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hi, from my q
Gl~
Moderate
Check AIMod for unsnapped objects
This diff needs to be below 2.0 stars in order for this map to be rankable
Check AIMod for unsnapped objects
This diff needs to be below 2.0 stars in order for this map to be rankable
The difficulties in the mapset must be in a consecutive order. Easy or Normal can be skipped if the gap in the star rating spread allows it. The order can be seen in the chart below. If your mapset has two difficulties, one of them cannot be an Insane or Expert. The lowest difficulty must be below 2.0 stars.Also, changes in slider velocity aren't rankable in normal because they'll just confused players, so this diff will probably need a major overhaul so I guess I'll just point out things to keep in mind instead of specific issues
- 00:00:000 - Remove all these unused green lines
- 00:24:762 (4,5) - Changes in spacing are not rankable in normal difficulties, stack this or give it proper spacing
- 00:28:876 (3,4) - Same thing about this and all other instances, fix all of them
- 00:32:819 (5) - Plays pretty bad to end on the downbeat, make it a 1/2-circle instead
- 00:42:762 (2) - Same thing here, strong beats aren't good to end a slider on, they should have something clickable on it
- 00:44:476 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm represents the music more accurately like this
- 00:49:962 (1,2,3,4) - Same ^
- 00:54:248 - Probably shouldn't skip this insanely strong beat
- 01:01:276 (2,3,4) - You should just follow the buildup of the drums here cuz that's definitely the focus of this part, right now this rhythm plays really awkwardly
- 01:16:019 (2) - Touching the hp bar
- 01:25:276 (1) - Unrankable, see this: t/241019
- 01:40:362 (3,1) - This overlap looks really bad
Insane
Why is this not just ar9?
Also, the hp is incredibly high, lower it to 7
I disagree with the way you use combos in the kiai, you should just keep NC to the big white ticks instead of random NC like these 01:20:991 (1) - 01:21:848 (1) - 01:24:762 (1) -
Why is this not just ar9?
Also, the hp is incredibly high, lower it to 7
I disagree with the way you use combos in the kiai, you should just keep NC to the big white ticks instead of random NC like these 01:20:991 (1) - 01:21:848 (1) - 01:24:762 (1) -
- 00:25:962 (6) - Stack this on 7 instead as it's clearly a different sound from 5 and white ticks like this should get the jump, not the red tick
- 00:36:933 (6) - ^
- 00:39:505 (5,6,1) - Why is the jump from 5->6 so big but 6->1 is smaller even though 1 is a stronger beat?
- 01:01:619 (1) - Delete NC?
- 01:08:133 (6,1,2) - Emphasis here is a bit wrong too, 1->2 should have more (or at least equal) spacing than 6->1
- 01:12:248 (4,5,6) - Here too
- 01:13:619 (6,1,2) - ^^ Hmm this happens in a lot places actually, look through the rest and fix them yourself
Gl~
Topic Starter
synpoo
Synpoo wrote:
hi, from my qModerate
Check AIMod for unsnapped objects
This diff needs to be below 2.0 stars in order for this map to be rankableThe difficulties in the mapset must be in a consecutive order. Easy or Normal can be skipped if the gap in the star rating spread allows it. The order can be seen in the chart below. If your mapset has two difficulties, one of them cannot be an Insane or Expert. The lowest difficulty must be below 2.0 stars.gonna do it somehow... how are people getting so picky about this? although current difficulty rating system is really good, its not like you can possibly feel those 0.07 "too high difficulty" to make it reasonable to say that this is definitely too hard...orz
Also, changes in slider velocity aren't rankable in normal because they'll just confused players, so this diff will probably need a major overhaul so I guess I'll just point out things to keep in mind instead of specific issues apparently they dont get confused by just everything, they are not dumb after all. this kind of guideline comes from long ago to prevent completely unreasonable sv-changesBut yea this diff is has lots of issues making it unrankable such as: inconsistent spacing, SV changes, spinner, etc
- 00:00:000 - Remove all these unused green lines i propably do later >.<
- 00:24:762 (4,5) - Changes in spacing are not rankable in normal difficulties, stack this or give it proper spacing ill need a hell lot of opinions about these i guess before i decide what to do with them
- 00:28:876 (3,4) - Same thing about this and all other instances, fix all of them ^
- 00:32:819 (5) - Plays pretty bad to end on the downbeat, make it a 1/2-circle instead not a really strong beat at all, even though its on a white tick. map would become harder to read too..
- 00:42:762 (2) - Same thing here, strong beats aren't good to end a slider on, they should have something clickable on it [color=#000Bb00]agree[/color]
- 00:44:476 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm represents the music more accurately like this i actually know, but having 1/2 circles combined with 1/2 sliders will make it more difficult to play/read it. i think currently the rhythm get represented well enough this way
- 00:49:962 (1,2,3,4) - Same ^ ^
- 00:54:248 - Probably shouldn't skip this insanely strong beat hmm nah~
- 01:01:276 (2,3,4) - You should just follow the buildup of the drums here cuz that's definitely the focus of this part, right now this rhythm plays really awkwardlyc gonna get some testplays for that, on hold
- 01:16:019 (2) - Touching the hp bar srsly.. D: fixed
- 01:25:276 (1) - Unrankable, see this: t/241019 fixed it
- 01:40:362 (3,1) - This overlap looks really bad looks cool
Insane
Why is this not just ar9? because ar9 feels different from 9.1 actually :v
Also, the hp is incredibly high, lower it to 7 done
I disagree with the way you use combos in the kiai, you should just keep NC to the big white ticks instead of random NC like these 01:20:991 (1) - 01:21:848 (1) - 01:24:762 (1) - time to create yet another 4/4-NC map.. :s didnt changed all
- 00:25:962 (6) - Stack this on 7 instead as it's clearly a different sound from 5 and white ticks like this should get the jump, not the red tick since i mapped along the melody 5,6 sound the same and 6,7 sound differently. when i play it and get that (i guess my hitsounding is propably irritating then) it seems to be the most logical solution the way it is. it didnt feel different to play at all anyway so..
- 00:36:933 (6) - ^^
- 00:39:505 (5,6,1) - Why is the jump from 5->6 so big but 6->1 is smaller even though 1 is a stronger beat? oops, wasnt even intended
- 01:01:619 (1) - Delete NC? well ok, i change it back :p
- 01:08:133 (6,1,2) - Emphasis here is a bit wrong too, 1->2 should have more (or at least equal) spacing than 6->1
- 01:12:248 (4,5,6) - Here too
- 01:13:619 (6,1,2) - ^^ Hmm this happens in a lot places actually, look through the rest and fix them yourselffixed 3 out of 4 (i just like one pattern too much) ;w;
Gl~ thanks for modding :3
[General]
You should check your aimod
[Insane]
00:00:249 (1,2,3,1,1) - I think you wasted alot of white ticks , your sliders Is a good idea too
00:45:333 (4,5) - why these 2 sliders cross each other?
00:47:562 (3,5) - ^
00:48:076 (5,7) - stack for a good pattern
00:50:819 (3,4) - again o.o maybe they are good. I'm not a professional modder
01:12:419 (5,2) - stack
01:31:962 (7,3) - ^
Since you have 1 insane I'm going to mod your normal and hard but I'm not a professional in easy~hard
[Heavy]
00:48:762 (2,1) - overlap maybe?
00:55:791 (2,2) - how about stacking these?
01:14:305 (1,3) - ^
Well , that's all
[Moderate]
00:23:391 (3) - move this too 00:23:562 -
00:30:076 (4) - remove this and move 00:28:876 (3) - to 00:29:048 -
00:30:762 (1,2,3) - move this to the white tick on the right or on the left
01:05:048 - 01:05:391 - missing notes o.o
That's all , I hope my mod helps you ♥
You should check your aimod
[Insane]
00:00:249 (1,2,3,1,1) - I think you wasted alot of white ticks , your sliders Is a good idea too
00:45:333 (4,5) - why these 2 sliders cross each other?
00:47:562 (3,5) - ^
00:48:076 (5,7) - stack for a good pattern
00:50:819 (3,4) - again o.o maybe they are good. I'm not a professional modder
01:12:419 (5,2) - stack
01:31:962 (7,3) - ^
Since you have 1 insane I'm going to mod your normal and hard but I'm not a professional in easy~hard
[Heavy]
00:48:762 (2,1) - overlap maybe?
00:55:791 (2,2) - how about stacking these?
01:14:305 (1,3) - ^
Well , that's all
[Moderate]
00:23:391 (3) - move this too 00:23:562 -
00:30:076 (4) - remove this and move 00:28:876 (3) - to 00:29:048 -
00:30:762 (1,2,3) - move this to the white tick on the right or on the left
01:05:048 - 01:05:391 - missing notes o.o
That's all , I hope my mod helps you ♥
Topic Starter
KASUM1
thank you!KASUM1 wrote:
[General]
You should check your aimod
fixed, but that last point didnt occur o.o
[Insane]
00:00:249 (1,2,3,1,1) - I think you wasted alot of white ticks , your sliders Is a good idea too hm nah~
00:45:333 (4,5) - why these 2 sliders cross each other? i like the pattern ;w;
00:47:562 (3,5) - ^^
00:48:076 (5,7) - stack for a good pattern done
00:50:819 (3,4) - again o.o maybe they are good. I'm not a professional modder ^
01:12:419 (5,2) - stack done
01:31:962 (7,3) - ^ 01:31:448 (4,7,1) - and 01:31:448 (4,7,2) - are tirangles. they have another angle than the pentagon 01:32:133 (1,2,3,4,5) - so they are unstackable
Since you have 1 insane I'm going to mod your normal and hard but I'm not a professional in easy~hard
[Heavy]
00:48:762 (2,1) - overlap maybe? dont think this will be confusing. the time difference is pretty high imo
00:55:791 (2,2) - how about stacking these? not so sure, i dont like that 00:56:476 (1) - would have to be moved more to the upper left, which makes playing 00:55:962 (3,1) - feel "a lot" different. it isnt noticalbe (for me) while playing anyways~
01:14:305 (1,3) - ^ done
Well , that's all
[Moderate]
00:23:391 (3) - move this too 00:23:562 - i didnt map on the drum or sth else, its on the melody. i think those syncopes are very easy to play, since they dont go against a somewhat stronger beat
00:30:076 (4) - remove this and move 00:28:876 (3) - to 00:29:048 - ^
00:30:762 (1,2,3) - move this to the white tick on the right or on the left ^
01:05:048 - 01:05:391 - missing notes o.o this is an easier difficulty which means players must be granted recovery time after a spinner~
That's all , I hope my mod helps you ♥ [color=#0000b]green = prove <3[/color]
Request in #modreqs
Overall:
Delete this in all Diff's
Moderate:
Delete the Green Lines When you are not using them
00:26:305 (6) - Maybe Something Like this? Because Flow and Nice Design ^^
00:30:076 (4) - Sanap the Note
00:32:819 (5) - Same ^
01:36:762 (2,3) - Maybe Singletap or only the 3 convert to Single Tab?
Heavy:
00:52:533 (3) - Curve?
00:57:848 (1) - Delete The Slider and Pute here 00:57:848 - a Note
01:01:962 (1,2,3) - Singletap?
01:08:305 (2) - Snap the Note with 0,2x
01:19:276 (2) - Same ^
01:30:248 (2) - Same ^
01:36:419 (2) - Something like this?
Insane:
00:22:533 (2) - Curve?
00:48:076 (5,6) - Same ^ Or Maybe only the 6
01:04:019 (5,6,7,8) - Maybe a Stream and Only 01:03:333 (1,2,3,4) - Should be Sliders
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Thats From my Side
Good Luck with your Map
Overall:
Delete this in all Diff's
Moderate:
Delete the Green Lines When you are not using them
00:26:305 (6) - Maybe Something Like this? Because Flow and Nice Design ^^
00:30:076 (4) - Sanap the Note
00:32:819 (5) - Same ^
01:36:762 (2,3) - Maybe Singletap or only the 3 convert to Single Tab?
Heavy:
00:52:533 (3) - Curve?
00:57:848 (1) - Delete The Slider and Pute here 00:57:848 - a Note
01:01:962 (1,2,3) - Singletap?
01:08:305 (2) - Snap the Note with 0,2x
01:19:276 (2) - Same ^
01:30:248 (2) - Same ^
01:36:419 (2) - Something like this?
Insane:
00:22:533 (2) - Curve?
00:48:076 (5,6) - Same ^ Or Maybe only the 6
01:04:019 (5,6,7,8) - Maybe a Stream and Only 01:03:333 (1,2,3,4) - Should be Sliders
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Thats From my Side
Good Luck with your Map
Topic Starter
Fluttershy552
Fluttershy552 wrote:
Request in #modreqs
Overall:
Delete this in all Diff's
this is basically for the flash effect when a kiai time starts. its like a minor sb even noobs like me can add
Moderate:
Delete the Green Lines When you are not using them done
00:26:305 (6) - Maybe Something Like this? Because Flow and Nice Design ^^
it should be the same with 00:24:933 (5) because they are both the same rhythm. if there is another reason notify me ingame and i might reconsider
00:30:076 (4) - Sanap the Note like every modder complained T_T im so damn sure that these work after i asked literally a dozen of newbies
00:32:819 (5) - Same ^^
01:36:762 (2,3) - Maybe Singletap or only the 3 convert to Single Tab? no because they are syncopes and sliders are more forgiving than circles. i would do it in the intro to but then it would get like "overmapped"
Heavy:
00:52:533 (3) - Curve? well okay^^
00:57:848 (1) - Delete The Slider and Pute here 00:57:848 - a Note nah. i also tried sth else but that didnt work neither imo. i just want to press my keys there :p. also i like it the way it is at 00:46:876 (1,2)
01:01:962 (1,2,3) - Singletap? changed to something completely different
01:08:305 (2) - Snap the Note with 0,2x wait i dont want an overlap i just wanna stack them
01:19:276 (2) - Same ^ ^
01:30:248 (2) - Same ^ ^
01:36:419 (2) - Something like this? all sliders must be straight in the second kiai, because now one less "instrument" is playing in the music
Insane:
00:22:533 (2) - Curve? nah
00:48:076 (5,6) - Same ^ Or Maybe only the 6 ^
01:04:019 (5,6,7,8) - Maybe a Stream and Only 01:03:333 (1,2,3,4) - Should be Sliders not, sry
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Thats From my Side thanks for your mod and time anyways =w=
Good Luck with your Map
Count yourself lucky that I'm sick.
[Moderate]
[Heavy]
[Insane]
Nice set.
- Check off Letterbox and Widescreen Support since no SB is in use.
Offset comes in a little too late. 22.185 sounds pretty solid to me.
I rechecked the Timing since there's been a small discussion about this between Bonsai and phaZ. I agree with
Bonsai, that the right Offset is 22.183, but that offset goes smoothly through the entire song. The only
discrepancy that I can find would be about 2-4ms diffrence in the Kiai. If that is what Bonsai is referring to,
then the only thing to catch that is with a second timing point, however, I found that increasing the BPM by
,005 takes care of this very well while still hitting the beats prior to kiai. Those are my two cents on this topic.
You can feel free, obviously, to not apply it.
- You're going to need a Diff below 2.00 Stars. Make an Easy or nerf the current Normal.
[Moderate]
- Rhythmical Issues:
- 00:30:076 (4) - Why did you feel the need to place a beat on this note, to empathize it, to engage with it
while ignoring the following note on 00:30:248 - ? This leaves a rather uncomfortable 3/2 gap which interrupts
with the rather consistent tapping rhythm of 1/1. I highly suggest you simply use a 1/2 slider instead
of a circle. That would catch both tunes while filling the gap + still leaving enough time for the player
to react. - 00:44:991 (3,4) - Eh, it's not particularly wrong in terms of song-rhythm, but the tapping-rhythm
is a bit too much here, in my humble opinion. The song is still in it's early stages, it hasn't 'sped-up'
enough yet, to warrant stressing the player at this point. I suggest you use a 1/2 slider to keep
both tunes and to make it more lenient to play for the player. Same on 00:50:476 (2,3) - ofc. - 01:14:133 (4,1,2,3) - I dislike this rhythm very much. I see why you would use it. It covers
all beats that hit in this section, except for the major downbeat, but not in an efficient and
satisfying way. I get that you wanted to map the synth here, alongside with the drums, but
having strong beats - in this case, the snare - on slider ends is useless, as it dosn't provide
any incentive to actively tap it. The curent 1/2 beat stresses the player unneceassirly.
