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-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Please keep giving more constructive feedbacks so later stages will only get better and better, honest opinions and constructive opinions are always appreciated!

That's actually not sarcasm if any of you wonder.

By the way, here are few statistics about players who joined All-Star!

We currently have:

List of countries
67 players,
47 players,
30 players,
28 players,
28 players,
26 players,
21 players,
17 players,
17 players,
16 players,
12 players,
12 players,
12 players,
12 players,
12 players,
12 players,
10 players,
9 players,
9 players,
8 players,
6 players,
5 players,
5 players,
4 players,
3 players,
3 players,
3 players,
2 players,
2 players,
2 players,
2 players,
2 players,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,
1 player,

We actually gathered 44 countries for a total of 454 players!
Prophet
95 posts
Joined January 2011
Prophet

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Would you mind, in the next mappool, restrain yourselves from putting a shitload of unranked maps in it?
Not only there's higher chance for it to be updated by the author, it is just wrong to follow this strange trend that appeared.
No, it's not unique and neither it is innovative.
There are more than enough good maps that are ranked.
I'm not saying that unranked maps are bad, but please pick them only if they are really spot-on choices, because it seems you choose unranked maps because they are ... unranked. 1-2 per mappool will do.
You know there are too many tournaments nowadays, and the quantity of existing ranked maps, especially which are suitable enough for tournaments, are not really... very high regarding the numbers of tournaments. If we focus only on ranked maps, we will, inevitably, have MANY repeated choices over the other tournaments, in which players of our tournaments may have just took part several months or even days ago. All in all, we don't want to leave players the impression "wow, I'm joining many tournaments and I find myself playing the same maps again and again". We need special maps that can represent our tournament.
In fact, the ranked maps really outnumbered the unranked maps. We limited the amount of unranked maps in an acceptable scale. That's also what we'd like the players to play: MANY ranked maps as well as SOME unranked maps.
And, all the maps including the ranked and unranked ones have been examined carefully among the map selectors, we decline maps that are not hitsounded, not well-timed or have many random jumps/streams. The quality of the unranked maps is not lower than the ranked ones,and it's unranked just because it has some unrankable patterns, do not have a whole mapset (having no lower diffs) or the mapper is too lazy to get it modded and ranked. Besides, many unranked maps in this pool are really once qualified and then DQed.
Thank you for your feedback, however I don't want to change it. Really sorry for that.
Last edited by Prophet , edited 1 time in total.
aaah400
15 posts
Joined June 2013
aaah400
hi

Can u create a beatmap pack please
Thx
Prophet
95 posts
Joined January 2011
Prophet

aaah400 wrote:

hi

Can u create a beatmap pack please
Thx
Ryosuke is making packs. Please wait for him. (In a few hours I think)
aaah400
15 posts
Joined June 2013
aaah400

Prophet wrote:

aaah400 wrote:

hi

Can u create a beatmap pack please
Thx
Ryosuke is making packs. Please wait for him. (In a few hours I think)
Oh alright thx :>
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Here is the Mappack!

Also available on the first post, props to <strong>MatsumotoRise</strong> and <strong>Ascendance</strong> !

Schedules should be available tomorrow and released on the first post you can still check the google doc meanwhile!
FlyingKiwi
139 posts
Joined June 2011
FlyingKiwi
Can't you change players now?
gregest
808 posts
Joined February 2014
gregest
before I download 235 mb for nothing, I will ask it, the mappack has the same maps as the mappool?
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

- Korean Kiwi - wrote:

Can't you change players now?
no.

CptBlackBird wrote:

before I download 235 mb for nothing, I will ask it, the mappack has the same maps as the mappool?
yes.
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu
#Prophet
It's not that players can change anything in terms of how the tournament works, but I'll just let you know that your argument is extremely unconvincing and disappointing.
You just implied that your aim is to arrange a mappool that is unique compared to.... prety much all the tournaments that've been organized in the recent months (years?).
I could complain about recent OWC having maps from previous editions, but from any other tournament? Do you really want osu! all star's maps not to ever overlap with some nyanyan tournament-like events made by randoms for randoms whose number reaches hundreds a year?
I also would like to point out that there should be a thorough explanation about what happens if the map gets updated (which is highly possible to happen, especially to the once DQ'd maps that you find so fitting)
But yeah, who cares.
Prophet
95 posts
Joined January 2011
Prophet

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

#Prophet
It's not that players can change anything in terms of how the tournament works, but I'll just let you know that your argument is extremely unconvincing and disappointing.
You just implied that your aim is to arrange a mappool that is unique compared to.... prety much all the tournaments that've been organized in the recent months (years?).
I could complain about recent OWC having maps from previous editions, but from any other tournament? Do you really want osu! all star's maps not to ever overlap with some nyanyan tournament-like events made by randoms for randoms whose number reaches hundreds a year?
I also would like to point out that there should be a thorough explanation about what happens if the map gets updated (which is highly possible to happen, especially to the once DQ'd maps that you find so fitting)
But yeah, who cares.
In fact, many players would like to join tens of tournaments in a single year and take them very seriously. That you underestimate the "unofficial" tournaments doesn't imply all "pro" players would underestimate them.
And about the updating stuff, I must agree that they DO update and I can't stop them from updating. However, most of the updates are very minor and would not affect the playability at all. If some major changed taken place, we will decide whether we use the updated version or use the version in the mappack in the early hours. In OCWT, where I used many unranked maps, we succeeded in managing the updated maps, so I think it would not be a big deal.
Besides, many players want to see some unranked maps in mappool, outnumbering the players who want only ranked maps. And in fact, "offical" tournaments like twc, cwc, and o!mwc, also use lots of unranked maps, which, I think, it's a trend.
With admitting the inconvenience of the usage of unranked maps, I have to say you are right in your aspect, while I'm right in my aspect. Thank you for your feedback but please allow us to demonstrate that this would work well.
Skystar
1,628 posts
Joined May 2011
Skystar
The point is not "to make it unique". The point is "to aviod a situation that players would go oh damn look at these maps im gonna play the same things as xxx tourney again!".

We sure will consider giving a higher priority to either maps that have been in graveyard for months and longer or maps that are under our control (e.g. own maps or friend's maps), than ones that still have a high chance to get updated. But the fact that the qualified map (to the ternimus) got disqualified, and then updated and changed wasn't something we could've expected. We are not prophets.
FlyingKiwi
139 posts
Joined June 2011
FlyingKiwi

CptBlackBird wrote:

before I download 235 mb for nothing, I will ask it, the mappack has the same maps as the mappool?
Obviously.
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

Skystar wrote:

The point is not "to make it unique". The point is "to aviod a situation that players would go oh damn look at these maps im gonna play the same things as xxx tourney again!".

