,4) - ^ So it's like a lot of your things are unstacked but there are stacked ones so that's why I point it out

That's all from me, just try to keep things consistent and all o/
Stjpa

Battle wrote:

M4M from stjpa's queue xj0

[Easy]
00:23:216 (2,3) - Fix DS Fixed
00:23:559 (3,4) - ^ ^
00:29:388 (4) - Point upwards to flow better maybe? Fixed
00:55:102 (1,2,3) - The way that it is now kinda feels like 1 leads more into 3 than 2, maybe make the flow of 1-2-3 more clear?\ Fixed
01:07:107 (2,3) - DS fix Fixed
01:09:164 (2,3) - Maybe move to the same x axis? (x:208) No
01:14:649 (2,3) - ^ (x:240) No
01:19:792 (1,2,3) - Maybe make the path from 1-2-3 more clear, it may be confusing for new players since it kinda feels like there's no clear direction to go either to 3 or 2 Fixed
01:21:849 (4,2) - No overlap pls Dunno if there was one, but fixed
01:26:649 (1,1) - Adjust curve to fix overlap? ^
01:49:964 - Fixed

That's all from me, just try to keep things consistent and all o/
Will mod your map later or tomorrow. Thank you. <:

M4M op
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Topic Starter
phaZ
Battle

Battle wrote:

M4M from stjpa's queue xj0

[Easy]
00:23:216 (2,3) - Fix DS
00:23:559 (3,4) - ^
00:29:388 (4) - Point upwards to flow better maybe?
00:55:102 (1,2,3) - The way that it is now kinda feels like 1 leads more into 3 than 2, maybe make the flow of 1-2-3 more clear?\
01:07:107 (2,3) - DS fix
01:09:164 (2,3) - Maybe move to the same x axis? (x:208)
01:14:649 (2,3) - ^ (x:240)
01:19:792 (1,2,3) - Maybe make the path from 1-2-3 more clear, it may be confusing for new players since it kinda feels like there's no clear direction to go either to 3 or 2
01:21:849 (4,2) - No overlap pls
01:26:649 (1,1) - Adjust curve to fix overlap?
01:49:964 -

[Moderate]
Fix DS, you need consistent DS throughout the map, there is a change of DS in the kiai compared to the rest of the parts declined. the overall ds is so low, making it hard to indentify the rhythm. i use 3/2 sliders but but 2/2 gaps and sometimes just 1/2 gaps so it should be clear what rhythm comes next (and yeah noone ever will think it will be 1/4 gabs instead of 1/2). it works well, i asked a ton of newcomers now already
00:24:759 (4,5) - Fix DS
00:28:873 (3,4,5) - You can't just break DS whenever you feel like it
00:31:616 (4,5) - ^
00:35:730 (3,4) - ^
01:52:535 (4,5) - ^
01:56:649 (3,4,5) - ^

[Insane]
00:25:274 (2,4) - Stack on slider end not worth changing ;A; they arent stackable unless i recreate the circle and set them on top of the slider which would have its tail on a decimalvalue for x an y.
00:26:645 (2,3,4) - ^
00:28:016 (2,3) - ^ If this is intentional, then fix 00:23:902 (6,7,8) -
00:32:131 (7,8,9) - ^ it's more of a consistency thing
00:36:245 (2,3,4) - ^
00:38:988 (2,3,4) - ^
00:40:359 (2,3,4) - ^ So it's like a lot of your things are unstacked but there are stacked ones so that's why I point it out

That's all from me, just try to keep things consistent and all o/
Okoratu
Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?

afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
Secretpipe

Okoratu wrote:

Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?

afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title

I told yaaaaaaaa xD
RyoKazuka

Okoratu wrote:

Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?

afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
thank god this was mentioned
lit120
hello