I suggest you the rhythm below.TimelineThis Rhythm catches the synth while keeping a lenient and easy-to-follow tapping-rhythm.
And since you ignored the major downbeat before, I don't think that this is a huge issue. If it is
however, then you might aswell go for the drums here. - 01:36:077 (4,1,2,3) - ^
- 00:30:076 (4) - Why did you feel the need to place a beat on this note, to empathize it, to engage with it
- Placement Issues:
- 01:40:362 (3,1) - This is hidden. As in, the starting-circle and the end-circle aren't
fully visible. This can lead to confusion for newer players. Not only that but in mysubjective
opinion, I don't think this looks very good either. If you flip it around you can avoid the overlap.Pattern + Code316,364,100362,2,0,P|440:356|474:214,1,273.125005209446
448,184,101391,1,8,0:0:0:0:
376,264,101733,6,0,P|324:247|287:208,1,109.250002083778,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,148,102419,2,0,P|349:102|346:48,1,109.250002083778,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
452,68,103105,6,0,B|462:111|462:111|457:133|457:133|
- 01:40:362 (3,1) - This is hidden. As in, the starting-circle and the end-circle aren't
[Heavy]
- Cosmetical Issues:
- 00:57:505 (1) - Remove NC here as it is a little overkill imo. This section already uses a lot of short
combos, resulting in large HP boosts over and over again. Removing this NC just helps to keep the
Difficulty a bit 'high'. It also dosn't help to highlight the beat if it's inconsistent, which it is.
- 00:57:505 (1) - Remove NC here as it is a little overkill imo. This section already uses a lot of short
[Insane]
- Placement Issues:
- 00:52:533 (2,3,4) - Ay, nice placement.
- 01:03:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - All in all, nice placement BUT useless, considering that this
is after all a build-up. The tapping-speed does increase a bit, at least its a more stressing part
then the prior 1/2 part, but it gets rendered pretty much powerless considering that the
jumps in said 1/2 part are extremely far apart. This is more a slow-down than an increase
due to rhythmic changes. Either increase the spacing in the 1/4 part, or reduce it in the 1/2 part. - 01:08:133 (4,1) - Don't do that. Stack here really isn't warranted. At least, there isn't
anything in the music that would suggest a stop-and-go movement. Ontop of that it's a bit hard
to read. If you'd set 01:08:305 (1) - to x:152 y:144 it would flow much better and it would
break the flow between 01:08:305 (1,2) - to make the drum and snare stand out much more.
And 01:08:476 (2,3) - would pick the flow back up and carry it to the next pattern. - 01:13:619 (4,1) - // move 01:13:791 (1) - to x:272 y:92
- 01:19:105 (4,1) - // move 01:19:276 (1) - to x:100 y:224 (These 3 aren't even
consistent throughout the song) - 01:10:019 (5,1) - This touches the HP bar. Consider moving it down a bit, to avoid
unnecessary futur conflicts and to appease the ranking-criteria.
- 00:52:533 (2,3,4) - Ay, nice placement.
- Cosmetical Issues:
- 01:51:676 (5) - NC this one since 01:51:676 (5,6,7) - acts as a seperate/single formation/part.
- 01:57:162 (5,1) - ^ //Swap NC.
- 01:54:076 (6) - NC due to Major Downbeat.
Nice set.
random irc
23:38 Bonsai: yo hab mir grad Snaggle's mod durchgelesen und hätt eine kleine suggestion
23:39 Bonsai: nämlich in Moderate
23:39 Bonsai: 00:44:133 (1,2,3,4) -
23:39 phaZ: hm?
23:39 phaZ: 1 zu nem slider?
23:39 Bonsai: momentli
23:39 Bonsai: no
23:39 Bonsai: ^^
23:40 Bonsai: (2) head und tail sind zwei seperate noten, da is nix das iwie ein hold rechtfertigt imo, aber (3) und (4) schon
23:40 Bonsai: also wenn du dementsprechend drei 1/1-circles setzt würde das imo auch gut den Beginn dieser neuen section darstellen
23:41 phaZ: du hast vollkommen recht so hab ichs auch in der insan xD
23:41 Bonsai: o
23:41 Bonsai: lol
23:41 phaZ: naja so ungefähr^^
23:41 Bonsai: gar nicht wahr
23:41 Bonsai: liar
23:41 Bonsai: ^^
23:42 Bonsai: also ich find die ersten drei beats sind wirklich sehr distinctive
23:42 phaZ: kp was ich labere aber so in etwa hab ich dabei auch gedacht ;p
23:42 Bonsai: ja da is der slider auf 1./2. beat statt 2./3., aber imo sind eben alle drei einzeln
23:43 phaZ: stimmt schon, circle passen mehr
23:43 phaZ: wollte nur nicht zu viele clickables machen aber ich werds ändern
23:43 phaZ: danke^^
23:43 Bonsai: mh in der Moderate is dann halt 00:43:791 (3) - bissi blöd
23:44 Bonsai: vllt den dann auch zu nem 1/2-slider machen? dunno
23:44 Bonsai: ich mein ich bin sowieso kein fan von 00:38:648 (1,2,1,2,3) - weil ja eigentlich nicht auf einmal weniger los is, aber ich versteh schon warum dus machst ^^
23:45 phaZ: jaaa.. ich bin halt faul
23:45 phaZ: wenig objekt = zeit gespart
23:45 phaZ: xD
23:45 Bonsai: lol
23:45 Bonsai: ich überleg grad wie ichs machen würd
23:46 phaZ: einfach auf den white tick nochwas setzt funzt wenn mans knsequent durchziet
23:46 phaZ: lel
23:47 phaZ: ah
23:47 phaZ: fuck
23:47 phaZ: musik ist so laut
23:47 phaZ: xD
23:49 Bonsai: http://puu.sh/krGsa/90cb82bfe9.jpg
23:49 Bonsai: großer gap in der Mitte aber ansonsten fänd ich das gut ^^
23:49 Bonsai: kein Plan ob das iwie in die Map reinpasst weil ich mir die jetzt nicht ganz angesehen hab ^^
23:50 phaZ: ich schau mal^^
23:50 phaZ: so lass mich erstmal timing fixen
23:50 phaZ: :p
23:50 Bonsai: ^^
23:51 Bonsai: ur merkwürdig, Snaggle hört da voll richtig und hat auch zu mir gemeint dass sie normalerweise recht gut in Timing is, aber bei nem andren Song hören wir 12ms auseinander lol
23:53 phaZ: hmm na ich kann auch gut timen imo :p hab mir nur keine mühe wahrsch gegeben
23:53 phaZ: also wenn du mal kurz testne willst
23:53 phaZ: 00:50:305 -
23:53 phaZ: perfekter beat zum hören
23:54 phaZ: ich dreh immer volume hoch, 25% und dann spamme ich [c] und [space]
23:54 phaZ: um in etwa 3ms schritten nach den beat zu lauschen^^
23:54 phaZ: wenns geht..
23:55 phaZ: ich komme dann auf 8ms abziehen xD
23:56 Bonsai: mh ja bei der Stelle is das auch ganz korrekt
23:56 Bonsai: aber verschiedene beats haben verschiedene attack points
23:56 Bonsai: wait
23:56 phaZ: ik aber ich richte mich einfach nach dem denn da weiß ichs genau
23:57 Bonsai: ja das bringt aber nix wenn dann der restliche Song off is ^^
23:57 Bonsai: aber wart kurz
23:57 Bonsai: cih geh mal selber alle Stellen durch
23:58 Bonsai: jo fun fact
23:58 phaZ: weicht auch nur 2ms von snaggle ab also..
23:58 Bonsai: doch nicht
23:58 Bonsai: lel
23:58 phaZ: okay
23:58 phaZ:
23:58 Bonsai: huh ne 6
23:58 Bonsai: aso
23:59 phaZ: wenn ichs um -8 korrigiere^^
00:00 phaZ: 01:07:783 -
00:00 Bonsai: in der Kiai
00:00 phaZ: guuut hier ist es dann aber zu früh
00:00 phaZ: fuck life
00:00 Bonsai: ja
00:00 Bonsai: ganze Kiai is es dann zu früh
00:00 Bonsai: ich würd sagen
00:00 Bonsai: hm
00:00 Bonsai: das is echt behindert ^^
00:00 phaZ: mein wert den ich am anfang hatte ist gut ;D
00:01 Bonsai: ja für den Schluss ja
00:01 Bonsai: wobei ich da 189 fast besser find
00:01 Bonsai: überleg jetzt ob 187 zuviel is
00:01 phaZ: ich habe das auch mal getestplayed kam auf den loweren diffs was mit standard mäßig 6ms early wie snaggle
00:01 phaZ: auf der insane aber eig keine
00:01 Bonsai: ne pass auf
00:01 Bonsai: pass auf pass auf
00:02 Bonsai: du machst einfach zwei timing points
00:02 Bonsai: weil es is exakt
00:02 Bonsai: zwischen 01:05:733 und 01:06:076
00:02 Bonsai: verschiebung
00:02 Bonsai: 01:06:076
00:02 Bonsai: argh fuck timestamps
00:02 phaZ:
00:03 phaZ: nix klicken ick kann
00:03 Bonsai: jo i know wart kurz
00:03 Bonsai: also für den part davor find ich183 eig besser
00:04 Bonsai: und ja dann mach einfach bei 01:06:076 die zweite
00:04 Bonsai: das wäre 191
00:04 Bonsai: so wie dus derzeit hast
00:05 phaZ: wtf machst du dass deine links kaputt gehen xD
00:05 Bonsai: ohne notes
00:05 phaZ: strg+c die aus dem editor :v
00:05 Bonsai: gehen links generell nicht
00:05 phaZ: 00:28:697 -
00:05 Bonsai: lol ok damn muss - dazutun
00:05 phaZ: doch
00:05 phaZ: :p
00:05 Bonsai: fu
00:05 Bonsai:
00:05 Bonsai: 01:06:075-
00:05 Bonsai: WEOUIFvesofuic
00:05 Bonsai: [01:06:075 -]
00:06 Bonsai: W T F
00:06 Bonsai: WHY DOES THIS WORK BUT NOT WORK AT THE SAME TIME
00:06 Bonsai: 01:06:075 -
00:06 Bonsai: k
00:06 Bonsai: das is 190 hue
00:06 Bonsai: klingt noch korrekter imo
00:07 Bonsai: weil auch in der Kiai gibts verschiedene Stellen an denens verschieden klingt, aber das bild ich mir ein is nicer Kompromiss
00:07 Bonsai: got it?
00:08 phaZ: naja.. ich denke da sist eher auf meinen audioedit zurückzuführen xD
00:08 Bonsai: OOOOOOOOOO
00:08 Bonsai: haste dort gecutted?
00:08 phaZ: ich hab die short ver seelbst geschnitten
00:08 Bonsai: lol
00:08 phaZ: ne
00:08 Bonsai: wo denn wtf
00:08 phaZ: aber feel komprimierung
00:09 Bonsai: mh
00:09 Bonsai: jo kann auch sein, bei mir bleibt immer alles richtig verschiebt sich aber um 30ms lol
00:09 phaZ: wenn du das orignial hättest könnstest du es schon an der quality merken
00:09 phaZ:
00:09 Bonsai: lol
00:09 phaZ: 01:58:191 -
00:09 Bonsai: aber woranauchimmer es liegt, musst es trotzdem mit zwei points machen
00:10 phaZ: neineienineien
00:10 Bonsai: ?
00:10 phaZ: ich behalt einfach mein timing von anfang an das liegt schön dazwischen xD
00:10 Bonsai: noo das liegt am Anfang viel zu spät
00:10 Bonsai: pls
00:11 Bonsai: is doch nicht schlimm zwei zu machen c'mon
00:11 *Bonsai is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/651744 supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari [Celestial]]
00:11 Bonsai: schau wie fucked up das is
00:12 phaZ: ich hab zwar die offsets raus aber ich hab da ne abneigung gegen xD
00:12 Bonsai: w h y
00:12 Bonsai: p l s D:
00:14 phaZ: hmm
00:14 phaZ: ich überleg mnir das mal
00:14 phaZ: ich probier auch mal den timer aus von audacity
00:14 phaZ: den von ztrot aus dem acadamy video
00:14 phaZ: *e
00:14 Bonsai: O.o
00:14 phaZ: und schau mal :p
00:15 phaZ: die sind nur für single bpm gut
00:15 Bonsai: pls was hast du dagegen einzuwenden x.x
00:15 Bonsai: ergo es is nciht gut dafür
00:15 Bonsai: pls
00:15 Bonsai: ich schrieb zuviel pls
00:15 phaZ: weil es kein sinn macht dass der sing multitimed ist
00:16 phaZ: DNB
00:16 phaZ: ;D
00:16 Bonsai: es macht schon Sinn weil unterschiedliche Attack Points
00:16 phaZ: gut ja du kannst sagen
00:17 phaZ: die samples die feint verwendet sind nicht alle mit gleichen attackpoints
00:17 phaZ: aber er richtet sich nach nur einer bpm/einem offset
00:17 phaZ: der song hat einfach nicht mehr als eins
00:17 Bonsai: ja aber das bringt nix wenn man es spielt
00:17 Bonsai: schau, wir sind quasi alle drei draufgekommen dass es an unterschiedlichen Stellen unterschiedlich is
00:18 Bonsai: es is egal wieso das so is, Tatsache is dass der Unterschied hörbar is und dann auch beim Spielen beeinflusst
00:20 phaZ: ach sei mal nicht so pingelig xD hitsounds die ich verwende sind auch nicht perfekt und trotzdem kann ich od8 99%
00:20 phaZ: und ich verwendequasi standard hitsounds
00:20 Bonsai: weil hitsounds sich auch nicht nach dem song sondern nach deinem input richten, und dein input nach dem Song
00:20 phaZ: ne genauigkeit von 8ms in der map sind ausreichen
00:22 phaZ: du zerstörst iwie meine dnb welt xD ich weiß dass es nicht aber
00:22 phaZ: T_T
00:22 phaZ:
00:22 Bonsai: ich schau jetzt noch ob ich sonst nochwas find damit ich mich nicht schlecht fühl wenn ich für das alles kudsou! grabben will ^^
00:22 Bonsai: hue
00:23 phaZ: wär schon gerecht fertigt
00:23 Bonsai: egal, ich schau einmal über alles drüber ^^
00:23 phaZ: hast was nützliches zur moderate geasgt das reicht ^^
00:23 phaZ: ok
00:23 Bonsai: In Heavy schaut 00:24:762 (5,1) - recht komisch aus weils halt hauchdünn is, ich würds einfach ein pixel nach unten und nach rechts schieben
00:23 Bonsai: und weils nicht 100% perfekt blanket is hue
00:24 Bonsai: bzw is es generell bissi inkonsistent, zB 00:28:533 (3,1) - is auch so hauchdünn, 00:29:733 (3,1) - aber nicht
00:24 Bonsai: dunno
00:25 Bonsai: mal nicht so nazi: ich find bei 00:31:448 noch nen circle zu adden würd helfen dass sich der rhythmus nicht ganz so weird anfühlt
00:25 Bonsai: aaaaaah
00:25 Bonsai: wär 00:42:419 - dann genauso
00:25 phaZ: nah da kommt keiner hin
00:25 Bonsai: oki ^^
00:26 phaZ: so ist der song
00:26 Bonsai: naja der song hat viele rhythmen und bis dahin lassen sich gut mehrere rhythmen quasi gfleichzeitig mappen, aber da sticht halt der eine imo zu krass raus
00:26 Bonsai: aber egal, moving on ^^
00:27 Bonsai: 00:43:276 (4) - was is der Sinn dahinter denn 1/8 zu machen wenn du dann genau den einen beat der es zu 1/8 macht silenced? O.o
00:27 phaZ: ist 1/4
00:27 phaZ: o.o
00:27 phaZ: so
00:27 Bonsai: o ja
00:27 phaZ: dann ist das wegen hitsound
00:28 phaZ: aber ich muss mal den hitsound lauter machen
00:28 phaZ: den hört man eh kaum
00:28 Bonsai: jo 8% lol ich hör gar nix ^^
00:28 phaZ: und in der hard hab och den gar nicht erst gesetztt x
00:28 phaZ: D
00:28 Bonsai: lol
00:28 phaZ: der existiter nur in insanelol
00:28 Bonsai: tze tze tze ^^+wuss
00:28 Bonsai: ich bin in der Hard lel
00:28 Bonsai: aso
00:28 Bonsai: ja
00:28 Bonsai: nvm ^^
00:29 phaZ: deleted
00:29 Bonsai: 00:44:133 (1) - und 00:49:619 (1,2) - is iwie zimelich inconsistent, beim ersten den 1/1-slider zu setzen is eh imo nicht so gut weil dann der wichtige zweite beat auf der tail liegt und keine emphasis bekommt
00:30 Bonsai: 01:07:791 (1,2) - magst du dass nicht vllt in die andre Richtung stacken damit mans auch sehen kann? o:
00:31 phaZ: ich maczhs andersrum
00:31 phaZ: ich nehm die 2x 1/2slider raus
00:31 Bonsai: mhk ^^ merk eh grad dass im rest der map auch fast immer 1/1 is
00:32 phaZ: um ehrlich zu sein
00:32 Bonsai: lol ich merk grad erst dass das ja auto-stack is
00:32 phaZ: hat hikarur mir die normal oder hard machen wollen
00:32 phaZ: und meinte nah wirde nichts aber du kannst es hab
00:32 Bonsai: aber auto-stack exakt unter den slider lol
00:32 phaZ: und ich habs nur gepolished
00:33 Bonsai: 01:29:219 (4,5,6) - beweg die vllt 8x8 pixel nach rechts/unten weil das ziemlich extrem is dass es fast die (3) verührt ^^
00:33 phaZ: also eigentlich erkennt nichts mehr weil er auch noob mapper ist/war xD
00:34 Bonsai: huh ich versteh null von dem was du grad gesgat hast ^^
00:34 phaZ: w/e
00:34 phaZ: 01:29:220 (4,5,6) - mach ich nmanual stack
00:34 phaZ: ist wegen dem pattern halt so
00:34 Bonsai: brauchst es ja nicht manual machen, einfach alles 8x8 schieben, das negiert genau den autostack
00:35 phaZ: neineinein dann hab ich das pattern nicht in dern map
00:35 phaZ: und außerdem ist der autostack kleiner als 4x4..