We sure will consider giving a higher priority to either maps that have been in graveyard for months and longer or maps that are under our control (e.g. own maps or friend's maps), than ones that still have a high chance to get updated. But the fact that the qualified map (to the ternimus) got disqualified, and then updated and changed wasn't something we could've expected. We are not prophets.
>"We are not prophets"
I saw what you did here :D
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
Hi i am le controversial opinon
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer
I much prefer having new maps over having to play maps I've played in 6 other tournaments before
Illkryn
269 posts
Joined November 2012
Illkryn
what the heck why isnt koigokoro [delis' insane] in dt map pool i think that map very fitting to this pool difficult and good map song too!
nya10
979 posts
Joined February 2012
nya10

Skystar wrote:

We sure will consider giving a higher priority to either maps that have been in graveyard for months and longer or maps that are under our control (e.g. own maps or friend's maps), than ones that still have a high chance to get updated. But the fact that the qualified map (to the ternimus) got disqualified, and then updated and changed wasn't something we could've expected. We are not prophets.
For this one, I highly suggest to use ranked / graveyard maps, not the qualified one. Hope this post helps (: ~
Nezzar
117 posts
Joined June 2009
Nezzar

B-] wrote:

what the heck why isnt koigokoro [delis' insane] in dt map pool i think that map very fitting to this pool difficult and good map song too!
I think that this map is just too common
alice soft
215 posts
Joined May 2013
alice soft
Pretty nice group pool; looking forward to how the rest will look like gl.

aaaa

Skystar wrote:

But the fact that the qualified map (to the ternimus) got disqualified, and then updated and changed wasn't something we could've expected.
Plenty of ways to go about that for participants and concerned staff (stream/cast/ref) and people'll appreciate it. Unranked works very well if the bare minimum is done to prevent damage.

Someone out there will update in middle of a match/weekend someday to troll and ruin a good pick so poor reaction time will be unneeded drama. Dropping a pm to a set owner early enough to ask could even lead to some nice additions to the pick instead for no effort outside of sacrificing some minutes from eroges. Other stuff like keeping the correct .osu you've already been doing.


Some unranked maps will still end up spammed in every tournament once lazy people also include them commonly. Pretty safe for now except certain ones (no title).
Then comes the day where Graces of Heaven will be acknowledged as the best tiebreaker because people got tired of the Reol, snow drive, warpledge, toumei elegy, nyan drive, electric love, Delrio etc spam.
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien
New Parade of the Circle-clickers chapter is out!

Chapter 3
gregest
808 posts
Joined February 2014
gregest
hmm 3 days left..... I have plenty of time to practice
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
is it possible if we can play at l e a s t 2 of our games on sunday cuz that'd be better for ok dad : ' (
MatsumotoRise
33 posts
Joined February 2011
MatsumotoRise

VINXIS wrote:

is it possible if we can play at l e a s t 2 of our games on sunday cuz that'd be better for ok dad : ' (
Just ask your rivals. If you can agree on a new schedule, please send a pm to the staff (Ryosuke or me). Do it as soon as possible.
crazdile
1 post
Joined August 2014
crazdile
草泥马。。
FlyingKiwi
139 posts
Joined June 2011
FlyingKiwi
Can we pls change our match against TILT Boys to Tuesday 10AM UTC+0? W3SON told me to change it to that time and he's angry cause I didn't tell you about changing the time quickly.
ncuh
185 posts
Joined July 2013
ncuh
Where can I see Japanese and Chinese Stream?
Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team
5,060 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoayu
sssShawnnnn - Pizza Rolls [oko's Extra] by Nozhomi

who thought that picking this is a good idea

as the guy who made this diff I'm rather sad to see this out of all my things here

because
it's garbage.
literally.
I see people playing my garbage ideas from 1 and a half years ago.
It makes me sad.
very.
If it was ranked or something then you could argue it fulfills an acceptable level of quality because it's included in osu!'s official beatmaps and has a competetive scoreboard.

but this isn't and it's not even close to being considered for that.

</rant>
I'm just sad rn
Gatuto
41 posts
Joined November 2013
Gatuto
Is there a way to watch old broadcasts on the Japanese stream?
Kradfiz
63 posts
Joined February 2014
Kradfiz
You can view the previous broadcasts on the Japanese stream here: http://gae.cavelis.net/user/AntiBeat
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien
http://live.bilibili.com/5333

Chinese stream - streaming Naughty Grills vs Antibeat right now
MatsumotoRise
33 posts
Joined February 2011
MatsumotoRise
http://live.bilibili.com/5333
http://live.bilibili.com/24615
http://live.bilibili.com/29889

Chinese Streams
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
couldnt find it in op so asking it here do the bottom 2 teams in each pool go 2 the losers bracket from group stages?/ ??
Bzer
46 posts
Joined July 2011
Bzer
no they become rip, knockd out
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
the ohw doez the double elminataion work xd
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien
Saturday matches have concluded! Results are below
(Wins by defaults due to forfeit or absence are marked 1-0 instead)