[Stjpa's Easy]
  1. 00:24:588 (4,1) - not a neat blanket
  2. 01:11:221 (4,1) - ^
  3. 01:16:707 (4,1) - ^
  4. 01:29:049 (2,3) - ^, but not even a perfect one
  5. 01:48:592 (3) - last one should be finish
  6. 01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - i'd likely to set it into this or [img=http://puu.sh/kTbOP/84822baddb.jpg]this[/img]
[Insane]
  1. 00:19:446 (1,1) - accidentally set a slider whistle
  2. 00:45:331 (4,5) - not blanket enough
  3. 00:47:559 (3) - random slider whistle
  4. 00:49:274 (7) - how about muting the tail? it will do
lazy to do the other diff, sorry about that :(. GL!
Stjpa

-Hakurei- wrote:

hello

[Stjpa's Easy]
  1. 00:24:588 (4,1) - not a neat blanket Fixed...
  2. 01:11:221 (4,1) - ^ Fixed...
  3. 01:16:707 (4,1) - ^ Fixed...
  4. 01:29:049 (2,3) - ^, but not even a perfect one People will hate you for going full nazi
  5. 01:48:592 (3) - last one should be finish Added it.
  6. 01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - i'd likely to set it into this or this No.
lazy to do the other diff, sorry about that :(. GL! Yeah blanket mods are so much work
i blame phaZ for my broken blankets
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Topic Starter
phaZ
-Hakurei-

-Hakurei- wrote:

hello

[Insane]
  1. 00:19:446 (1,1) - accidentally set a slider whistle i dont quite get why o:
  2. 00:45:331 (4,5) - not blanket enough improved (hopefully enough)
  3. 00:47:559 (3) - random slider whistle removed on tail
  4. 00:49:274 (7) - how about muting the tail? it will do well ok
lazy to do the other diff, sorry about that :(. GL! thanks anyways c;
thanks for modding!

Okoratu wrote:

Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?

afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
it is my own cut. still i wanna have an actual reason why it is needed to remove it from the title and not sth like "x did it like that and he got it ranked".
my thoughts on this are that if someone searches for the song he should be aware (at least i wish i could be) that it is cut and not the full song. it has to stand in the title so it is visible in the beatmap listing since tags are not shown. i actually doubt that anyone whould search for the tag "cut (version)" anyway.. i mean why would i?
i would rather keep it like that unless it becomes a ranking criteria
Topic Starter
phaZ
quick easy mod from my side :v

diffculty lacks at least one spinner to prevent 10trillion rank #1's
00:33:502 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 00:22:188 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - both should have the same rhythms since it is a repetition. different objects for same things = not logic at all.
00:44:130 (2) - why no NC? this note does not belong to the slider
01:03:330 (1) - nc (every 4th measure)
01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - same objects on not quite the same melody. make variations! as example, 01:08:821 (1,2) - swap circle and repeat-slider because the music does same things at 01:08:821 to 01:09:421 and at 01:10:192 to 01:10:792
01:17:049 (1,2,3,4,5) - should be repeat-slider + circle + 2x slider simliar to 01:06:078 (1,2,3,4) - 01:11:564 (1,2,3,4)
01:19:792 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same
01:30:764 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:25:278 (1) - nc as you did at 01:47:221 (1)
01:26:649 (1) - nc?
01:28:021 (1,2,3,4) - 01:33:507 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same
01:38:992 (1,2,3,4) - 01:44:478 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - 01:36:249 (1,2,3,4,5) - make same rhythms?
01:48:592 (3) - make same rhythm (and combo) like at 01:26:649 (1)
01:50:821 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - use same rhythm like at the beginning!
Stjpa

phaZ wrote:

quick easy mod from my side :v

diffculty lacks at least one spinner to prevent 10trillion rank #1's Where?!
00:33:502 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 00:22:188 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - both should have the same rhythms since it is a repetition. different objects for same things = not logic at all. Not the same at all for me.
00:44:130 (2) - why no NC? this note does not belong to the slider Mb. Fixed.
01:03:330 (1) - nc (every 4th measure) Fixed.
01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - same objects on not quite the same melody. make variations! as example, 01:08:821 (1,2) - swap circle and repeat-slider because the music does same things at 01:08:821 to 01:09:421 and at 01:10:192 to 01:10:792 Fixed I guess.
01:17:049 (1,2,3,4,5) - should be repeat-slider + circle + 2x slider simliar to 01:06:078 (1,2,3,4) - 01:11:564 (1,2,3,4) Fixed.
01:19:792 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same Fixed.
01:30:764 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:25:278 (1) - nc as you did at 01:47:221 (1) Ye.
01:26:649 (1) - nc? Jup.
01:28:021 (1,2,3,4) - 01:33:507 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same Fixed.
01:38:992 (1,2,3,4) - 01:44:478 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - 01:36:249 (1,2,3,4,5) - make same rhythms? ^
01:48:592 (3) - make same rhythm (and combo) like at 01:26:649 (1) This shouldn't be a problem.
01:50:821 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - use same rhythm like at the beginning! Cmon, some variety at the end shouldn't be a problem at all. This map is already repetetive af, so I don't see a problem here.
don't forget to hitsound it
osu file format v14

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Tenderz
Tiny mod

[Easy]
00:29:388 (4,1,2) - Why doesn't this part have clicky hitsounds?

[Normal]
00:51:845 (6,1) - I think these don't connect so well, as the time between 6-1 is shorter than 1-2, makes the transition weird.
01:13:278 (3,4,1) - Kinda the same here, just doesn't work well.

[Insane]
00:18:074 (1) - Not sure if intended but this one has no sliderslide sound and on 00:20:817 (1) - it stops halfway
00:56:302 (6,1) - 00:59:045 (6,1) - The sudden jump break feels weird to me, either stack those, or flip move them sliders to the other side
00:45:845 (5) - Clap missing on slider head?

Very nice hitsounding here (●´ω`●)b
Topic Starter
phaZ
Tenderz

Tenderz wrote:

Tiny mod

[Easy]
00:29:388 (4,1,2) - Why doesn't this part have clicky hitsounds? forgot

[Normal]
00:51:845 (6,1) - I think these don't connect so well, as the time between 6-1 is shorter than 1-2, makes the transition weird. i think following the melody is more important than following non existent downbeats here^^
01:13:278 (3,4,1) - Kinda the same here, just doesn't work well.^

[Insane]
00:18:074 (1) - Not sure if intended but this one has no sliderslide sound and on 00:20:817 (1) - it stops halfway ahh someone noticed^^ nah this is intentional. im using a different sliderslide-sound when the deep noise is audible
00:56:302 (6,1) - 00:59:045 (6,1) - The sudden jump break feels weird to me, either stack those, or flip move them sliders to the other side hmm not nessecary imo. i will change that if it should be troublesome somewhen else tho
00:45:845 (5) - Clap missing on slider head? yes, thx!

Very nice hitsounding here (●´ω`●)b :3
thanks for mod!

i changed a timeline snapping issue in all diffs, too.
Sonnyc
General:

Inconsistent Volume Setting
  1. 00:22:188 - 01:06:078 - To avoid potential issues, please fix the inconsistent volume such as this.
Stjpa's Easy:

Combo Usage
  1. 00:38:645 (1,1,1,1) - Using every slider with a new combo lacked in forming a structure.
Rhythm
  1. 01:48:592 (1,1,2) - The rhythm transition between (1,1) was tricky for beginners to catch up. Removing 01:50:821 (1) is recommended.
Normal:

Spacing
  • Places where you could improve distance snap.
  1. 00:34:359 (2,3) -
  2. 00:41:388 (1,2,3) -
Inappropriate Pattern
  1. 00:53:559 (4,1) - This is forming a 1/2 jump which doesn't suit the overall difficulty.
Pattern Readability
  1. 01:40:364 (3,1) - Low readability due to slider path of (1) being covered by (3).
Bonsai's Insane:

Inaudible Hitsound
  1. 00:16:703 (1,2,3,4) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%.
Inappropriate Rhythm
  1. 01:00:759 - Your rhythm concept here was pretty much consistent since 00:55:102 - by following the major instruments. However since a new drum beat starts appearing since 01:00:588 - ignoring the major beat of 01:00:759 - wasn't appropriate enough.
Insane:

Inaudible Hitsound
  1. 00:16:703 (1,1,1,1) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%. If you do not plan a fix, then please note that 00:17:388 - has an inconsistent volume setting.
Inappropriate Jumps
  • The following jumps were exaggerated and forms an unnatural flow. Having a higher jump than 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - where the music is more intensed also lacked in placement logic.
  1. 01:00:759 (2,3) -
  2. 01:01:102 (4,5) -
  3. 01:01:445 (6,7) -
Bonsai
Whoohoo I got a mod too \:D/

Sonnyc wrote:

Bonsai's Insane:

Inaudible Hitsound
  1. 00:16:703 (1,2,3,4) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%. I'd be fine with that, whatever phaZ does for consistency ^^
Rhythm
  1. 01:00:759 - Your rhythm concept here was pretty much consistent since 00:55:102 - by following the major instruments. However since a new drum beat starts appearing since 01:00:588 - ignoring the major beat of 01:00:759 - wasn't appropriate enough. true, thanks :D
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osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Feint - Face Down (Cut Ver.).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 65645
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.6
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 33159,44130,77049
DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.599999

[Metadata]
Title:Face Down (Cut Ver.)
TitleUnicode:Face Down (Cut Ver.)
Artist:Feint
ArtistUnicode:Feint
Creator:phaZ
Version:Bonsai's Light Insane
Source:
Tags:Stjpa Bonsai dnb
BeatmapID:801441
BeatmapSetID:240329

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:7.5
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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Sonnyc
Oh btw since you've mentioned this song was cutted by yourself,
Do not alter the song's title. This includes adding any marker to describe the cut of the song such as "Short Ver.", "TV Size" and so forth unless those markers are part of the official song title as listed by a reputable source.
This RC includes the case for adding an additional "Cut Ver." marker.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/88299 This case of my map is also unrankable considering that RC.

I definitely support the idea of adding such markers, but rules are rules and several arguements with logical reasons have got denied with the logic of "only use officially provided metadata".
For this case, (Cut Ver.) should be removed and go to the tags.
Topic Starter
phaZ
Sonnyc

Sonnyc wrote:

General:

Inconsistent Volume Setting
  1. 00:22:188 - 01:06:078 - To avoid potential issues, please fix the inconsistent volume such as this.fixed
Normal:

Spacing
  • Places where you could improve distance snap. both accidently, thanks
  1. 00:34:359 (2,3) -
  2. 00:41:388 (1,2,3) -
Inappropriate Pattern
  1. 00:53:559 (4,1) - This is forming a 1/2 jump which doesn't suit the overall difficulty.temporarly removed, i just cant find any pleasant pattern :<
Pattern Readability
  1. 01:40:364 (3,1) - Low readability due to slider path of (1) being covered by (3). well this is definitvely readable

Insane:

Inaudible Hitsound
  1. 00:16:703 (1,1,1,1) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%. If you do not plan a fix, then please note that 00:17:388 - has an inconsistent volume setting. fixed
Inappropriate Jumps
  • The following jumps were exaggerated and forms an unnatural flow. Having a higher jump than 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - where the music is more intensed also lacked in placement logic.
  1. 01:00:759 (2,3) -
  2. 01:01:102 (4,5) -
  3. 01:01:445 (6,7) - lowered the overall ds and increased ds for 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - but also added another jump
thanks for the mod!

Sonnyc wrote:

Oh btw since you've mentioned this song was cutted by yourself,
Do not alter the song's title. This includes adding any marker to describe the cut of the song such as "Short Ver.", "TV Size" and so forth unless those markers are part of the official song title as listed by a reputable source.
This RC includes the case for adding an additional "Cut Ver." marker.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/88299 This case of my map is also unrankable considering that RC.