00:35 phaZ:
00:35 Bonsai: whut
00:35 Bonsai: o:
00:35 *Bonsai muss das gleich probieren
00:35 phaZ: wenn du 4 circle hast
00:36 phaZ: und du 2manual stacks
00:36 phaZ: und die anderen autostacks
00:36 phaZ: dann sieht der stack nicht gelichmäßig aus imo
00:36 phaZ: also (1,2) autostack (2,3) manual (3,4) auto
00:37 Bonsai: sitmmt, schaut mehr 3x4 aus
00:37 Bonsai: also wenn ich dann den manual nur 3x4 mach schauts wieder perfekt aus
00:38 phaZ: wenn ich view-stacking aktiviere sagt der zwar 4x4
00:38 phaZ: aber beim spielen apsst einfach nicht ganz iwie :v
00:38 Bonsai: aso
00:38 Bonsai: whoot
00:39 Bonsai: also bei mir schauen dann beim spielen auch 3x4 perfekt aus ^^
00:39 Bonsai: na gut ich lass es jetzt mal dabei mim modden
00:39 Bonsai: sollt dann mal duschen/schlafen gehen lol
00:40 phaZ: gut^^ danke :3
23:39 Bonsai: nämlich in Moderate
23:39 Bonsai: 00:44:133 (1,2,3,4) -
23:39 phaZ: hm?
23:39 phaZ: 1 zu nem slider?
23:39 Bonsai: momentli
23:39 Bonsai: no
23:39 Bonsai: ^^
23:40 Bonsai: (2) head und tail sind zwei seperate noten, da is nix das iwie ein hold rechtfertigt imo, aber (3) und (4) schon
23:40 Bonsai: also wenn du dementsprechend drei 1/1-circles setzt würde das imo auch gut den Beginn dieser neuen section darstellen
23:41 phaZ: du hast vollkommen recht so hab ichs auch in der insan xD
23:41 Bonsai: o
23:41 Bonsai: lol
23:41 phaZ: naja so ungefähr^^
23:41 Bonsai: gar nicht wahr
23:41 Bonsai: liar
23:41 Bonsai: ^^
23:42 Bonsai: also ich find die ersten drei beats sind wirklich sehr distinctive
23:42 phaZ: kp was ich labere aber so in etwa hab ich dabei auch gedacht ;p
23:42 Bonsai: ja da is der slider auf 1./2. beat statt 2./3., aber imo sind eben alle drei einzeln
23:43 phaZ: stimmt schon, circle passen mehr
23:43 phaZ: wollte nur nicht zu viele clickables machen aber ich werds ändern
23:43 phaZ: danke^^
23:43 Bonsai: mh in der Moderate is dann halt 00:43:791 (3) - bissi blöd
23:44 Bonsai: vllt den dann auch zu nem 1/2-slider machen? dunno
23:44 Bonsai: ich mein ich bin sowieso kein fan von 00:38:648 (1,2,1,2,3) - weil ja eigentlich nicht auf einmal weniger los is, aber ich versteh schon warum dus machst ^^
23:45 phaZ: jaaa.. ich bin halt faul
23:45 phaZ: wenig objekt = zeit gespart
23:45 phaZ: xD
23:45 Bonsai: lol
23:45 Bonsai: ich überleg grad wie ichs machen würd
23:46 phaZ: einfach auf den white tick nochwas setzt funzt wenn mans knsequent durchziet
23:46 phaZ: lel
23:47 phaZ: ah
23:47 phaZ: fuck
23:47 phaZ: musik ist so laut
23:47 phaZ: xD
23:49 Bonsai: http://puu.sh/krGsa/90cb82bfe9.jpg
23:49 Bonsai: großer gap in der Mitte aber ansonsten fänd ich das gut ^^
23:49 Bonsai: kein Plan ob das iwie in die Map reinpasst weil ich mir die jetzt nicht ganz angesehen hab ^^
23:50 phaZ: ich schau mal^^
23:50 phaZ: so lass mich erstmal timing fixen
23:50 phaZ: :p
23:50 Bonsai: ^^
23:51 Bonsai: ur merkwürdig, Snaggle hört da voll richtig und hat auch zu mir gemeint dass sie normalerweise recht gut in Timing is, aber bei nem andren Song hören wir 12ms auseinander lol
23:53 phaZ: hmm na ich kann auch gut timen imo :p hab mir nur keine mühe wahrsch gegeben
23:53 phaZ: also wenn du mal kurz testne willst
23:53 phaZ: 00:50:305 -
23:53 phaZ: perfekter beat zum hören
23:54 phaZ: ich dreh immer volume hoch, 25% und dann spamme ich [c] und [space]
23:54 phaZ: um in etwa 3ms schritten nach den beat zu lauschen^^
23:54 phaZ: wenns geht..
23:55 phaZ: ich komme dann auf 8ms abziehen xD
23:56 Bonsai: mh ja bei der Stelle is das auch ganz korrekt
23:56 Bonsai: aber verschiedene beats haben verschiedene attack points
23:56 Bonsai: wait
23:56 phaZ: ik aber ich richte mich einfach nach dem denn da weiß ichs genau
23:57 Bonsai: ja das bringt aber nix wenn dann der restliche Song off is ^^
23:57 Bonsai: aber wart kurz
23:57 Bonsai: cih geh mal selber alle Stellen durch
23:58 Bonsai: jo fun fact
23:58 phaZ: weicht auch nur 2ms von snaggle ab also..
23:58 Bonsai: doch nicht
23:58 Bonsai: lel
23:58 phaZ: okay
23:58 phaZ:
23:58 Bonsai: huh ne 6
23:58 Bonsai: aso
23:59 phaZ: wenn ichs um -8 korrigiere^^
00:00 phaZ: 01:07:783 -
00:00 Bonsai: in der Kiai
00:00 phaZ: guuut hier ist es dann aber zu früh
00:00 phaZ: fuck life
00:00 Bonsai: ja
00:00 Bonsai: ganze Kiai is es dann zu früh
00:00 Bonsai: ich würd sagen
00:00 Bonsai: hm
00:00 Bonsai: das is echt behindert ^^
00:00 phaZ: mein wert den ich am anfang hatte ist gut ;D
00:01 Bonsai: ja für den Schluss ja
00:01 Bonsai: wobei ich da 189 fast besser find
00:01 Bonsai: überleg jetzt ob 187 zuviel is
00:01 phaZ: ich habe das auch mal getestplayed kam auf den loweren diffs was mit standard mäßig 6ms early wie snaggle
00:01 phaZ: auf der insane aber eig keine
00:01 Bonsai: ne pass auf
00:01 Bonsai: pass auf pass auf
00:02 Bonsai: du machst einfach zwei timing points
00:02 Bonsai: weil es is exakt
00:02 Bonsai: zwischen 01:05:733 und 01:06:076
00:02 Bonsai: verschiebung
00:02 Bonsai: 01:06:076
00:02 Bonsai: argh fuck timestamps
00:02 phaZ:
00:03 phaZ: nix klicken ick kann
00:03 Bonsai: jo i know wart kurz
00:03 Bonsai: also für den part davor find ich183 eig besser
00:04 Bonsai: und ja dann mach einfach bei 01:06:076 die zweite
00:04 Bonsai: das wäre 191
00:04 Bonsai: so wie dus derzeit hast
00:05 phaZ: wtf machst du dass deine links kaputt gehen xD
00:05 Bonsai: ohne notes
00:05 phaZ: strg+c die aus dem editor :v
00:05 Bonsai: gehen links generell nicht
00:05 phaZ: 00:28:697 -
00:05 Bonsai: lol ok damn muss - dazutun
00:05 phaZ: doch
00:05 phaZ: :p
00:05 Bonsai: fu
00:05 Bonsai:
00:05 Bonsai: 01:06:075-
00:05 Bonsai: WEOUIFvesofuic
00:05 Bonsai: [01:06:075 -]
00:06 Bonsai: W T F
00:06 Bonsai: WHY DOES THIS WORK BUT NOT WORK AT THE SAME TIME
00:06 Bonsai: 01:06:075 -
00:06 Bonsai: k
00:06 Bonsai: das is 190 hue
00:06 Bonsai: klingt noch korrekter imo
00:07 Bonsai: weil auch in der Kiai gibts verschiedene Stellen an denens verschieden klingt, aber das bild ich mir ein is nicer Kompromiss
00:07 Bonsai: got it?
00:08 phaZ: naja.. ich denke da sist eher auf meinen audioedit zurückzuführen xD
00:08 Bonsai: OOOOOOOOOO
00:08 Bonsai: haste dort gecutted?
00:08 phaZ: ich hab die short ver seelbst geschnitten
00:08 Bonsai: lol
00:08 phaZ: ne
00:08 Bonsai: wo denn wtf
00:08 phaZ: aber feel komprimierung
00:09 Bonsai: mh
00:09 Bonsai: jo kann auch sein, bei mir bleibt immer alles richtig verschiebt sich aber um 30ms lol
00:09 phaZ: wenn du das orignial hättest könnstest du es schon an der quality merken
00:09 phaZ:
00:09 Bonsai: lol
00:09 phaZ: 01:58:191 -
00:09 Bonsai: aber woranauchimmer es liegt, musst es trotzdem mit zwei points machen
00:10 phaZ: neineienineien
00:10 Bonsai: ?
00:10 phaZ: ich behalt einfach mein timing von anfang an das liegt schön dazwischen xD
00:10 Bonsai: noo das liegt am Anfang viel zu spät
00:10 Bonsai: pls
00:11 Bonsai: is doch nicht schlimm zwei zu machen c'mon
00:11 *Bonsai is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/651744 supercell - Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari [Celestial]]
00:11 Bonsai: schau wie fucked up das is
00:12 phaZ: ich hab zwar die offsets raus aber ich hab da ne abneigung gegen xD
00:12 Bonsai: w h y
00:12 Bonsai: p l s D:
00:14 phaZ: hmm
00:14 phaZ: ich überleg mnir das mal
00:14 phaZ: ich probier auch mal den timer aus von audacity
00:14 phaZ: den von ztrot aus dem acadamy video
00:14 phaZ: *e
00:14 Bonsai: O.o
00:14 phaZ: und schau mal :p
00:15 phaZ: die sind nur für single bpm gut
00:15 Bonsai: pls was hast du dagegen einzuwenden x.x
00:15 Bonsai: ergo es is nciht gut dafür
00:15 Bonsai: pls
00:15 Bonsai: ich schrieb zuviel pls
00:15 phaZ: weil es kein sinn macht dass der sing multitimed ist
00:16 phaZ: DNB
00:16 phaZ: ;D
00:16 Bonsai: es macht schon Sinn weil unterschiedliche Attack Points
00:16 phaZ: gut ja du kannst sagen
00:17 phaZ: die samples die feint verwendet sind nicht alle mit gleichen attackpoints
00:17 phaZ: aber er richtet sich nach nur einer bpm/einem offset
00:17 phaZ: der song hat einfach nicht mehr als eins
00:17 Bonsai: ja aber das bringt nix wenn man es spielt
00:17 Bonsai: schau, wir sind quasi alle drei draufgekommen dass es an unterschiedlichen Stellen unterschiedlich is
00:18 Bonsai: es is egal wieso das so is, Tatsache is dass der Unterschied hörbar is und dann auch beim Spielen beeinflusst
00:20 phaZ: ach sei mal nicht so pingelig xD hitsounds die ich verwende sind auch nicht perfekt und trotzdem kann ich od8 99%
00:20 phaZ: und ich verwendequasi standard hitsounds
00:20 Bonsai: weil hitsounds sich auch nicht nach dem song sondern nach deinem input richten, und dein input nach dem Song
00:20 phaZ: ne genauigkeit von 8ms in der map sind ausreichen
00:22 phaZ: du zerstörst iwie meine dnb welt xD ich weiß dass es nicht aber
00:22 phaZ: T_T
00:22 phaZ:
00:22 Bonsai: ich schau jetzt noch ob ich sonst nochwas find damit ich mich nicht schlecht fühl wenn ich für das alles kudsou! grabben will ^^
00:22 Bonsai: hue
00:23 phaZ: wär schon gerecht fertigt
00:23 Bonsai: egal, ich schau einmal über alles drüber ^^
00:23 phaZ: hast was nützliches zur moderate geasgt das reicht ^^
00:23 phaZ: ok
00:23 Bonsai: In Heavy schaut 00:24:762 (5,1) - recht komisch aus weils halt hauchdünn is, ich würds einfach ein pixel nach unten und nach rechts schieben
00:23 Bonsai: und weils nicht 100% perfekt blanket is hue
00:24 Bonsai: bzw is es generell bissi inkonsistent, zB 00:28:533 (3,1) - is auch so hauchdünn, 00:29:733 (3,1) - aber nicht
00:24 Bonsai: dunno
00:25 Bonsai: mal nicht so nazi: ich find bei 00:31:448 noch nen circle zu adden würd helfen dass sich der rhythmus nicht ganz so weird anfühlt
00:25 Bonsai: aaaaaah
00:25 Bonsai: wär 00:42:419 - dann genauso
00:25 phaZ: nah da kommt keiner hin
00:25 Bonsai: oki ^^
00:26 phaZ: so ist der song
00:26 Bonsai: naja der song hat viele rhythmen und bis dahin lassen sich gut mehrere rhythmen quasi gfleichzeitig mappen, aber da sticht halt der eine imo zu krass raus
00:26 Bonsai: aber egal, moving on ^^
00:27 Bonsai: 00:43:276 (4) - was is der Sinn dahinter denn 1/8 zu machen wenn du dann genau den einen beat der es zu 1/8 macht silenced? O.o
00:27 phaZ: ist 1/4
00:27 phaZ: o.o
00:27 phaZ: so
00:27 Bonsai: o ja
00:27 phaZ: dann ist das wegen hitsound
00:28 phaZ: aber ich muss mal den hitsound lauter machen
00:28 phaZ: den hört man eh kaum
00:28 Bonsai: jo 8% lol ich hör gar nix ^^
00:28 phaZ: und in der hard hab och den gar nicht erst gesetztt x
00:28 phaZ: D
00:28 Bonsai: lol
00:28 phaZ: der existiter nur in insanelol
00:28 Bonsai: tze tze tze ^^+wuss
00:28 Bonsai: ich bin in der Hard lel
00:28 Bonsai: aso
00:28 Bonsai: ja
00:28 Bonsai: nvm ^^
00:29 phaZ: deleted
00:29 Bonsai: 00:44:133 (1) - und 00:49:619 (1,2) - is iwie zimelich inconsistent, beim ersten den 1/1-slider zu setzen is eh imo nicht so gut weil dann der wichtige zweite beat auf der tail liegt und keine emphasis bekommt
00:30 Bonsai: 01:07:791 (1,2) - magst du dass nicht vllt in die andre Richtung stacken damit mans auch sehen kann? o:
00:31 phaZ: ich maczhs andersrum
00:31 phaZ: ich nehm die 2x 1/2slider raus
00:31 Bonsai: mhk ^^ merk eh grad dass im rest der map auch fast immer 1/1 is
00:32 phaZ: um ehrlich zu sein
00:32 Bonsai: lol ich merk grad erst dass das ja auto-stack is
00:32 phaZ: hat hikarur mir die normal oder hard machen wollen
00:32 phaZ: und meinte nah wirde nichts aber du kannst es hab
00:32 Bonsai: aber auto-stack exakt unter den slider lol
00:32 phaZ: und ich habs nur gepolished
00:33 Bonsai: 01:29:219 (4,5,6) - beweg die vllt 8x8 pixel nach rechts/unten weil das ziemlich extrem is dass es fast die (3) verührt ^^
00:33 phaZ: also eigentlich erkennt nichts mehr weil er auch noob mapper ist/war xD
00:34 Bonsai: huh ich versteh null von dem was du grad gesgat hast ^^
00:34 phaZ: w/e
00:34 phaZ: 01:29:220 (4,5,6) - mach ich nmanual stack
00:34 phaZ: ist wegen dem pattern halt so
00:34 Bonsai: brauchst es ja nicht manual machen, einfach alles 8x8 schieben, das negiert genau den autostack
00:35 phaZ: neineinein dann hab ich das pattern nicht in dern map
00:35 phaZ: und außerdem ist der autostack kleiner als 4x4..