Saturday Matches, Group Stage
almostquaranteelAR9porfavor 4-0 The Golden Boys and Friends: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18068029
Our Aim Sucks 4-0 TW Expandables: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18069240
Chicken 1-0 RIP SkrillexFan420: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070394
burstlimit 4-0 Cute Plushies: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070216
Foodies' Team 1-0 No Team Name: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070265
LeiNoMoChowHi 4-0 Team Kappa: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070952
burstlimit 1-0 Team Sexci: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18072252
Team Astral Panda 0-4 Cao Ni Ma: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18072153
FG Troops 4-1 Team Kappa: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18073852
waterful mango 4-0 New Zealand Korean osu! Club: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18073658
Naughty Grills 0-4 AntiBeat: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18074651
Foodie's Team 4-0 Ignis: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18074812
Ghosts 4-0 Team Kappa: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18074916
Dig Bick 2-4 New Zealand Korean osu! Club: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18075744
Cao Ni Ma 0-4 Hidden Double Rock: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18076622
Team Dio 4-0 Reptile Falcons: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18076709
We So Fat 4-0 OCT Dream Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077284
Sample Text 4-1 Cuties: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077547
TATOE 4-1 Magic Girlz: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077702
LeiNoMoChouHi 4-1 FG Troops: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077436
SPD 4-0 Team Middle Finger: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077852
Eden 4-2 Chicken: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18077685
AntiBeat 4-0 Nowy Extra Monitor: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18078886
So Fat Tonight 4-0 Mara's Minions: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18079443
Shiro Pantsu 0-4 SPD2: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080261
Magic Girlz 0-4 A-95: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080492
SPD 4-0 Mank Demes: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080305
Team Middle Finger 4-1 Keyboard Killers: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18079747
Reptile Falcons 4-3 Hentai Gang 2k15: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080267
TATOE 0-4 #arsecrackers: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18080859
Ignis 0-4 Random: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18082802
Shiro Pantsu 4-0 Sample text: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084170
Faplords 420 4-0 Frost-P4F: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084132
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 4-0 OCT Dream Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084152
Tatoe Gaming 4-1 Functioning Members of Society: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18084299
Hidden Double Rock 4-0 Team Astral Panda: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085381
Team Sexci 0-4 Cute Plushies: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085268
The Gods of Osu! 0-4 Nowy Extra M-mo-mo-monitor: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085216
Surume's Avatar is Cute 4-0 Mentally Limited: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18086531
almostquaranteelAR9porfavor 3-4 osutakus: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085340
Antibeat II 4-1 ok dad: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18085585
Pantsu Warriors 1-0 Golden boys and friends: No Contest
Blossoming Sonota 4-0 RIP SkrillexFan420: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18087595
Cloud OD9 4-0 Tatoe Gaming: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18087475
Ok dad 1-0 Frost-p4f: No Contest
Functioning Members of Society 4-0 Here for free songs: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18088761
Where are? 4-2 Team Dio: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18088748
Necroluttah
223 posts
Joined July 2013
Necroluttah
gg china too good ;w;
gregest
808 posts
Joined February 2014
gregest

Necroluttah wrote:

gg china too good ;w;

china rekt us

I wish my other teammates could fc something
VINXIS
Featured Artist
3,161 posts
Joined April 2014
VINXIS
FuryArt
18 posts
Joined June 2014
FuryArt


Take one guess on who left..

:^)
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Group Stage has passed! (Actually 2 matches are being played tomorrow.)

Gratz to everyone who made it through the pools and good luck next time for those who unfortunately didn't make it!

Mappool of Ro32 will be posted tonight and /mp/ for the matches as well, schedules will be available tomorrow and the rescheduling deadline will be thursday at 11:59PM UTC+0.

You can still check scores: HERE if you want to!

Big props to the All-Star staff for the hard work they gave during this week-end, it was really tough but we ran 94 matches and thanks to everyone who watched our stream!
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien
2nd day, Sunday match results: Group Stage

Group Stage Sunday Results
Cloud OD9 4-0 Here for free songs: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18093958
TW Expandables 4-1 Surume's Avatar is Cute: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18070991 https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18093983
Cute Plushies 1-4 umbrellas Kreygasm 4Head: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18094564
Eden 1-0 RIP SkrillexFan420: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18095151
Ghosts 4-1 FG Troops: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18095094
Our Aim Sucks 4-3 Surume's Avatar is Cute: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18097075
AntiBeat 4-0 The Gods of Osu!: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18096963
Kappa Kreygasm 4Head 1-4 burstlimit: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18098194
SPD2 4-0 Cuties: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18097932
TW Expandables 1-0 Mentally Limited: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18100847
Naughty Grills 4-0 Gods of Osu!: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18101438
Shiro Pantsu 4-0 Cuties: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18101692
Cao Ni Ma 1-0 Teamerino: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102729
Keyboard Killers 0-1 SPD: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102693
Random 4-0 Foodies' Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102737
Team Dio 4-2 Hentai Gang 2k15: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102603
TATOE 0-4 A-95: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102768
Mara's Minions 1-0 OCT Dream Team: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103756
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 4-1 So Fat Tonight: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102674
TILT BOYS 4-2 NZ Korean Osu: MP Link Unavailable
Chicken 4-3 Blossoming Sonata: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18102876
Dig Bick 0-4 waterful mango: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103800
Teamerino 0-4 Hidden Double Rock: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18104681
Team Middle Finger 4-1 Mank Demes: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103706
Sample Text 1-4 SPD2: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103848
Pantsu Warriors 4-3 osutakus: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18103766
Eden 4-0 Blossoming Sonata: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18104931
#arsecrackers 4-1 Magic Girlz: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18106191
Team Sexci 1-4 Kappa Kreygasm 4Head: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18107293
Osutakus 4-0 Golden boys and friends: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108488
Team Astral Panda 4-0 Teamerino: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109136
AntiBeat II 4-0 Frost-P4F: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108518
Faplords 420 4-2 ok dad: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108204
#arsecrackers 4-2 A-95: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18108503
Mank Demes 4-0 Keyboard Killers: http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109776
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 1-0 Mara's Minions: MP Link Unavailable
Ignis 1-4 No Team Name: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109687
almostaguanteelar9porfavor 4-2 Pantsu Warriors: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18109699
Mentally Limited 1-0 Our Aim Sucks: MP Link Unavailable
Ghosts 4-3 LeiNoMoChowHi: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18101974
Where are we? 2-4 Reptile Falcons: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18110613
Faplords 420 4-2 AntiBeat II: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18110640
No Team Name 0-1 Random: MP Link Unavailable
Nowy Extra 4-0 Naughty Grills: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18111896
TATOE Gaming 4-0 Here for free songs: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18111868
Cloud OD9 4-0 Functioning members: https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18112275
Where are we? 4-0 Hentai Gang 2k15: MP Link Unavailable
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

xi - Zephyros [Anemoi] by Maddy
Eagle - S!ck (VIP) [Extra] by RLC
U1 overground - Dopamine [Kotori's EXTREME] by fanzhen0019
Hitoshizuku x Yama* - Party*Party [Ultimate Party] by Pho
Demetori - Solar Sect of Mystic Wisdom ~ Nuclear Fusion [Extra Stage] by [Hijiri Byakuren]
nano - No pain, No game [AngelHoney] by tutuhaha

HardRock:

sakuzyo - Imprinting [Scanter's Another] by Squigly
Hatsune Miku & Megpoid Gumi - MATRYOSHKA [Insane] by gowww
DystopiaGround - Transparent Stardust [nao] by Skystar

Hidden:

TOTTO - Wadatsumi [Expert] by Kloyd
Subkulture feat. Klayton of Celldweller - Erasus [EraseUs] by ErunamoJAZZ
Furries in a Blender - Ridorii [Insane] by -Lennox-

DoubleTime:

SHK - RoseHoliC [SHD] by tsukamaete
nano - GALLOWS BELL [Insane] by theramdans
Nico Nico Chorus - SPiCa [Insane Collab] by xXCrystalMoonAnimeXx

FreeMod:

Megpoid GUMI - Shinkaron -code:variant- [Rin] by NatsumeRin
Pendulum - Watercolour [Extra] by Kecco
MYTK - Yggdrasil [dksslqj's EXHAUST] by P o M u T a

TieBreaker:

t+pazolite - cheatreal [RLC's Extra] by caren_sk

Mappack is coming soon!
MatsumotoRise
33 posts
Joined February 2011
MatsumotoRise
Map pack here
Summer Solstice
43 posts
Joined September 2013
Summer Solstice
That's better ;)
MiruHong
92 posts
Joined June 2013
MiruHong
No discussion this week due to me not being here for the whole weeend
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

_Miiro wrote:

No discussion this week due to me not being here for the whole weeend
Same, but will try to make it for some weekend commentating
VirtualMuffin
82 posts
Joined January 2014
VirtualMuffin
Hello there, I am just a spectator to this tournament and you guys are doing a great job but I feel the need to point out something that is missing in the first post. Heck, it's missing from most first posts in tournaments with group stages. How exactly are ties worked out in these tournaments, because although I can kind of work it out if I look on Challonge, it's not completely obvious.

Let's take Pool D as an example

Three teams were all on 2-1. In some competitions on this planet, goal difference may separate ties. Results against tied opponents may also be considered. Sometimes the second is ignored all together and there's some kind of a playoff a-la League of Legends. Unfortunately this is not in the rules at all so the team that didn't make it had to wait until all matches were played AND
 for someone to tell them that they weren't through.

If I look at the Challonge Bracket, there's a column with wins against tied opponents. If someone managed to get onto that site they would at least know about this rule because it's shown on Challonge. However in this group 3 teams had 1 win against each other, meaning that this was also tied.

Looking at the matches Where are we? and Team Dio both won 2 maps in their lost matches whilst Reptile Falcons won 0. So could it be this that decided the fate of this group? Or was it the fact Where are we? and Team Dio lost only 2 maps in their won games. Whilst Reptile Falcons lost 5. Obviously the falcons were doomed either way, but if they won both their games 4-0 then it would have definitely been up for debate.

Of course, it's alright analysing the pool after all the matches were played but for some of these teams they were playing matches not knowing whether a win would be worthless to them progressing or not.

As I said at the beginning of this post, you guys have done a great job organising this tournament and a lot of the time criticism can be undeserved. However, this addition to intro posts in tournaments would be much welcome!
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Hello! Thanks for the feedback, let me answer to you!

VirtualMuffin wrote:

Let's take Pool D as an example

Three teams were all on 2-1. In some competitions on this planet, goal difference may separate ties. Results against tied opponents may also be considered. Sometimes the second is ignored all together and there's some kind of a playoff a-la League of Legends. Unfortunately this is not in the rules at all so the team that didn't make it had to wait until all matches were played AND
 for someone to tell them that they weren't through.
To pass the pools, the condition (on challonge) is "wins and points", let's take a look at Pool E as example, both teams had 8 points (each of them won at least 8 maps) but only one made it to the bracket, it's because one team won 2 matches and the other one match, and looking back to Pool D, each of them had 2 wins but Team Dio won more maps.

VirtualMuffin wrote:

Looking at the matches Where are we? and Team Dio both won 2 maps in their lost matches whilst Reptile Falcons won 0. So could it be this that decided the fate of this group? Or was it the fact Where are we? and Team Dio lost only 2 maps in their won games. Whilst Reptile Falcons lost 5. Obviously the falcons were doomed either way, but if they won both their games 4-0 then it would have definitely been up for debate.

Of course, it's alright analysing the pool after all the matches were played but for some of these teams they were playing matches not knowing whether a win would be worthless to them progressing or not.
Any match between those 3 would've decided the fate of their pool. If the 3 Teams had 10 points and 2 wins I would've used something I can't on Challonge, the Score Difference Ratio, when you win a map over your opponent, there is a score difference, I would've added all the scores differences of the 10 maps a team won together and the two teams with the highest SDR would've passed the pool. I forgot to specify that on the main thread, I'll think of it for the future tournaments, thanks a lot!
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien
Chapter 4 of the 4koma is out!

Chapter 4
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu
Megpoid GUMI - Shinkaron -code:variant- [Rin] by NatsumeRin
MYTK - Yggdrasil [dksslqj's EXHAUST] by P o M u T a
P*Light - Poppin' Shower [Another] by Reisen Udongein
07th Expansion - dreamenddischarger [Collab] by Natteke
Megpoid GUMI - Poker Face [Spade] by NatsumeRin
LeaF - Calamity Fortune [SCV's Lunatic] by Flower
After all this telling me about unique picks...
I won't complain anymore.
Kotayo
56 posts
Joined July 2012
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Megpoid GUMI - Shinkaron -code:variant- [Rin] by NatsumeRin
MYTK - Yggdrasil [dksslqj's EXHAUST] by P o M u T a
P*Light - Poppin' Shower [Another] by Reisen Udongein
07th Expansion - dreamenddischarger [Collab] by Natteke
Megpoid GUMI - Poker Face [Spade] by NatsumeRin
LeaF - Calamity Fortune [SCV's Lunatic] by Flower
After all this telling me about unique picks...
I won't complain anymore.
I don't even know why you have been complaining in the first place, we're humans not mind readers or clairvoyants. We can't go around looking at every tournament mappool, the ones we're mostly looking at to not pick from are AntiBeat, OWCT and QCUP.

Expecting mappools to only have good maps that you love is like going to a sushi bar expecting to find the best burger you've ever tasted.
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu
I don't even know why you have been complaining in the first place, we're humans not mind readers or clairvoyants. We can't go around looking at every tournament mappool, the ones we're mostly looking at to not pick from are AntiBeat, OWCT and QCUP.
wowowowo, wait a second, I complained about unranked maps and I was told it was to avoid repetitions and it was MY argument that you can't just browse through the shitload of tournaments that are going on every month and now you're telling me you are only considering 3 (three) tournaments (series?). You know what's wrong in this. The logic.