I definitely support the idea of adding such markers, but rules are rules and several arguements with logical reasons have got denied with the logic of "only use officially provided metadata".
For this case, (Cut Ver.) should be removed and go to the tags.
thanks for that, i will move "cut" to the tags then... rip
Stjpa

Sonnyc wrote:

Stjpa's Easy:

Combo Usage
  1. 00:38:645 (1,1,1,1) - Using every slider with a new combo lacked in forming a structure.
Fixed, I guess.

Rhythm
  1. 01:48:592 (1,1,2) - The rhythm transition between (1,1) was tricky for beginners to catch up. Removing 01:50:821 (1) is recommended.
Fixed.
gooby pls
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Feint - Face Down (Cut Ver.).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 65645
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.8
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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Luvovi
:) AMAZING :)
I love it!
Keep up the good work. I hope to be able to map as well as you one day!
~Luvovi
Topic Starter
phaZ

Luvovi wrote:

:) AMAZING :)
I love it!
Keep up the good work. I hope to be able to map as well as you one day!
~Luvovi
o3o
pishifat
the

normalslidertick3 is unused

softclap is also needs to be at least 100ms because of some error with sound cards https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... itclap.wav

tbh using 175bpm from the beginning makes sense. the same melody as when you begin the 175bpm thing is playing there, it's just that there's no drum beat and it's ~atmospheric~. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/354792 is like the same. i assume you know how to get sub .5x sv

easy
so you're following the basic white tick drum beat starting from the beginning, then you switch to that other instrument starting at 00:30:588 (1) - . there's no real musical cue to switch so i'm not really getting it. if anything it would make sense to follow that non-white-tick instrument starting from the beginning, since that's what you follow at the end too
01:53:049 (1,2) - that instrument thing is prioritizing white ticks here so this red tick stuff isn't all that fitting. 00:36:245 (1,2,3) - does it right
00:32:645 (3,2) - 01:12:935 (3,2) - super minor but getting rid of the overlapz = cleaner. works well since the rest of the diff is p clean

while it's rankable, constant 1/1 spam is pretty frowned upon on easies since it's like there's no break points. including 2/1 sliders or 2/1 gaps is the way to avoid that. in the end it works though, so it's up to you

normal
the idea is cool but might be overdoing the tiny 1/2 spacing during the intro and outro bits. using different spacing for 1/2 is fine, but like when it's half the size of the next sections 1/2 spacing, it could be too tiny. using 1x would work

insane
00:30:931 (3) - could you not put a circle on top of a reverse? that's kinda not allowed cuz of how hitbursts/hitlighting cover it zz
tehre are a billion different placement options so im sure you can think of something

if you change those and need someone to rank, you know what to do
Topic Starter
phaZ
pishifat

pishifat wrote:

the

normalslidertick3 is unused forgot to delete

softclap is also needs to be at least 100ms because of some error with sound cards https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... itclap.wav thx, added

tbh using 175bpm from the beginning makes sense. the same melody as when you begin the 175bpm thing is playing there, it's just that there's no drum beat and it's ~atmospheric~. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/354792 is like the same. i assume you know how to get sub .5x sv yea, done

normal
the idea is cool but might be overdoing the tiny 1/2 spacing during the intro and outro bits. using different spacing for 1/2 is fine, but like when it's half the size of the next sections 1/2 spacing, it could be too tiny. using 1x would work done

insane
00:30:931 (3) - could you not put a circle on top of a reverse? that's kinda not allowed cuz of how hitbursts/hitlighting cover it zz
tehre are a billion different placement options so im sure you can think of something well, fixed~

if you change those and need someone to rank, you know what to do
updated timing on all diffs. also renamed:
Light Insane -> Insane
Insane -> Extra
Stjpa