00:35 phaZ:
00:35 Bonsai: whut
00:35 Bonsai: o:
00:35 *Bonsai muss das gleich probieren
00:35 phaZ: wenn du 4 circle hast
00:36 phaZ: und du 2manual stacks
00:36 phaZ: und die anderen autostacks
00:36 phaZ: dann sieht der stack nicht gelichmäßig aus imo
00:36 phaZ: also (1,2) autostack (2,3) manual (3,4) auto
00:37 Bonsai: sitmmt, schaut mehr 3x4 aus
00:37 Bonsai: also wenn ich dann den manual nur 3x4 mach schauts wieder perfekt aus
00:38 phaZ: wenn ich view-stacking aktiviere sagt der zwar 4x4
00:38 phaZ: aber beim spielen apsst einfach nicht ganz iwie :v
00:38 Bonsai: aso
00:38 Bonsai: whoot
00:39 Bonsai: also bei mir schauen dann beim spielen auch 3x4 perfekt aus ^^
00:39 Bonsai: na gut ich lass es jetzt mal dabei mim modden
00:39 Bonsai: sollt dann mal duschen/schlafen gehen lol
00:40 phaZ: gut^^ danke :3
@Timing: We discovered that for the part before Kiai it is indeed to high and 22.185 or even less is probably right for that part, but it seems to change exactly at the first beat of the Kiai, maybe bc of different attack points or whatever, where 01:06:075 is imo the right offset (which is the original timing -1 hehe). Dunno what phaZ is doing in the end tho ^^
Topic Starter
Snaggletooth01:36:077 (4,1,2,3) - ^Placement Issues:
Snaggletooth wrote:
Count yourself lucky that I'm sick.
- Check off Letterbox and Widescreen Support since no SB is in use. this...
- Offset comes in a little too late. 22.185 sounds pretty solid to me. took a look at it. gonna do things like Bonzai suggested
- You're going to need a Diff below 2.00 Stars. Make an Easy or nerf the current Normal.
[Moderate]
- Rhythmical Issues:
- 00:30:076 (4) - Why did you feel the need to place a beat on this note, to empathize it, to engage with it
while ignoring the following note on 00:30:248 - ? This leaves a rather uncomfortable 3/2 gap which interrupts
with the rather consistent tapping rhythm of 1/1. I highly suggest you simply use a 1/2 slider instead
of a circle. That would catch both tunes while filling the gap + still leaving enough time for the player
to react.kinda true :p- 00:44:991 (3,4) - Eh, it's not particularly wrong in terms of song-rhythm, but the tapping-rhythm
is a bit too much here, in my humble opinion. The song is still in it's early stages, it hasn't 'sped-up'
enough yet, to warrant stressing the player at this point. I suggest you use a 1/2 slider to keep
both tunes and to make it more lenient to play for the player. Same on 00:50:476 (2,3) - ofc. i dont think a slider is good because it would be played like a syncope. using circles is imo better to read/play. might change it in another way after looking through bonazi's stuff ^^- 01:14:133 (4,1,2,3) - I dislike this rhythm very much. I see why you would use it. It covers
all beats that hit in this section, except for the major downbeat, but not in an efficient and
satisfying way. I get that you wanted to map the synth here, alongside with the drums, but
having strong beats - in this case, the snare - on slider ends is useless, as it dosn't provide
any incentive to actively tap it. The curent 1/2 beat stresses the player unneceassirly.
I suggest you the rhythm below. sorry but i cant agree here~ it should be the same like at 00:30:591 (1,2,3,4). now obviously its plays the same and still is "harder" fitting with the kiai. i could change 00:30:591 (1,2,3,4) - too, but then it wouldnt leave me an option to make it harder in the kiai. anyway cant go with that kind of suggestion, would do sth different because: 01:14:648 - not mapped thr offbeat but 01:15:333 - mapped the offbeat. then just adding a circle would turn it into another pattern of which i personally think doesnt represent the rhythm of the song the way it should >.<
[box=Timeline]This Rhythm catches the synth while keeping a lenient and easy-to-follow tapping-rhythm.
And since you ignored the major downbeat before, I don't think that this is a huge issue. If it is
however, then you might aswell go for the drums here.
- 01:40:362 (3,1) - This is hidden. As in, the starting-circle and the end-circle aren't
fully visible. This can lead to confusion for newer players. Not only that but in mysubjective
opinion, I don't think this looks very good either. If you flip it around you can avoid the overlap. D: i like how it overlap - as same as i like the angle to the previous slider (2). i asked some newbie friends for testing this diff already because of some other worrysome issues but i ont remember this being a problem. going to find some more then for testing :pPattern + Code316,364,100362,2,0,P|440:356|474:214,1,273.125005209446
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[Heavy]
- Cosmetical Issues:
- 00:57:505 (1) - Remove NC here as it is a little overkill imo. This section already uses a lot of short
combos, resulting in large HP boosts over and over again. Removing this NC just helps to keep the
Difficulty a bit 'high'. It also dosn't help to highlight the beat if it's inconsistent, which it is. agree
- 00:57:505 (1) - Remove NC here as it is a little overkill imo. This section already uses a lot of short
[Insane]
- Placement Issues:
- 00:52:533 (2,3,4) - Ay, nice placement.
- 01:03:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - All in all, nice placement BUT useless, considering that this
is after all a build-up. The tapping-speed does increase a bit, at least its a more stressing part
then the prior 1/2 part, but it gets rendered pretty much powerless considering that the
jumps in said 1/2 part are extremely far apart. This is more a slow-down than an increase
due to rhythmic changes. Either increase the spacing in the 1/4 part, or reduce it in the 1/2 part. hope its fine now - 01:08:133 (4,1) - Don't do that. Stack here really isn't warranted. At least, there isn't
anything in the music that would suggest a stop-and-go movement. Ontop of that it's a bit hard
to read. If you'd set 01:08:305 (1) - to x:152 y:144 it would flow much better and it would
break the flow between 01:08:305 (1,2) - to make the drum and snare stand out much more.
And 01:08:476 (2,3) - would pick the flow back up and carry it to the next pattern. changed it entirely - 01:13:619 (4,1) - // move 01:13:791 (1) - to x:272 y:92 ^
- 01:19:105 (4,1) - // move 01:19:276 (1) - to x:100 y:224 (These 3 aren't even ^ but how are they not consistent
consistent throughout the song) - 01:10:019 (5,1) - This touches the HP bar. Consider moving it down a bit, to avoid not existing anymore
unnecessary futur conflicts and to appease the ranking-criteria.
- 00:52:533 (2,3,4) - Ay, nice placement.
- Cosmetical Issues:
- 01:51:676 (5) - NC this one since 01:51:676 (5,6,7) - acts as a seperate/single formation/part. sound belongs to previous melody.. anyway, i made it identical to the NC-ing at the intro
- 01:57:162 (5,1) - ^ //Swap NC.
- 01:54:076 (6) - NC due to Major Downbeat.
Nice set. thanks
[/box]thanks a lot! motivated me again to work on the maps a bit
spoilerboxes...
Topic Starter
timing
doing things like bonsai at the endSnaggletooth wrote:
Count yourself lucky that I'm sick.
Offset comes in a little too late. 22.185 sounds pretty solid to me.
I rechecked the Timing since there's been a small discussion about this between Bonsai and phaZ. I agree with
Bonsai, that the right Offset is 22.183, but that offset goes smoothly through the entire song. The only
discrepancy that I can find would be about 2-4ms diffrence in the Kiai. If that is what Bonsai is referring to,
then the only thing to catch that is with a second timing point, however, I found that increasing the BPM by
,005 takes care of this very well while still hitting the beats prior to kiai. Those are my two cents on this topic.
You can feel free, obviously, to not apply it.
Bonsai wrote:
@Timing: We discovered that for the part before Kiai it is indeed to high and 22.185 or even less is probably right for that part, but it seems to change exactly at the first beat of the Kiai, maybe bc of different attack points or whatever, where 01:06:075 is imo the right offset (which is the original timing -1 hehe). Dunno what phaZ is doing in the end tho ^^
Click
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks'
• Change AR to 5 and HP to 3.5.
• 00:42:759 (3) - I dislike this slidershape.
• 01:12:250 (2,3) - Should this be a blanket? Doesn't looke like one, if so.
• 01:28:364 (3,4) - Maybe just start like in the first Kiai?
• 01:34:878 (3) - Sounds very weird honestly.
• 01:40:364 (3,1) - Just no... :<
• 01:44:821 (2,3) - Make a blanket out of it and change (3) somehow. It sounds kinda weird too. You shouldn't variate THAT much in terms of patterns.
• Change AR to 5 and HP to 3.5.
• 00:42:759 (3) - I dislike this slidershape.
• 01:12:250 (2,3) - Should this be a blanket? Doesn't looke like one, if so.
• 01:28:364 (3,4) - Maybe just start like in the first Kiai?
• 01:34:878 (3) - Sounds very weird honestly.
• 01:40:364 (3,1) - Just no... :<
• 01:44:821 (2,3) - Make a blanket out of it and change (3) somehow. It sounds kinda weird too. You shouldn't variate THAT much in terms of patterns.
Click
• It's not a have to, but it wouldn't be too bad if every diff would start at the same point.
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks'
• 00:24:759 (5,1) - This is'nt a perfect blanket. Can't unsee this, sorry. c;
• 01:25:621 (2,4) - CTRL + G (by that I mean change the sliderhead to the other side, not switching those 2 sliders)
• 01:47:564 (2,4) - ^
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks'
• 00:24:759 (5,1) - This is'nt a perfect blanket. Can't unsee this, sorry. c;
• 01:25:621 (2,4) - CTRL + G (by that I mean change the sliderhead to the other side, not switching those 2 sliders)
• 01:47:564 (2,4) - ^
Click
• This is an easier Insane, not a Hyper. Change the diffname please.
• Untick 'Widescreen Support' and 'Letterbox during breaks'
• 00:23:902 (1,2) - Shouldn't it be a "triplet" due the sound? I mean you made one 00:25:273 (1,2,5,6,1) - here, 00:26:988 (3,4,5) - and here etc. And if I'm not mistaken it's literally the same sound / rhythm or however you would call it.
• 00:25:273 (1,2) - ^
• 00:31:615 (5) - Snap it.
• 00:42:759 (1) - Delete this circle and put the start of the spinner here.
• 01:09:678 (6,7) - I'd switch (6) and (7) and put (7) more to the left. If you mapped with distance snap comletely, don't move it. But consider switching these 2 circles. Just flows better because of the slidershape afterwards.
Welp, didn't see it's not finished yet...
• Untick 'Widescreen Support' and 'Letterbox during breaks'
• 00:23:902 (1,2) - Shouldn't it be a "triplet" due the sound? I mean you made one 00:25:273 (1,2,5,6,1) - here, 00:26:988 (3,4,5) - and here etc. And if I'm not mistaken it's literally the same sound / rhythm or however you would call it.
• 00:25:273 (1,2) - ^
• 00:31:615 (5) - Snap it.
• 00:42:759 (1) - Delete this circle and put the start of the spinner here.
• 01:09:678 (6,7) - I'd switch (6) and (7) and put (7) more to the left. If you mapped with distance snap comletely, don't move it. But consider switching these 2 circles. Just flows better because of the slidershape afterwards.
Welp, didn't see it's not finished yet...
Click
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks'
• Remove these _ from drum_and_bass in the tags.
• You know what I said about the start in your other diffs. Consider it, please. c:
• 00:30:931 (3) - Move it somewhere else. It's barely readable.
• 00:54:759 (4) - CTRL + G maybe?
• 01:01:616 (7) - I would use a NC here already instead of 01:01:788 (1) - here because you changed there the jumppattern. (Best explanation ever...)
• 01:07:792 (2,3,4) - Missing hitsound?
• 01:19:621 (3) - Move 3 a bit to the left. Flows better imo.
• 01:42:764 (6,7) - Switch these. Also for a better flow.
• Every diff HAS TO end at the same point. Proof
• Remove these _ from drum_and_bass in the tags.
• You know what I said about the start in your other diffs. Consider it, please. c:
• 00:30:931 (3) - Move it somewhere else. It's barely readable.
• 00:54:759 (4) - CTRL + G maybe?
• 01:01:616 (7) - I would use a NC here already instead of 01:01:788 (1) - here because you changed there the jumppattern. (Best explanation ever...)
• 01:07:792 (2,3,4) - Missing hitsound?
• 01:19:621 (3) - Move 3 a bit to the left. Flows better imo.
• 01:42:764 (6,7) - Switch these. Also for a better flow.
• Every diff HAS TO end at the same point. Proof
GD
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Topic Starter
where is my "quote-button" on the old design
Stjpa wrote:
[General?]
• You have to change the combo colours. Proof hu? actually dont think so. slightly changed the BG's colour[ Moderate
Click• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks' this..
• Change AR to 5 and HP to 3.5. well okay
• 00:42:759 (3) - I dislike this slidershape. more curvy now
• 01:12:250 (2,3) - Should this be a blanket? Doesn't looke like one, if so. it is D: http://puu.sh/kK4zm/ea528afa4b.jpg (i know that it does not apply for the slider-slide but that is on purpose
• 01:28:364 (3,4) - Maybe just start like in the first Kiai? second kiai should be less intense
• 01:34:878 (3) - Sounds very weird honestly. naaaah^^. cant decide by now sry <.<
• 01:40:364 (3,1) - Just no... :< just yeah <:
• 01:44:821 (2,3) - Make a blanket out of it and change (3) somehow. It sounds kinda weird too. You shouldn't variate THAT much in terms of patternshttps://i.ppy.sh/c3b715fe6618d60c265b6c75fe3bc8604bc35974/68747470733a2f2f6f73752e7070792e73682f696d616765732f686172642e706e67[/img:1337] Advanced]
Click• It's not a have to, but it wouldn't be too bad if every diff would start at the same point. i get it, but it feels kinda odd to map the first 4 notes also in the lower diffs, because ds should be somewhat equally to the tranquillity which would then just fuck with newbies minds
• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks' ...
• 00:24:759 (5,1) - This is'nt a perfect blanket. Can't unsee this, sorry. c; move it by like 1x and 1y or sth. not that i care^^
• 01:25:621 (2,4) - CTRL + G (by that I mean change the sliderhead to the other side, not switching those 2 sliders) no, i like it the way it is~
• 01:47:564 (2,4) - ^^[ Bonsai's Hyper
Click• This is an easier Insane, not a Hyper. Change the diffname please. ill change it later tho for a certain reason
• Untick 'Widescreen Support' and 'Letterbox during breaks'
• 00:23:902 (1,2) - Shouldn't it be a "triplet" due the sound? I mean you made one 00:25:273 (1,2,5,6,1) - here, 00:26:988 (3,4,5) - and here etc. And if I'm not mistaken it's literally the same sound / rhythm or however you would call it.