Expecting mappools to only have good maps that you love is like going to a sushi bar expecting to find the best burger you've ever tasted.
I like your empty implications. I don't need the maps I love, I need officially accepted "good" maps, not hipster shit I'm witnessing now.
Kotayo
56 posts
Joined July 2012
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

wowowowo, wait a second, I complained about unranked maps and I was told it was to avoid repetitions and it was MY argument that you can't just browse through the shitload of tournaments that are going on every month and now you're telling me you are only considering 3 (three) tournaments (series?). You know what's wrong in this. The logic.
Sorry about misunderstandings about if we were checking every tournament or not, that was actually our fault for not explaining what we were checking.
Regarding unranked maps i can also see the problem of picking them when they are in the ranking phase and what not, again our fault.

Kotayo wrote:

Expecting mappools to only have good maps that you love is like going to a sushi bar expecting to find the best burger you've ever tasted.

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I like your empty implications. I don't need the maps I love, I need officially accepted "good" maps, not hipster shit I'm witnessing now.
This wasn't only directed towards you, sorry if it came out like an insult.

Also i'm pretty sure we never said anything about unranked maps not being the mappools so if you ask me we're free to put in as many as we want.

I'm sorry if you don't like our way of picking maps.
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu
No need to apologize, I just wanted an explanation, thank you.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the Foreground Eclipse map got qualified when there were still matches going on, was the map updated somehow then? If yes, how did you solve the issue?
Kotayo
56 posts
Joined July 2012
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

No need to apologize, I just wanted an explanation, thank you.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the Foreground Eclipse map got qualified when there were still matches going on, was the map updated somehow then? If yes, how did you solve the issue?
it was qualified during matches but it wasn't updated so we just rolled with it
Aka
1,777 posts
Joined January 2012
Aka

Kotayo wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

No need to apologize, I just wanted an explanation, thank you.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the Foreground Eclipse map got qualified when there were still matches going on, was the map updated somehow then? If yes, how did you solve the issue?
it was qualified during matches but it wasn't updated so we just rolled with it
it was actually updated just once during the preparation week k
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

Aka wrote:

Kotayo wrote:

it was qualified during matches but it wasn't updated so we just rolled with it
it was actually updated just once during the preparation week k
I can attest to it. GX and Prophet's explanation was that the update was not major enough to cause a re-consideration, so we rolled along with it.
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

orangentle - HAELEQUIN [Another] by rrtyui
onoken - Felys (BMS Edit) [Felys SEX] by Ayakura Mei
himmeltengoku - Whisper of Rose [Maximum] by Tsukuyomi
Hanazawa Kana - Mousou Express (Remix) [Mousou] by Guy
SuperSweep - All of you is all of me [wcx's Extra] by xxdeathx
ayaponzu* - Otsukimi Recital [Broccoly's Extra] by captin1
C-SHOW - Rocking to the Beat [Overdrive] by Priti
Nanaki - Lovers White Flag [CRN] by caren_sk

HardRock:

mafumafu - Yuugure Semi Nikki [Yuugure] by L_P
Cutline - Die For You (Shock One Remix) [Insane] by Regou
Mili - Utopiosphere [Ecstasia] by alacat
Hatsune Miku - Tenshinranman High Collar Hime [Rin] by NatsumeRin

Hidden:

Kurubukko vs yukitani - Minamichita EVOLVED [Another] by Cherry Blossom
Rise Against - Whereabouts Unknown [pishi's Extra] by Milan-
Junk - Yellow Smile(bms edit) [Extra] by rui
yuikonnu - Chikyuu Saigo no Kokuhaku o [Skystar's Kokuhaku] by Fycho

DoubleTime:

Wotamin - Cat Food [Insane] by rEdo
Rita - Haru Hana no Iro -Reboot Ver.- [fanzhen] by Frostmourne
Avicii - The Nights [Insane] by Kazuya
Green Day - Sweet 16 [Insane] by Zero__wind

FreeMod:

Tristam - Till it's Over [Ultra Hard] by [Luanny]
Foreground Eclipse - When Innocence Is Just A Mask [Pishi's Extra] by kakifly
Megpoid GUMI & Kagamine Rin - Invisible [Rin] by NatsumeRin
bbn - Perpetual Traumal [Lan] by Flower

TieBreaker:

Infected Mushroom - Never Mind [Disregard] by SuperMICrophone

Mappack is coming soon!

Matches' Results
  1. Shiro Pantsu 3 - 4 almostquaranteelAR9porfavor https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18279043
  2. waterful mango 0 - 4 osutakus https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18277957
  3. TATOE Gaming 4 - 2 Random https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18275564
  4. AntiBeat 4 - 0 SPD2 https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18273428
  5. Ghosts 4 - 0 Chicken http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18271378
  6. LeiNoMoChowHi 1 - 4 Eden http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18270101
  7. burstlimit 4 - 0 Cao Ni Ma https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18268005
  8. Cloud OD9 4 - 1 So Fat Tonight http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18267850
  9. Our Aim Sucks 4 - 0 A-95 https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18257811
  10. Faplords 420 4 - 0 Team Middle Finger https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18252423
  11. Kappa Kreygasm 4Head 0 - 1 Hidden Double Rock https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18252585
  12. TILT BOYS 4 - 2 Nowy Extra M-mo-mo-monitor https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18251102
  13. AntiBeat II 0 - 4 SPD https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18249711
  14. Foodies' Team 0 - 4 #arsecrackers https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18249807
  15. Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 4 - 3 Team Dio https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18248510
  16. Where Are We? 4 - 1 TW Expendables http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18242778

New schedules available HERE!
MatsumotoRise
33 posts
Joined February 2011
MatsumotoRise
Map Pack
TrickMirror
44 posts
Joined November 2012
TrickMirror
In the future, please refrain from using maps that completely fall apart when you play without hitsounds. on Felys, I'm playing notes that have no sound behind them, and this puts certain players at a huge disadvantage

Edit: If you need an example of how this looks and sounds without hitsounds, here you go. Pretty ridiculous, really.
https://streamable.com/q7rr
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Lapis
77 posts
Joined October 2011
Lapis

TrickMirror wrote:

In the future, please refrain from using maps that completely fall apart when you play without hitsounds. on Felys, I'm playing notes that have no sound behind them, and this puts certain players (like myself) at a huge disadvantage