pishifat wrote:

easy
so you're following the basic white tick drum beat starting from the beginning, then you switch to that other instrument starting at 00:30:588 (1) - . there's no real musical cue to switch so i'm not really getting it. if anything it would make sense to follow that non-white-tick instrument starting from the beginning, since that's what you follow at the end too Fixed
01:53:049 (1,2) - that instrument thing is prioritizing white ticks here so this red tick stuff isn't all that fitting. 00:36:245 (1,2,3) - does it right I don't even remember if I fixed it now or not. Sleepless nights and stuff..but yeah, it should be fixed actually.
00:32:645 (3,2) - 01:12:935 (3,2) - super minor but getting rid of the overlapz = cleaner. works well since the rest of the diff is p clean Fixed

while it's rankable, constant 1/1 spam is pretty frowned upon on easies since it's like there's no break points. including 2/1 sliders or 2/1 gaps is the way to avoid that. in the end it works though, so it's up to you Gonna leave it like this
Myxo
Just a quick check on Extra before this gets bubbled. Didn't get to the other diffs yet~

[Extra]

01:00:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is very exaggerated. The music is much less intense than in the following sections, so there shouldn't be the hardest pattern in the whole map at this point. Sure, a circlejump pattern belongs here, but the distances shouldn't be that big for the reason I just mentioned.
Also, since the instrument you are following is the same all the time, the distances should be relatively equal all the time, too. Therefore 01:00:588 (1,2,3,4) - these antijumps don't really make sense.
01:03:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This definitely needs to be toned down, 1/4-kicksliders still play much harder than 1/2-circles so this part of the pattern feels even more exaggerated than the rest.

01:25:278 (1,2,3,4) - There is no way to guess that these just have 1/4-gaps in between them. They look like single-repeats at the moment, because the spacing is visually similar to 1/2-spacing used before. I'd recommend you to use a lower spacing so that is more clear.
(These are done much better 01:47:221 (1,2,3,4) - )
Topic Starter
phaZ
Desperate-kun

Desperate-kun wrote:

Just a quick check on Extra before this gets bubbled. Didn't get to the other diffs yet~

[Extra]

01:00:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is very exaggerated. The music is much less intense than in the following sections, so there shouldn't be the hardest pattern in the whole map at this point. Sure, a circlejump pattern belongs here, but the distances shouldn't be that big for the reason I just mentioned. would lower it if i lower the kickslider-jumps
Also, since the instrument you are following is the same all the time, the distances should be relatively equal all the time, too. Therefore 01:00:588 (1,2,3,4) - these antijumps don't really make sense. the patttern is indeed flawed. jump-antijumps are used the same way as the NC's are used for 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - but i want to keep it like that. the difference between those two parts is, that one is still more a real melody, while the other is more imitating a rhythm.
01:03:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This definitely needs to be toned down, 1/4-kicksliders still play much harder than 1/2-circles so this part of the pattern feels even more exaggerated than the rest. nah, i would rather make the kiai harder, which is a bit troublesome because of the way i lead from one pattern into the next one~. also i personally dont think that slider jumps are really that much harder than circle jumps as long the flow stays the same for all kickslider-jumps which is the case here. i tried to nerf the spacing by reducing the turn angle which worsened the flow making it actually harder

01:25:278 (1,2,3,4) - There is no way to guess that these just have 1/4-gaps in between them. They look like single-repeats at the moment, because the spacing is visually similar to 1/2-spacing used before. I'd recommend you to use a lower spacing so that is more clear.
(These are done much better 01:47:221 (1,2,3,4) - ) i get the "issue". but even if i singletap them similiar to an 1/2-lengthened-slider i almost never get 100's. then while playing the first one, you already know that these are 1/4-jumps. also think that reading issues getting less problematic the shorter a map is. it should get even more difficult to create more different scores
removing the old timing point led to random 1ms-snapping issues in all diffs. i took the the right to fix them on my own
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