• 00:25:273 (1,2) - ^
• 00:31:615 (5) - Snap it.
• 00:42:759 (1) - Delete this circle and put the start of the spinner here.
• 01:09:678 (6,7) - I'd switch (6) and (7) and put (7) more to the left. If you mapped with distance snap comletely, don't move it. But consider switching these 2 circles. Just flows better because of the slidershape afterwards.
Welp, didn't see it's not finished yet...[ Insane
Clickthanks for mod and GD <3• Untick 'Letterbox during breaks' .
• Remove these _ from drum_and_bass in the tags. removed the tag. who even searches like that..
• You know what I said about the start in your other diffs. Consider it, please. c:
• 00:30:931 (3) - Move it somewhere else. It's barely readable. never thought of that o.o i increased ar by 0.1 instead
• 00:54:759 (4) - CTRL + G maybe? part of the pattern. the sv is also low enough that you dont atually have to follow the slider so it doesnt affect the flow imo
• 01:01:616 (7) - I would use a NC here already instead of 01:01:788 (1) - here because you changed there the jumppattern. (Best explanation ever...) the current NC is nessecary (ask me why if you really want to know). i already considered adding another NC but that looks weird imo. i also dont see a good pattern where i can keep the jump. so if noone else complains about it i propably wont think about changing this
• 01:07:792 (2,3,4) - Missing hitsound? no?
• 01:19:621 (3) - Move 3 a bit to the left. Flows better imo. fixed, but differently
• 01:42:764 (6,7) - Switch these. Also for a better flow. well okay... cant feel any difference
• Every diff HAS TO end at the same point. Proof nooooooo.. but thanks for checking thatGD
.osuthank you!osu file format v14
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Thanks! Didn't see that this set is complete now, sorry for not having finished my diff yet, will do it this weekend, sorry! D:Stjpa wrote:
[ Click• This is an easier Insane, not a Hyper. Change the diffname please. whatever phaZ wants ^^
• Untick 'Widescreen Support' and 'Letterbox during breaks' fixed
• 00:23:902 (1,2) - Shouldn't it be a "triplet" due the sound? I mean you made one 00:25:273 (1,2,5,6,1) - here, 00:26:988 (3,4,5) - and here etc. And if I'm not mistaken it's literally the same sound / rhythm or however you would call it. You're not mistaken, but if I were to map all of those sounds as triplets it would be kinda full of 1/4s since they regularly occur twice every measure, so I'm just ignoring most of them and emphasizing other things instead.
• 00:25:273 (1,2) - ^
• 00:31:615 (5) - Snap it. oh snap
• 00:42:759 (1) - Delete this circle and put the start of the spinner here. uh good idea ^^
• 01:09:678 (6,7) - I'd switch (6) and (7) and put (7) more to the left. If you mapped with distance snap comletely, don't move it. But consider switching these 2 circles. Just flows better because of the slidershape afterwards. I don't think the big angle from (5) to (6) plays well, also it shouldn't affect actual flow in gameplay at all since the next two notes are stacked lol. (maybe I changed that after sending it to phaZ, dunno)
Welp, didn't see it's not finished yet...
#modding queue
You wrote Moderate and Hard in my modding queue, however I can't find a diff called "Hard".
Therefore I just mod a Easy diff as the supplement.
[Easy]
00:25:616 (2,4) - a poor overlapping. For new player, poor overlapping may delay their reaction time. please avoid overlapping.
00:27:673 (1,2) - it is not a good looking for me, I guess the reason is about it is almost overlapping. maybe you can try this: (optional)
00:29:045 - Why suddent break here? I think it is better map it because the music didn't stop, and also this note is not for emphasizing anything.
00:31:616 (2) - slider end at 00:32:130 - . becasue there is the beat sound at here, which is stronger than 00:32:302 - . Stronger beat is easier to follow for new player.
00:33:159 - this beat is for the new part of music, maybe mapping this is better?
00:37:273 (1,2,3,4) - hitting circles is much harder than slider for new players, becasue the need to click more. I suggest changing into slider.
00:44:130 - I don;t know what a break here. This part is not the calm part, I cannot think of a reason that break is suitable.
01:03:330 - this 1/4 sound.... also better not to skip it. maybe could I know why you skip it? 01:04:707 (1,2,3,4) - this is more calm than 01:05:049 (2,3,4) - , if you map that 4 circles, then why not this part?
01:17:735 (2,4) - misleading notes. New players just click when they see a circle/slider. there is a risk that they will mis-read this as 2→4
01:25:278 (5) - nc (you are using 8 beats one nc right? then keep it constant.)
01:25:278 - I don't like why you like to break.... there is STRONG beat sounds.
01:28:021 (1) - a little position suggestion for this slider, optional:
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason.
01:47:221 - it is kiai time right? then why you leave it blanket? in fact breaking problem I have asked you several time, please think twice on it.
[Moderate]
00:22:188 (1) - first blanket. but I prefer this becasue blanket just like a kind of breaking flowing for me. just like the red line in the figure. however, if it is in the middle part, it can form a oval flow. (fig 1) therefore I suggest using this flowing (fig 2)
00:46:873 - I just think this is the new sentence of the song, therefore I think clickable things here is better. Also, you missed this strong sound.
therefore, I suggest the whole sentence is mapped like this: (00:46:873 - )
00:54:245 - in fact I prefer starting the slider 00:54:416 - (1) at here. becasue missing strong beats seems weird.
maybe sth like this: (?)
01:22:535 (1,2) - blanket to obtain better look.
01:25:278 (1) - not suitable spinner, similar pattern 01:00:588 - you didn't use spinner also. You use spinner on the stream part. therefore I think better map with circles and sliders.
01:28:707 - same rhythm with 01:06:764 - why skipping beats this time?
01:28:021 (2) - missing ncs.
01:29:735 - also missing strong beats, just like 01:07:792 - beat, better keep it the same, at least the beats positing.
01:34:878 (3) - missing strong beats at 01:35:221 - , in fact it is the ssame melody as 01:28:021 - .
01:40:707 - ^ also the same.
01:40:364 (3,1) - poor overlapping, the slider (3) is covering the number (I don't know if same situation happen in your computer), but at least the head of the circle. better avoid it.
01:46:192 - again.
01:52:706 (4) - nc
01:58:192 - missing beats, I suggest slider end at here, then the next circle 01:58:364 - can be emphasis a little bit.
Thanks, hope you like my modding.
You wrote Moderate and Hard in my modding queue, however I can't find a diff called "Hard".
Therefore I just mod a Easy diff as the supplement.
[Easy]
00:25:616 (2,4) - a poor overlapping. For new player, poor overlapping may delay their reaction time. please avoid overlapping.
00:27:673 (1,2) - it is not a good looking for me, I guess the reason is about it is almost overlapping. maybe you can try this: (optional)
00:29:045 - Why suddent break here? I think it is better map it because the music didn't stop, and also this note is not for emphasizing anything.
00:31:616 (2) - slider end at 00:32:130 - . becasue there is the beat sound at here, which is stronger than 00:32:302 - . Stronger beat is easier to follow for new player.
00:33:159 - this beat is for the new part of music, maybe mapping this is better?
00:37:273 (1,2,3,4) - hitting circles is much harder than slider for new players, becasue the need to click more. I suggest changing into slider.
00:44:130 - I don;t know what a break here. This part is not the calm part, I cannot think of a reason that break is suitable.
01:03:330 - this 1/4 sound.... also better not to skip it. maybe could I know why you skip it? 01:04:707 (1,2,3,4) - this is more calm than 01:05:049 (2,3,4) - , if you map that 4 circles, then why not this part?
01:17:735 (2,4) - misleading notes. New players just click when they see a circle/slider. there is a risk that they will mis-read this as 2→4
01:25:278 (5) - nc (you are using 8 beats one nc right? then keep it constant.)
01:25:278 - I don't like why you like to break.... there is STRONG beat sounds.
01:28:021 (1) - a little position suggestion for this slider, optional:
SPOILER
01:41:049 (4,1) - I just a little bit worry about this flowing, maybe sth like this? optionalthe notes recently is not a straight line. I don't know if you intend to do it or not.
but then, I think either the pattern and flowing, it is better to make a curve slider (black lines) to form a better flowing (red line)
http://puu.sh/kL33H/f2bbbd1878.jpg
but then, I think either the pattern and flowing, it is better to make a curve slider (black lines) to form a better flowing (red line)
http://puu.sh/kL33H/f2bbbd1878.jpg
SPOILER
01:44:821 (2) - I also suggest curve slider for better flowingyou no need to worry about the mis-read problem here, becasue they are in different color.
new player click also based on the color.
new player click also based on the color.
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason.
01:47:221 - it is kiai time right? then why you leave it blanket? in fact breaking problem I have asked you several time, please think twice on it.
[Moderate]
00:22:188 (1) - first blanket. but I prefer this becasue blanket just like a kind of breaking flowing for me. just like the red line in the figure. however, if it is in the middle part, it can form a oval flow. (fig 1) therefore I suggest using this flowing (fig 2)
00:46:873 - I just think this is the new sentence of the song, therefore I think clickable things here is better. Also, you missed this strong sound.
therefore, I suggest the whole sentence is mapped like this: (00:46:873 - )
00:54:245 - in fact I prefer starting the slider 00:54:416 - (1) at here. becasue missing strong beats seems weird.
maybe sth like this: (?)
01:22:535 (1,2) - blanket to obtain better look.
01:25:278 (1) - not suitable spinner, similar pattern 01:00:588 - you didn't use spinner also. You use spinner on the stream part. therefore I think better map with circles and sliders.
01:28:707 - same rhythm with 01:06:764 - why skipping beats this time?
01:28:021 (2) - missing ncs.
01:29:735 - also missing strong beats, just like 01:07:792 - beat, better keep it the same, at least the beats positing.
01:34:878 (3) - missing strong beats at 01:35:221 - , in fact it is the ssame melody as 01:28:021 - .
01:40:707 - ^ also the same.
01:40:364 (3,1) - poor overlapping, the slider (3) is covering the number (I don't know if same situation happen in your computer), but at least the head of the circle. better avoid it.
01:46:192 - again.
01:52:706 (4) - nc
01:58:192 - missing beats, I suggest slider end at here, then the next circle 01:58:364 - can be emphasis a little bit.
Thanks, hope you like my modding.
Kyle Y
Kyle Y wrote:
#modding queue
You wrote Moderate and Hard in my modding queue, however I can't find a diff called "Hard".
Therefore I just mod a Easy diff as the supplement.
[Easy]
00:25:616 (2,4) - a poor overlapping. For new player, poor overlapping may delay their reaction time. please avoid overlapping. Fixed
00:27:673 (1,2) - it is not a good looking for me, I guess the reason is about it is almost overlapping. maybe you can try this: (optional) Fixed
00:29:045 - Why suddent break here? I think it is better map it because the music didn't stop, and also this note is not for emphasizing anything. Fixed
00:31:616 (2) - slider end at 00:32:130 - . becasue there is the beat sound at here, which is stronger than 00:32:302 - . Stronger beat is easier to follow for new player. Fixed
00:33:159 - this beat is for the new part of music, maybe mapping this is better? I tried
00:37:273 (1,2,3,4) - hitting circles is much harder than slider for new players, becasue the need to click more. I suggest changing into slider. Fixed
00:44:130 - I don;t know what a break here. This part is not the calm part, I cannot think of a reason that break is suitable. It's imo too weird to map. Gonna leave it like it is right now.
01:03:330 - this 1/4 sound.... also better not to skip it. maybe could I know why you skip it? 01:04:707 (1,2,3,4) - this is more calm than 01:05:049 (2,3,4) - , if you map that 4 circles, then why not this part? Because new players need to rest sometimes. I know that this map isn't long at all, but little breaks don't hurt. These 4 circles I mapped build everything after it up. Dunno how to describe it, but it just fits well imo.
01:17:735 (2,4) - misleading notes. New players just click when they see a circle/slider. there is a risk that they will mis-read this as 2→4 Fixed
01:25:278 (5) - nc (you are using 8 beats one nc right? then keep it constant.) My bad. Fixed
01:25:278 - I don't like why you like to break.... there is STRONG beat sounds. Fixed it, shorter break now
01:28:021 (1) - a little position suggestion for this slider, optional:
the notes recently is not a straight line. I don't know if you intend to do it or not.
but then, I think either the pattern and flowing, it is better to make a curve slider (black lines) to form a better flowing (red line) Fixed it a little bit different
01:41:049 (4,1) - I just a little bit worry about this flowing, maybe sth like this? optional
you no need to worry about the mis-read problem here, becasue they are in different color.
new player click also based on the color. I straightened (4) a little bit, flow should be ok then. Worried about it too, but didn't think too much about it actually.
01:44:821 (2) - I also suggest curve slider for better flowing Yup.
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason. I put a spinner there.
01:47:221 - it is kiai time right? then why you leave it blanket? in fact breaking problem I have asked you several time, please think twice on it.
^
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Kyle Y
thank you much!Kyle Y wrote:
#modding queue
You wrote Moderate and Hard in my modding queue, however I can't find a diff called "Hard". diff names changed a few times meanwhile >.<
Therefore I just mod a Easy diff as the supplement.
[Moderate]
00:22:188 (1) - first blanket. but I prefer this becasue blanket just like a kind of breaking flowing for me. just like the red line in the figure. however, if it is in the middle part, it can form a oval flow. (fig 1) therefore I suggest using this flowing (fig 2) done
00:46:873 - I just think this is the new sentence of the song, therefore I think clickable things here is better. Also, you missed this strong sound.
therefore, I suggest the whole sentence is mapped like this: (00:46:873 - ) i konw that this slider end it put "wrong" but 00:50:816 (4,5) here its justified and since this is the same figure as 00:45:330 (5,6) i wanna keep it like that. this sentence 00:47:216 (1,2,3,4) - well... how do i explain - i made something different here
00:54:245 - in fact I prefer starting the slider 00:54:416 - (1) at here. becasue missing strong beats seems weird. fixed it but differently
maybe sth like this: (?)
01:22:535 (1,2) - blanket to obtain better look. done :<
01:25:278 (1) - not suitable spinner, similar pattern 01:00:588 - you didn't use spinner also. You use spinner on the stream part. therefore I think better map with circles and sliders. removed spinner
01:28:707 - same rhythm with 01:06:764 - why skipping beats this time? second kiai should be more calm imo, so just mapped based around the meoldy
01:28:021 (2) - missing ncs. fixed
01:29:735 - also missing strong beats, just like 01:07:792 - beat, better keep it the same, at least the beats positing. the meoldy isnt audible here
01:34:878 (3) - missing strong beats at 01:35:221 - , in fact it is the ssame melody as 01:28:021 - . same reason as ^. slider would become extremely long so i halfed the lenght and add a repeat.. orz the offbeat sounds cool imo D:
01:40:707 - ^ also the same.^
01:40:364 (3,1) - poor overlapping, the slider (3) is covering the number (I don't know if same situation happen in your computer), but at least the head of the circle. better avoid it. i made it so that the number is visible
01:46:192 - again. you can discuss with me ingame if you want to v:
01:52:706 (4) - nc no, as it isnt at 00:24:930 (5). easy/normal = fewer objects but not shorter combo
01:58:192 - missing beats, I suggest slider end at here, then the next circle 01:58:364 - can be emphasis a little bit. as it is missing 01:14:307 - 01:36:249 - 00:30:416 s:
Thanks, hope you like my modding.yes i do
Um.... you can't place a spinner here, causing unrankable due to not enough recovery time.Stjpa wrote:
#modding queue
[Easy]
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason. I put a spinner there.
For Easy diff, 1500ms recovery time is required, or I should say after the spinner, you should keep 4 beats empty.
You sure it's 1500ms? I just heard something with 750ms.Kyle Y wrote:
Um.... you can't place a spinner here, causing unrankable due to not enough recovery time.Stjpa wrote:
#modding queue
[Easy]
01:47:221 (5) - nc, same reason. I put a spinner there.
For Easy diff, 1500ms recovery time is required, or I should say after the spinner, you should keep 4 beats empty.
Mercurial
Stjpa wrote:
You sure it's 1500ms? I just heard something with 750ms.Kyle Y wrote:
Um.... you can't place a spinner here, causing unrankable due to not enough recovery time.
For Easy diff, 1500ms recovery time is required, or I should say after the spinner, you should keep 4 beats empty.
That's more than enough recovery time, that spinner isn't unrankable at all.