Edit: If you need an example of how this looks and sounds without hitsounds, here you go. Pretty ridiculous, really.
https://streamable.com/q7rr
So why not play with hitsounds?
0120
Former osu! Champion: 2015
82 posts
Joined September 2012
0120

Emik wrote:

So why not play with hitsounds?
I'm obviously not TrickMirror but some players don't prefer to use hit sounds as it adds an additional sound that usually does not go with the music. Also if you are used to playing with no hit sounds then suddenly being half forced into playing with it is quite difficult to get used to.
I'm not saying that I agree with completely eliminating these picks but some of the pending/graveyarded maps have not been fully moded thus have few minor issues that may lower ones performance
In case of felys it originally has a sound to where the note is placed but because it is the BMS Edit the sound is a lot harder to hear/you can't hear it at all, which is a bit ridiculous if you've never heard of the original music
Prophet
95 posts
Joined January 2011
Prophet

0120 wrote:

pending/graveyarded maps
THIS is ranked.Ranking Criteria don't prevent ranking key-sound maps.
And in all, MOST players would choose to play maps with hitsound (including most expert players), so I really don't see the necessity. And if you insist on playing without hitsounds, you can still add this as an exception and play other maps unhitsounded.
Melt3dCheeze
186 posts
Joined January 2011
Melt3dCheeze
less unranked map pls
Prophet
95 posts
Joined January 2011
Prophet

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

less unranked map pls
I have to say there will be more unranked maps in the coming rounds since, sadly, almost all ranked maps that are hard and suitable enough for matches are used in antibeat I, even if there are some hard maps ranked in these several months, its amount is still too small for so large mappools.
The problem is "There are not so many ranked maps" rather than "we want unranked maps", so #rankhardermaps2015
Glazbom
274 posts
Joined December 2010
Glazbom
You can't select a map that was used in another tournament? that's a stupid rule.
jesse1412
1,457 posts
Joined January 2010
jesse1412
Playing the same maps in every tournament was getting stale, OWC is especially bad at this.
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

Glazbom wrote:

You can't select a map that was used in another tournament? that's a stupid rule.
It's not a rule. It's just something the mappool selectors challenged themselves with.
They don't want the players to think: "Oh, it's the same maps again", that's all
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

Megurine Luka - Blue Amber [Upari] by -Upari
Nekomata Master - Caring Dance [wet] by HanzeR
Studio EIM - Crescent Moon Island Boss Theme [[ -Scarlet- ]'s Extra] by Rakuen
Nightwish - Last Ride of the Day [Shiro's Extra] by T-Mac
Negoto (DJ SEVEN) - Charon (DJ SEVEN PnB Refix) [ELY (AR9]] by eLy
Yousei Teikoku - Kuusou Mesorogiwi [DEAD END] by Saten
LeaF - Wizdomiot [Lunatic] by Asahina Momoko
Suzumu - Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou [AngelHoney's Extra] by tutuhaha

HardRock:

Guriri - -ERROR [Insane] by HanzeR
W.T. Orchestra - William Tell Overture [Champion] by Louis Cyphre
Silver Forest - 1000 Phantasm [Insane] by happy30
Parov Stelar - Catgroove [Insane] by Blue Dragon

Hidden:

M2U - Masquerade [Extreme] by Melt
Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Extra] by EvilElvis
Yucha-P - Thieves Night Trick [Extra] by tutuhaha
Fall Out Boy - Alone Together (Krewella Remix) [Alone] by Aia

DoubleTime:

Baracuda - La Di Da (Nightcore Mix) [La Di Da] by ztrot
Tsunamaru - paranoia [RLC AR8] by Chewin
Yellow Zebra - Melody! [Lunatic] by wcx19911123
Yousei Teikoku - Kyouki Chinden (TV Size) [Insane] by Saten

FreeMod:

yuikonnu & ayaponzu* - Kunoichi demo Koi ga Shitai [Skystar's Extra] by alacat
Memme - Starving Days [Extra] by Gamu
Ranko - Sei Natsu [Lunatic] by Amamiya Yuko
Nomy - Cocaine (Nightcore Mix) [Insane] by Aleks719

TieBreaker:

Celldweller - I Can't Wait [Impatient] by Zero__wind

Mappack is coming soon!
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Bass
1,846 posts
Joined January 2009
Bass

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:

Megurine Luka - Blue Amber [Upari] by -Upari
Nekomata Master - Caring Dance [wet] by HanzeR
Studio EIM - Crescent Moon Island Boss Theme [[ -Scarlet- ]'s Extra] by Rakuen
Nightwish - Last Ride of the Day [Shiro's Extra] by T-Mac
Negoto (DJ SEVEN) - Charon (DJ SEVEN PnB Refix) [ELY (AR9]] by eLy
Yousei Teikoku - Kuusou Mesorogiwi [DEAD END] by Saten
LeaF - Wizdomiot [Lunatic] by Asahina Momoko
Suzumu - Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou [AngelHoney's Extra] by tutuhaha

HardRock:

Guriri - -ERROR [Insane] by HanzeR
W.T. Orchestra - William Tell Overture [Champion] by Louis Cyphre
Silver Forest - 1000 Phantasm [Insane] by happy30
Parov Stelar - Catgroove [Insane] by Blue Dragon

Hidden:

M2U - Masquerade [Extreme] by Melt
Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Extra] by EvilElvis
Yucha-P - Thieves Night Trick [Extra] by tutuhaha
Fall Out Boy - Alone Together (Krewella Remix) [Alone] by Aia

DoubleTime:

Baracuda - La Di Da (Nightcore Mix) [La Di Da] by ztrot
Tsunamaru - paranoia [RLC AR8] by Chewin
Yellow Zebra - Melody! [Lunatic] by wcx19911123
Yousei Teikoku - Kyouki Chinden (TV Size) [Insane] by Saten

FreeMod:

yuikonnu & ayaponzu* - Kunoichi demo Koi ga Shitai [Skystar's Extra] by alacat
Memme - Starving Days [Extra] by Gamu
Ranko - Sei Natsu [Lunatic] by Amamiya Yuko
Nomy - Cocaine (Nightcore Mix) [Insane] by Aleks719

TieBreaker:

Celldweller - I Can't Wait [Impatient] by Zero__wind

Mappack is coming soon!
This week LB will be using previous one or above?
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

Bass wrote:

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:

Megurine Luka - Blue Amber [Upari] by -Upari
Nekomata Master - Caring Dance [wet] by HanzeR
Studio EIM - Crescent Moon Island Boss Theme [[ -Scarlet- ]'s Extra] by Rakuen
Nightwish - Last Ride of the Day [Shiro's Extra] by T-Mac
Negoto (DJ SEVEN) - Charon (DJ SEVEN PnB Refix) [ELY (AR9]] by eLy
Yousei Teikoku - Kuusou Mesorogiwi [DEAD END] by Saten
LeaF - Wizdomiot [Lunatic] by Asahina Momoko
Suzumu - Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou [AngelHoney's Extra] by tutuhaha

HardRock:

Guriri - -ERROR [Insane] by HanzeR
W.T. Orchestra - William Tell Overture [Champion] by Louis Cyphre
Silver Forest - 1000 Phantasm [Insane] by happy30
Parov Stelar - Catgroove [Insane] by Blue Dragon

Hidden:

M2U - Masquerade [Extreme] by Melt
Comp - Gensou no Satellite [Extra] by EvilElvis
Yucha-P - Thieves Night Trick [Extra] by tutuhaha
Fall Out Boy - Alone Together (Krewella Remix) [Alone] by Aia

DoubleTime:

Baracuda - La Di Da (Nightcore Mix) [La Di Da] by ztrot
Tsunamaru - paranoia [RLC AR8] by Chewin
Yellow Zebra - Melody! [Lunatic] by wcx19911123
Yousei Teikoku - Kyouki Chinden (TV Size) [Insane] by Saten

FreeMod:

yuikonnu & ayaponzu* - Kunoichi demo Koi ga Shitai [Skystar's Extra] by alacat
Memme - Starving Days [Extra] by Gamu
Ranko - Sei Natsu [Lunatic] by Amamiya Yuko
Nomy - Cocaine (Nightcore Mix) [Insane] by Aleks719

TieBreaker:

Celldweller - I Can't Wait [Impatient] by Zero__wind

Mappack is coming soon!
This week LB will be using previous one or above?
LB will be the previous week's I believe
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu
Umm, aren't we at the stage where people can play AR 10?
This looks so deliberate, Paranoia AR8 are you even serious?
I will remain silent on tutuhaha/saten picks.
pooptartsonas
128 posts
Joined January 2012
pooptartsonas
Ro32 (Round of 32) with Losers Bracket Round 1 to 3 will be BO7 (Best-Of-7): first team to achieve 4 points will win the match.
I assumed the bo7 format for Losers Round 3 implied that the round 1 mappool would be used. However, looking at Challonge, it says that Losers Round 3 is a bo9 format, going against what is listed in the rules. So first of all, which is it, and second of all, how does one determine which mappool will be played for each losers bracket match? I figured it would follow a similar format to NAT (see: http://puu.sh/ivVZR/7b06262c9f.png) but the second round was played with the round 1 mappool. Sorry if I'm missing something but I can't seem to find this information.
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

pooptartsonas wrote:

I assumed the bo7 format for Losers Round 3 implied that the round 1 mappool would be used. However, looking at Challonge, it says that Losers Round 3 is a bo9 format, going against what is listed in the rules.
Rules are still rules, I just did a mistake on challonge, I apologize for that.

pooptartsonas wrote:

So first of all, which is it, and second of all, how does one determine which mappool will be played for each losers bracket match? I figured it would follow a similar format to NAT (see: http://puu.sh/ivVZR/7b06262c9f.png) but the second round was played with the round 1 mappool. Sorry if I'm missing something but I can't seem to find this information.
I'll add this up to rules when I get home, I sent the information to captains but I'll make this clearer for everyone.
Wilchq
Former osu! Champion: 2017
38 posts
Joined October 2012
Wilchq
Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Ascendance
Elite Mapper
4,252 posts
Joined July 2013
Ascendance

Wilchq wrote:

Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
:^)
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

Wilchq wrote:

Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Because you can?
Histoire
482 posts
Joined December 2013
Histoire
just my 2 cents here

Evrien wrote:

Glazbom wrote:

You can't select a map that was used in another tournament? that's a stupid rule.
It's not a rule. It's just something the mappool selectors challenged themselves with.
They don't want the players to think: "Oh, it's the same maps again", that's all
I can completely understand this, however you shouldn't forsake the mappool just because players think that way. In the end, putting way more unranked and even in TrickMirrors case, not hitsounded maps. In all honesty, have way more unranked won't do any justice. And if you guys keep challenging yourselves with these rules, im sure by antibeat 4/5 the unranked picks are totally worse. Im not saying no to unranked, im saying please use it appropriately. They are in WIP/Pending for a reason.

Prophet wrote:

0120 wrote:

pending/graveyarded maps
THIS is ranked.Ranking Criteria don't prevent ranking key-sound maps.
And in all, MOST players would choose to play maps with hitsound (including most expert players), so I really don't see the necessity. And if you insist on playing without hitsounds, you can still add this as an exception and play other maps unhitsounded.
Thats not really a good example, considering it was rank in late 2014s.

jesus1412 wrote:

Playing the same maps in every tournament was getting stale, OWC is especially bad at this.
In all honesty, i don't think picking same maps will lead it to become "stale". Most ranked picks aren't going to be a full off copy from another tournament, and everyday there are new maps getting ranked. I also don't understand why people must view as a boring, same old map instead of a map that they have played before and definitely have confidence in doing.

tl;dr

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

less unranked map pls
Wilchq
Former osu! Champion: 2017
38 posts
Joined October 2012
Wilchq

-Ryosuke wrote:

Wilchq wrote:

Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Because you can?
Uh, I heard from our teammates, that YOU don't want to reschedule matches (we were playing with germans, same timezone and shity hour). So maybe we can't?
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

Wilchq wrote:

Uh, I heard from our teammates, that YOU don't want to reschedule matches (we were playing with germans, same timezone and shity hour). So maybe we can't?

-Ryosuke wrote:

For All-Star to run perfectly, you can't reschedule your match another day than the day assigned in the schedule and if you were to reschedule, just make it MAXIMUM 2 hour earlier or later the original match's time. Deadline is thursday 11:59PM UTC+0
I think you misunderstood that.