Just letting you know, phaZ, I'm modding this mapset this weekend.
diff in a box (get it???)
osu file format v14
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Thought I'd have a lot to say about the Easy, but turns out I didn't update and most of it has been changed after previous mods ^^ some more things though:
- 00:33:502 (4) - NC here and at 00:36:245 (2) instead of 00:35:388 (1) ?
- 00:44:130 - I'd put a circle here since this is what all the previous sliders build up to, leaving it out feels kinda weird imo : \
- 01:03:330 - Leaving this build-up empty doesn't feel good to me - I'd put a 4/1-slider here and delete 01:05:049 (2,3) - Having these four circles in a row doesn't let (4) stand out anyways, which it should imo since it's way more important than the rest
- 01:25:278 (1,2,3) - These are four distinct, equally important beats, mapping the last two with a slider doesn't make sense imo
- 01:26:649 - I'd suggest a slider again ^^
- The Outro: First, make volume and hitsounding similar to the intro, rn it's way too loud lol, guess you forgot it ^^ Second, imo it would fit better to generally map even less beats, to give a stronger contrast to the rest of the map, to really make it feel like an outro instead of just another part of the map. And focus more on a certain rhythm. I'd do it something like this:
Especially 01:59:049 (3) should be four circles since it's again four distinct, equally important beats, and ending on a tail doesn't feel as good as ending on a circle either imo
Bonsai wrote:
Thought I'd have a lot to say about the Easy, but turns out I didn't update and most of it has been changed after previous mods ^^ some more things though:Thanks for the suggestion. I found this part quite hard to map, had literally no ideas. ♥
- 00:33:502 (4) - NC here and at 00:36:245 (2) instead of 00:35:388 (1) ? Jup.
- 00:44:130 - I'd put a circle here since this is what all the previous sliders build up to, leaving it out feels kinda weird imo :\ Aright!
- 01:03:330 - Leaving this build-up empty doesn't feel good to me - I'd put a 4/1-slider here and delete 01:05:049 (2,3) - Having these four circles in a row doesn't let (4) stand out anyways, which it should imo since it's way more important than the rest I tried
- 01:25:278 (1,2,3) - These are four distinct, equally important beats, mapping the last two with a slider doesn't make sense imo Two sliders then
- 01:26:649 - I'd suggest a slider again ^^ I tried
- The Outro: First, make volume and hitsounding similar to the intro, rn it's way too loud lol, guess you forgot it ^^ Second, imo it would fit better to generally map even less beats, to give a stronger contrast to the rest of the map, to really make it feel like an outro instead of just another part of the map. And focus more on a certain rhythm. I'd do it something like this:
Especially 01:59:049 (3) should be four circles since it's again four distinct, equally important beats, and ending on a tail doesn't feel as good as ending on a circle either imo
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M4M from stjpa's queue xj0
[Easy]
00:23:216 (2,3) - Fix DS
00:23:559 (3,4) - ^
00:29:388 (4) - Point upwards to flow better maybe?
00:55:102 (1,2,3) - The way that it is now kinda feels like 1 leads more into 3 than 2, maybe make the flow of 1-2-3 more clear?\
01:07:107 (2,3) - DS fix
01:09:164 (2,3) - Maybe move to the same x axis? (x:208)
01:14:649 (2,3) - ^ (x:240)
01:19:792 (1,2,3) - Maybe make the path from 1-2-3 more clear, it may be confusing for new players since it kinda feels like there's no clear direction to go either to 3 or 2
01:21:849 (4,2) - No overlap pls
01:26:649 (1,1) - Adjust curve to fix overlap?
01:49:964 -
[Moderate]
Fix DS, you need consistent DS throughout the map, there is a change of DS in the kiai compared to the rest of the parts
00:24:759 (4,5) - Fix DS
00:28:873 (3,4,5) - You can't just break DS whenever you feel like it
00:31:616 (4,5) - ^
00:35:730 (3,4) - ^
01:52:535 (4,5) - ^
01:56:649 (3,4,5) - ^
[Insane]
00:25:274 (2,4) - Stack on slider end
00:26:645 (2,3,4) - ^
00:28:016 (2,3) - ^ If this is intentional, then fix 00:23:902 (6,7,8) -
00:32:131 (7,8,9) - ^ it's more of a consistency thing
00:36:245 (2,3,4) - ^
00:38:988 (2,3,4) - ^
00:40:359 (2,3,4) - ^ So it's like a lot of your things are unstacked but there are stacked ones so that's why I point it out
That's all from me, just try to keep things consistent and all o/
[Easy]
00:23:216 (2,3) - Fix DS
00:23:559 (3,4) - ^
00:29:388 (4) - Point upwards to flow better maybe?
00:55:102 (1,2,3) - The way that it is now kinda feels like 1 leads more into 3 than 2, maybe make the flow of 1-2-3 more clear?\
01:07:107 (2,3) - DS fix
01:09:164 (2,3) - Maybe move to the same x axis? (x:208)
01:14:649 (2,3) - ^ (x:240)
01:19:792 (1,2,3) - Maybe make the path from 1-2-3 more clear, it may be confusing for new players since it kinda feels like there's no clear direction to go either to 3 or 2
01:21:849 (4,2) - No overlap pls
01:26:649 (1,1) - Adjust curve to fix overlap?
01:49:964 -
[Moderate]
Fix DS, you need consistent DS throughout the map, there is a change of DS in the kiai compared to the rest of the parts
00:24:759 (4,5) - Fix DS
00:28:873 (3,4,5) - You can't just break DS whenever you feel like it
00:31:616 (4,5) - ^
00:35:730 (3,4) - ^
01:52:535 (4,5) - ^
01:56:649 (3,4,5) - ^
[Insane]
00:25:274 (2,4) - Stack on slider end
00:26:645 (2,3,4) - ^
00:28:016 (2,3) - ^ If this is intentional, then fix 00:23:902 (6,7,8) -
00:32:131 (7,8,9) - ^ it's more of a consistency thing
00:36:245 (2,3,4) - ^
00:38:988 (2,3,4) - ^
00:40:359 (2,3,4) - ^ So it's like a lot of your things are unstacked but there are stacked ones so that's why I point it out
That's all from me, just try to keep things consistent and all o/
Will mod your map later or tomorrow. Thank you. <:Battle wrote:
M4M from stjpa's queue xj0
[Easy]
00:23:216 (2,3) - Fix DS Fixed
00:23:559 (3,4) - ^ ^
00:29:388 (4) - Point upwards to flow better maybe? Fixed
00:55:102 (1,2,3) - The way that it is now kinda feels like 1 leads more into 3 than 2, maybe make the flow of 1-2-3 more clear?\ Fixed
01:07:107 (2,3) - DS fix Fixed
01:09:164 (2,3) - Maybe move to the same x axis? (x:208) No
01:14:649 (2,3) - ^ (x:240) No
01:19:792 (1,2,3) - Maybe make the path from 1-2-3 more clear, it may be confusing for new players since it kinda feels like there's no clear direction to go either to 3 or 2 Fixed
01:21:849 (4,2) - No overlap pls Dunno if there was one, but fixed
01:26:649 (1,1) - Adjust curve to fix overlap? ^
01:49:964 - Fixed
That's all from me, just try to keep things consistent and all o/
M4M op
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Topic Starter
Battle
Battle wrote:
M4M from stjpa's queue xj0
[Easy]
00:23:216 (2,3) - Fix DS
00:23:559 (3,4) - ^
00:29:388 (4) - Point upwards to flow better maybe?
00:55:102 (1,2,3) - The way that it is now kinda feels like 1 leads more into 3 than 2, maybe make the flow of 1-2-3 more clear?\
01:07:107 (2,3) - DS fix
01:09:164 (2,3) - Maybe move to the same x axis? (x:208)
01:14:649 (2,3) - ^ (x:240)
01:19:792 (1,2,3) - Maybe make the path from 1-2-3 more clear, it may be confusing for new players since it kinda feels like there's no clear direction to go either to 3 or 2
01:21:849 (4,2) - No overlap pls
01:26:649 (1,1) - Adjust curve to fix overlap?
01:49:964 -
[Moderate]
Fix DS, you need consistent DS throughout the map, there is a change of DS in the kiai compared to the rest of the parts declined. the overall ds is so low, making it hard to indentify the rhythm. i use 3/2 sliders but but 2/2 gaps and sometimes just 1/2 gaps so it should be clear what rhythm comes next (and yeah noone ever will think it will be 1/4 gabs instead of 1/2). it works well, i asked a ton of newcomers now already
00:24:759 (4,5) - Fix DS
00:28:873 (3,4,5) - You can't just break DS whenever you feel like it
00:31:616 (4,5) - ^
00:35:730 (3,4) - ^
01:52:535 (4,5) - ^
01:56:649 (3,4,5) - ^
[Insane]
00:25:274 (2,4) - Stack on slider end not worth changing ;A; they arent stackable unless i recreate the circle and set them on top of the slider which would have its tail on a decimalvalue for x an y.
00:26:645 (2,3,4) - ^
00:28:016 (2,3) - ^ If this is intentional, then fix 00:23:902 (6,7,8) -
00:32:131 (7,8,9) - ^ it's more of a consistency thing
00:36:245 (2,3,4) - ^
00:38:988 (2,3,4) - ^
00:40:359 (2,3,4) - ^ So it's like a lot of your things are unstacked but there are stacked ones so that's why I point it out
That's all from me, just try to keep things consistent and all o/
Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?
afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
Okoratu wrote:
Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?
afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
I told yaaaaaaaa xD
Okoratu wrote:
Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?
afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
hello
[Stjpa's Easy]
. GL!
[Stjpa's Easy]
- 00:24:588 (4,1) - not a neat blanket
- 01:11:221 (4,1) - ^
- 01:16:707 (4,1) - ^
- 01:29:049 (2,3) - ^, but not even a perfect one
- 01:48:592 (3) - last one should be finish
- 01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - i'd likely to set it into this or [img=http://puu.sh/kTbOP/84822baddb.jpg]this[/img]
- 00:19:446 (1,1) - accidentally set a slider whistle
- 00:45:331 (4,5) - not blanket enough
- 00:47:559 (3) - random slider whistle
- 00:49:274 (7) - how about muting the tail? it will do
. GL!-Hakurei- wrote:
hello
[Stjpa's Easy]lazy to do the other diff, sorry about that
- 00:24:588 (4,1) - not a neat blanket Fixed...
- 01:11:221 (4,1) - ^ Fixed...
- 01:16:707 (4,1) - ^ Fixed...
- 01:29:049 (2,3) - ^, but not even a perfect one People will hate you for going full nazi
- 01:48:592 (3) - last one should be finish Added it.
- 01:58:364 (1,2,3,4) - i'd likely to set it into this or this No.
i blame phaZ for my broken blankets
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Topic Starter
-Hakurei-
thanks for modding!-Hakurei- wrote:
hello
[Insane]lazy to do the other diff, sorry about that
- 00:19:446 (1,1) - accidentally set a slider whistle i dont quite get why o:
- 00:45:331 (4,5) - not blanket enough improved (hopefully enough)
- 00:47:559 (3) - random slider whistle removed on tail
- 00:49:274 (7) - how about muting the tail? it will do well ok
it is my own cut. still i wanna have an actual reason why it is needed to remove it from the title and not sth like "x did it like that and he got it ranked".Okoratu wrote:
Is this some kind of official cut or why is Cut Ver. in the title?
afaik you can tag that but not even that is mandatory and pishifat would need to rename like 70% of his ranked maps if that was the case otherwise i don't see any reason to have it in the title
my thoughts on this are that if someone searches for the song he should be aware (at least i wish i could be) that it is cut and not the full song. it has to stand in the title so it is visible in the beatmap listing since tags are not shown. i actually doubt that anyone whould search for the tag "cut (version)" anyway.. i mean why would i?
i would rather keep it like that unless it becomes a ranking criteria
Topic Starter
quick easy mod from my side :v
diffculty lacks at least one spinner to prevent 10trillion rank #1's
00:33:502 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 00:22:188 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - both should have the same rhythms since it is a repetition. different objects for same things = not logic at all.
00:44:130 (2) - why no NC? this note does not belong to the slider
01:03:330 (1) - nc (every 4th measure)
01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - same objects on not quite the same melody. make variations! as example, 01:08:821 (1,2) - swap circle and repeat-slider because the music does same things at 01:08:821 to 01:09:421 and at 01:10:192 to 01:10:792
01:17:049 (1,2,3,4,5) - should be repeat-slider + circle + 2x slider simliar to 01:06:078 (1,2,3,4) - 01:11:564 (1,2,3,4)
01:19:792 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same
01:30:764 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:25:278 (1) - nc as you did at 01:47:221 (1)
01:26:649 (1) - nc?
01:28:021 (1,2,3,4) - 01:33:507 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same
01:38:992 (1,2,3,4) - 01:44:478 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - 01:36:249 (1,2,3,4,5) - make same rhythms?
01:48:592 (3) - make same rhythm (and combo) like at 01:26:649 (1)
01:50:821 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - use same rhythm like at the beginning!
diffculty lacks at least one spinner to prevent 10trillion rank #1's
00:33:502 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 00:22:188 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - both should have the same rhythms since it is a repetition. different objects for same things = not logic at all.
00:44:130 (2) - why no NC? this note does not belong to the slider
01:03:330 (1) - nc (every 4th measure)
01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - same objects on not quite the same melody. make variations! as example, 01:08:821 (1,2) - swap circle and repeat-slider because the music does same things at 01:08:821 to 01:09:421 and at 01:10:192 to 01:10:792
01:17:049 (1,2,3,4,5) - should be repeat-slider + circle + 2x slider simliar to 01:06:078 (1,2,3,4) - 01:11:564 (1,2,3,4)
01:19:792 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same
01:30:764 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:25:278 (1) - nc as you did at 01:47:221 (1)
01:26:649 (1) - nc?
01:28:021 (1,2,3,4) - 01:33:507 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same
01:38:992 (1,2,3,4) - 01:44:478 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - 01:36:249 (1,2,3,4,5) - make same rhythms?
01:48:592 (3) - make same rhythm (and combo) like at 01:26:649 (1)
01:50:821 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - use same rhythm like at the beginning!
phaZ wrote:
quick easy mod from my side :v
diffculty lacks at least one spinner to prevent 10trillion rank #1's Where?!
00:33:502 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - 00:22:188 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - both should have the same rhythms since it is a repetition. different objects for same things = not logic at all. Not the same at all for me.
00:44:130 (2) - why no NC? this note does not belong to the slider Mb. Fixed.
01:03:330 (1) - nc (every 4th measure) Fixed.
01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - same objects on not quite the same melody. make variations! as example, 01:08:821 (1,2) - swap circle and repeat-slider because the music does same things at 01:08:821 to 01:09:421 and at 01:10:192 to 01:10:792 Fixed I guess.
01:17:049 (1,2,3,4,5) - should be repeat-slider + circle + 2x slider simliar to 01:06:078 (1,2,3,4) - 01:11:564 (1,2,3,4) Fixed.
01:19:792 (1,2,3,4) - 01:08:821 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same Fixed.
01:30:764 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:25:278 (1) - nc as you did at 01:47:221 (1) Ye.
01:26:649 (1) - nc? Jup.
01:28:021 (1,2,3,4) - 01:33:507 (1,2,3,4) - should be the same Fixed.
01:38:992 (1,2,3,4) - 01:44:478 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:14:307 (1,2,3,4) - 01:36:249 (1,2,3,4,5) - make same rhythms? ^
01:48:592 (3) - make same rhythm (and combo) like at 01:26:649 (1) This shouldn't be a problem.
01:50:821 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - use same rhythm like at the beginning! Cmon, some variety at the end shouldn't be a problem at all. This map is already repetetive af, so I don't see a problem here.
don't forget to hitsound it
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Tiny mod
[Easy]
00:29:388 (4,1,2) - Why doesn't this part have clicky hitsounds?
[Normal]
00:51:845 (6,1) - I think these don't connect so well, as the time between 6-1 is shorter than 1-2, makes the transition weird.
01:13:278 (3,4,1) - Kinda the same here, just doesn't work well.
[Insane]
00:18:074 (1) - Not sure if intended but this one has no sliderslide sound and on 00:20:817 (1) - it stops halfway
00:56:302 (6,1) - 00:59:045 (6,1) - The sudden jump break feels weird to me, either stack those, or flip move them sliders to the other side
00:45:845 (5) - Clap missing on slider head?
Very nice hitsounding here (●´ω｀●)b
[Easy]
00:29:388 (4,1,2) - Why doesn't this part have clicky hitsounds?
[Normal]
00:51:845 (6,1) - I think these don't connect so well, as the time between 6-1 is shorter than 1-2, makes the transition weird.
01:13:278 (3,4,1) - Kinda the same here, just doesn't work well.
[Insane]
00:18:074 (1) - Not sure if intended but this one has no sliderslide sound and on 00:20:817 (1) - it stops halfway
00:56:302 (6,1) - 00:59:045 (6,1) - The sudden jump break feels weird to me, either stack those, or flip move them sliders to the other side
00:45:845 (5) - Clap missing on slider head?
Very nice hitsounding here (●´ω｀●)b
Topic Starter
Tenderz
thanks for mod!Tenderz wrote:
Tiny mod
[Easy]
00:29:388 (4,1,2) - Why doesn't this part have clicky hitsounds? forgot
[Normal]
00:51:845 (6,1) - I think these don't connect so well, as the time between 6-1 is shorter than 1-2, makes the transition weird. i think following the melody is more important than following non existent downbeats here^^
01:13:278 (3,4,1) - Kinda the same here, just doesn't work well.^
[Insane]
00:18:074 (1) - Not sure if intended but this one has no sliderslide sound and on 00:20:817 (1) - it stops halfway ahh someone noticed^^ nah this is intentional. im using a different sliderslide-sound when the deep noise is audible
00:56:302 (6,1) - 00:59:045 (6,1) - The sudden jump break feels weird to me, either stack those, or flip move them sliders to the other side hmm not nessecary imo. i will change that if it should be troublesome somewhen else tho
00:45:845 (5) - Clap missing on slider head? yes, thx!
Very nice hitsounding here (●´ω｀●)b :3
i changed a timeline snapping issue in all diffs, too.
General:
Inconsistent Volume Setting
Combo Usage
Spacing
Inaudible Hitsound
Inaudible Hitsound
Inconsistent Volume Setting
- 00:22:188 - 01:06:078 - To avoid potential issues, please fix the inconsistent volume such as this.
Combo Usage
- 00:38:645 (1,1,1,1) - Using every slider with a new combo lacked in forming a structure.
- 01:48:592 (1,1,2) - The rhythm transition between (1,1) was tricky for beginners to catch up. Removing 01:50:821 (1) is recommended.
Spacing
- Places where you could improve distance snap.
- 00:34:359 (2,3) -
- 00:41:388 (1,2,3) -
- 00:53:559 (4,1) - This is forming a 1/2 jump which doesn't suit the overall difficulty.
- 01:40:364 (3,1) - Low readability due to slider path of (1) being covered by (3).
Inaudible Hitsound
- 00:16:703 (1,2,3,4) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%.
- 01:00:759 - Your rhythm concept here was pretty much consistent since 00:55:102 - by following the major instruments. However since a new drum beat starts appearing since 01:00:588 - ignoring the major beat of 01:00:759 - wasn't appropriate enough.
Inaudible Hitsound
- 00:16:703 (1,1,1,1) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%. If you do not plan a fix, then please note that 00:17:388 - has an inconsistent volume setting.
- The following jumps were exaggerated and forms an unnatural flow. Having a higher jump than 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - where the music is more intensed also lacked in placement logic.
- 01:00:759 (2,3) -
- 01:01:102 (4,5) -
- 01:01:445 (6,7) -
Whoohoo I got a mod too \:D/
Sonnyc wrote:
Bonsai's Insane:
Inaudible HitsoundRhythm
- 00:16:703 (1,2,3,4) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%. I'd be fine with that, whatever phaZ does for consistency ^^
- 01:00:759 - Your rhythm concept here was pretty much consistent since 00:55:102 - by following the major instruments. However since a new drum beat starts appearing since 01:00:588 - ignoring the major beat of 01:00:759 - wasn't appropriate enough. true, thanks
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Oh btw since you've mentioned this song was cutted by yourself,
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/88299 This case of my map is also unrankable considering that RC.
I definitely support the idea of adding such markers, but rules are rules and several arguements with logical reasons have got denied with the logic of "only use officially provided metadata".
For this case, (Cut Ver.) should be removed and go to the tags.
Do not alter the song's title. This includes adding any marker to describe the cut of the song such as "Short Ver.", "TV Size" and so forth unless those markers are part of the official song title as listed by a reputable source.
This RC includes the case for adding an additional "Cut Ver." marker.https://osu.ppy.sh/s/88299 This case of my map is also unrankable considering that RC.
I definitely support the idea of adding such markers, but rules are rules and several arguements with logical reasons have got denied with the logic of "only use officially provided metadata".
For this case, (Cut Ver.) should be removed and go to the tags.
Topic Starter
Sonnyc
thanks for the mod!Sonnyc wrote:
General:
Inconsistent Volume SettingNormal:
- 00:22:188 - 01:06:078 - To avoid potential issues, please fix the inconsistent volume such as this.fixed
Spacing
- Places where you could improve distance snap. both accidently, thanks
Inappropriate Pattern
- 00:34:359 (2,3) -
- 00:41:388 (1,2,3) -
Pattern Readability
- 00:53:559 (4,1) - This is forming a 1/2 jump which doesn't suit the overall difficulty.temporarly removed, i just cant find any pleasant pattern :<
- 01:40:364 (3,1) - Low readability due to slider path of (1) being covered by (3). well this is definitvely readable
Insane:
Inaudible HitsoundInappropriate Jumps
- 00:16:703 (1,1,1,1) - The setted volume is too low to hear. Please set to at least 15%. If you do not plan a fix, then please note that 00:17:388 - has an inconsistent volume setting. fixed
- The following jumps were exaggerated and forms an unnatural flow. Having a higher jump than 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - where the music is more intensed also lacked in placement logic.
- 01:00:759 (2,3) -
- 01:01:102 (4,5) -
- 01:01:445 (6,7) - lowered the overall ds and increased ds for 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - but also added another jump
thanks for that, i will move "cut" to the tags then... ripSonnyc wrote:
Oh btw since you've mentioned this song was cutted by yourself,Do not alter the song's title. This includes adding any marker to describe the cut of the song such as "Short Ver.", "TV Size" and so forth unless those markers are part of the official song title as listed by a reputable source.This RC includes the case for adding an additional "Cut Ver." marker.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/88299 This case of my map is also unrankable considering that RC.
I definitely support the idea of adding such markers, but rules are rules and several arguements with logical reasons have got denied with the logic of "only use officially provided metadata".
For this case, (Cut Ver.) should be removed and go to the tags.
Sonnyc wrote:
Stjpa's Easy:
Combo UsageFixed, I guess.
- 00:38:645 (1,1,1,1) - Using every slider with a new combo lacked in forming a structure.
RhythmFixed.
- 01:48:592 (1,1,2) - The rhythm transition between (1,1) was tricky for beginners to catch up. Removing 01:50:821 (1) is recommended.
gooby pls
osu file format v14
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AMAZING I love it!
Keep up the good work. I hope to be able to map as well as you one day!
~Luvovi
Topic Starter
o3oLuvovi wrote:
:) AMAZING
I love it!
Keep up the good work. I hope to be able to map as well as you one day!
~Luvovi
the
normalslidertick3 is unused
softclap is also needs to be at least 100ms because of some error with sound cards https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... itclap.wav
tbh using 175bpm from the beginning makes sense. the same melody as when you begin the 175bpm thing is playing there, it's just that there's no drum beat and it's ~atmospheric~. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/354792 is like the same. i assume you know how to get sub .5x sv
easy
so you're following the basic white tick drum beat starting from the beginning, then you switch to that other instrument starting at 00:30:588 (1) - . there's no real musical cue to switch so i'm not really getting it. if anything it would make sense to follow that non-white-tick instrument starting from the beginning, since that's what you follow at the end too
01:53:049 (1,2) - that instrument thing is prioritizing white ticks here so this red tick stuff isn't all that fitting. 00:36:245 (1,2,3) - does it right
00:32:645 (3,2) - 01:12:935 (3,2) - super minor but getting rid of the overlapz = cleaner. works well since the rest of the diff is p clean
while it's rankable, constant 1/1 spam is pretty frowned upon on easies since it's like there's no break points. including 2/1 sliders or 2/1 gaps is the way to avoid that. in the end it works though, so it's up to you
normal
the idea is cool but might be overdoing the tiny 1/2 spacing during the intro and outro bits. using different spacing for 1/2 is fine, but like when it's half the size of the next sections 1/2 spacing, it could be too tiny. using 1x would work
insane
00:30:931 (3) - could you not put a circle on top of a reverse? that's kinda not allowed cuz of how hitbursts/hitlighting cover it zz
tehre are a billion different placement options so im sure you can think of something
if you change those and need someone to rank, you know what to do
normalslidertick3 is unused
softclap is also needs to be at least 100ms because of some error with sound cards https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... itclap.wav
tbh using 175bpm from the beginning makes sense. the same melody as when you begin the 175bpm thing is playing there, it's just that there's no drum beat and it's ~atmospheric~. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/354792 is like the same. i assume you know how to get sub .5x sv
easy
so you're following the basic white tick drum beat starting from the beginning, then you switch to that other instrument starting at 00:30:588 (1) - . there's no real musical cue to switch so i'm not really getting it. if anything it would make sense to follow that non-white-tick instrument starting from the beginning, since that's what you follow at the end too
01:53:049 (1,2) - that instrument thing is prioritizing white ticks here so this red tick stuff isn't all that fitting. 00:36:245 (1,2,3) - does it right
00:32:645 (3,2) - 01:12:935 (3,2) - super minor but getting rid of the overlapz = cleaner. works well since the rest of the diff is p clean
while it's rankable, constant 1/1 spam is pretty frowned upon on easies since it's like there's no break points. including 2/1 sliders or 2/1 gaps is the way to avoid that. in the end it works though, so it's up to you
normal
the idea is cool but might be overdoing the tiny 1/2 spacing during the intro and outro bits. using different spacing for 1/2 is fine, but like when it's half the size of the next sections 1/2 spacing, it could be too tiny. using 1x would work
insane
00:30:931 (3) - could you not put a circle on top of a reverse? that's kinda not allowed cuz of how hitbursts/hitlighting cover it zz
tehre are a billion different placement options so im sure you can think of something
if you change those and need someone to rank, you know what to do
Topic Starter
pishifat
updated timing on all diffs. also renamed:pishifat wrote:
the
normalslidertick3 is unused forgot to delete
softclap is also needs to be at least 100ms because of some error with sound cards https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/751 ... itclap.wav thx, added
tbh using 175bpm from the beginning makes sense. the same melody as when you begin the 175bpm thing is playing there, it's just that there's no drum beat and it's ~atmospheric~. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/354792 is like the same. i assume you know how to get sub .5x sv yea, done
normal
the idea is cool but might be overdoing the tiny 1/2 spacing during the intro and outro bits. using different spacing for 1/2 is fine, but like when it's half the size of the next sections 1/2 spacing, it could be too tiny. using 1x would work done
insane
00:30:931 (3) - could you not put a circle on top of a reverse? that's kinda not allowed cuz of how hitbursts/hitlighting cover it zz
tehre are a billion different placement options so im sure you can think of something well, fixed~
if you change those and need someone to rank, you know what to do
Light Insane -> Insane
Insane -> Extra
pishifat wrote:
easy
so you're following the basic white tick drum beat starting from the beginning, then you switch to that other instrument starting at 00:30:588 (1) - . there's no real musical cue to switch so i'm not really getting it. if anything it would make sense to follow that non-white-tick instrument starting from the beginning, since that's what you follow at the end too Fixed
01:53:049 (1,2) - that instrument thing is prioritizing white ticks here so this red tick stuff isn't all that fitting. 00:36:245 (1,2,3) - does it right I don't even remember if I fixed it now or not. Sleepless nights and stuff..but yeah, it should be fixed actually.
00:32:645 (3,2) - 01:12:935 (3,2) - super minor but getting rid of the overlapz = cleaner. works well since the rest of the diff is p clean Fixed
while it's rankable, constant 1/1 spam is pretty frowned upon on easies since it's like there's no break points. including 2/1 sliders or 2/1 gaps is the way to avoid that. in the end it works though, so it's up to you Gonna leave it like this
Just a quick check on Extra before this gets bubbled. Didn't get to the other diffs yet~
[Extra]
01:00:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is very exaggerated. The music is much less intense than in the following sections, so there shouldn't be the hardest pattern in the whole map at this point. Sure, a circlejump pattern belongs here, but the distances shouldn't be that big for the reason I just mentioned.
Also, since the instrument you are following is the same all the time, the distances should be relatively equal all the time, too. Therefore 01:00:588 (1,2,3,4) - these antijumps don't really make sense.
01:03:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This definitely needs to be toned down, 1/4-kicksliders still play much harder than 1/2-circles so this part of the pattern feels even more exaggerated than the rest.
01:25:278 (1,2,3,4) - There is no way to guess that these just have 1/4-gaps in between them. They look like single-repeats at the moment, because the spacing is visually similar to 1/2-spacing used before. I'd recommend you to use a lower spacing so that is more clear.
(These are done much better 01:47:221 (1,2,3,4) - )
[Extra]
01:00:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is very exaggerated. The music is much less intense than in the following sections, so there shouldn't be the hardest pattern in the whole map at this point. Sure, a circlejump pattern belongs here, but the distances shouldn't be that big for the reason I just mentioned.
Also, since the instrument you are following is the same all the time, the distances should be relatively equal all the time, too. Therefore 01:00:588 (1,2,3,4) - these antijumps don't really make sense.
01:03:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This definitely needs to be toned down, 1/4-kicksliders still play much harder than 1/2-circles so this part of the pattern feels even more exaggerated than the rest.
01:25:278 (1,2,3,4) - There is no way to guess that these just have 1/4-gaps in between them. They look like single-repeats at the moment, because the spacing is visually similar to 1/2-spacing used before. I'd recommend you to use a lower spacing so that is more clear.
(These are done much better 01:47:221 (1,2,3,4) - )
Topic Starter
Desperate-kun
removing the old timing point led to random 1ms-snapping issues in all diffs. i took the the right to fix them on my ownDesperate-kun wrote:
Just a quick check on Extra before this gets bubbled. Didn't get to the other diffs yet~
[Extra]
01:00:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is very exaggerated. The music is much less intense than in the following sections, so there shouldn't be the hardest pattern in the whole map at this point. Sure, a circlejump pattern belongs here, but the distances shouldn't be that big for the reason I just mentioned. would lower it if i lower the kickslider-jumps
Also, since the instrument you are following is the same all the time, the distances should be relatively equal all the time, too. Therefore 01:00:588 (1,2,3,4) - these antijumps don't really make sense. the patttern is indeed flawed. jump-antijumps are used the same way as the NC's are used for 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - but i want to keep it like that. the difference between those two parts is, that one is still more a real melody, while the other is more imitating a rhythm.
01:03:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This definitely needs to be toned down, 1/4-kicksliders still play much harder than 1/2-circles so this part of the pattern feels even more exaggerated than the rest. nah, i would rather make the kiai harder, which is a bit troublesome because of the way i lead from one pattern into the next one~. also i personally dont think that slider jumps are really that much harder than circle jumps as long the flow stays the same for all kickslider-jumps which is the case here. i tried to nerf the spacing by reducing the turn angle which worsened the flow making it actually harder
01:25:278 (1,2,3,4) - There is no way to guess that these just have 1/4-gaps in between them. They look like single-repeats at the moment, because the spacing is visually similar to 1/2-spacing used before. I'd recommend you to use a lower spacing so that is more clear.
(These are done much better 01:47:221 (1,2,3,4) - ) i get the "issue". but even if i singletap them similiar to an 1/2-lengthened-slider i almost never get 100's. then while playing the first one, you already know that these are 1/4-jumps. also think that reading issues getting less problematic the shorter a map is. it should get even more difficult to create more different scores
[Stjpa's Easy]
00:24:417 (4) - I don't recommend you to use 1/2-repeats in this difficulty, at all. The SV and spacing are very low so the start and ending overlap a lot, from my experience kicksliders like this confuse newbies a lot. It would be better replacing them with 1/1-sliders, or even better, try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/l9x8T/a9e930f4fe.jpg The same applies for the others in this section, as well as the ones at the end of the map.
01:06:078 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - In this section (and basically the rest of the kiai) it's all just 1/1-rhythms. It will be very uninteresting to play for the newbies, offering no variation in rhythm. I would highly recommend you to add some variation by using clever 2/1-rhythms. For example some good places for 2/1-sliders would be:
01:09:163 to 01:09:849 - (since 01:09:506 - is of no importance)
01:20:135 to 01:20:820 - (same reason)
and so on..