(The quote is taken from the PM I send to all captains.)
Nezzar
117 posts
Joined June 2009
Nezzar

jesus1412 wrote:

Playing the same maps in every tournament was getting stale, OWC is especially bad at this.
In all honesty, i don't think picking same maps will lead it to become "stale". Most ranked picks aren't going to be a full off copy from another tournament, and everyday there are new maps getting ranked. I also don't understand why people must view as a boring, same old map instead of a map that they have played before and definitely have confidence in doing.
it really is VERY boring, especially when the song type is not something you really like, playing it all over again (in order to regain the feeling of the map) is never a good idea, and some maps are just appearing more than 2 times I think...
pooptartsonas
128 posts
Joined January 2012
pooptartsonas
Maybe I'm missing something you added, but I still don't see anything in the rules about which mappool is played when? I don't mean to be obnoxious about it or anything but I want to make sure I'm practicing the right mappool.
Te Amo
246 posts
Joined January 2013
Te Amo
High quality tourney :^)
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

pooptartsonas wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something you added, but I still don't see anything in the rules about which mappool is played when? I don't mean to be obnoxious about it or anything but I want to make sure I'm practicing the right mappool.
Fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Mappools has been moved to second post, as the 60 000 characters limit surprisingly exists.
Toy
Former osu! Champion: 2019 / Grilled Dodongo
1,513 posts
Joined June 2013
Toy
Doesn't making the loser bracket teams play two different really expansive mappools in the same weekend seem a bit heavy?
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

[Toy] wrote:

Doesn't making the loser bracket teams play two different really expansive mappools in the same weekend seem a bit heavy?
You now only have to play one mappool (current week's)
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

FujuniseikouyuuP - Invasion of stray cats [Stray0108] by val0108
Camellia - Tabata no Uta - THE INNOCENT SHOJIN ROAD TO THE N.x.A.N. - [GUILT] by handsome
Nanjo Yoshino x Kayano Ai (as Shirabe Tsukuyomi x Kirika Akatsuki) - Edge Works of Goddess ZABABA [Death Melody] by blissfulyoshi
RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Another] by AngelHoney
Susumu Hirasawa - SWITCHED-ON LOTUS [KIRBY Mix Deluxe] by starrodkirby86
Rohi - Kakuzetsu Thanatos [Rin] by NatsumeRin
FujuniseikouyuuP - FREEDMAN [iyasine] by val0108
Ikareru Kin no Shishi - G59 [Extreme] by EvilElvis

HardRock:

SHIKI - Pure Ruby [Another] by tsuka
Hatsune Miku - Recommended Spell [Spell] by val0108
guna with team kyukkyu - subconsciousness [Another] by Snow Note
yuikonnu - Genjitsu Game [Extra] by Amamiya Yuko

Hidden:

44teru-k - Yami Shoujo no Yume , Kyomu no Sekai [Yuki's Extra] by [Twinkle]
Hitsuji to Ojisan - XENO [Expert] by toybot
sakuzyo - VALLISTA [iNsAnE] by Chloe
kemu - Ikasama Life Game [Ikasama] by Yales

DoubleTime:

Pendulum - Witchcraft [RAIN] by Quiz-chan
Yousei Teikoku - Kuraki Sekai no Doukoku (Short Ver.) [Lamentation] by lolcubes
TAM - Megumeru [Kotomi] by french dude
Hanatan - Kitsune no Yomeiri [Ryafuka] by Ryafuka

FreeMod:

BRZion - Game Brain [Extra] by Zapy
Warak - REANIMATE [LV. 10.1] by Amamiya Yuko
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination [Combustion] by Jenny
Hatsune Miku - Ohigan FuzzyClap [Prankster 0108] by val0108

TieBreaker:

Yooh - MariannE [Collab] by neonat

Mappack is coming soon!
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:
Nanjo Yoshino x Kayano Ai (as Shirabe Tsukuyomi x Kirika Akatsuki) - Edge Works of Goddess ZABABA [Death Melody] by blissfulyoshi
Susumu Hirasawa - SWITCHED-ON LOTUS [KIRBY Mix Deluxe] by starrodkirby86

FreeMod:
Warak - REANIMATE [LV. 10.1] by Amamiya Yuko
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination [Combustion] by Jenny
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu
I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
Kotayo
56 posts
Joined July 2012
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
AmaiHachimitsu
1,639 posts
Joined May 2011
AmaiHachimitsu

Kotayo wrote:

switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it
ok that solved the problem
Nezzar
117 posts
Joined June 2009
Nezzar

Kotayo wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
bro at least ex-termination... at least in none but not fm... please... QAQ
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
I would like to support Amai in this case. Certain maps this round don't seem fit, and I particularly abhor the Switched-on Lotus map as well. I've seen other players voicing discontent for a few picks, too. In a setting where players are not allowed to ban maps, this particularly strains their playing strategy, and I think it's actually counter-intuitive to test players' real skills.

Heck, why not just put in a EZ pool and call an esoteric set of skills such as that a part of the test too? And even EZ is less esoteric than Kirby mods and Ex-termination, just saying
Evrien
168 posts
Joined April 2011
Evrien

Kotayo wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
Thank you Kotayo <3
Kotayo
56 posts
Joined July 2012
Kotayo
writing this because ryosuke isn't at computer atm


ZABABA replaced by ---> mafumafu - Revenge Syndrome [Death]
EX-Termination replaced by ---> Neru - Ningen Shikkaku [Posthumous]
we're gonna make an AR9 version for switched on lotus
Prophet
95 posts
Joined January 2011
Prophet
I still want to keep the ar8 map. However changing it to ar9 is the decision of the whole map selecting group, so there's nothing much I want to say.
And the combustion is a obviously a mistake, I really apologize for that.
wasisdasS
wasisdasS

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell
where do I sign
Nezzar
117 posts
Joined June 2009
Nezzar

wasisdasS wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell
where do I sign
Kappa as a 6-year old player i'd like to sign also
-Ryosuke
1,423 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Edited mappool is now available in the second post. Mappack will be available asap.

also,

Matches' results
Nowy Extra M-mo-monitor 1 - 4 A-95 https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18579907
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 1 - 5 burstlimit https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18581307
Hidden Double Rock 0 - 5 #arsecrackers https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18581025
SPD 5 - 0 Eden https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18582252
Where are we? 4 - 3 osutakus - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18590891
Faplords 420 1 - 4 Cloud OD9 - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18592454
Our Aim Sucks 4 - 3 Shiro Pantsu https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18593415
Cloud OD9 4 - 5 Eden https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18599458
Ghosts 1 - 5 AntiBeat https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18601376
A-95 5 - 1 Ghosts https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617342
Where are we? 1 - 5 Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617330
Our Aim Sucks 5 - 4 Hidden Double Rock https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617893
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