Yeah, basically I think the Easy needs some work to become high-quality. I also think the patterns in Extra that I mentioned are serious issues, oh well, your decision after all.
00:24:417 (4) - I don't recommend you to use 1/2-repeats in this difficulty, at all. The SV and spacing are very low so the start and ending overlap a lot, from my experience kicksliders like this confuse newbies a lot. It would be better replacing them with 1/1-sliders, or even better, try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/l9x8T/a9e930f4fe.jpg The same applies for the others in this section, as well as the ones at the end of the map.
01:06:078 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - In this section (and basically the rest of the kiai) it's all just 1/1-rhythms. It will be very uninteresting to play for the newbies, offering no variation in rhythm. I would highly recommend you to add some variation by using clever 2/1-rhythms. For example some good places for 2/1-sliders would be:
01:09:163 to 01:09:849 - (since 01:09:506 - is of no importance)
01:20:135 to 01:20:820 - (same reason)
and so on..
Yeah, basically I think the Easy needs some work to become high-quality. I also think the patterns in Extra that I mentioned are serious issues, oh well, your decision after all.
Desperate-kun wrote:
[Stjpa's Easy]
00:24:417 (4) - I don't recommend you to use 1/2-repeats in this difficulty, at all. The SV and spacing are very low so the start and ending overlap a lot, from my experience kicksliders like this confuse newbies a lot. It would be better replacing them with 1/1-sliders, or even better, try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/l9x8T/a9e930f4fe.jpg The same applies for the others in this section, as well as the ones at the end of the map. Tbh I don't think these 1/2-repeat sliders are / were a problem at all. There are enough Easy's with these sliders, that's why I also decided to use some here. However, your suggestion is actually really nice and I used it here.
01:06:078 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - In this section (and basically the rest of the kiai) it's all just 1/1-rhythms. It will be very uninteresting to play for the newbies, offering no variation in rhythm. I would highly recommend you to add some variation by using clever 2/1-rhythms. For example some good places for 2/1-sliders would be:
01:09:163 to 01:09:849 - (since 01:09:506 - is of no importance)
01:20:135 to 01:20:820 - (same reason)
and so on.. Applied. This map isn't long at all, so I didn't see a problem here. But it's not really much work to do so I also changed it now. Thanks for checking. ♥
Yeah, basically I think the Easy needs some work to become high-quality. I don't really map anything at the moment, so getting some experience except from modding etc. is hard lol I also think the patterns in Extra that I mentioned are serious issues, oh well, your decision after all Imo these jumps are not too huge at all, and these anti-jumps also fit very well. I just don't like the way he placed the kicksliders, but I'm really strange anyway when it comes to pattern or however I should call it.
why did this diff get harder by 0,01 with easier patterning lol
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As I said, 1/2-sliders CAN be fine in Easy, it depends on how they are used and on the general setting of the difficulty. They definitely don't work well together with low Slider Velocity and Spacing, because they look cramped. From what I have experienced, the newbies will be confused after playing sliders like that, so if they really need to be used in a low SV Easy like this, they should be used with enough of recovery time after, which means ATLEAST 2/1 of a gap.Stjpa wrote:
Tbh I don't think these 1/2-repeat sliders are / were a problem at all. There are enough Easy's with these sliders, that's why I also decided to use some here. However, your suggestion is actually really nice and I used it here.
Also, the rest of the diffs looked fine for me, I just wanted to point some things out (so yeah, I'm done modding at this point).
Desperate please. "No way to guess". No way I would guess these are single repeat sliders.Desperate-kun wrote:
01:25:278 (1,2,3,4) - There is no way to guess that these just have 1/4-gaps in between them. They look like single-repeats at the moment, because the spacing is visually similar to 1/2-spacing used before. I'd recommend you to use a lower spacing so that is more clear.
(These are done much better 01:47:221 (1,2,3,4) - )
Well, I misread it and I'm sure other players will too. Of course it depends on what you expect when playing a map.
It only makes sense to me to expect 1/2-gaps, because the 1/4-spacing is visually the same as the 1/2-spacing that was used before. And as I said, the second pattern is using high spacing too, but it's much more intuitive due to its structure.
But the pattern is alright, no need to worry. The main issue is still the giant jump pattern before the kiai.
It only makes sense to me to expect 1/2-gaps, because the 1/4-spacing is visually the same as the 1/2-spacing that was used before. And as I said, the second pattern is using high spacing too, but it's much more intuitive due to its structure.
But the pattern is alright, no need to worry. The main issue is still the giant jump pattern before the kiai.
Topic Starter
i asked multiple people for testplays about these jumps now and after i increased the ds of the section before and afterwards i think there shouldnt be any issues with them anymore.Desperate-kun wrote:
Well, I misread it and I'm sure other players will too. Of course it depends on what you expect when playing a map.
It only makes sense to me to expect 1/2-gaps, because the 1/4-spacing is visually the same as the 1/2-spacing that was used before. And as I said, the second pattern is using high spacing too, but it's much more intuitive due to its structure.
But the pattern is alright, no need to worry. The main issue is still the giant jump pattern before the kiai.
for the 1/4-spaced repeats i can say that they are fine as they are since the people ive asked werent even considering that these could be anything else but 4/4-repeats. apparently it is even visibly indicated by the followpoints (otherwise both tracks of the followpoints would be perfectly stacked)
opinion
Actually fuck this. Sjpa is going to annoy about everyone about this so here i go
[general]
[bonsai]
[hard]
the consistent 1/1 breaks in kiai don't add anything to the map for me, they more take away some of the fun because i and probably many other people are xpecting kiai to be actually more intense so starting it off with 1/1 slider and followd by 1/1 break is 1/10 anticlimax ):
tbh it doesn't really need these, so if you agree it'd be nice to have some circles or whatever added
[normal]
01:13:278 (3,4) - 01:29:393 (3,4) - 01:34:878 (3,4) - 01:40:364 (3,4) - the way some of these have different lengths and stuff can probably throw people off in the reading department leading to weird derps, i'd go for sliders that leave 1/1 breaks instead of 1/2 to the next objects to make these things easier to understand but eh i guess that's optional and not always optimal, just an idea though since i don't really have any fundamentally better ideas right now
[stjpa]
hype anymore and you're gonna explode
[general]
- hard and extra seem to contain a few 1ms unsnaps or something
- easy should delete 01:06:078 - this green line cuz RC or something
- and it saves a whopping 2.4 bytes filesize xd
- normal-slidertick3 is still there and i just redld.
(basing shit off extra cuz yea most objects most hitsounds logic stuff thnigns) - 00:18:074 (1) - has no sliderwhistles while the 2 ones surrounding it have, intentional?
- 00:21:503 - for some reason the sliderwhistle turns into a sliderslide here and idk why but it happens o.o
- 00:49:274 (7) - 01:00:245 (5) - this is dumb to have, you have the 1/2 sounds right there, they aren't even much different than 00:46:531 (7) - or any other thing there, idk having them doesn't make much sense imo as idk what holding a note over a clear 1/2 sound gives you
- 00:54:245 (1,2,3) - i think that custom stack is uneven lol
- 00:56:302 (6,1) - 00:59:045 (6,1) - i wouldn't go for linear transitions in these cases, they're quite unexpected and probably continuing the back/forth motion of that pattern, but with a bit more spacing or something would be more straight-forward instead of breaking the complete pattern intentionally, but that might just be my bias towards not breaking patterns completely
- 01:00:588 (1,2,3,4) - 01:01:102 (4,5,6,7) - the difference between those 2 is way too drastic because they're trying to represent the same kind of drum buildup i suppose but the first 2 pairs are antijumps and the 2nd are regular zig-zag jumps, i'd either go for zig zag all the way or antijumps all the way as mixing both makes less sense imo lol
- 01:03:331 (1) - if this would... continue the triangle motion you had for 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - it would be like a lot easier to catch because that's where you'd expect it to actually be ?_?
- 01:04:360 (7,8) - these last 2 ones feel like you ran a bit out of space where stuff looks like a clean pattern and just did "something" dunno maybe maybe you get what i mean or not
it played fine first attempt but any following attempts lead to me panick-sliderbreaking them suggesting that im just a bit tired - 01:26:906 (4,1) - 01:27:421 (6,1) - 01:48:849 (4,1) - 01:49:364 (6,1) - seem to be intentional and stuff nonetheless they don't really look that nice when playing the stream, are you like sure you don't want to do anything about these lol
- 01:52:192 (1,2) - combostuff like is stuff i don't 100% understand but since there's a very clear system behind combos im sure this one has a reason too
[bonsai]
- lol the break looks 300% lazy hahaha
- 00:41:559 (2) - nc to keep your one object combos in line
- 01:01:788 (1,2) - worst buildup ever lol, the drums are like 200% more dominant anyways so mapping the melody feels kinda out of place here :/
- 01:43:707 (3,4) - nerv pls? all other 1/4 jumps you have are smaller :/
[hard]
the consistent 1/1 breaks in kiai don't add anything to the map for me, they more take away some of the fun because i and probably many other people are xpecting kiai to be actually more intense so starting it off with 1/1 slider and followd by 1/1 break is 1/10 anticlimax ):
tbh it doesn't really need these, so if you agree it'd be nice to have some circles or whatever added
[normal]
01:13:278 (3,4) - 01:29:393 (3,4) - 01:34:878 (3,4) - 01:40:364 (3,4) - the way some of these have different lengths and stuff can probably throw people off in the reading department leading to weird derps, i'd go for sliders that leave 1/1 breaks instead of 1/2 to the next objects to make these things easier to understand but eh i guess that's optional and not always optimal, just an idea though since i don't really have any fundamentally better ideas right now
[stjpa]
hype anymore and you're gonna explode
- idk beginning and end follow melody and rest follows drums
drums = easier to predict than melody in beginning/end
-> Kiai is easier to comprehend than beginning and end
is that your intention? otherwise searching for ways to either follow instruments instead of melody in that part is like the only option that doesn't take a ton of mods, so consider this carefully - do you care about blankets in any way, because things like 01:33:507 (1) - 01:23:907 (3) - are either off by a bit or look dumb because blankets this close look dumb imo xd
01:43:107 (4,5) - is this supposed to be symmetrical or something because it kinda isnt - don't explode
Thanks for modding tho, wasn't expecting it actually.Okoratu wrote:
Actually fuck this. Stjpa is going to annoy about everyone about this so here i go call me mememay
[stjpa]
hype anymore and you're gonna explode
- idk beginning and end follow melody and rest follows drums
drums = easier to predict than melody in beginning/end
-> Kiai is easier to comprehend than beginning and end
is that your intention? otherwise searching for ways to either follow instruments instead of melody in that part is like the only option that doesn't take a ton of mods, so consider this carefully Mapping the start and beginning with 1/1 would just be hella weird, obviously. I don't want to change the parts where I mapped to the drums, it's just feels better like this imo. However, we'll see the outcome anyway when this map gets further. I don't see a problem here since this Easy is a little bit harder than usual Easy's since I don't have any breaks and also not many 2/1 sliders. And yes, it was intentional.- do you care about blankets in any way, because things like 01:33:507 (1) - 01:23:907 (3) - are either off by a bit or look dumb because blankets this close look dumb imo xd Changed the 1:33 one, straightened 1:23.
01:43:107 (4,5) - is this supposed to be symmetrical or something because it kinda isnt Fixed.- don't explode But I'm an indestructible living bomb. :v
my name is sjpa now
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Topic Starter
@Stjpa: fixed hitsoundingOkoratu wrote:
opinionActually fuck this. Sjpa is going to annoy about everyone about this so here i go
[general][hitsounds]
- hard and extra seem to contain a few 1ms unsnaps or something
- easy should delete 01:06:078 - this green line cuz RC or something
- and it saves a whopping 2.4 bytes filesize xd
[Extra]
- normal-slidertick3 is still there and i just redld. i rembember having this deleted once already D:
(basing shit off extra cuz yea most objects most hitsounds logic stuff thnigns)- 00:18:074 (1) - has no sliderwhistles while the 2 ones surrounding it have, intentional? indeed intentional
- 00:21:503 - for some reason the sliderwhistle turns into a sliderslide here and idk why but it happens o.o ^
all of this is ultra-subjective so do whatever makes more sense to you :p
- 00:49:274 (7) - 01:00:245 (5) - this is dumb to have, you have the 1/2 sounds right there, they aren't even much different than 00:46:531 (7) - or any other thing there, idk having them doesn't make much sense imo as idk what holding a note over a clear 1/2 sound gives you it is different from 00:46:531 (7) - which has an hearable beat on 00:46:703 - else both/those would be 3/4-slider
- 00:54:245 (1,2,3) - i think that custom stack is uneven lol fixed (dont get it confused with sv-multiplier tho)
- 00:56:302 (6,1) - 00:59:045 (6,1) - i wouldn't go for linear transitions in these cases, they're quite unexpected and probably continuing the back/forth motion of that pattern, but with a bit more spacing or something would be more straight-forward instead of breaking the complete pattern intentionally, but that might just be my bias towards not breaking patterns completely personally dont see any issues here. at least you couldnt convince me^^
- 01:00:588 (1,2,3,4) - 01:01:102 (4,5,6,7) - the difference between those 2 is way too drastic because they're trying to represent the same kind of drum buildup i suppose but the first 2 pairs are antijumps and the 2nd are regular zig-zag jumps, i'd either go for zig zag all the way or antijumps all the way as mixing both makes less sense imo lol adding NC's might make it more clearly how this is meant to behttp://puu.sh/lccdi/11e400e55a.jpg. then again all the NC spam looks shit, so i rather keep it as one whole combo
- 01:03:331 (1) - if this would... continue the triangle motion you had for 01:01:788 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - it would be like a lot easier to catch because that's where you'd expect it to actually be ?_? huh, i just dont understand what you mean here. to me, this transition looks fine tho
- 01:04:360 (7,8) - these last 2 ones feel like you ran a bit out of space where stuff looks like a clean pattern and just did "something" dunno maybe maybe you get what i mean or not i dont ;w;
it played fine first attempt but any following attempts lead to me panick-sliderbreaking them suggesting that im just a bit tired- 01:26:906 (4,1) - 01:27:421 (6,1) - 01:48:849 (4,1) - 01:49:364 (6,1) - seem to be intentional and stuff nonetheless they don't really look that nice when playing the stream, are you like sure you don't want to do anything about these lol keept first one like it is, made second one more like the first one. i like this stream shape c:
- 01:52:192 (1,2) - combostuff like is stuff i don't 100% understand but since there's a very clear system behind combos im sure this one has a reason too it has indeed^^
[hard]
the consistent 1/1 breaks in kiai don't add anything to the map for me, they more take away some of the fun because i and probably many other people are xpecting kiai to be actually more intense so starting it off with 1/1 slider and followd by 1/1 break is 1/10 anticlimax ):
tbh it doesn't really need these, so if you agree it'd be nice to have some circles or whatever added. improved
[normal]
01:13:278 (3,4) - 01:29:393 (3,4) - 01:34:878 (3,4) - 01:40:364 (3,4) - the way some of these have different lengths and stuff can probably throw people off in the reading department leading to weird derps, i'd go for sliders that leave 1/1 breaks instead of 1/2 to the next objects to make these things easier to understand but eh i guess that's optional and not always optimal, just an idea though since i don't really have any fundamentally better ideas right now
nah they should end on an circle like 00:51:845 (6,1) - 01:56:649 (3,4,1) - 00:28:874 (3,4,1) -
Okoratu wrote:
[bonsai]ok i guess bubble please i guess : \
- lol the break looks 300% lazy hahaha true, but I wouldn't map it even if I weren't, I like that break o:
- 00:41:559 (2) - nc to keep your one object combos in line o yes
- 01:01:788 (1,2) - worst buildup ever lol, the drums are like 200% more dominant anyways so mapping the melody feels kinda out of place here :/ I know but I don't want the transition to be so 'harsh', and it's not that exciting after all imo ^^
- 01:43:707 (3,4) - nerv pls? all other 1/4 jumps you have are smaller :/ o whoops, fixed
little nc change
osu file format v14
[General]
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PreviewTime: 65645
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gl oko
gl phaz
Gratz :3
nice job phaZ :3 you finally did it
gj I was useless at the end xd
needed more feint in my life
Finally! Also grats to Stjpa!
Great work!
I love the sliderwhistle so bad
I love the sliderwhistle so bad